September 23, 2025 • 40 mins
It has just been confirmed that Jimmy Kimmel's late-night show will be reinstated after being taken off air, following an avalanche of outrage from Hollywood’s biggest stars. But before you start celebrating, there is a catch.
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Speaking of Gossip Girl, Blake Lively posted a seemingly innocent collection of images to her Instagram account this week and the fallout has been immense. From divorce rumours, to new celebrity feuds and even Taylor Swift being dragged back into the fray again, we need to unpack exactly how this all blew up.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma
Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that
this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome to
the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Bredney
and today I'm joined by Tina Berg, Mama's pop culture
(00:35):
and social editor. I hope people watch our YouTube channel,
The Spill on YouTube if you're not following, to see
the beautiful flourish with my hands. I just gave you
to introduce you. It's waste it on audio. It was
so jazzy. I'm sorry. I'm a ringmaster in an old
timey circus, like I should have a top hat and
a red vest. Yes, you are giving Britney Spears a
la circus. Oh okay, okay, love that. That's exactly how
(00:56):
I love to dress. As a side note, coming up
on the show today, lots of important chat. We have
news that two of our favorite stars are teaming up
for a movie. There's a lot of context there, there's
a lot of nostalgia. There might be some crying, I
don't know, mainly from me. Plus, Blake Lively has posted
Instagram carousel that was meant to be lovely and nostalgic,
(01:17):
but has completely blown up. And we're going to talk
about the fallout from that because it is intense on
very many levels. But first, we've had some news out
of the US early this morning. Yes, so, I mean,
unless you're living under a rock, you wouldn't have seen.
Perhaps if you did, I don't know, maybe the rock's comfortable.
But Jimmy Kimmel, the host of Jimmy Kimmel Live, was
pulled from the air last week over some comments that
(01:39):
he made about the death of Charlie Kirk. And it
was this huge controversial deal where obviously people are like, wait,
can the president get involved in pulling TV shows from
the air. It was a huge controversy. But he's back.
He's back. He's back in an extent. Yes, And just
to anyone who is, as we said, cozy under that rock,
which given the way the world is now, doesn't sound
that bad. Rock doesn't sound too bad, dark cool. I
(02:01):
wouldn't have to worry about my hair under there, so true,
no one would see me. It sounds delightful if you're
not across Jimmy Kimmel opened his monologue after the shooting
of Charlie Kirk with some content about it. But I
think some people have reported that he said something extremely
negative or he was saying bad things about the family.
He didn't. He basically just said that people were working
(02:22):
hard to capitalize on the murder of Charlie Kirk and
that they were trying to characterize the shooter as something
other than themselves. So he did make a critique there
about the right. He did make a critique about it,
but then he basically just went on to show footage
of Donald Trump talking about the death of Charlie Kirk,
but then very quickly segueing into talking about the construction
of his new ballroom. So that was the extent of
(02:43):
the comments, and obviously everyone's kind of free to take
that as they will. But the fallout from that was
ABC getting a lot of pressure to definitely pull his
show off the air, and that just struck such a
huge cord worldwide because it became an issue of freed speech.
It became issue of politics infiltrating not just late night TV,
but media and arts in a way that we hadn't
(03:05):
seen in such kind of stuck Broadway, and then a
lot of soelebrities jumped in. I mean there were signing
petitions they were talking about, and red carps and events,
and a lot of them were posting to their own socials,
right yeah, And I mean so many things wrong with this,
of course, but like one of the things being like
why am I sitting here defending Jimmy Kimmel, Like, yeah,
strange thing for all of us to have to be
like bring Jimmy Kimmel back, But like so many people
(03:27):
were saying, was actually quite scary. They're like when they
come for the other rich, white straight men and they're
the ones we're having to like jump in and protect.
That's how you know things are quite bad because Wimmy
Kimmel is in no way an underdog. But I don't
think anyone was worried about him. He's like a multi
multi millionaire. He would have found work other places. I
think it was just the act. It's the act and
what it says and what it means, and the hundreds
(03:49):
of people who worked on his show that would have
been out of a job as well. Yes, yeah, And
obviously what it means for freedom of speech in a
country that claims to be all about yes, So obviously
quite a lot of celebrities got involved. Cynthia Nixson said
that she canceled her Disney Plus and Hulu subscription. She said,
because I believe in the First Amendment. Reinstate, Jimmy Kimmel,
my whole family is going to miss Abbot Elementary. We're
going to miss quishing only murders in the building. But
(04:11):
you know what, we would miss the First Amendment a
whole lot more So, a lot of people started talking
about canceling. Yeah, they're Disney Plus subscriptions Hulu as well
in the US because they are owned by Disney, which
also owns ABC. The CEO, Bob Iger was under a
lot of pressure to sort of respond, and a lot
of Disney stars were actually at the forefront of this.
Pedro Pascal currently one of the biggest Disney stars, yes
(04:31):
as a Fantastic Four, but also for his role in
like Star Wars, so he is a really big Disney star.
And he basically put up a post being like, I
support Jimmy. But then he also was in the comments
fighting with people who were fighting with him. Yeah, which
is very rare for Pedro Pascal. He's a funny guy
on the internet. He also really stands up for what
he believes in. But he's not one to like feud
with fans in the comment that's not for him. But
I think that he just felt very passionate about this topic.
(04:53):
And someone said shut up and act, and he replied,
when you shut up and be jolly? Oh you want
to come back pedro, Well done. And he also said
when a supportive fan said, like, can the haters stop
commenting so that he can notice me? Lol? Love you baby?
He liked it, and then he replied with like the
eyes emoji, like the hardest he was having because he
also loves some people flirt with him. He does, but
(05:13):
he was having fun and taking a stand. My personal
favorite was Noah Centenaio holed out what he is known
best from probably to all the boys or the boys
that day. Yeah, but he's now, like you know, Netflix
Starr in the Resident and he's kind of come up
a bit as an actor as well. But he put
up on his Instagram stories that he was canceling his
Disney Plus subscription and encouraging others to do the same.
He said, save money today. The thing that I did
(05:34):
love about Paul Noah he always gets caught in an
internet moment was that he was like, he put a
screenshot of his subscription being canceled that it said you
may continue to watch Disney Plus until September eighteen, twenty
twenty six, which means he only like had just paid
for this year long subscription, which means he probably bought
it so that he could cancel it and post it
on his Instagram stories. I actually don't mind that, so
(05:56):
that I say, I'm okay with performative put like activism,
but also he did the work. He could have just
stayed out of it. Instead, He's like, I'm going to
go on subscribe, put my card details in, pick a
little icon for myself, put my name in, and then
I'm going to cancel it. Then I'm going to cancel.
That's a lot a lot of admin that I actually
quite respect. It's a lot of admin to make a point.
But he wanted to get involved in the discourse and
he did. But so a lot of celebrity people coming
(06:18):
out and backing Jimmy Kimmel, but also a lot of
people you wouldn't expect to, like there were a lot
of conservative figures coming out to say, like, while I
don't agree with what he said, this is a dangerous
step to test. Yes, yes, yeah, yes. No one knows
more how upset just the world was than our own
ABC here in Australia, who received thousands upon thousands of
(06:38):
complaints about Jimmy Kimmel's show being taken off air, to
which they replied, that is a different company. It's not us,
that is not us. We hear you as as like,
you know the Australian broadcaster. We are covering the story.
We are not involved with the ABC Disney American family,
so please direct your comments. And then they had on
all their socials. I saw like the place to actually
send your complaints. It's kind of like when we get
(06:59):
complaints when people have their mum and mea tickets canceled,
which happens quite a bit. We get an email being like,
can you change me to the Thursday night show because
I can't get the Saturday ticket to which I can
never help anyone. We can't help anyone. So we understand
where the Australian ABC is coming here. Yeah, it must
be throwing well in the same boat. So this morning
actually came out we had a statement from ABC where
(07:22):
they said last Wednesday we made the decision to suspend
production of the show to avoid further inflamming a tense
situation and an emotional moment for our country, and then
they went on to say that it is a decision
we made because at the time we felt some of
the comments were ill timed and thus insensitive. We have
spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy, and
after those conversations, we reached the decision to return the
(07:43):
show on Tuesday, which all sounds great, and I'm sure
a lot of people saw those headlines this morning, and
we like the show's back things, I mean fixed, Our
voices were heard and at the end of the day,
like money is the only thing that makes people change
their mind, people canceling their subscription. However, there is a
little caveat to this story that makes it not quite
the big win that everyone thinks it is, and that's
the fact that the Sinclair Broadcast Group, who is the
(08:05):
largest owner of the ABC stations in the US, said
it will still not the show the Jimmy Kimmel Live
Show on thirty eight of its ABC affiliate stations. And
it should be said that in place of the Jimmy
Kimmel Show, after it was taken off air. Last week
they ran a Charlie Kirk tribute show, which is kind
of very in line with a lot of their content.
(08:25):
So basically, Jimmy Kimmel's show is going back into production,
but it remains unclear how available it will actually be
for people to watch. It's going to be available online
after the main ABC broadcast, but the thirty eight affiliate
stations that deal with like putting it out to all
different parts of America won't be airing it. So it's
not quite back in the way it used to be. No,
(08:47):
And it's like people are in the comments going, well,
I'm gonna watch it on YouTube, and it's like, yeah, sure,
but it's not the win that people think it is,
right the freedom of speech element of it all, which
is the big kickstart at all of this. Yeah, I
think in the day it remains a very complex situation,
but I still think like it's good to take the win.
Like a lot of people wanted to show back on
air out of principle, and I totally understand that, and
so I think like it's an evolving news story, like
(09:09):
we'll have to see what happens with the broadcast going forward.
And I'm so interested to see, like how his first
monologue pans out. Yeah, because that's the big thing. Like
after Colbert, we watched what all the late night hosts
had to say after kim Or came off the air
last week. We wanted to see what, like everyone was
saying about it in their monologue. Jimmy Fallon actually went
harder than I thought he would. Yeah, and so it's like, now,
what are you going to like it would it would
(09:30):
almost be to me perfect if he came back and
said something maybe more inflammatory. Yeah, maybe that's a bad
hot take, But like I want to see how he
comes back from because what's he going to do? Come
back and never have hot takes again in an opening
monologue on a late night show. No, I think really
hard for the way he kind of stood his ground
and said, like I will not apologize and will not donate.
