April 22, 2025 • 15 mins
Sure - the Pope passing away isn’t the sort of gear we usually discuss on The Spill, but it is when it links to one of Em’s FAVE ever movies! On the show today - we dive into the fascinating ritual that's straight out of your favorite Netflix drama - complete with secret ballots, chimney signals, and centuries-old traditions that even non-Catholics can't help but be captivated by!
Plus, Coachella 2025 is finally over after what felt like a month-long fashion parade. We break down what you missed, including the two Aussie podcasters turned up in literal Bunnings fits and won the entire festival.
And why is everyone talking about "Sinners"? Maybe because Michael B. Jordan playing TWIN BROTHERS in a 1930s vampire thriller is the movie magic we didn't know we needed! Despite incredible box office numbers and rave reviews, there's drama brewing behind the scenes about the director's creative control. The film that's changing the Hollywood game deserves your immediate attention!
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the
traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast is recorded.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
On From Mamma Mia.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome to The Spill, your daily pop culture fix.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I'm em Vernon, I'm Kelly mccaren and clearly Laura is away.
She's stuck in Queensland and looks simply thrilled to have
to drive the episode.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I am very, very excited because we haven't done an
episode together, have we not for the Spill.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't think so, no time recently.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Anyway, I look at us back together again.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I'm together on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Today we are talking about everything you need to know
about Coachella Weekend too, it's finally over.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Thank going for a month plus.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
We're talking about Ryan Coogler's new movie Sinners. I did
talk about it for a week in Watch. But there's
a lot of drama on the whole thing to unpack.
But first cal last.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Night we finished the Easter long weekend with use that
Pope Prince has passed away after complications from a long
standing respiratory illness resulting in a stroke and.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Subsequent heart failure.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So the Vatican Press Office confirmed the news, which really
shocked the Catholic community, given just hours earlier, he had
made his public appearance at the Vatican on Easter Sunday
to bestow his blessing after Eastern Mass. Vatican spokesperson Mattio
announced that, in keeping with tradition, the funeral rites will
begin at Saint Peter's Basilica, tentatively scheduled for Tuesday, followed
(01:40):
by a period of morning during which the cardinals will
convene in a conclave to elect his successor. Speaking of Conclave.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
M okay, I feel like anyone who's watched the movie Conclave,
it's going to sound so morbid, but I think they're
all very, very excited because for the first time ever,
all of us as a collective know exactly what's going
to except me.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Except you because you haven't watched it. Well, it was.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Funny seeing the nomination and Ralphanez was incredible, but it
was just funny. In the planning meeting this morning, you go, yeah,
I can't like everyone's talking about Conclave, and I went.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Eh, it is one of the best films I've ever seen.
And I don't even say that lightly.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
So I which is if you just said the subject matter,
which is about like the pope, it doesn't sound that ributing.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
The reason why everyone's sawing my conclave is that it
starts with the pope dying and they go into extreme
detail of how the next pope is chosen.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Because I've known.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
This process for a while because I had been brought
up Catholic. But when I saw it in conclave, it's
one of those things and I feel like it's the
only thing in Western society that we've all just left
alone and let them do it on their own, and
then they've just come back into the world going, here's
the new Pope. So what happens when the pope passes away?
They do have some days of morning, but the next
(02:59):
pope has to be chosen between fifteen and twenty days
after the seat has been vacant. So what happens is
like all the cardinals travel to Rome.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
How many are there?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
There's over two hundred okay, wow, but only the cardinals
under eighty years old are allowed to vote, so that's
one hundred and thirty or something. Also, we have the
youngest cardinal in Australia. He's forty four. Oh, look at us,
look at us. So what happens. They all go to
the Cisting Chapel and this takes days and they're not
allowed to talk to anyone in the outside world to
pick the next pope. It's a very interesting process. It's
(03:32):
very political because you have these cardinals who want to
be pope, but they all have different yews, right, like
Pope Francis was seen as a very progressive pope. Yeah,
you can still get very conservative popes. Cardinals can be
very conservative. We probably don't want, probably don't want, especially
after having someone so progressive. And all they do is
that they get together and then they vote for who
(03:52):
they want the next pope to be. After they voted,
if you're looking at the Cysting Chapel, there's a chimney.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah, is it like survival, Like they'll all just say
who they think or they hold up a card or
do they secretly put a ballot in?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's a secret ballot, Okay, it's a secret bout so cardinal. Yeah,
and also you can vote for yourself, which.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I'm sure a lot of them would do, all of them.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So what happens is we're all looking at the Sistine
Chapel like this, cameras on assisting chapel. If black smoke
comes out of the chimney, that means the vote was inconclusive.
