January 12, 2025 • 27 mins
On the show today, The Spill is officially back for 2025 and there are a lot of new celebrity stories and scandals we need to discuss immediately.
The devastating LA fires have also had a huge impact on the entertainment industry and awards season, while an unexpected celebrity antihero is attracting most of the headlines.
Hugh Jackman has gone public with his new relationship, and now we need to talk about those (incredibly staged) photos and the story people have cooked up around them.
Plus, you’re not imagining it, so many famous couples appear to have broken up in the same week. But there’s a strategic explanation behind it.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
From Mom Maya. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop
culture fix. I'm m Vernon and I'm Laura Brodnick. Happy Monday,
Happy Monday to you. We are back. We did come
back a little bit for the Golden Globe in a
two special episodes.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Dramatic fashion as we are non dramatic.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
But our Hot Pod summer series is over. We are
back irl in real time. However, if you haven't listened
to our Hot Pod summer series, just go back in
your feed. We've done a lot and a lot of
content there. Today on the show, we are talking about
all of the celebrity breakups that happened during December and
early jan There were a lot of them, and there
(00:52):
is a reason why.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But first, but first, we wanted to touch on something
that has been very much in the news in the
social media cycle the last couple of days, and that
is the fires that are taking place in la the
devastating fires that have destroyed thousands of home, displaced millions
of people, people of lives. It's a really tragic circumstance
and in saying that, very aware that there's many other
(01:16):
events of this scale happening across the world at all
times and especially now, but just being the fact that
we're an entertainment podcast, we were going to talk more
just about how this is affecting the entertainment industry and
what the flow and effect will be for us as consumers,
because this is happening right in Hollywood. Although if you
saw those pictures of the Hollywood Sign on fire, that
was ai. I was like, guys, give it a rest.
(01:37):
There's real photos going around that are more tragic than that.
But it's happening during Hollywood's peak awards season time and
also peak premiere time, so lots of events canceled. The
cancelation started rolling through early last week when Unstoppable, which
is the movie that Jennifer Lopez made with Ben Affleck No,
that whole drama, Yeah, the premiere for that was canceled.
(01:58):
And in fact, I saw Jennifer Lopez saying today that
she was stepping back from all press commitments and things
to just focus on the fires and that and everything
that's happening around her home.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Because yeah, it's not just Hollywood like where the Hub is,
but every celebrity lives there as well.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Exactly, and all the events are taking place in filming
and everything so the premiere for Wolfman was canceled, as
well as premiere events for Betterman and the Pit TV series.
Also the Academy Awards, so the nominations opened on jan
eighth and was sent to close on January twelfth. That
gives everyone the Academy time to watch all their screeners,
although we know most of them don't watch screeners, but
(02:33):
you know, that's another conversation for we did. Yeah, we
do the work. The nominations to like send your ballot
in were extended by a few days, and the announcement
of the nomination has then just been pushed to nineteen.
I actually wonder if that'll be pushed again. That's the
everything at the time of recording is very up in
the air, which will be interesting to see how just
a flow on effect that has for the Oscars in
(02:55):
general by pushing everything back, because at this stage some
of those like really big fires have still not been
properly contained, and it's hard to sort of say what's
going to happen. So I would sort of say that
a lot of this stuff is going to be moved again.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I would say the announcement that the Oscar nominations would
being pushed back was the thing that made me realize
how deeply serious the fires were. Yeah, which does sound
very complacent as someone who works in media, because obviously
people's lives are being destroyed, and I think it's like
sixteen people who have tragically died, and there's also sixteen
(03:27):
people who have been unaccounted for, and on top of that,
five thousand homes have also been destroyed. But I think
when a massive international announcement like the nominations happens, I
think that's what really makes everyone focus in.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, exactly that and sort of seeing I guess, like
the celebrities very front facing in this particular event, and
I think that's why there's been so attention on it
compared to some other things in the world. And then
the Screen Actors Guild nominations that was meant to be
a big live broadcast that was canceled. They were just
set out. The Critics' Choice Awards have been moved from Jan.
Twelve to Jan twenty six, and then the American Film
(04:01):
Institute Awards luncheon that was moved. The British Academy of
Film and Television, like the big bafter event in Hollywood,
was postponed, so just been this whole role on effect.
A lot of shows have also stopped filming, so like
even Hacks, which is interesting because they were making such
a big deal about the fact that they had to
at the Golden Globes when they won their award, they
got up and talked for having to film very early
(04:22):
the next morning. So no one gives Jean Smart any alcohol.
But yeah, a number of shows from like The New Suits, Freeboot,
and Ted TV show, like all of these play things.
So many that's just a few. I mean, Gray's Anatomy,
Jimmy Kimmellive have all been affected. So it's because the
fires are so close to the lots where they shoot
all of these things, they've all been postponed, which, just
(04:42):
like the writers strike, depends how long the post boneman
is effects. So yeah, a lot of different like the
film and TV industry to an extent, like coming to
a stand still for the moment during the biggest awards
season of the year for them, and then alongside that,
we're seeing so many stories of celebrities losing their homes.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah. I saw an interview with Jennifer Ghana, who is
known for doing a lot of like community and charitable
work have heard during Christmas and Thankgiving with and Affleck.
But I think what hit in this interview was that
celebrities are experiencing lost to a whole new level. She said,
I did lose a friend who did not get out
in time. My heart bleeds for my friends, as well
(05:22):
as the guilt that she faced for being able to
walk through a home and like seeing everyone around her
just have like their lives completely destroyed. I think those
interviews are really important because those interviews, although there are
real people out there who are losing their homes and
losing their lives, it's those interviews that will get picked
up for the rest of the world to be able
to see the devastation from these fives.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, exactly. It's been interesting to see the amount of
backlash there's been for celebrities talking about losing their homes.