I will stick to this no matter. What makes me
(09:50):
think that he's going to go back in kind of
full steam ahead. But yeah, I guess. Also, this is
when late night's interesting, when when they're talking about these
huge things happening in the news. So yeah, this is
like the first time just like, yes, I'm going to
watch that Jimmy monologue for sure. Yes, absolutely, Okay. Moving
on to something I feel equally as important but maybe
much less high stakes, which is a new I feel
(10:12):
so top I knew, but also, this is what we
really care about. A new romcom coming to Netflix that
has not been officially announced. Is that correct? Not officially announced,
but leading film, Twitter and some industry publications like trying
to say no one has said it's not true. I
haven't seen Netflix at the time of recording saying this
(10:32):
is a bald face, filthy lie. I haven't seen the
people involved saying shut your mouths with these untrue. So
I'm going to take that, in the true spirit of
journalism as a confirmation. I'm taking it as truth because
film updates that's green ran Oh They're ninety nine percent
of the time correct, and I'm okay with that. They
just go I think they just a lot of the time.
Sometimes people post, like in like Australian film and TV,
(10:54):
like media or like overseas media post something as like
oh an exclusive, I need this first, and I was like,
we all knew it, it just hadn't been officially confirmed,
so we didn't say it. But I do appreciate the
Mavericks who just go out there, just go out there
and go this is fact yet. WelCom. Okay, So I'm
here to talk about the most exciting romantic comedy of
the week and of the week because we're getting so
(11:16):
many announcements of the moment, which we can talk about
in the second So the latest announcement is a Netflix
rom com based on a best selling novel, and it
is starring two people that Laura Brodnick will be very
thrilled to hear about. So it stars Leighton Mester, Oh
Love and Jared Patelechi. Oh my god, my boy. I
det want him to be so successful he is. I
(11:39):
think he's like a multi billionaires I know. Okay, I've
seen the Austin Mansion. Okay, Okay, oh you you go deep. Okay. So,
for any spillers who don't know, Laura's crazy crush Jared
Padleeki of Gilmore Girl's Fame but then later also Supernatural Fame. Yeah,
And I mean I think like a lot of people
love him, mostly on Gilmore Girls. And I think we
can all say Dean in the Great in the first season, great, lovely,
(12:00):
slightly problematic, as we go along. But that is okay
because that is what teenage boys are like. But he
was on Supernatural for over a decade, and I have
watched every episode I'm going to say at least fifteen times,
so I do also know him as sand Winchester. That's
too scary for me. That's none of my business. Yeah,
you did ask me when we were sort of talking
about this yessay, if you could watch Supernatural because we
(12:22):
talk about Supernatural on this pod, I get to, which
I'm gonna be honest, is why I wanted to do
this Segment's day because I haven't been on to work
in a Supernatural reference for a couple of months at last,
and whenever I do, I get heaps of people on
my Instagram popping into my DM saying like, should I
watch Supernatural? It's not that scary. It's not scary at all,
I would say. I would argue that it looks very scary,
but you can't deal with even the tiniest little bit
(12:45):
of slight gore or slight ghosties or slay anything. I'm
okay with Spook. I don't want to be terrified that
something's going to grab me. Ye yesterday said just so
you know, spillers. This is what she said to me.
She goes, no, it's not that scary. Although in season one, yeah,
there is that thing that pulls the women under the water.
It's a little ghost of a little boay that pulls
people under the water. And joms on great episode little ghost,
little boy pulls underwater. What about any of that is okay?
(13:09):
So anyway, he's back in rom com land. He's not
scarce anymore. It's fine. So he's starring in a rom
com opposite Laton Mester of obviously gossip Girl fame, and
we love a gossip Girl Gilmore girl's collab moment. We've
had several in the past, which we can also talk
about later. But the movie is called The Bodyguard. No
relation to the Kevin Costner classics. That's actually quite sad,
(13:30):
No nothing, although like I mean, same vibes. So basically
The Bodyguard is a bit of a like gender swap
version of the original Bodyguard, but not actually affiliated. So
it is a novel written by a woman called Catherine Center.
And I have actually read it. I did enjoy it.
Oh you've read the book. It's not my like top
top favorite of books you've read every single com in existence,
(13:51):
but it's it's a bit of fun, so it's pretty
much this is a fake thing. Executive protection agent Hannah,
and she takes a job protecting a famous actor named
Jack Stapleton. That's a good fake actor name. That's a
great fa Yeah. Can you imagine Jack Stapleton in Bomb
Coming Soon? Yeah, but also in the Bodyguard Coming Soon too.
And he becomes like the target of a stalker, so
he hires a new bodyguard. She's a woman. Oh my god,
(14:14):
can she throw a punch? We'll see. I actually believe
that Laton mister could be the crap out of someone.
I think she could. I actually think I would maybe
go her for protection over Jared Padlaki, that sweet, so
tall man who he kind of moves around the world like,
you know, like a newborn horse. He does have baby
deer and yeah, or like a baby giraffe kind of
falters on its own legs. He's too tall for his
(14:36):
own good, that's the problem. He's got too many limbs,
too much hair, and too many cheekbones. So he hires
her to be his bodyguard, and then to hide this
fact from his family because you wouldn't want to stress
out your family. They do the classic rom com trope
of a fake relationship so important, it's so important, and
they're living and spending time together at his Texas ranch
(14:56):
and they tell his whole family that she's just his girlfriend,
that she's really she's really his bodyguard. So there's an
element of stalking and like stress and high stakes, but
obviously it's a rom com, so you're like, whatever, nothing
that's going to happen. But then there's also the element
of fake day and like family chaos, but it's not
a rant. So we've got Texan vibes. It's all working,
(15:16):
and now we have a beautiful cast as well, and
I look, if they're not doing it, Netflix is crazy
not to do this, because this was send their algorithm
and their downloads that week just soaring into the heavens.
Because this is everything that people wanted at the moment.
Is they want nostalgic stars from their favorite TV shows
from the early two thousands to team up. I'm not
(15:37):
going to say nobody wants. This wouldn't have been successful
without Adam Brodie and Kristen Bell, but also I don't
think it would have been The team up of them
was what brought so many people in, and I think
this is going to draw on the same audience. Is
that you've got Supernatural Gilmore Girls and then the gossip
Girl fandoms. Two fandoms, the gossip girl fandom and the
supernatural fandom. Supernatural in particular, they still hold so many
(16:00):
conventions that the stars go to and people are so
invested in that world. You bring those two fandoms together,
that is an unstoppable franchise. I've ever even seen Supernatural
and I'm half in the fantom. Yeah, and you know
it all. I know so much about it. I watched
the edits, I watched the stuff about the conventions. I
know the boys and their dynamic. Yeah, it's a really
big fandom. And so I do think that this is
just cinematic gold. Yeah. And I think also like Layton
(16:21):
Mista is kind of not that she ever went away,
but I guess she's sort of. She has said herself
that she took a bit of time away to have
her two children, and she'd been working consistently since she
was about fourteen years old, so I understand when you
get to your thirties, she's like, I did a break.
I've already been working for fifteen years. Give me long
service leave already. But I love how she's come back
with so many projects, not just her, Like she's got
(16:41):
that TV show and Stand where she plays a police officer. Yes,
that was yeah, Yeah, so she's I think she can
play a bodyguard coming from that. She's obviously in the
new season. Nobody wants this. She has other projects going on.
This would be great for her. Jared Paddlecki's had a
good run since Supernatural. He's on the Texas Walker rebrout Yeah,
which I can never really get into, but it was there.
But I also feel like he just needs that next
(17:02):
big because Jennison wanted to do The Boys. Yes, and
then Jensen, Oh, it hurts my heart to talk about
this because this is when my do you remember the
Supernatural Boys had a really big falling out probably what happens. Oh,
it really hurts to talk about it. It's hard on
your family fights, you know, it's very difficult. So Jensen
Ackles and his wife Daniel Harris from One Tree Hill. Yes, yeah,
(17:24):
I mean something that's just I just love it. I
love it. I love Adam and oh yes, no, I
know who she is. Yes, I know that doesn't matter again.
I just love that all the stars of our favorite
early two thousand shows found it. You got, Yeah, all
kind of came together and they're all married and paired
(17:44):
off now, which I love. So. Yes, Jensen Ackles married
to Dinniel Ackles, who was on One Tree Hill. So
they worked on a reboot a prequel series of Supernatural
and it was announced and Jensen says that he didn't
know what was going to be announced at that time.
It kind of leaked and so their hand was fourth.
And so Jared Padalki saw the news for the first
(18:05):
time the show that he and Jensen had like worked
together on and become brothers. Really they are real life brothers. Yeah,
he was rebooting it without him, is what he saw.
So then Jared got on Twitter and was like getting
angry at Jensen publicly and saying he was left out,
he knew nothing about it. He was upset. And then
apparently they didn't talk for a while, but then they
(18:26):
did get on the phone and Jensen talked about it later. Yeah,
they did work it out. They worked it out on
the renex. Yeah, they worked on the phone. But I
kind of wish I had done in persons they could
have had one of their hugs. No, no, no, I don't
need to see it. That's their private, okay, reconciliation. But yeah,
basically they had mended fences behind the scenes about it,
and then the show got canceled. Anyway, that's huge tea
(18:47):
and also so sibling coded to have such a huge
fallout and be like, you know what, misunderstanding. That's fine
because you wouldn't often professionally as really close friends come
back from something that's that big of a deal. That
speaks to the brotherhood of Supernatural exactly exactly for million
a week, They're the whole fandom was just like we
were just this was over a week. This was months long. No,
(19:08):
I mean no, no, I think I think a week
or so to like they both started posting like normally
on and then later they talked about how they had
like fixed it up behind the scenes, that Jensen had
called him and said, hey, man, like this is so early.
It's really early talks. We obviously would have brought you in,
but we're just like thinking about it and these things
take so long. And then Jared was like, yeah, man,
I get it. You Like He's like, I get it.
(19:31):
I'm sorry that I was like so hot headed. I
was just like I saw it. It was in all
of filming. I jumped on Twitter. I should called you,
and then they mended fences sow. I love that. The
thing I mostly love about this new Netflix movie is
if like Jensen Accles played the brother or something, but
I think he would, yeah, get too whereak of that energy?