If white smoke comes out of the chimney, that means
they found the next pope.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Oh okay, And it's all very exciting.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Very exciting, and then you all gather in Rome, and
then one of the cardinals comes out on the balcony
and he announces there's a new pope.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And then he arrives.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh and then is he pushed out those mahogany curtains. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
kind of like the queen.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And then he comes out and like he's decked out essentially,
and then he's straight away on the job, like he
has to do media, he has to do like photo ops.
He gets to choose his own name. Oh so they
don't keep his name.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Wasn't pope.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It wasn't Pope Francis.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Actually no, I did read that this morning. It was
something else his birth name. That's wild, though, I actually agree.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I love history, and I find these sorts of things
where they really keep to certain systems or processes whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
There's probably and.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I like how people just left them alone to do.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, it's like when the queen died.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I'm not a royalist by any means, but I watched
the funeral and I was like, I did not have
this on my bingo card for you, but I found
it so interesting to watch, like they've just got so.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Many the same things because I'm like, oh, you're doing
what you're doing now and you would have done the
exact same thing like one hundred years ago. Yeah, and
that's really cool.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Anyway, all right, sorry to the pope, but it's okay.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
He had a lovely long life and he waits, that's
the wrong life.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's nice.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Moving on, finally, we're have've wrapped up Coachella twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Where did this one feel like it went for a month?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Oh because the content was out of control, particularly with
weekend one. Weekend to just finished and not much happened,
if I'm completely honest. But the reason is that weekend
two is actually for people that like music and festivals,
whereas weekend one is definitely more you go to be
seen and to get your pictures.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
This is with weekends, I have seen a lot of
like performances more than the crowd.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, yeah, like if you wanted to go just for
the music, you would definitely go.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Weekend two.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I'm happy to say my favorite moment though, like I said,
nothing really happened. I'm not sure if you saw this though,
but the Aussie podcast as Britt Saunders and Matt Hay
wore Bunnings outfits on day three so funny, like actual uniforms.
We need to share it on socials like it was
actually the best thing I've seen from Coachella, to be honest, honestly,
they are just so funny and it's just so I
(06:41):
kind of and especially I've been having such a chuckle
personally at a lot of the outfits that came out,
particularly last weekend, because it almost was like people doing
a bit of a parody of fashion and for them
to actually just go, you know what, we are just
going to wear actual Bunnings out.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
For me, God, I'm looking at them right now.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
How great?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
This is so funny idea.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Ever, honestly, the amount of free publicity that Bunnings gets
overseas is quite like they.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Really need to even Paul right when he the a
Bunning's umbrella.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
And someone had a hat at one point.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
They doesn't have great many.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, they really do anyway.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Other notable moments from weekend too was Kesha joined ag
Cook on Friday night and the Queen herself, Cynthia Arrivo.
I know she joined the La Philharmonic on Saturday. Oh
my god, like actually incredible. And then they also had
Natasha betting Field on stage and I'm so jealous like that,
(07:41):
not particularly I think she's great, but like, honestly, it's
a bucket list item of my to be in a
big crowd and singing with everyone unwritten.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well, you usually do, Coach, Hella, I haven't for a
long time. I've done it before a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I thought this was your stick like every year.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
No back when I did fashion influencing work. I did,
but I haven't for a long time.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I just like we should bring it back.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Watch on the sidelines ever since you know those viral
tiktoks a couple of years ago, and well just at
big house parties and everyone was singing, like, it's just
a bucket list of goal of mine. I feel like
it's a pretty achievable. It doesn't have to beat Coach,
it could be anywhere. But that is when I was jealous.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Maybe I could have about I play the song and
then you can just stand and sing it because it
needs to be with the crowd.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Okay too, we'll get people around. We'll figure it out.