And obviously there's a huge difference between millionaire celebrity losing
their home to you know, an average.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Work and class of difference.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And that's the thing two of people saying like, oh,
it's just like that whole area is reach. It's like
there's a few pockets that are like the mansions and rich,
but a lot of the other places that have been
decimated destroy are just regular families and people, And so
I have actually haven't seen a celebrities be super tone
deaf and be complaining about their loss over other peoples.
A lot of people have been celebrities like a Paris
(06:19):
Hilton who have commented and those kind of people have
been saying like, yeah, I lost my home. But I
understand that this is a you know, a widespread situation
and you know, even the Kardashians have been fighting with
the mayor of La and it's a whole different, it's
a whole Whitney Cummings, the TV producer and comedian, has
been out in her car trying to like personally track
down arsenists that she heard were starting, like because some
(06:41):
of the fires have been started by people by arsonists
and have like destroyed home. So she's like live streaming
from her car chasing them down. I'm like, oh, I
think that's probably a bit wouldn't say that was the state.
And also a weird anti hero that has come out
of this whole situation, Spencer Pratt from the Hills. Have
you seen this all over?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
TikTok? That is all my TikTok feed, he is here
been Heidi.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yes, he and Heidie. It's so weird that you don't
know who they are to because.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You know them now.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
No, no, to elder millennials, this is like, this is
top tier celebrity information because they were the infamous Villains
on the Hills for the Whole Seas and the reality
TV show and made a lot of money then, but
like infamously haven't like they're saying they have no money.
They still haven't. Mansion that burned down, lost their insurance.
I don't I know so much by their life because
he has just been like shamelessly updating their TikTok and
(07:28):
everything and trying to get like people to support them.
But then Heidie's music has, like because she had this
like she had a bit of a pop star crew
but not a very big one, has like gone like
smashing up the charts because people are streaming her music
to support them financially. But you also almost like watched
in real time is there because he's so big on
TikTok and instrument snapchat all the time. Every day he
still does that old school thing of like just you know,
(07:50):
updating people every ten seconds of his day of what
he's doing, and so you almost watch it happen. He's like, Oh,
there's a fire. Oh, we can kind of see it.
Oh there's a bit of smoke. Oh I think it's fine.
Oh shit, we have to leave. What have we got
in the car? Oh I'm watching my house burn down
in real time. This is my house that's gone, Like
you watched it happen. And so it's really interesting how
because he's been so open about it and has been providing
people with like this weird entertainment and also being very
(08:13):
vulnerable that he's become the sort of online face.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Of this, which is very yeah, like for everyone who
wants to track, I guess what's happening in real time.
It's all over his socials. And he's also been quite
vocal with how the media is treating their own experience,
like yahnitie, Like he was saying, we used to be
on like every like broke celebrity list, Like people would
call us broke. And yet when our house gets destroyed,
(08:37):
when now on like rich Mansions, I'd get that have
been destroyed, yeah, in the fires, And I think that's
a fair call.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It is definitely a fair call. Like when he was saying, like,
you know, their friends have started to go fund me,
which obviously have a lot of thoughts around different celebrities
sharing gofund me. It was interesting that Mandy Moore was
getting really slammed for sharing her own her brother in
law's go fund me, and people were like, what about
everyone else who doesn't have rich celebrity friends, and she
was like, We're all trying to do the best we can.
No one's forcing you to do everything. Kindly f off
(09:04):
and then Spencer's jumping in and defending Mandy Moore and
saying she flew me on a plane, wants to New
York to hang out with me. So I'm going to
currently this is getting really too much. But I mean,
the thing about Spencer and Heidi two is like, yes,
they did lose everything, but at the same time they
are staying I know everything's relative in different ways, but
that's obviously horrendous. And when she was crying I just
want to go home, I was like, oh god, I
really feel that, like you would just want to go home.
(09:25):
But at the same time they're staying in a Santa
Barbara house that their family are, Yeah, so they have
somewhere to go at least. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's all relative, but I think it's good that the
celebrities are calling out that they need help, like La
needs help. Yeah, but don't just stop at the celebrity stories,
like there are real people out there, like the firefighters
were working so hard, like they have stories as well,
So don't just stop on the surface.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
One hundred.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So it has been confirmed. Kind of that, Hugh Jackman,
It has been confirmed, great area. Okay, I mean I
platonically hold hands with my friends, but sure whatever, Hugh
Jackman and Southern Fosters seem to be definitely dating. So
to take you back a little, I would love.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
For you and I next time we go out somewhere
to walk around holding hands and gazing into each other's
eyes like that, and just see what people say.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
We do hang out every night, so that's true.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It doesn't say anything our next step up in our relationship.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
To take your mind back. So, Hugh Jackman and Broadway
star Sudden Foster, they were doing a musical together, The
Music Man. They were together from as in like professionally
together from December twenty twenty one to when it ended
in January twenty twenty three. There were some rumors that
there was an affair happening between the two of them,
and then in September twenty twenty three, Hugh Jackman announced
(10:43):
his separation from his wife, Debuly Furnace after twenty seven
years of being together. And then in October twenty twenty four,
Sudden Foster filed her divorce with her husband, Ted Griffin.
So everyone was kind of like, oh, they're definitely dating
now that they're both separated, But it was only recently
when they were both out on a date in California
(11:03):
that they were seen holding hands and smiling, smiling to
the cameras that the paparazzi cameras that were taking fred
A rash with them, and they looked very good.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
They looked very good, which is a key to whether
they were staged or not.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Do you think it's too.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Soon, No, I mean these rumors have been out for Also.