Like you just know that they do a little like
a background appearance or something, and I think you kind
(19:51):
of touched on something with this whole one tree heilm
to the natural Marriage, which is that as much as
it's about the different nostalgic shows, it is also about
the fact that all of these people kind of married
or dated other people from things. A lot of Adam
Bodie's like riz and backstory and attraction comes from the
fact that he is married to Blair Waldorf. In real life,
he's married to Latin Mista. They're both really talented, they're
(20:13):
both really great, but fans also have that added love
for that weird nostalgia. And so Layton's going to be
and nobody wants this and that's just like a bit
of a side role. She was in the Buccaneers in
a really small role. Obviously we really loved good Cop,
Bad Cop, but this would be like her real return
to like a leading rom com role. And I think
Jared needs it too. But there's just like fifty thousand
(20:34):
elements of nostalgia or boiled into one. And then it's
got the h like secret ingredient of the moment, which
is it has to be a BookTalk adaptation exactly. Booktoker
is really the any thing with the power to like
make these big adaptations, yeah kind of popular or not.
And what studios are looking for. It's interesting, It's like
it's very clear what audiences want at the moment is that, yeah,
we want hints of nostalgia from our favorite stars to
(20:56):
come back in different roles. And we love it coming
from that BookTalk area because that is such an influential space,
that's just guaranteed fan base. But I would love to
see more original scripts, but I don't think we'll get
them at the moment, at least if they come from
a book of like not still originally I do it
or something. But also we just want rom coms. And
I know that you and I talk about this all day,
(21:16):
and I guess we should be working is that all
people want to watch the moment is rom comms, and
nowhere is making good quality rom coms. Now they keep
marketing movies as rom comms, like Materialists and even maybe
like Splitsville and all these other shows Bold Beautiful Journey,
Big Well Beautiful Journey. Exactly, they're like, it's a rom com.
It's like, absolutely not a rom com. But it's almost
like they have to trick audiences into cinemas by telling
(21:38):
them it's one thing, and once they get in there
being like, it's actually a drama about this and this,
which is fine. But if you think people only want
to see rom cooms, make a rom com and also
don't trick people into spending thirty five dollars at this
cinner out and then being disappointed. That's why they hate
your movie. That's why they're reviewing it so badly, because
they thought that they were getting something out. I think
that's why people so many people didn't like Materialists, because
(21:58):
so many people, I guess they just still listen to
the spill in time is the when thinking it was
going to be a rom com and when it wasn't.
It's just like you can't even focus on the movie
you're watching because you're so jarred by what you you
feel like you've walked into the wrong cinema. Yeah, and
you and I loved Materialists. I love material I also
love because it felt like an old school kind of
romantic drama, that vibe of being like really serious or
(22:19):
like not super funny and rom comed but like a
rom com has to feel like that, and we're just
not getting them in cinemas and we're barely getting them
on streaming as well. Well, there's a lot on you
at the moment, like me Stone Jared Padilaki to save
the romcom genre. Yeah, no offense. We also meant no
pressure on that also hilarious. And Netflix comes out after
a record and be like, we're not doing it. We're
not doing But that would be okay because literally every
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day at the moment when I opened my eyes, there
is another book to screen rom com adaptation and they're
all following your little formula that you've laid out. Yes,
it's very exciting. We will definitely be getting it. Happened
one Summer, which is based on a Tessa Bailey book,
and it's like, shit's creak slash smart. I don't know, Okay,
but it's got from the Vampire Diaries and it's got
(23:00):
Tyler Hoachland from Teen Wolf. So they are following Nicks
and Superman Superman. Oh, you got to mention Superman. But
I think we've nailed it here. This is the way forward.
What space. We'll let you know. Any other rumors regarding
rom comms, the rumor that no one cares about the
way you have spread, I'd like to spread. Stay tuned, Nana, Nana, Okay. Well,
speaking of nostalgia and drama and even Gossip Girl, I'm
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gonna draw a straight line from Late Misa to Blake
Lively because Blake Lively has posted a carousel of images
on her Instagram account this week that has garnered a
lot of headlines, and it's a collection of photos from
behind the scenes of Gossip Girl, mainly from the first
year of production. So it's a lord of Blake with
the cast and crew. There's a photo from the very
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famous the hundredth Anniversary where she did the Marilyn Monroe number.
There's photos of her shooting the Paris scenes with the crew.
There's lots of behind the scenes moments of her with
like Chase Crawford and Ed Westwick, her and aed A
doing at one stage like a post together and matching
white shorts. She and Chase are in a jumping castle
with balloons. I don't remember that episode. She's posted the
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prom photo with Penn Badgeley when she's in the iconic
gold dress and that's when they were dating time. And
she's posted a photo from her own twenty first birthday,
yes with all the people right. There's photos of her
hugging late Mesta, And there's also a lot of photos
of Michelle Tratchenberg, which is really moving because she did
pass away this year. But a lot of them just
feel like a collection of crazy images of you know,
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like when I don't know if you did this, but
like my early twenties, like going out with my friends
and stuff, and then the next day you would just
post like fifty photos to Instagram of like every single blurry,
crazy moment of the night, and a lot of it
is just you and your friend's pulling faces. It's got
that energy, yeah, like the energy of like when you're
moving house and you like go through all the photos
to see what you can get rid of and you
send them to all your mates. It's exactly but she
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posted them instick Yeah exactly. It's very very uncurated behind
the scenes of gossip Girl, which we love. And then
the caption explains the huge photo dump of images where
she said the summer gossip Girl turned eighteen, because gossip
Girl is eighteen years old, crazy crazy, and yet I
am only twenty and I'm just a babe. Yeah, And
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then she goes on to write underneath that this show
was my college. It was my education, my social life,
my hard work, my late nights and early mornings, my teacher.
New York City and Silver Cup Studios and sometimes Paris
were my campus for six years. So many memories. What
a decade. There's full stops, I think that's how she
(25:29):
wants us to say it. Then there's a little love
heart and she says, what a university. My initial thought
to this was I actually thought it was quite heartwarming,
because oh love Gossip Girl. I think it's a great show.
I've watched it many, many, many times. And she put
the Young Kid's song at the soundtrack to the post,
yeah exactly, which I also thought was like crazy nostalgic.
(25:50):
And I also just thought it was really lovely. How
all these celebrities because Adam Brodie is the same we
were talking about recently. All these celebrities are at a
point now where they're far enough removed from these shows
that made them so famous as young adults and that
they all tried to sort of get away from, and
they talked about not liking it. Because Blake Lively has
never talked overly positive about Gossip Girl, Like she doesn't
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say heaps of terrible things about it, and I don't
think she had a bad time on set or anything
like that, but she has talked about the fact and
the producers have confirmed this that she didn't want to
be Serena vander Woodson. Her career and movies were taking
off and she wanted to be a movie star, and
the thought of locking herself in for five years on
a TV show that you didn't know how popular it
was going to be, but because of the contract you
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could have just been locked into it for a long time.
She didn't want to do and it took a lot
of convincing, and then when Gossip Girl was finishing, she
tried to pick roles very different to that because she
thought Gossip Girl made her look like a very bad actress.
And whenever people said the character of Serena, and she'd say, well,
it's a caricature, it's not really a character. It's just
me kind of like playing the ideal of this person,
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but she's not a real person, and like very that
side of it. So my first thought of seeing this
carousel was like, this is really lovely and nostalogy can
It made me want to go back and watch Gossip
Girls Season one for the fiftieth time. But then the
fallout from it has been crazy negative. Right, Yeah, so
the discourse has been absolutely nuts since she posted this.
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So it has one point seven million likes, but Blake
obviously has comments turned off currently. Yeah, so there's not
a lot of comments on her post, but so that
means it obviously everyone's taken. There's many, many feelings, bottled
them up and like gone over to TikTok to share
them all. One theory that was kicking around about the
reason that she's posted these not because like God forbid,
it's the eighteenth anniversary and she just wanted to celebrate
this thing that means something to her. But people were like,
(27:36):
this means her and Ryan Reynolds getting divorced. I saw
everyone saying that and it's not very often these circumstances
I can one hundred percent say that something isn't true. Yeah,
but I'm going to go out in the leg and
say I just don't think that's I think that's true.
People were like, she's found these photos, and she's like
spiraling and wanting attention, and so like she's getting divorced,
and so she found the photos in divorcing and moving home.
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First of all, I think Blake Lively has someone who
can pack up her own home for her. Yeah, the
event that that happened, I don't think Blake Lively was
going through old photo boxes and pulling out photos during
her divorce. That's moving those boxes from one mansion to another.
I know. People have really really made a story here.
So one was that they think that Brian Reynolds and
Blake Lively are done. So yeah, yeah, what ones have
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you seen? I've seen all the divorce ones. I've also
seen that it's a bit of a desperate cry for help.
This one. I don't think it's a desperate cry for help.
But I do think there's something in Obviously, she's had
to be so careful about what she posts since the
whole fallout from it ends with us. From the press
tour of that movie, where people just turned against her,
(28:38):
it felt like the world turned against her and hated her.
Then the story came out about her allegations toward Justin Baldoni,
and then watching the back and forth and the court
proceedings and everything it's been released since then, some people
have come to her side, but there's still a lot
of people in the world who think she's absolutely pure evil. Yeah,
and I think not just sort of psychoanalyze Blake Lively,
Yet here we are. I do think there's a sense
(29:00):
of if it was me, that would be a sense of, Hey,
remember when you guys just loved the TV show I
was on. Everyone thought I had great hair and like,
because people did love her for such a long time
they did. And I mean, I don't know if she's
a good person or not. I've even't met the woman,
but I do think it was posting from a time
when things maybe seemed a bit simpler because she was
on a TV show that people loved, and people loved
how she dressed, and they loved her character, and they
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loved when she did press to it, and they loved
her outfits, and she was the queen of them at
ball and people loved her and Ryan Reynolds. They were
like the ideal couple, and I think it was like
a throwback to that time. But I also think I've
seen a lot of people comment that they think it's
her trying to like claw her way back into popularity,
and it's her way of trying to claw her way
back into the lives of her Gossip Girl co stars,
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because there's this idea that they've all kind of turned
against her and want to be away from her, which
again I don't see any kind of truth in, but
it was interesting. She had a birthday a few months
ago and it was the first time she'd posted in
a really long time, and she was just reposting everyone's
birthday wishes, and a lot of it was her sisterhood
of the Traveling Pants Coastars, so she's very close with still,
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most notably Amber Tamblin that it was a few other friends,
but everyone was like, why does no one from Gossip
Girl or publicly acknowledge anyway. Yeah, I think that's interesting
because a big part of I guess the fallout last
year from the it Ends with Us stuff long before
the lawsuits had happened. Was people drudging up this idea
that Blake Clavely and Layton Mester had had a big
feud on Gossip Girl, and people were pulling up old
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clips where like Blake might say a joke and it
didn't land and people didn't laugh, but often Layton would
laugh in the clip. But people really started to spin
this story that they had like actively hated each other
and they'd been bullying involved. But to the point where
like people had to go back and look at interviews
they've given over the years. They've addressed this so many times,
and they've essentially just said we're coworkers and we're nothing more.