We'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Anyway. That's pretty much all that happened to Coachell a
weekend two. It was pretty much just performances. Yeah, people
actually enjoying themselves, a lot of dust.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And now it's done.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And now it is done until the festivities next year.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Oh my god, we should get you in every year,
just to give us my Coachell.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I would definitely do a really honest recap. No one
would ever want to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So I need to talk about a movie.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And it missed very How many times have you seen it?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I've seen it twice. It's only been out for three days.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And I have admitted that.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yesterday I thought, should I go through this film or
should I see the really poorly rated horror film myself?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And the one hour that I have I went to
see the horror film, didn't I.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
You know what's really funny is that Sinners was my
weekend watch last week, and Drop was one of LB's
weekend watch last time.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Has she actually seen it?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
So she went to the premiere for Drop and I
went to the premiere for Sinners, and it was like,
kind of the first premiere is we usually go together
the last person.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
When we did Solo, it was fine, but definitely I'm
not going to go see it again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So I assume that Sinners is way that.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
She says something similar. So yeah, Sinners. So I did
briefly talk about it for a Weekend Watch, but it
has changed my life. It is my favorite movie I
want to say this year so far.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
As you guys know, it stars Michael B.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Jordan.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
He is, hut, the most attractive person I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
And he makes me uncomfortable. He's so good looking, like
I don't want to look at him.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And it gets better because he plays twin brothers.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So there's two Michael B. Jordan's in this movie, Like
what more do you want? Three?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Maybe the sequel. So he plays his twin brothers. Their
names are Smoke and Stack. It's set in the nineteen
thirties and they're like these mafia gangsters from Chicago and
they come back to their hometown to start a little
like music pub just for the people, just for their friends.
And then it gets very woo woo and there's some
horror elements in it, some spooky elements. Hayley Sein feel's
(10:30):
in it as well. She's brilliant in it. The whole
thing is so so well done. And word of mouth,
because I went to the premiere, so it's one of
those moments where I just wanted to know what everyone
thought about it, and I couldn't because, like I was
one of the first few people to see it.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
The perils of going to the premier zeas you've got
no one to talk about me.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I'm like, someone watched this, so I can speak about it.
Word of mouth, everyone's been loving this film. It's so
highly rated on Rotten Tomatoes, even though we don't really
like look at the rating system, but just from people
who have seen it, who have talked to everyone's obsessed
with it. However, mainstream media initially weren't too impressed with
(11:08):
the movie. So it's direct I did by Ryan Coogler.
He's a brilliant director. He did the Black Panther movies,
he did Creed, fruit Vale Station. A lot of these
also star Michael B. Jordan till it's like they just working.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
He also has a bit of a crash on him.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I don't blame him. If I was directed out only
on Michael Jordan to be in my film.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You're like, you're not just playing twin brothers. You're playing
every character and.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Every character I ever do.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So in the first weekend, it made over sixty million worldwide,
and that's meant to be really, really good. It's meant
to be amazing. However, a lot of media outlets were reporting,
like Variety, New York Times were reporting that they don't
think that this film will ever be able to make
a profit.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Even though it did, even though all.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
The graphs are showing that it's well and truly will be.
And it's also a movie called Sinners that was released
on Easter weekend and then the pope died the next day.
Oh yeah, So I'm like it had a lot of
odds working against it. It's also a huge about.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
All you could say for it. All publicity's good.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Publicity, but it had like a lot of things working
against it. It's also an original film. Usually it's like franchises,
all franchises that have an existing ip that do really well.
So it was one of those first original movies that
has just done extremely well straight out of the gate,
and it was really confusing why all these media outlets
are just only talking about how it might not make
(12:34):
a profit. And then you dive a bit deeper and
you look into Ryan Coogler's contract that he had with
Warner Brothers to make this film, and a part of
the contract says that after twenty five years, Warner Brothers
has to give the film rights back to Ryan. So
that seems fine, right, Apparently it's a big deal. It's
(12:54):
been reported that a lot of executives think that this
will set a precedent for all future movies being made.