The thing about this is that like everyone's jumping to
a lot of assumptions, but we have no idea of
the actual timeline. We know they were like in the
music Man and that was a huge thing, and that
we're in rehearsals for a long time. They've also known
each other for twenty years, so it's like they just
met on The Music Man. You look really shocked by that.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
They've known each other for twenty now.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
They're both in the broadway circuit like Sutton Foster was.
You know, she was a star of Younger and also
of the TV show bun Heads, which is great. But
more than that, she is known as a broadway star.
That's why I nearly lost my mind when I met
her once on a rooftop in New York and we
had a drink at a party. It's no big deal
because she is like one of the most famous Broadway
stars in the world, and that's how they knew each other.
But the thing is, we don't know the timeline of exactly,
(11:59):
like how long they were separated from their partners before
this all happened. We don't know when they're romance kicked off,
but it's been like over a year since they first
went into rehearsals for The Music Man, and so if
it's been since then, they've been secretly together for over
a year. Yeah, before having their first public moment, there
were signs leading up to it that it was going
to happen, most notably that she's performing in a new musical,
(12:21):
and he was photographed in the audience like applauding, taking photos.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
He's been doing a Travis Kelsey. He's been at every
single one of her problem. Yeah, he was there every
night like that was a huge deal. So they were
sort of laying the groundwork and then these photos came out.
And I don't think every sort of sighting of celebrities
is staged, per se. I think a lot of the
time they just say like, we're gonna step out. We
know we're gonna get photographed, and that's fine. This felt
a little different because they're in La so it's not
(12:47):
a huge surprise that there'd be paparazzi around, but they
were a bit far from all the traditional hot spots
around there where you know how we saw those photos
of March Short and Meryl Street the other well.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
They saw that they were like, you know what, me too, Yeah,
we're going to do that. But that wasn't a real
celebrity hot spot where like in front of the restaurant
they were at, like paparazzi line up there from early
in the afternoon to catch slops coming in and out.
So if you go there, you kind of know the
photos are going to get.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
If you want to be photographed by a paparazzi, go there.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, Merritt was like, I know where to go, don't
worry about it. But this time they were like a
bit further away from like the big bustling restaurants. They
were in like a very quiet area. And the photos
are so beautifully photographed in stage. It looks like they
look so relaxed. They look I mean, Sutton Foster, you
look Topp Tier, the long coat and the heels smiling together,
(13:36):
they're walking slowly. You can so tell with celebrity photos
if they're photographed at quite a bad angle, they look shocked,
like even celebrities can photograph very badly if they're surprised.
Whereas these guys, you know, they looked very stage. They
look very comfortable, and especially like Sutton's not a very
big paparazzi well neither few but her, especially like she's
on a big paparazzi person. It's hard to know that
(13:58):
if they were getting photos taken that close up, because
they very they're not long lands, they're very close up,
that she would look that calm and relaxed. And the
other thing is that the photos were exclusively released by People,
and Foster and Hugh Jackman both have especially Sutain, have
like a long history of releasing like exclusives or like
private details about their lives with People magazine because there's
(14:21):
that kind of like behind the scenes level of trust
they have with a lot of celebrities. So if it
was TMZ, i'd say not staged beautiful photos with People magazine. Yeah,
just slightly stick.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Great lighting, great lighting, dark.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Well, they're probably like they wanted to control the narrative
a bit, like they knew they were going to start.
You know, they've been hidden away, which goes to show
that like if you don't want to be seen, you
don't have to be seen. They've been hidden away for
so long. They've made the decision now they're going to
start going to each other's events. So they wanted to
control the first photos that came out, because what if
you got one of them like kind of scurrying out
of the back of it, you know, Broadway after party.
(14:54):
They could look flussed, they could look you know, they
could look angry, Like it just takes one photo for
the narrative to be set in a very negative way.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And I think when they're like scurrying happens, Yeah, and
trying to hide. I think that's what also keeps fueling
the cheating rumors.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yes, yeah, that's exactly right. Like if they I had
looked really guilty and sneaky, it would have for that relationship.
But when these photos came out, like everyone, like a
few people were commenting angry things online, but most people
like just what we just said. We've been taken in
by it.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
They look beautiful, they look so happy.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It's a very clever way to launch their relationship.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, I feel like as an Australian, Yeah, no one
else in the world is thinking this. The minute I
saw those photos, yes, I thought they were gorgeous, but
all I could think about was Deborah lee Finess.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yes, and that's the hard thing about this is that
my heart like low Ki Rogan, I know. But that's
the thing is that this is not something I've been
talking to my friends about. We've been assigning this narrative
to her, that she's the jilted other woman, that she
was cheated on, that she's the victim, and also maybe
she is, like her friend did put out that, you know,
remember that statement. Her friend commented and was like this
(15:59):
is all Yeah, this has all happened without deb knowing,
and she's upset. Remember that happened. And then Deborah like
accidentally or maybe didn't realize is public like to comment
supporting her. So there've been a few little telltales. Sign
have been a few sources saying, like, you know, a
source close to Deborah says that she's shocked and heartbroken.
But the thing is, we don't know for sure, Like
we don't know if they were separated for a really
(16:19):
long time. We don't know if she was the one
who was like I'm out of here, you know what
I mean, Like we've just assigned this narrative because you've
got Hugh out either partying with Ryan Reynolds and Taylor
Swift or now walking around with like this beautiful, successful woman.
Everyone's saying that he's kind of the winner and she's
the poor, broken, jilted woman because we don't know that
is true.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But like the stuff that he's doing, like especially with
like Wilverine Deadpool, like out with all of these like
a less celebrities, also younger celebrities. Yeah, it feels like
the metaphorical chain has broken and he's allowed to do
like quote unquote allowed to do all of these times. Yeah,
that's well, she's at home, stuck in.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Australia exactly, and that's me because she's not as public
a person as him, and it's be very strange for her.