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But I kind of think that what she's done here
is sort of what you're saying. She knows the anniversary
is coming up. Every time the anniversary of one of
these nostalgic shows comes up, like every publication in the
world does a carousel and memes and videos going anniversary,
and she knows that's going to happen and people are
going to be talking about it. So maybe she kind
of wanted to be like, I'm celebrating this and look
how nice and friendly we all were, and there's no
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bad blood here because she knows, like you said that
on her birthday, on these big events, when no one
tags her in anything, when no one talks about her,
it becomes this big, awkward talking point. So maybe she
just wanted to be seen to be like engaging and
showing that like this was her university, as she says,
like she had fun here, but she might not be
friends with these people anymore. Yeah, I think that was
the very clear subtext around it. And again, in any
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other day, it would just be like, here are all
these unseen behind the scenes foos a Gossip Girl and
I think, yeah, there's one of her and Layton hugging.
There's her and Chase hugging, and her and Ed and
like it does make it look like it was the
loveliest experience in the world, which is a side that
we don't really see from most of the Gossip Girl
cast looking back on the show. But it's interesting how
Layton became such a big figure in the Justin Baldoni
(31:51):
verse Blake Lively situation because people were using as she
was saying, using clips from them from like eighteen years
ago and saying, look, Blake Lively has always been a
bad person, where a lot of the clips of them
just like having a little back and forth on stage
and laughing, and they've always said we were like friendly coworkers,
didn't hang out together, And they both addressed it at
(32:13):
the time where like Layton compared them to like George
Clooney and Brad Pitt. I was like, Okay, Lake, yeah,
you two Gossip Girl stars are at that level. Yeah,
I stand by George Clooney and Brad Pitt hang out
more than most to it. But she was kind of
talking about like how she'd seen all these headlines about
you know, actors like Natalie Portman and Scarlet Johansson on
the set of The Other Bowling Girl, and she compared
them to that, being like, why do you guys always
say women are feuding white never say the men are feuding,
(32:35):
Like it's crazy. But there was a time where there
were reports that like Layton's wardrobe budget was increased and
then Blake's having success in feature films and it's causing
all this tension on set. And Blake's publicist actually came
out and said Blake and Layton have never been best
friends and never profess to be. Blake goes to work,
does her job and goes home like they were releasing
statements like that at the time. That is a crazy
(32:56):
stay crazy to put out there, because it's not squashing
any fires. If anything, it was heightening the fire. But
I also get it. You don't have to be best
friends with your coworker. Yeah, but people expect, no, you're
my best friend to say it all the time. I
don't think that's true because the other day I asked
you to come to an event with me, and you said,
don't you want to take a friend? And I really
think that in my bones because I feel like I
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follow you everywhere. Okay, we're no Latin and Blake say
we're the Layton and Blake of this offics apparently start
a rumor. The thing is, I also find it very
reasonable and not at all scandalous that in the six
years that show was on air that there were feuds
and issues behind the scenes. And that happens in a
normal workplace, So why wouldn't it happen on a TV
show where they're working like fifteen hours a day and
(33:40):
then you have all the fame throwing in and they're
really young, Like, yes, they would have had fights, of course,
would have and I just didn't get on that. Yeah,
that's fine, and that adds to I think the lore
of the show, and I love that. But then this
whole thing started with, Oh, she hasn't tagged anyone. No
one's tagged her, Chase Crawford, you were saying he liked it.
Soford liked it. Chase is like everyone's gossip girl, Like
(34:02):
He's like, I'll give it a like. But she didn't
tag anyone. I think she just knows if she does anything,
Like she's even posting this is like lighting a match
and chucking it away. Well, I just like anyone also
on the public eye except her sort of core group
of friends, like her family, the sister of the Traveling
Pants girls on right, anyone else is very hesitant to
weigh in in any way. Yeah, and I kind of understand.
(34:23):
I mean, this has only just happened as a recording,
so I don't know the truth of it. But even
today there's a report that a man was arrested trying
to get into Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's home because
he was trying to serve Taylor Swift with legal papers,
trespassed on property at like two am or am and
it's putting him climbing into Travis Kelsey's home where they're
(34:43):
like reportedly living at the moment, and like the engagement
flowers are all set up there and all the arbors
are still there because that those flowers cost millions of
dollars and he's having to climb over them trying to
get to Taylor Swift. And she looks out the window
where she's making her sourdough bread and she sees a
strange man in the backyard. And I'm only making this up.
I don't know how it happened, but I'm just saying.
The report is today that yeah, he was arrested getting
(35:04):
into the house, but to serve her legal papers allegedly
as a story from Justin Baldonia's team, so that she
has to to fight in the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni case.
And that's already gone back and forth so many times
with the judge being like, Nope, she doesn't have to come,
and they keep like it is a circus to every
extent of the word. This is a celebrity circus. And
I think, you know, we all have our thoughts and
opinions on it. When you talk about them till the
(35:25):
end of time. But I think where Blake's come in
here is like, as you said, a lot of celebs
aren't willing to engage with her content at the moment.
I don't think she was going to tag the cast
and risk running headlines even though they're already happening going.
No one liked her posts, no one shared her posts,
no one commented on it, so they all hate her.
But she also wanted to engage and be like I
love this show, yeah, look at it, and yes, obviously
like she wants to share something nice about herself, knowing
(35:49):
that the bad headlines are still coming no matter what
she does. And to be honest, I just don't think
there's anything she could have posted on this day that
would make people like or dislike her. I feel like
everyone's picked aside. And I also don't think this means
that anyone in the Gossip Girl cast has like we know,
she and Penn Badgeley are like on quite good terms.
They're both like married to other people with kids, not
that stops you from being like a person, but they
(36:12):
continued working together long after they've broken up and spoke
a lot about how they were fine and so everyone
thinks that's kind of fine. Her and Layton. I think
people would love to see more of them together. I
don't ever see that kind of happening, even though they're
both in the industry and they must. Once Blake starts
going back to those events, they must kind of crossover.
But I think Layton goes to more kind of like
industry awards stuff, and then Blake goes to a bit
(36:34):
more of the fashiony stuff for New York, So maybe
they haven't crossed over. Yeah, And then every not everyone
in the cast engages with Ed Westwick, Kelly Is, Kelly
Rutherford heavily engages with Ed Westwich, and Chase Crawford was
also at his wedding. Yes, they all was his wedding. Yes,
So for anyone who doesn't know, Ed Westwick was accused
of rape and sexual assault. He did not face any
(36:56):
charges because of insufficient evidence, but there were a number
of different women who came forward about it, and I
think that has really colored a lot of the Gold
commentary too, because now in any of the stars post
throwback photos, and I think that there's many reasons why
Blake has turned the comments off. But I think other
people in the past have turned comments off. Is that
that becomes a big thing in the comments of people
(37:16):
being like, how could you support him? How could you
go to his wedding? How could you do this? Why
aren't and if you say anything about it, that becomes
a big thing. You know who the interesting thing is
who seems to be the most level headed and at
peace with the show is Taylor Moms who played Jenny Humphrey. Yes,
and so Jenny the character obviously went off the rails
towards the end of Gossip Girl, but that happened because
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Taylor in real life, the stories of her onset that
she would She wanted to focus on her band. She
didn't want to be on the show anymore. Apparently, she
would come in hours late, she wouldn't say her lines,
Guest stars would complain about her and not want to
work with her. The cast would not want to work
with her, so they wrote her out of the show
to release her. And now she's an incredibly successful musician
and she has been walking a lot of red carpets
(37:58):
lately talking about how much she appreciates the world of
Gossip Girl. She appreciates the fans she loves and people
come up to her and say they love Gossip Girl
because she's like just very at peace and happy with it.
And I'm like, out of all that, of all of them,
Jenny Humphrey, the most kind of is the okay the
Gossip Girl mentioned. Yeah, and do you know what I
love when that happened, And I mean she was young.
(38:19):
Young people do stupid shit. But when that happened, all
the angles, all the hot takes were like, this girl's
ruined her career. She's ruined it. Cindy lu who from
the grin, She's over, she's done. She's still in the
band she left the show to be, She's still doing
the big black eyeliner, she still has the plot hold
that she's really cheated the look. A decade later, still
the exact same girl that she was, and the only
(38:41):
one who seems genuinely happy to talk about Gossip Girl
while also being at the VMA's nominated and being successful
in her own right. So you know what, good on you, Taylor,
We love that? Who love that? The true star of
Gossip Girl? Yeah, Humphrey, exactly. She was so real and
she was like, I just want to go to fashion school,
but like in real life, she wanted to go play
music and she did well. I had. What everyone's taken
away from this is that we just all need to
(39:01):
go back and watch the OG Gossip Girl, Yes, because
it's beautiful, it's weird. Those people are crazy. We were
trying to explain it to one of the youths in
the office because she's only seen The Summer I Turn Pretty,
and I was like, no, no, my god, this show
the kids to love you just watching the Summer I
Turn Pretty and that's the first like proper teen show.