So he's the one that wrote it, he's the one
who created it. Baby, Yes, okay, so he wants like
all creative rights and he wants to own the film
in twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Fair enough, fair enough, it could be used in skills
and sumptions. Just keep making those royalties.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So luckily people have been reading between the lines because
everyone has been calling out these publications saying, hey, people
like Quentin Tarantino have been doing this for so many years,
and yet they get so much praise and approval for
having these big ideas and having these massive contracts that
put the creative. First, it's really interesting how you get
Ryan Coogler who's like telling these black stories and you're
(13:36):
now kind of like basically shitting on his ideas. Oh,
to the point where Ben Stiller even tweeted about it, saying,
why are we even questioning that this is like a
big movie? It made sixty three million dollars? Like why
are people like is.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
That chump changed to these people? Like what's your salary?
Working in your crazy?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So a lot of like stuff has been going on
to the point where now media outlets are starting to
slowly change headlines and they're starting to write other opinions
saying that sin this is actually a good movie, because
it is a.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Fucking good movie.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Can we take it back a bit? What is it about?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Or you just said that in the Weekend Watch. If
you didn't listen, you didn't listen. So it's about like
these two brothers they get twins. Yeah, the twins. They
come back to their hometown and they want to start
this pub.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And this might be a bit of.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
A spoiler, but spoiler alert.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Some vampire stuff going on.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Oh okay, it's actually fair if it's nineteen thirty.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Nineteen thirties and when I say nineteen thirty, it's like
old school vampires, so like like the originals, like the
ones that can't stand garlic, the ones that you need
to like steak to the heart, like the og Vampire.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
None of that glitter shit.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
No.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So it's a lot about like blues music and blues
from the nineteen thirties. And the soundtrack in this is amazing.
It's incredible. Oh, the graphics are beautiful. It's done so
so well. The storytelling is immaculate. I need everyone to
watch it right now.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Do not read the reviews. I don't need anyway. Yeah,
if I have Readbrugs for.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Anything, I just wouldn't watch a thing because everything would
just sound pretty boring.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And if you see a bad review, call them out.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Why do you think that?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
How do you think that? What makes you think you
could do so much better?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Huh huh. Thank you so.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Much for listening to The Spill today. If you love
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Speaker 1 (15:23):
Find us over there because we're going to be sharing
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Speaker 3 (15:28):
I mean following just for that so funny and exciting
News cal you're back here tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I am.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
We have a good episode tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
We do.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
We've already narded it out and it's a good.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
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Bye.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
On From Mamma Mia.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome to The Spill, your daily pop culture fix.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I'm em Vernon, I'm Kelly mccaren and clearly Laura is away.
She's stuck in Queensland and looks simply thrilled to have
to drive the episode.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I am very, very excited because we haven't done an
episode together, have we not for the Spill.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't think so, no time recently.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Anyway, I look at us back together again.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I'm together on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Today we are talking about everything you need to know
about Coachella Weekend too, it's finally over.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Thank going for a month plus.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
We're talking about Ryan Coogler's new movie Sinners. I did
talk about it for a week in Watch. But there's
a lot of drama on the whole thing to unpack.
But first cal last.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Night we finished the Easter long weekend with use that
Pope Prince has passed away after complications from a long
standing respiratory illness resulting in a stroke and.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Subsequent heart failure.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So the Vatican Press Office confirmed the news, which really
shocked the Catholic community, given just hours earlier, he had
made his public appearance at the Vatican on Easter Sunday
to bestow his blessing after Eastern Mass. Vatican spokesperson Mattio
announced that, in keeping with tradition, the funeral rites will
begin at Saint Peter's Basilica, tentatively scheduled for Tuesday, followed
(01:40):
by a period of morning during which the cardinals will
convene in a conclave to elect his successor. Speaking of Conclave.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
M okay, I feel like anyone who's watched the movie Conclave,
it's going to sound so morbid, but I think they're
all very, very excited because for the first time ever,
all of us as a collective know exactly what's going
to except me.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Except you because you haven't watched it. Well, it was.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Funny seeing the nomination and Ralphanez was incredible, but it
was just funny. In the planning meeting this morning, you go, yeah,
I can't like everyone's talking about Conclave, and I went.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Eh, it is one of the best films I've ever seen.