I mean, maybe she'll do a tell all interview, but
I'd say probably not, and a lot about a memoir
maybe potentially. Or she was also very active in a
lot of charity, so if she's doing like a big
cover story for a ch already, she might have a
few well placed quotes in there. But I don't think
she's the type of person to do like a bit
(17:15):
of a tell all and talk about her heartbreaks. And
we'll never really know. But I just think it was
interesting how quickly we jumped to like assigning her as
like the poor victim. She might be partying it up
somewhere being like true, but that man loose he was
always singing around the house, was so annoying, so happy
to be free of him. So the other news story
or set of news stories, I'm using news very loosely.
(17:35):
There news in our world that have been bubbling away
over the last couple of weeks that we need to
discuss is the number of celebrity breakups that's been so many,
so many so had.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
To happen when we were busying partying at the beach.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, because the whole party at the beach, I don't
know you. I was like in the suburbs of Brisbane
with my nephews jumping all over me.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But yeah, I was scolding at everyone's cabanas, and then
I got in trouble for writing about how much I
hate cabaness.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, you've got some enemies, a lot of enemies anyway.
So what we're trying to say is that our holiday
was personally affected. But a number of celebrity breakups that happened.
I'll just go down the list we have because there's
a lot of big ones. Again, this one shocked me.
Jessica Albert and Cash Warren.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah massive that they've been together for ever.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
They've been together for sixteen years. And also they have
two daughters and a son. All their names start with H,
which I think is cute. And one of her daughters
is named Haven because she was born in like her sack.
Why do I know that?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Oh did she birth the sack? That's quite rare. That's
what she's here from working at Mama, and I know
that's a very rare.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
So she came into the world and her haven, so
they named her haven. I hate having a photographic memory
sometimes because I'll never that fact is going to burg
into my brain.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Don't look up what that looks like.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's no, I don't want to see it anyway. Why
this is interesting is that Jessica Alba when she became
very famous at like I think she was seventeen, and
then started filming a lot of big shows at eighteen.
I remember because she's on Dark Angel, which was an
incredible sci fi show that I was obsessed with.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
She in Fantastic four, well, yo, that came.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
That came later, But she was very infamously engaged to
her Dark Angel coast Michael Weatherley, who went on Me
and NCIS and talked about the fact that she just
came into Hollywood and met this older man who was
her love interest. He was like, We're getting married, and
she was like okay, didn't really know what to do.
And then when their relationship broke up, and then she
had a horrible time in Hollywood on Fantastic four, where
they told her not to cry because she would look
(19:25):
too ugly and they would see Gi in the tears. Later,
she stepped away from Hollywood from a long time, went
and built her billion dollar lifestyle empire and married Cash
and he was even though he's like a very you know, successful,
good looking man because he's not an actor, was kind
of seen as her stepping away from Hollywood and having
this very anti famous marriage, even though they've been like
(19:45):
very public with their love story over the years, but
in the last couple of months or even the last
few years, she's talked about like going through the roommate
stage with him and how hard it is when you
just become like co parents and like almost like business
partners and the marriage side of your like the romantic
side of your relationship goes away. And so when they
announced their split, So when news came out that there
(20:07):
split had happened, which they haven't said anything, I think
is important to note, but I feel like.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Something was brewing though, because she did that Netflix Movieger Warning,
and I felt like it was the first time in
ages that we've seen her not only in a big movie,
but like one of those blockbuster actioning one.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, exactly, She's stepping back into acting now, which I
love because, as they said, big fan. So they haven't
confirmed it, but it's been confirmed by a number of outlets,
and she's quite active on Instagram in particular, and so
I feel like if it wasn't true, she would have
said something by now. But it's been a while. So
we had then, and then we had Austin Butler and Kayagerber.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I didn't realize they were together for like three years. Yeah,
it felt like two seconds.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It's so weird. They're ten years apart, which I guess
in Hollywood is just normal. But I he was with
Vanessa Hudgens for a really long time, remember that. And
there are those viral pictures of Vanessa meeting Kaya, and
like Vanessa looks like this fully formed woman who's on
the red carp and period. Yeah, it's like leaning up
to shake her hand as child, and it's just like
when you kind of know what's happening. But I think he.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Also had like got a huge brunt for like how
Vanessa was the one who pushed him to do Elvis. Yeah,
and he never like thanked her congratulated her publicly. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well, she told the story of how I was singing
on the car and she said to him when she
heard his voice, like you should play Elvis, not knowing
the voice. Drama she was going to unleash on the world.
And then he did an interview and said, oh, a
friend of mine, yeah, suggested I play Elvis, And the
fans just tore that man down, saying, how dare you
call her a friend your partner of many years?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Because they were together when he was I guess unlucky
in Hollywood, right, like he was trying and I think
it was only he said Denzel Washington who really pushed him,
Denzil because they were in Broadway together. Yeah, but she
was with him during his whole like Disney and the
Gladi instances where he wasn't even like a main character
but like a love interest. It was like a sharatio
and she was the famous one in their relationship.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Because I met through Ashley Tisdale. Right. Yeah, there's a
lot of drama there that she's not friends with Vanessa anymore,
but she's friends with Austin, who is her child's like godmother.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Very Disney drama, Disney drama crazy. But that viral video
of after Elvis, I think he was at an award
show where there were crowds of people in the street
like yelling his name, and he was standing on stairs waving,
and she saw him and then walked straight past, and
then he watched her. Yeah, yeah, my heart. I love
them as a couple so much. Yeah, because they were
(22:24):
like the stars I grew up with. Yeah, Vanessa Hudgens was.