They have washed them. You guys don't know. They're like,
what team were you want? I was like, it's impossible
(39:22):
to say it was a love hexagon. Who knows? Yeah,
you just like things happen that you guys can't even
conceive of in our shows. I think that's the real takeaway. Also,
I'm sure Blake Lively is going to be carefully posting
until next year because it's hard to think of it now,
But the first official kind of court date for Blake
Lively and Jospelldoni is still going to be early next
year when things kick off. At the moment, they're still
in depositions and evidence gathering everything, so she has a
(39:44):
long road ahead of her. But I'm just going to
go and say that I appreciated her carousel. I thought
it was a lovely post. Well. Thank you so much
for listening to The Spill, Shay and to Tina for
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So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma
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so jazzy. I'm sorry. I'm a ringmaster in an old
timey circus, like I should have a top hat and
a red vest. Yes, you are giving Britney Spears a
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I love to dress. As a side note, coming up
on the show today, lots of important chat. We have
news that two of our favorite stars are teaming up
for a movie. There's a lot of context there, there's
a lot of nostalgia. There might be some crying, I
don't know, mainly from me. Plus, Blake Lively has posted
Instagram carousel that was meant to be lovely and nostalgic,
(01:17):
but has completely blown up. And we're going to talk
about the fallout from that because it is intense on
very many levels. But first, we've had some news out
of the US early this morning. Yes, so, I mean,
unless you're living under a rock, you wouldn't have seen.
Perhaps if you did, I don't know, maybe the rock's comfortable.
But Jimmy Kimmel, the host of Jimmy Kimmel Live, was
pulled from the air last week over some comments that
(01:39):
he made about the death of Charlie Kirk. And it
was this huge controversial deal where obviously people are like, wait,
can the president get involved in pulling TV shows from
the air. It was a huge controversy. But he's back.
He's back. He's back in an extent. Yes, And just
to anyone who is, as we said, cozy under that rock,
which given the way the world is now, doesn't sound
that bad. Rock doesn't sound too bad, dark cool. I
(02:01):
wouldn't have to worry about my hair under there, so true,
no one would see me. It sounds delightful if you're
not across Jimmy Kimmel opened his monologue after the shooting
of Charlie Kirk with some content about it. But I
think some people have reported that he said something extremely
negative or he was saying bad things about the family.
He didn't. He basically just said that people were working
(02:22):
hard to capitalize on the murder of Charlie Kirk and
that they were trying to characterize the shooter as something
other than themselves. So he did make a critique there
about the right. He did make a critique about it,
but then he basically just went on to show footage
of Donald Trump talking about the death of Charlie Kirk,
but then very quickly segueing into talking about the construction
of his new ballroom. So that was the extent of
(02:43):
the comments, and obviously everyone's kind of free to take
that as they will. But the fallout from that was
ABC getting a lot of pressure to definitely pull his
show off the air, and that just struck such a
huge cord worldwide because it became an issue of freed speech.
It became issue of politics infiltrating not just late night TV,
but media and arts in a way that we hadn't
(03:05):
seen in such kind of stuck Broadway, and then a
lot of soelebrities jumped in. I mean there were signing
petitions they were talking about, and red carps and events,
and a lot of them were posting to their own socials,
right yeah, And I mean so many things wrong with this,
of course, but like one of the things being like
why am I sitting here defending Jimmy Kimmel, Like, yeah,
strange thing for all of us to have to be
like bring Jimmy Kimmel back, But like so many people
(03:27):
were saying, was actually quite scary. They're like when they
come for the other rich, white straight men and they're
the ones we're having to like jump in and protect.
That's how you know things are quite bad because Wimmy
Kimmel is in no way an underdog. But I don't
think anyone was worried about him. He's like a multi
multi millionaire. He would have found work other places. I
think it was just the act. It's the act and
what it says and what it means, and the hundreds
(03:49):
of people who worked on his show that would have
been out of a job as well. Yes, yeah, And
obviously what it means for freedom of speech in a
country that claims to be all about yes, So obviously
quite a lot of celebrities got involved. Cynthia Nixson said
that she canceled her Disney Plus and Hulu subscription. She said,
because I believe in the First Amendment. Reinstate, Jimmy Kimmel,
my whole family is going to miss Abbot Elementary. We're
going to miss quishing only murders in the building. But
(04:11):
you know what, we would miss the First Amendment a
whole lot more So, a lot of people started talking
about canceling. Yeah, they're Disney Plus subscriptions Hulu as well
in the US because they are owned by Disney, which
also owns ABC. The CEO, Bob Iger was under a
lot of pressure to sort of respond, and a lot
of Disney stars were actually at the forefront of this.
Pedro Pascal currently one of the biggest Disney stars, yes
(04:31):
as a Fantastic Four, but also for his role in
like Star Wars, so he is a really big Disney star.
And he basically put up a post being like, I
support Jimmy. But then he also was in the comments
fighting with people who were fighting with him. Yeah, which
is very rare for Pedro Pascal. He's a funny guy
on the internet. He also really stands up for what
he believes in. But he's not one to like feud
with fans in the comment that's not for him. But
I think that he just felt very passionate about this topic.
(04:53):
And someone said shut up and act, and he replied,
when you shut up and be jolly? Oh you want
to come back pedro, Well done. And he also said
when a supportive fan said, like, can the haters stop
commenting so that he can notice me? Lol? Love you baby?
He liked it, and then he replied with like the
eyes emoji, like the hardest he was having because he
also loves some people flirt with him. He does, but
(05:13):
he was having fun and taking a stand. My personal
favorite was Noah Centenaio holed out what he is known
best from probably to all the boys or the boys
that day. Yeah, but he's now, like you know, Netflix
Starr in the Resident and he's kind of come up
a bit as an actor as well. But he put
up on his Instagram stories that he was canceling his
Disney Plus subscription and encouraging others to do the same.
He said, save money today. The thing that I did
(05:34):
love about Paul Noah he always gets caught in an
internet moment was that he was like, he put a
screenshot of his subscription being canceled that it said you
may continue to watch Disney Plus until September eighteen, twenty
twenty six, which means he only like had just paid
for this year long subscription, which means he probably bought
it so that he could cancel it and post it
on his Instagram stories. I actually don't mind that, so
(05:56):
that I say, I'm okay with performative put like activism,
but also he did the work. He could have just
stayed out of it. Instead, He's like, I'm going to
go on subscribe, put my card details in, pick a
little icon for myself, put my name in, and then
I'm going to cancel it. Then I'm going to cancel.
That's a lot a lot of admin that I actually
quite respect. It's a lot of admin to make a point.
But he wanted to get involved in the discourse and
he did. But so a lot of celebrity people coming
(06:18):
out and backing Jimmy Kimmel, but also a lot of
people you wouldn't expect to, like there were a lot
of conservative figures coming out to say, like, while I
don't agree with what he said, this is a dangerous
step to test. Yes, yes, yeah, yes. No one knows
more how upset just the world was than our own
ABC here in Australia, who received thousands upon thousands of
(06:38):
complaints about Jimmy Kimmel's show being taken off air, to
which they replied, that is a different company. It's not us,
that is not us. We hear you as as like,
you know the Australian broadcaster. We are covering the story.
We are not involved with the ABC Disney American family,
so please direct your comments. And then they had on
all their socials. I saw like the place to actually
send your complaints. It's kind of like when we get
(06:59):
complaints when people have their mum and mea tickets canceled,
which happens quite a bit. We get an email being like,
can you change me to the Thursday night show because
I can't get the Saturday ticket to which I can
never help anyone. We can't help anyone. So we understand
where the Australian ABC is coming here. Yeah, it must
be throwing well in the same boat. So this morning
actually came out we had a statement from ABC where
(07:22):
they said last Wednesday we made the decision to suspend
production of the show to avoid further inflamming a tense
situation and an emotional moment for our country, and then
they went on to say that it is a decision
we made because at the time we felt some of
the comments were ill timed and thus insensitive. We have
spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy, and
after those conversations, we reached the decision to return the
(07:43):
show on Tuesday, which all sounds great, and I'm sure
a lot of people saw those headlines this morning, and
we like the show's back things, I mean fixed, Our
voices were heard and at the end of the day,
like money is the only thing that makes people change
their mind, people canceling their subscription. However, there is a
little caveat to this story that makes it not quite
the big win that everyone thinks it is, and that's
the fact that the Sinclair Broadcast Group, who is the
(08:05):
largest owner of the ABC stations in the US, said
it will still not the show the Jimmy Kimmel Live
Show on thirty eight of its ABC affiliate stations. And
it should be said that in place of the Jimmy
Kimmel Show, after it was taken off air. Last week
they ran a Charlie Kirk tribute show, which is kind
of very in line with a lot of their content.
(08:25):
So basically, Jimmy Kimmel's show is going back into production,
but it remains unclear how available it will actually be
for people to watch. It's going to be available online
after the main ABC broadcast, but the thirty eight affiliate
stations that deal with like putting it out to all
different parts of America won't be airing it. So it's
not quite back in the way it used to be. No,
(08:47):
And it's like people are in the comments going, well,
I'm gonna watch it on YouTube, and it's like, yeah, sure,
but it's not the win that people think it is,
right the freedom of speech element of it all, which
is the big kickstart at all of this. Yeah, I
think in the day it remains a very complex situation,
but I still think like it's good to take the win.
Like a lot of people wanted to show back on
air out of principle, and I totally understand that, and
so I think like it's an evolving news story, like
(09:09):
we'll have to see what happens with the broadcast going forward.
And I'm so interested to see, like how his first
monologue pans out. Yeah, because that's the big thing. Like
after Colbert, we watched what all the late night hosts
had to say after kim Or came off the air
last week. We wanted to see what, like everyone was
saying about it in their monologue. Jimmy Fallon actually went
harder than I thought he would. Yeah, and so it's like, now,
what are you going to like it would it would
(09:30):
almost be to me perfect if he came back and
said something maybe more inflammatory. Yeah, maybe that's a bad
hot take, But like I want to see how he
comes back from because what's he going to do? Come
back and never have hot takes again in an opening
monologue on a late night show. No, I think really
hard for the way he kind of stood his ground
and said, like I will not apologize and will not donate.
I will stick to this no matter. What makes me
(09:50):
think that he's going to go back in kind of
full steam ahead. But yeah, I guess. Also, this is
when late night's interesting, when when they're talking about these
huge things happening in the news. So yeah, this is
like the first time just like, yes, I'm going to
watch that Jimmy monologue for sure. Yes, absolutely, Okay. Moving
on to something I feel equally as important but maybe
much less high stakes, which is a new I feel
(10:12):
so top I knew, but also, this is what we
really care about. A new romcom coming to Netflix that
has not been officially announced. Is that correct? Not officially announced,
but leading film, Twitter and some industry publications like trying
to say no one has said it's not true. I
haven't seen Netflix at the time of recording saying this
(10:32):
is a bald face, filthy lie. I haven't seen the
people involved saying shut your mouths with these untrue. So
I'm going to take that, in the true spirit of
journalism as a confirmation. I'm taking it as truth because
film updates that's green ran Oh They're ninety nine percent
of the time correct, and I'm okay with that. They
just go I think they just a lot of the time.