And I don't even say that lightly.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
So I which is if you just said the subject matter,
which is about like the pope, it doesn't sound that ributing.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
The reason why everyone's sawing my conclave is that it
starts with the pope dying and they go into extreme
detail of how the next pope is chosen.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Because I've known.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
This process for a while because I had been brought
up Catholic. But when I saw it in conclave, it's
one of those things and I feel like it's the
only thing in Western society that we've all just left
alone and let them do it on their own, and
then they've just come back into the world going, here's
the new Pope. So what happens when the pope passes away?
They do have some days of morning, but the next
(02:59):
pope has to be chosen between fifteen and twenty days
after the seat has been vacant. So what happens is
like all the cardinals travel to Rome.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
How many are there?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
There's over two hundred okay, wow, but only the cardinals
under eighty years old are allowed to vote, so that's
one hundred and thirty or something. Also, we have the
youngest cardinal in Australia. He's forty four. Oh, look at us,
look at us. So what happens. They all go to
the Cisting Chapel and this takes days and they're not
allowed to talk to anyone in the outside world to
pick the next pope. It's a very interesting process. It's
(03:32):
very political because you have these cardinals who want to
be pope, but they all have different yews, right, like
Pope Francis was seen as a very progressive pope. Yeah,
you can still get very conservative popes. Cardinals can be
very conservative. We probably don't want, probably don't want, especially
after having someone so progressive. And all they do is
that they get together and then they vote for who
(03:52):
they want the next pope to be. After they voted,
if you're looking at the Cysting Chapel, there's a chimney.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah, is it like survival, Like they'll all just say
who they think or they hold up a card or
do they secretly put a ballot in?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's a secret ballot, Okay, it's a secret bout so cardinal. Yeah,
and also you can vote for yourself, which.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I'm sure a lot of them would do, all of them.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So what happens is we're all looking at the Sistine
Chapel like this, cameras on assisting chapel. If black smoke
comes out of the chimney, that means the vote was inconclusive.
If white smoke comes out of the chimney, that means
they found the next pope.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Oh okay, And it's all very exciting.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Very exciting, and then you all gather in Rome, and
then one of the cardinals comes out on the balcony
and he announces there's a new pope.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And then he arrives.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh and then is he pushed out those mahogany curtains. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
kind of like the queen.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And then he comes out and like he's decked out essentially,
and then he's straight away on the job, like he
has to do media, he has to do like photo ops.
He gets to choose his own name. Oh so they
don't keep his name.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Wasn't pope.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It wasn't Pope Francis.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Actually no, I did read that this morning. It was
something else his birth name. That's wild, though, I actually agree.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I love history, and I find these sorts of things
where they really keep to certain systems or processes whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
There's probably and.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I like how people just left them alone to do.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, it's like when the queen died.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I'm not a royalist by any means, but I watched
the funeral and I was like, I did not have
this on my bingo card for you, but I found
it so interesting to watch, like they've just got so.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Many the same things because I'm like, oh, you're doing
what you're doing now and you would have done the
exact same thing like one hundred years ago. Yeah, and
that's really cool.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Anyway, all right, sorry to the pope, but it's okay.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
He had a lovely long life and he waits, that's
the wrong life.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's nice.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Moving on, finally, we're have've wrapped up Coachella twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Where did this one feel like it went for a month?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Oh because the content was out of control, particularly with
weekend one. Weekend to just finished and not much happened,
if I'm completely honest. But the reason is that weekend
two is actually for people that like music and festivals,
whereas weekend one is definitely more you go to be
seen and to get your pictures.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
This is with weekends, I have seen a lot of
like performances more than the crowd.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, yeah, like if you wanted to go just for
the music, you would definitely go.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Weekend two.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I'm happy to say my favorite moment though, like I said,
nothing really happened. I'm not sure if you saw this though,
but the Aussie podcast as Britt Saunders and Matt Hay
wore Bunnings outfits on day three so funny, like actual uniforms.