And then I remember Austin on Zoe one on one
in Montana, and I was like, oh my god, it's
great that he's getting famous now. And then the relationship ended,
and then I was like, kay Gourban, Kay Goerber, seems
like such a funny person, Like she's really close with
Iowa Derberry.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, I'm tim Kaya now. After she was in Bottoms,
she's she's so funny in that movie. She's so funny
doing the promo, and I was like, Okay, yes, you're
the ultimate Nefo baby, Yes you look beautiful, but you're
also a funny girl. So he's got a personality moving on.
We could do an episode just all these couples.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Naomi, Osaka and korde So. I didn't know that Naomi
actually shared a child with Corda, but they were together
for a really long time. They were together for five years,
and then she announced her split only one week ago.
She said that there's no bad blood between them and
that he's an awesome dad to their child. But I
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don't understand why there's like so many breakups all just
happening together.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yes, well I do have an answer to that. I
also just want to throw one in which hurts only
a particular group of people, which is Brandon Roth and
Courtney Ford. If your people ask, how dare you so?
Brandon Roth was into Supereatman movies, but then he's he
was Superman. Yeah, he was Superman. The ones with Kate
bos were and I can't even if I said the names,
and people like, we don't know which Soupman movies many
(23:45):
years ago. Then his career kind of petered out, but
he started doing a lot of TV. Courtney's one of
those actresses when you see her face, you're like, oh,
that girl, she's in everything. She's you know, dexter parenthood.
How I met your mother?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Like she's what I know exactly who she is? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah? Who? Just so the reason that I'm quite invested
in this is that one. They've been together for seventeen,
well twenty one years together seventeen years married and Brandon,
once he had his kind of fall from grace from
being a movie star, became one of the stars. And
one of my favorite TV shows Legends of Tomorrow, which
is one of the DC series.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
And it's such a bad series.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Hey have you watched It's a great series.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I watched it.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Anyway, He's fantastic in it, and he was an arrow
before that, and I love that whole yea yes. And
then Courtney was on Legends of Tomorrow with him because
they'd be married for so long, so she come up
as well, and then I say, everyone's on Legends Tomorrow,
and then they got married on the show, which was
quite cute. So I think fans of like the DC
universe are very upset. And also they released a statement
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and they were like, this feels so stupid to say
when LA's on fire and they were like evacuating their home,
but the news of their divorce filing leaked while there,
like while their hoouse was about to burn down, so
as they were leaving the house, they then had to
sort of put a statement out. And it's interesting becausey're hopeful.
The whole statement is like this is so stupid, like
all of our friends homes on fire, our homes on fire.
(25:04):
We're getting all these calls about our marriage ending. Like
it's just not like And then like, we also know
that you guys probably don't care because of all the
stuff that's happening, So we kind of hate that this
is even being talked about. But yes, that's all the
celebrity breakups that have been announced. And this happens a lot,
you know how like every year, there's a point and
it usually happens over the summer holidays where people start
saying running those articles like love is dead, love is
(25:25):
over the seasons of breakups. And it's not a coincidence
that celebrity breakups get announced, whether it's through like sources,
to publications or statements, that they get announced in groups.
And that's because and a lot of publiciers have gone
on the record about this. They haven't sort of like
named particular couples, but a lot of pr and publicity
people who work for celebrities and who work in that
(25:46):
kind of entertainment industry are often managing multiple people within
the industry, so they might have like a whole bunch
of movie and TV stars on their payrolls, they're working
with them about how to roll out their announcements about
their divorce, particularly if it's two very famous people who
are announcing their separation and you're gonna get publicity from
both of their fan groups, and what the publicers often
(26:07):
do is that they'll batch them together and release them
all one go over Christmas. It doesn't happen as much now,
but Christmas obviously used to be like the summer holidays.
Newsrooms were slower, they didn't have as many people on.
You'd have to wait a while for like print publications
to come out, So sometimes you can kind of soften
the blow. Now, not as much because it just takes
on a whole life online, but if you batch them
all together, it kind of splits the difference between the
(26:30):
coverage and people like, oh, this breakup, I know this one,
all this one, so you're not delving into like did
this person cheap and.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
We're not spending like a week analyzing like similar to
Angelina and Brad Pitt, like the news of their settlement
and how I guess on every other day of the year,
we'd spend like I guess a week dissecting all of
that and understanding that. But like now with everyone else.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
You're just like Lively filing her lawsuits which we get
to it, which we will get to because I think
that's our job just before Christmas Eve, Like, there's a
lot of different factors happening here. But yeah, often you'll
see a lot of celebrity breakups announced in one go,
and it's not a mistake. It's just them trying to
control the cycle and distract us and batch it all together.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Which did you didn't get us?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Thought, Okay, the thing is like a few of these, Like,
we've just done all of those in one go. Potentially
if they had been spread out, we would have done
an episode in one couple, an episode another, So we've
batched them all together.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
They were just taking away our content. Thank you so
much for listening to The Spill today. If you missed it,
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We talked about the biggest moments you would have missed
that you probably haven't seen in your socials. We'll put
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The Spill is produced by Kimberly Bradish with sound production
(27:40):
by Scott Stronik, and we will be back here in
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Speaker 2 (27:44):
Bye bye
From Mom Maya. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop
culture fix. I'm m Vernon and I'm Laura Brodnick. Happy Monday,
Happy Monday to you. We are back. We did come
back a little bit for the Golden Globe in a
two special episodes.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Dramatic fashion as we are non dramatic.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
But our Hot Pod summer series is over. We are
back irl in real time. However, if you haven't listened
to our Hot Pod summer series, just go back in
your feed. We've done a lot and a lot of
content there. Today on the show, we are talking about
all of the celebrity breakups that happened during December and
early jan There were a lot of them, and there
(00:52):
is a reason why.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But first, but first, we wanted to touch on something
that has been very much in the news in the
social media cycle the last couple of days, and that
is the fires that are taking place in la the
devastating fires that have destroyed thousands of home, displaced millions
of people, people of lives. It's a really tragic circumstance
and in saying that, very aware that there's many other
(01:16):
events of this scale happening across the world at all
times and especially now, but just being the fact that
we're an entertainment podcast, we were going to talk more
just about how this is affecting the entertainment industry and
what the flow and effect will be for us as consumers,
because this is happening right in Hollywood. Although if you
saw those pictures of the Hollywood Sign on fire, that
was ai. I was like, guys, give it a rest.