Sometimes people post, like in like Australian film and TV,
(10:54):
like media or like overseas media post something as like
oh an exclusive, I need this first, and I was like,
we all knew it, it just hadn't been officially confirmed,
so we didn't say it. But I do appreciate the
Mavericks who just go out there, just go out there
and go this is fact yet. WelCom. Okay, So I'm
here to talk about the most exciting romantic comedy of
the week and of the week because we're getting so
(11:16):
many announcements of the moment, which we can talk about
in the second So the latest announcement is a Netflix
rom com based on a best selling novel, and it
is starring two people that Laura Brodnick will be very
thrilled to hear about. So it stars Leighton Mester, Oh
Love and Jared Patelechi. Oh my god, my boy. I
det want him to be so successful he is. I
(11:39):
think he's like a multi billionaires I know. Okay, I've
seen the Austin Mansion. Okay, Okay, oh you you go deep. Okay. So,
for any spillers who don't know, Laura's crazy crush Jared
Padleeki of Gilmore Girl's Fame but then later also Supernatural Fame. Yeah,
And I mean I think like a lot of people
love him, mostly on Gilmore Girls. And I think we
can all say Dean in the Great in the first season, great, lovely,
(12:00):
slightly problematic, as we go along. But that is okay
because that is what teenage boys are like. But he
was on Supernatural for over a decade, and I have
watched every episode I'm going to say at least fifteen times,
so I do also know him as sand Winchester. That's
too scary for me. That's none of my business. Yeah,
you did ask me when we were sort of talking
about this yessay, if you could watch Supernatural because we
(12:22):
talk about Supernatural on this pod, I get to, which
I'm gonna be honest, is why I wanted to do
this Segment's day because I haven't been on to work
in a Supernatural reference for a couple of months at last,
and whenever I do, I get heaps of people on
my Instagram popping into my DM saying like, should I
watch Supernatural? It's not that scary. It's not scary at all,
I would say. I would argue that it looks very scary,
but you can't deal with even the tiniest little bit
(12:45):
of slight gore or slight ghosties or slay anything. I'm
okay with Spook. I don't want to be terrified that
something's going to grab me. Ye yesterday said just so
you know, spillers. This is what she said to me.
She goes, no, it's not that scary. Although in season one, yeah,
there is that thing that pulls the women under the water.
It's a little ghost of a little boay that pulls
people under the water. And joms on great episode little ghost,
little boy pulls underwater. What about any of that is okay?
(13:09):
So anyway, he's back in rom com land. He's not
scarce anymore. It's fine. So he's starring in a rom
com opposite Laton Mester of obviously gossip Girl fame, and
we love a gossip Girl Gilmore girl's collab moment. We've
had several in the past, which we can also talk
about later. But the movie is called The Bodyguard. No
relation to the Kevin Costner classics. That's actually quite sad,
(13:30):
No nothing, although like I mean, same vibes. So basically
The Bodyguard is a bit of a like gender swap
version of the original Bodyguard, but not actually affiliated. So
it is a novel written by a woman called Catherine Center.
And I have actually read it. I did enjoy it.
Oh you've read the book. It's not my like top
top favorite of books you've read every single com in existence,
(13:51):
but it's it's a bit of fun, so it's pretty
much this is a fake thing. Executive protection agent Hannah,
and she takes a job protecting a famous actor named
Jack Stapleton. That's a good fake actor name. That's a
great fa Yeah. Can you imagine Jack Stapleton in Bomb
Coming Soon? Yeah, but also in the Bodyguard Coming Soon too.
And he becomes like the target of a stalker, so
he hires a new bodyguard. She's a woman. Oh my god,
(14:14):
can she throw a punch? We'll see. I actually believe
that Laton mister could be the crap out of someone.
I think she could. I actually think I would maybe
go her for protection over Jared Padlaki, that sweet, so
tall man who he kind of moves around the world like,
you know, like a newborn horse. He does have baby
deer and yeah, or like a baby giraffe kind of
falters on its own legs. He's too tall for his
(14:36):
own good, that's the problem. He's got too many limbs,
too much hair, and too many cheekbones. So he hires
her to be his bodyguard, and then to hide this
fact from his family because you wouldn't want to stress
out your family. They do the classic rom com trope
of a fake relationship so important, it's so important, and
they're living and spending time together at his Texas ranch
(14:56):
and they tell his whole family that she's just his girlfriend,
that she's really she's really his bodyguard. So there's an
element of stalking and like stress and high stakes, but
obviously it's a rom com, so you're like, whatever, nothing
that's going to happen. But then there's also the element
of fake day and like family chaos, but it's not
a rant. So we've got Texan vibes. It's all working,
(15:16):
and now we have a beautiful cast as well, and
I look, if they're not doing it, Netflix is crazy
not to do this, because this was send their algorithm
and their downloads that week just soaring into the heavens.
Because this is everything that people wanted at the moment.
Is they want nostalgic stars from their favorite TV shows
from the early two thousands to team up. I'm not
(15:37):
going to say nobody wants. This wouldn't have been successful
without Adam Brodie and Kristen Bell, but also I don't
think it would have been The team up of them
was what brought so many people in, and I think
this is going to draw on the same audience. Is
that you've got Supernatural Gilmore Girls and then the gossip
Girl fandoms. Two fandoms, the gossip girl fandom and the
supernatural fandom. Supernatural in particular, they still hold so many
(16:00):
conventions that the stars go to and people are so
invested in that world. You bring those two fandoms together,
that is an unstoppable franchise. I've ever even seen Supernatural
and I'm half in the fantom. Yeah, and you know
it all. I know so much about it. I watched
the edits, I watched the stuff about the conventions. I
know the boys and their dynamic. Yeah, it's a really
big fandom. And so I do think that this is
just cinematic gold. Yeah. And I think also like Layton
(16:21):
Mista is kind of not that she ever went away,
but I guess she's sort of. She has said herself
that she took a bit of time away to have
her two children, and she'd been working consistently since she
was about fourteen years old, so I understand when you
get to your thirties, she's like, I did a break.
I've already been working for fifteen years. Give me long
service leave already. But I love how she's come back
with so many projects, not just her, Like she's got
(16:41):
that TV show and Stand where she plays a police officer. Yes,
that was yeah, Yeah, so she's I think she can
play a bodyguard coming from that. She's obviously in the
new season. Nobody wants this. She has other projects going on.
This would be great for her. Jared Paddlecki's had a
good run since Supernatural. He's on the Texas Walker rebrout Yeah,
which I can never really get into, but it was there.
But I also feel like he just needs that next
(17:02):
big because Jennison wanted to do The Boys. Yes, and
then Jensen, Oh, it hurts my heart to talk about
this because this is when my do you remember the
Supernatural Boys had a really big falling out probably what happens. Oh,
it really hurts to talk about it. It's hard on
your family fights, you know, it's very difficult. So Jensen
Ackles and his wife Daniel Harris from One Tree Hill. Yes, yeah,
(17:24):
I mean something that's just I just love it. I
love it. I love Adam and oh yes, no, I
know who she is. Yes, I know that doesn't matter again.
I just love that all the stars of our favorite
early two thousand shows found it. You got, Yeah, all
kind of came together and they're all married and paired
(17:44):
off now, which I love. So. Yes, Jensen Ackles married
to Dinniel Ackles, who was on One Tree Hill. So
they worked on a reboot a prequel series of Supernatural
and it was announced and Jensen says that he didn't
know what was going to be announced at that time.
It kind of leaked and so their hand was fourth.
And so Jared Padalki saw the news for the first
(18:05):
time the show that he and Jensen had like worked
together on and become brothers. Really they are real life brothers. Yeah,
he was rebooting it without him, is what he saw.
So then Jared got on Twitter and was like getting
angry at Jensen publicly and saying he was left out,
he knew nothing about it. He was upset. And then
apparently they didn't talk for a while, but then they
(18:26):
did get on the phone and Jensen talked about it later. Yeah,
they did work it out. They worked it out on
the renex. Yeah, they worked on the phone. But I
kind of wish I had done in persons they could
have had one of their hugs. No, no, no, I don't
need to see it. That's their private, okay, reconciliation. But yeah,
basically they had mended fences behind the scenes about it,
and then the show got canceled. Anyway, that's huge tea
(18:47):
and also so sibling coded to have such a huge
fallout and be like, you know what, misunderstanding. That's fine
because you wouldn't often professionally as really close friends come
back from something that's that big of a deal. That
speaks to the brotherhood of Supernatural exactly exactly for million
a week, They're the whole fandom was just like we
were just this was over a week. This was months long. No,
(19:08):
I mean no, no, I think I think a week
or so to like they both started posting like normally
on and then later they talked about how they had
like fixed it up behind the scenes, that Jensen had
called him and said, hey, man, like this is so early.
It's really early talks. We obviously would have brought you in,
but we're just like thinking about it and these things
take so long. And then Jared was like, yeah, man,
I get it. You Like He's like, I get it.
(19:31):
I'm sorry that I was like so hot headed. I
was just like I saw it. It was in all
of filming. I jumped on Twitter. I should called you,
and then they mended fences sow. I love that. The
thing I mostly love about this new Netflix movie is
if like Jensen Accles played the brother or something, but
I think he would, yeah, get too whereak of that energy?
Like you just know that they do a little like
a background appearance or something, and I think you kind
(19:51):
of touched on something with this whole one tree heilm
to the natural Marriage, which is that as much as
it's about the different nostalgic shows, it is also about
the fact that all of these people kind of married
or dated other people from things. A lot of Adam
Bodie's like riz and backstory and attraction comes from the
fact that he is married to Blair Waldorf. In real life,
he's married to Latin Mista. They're both really talented, they're
(20:13):
both really great, but fans also have that added love
for that weird nostalgia. And so Layton's going to be
and nobody wants this and that's just like a bit
of a side role. She was in the Buccaneers in
a really small role. Obviously we really loved good Cop,
Bad Cop, but this would be like her real return
to like a leading rom com role. And I think
Jared needs it too. But there's just like fifty thousand
(20:34):
elements of nostalgia or boiled into one. And then it's
got the h like secret ingredient of the moment, which
is it has to be a BookTalk adaptation exactly. Booktoker
is really the any thing with the power to like
make these big adaptations, yeah kind of popular or not.