We need to share it on socials like it was
actually the best thing I've seen from Coachella, to be honest, honestly,
they are just so funny and it's just so I
(06:41):
kind of and especially I've been having such a chuckle
personally at a lot of the outfits that came out,
particularly last weekend, because it almost was like people doing
a bit of a parody of fashion and for them
to actually just go, you know what, we are just
going to wear actual Bunnings out.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
For me, God, I'm looking at them right now.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
How great?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
This is so funny idea.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Ever, honestly, the amount of free publicity that Bunnings gets
overseas is quite like they.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Really need to even Paul right when he the a
Bunning's umbrella.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
And someone had a hat at one point.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
They doesn't have great many.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, they really do anyway.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Other notable moments from weekend too was Kesha joined ag
Cook on Friday night and the Queen herself, Cynthia Arrivo.
I know she joined the La Philharmonic on Saturday. Oh
my god, like actually incredible. And then they also had
Natasha betting Field on stage and I'm so jealous like that,
(07:41):
not particularly I think she's great, but like, honestly, it's
a bucket list item of my to be in a
big crowd and singing with everyone unwritten.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well, you usually do, Coach, Hella, I haven't for a
long time. I've done it before a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I thought this was your stick like every year.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
No back when I did fashion influencing work. I did,
but I haven't for a long time.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I just like we should bring it back.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Watch on the sidelines ever since you know those viral
tiktoks a couple of years ago, and well just at
big house parties and everyone was singing, like, it's just
a bucket list of goal of mine. I feel like
it's a pretty achievable. It doesn't have to beat Coach,
it could be anywhere. But that is when I was jealous.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Maybe I could have about I play the song and
then you can just stand and sing it because it
needs to be with the crowd.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Okay too, we'll get people around. We'll figure it out.
We'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Anyway. That's pretty much all that happened to Coachell a
weekend two. It was pretty much just performances. Yeah, people
actually enjoying themselves, a lot of dust.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And now it's done.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And now it is done until the festivities next year.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Oh my god, we should get you in every year,
just to give us my Coachell.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I would definitely do a really honest recap. No one
would ever want to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So I need to talk about a movie.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And it missed very How many times have you seen it?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I've seen it twice. It's only been out for three days.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And I have admitted that.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yesterday I thought, should I go through this film or
should I see the really poorly rated horror film myself?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And the one hour that I have I went to
see the horror film, didn't I.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
You know what's really funny is that Sinners was my
weekend watch last week, and Drop was one of LB's
weekend watch last time.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Has she actually seen it?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
So she went to the premiere for Drop and I
went to the premiere for Sinners, and it was like,
kind of the first premiere is we usually go together
the last person.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
When we did Solo, it was fine, but definitely I'm
not going to go see it again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So I assume that Sinners is way that.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
She says something similar. So yeah, Sinners. So I did
briefly talk about it for a Weekend Watch, but it
has changed my life. It is my favorite movie I
want to say this year so far.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
As you guys know, it stars Michael B.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Jordan.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
He is, hut, the most attractive person I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
And he makes me uncomfortable. He's so good looking, like
I don't want to look at him.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And it gets better because he plays twin brothers.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So there's two Michael B. Jordan's in this movie, Like
what more do you want? Three?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Maybe the sequel. So he plays his twin brothers. Their
names are Smoke and Stack. It's set in the nineteen
thirties and they're like these mafia gangsters from Chicago and
they come back to their hometown to start a little
like music pub just for the people, just for their friends.
And then it gets very woo woo and there's some
horror elements in it, some spooky elements. Hayley Sein feel's
(10:30):
in it as well. She's brilliant in it. The whole
thing is so so well done. And word of mouth,
because I went to the premiere, so it's one of
those moments where I just wanted to know what everyone
thought about it, and I couldn't because, like I was
one of the first few people to see it.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
The perils of going to the premier zeas you've got
no one to talk about me.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I'm like, someone watched this, so I can speak about it.
Word of mouth, everyone's been loving this film. It's so
highly rated on Rotten Tomatoes, even though we don't really
like look at the rating system, but just from people
who have seen it, who have talked to everyone's obsessed
with it. However, mainstream media initially weren't too impressed with
(11:08):
the movie. So it's direct I did by Ryan Coogler.