(01:37):
There's real photos going around that are more tragic than that.
But it's happening during Hollywood's peak awards season time and
also peak premiere time, so lots of events canceled. The
cancelation started rolling through early last week when Unstoppable, which
is the movie that Jennifer Lopez made with Ben Affleck No,
that whole drama, Yeah, the premiere for that was canceled.
(01:58):
And in fact, I saw Jennifer Lopez saying today that
she was stepping back from all press commitments and things
to just focus on the fires and that and everything
that's happening around her home.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Because yeah, it's not just Hollywood like where the Hub is,
but every celebrity lives there as well.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Exactly, and all the events are taking place in filming
and everything so the premiere for Wolfman was canceled, as
well as premiere events for Betterman and the Pit TV series.
Also the Academy Awards, so the nominations opened on jan
eighth and was sent to close on January twelfth. That
gives everyone the Academy time to watch all their screeners,
although we know most of them don't watch screeners, but
(02:33):
you know, that's another conversation for we did. Yeah, we
do the work. The nominations to like send your ballot
in were extended by a few days, and the announcement
of the nomination has then just been pushed to nineteen.
I actually wonder if that'll be pushed again. That's the
everything at the time of recording is very up in
the air, which will be interesting to see how just
a flow on effect that has for the Oscars in
(02:55):
general by pushing everything back, because at this stage some
of those like really big fires have still not been
properly contained, and it's hard to sort of say what's
going to happen. So I would sort of say that
a lot of this stuff is going to be moved again.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I would say the announcement that the Oscar nominations would
being pushed back was the thing that made me realize
how deeply serious the fires were. Yeah, which does sound
very complacent as someone who works in media, because obviously
people's lives are being destroyed, and I think it's like
sixteen people who have tragically died, and there's also sixteen
(03:27):
people who have been unaccounted for, and on top of that,
five thousand homes have also been destroyed. But I think
when a massive international announcement like the nominations happens, I
think that's what really makes everyone focus in.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, exactly that and sort of seeing I guess, like
the celebrities very front facing in this particular event, and
I think that's why there's been so attention on it
compared to some other things in the world. And then
the Screen Actors Guild nominations that was meant to be
a big live broadcast that was canceled. They were just
set out. The Critics' Choice Awards have been moved from Jan.
Twelve to Jan twenty six, and then the American Film
(04:01):
Institute Awards luncheon that was moved. The British Academy of
Film and Television, like the big bafter event in Hollywood,
was postponed, so just been this whole role on effect.
A lot of shows have also stopped filming, so like
even Hacks, which is interesting because they were making such
a big deal about the fact that they had to
at the Golden Globes when they won their award, they
got up and talked for having to film very early
(04:22):
the next morning. So no one gives Jean Smart any alcohol.
But yeah, a number of shows from like The New Suits, Freeboot,
and Ted TV show, like all of these play things.
So many that's just a few. I mean, Gray's Anatomy,
Jimmy Kimmellive have all been affected. So it's because the
fires are so close to the lots where they shoot
all of these things, they've all been postponed, which, just
(04:42):
like the writers strike, depends how long the post boneman
is effects. So yeah, a lot of different like the
film and TV industry to an extent, like coming to
a stand still for the moment during the biggest awards
season of the year for them, and then alongside that,
we're seeing so many stories of celebrities losing their homes.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah. I saw an interview with Jennifer Ghana, who is
known for doing a lot of like community and charitable
work have heard during Christmas and Thankgiving with and Affleck.
But I think what hit in this interview was that
celebrities are experiencing lost to a whole new level. She said,
I did lose a friend who did not get out
in time. My heart bleeds for my friends, as well
(05:22):
as the guilt that she faced for being able to
walk through a home and like seeing everyone around her
just have like their lives completely destroyed. I think those
interviews are really important because those interviews, although there are
real people out there who are losing their homes and
losing their lives, it's those interviews that will get picked
up for the rest of the world to be able
to see the devastation from these fives.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, exactly. It's been interesting to see the amount of
backlash there's been for celebrities talking about losing their homes.
And obviously there's a huge difference between millionaire celebrity losing
their home to you know, an average.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Work and class of difference.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And that's the thing two of people saying like, oh,
it's just like that whole area is reach. It's like
there's a few pockets that are like the mansions and rich,
but a lot of the other places that have been
decimated destroy are just regular families and people, And so
I have actually haven't seen a celebrities be super tone
deaf and be complaining about their loss over other peoples.
A lot of people have been celebrities like a Paris
(06:19):
Hilton who have commented and those kind of people have
been saying like, yeah, I lost my home. But I
understand that this is a you know, a widespread situation
and you know, even the Kardashians have been fighting with
the mayor of La and it's a whole different, it's
a whole Whitney Cummings, the TV producer and comedian, has
been out in her car trying to like personally track
down arsenists that she heard were starting, like because some
(06:41):
of the fires have been started by people by arsonists
and have like destroyed home. So she's like live streaming
from her car chasing them down. I'm like, oh, I
think that's probably a bit wouldn't say that was the state.