And what studios are looking for. It's interesting, It's like
it's very clear what audiences want at the moment is that, yeah,
we want hints of nostalgia from our favorite stars to
(20:56):
come back in different roles. And we love it coming
from that BookTalk area because that is such an influential space,
that's just guaranteed fan base. But I would love to
see more original scripts, but I don't think we'll get
them at the moment, at least if they come from
a book of like not still originally I do it
or something. But also we just want rom coms. And
I know that you and I talk about this all day,
(21:16):
and I guess we should be working is that all
people want to watch the moment is rom comms, and
nowhere is making good quality rom coms. Now they keep
marketing movies as rom comms, like Materialists and even maybe
like Splitsville and all these other shows Bold Beautiful Journey,
Big Well Beautiful Journey. Exactly, they're like, it's a rom com.
It's like, absolutely not a rom com. But it's almost
like they have to trick audiences into cinemas by telling
(21:38):
them it's one thing, and once they get in there
being like, it's actually a drama about this and this,
which is fine. But if you think people only want
to see rom cooms, make a rom com and also
don't trick people into spending thirty five dollars at this
cinner out and then being disappointed. That's why they hate
your movie. That's why they're reviewing it so badly, because
they thought that they were getting something out. I think
that's why people so many people didn't like Materialists, because
(21:58):
so many people, I guess they just still listen to
the spill in time is the when thinking it was
going to be a rom com and when it wasn't.
It's just like you can't even focus on the movie
you're watching because you're so jarred by what you you
feel like you've walked into the wrong cinema. Yeah, and
you and I loved Materialists. I love material I also
love because it felt like an old school kind of
romantic drama, that vibe of being like really serious or
(22:19):
like not super funny and rom comed but like a
rom com has to feel like that, and we're just
not getting them in cinemas and we're barely getting them
on streaming as well. Well, there's a lot on you
at the moment, like me Stone Jared Padilaki to save
the romcom genre. Yeah, no offense. We also meant no
pressure on that also hilarious. And Netflix comes out after
a record and be like, we're not doing it. We're
not doing But that would be okay because literally every
(22:39):
day at the moment when I opened my eyes, there
is another book to screen rom com adaptation and they're
all following your little formula that you've laid out. Yes,
it's very exciting. We will definitely be getting it. Happened
one Summer, which is based on a Tessa Bailey book,
and it's like, shit's creak slash smart. I don't know, Okay,
but it's got from the Vampire Diaries and it's got
(23:00):
Tyler Hoachland from Teen Wolf. So they are following Nicks
and Superman Superman. Oh, you got to mention Superman. But
I think we've nailed it here. This is the way forward.
What space. We'll let you know. Any other rumors regarding
rom comms, the rumor that no one cares about the
way you have spread, I'd like to spread. Stay tuned, Nana, Nana, Okay. Well,
speaking of nostalgia and drama and even Gossip Girl, I'm
(23:24):
gonna draw a straight line from Late Misa to Blake
Lively because Blake Lively has posted a carousel of images
on her Instagram account this week that has garnered a
lot of headlines, and it's a collection of photos from
behind the scenes of Gossip Girl, mainly from the first
year of production. So it's a lord of Blake with
the cast and crew. There's a photo from the very
(23:44):
famous the hundredth Anniversary where she did the Marilyn Monroe number.
There's photos of her shooting the Paris scenes with the crew.
There's lots of behind the scenes moments of her with
like Chase Crawford and Ed Westwick, her and aed A
doing at one stage like a post together and matching
white shorts. She and Chase are in a jumping castle
with balloons. I don't remember that episode. She's posted the
(24:05):
prom photo with Penn Badgeley when she's in the iconic
gold dress and that's when they were dating time. And
she's posted a photo from her own twenty first birthday,
yes with all the people right. There's photos of her
hugging late Mesta, And there's also a lot of photos
of Michelle Tratchenberg, which is really moving because she did
pass away this year. But a lot of them just
feel like a collection of crazy images of you know,
(24:27):
like when I don't know if you did this, but
like my early twenties, like going out with my friends
and stuff, and then the next day you would just
post like fifty photos to Instagram of like every single blurry,
crazy moment of the night, and a lot of it
is just you and your friend's pulling faces. It's got
that energy, yeah, like the energy of like when you're
moving house and you like go through all the photos
to see what you can get rid of and you
send them to all your mates. It's exactly but she
(24:48):
posted them instick Yeah exactly. It's very very uncurated behind
the scenes of gossip Girl, which we love. And then
the caption explains the huge photo dump of images where
she said the summer gossip Girl turned eighteen, because gossip
Girl is eighteen years old, crazy crazy, and yet I
am only twenty and I'm just a babe. Yeah, And
(25:09):
then she goes on to write underneath that this show
was my college. It was my education, my social life,
my hard work, my late nights and early mornings, my teacher.
New York City and Silver Cup Studios and sometimes Paris
were my campus for six years. So many memories. What
a decade. There's full stops, I think that's how she
(25:29):
wants us to say it. Then there's a little love
heart and she says, what a university. My initial thought
to this was I actually thought it was quite heartwarming,
because oh love Gossip Girl. I think it's a great show.
I've watched it many, many, many times. And she put
the Young Kid's song at the soundtrack to the post,
yeah exactly, which I also thought was like crazy nostalgic.
(25:50):
And I also just thought it was really lovely. How
all these celebrities because Adam Brodie is the same we
were talking about recently. All these celebrities are at a
point now where they're far enough removed from these shows
that made them so famous as young adults and that
they all tried to sort of get away from, and
they talked about not liking it. Because Blake Lively has
never talked overly positive about Gossip Girl, Like she doesn't
(26:12):
say heaps of terrible things about it, and I don't
think she had a bad time on set or anything
like that, but she has talked about the fact and
the producers have confirmed this that she didn't want to
be Serena vander Woodson. Her career and movies were taking
off and she wanted to be a movie star, and
the thought of locking herself in for five years on
a TV show that you didn't know how popular it
was going to be, but because of the contract you
(26:32):
could have just been locked into it for a long time.
She didn't want to do and it took a lot
of convincing, and then when Gossip Girl was finishing, she
tried to pick roles very different to that because she
thought Gossip Girl made her look like a very bad actress.
And whenever people said the character of Serena, and she'd say, well,
it's a caricature, it's not really a character. It's just
me kind of like playing the ideal of this person,
(26:54):
but she's not a real person, and like very that
side of it. So my first thought of seeing this
carousel was like, this is really lovely and nostalogy can
It made me want to go back and watch Gossip
Girls Season one for the fiftieth time. But then the
fallout from it has been crazy negative. Right, Yeah, so
the discourse has been absolutely nuts since she posted this.
(27:14):
So it has one point seven million likes, but Blake
obviously has comments turned off currently. Yeah, so there's not
a lot of comments on her post, but so that
means it obviously everyone's taken. There's many, many feelings, bottled
them up and like gone over to TikTok to share
them all. One theory that was kicking around about the
reason that she's posted these not because like God forbid,
it's the eighteenth anniversary and she just wanted to celebrate
this thing that means something to her. But people were like,
(27:36):
this means her and Ryan Reynolds getting divorced. I saw
everyone saying that and it's not very often these circumstances
I can one hundred percent say that something isn't true. Yeah,
but I'm going to go out in the leg and
say I just don't think that's I think that's true.
People were like, she's found these photos, and she's like
spiraling and wanting attention, and so like she's getting divorced,
and so she found the photos in divorcing and moving home.
(27:57):
First of all, I think Blake Lively has someone who
can pack up her own home for her. Yeah, the
event that that happened, I don't think Blake Lively was
going through old photo boxes and pulling out photos during
her divorce. That's moving those boxes from one mansion to another.
I know. People have really really made a story here.
So one was that they think that Brian Reynolds and
Blake Lively are done. So yeah, yeah, what ones have
(28:17):
you seen? I've seen all the divorce ones. I've also
seen that it's a bit of a desperate cry for help.
This one. I don't think it's a desperate cry for help.
But I do think there's something in Obviously, she's had
to be so careful about what she posts since the
whole fallout from it ends with us. From the press
tour of that movie, where people just turned against her,
(28:38):
it felt like the world turned against her and hated her.
Then the story came out about her allegations toward Justin Baldoni,
and then watching the back and forth and the court
proceedings and everything it's been released since then, some people
have come to her side, but there's still a lot
of people in the world who think she's absolutely pure evil. Yeah,
and I think not just sort of psychoanalyze Blake Lively,
Yet here we are. I do think there's a sense
(29:00):
of if it was me, that would be a sense of, Hey,
remember when you guys just loved the TV show I
was on. Everyone thought I had great hair and like,
because people did love her for such a long time
they did. And I mean, I don't know if she's
a good person or not. I've even't met the woman,
but I do think it was posting from a time
when things maybe seemed a bit simpler because she was
on a TV show that people loved, and people loved
how she dressed, and they loved her character, and they
(29:22):
loved when she did press to it, and they loved
her outfits, and she was the queen of them at
ball and people loved her and Ryan Reynolds. They were
like the ideal couple, and I think it was like
a throwback to that time. But I also think I've
seen a lot of people comment that they think it's
her trying to like claw her way back into popularity,
and it's her way of trying to claw her way
back into the lives of her Gossip Girl co stars,
(29:42):
because there's this idea that they've all kind of turned
against her and want to be away from her, which
again I don't see any kind of truth in, but
it was interesting. She had a birthday a few months
ago and it was the first time she'd posted in
a really long time, and she was just reposting everyone's
birthday wishes, and a lot of it was her sisterhood
of the Traveling Pants Coastars, so she's very close with still,
(30:04):
most notably Amber Tamblin that it was a few other friends,
but everyone was like, why does no one from Gossip
Girl or publicly acknowledge anyway. Yeah, I think that's interesting
because a big part of I guess the fallout last
year from the it Ends with Us stuff long before
the lawsuits had happened. Was people drudging up this idea
that Blake Clavely and Layton Mester had had a big
feud on Gossip Girl, and people were pulling up old
(30:25):
clips where like Blake might say a joke and it
didn't land and people didn't laugh, but often Layton would
laugh in the clip. But people really started to spin
this story that they had like actively hated each other
and they'd been bullying involved. But to the point where
like people had to go back and look at interviews
they've given over the years. They've addressed this so many times,
and they've essentially just said we're coworkers and we're nothing more.