He's a brilliant director. He did the Black Panther movies,
he did Creed, fruit Vale Station. A lot of these
also star Michael B. Jordan till it's like they just working.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
He also has a bit of a crash on him.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I don't blame him. If I was directed out only
on Michael Jordan to be in my film.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You're like, you're not just playing twin brothers. You're playing
every character and.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Every character I ever do.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So in the first weekend, it made over sixty million worldwide,
and that's meant to be really, really good. It's meant
to be amazing. However, a lot of media outlets were reporting,
like Variety, New York Times were reporting that they don't
think that this film will ever be able to make
a profit.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Even though it did, even though all.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
The graphs are showing that it's well and truly will be.
And it's also a movie called Sinners that was released
on Easter weekend and then the pope died the next day.
Oh yeah, So I'm like it had a lot of
odds working against it. It's also a huge about.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
All you could say for it. All publicity's good.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Publicity, but it had like a lot of things working
against it. It's also an original film. Usually it's like franchises,
all franchises that have an existing ip that do really well.
So it was one of those first original movies that
has just done extremely well straight out of the gate,
and it was really confusing why all these media outlets
are just only talking about how it might not make
(12:34):
a profit. And then you dive a bit deeper and
you look into Ryan Coogler's contract that he had with
Warner Brothers to make this film, and a part of
the contract says that after twenty five years, Warner Brothers
has to give the film rights back to Ryan. So
that seems fine, right, Apparently it's a big deal. It's
(12:54):
been reported that a lot of executives think that this
will set a precedent for all future movies being made.
So he's the one that wrote it, he's the one
who created it. Baby, Yes, okay, so he wants like
all creative rights and he wants to own the film
in twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Fair enough, fair enough, it could be used in skills
and sumptions. Just keep making those royalties.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So luckily people have been reading between the lines because
everyone has been calling out these publications saying, hey, people
like Quentin Tarantino have been doing this for so many years,
and yet they get so much praise and approval for
having these big ideas and having these massive contracts that
put the creative. First, it's really interesting how you get
Ryan Coogler who's like telling these black stories and you're
(13:36):
now kind of like basically shitting on his ideas. Oh,
to the point where Ben Stiller even tweeted about it, saying,
why are we even questioning that this is like a
big movie? It made sixty three million dollars? Like why
are people like is.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
That chump changed to these people? Like what's your salary?
Working in your crazy?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So a lot of like stuff has been going on
to the point where now media outlets are starting to
slowly change headlines and they're starting to write other opinions
saying that sin this is actually a good movie, because
it is a.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Fucking good movie.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Can we take it back a bit? What is it about?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Or you just said that in the Weekend Watch. If
you didn't listen, you didn't listen. So it's about like
these two brothers they get twins. Yeah, the twins. They
come back to their hometown and they want to start
this pub.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And this might be a bit of.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
A spoiler, but spoiler alert.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Some vampire stuff going on.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Oh okay, it's actually fair if it's nineteen thirty.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Nineteen thirties and when I say nineteen thirty, it's like
old school vampires, so like like the originals, like the
ones that can't stand garlic, the ones that you need
to like steak to the heart, like the og Vampire.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
None of that glitter shit.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
No.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So it's a lot about like blues music and blues
from the nineteen thirties. And the soundtrack in this is amazing.
It's incredible. Oh, the graphics are beautiful. It's done so
so well. The storytelling is immaculate. I need everyone to
watch it right now.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Do not read the reviews. I don't need anyway. Yeah,
if I have Readbrugs for.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Anything, I just wouldn't watch a thing because everything would
just sound pretty boring.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And if you see a bad review, call them out.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Why do you think that?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
How do you think that? What makes you think you
could do so much better?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Huh huh. Thank you so.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Much for listening to The Spill today. If you love
listening to us and want more, you can always follow
us on Instagram at the Spill Podcast, and please come and.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Find us over there because we're going to be sharing
the Bunnies video.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I mean following just for that so funny and exciting
News cal you're back here tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I am.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
We have a good episode tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
We do.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
We've already narded it out and it's a good.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
The Spill is produced by Amy Kimball, with sound production
by Scott's Stronik. And we'll be back here on your
podcast feed at three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Bye.
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