And also a weird anti hero that has come out
of this whole situation, Spencer Pratt from the Hills. Have
you seen this all over?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
TikTok? That is all my TikTok feed, he is here
been Heidi.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yes, he and Heidie. It's so weird that you don't
know who they are to because.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You know them now.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
No, no, to elder millennials, this is like, this is
top tier celebrity information because they were the infamous Villains
on the Hills for the Whole Seas and the reality
TV show and made a lot of money then, but
like infamously haven't like they're saying they have no money.
They still haven't. Mansion that burned down, lost their insurance.
I don't I know so much by their life because
he has just been like shamelessly updating their TikTok and
(07:28):
everything and trying to get like people to support them.
But then Heidie's music has, like because she had this
like she had a bit of a pop star crew
but not a very big one, has like gone like
smashing up the charts because people are streaming her music
to support them financially. But you also almost like watched
in real time is there because he's so big on
TikTok and instrument snapchat all the time. Every day he
still does that old school thing of like just you know,
(07:50):
updating people every ten seconds of his day of what
he's doing, and so you almost watch it happen. He's like, Oh,
there's a fire. Oh, we can kind of see it.
Oh there's a bit of smoke. Oh I think it's fine.
Oh shit, we have to leave. What have we got
in the car? Oh I'm watching my house burn down
in real time. This is my house that's gone, Like
you watched it happen. And so it's really interesting how
because he's been so open about it and has been providing
people with like this weird entertainment and also being very
(08:13):
vulnerable that he's become the sort of online face.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Of this, which is very yeah, like for everyone who
wants to track, I guess what's happening in real time.
It's all over his socials. And he's also been quite
vocal with how the media is treating their own experience,
like yahnitie, Like he was saying, we used to be
on like every like broke celebrity list, Like people would
call us broke. And yet when our house gets destroyed,
(08:37):
when now on like rich Mansions, I'd get that have
been destroyed, yeah, in the fires, And I think that's
a fair call.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It is definitely a fair call. Like when he was saying, like,
you know, their friends have started to go fund me,
which obviously have a lot of thoughts around different celebrities
sharing gofund me. It was interesting that Mandy Moore was
getting really slammed for sharing her own her brother in
law's go fund me, and people were like, what about
everyone else who doesn't have rich celebrity friends, and she
was like, We're all trying to do the best we can.
No one's forcing you to do everything. Kindly f off
(09:04):
and then Spencer's jumping in and defending Mandy Moore and
saying she flew me on a plane, wants to New
York to hang out with me. So I'm going to
currently this is getting really too much. But I mean,
the thing about Spencer and Heidi two is like, yes,
they did lose everything, but at the same time they
are staying I know everything's relative in different ways, but
that's obviously horrendous. And when she was crying I just
want to go home, I was like, oh god, I
really feel that, like you would just want to go home.
(09:25):
But at the same time they're staying in a Santa
Barbara house that their family are, Yeah, so they have
somewhere to go at least. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's all relative, but I think it's good that the
celebrities are calling out that they need help, like La
needs help. Yeah, but don't just stop at the celebrity stories,
like there are real people out there, like the firefighters
were working so hard, like they have stories as well,
So don't just stop on the surface.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
One hundred.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So it has been confirmed. Kind of that, Hugh Jackman,
It has been confirmed, great area. Okay, I mean I
platonically hold hands with my friends, but sure whatever, Hugh
Jackman and Southern Fosters seem to be definitely dating. So
to take you back a little, I would love.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
For you and I next time we go out somewhere
to walk around holding hands and gazing into each other's
eyes like that, and just see what people say.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
We do hang out every night, so that's true.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It doesn't say anything our next step up in our relationship.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
To take your mind back. So, Hugh Jackman and Broadway
star Sudden Foster, they were doing a musical together, The
Music Man. They were together from as in like professionally
together from December twenty twenty one to when it ended
in January twenty twenty three. There were some rumors that
there was an affair happening between the two of them,
and then in September twenty twenty three, Hugh Jackman announced
(10:43):
his separation from his wife, Debuly Furnace after twenty seven
years of being together. And then in October twenty twenty four,
Sudden Foster filed her divorce with her husband, Ted Griffin.
So everyone was kind of like, oh, they're definitely dating
now that they're both separated, But it was only recently
when they were both out on a date in California
(11:03):
that they were seen holding hands and smiling, smiling to
the cameras that the paparazzi cameras that were taking fred
A rash with them, and they looked very good.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
They looked very good, which is a key to whether
they were staged or not.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Do you think it's too.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Soon, No, I mean these rumors have been out for Also.
The thing about this is that like everyone's jumping to
a lot of assumptions, but we have no idea of
the actual timeline. We know they were like in the
music Man and that was a huge thing, and that
we're in rehearsals for a long time. They've also known
each other for twenty years, so it's like they just
met on The Music Man. You look really shocked by that.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
They've known each other for twenty now.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
They're both in the broadway circuit like Sutton Foster was.
You know, she was a star of Younger and also
of the TV show bun Heads, which is great. But
more than that, she is known as a broadway star.
That's why I nearly lost my mind when I met
her once on a rooftop in New York and we
had a drink at a party. It's no big deal
because she is like one of the most famous Broadway
stars in the world, and that's how they knew each other.
But the thing is, we don't know the timeline of exactly,
(11:59):
like how long they were separated from their partners before
this all happened. We don't know when they're romance kicked off,
but it's been like over a year since they first
went into rehearsals for The Music Man, and so if
it's been since then, they've been secretly together for over
a year. Yeah, before having their first public moment, there
were signs leading up to it that it was going
to happen, most notably that she's performing in a new musical,
(12:21):
and he was photographed in the audience like applauding, taking photos.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
He's been doing a Travis Kelsey. He's been at every
single one of her problem. Yeah, he was there every
night like that was a huge deal. So they were
sort of laying the groundwork and then these photos came out.