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But I kind of think that what she's done here
is sort of what you're saying. She knows the anniversary
is coming up. Every time the anniversary of one of
these nostalgic shows comes up, like every publication in the
world does a carousel and memes and videos going anniversary,
and she knows that's going to happen and people are
going to be talking about it. So maybe she kind
of wanted to be like, I'm celebrating this and look
how nice and friendly we all were, and there's no
(31:07):
bad blood here because she knows, like you said that
on her birthday, on these big events, when no one
tags her in anything, when no one talks about her,
it becomes this big, awkward talking point. So maybe she
just wanted to be seen to be like engaging and
showing that like this was her university, as she says,
like she had fun here, but she might not be
friends with these people anymore. Yeah, I think that was
the very clear subtext around it. And again, in any
(31:28):
other day, it would just be like, here are all
these unseen behind the scenes foos a Gossip Girl and
I think, yeah, there's one of her and Layton hugging.
There's her and Chase hugging, and her and Ed and
like it does make it look like it was the
loveliest experience in the world, which is a side that
we don't really see from most of the Gossip Girl
cast looking back on the show. But it's interesting how
Layton became such a big figure in the Justin Baldoni
(31:51):
verse Blake Lively situation because people were using as she
was saying, using clips from them from like eighteen years
ago and saying, look, Blake Lively has always been a
bad person, where a lot of the clips of them
just like having a little back and forth on stage
and laughing, and they've always said we were like friendly coworkers,
didn't hang out together, And they both addressed it at
(32:13):
the time where like Layton compared them to like George
Clooney and Brad Pitt. I was like, Okay, Lake, yeah,
you two Gossip Girl stars are at that level. Yeah,
I stand by George Clooney and Brad Pitt hang out
more than most to it. But she was kind of
talking about like how she'd seen all these headlines about
you know, actors like Natalie Portman and Scarlet Johansson on
the set of The Other Bowling Girl, and she compared
them to that, being like, why do you guys always
say women are feuding white never say the men are feuding,
(32:35):
Like it's crazy. But there was a time where there
were reports that like Layton's wardrobe budget was increased and
then Blake's having success in feature films and it's causing
all this tension on set. And Blake's publicist actually came
out and said Blake and Layton have never been best
friends and never profess to be. Blake goes to work,
does her job and goes home like they were releasing
statements like that at the time. That is a crazy
(32:56):
stay crazy to put out there, because it's not squashing
any fires. If anything, it was heightening the fire. But
I also get it. You don't have to be best
friends with your coworker. Yeah, but people expect, no, you're
my best friend to say it all the time. I
don't think that's true because the other day I asked
you to come to an event with me, and you said,
don't you want to take a friend? And I really
think that in my bones because I feel like I
(33:17):
follow you everywhere. Okay, we're no Latin and Blake say
we're the Layton and Blake of this offics apparently start
a rumor. The thing is, I also find it very
reasonable and not at all scandalous that in the six
years that show was on air that there were feuds
and issues behind the scenes. And that happens in a
normal workplace, So why wouldn't it happen on a TV
show where they're working like fifteen hours a day and
(33:40):
then you have all the fame throwing in and they're
really young, Like, yes, they would have had fights, of course,
would have and I just didn't get on that. Yeah,
that's fine, and that adds to I think the lore
of the show, and I love that. But then this
whole thing started with, Oh, she hasn't tagged anyone. No
one's tagged her, Chase Crawford, you were saying he liked it.
Soford liked it. Chase is like everyone's gossip girl, Like
(34:02):
He's like, I'll give it a like. But she didn't
tag anyone. I think she just knows if she does anything,
Like she's even posting this is like lighting a match
and chucking it away. Well, I just like anyone also
on the public eye except her sort of core group
of friends, like her family, the sister of the Traveling
Pants girls on right, anyone else is very hesitant to
weigh in in any way. Yeah, and I kind of understand.
(34:23):
I mean, this has only just happened as a recording,
so I don't know the truth of it. But even
today there's a report that a man was arrested trying
to get into Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's home because
he was trying to serve Taylor Swift with legal papers,
trespassed on property at like two am or am and
it's putting him climbing into Travis Kelsey's home where they're
(34:43):
like reportedly living at the moment, and like the engagement
flowers are all set up there and all the arbors
are still there because that those flowers cost millions of
dollars and he's having to climb over them trying to
get to Taylor Swift. And she looks out the window
where she's making her sourdough bread and she sees a
strange man in the backyard. And I'm only making this up.
I don't know how it happened, but I'm just saying.
The report is today that yeah, he was arrested getting
(35:04):
into the house, but to serve her legal papers allegedly
as a story from Justin Baldonia's team, so that she
has to to fight in the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni case.
And that's already gone back and forth so many times
with the judge being like, Nope, she doesn't have to come,
and they keep like it is a circus to every
extent of the word. This is a celebrity circus. And
I think, you know, we all have our thoughts and
opinions on it. When you talk about them till the
(35:25):
end of time. But I think where Blake's come in
here is like, as you said, a lot of celebs
aren't willing to engage with her content at the moment.
I don't think she was going to tag the cast
and risk running headlines even though they're already happening going.
No one liked her posts, no one shared her posts,
no one commented on it, so they all hate her.
But she also wanted to engage and be like I
love this show, yeah, look at it, and yes, obviously
like she wants to share something nice about herself, knowing
(35:49):
that the bad headlines are still coming no matter what
she does. And to be honest, I just don't think
there's anything she could have posted on this day that
would make people like or dislike her. I feel like
everyone's picked aside. And I also don't think this means
that anyone in the Gossip Girl cast has like we know,
she and Penn Badgeley are like on quite good terms.
They're both like married to other people with kids, not
that stops you from being like a person, but they
(36:12):
continued working together long after they've broken up and spoke
a lot about how they were fine and so everyone
thinks that's kind of fine. Her and Layton. I think
people would love to see more of them together. I
don't ever see that kind of happening, even though they're
both in the industry and they must. Once Blake starts
going back to those events, they must kind of crossover.
But I think Layton goes to more kind of like
industry awards stuff, and then Blake goes to a bit
(36:34):
more of the fashiony stuff for New York, So maybe
they haven't crossed over. Yeah, And then every not everyone
in the cast engages with Ed Westwick, Kelly Is, Kelly
Rutherford heavily engages with Ed Westwich, and Chase Crawford was
also at his wedding. Yes, they all was his wedding. Yes,
So for anyone who doesn't know, Ed Westwick was accused
of rape and sexual assault. He did not face any
(36:56):
charges because of insufficient evidence, but there were a number
of different women who came forward about it, and I
think that has really colored a lot of the Gold
commentary too, because now in any of the stars post
throwback photos, and I think that there's many reasons why
Blake has turned the comments off. But I think other
people in the past have turned comments off. Is that
that becomes a big thing in the comments of people
(37:16):
being like, how could you support him? How could you
go to his wedding? How could you do this? Why
aren't and if you say anything about it, that becomes
a big thing. You know who the interesting thing is
who seems to be the most level headed and at
peace with the show is Taylor Moms who played Jenny Humphrey. Yes,
and so Jenny the character obviously went off the rails
towards the end of Gossip Girl, but that happened because
(37:37):
Taylor in real life, the stories of her onset that
she would She wanted to focus on her band. She
didn't want to be on the show anymore. Apparently, she
would come in hours late, she wouldn't say her lines,
Guest stars would complain about her and not want to
work with her. The cast would not want to work
with her, so they wrote her out of the show
to release her. And now she's an incredibly successful musician
and she has been walking a lot of red carpets
(37:58):
lately talking about how much she appreciates the world of
Gossip Girl. She appreciates the fans she loves and people
come up to her and say they love Gossip Girl
because she's like just very at peace and happy with it.
And I'm like, out of all that, of all of them,
Jenny Humphrey, the most kind of is the okay the
Gossip Girl mentioned. Yeah, and do you know what I
love when that happened, And I mean she was young.
(38:19):
Young people do stupid shit. But when that happened, all
the angles, all the hot takes were like, this girl's
ruined her career. She's ruined it. Cindy lu who from
the grin, She's over, she's done. She's still in the
band she left the show to be, She's still doing
the big black eyeliner, she still has the plot hold
that she's really cheated the look. A decade later, still
the exact same girl that she was, and the only
(38:41):
one who seems genuinely happy to talk about Gossip Girl
while also being at the VMA's nominated and being successful
in her own right. So you know what, good on you, Taylor,
We love that? Who love that? The true star of
Gossip Girl? Yeah, Humphrey, exactly. She was so real and
she was like, I just want to go to fashion school,
but like in real life, she wanted to go play
music and she did well. I had. What everyone's taken
away from this is that we just all need to
(39:01):
go back and watch the OG Gossip Girl, Yes, because
it's beautiful, it's weird. Those people are crazy. We were
trying to explain it to one of the youths in
the office because she's only seen The Summer I Turn Pretty,
and I was like, no, no, my god, this show
the kids to love you just watching the Summer I
Turn Pretty and that's the first like proper teen show.
They have washed them. You guys don't know. They're like,
what team were you want? I was like, it's impossible
(39:22):
to say it was a love hexagon. Who knows? Yeah,
you just like things happen that you guys can't even
conceive of in our shows. I think that's the real takeaway. Also,
I'm sure Blake Lively is going to be carefully posting
until next year because it's hard to think of it now,
But the first official kind of court date for Blake
Lively and Jospelldoni is still going to be early next
year when things kick off. At the moment, they're still
in depositions and evidence gathering everything, so she has a
(39:44):
long road ahead of her. But I'm just going to
go and say that I appreciated her carousel. I thought
it was a lovely post. Well. Thank you so much
for listening to The Spill, Shay and to Tina for
joining us. Love your insights, and if you love the Spill,
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(40:06):
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