And I don't think every sort of sighting of celebrities
is staged, per se. I think a lot of the
time they just say like, we're gonna step out. We
know we're gonna get photographed, and that's fine. This felt
a little different because they're in La so it's not
(12:47):
a huge surprise that there'd be paparazzi around, but they
were a bit far from all the traditional hot spots
around there where you know how we saw those photos
of March Short and Meryl Street the other well.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
They saw that they were like, you know what, me too, Yeah,
we're going to do that. But that wasn't a real
celebrity hot spot where like in front of the restaurant
they were at, like paparazzi line up there from early
in the afternoon to catch slops coming in and out.
So if you go there, you kind of know the
photos are going to get.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
If you want to be photographed by a paparazzi, go there.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, Merritt was like, I know where to go, don't
worry about it. But this time they were like a
bit further away from like the big bustling restaurants. They
were in like a very quiet area. And the photos
are so beautifully photographed in stage. It looks like they
look so relaxed. They look I mean, Sutton Foster, you
look Topp Tier, the long coat and the heels smiling together,
(13:36):
they're walking slowly. You can so tell with celebrity photos
if they're photographed at quite a bad angle, they look shocked,
like even celebrities can photograph very badly if they're surprised.
Whereas these guys, you know, they looked very stage. They
look very comfortable, and especially like Sutton's not a very
big paparazzi well neither few but her, especially like she's
on a big paparazzi person. It's hard to know that
(13:58):
if they were getting photos taken that close up, because
they very they're not long lands, they're very close up,
that she would look that calm and relaxed. And the
other thing is that the photos were exclusively released by People,
and Foster and Hugh Jackman both have especially Sutain, have
like a long history of releasing like exclusives or like
private details about their lives with People magazine because there's
(14:21):
that kind of like behind the scenes level of trust
they have with a lot of celebrities. So if it
was TMZ, i'd say not staged beautiful photos with People magazine. Yeah,
just slightly stick.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Great lighting, great lighting, dark.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Well, they're probably like they wanted to control the narrative
a bit, like they knew they were going to start.
You know, they've been hidden away, which goes to show
that like if you don't want to be seen, you
don't have to be seen. They've been hidden away for
so long. They've made the decision now they're going to
start going to each other's events. So they wanted to
control the first photos that came out, because what if
you got one of them like kind of scurrying out
of the back of it, you know, Broadway after party.
(14:54):
They could look flussed, they could look you know, they
could look angry, Like it just takes one photo for
the narrative to be set in a very negative way.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And I think when they're like scurrying happens, Yeah, and
trying to hide. I think that's what also keeps fueling
the cheating rumors.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yes, yeah, that's exactly right. Like if they I had
looked really guilty and sneaky, it would have for that relationship.
But when these photos came out, like everyone, like a
few people were commenting angry things online, but most people
like just what we just said. We've been taken in
by it.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
They look beautiful, they look so happy.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It's a very clever way to launch their relationship.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, I feel like as an Australian, Yeah, no one
else in the world is thinking this. The minute I
saw those photos, yes, I thought they were gorgeous, but
all I could think about was Deborah lee Finess.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yes, and that's the hard thing about this is that
my heart like low Ki Rogan, I know. But that's
the thing is that this is not something I've been
talking to my friends about. We've been assigning this narrative
to her, that she's the jilted other woman, that she
was cheated on, that she's the victim, and also maybe
she is, like her friend did put out that, you know,
remember that statement. Her friend commented and was like this
(15:59):
is all Yeah, this has all happened without deb knowing,
and she's upset. Remember that happened. And then Deborah like
accidentally or maybe didn't realize is public like to comment
supporting her. So there've been a few little telltales. Sign
have been a few sources saying, like, you know, a
source close to Deborah says that she's shocked and heartbroken.
But the thing is, we don't know for sure, Like
we don't know if they were separated for a really
(16:19):
long time. We don't know if she was the one
who was like I'm out of here, you know what
I mean, Like we've just assigned this narrative because you've
got Hugh out either partying with Ryan Reynolds and Taylor
Swift or now walking around with like this beautiful, successful woman.
Everyone's saying that he's kind of the winner and she's
the poor, broken, jilted woman because we don't know that
is true.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But like the stuff that he's doing, like especially with
like Wilverine Deadpool, like out with all of these like
a less celebrities, also younger celebrities. Yeah, it feels like
the metaphorical chain has broken and he's allowed to do
like quote unquote allowed to do all of these times. Yeah,
that's well, she's at home, stuck in.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Australia exactly, and that's me because she's not as public
a person as him, and it's be very strange for her.
I mean, maybe she'll do a tell all interview, but
I'd say probably not, and a lot about a memoir
maybe potentially. Or she was also very active in a
lot of charity, so if she's doing like a big
cover story for a ch already, she might have a
few well placed quotes in there. But I don't think
she's the type of person to do like a bit
(17:15):
of a tell all and talk about her heartbreaks. And
we'll never really know. But I just think it was
interesting how quickly we jumped to like assigning her as
like the poor victim. She might be partying it up
somewhere being like true, but that man loose he was
always singing around the house, was so annoying, so happy
to be free of him. So the other news story
or set of news stories, I'm using news very loosely.
(17:35):
There news in our world that have been bubbling away
over the last couple of weeks that we need to
discuss is the number of celebrity breakups that's been so many,
so many so had.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
To happen when we were busying partying at the beach.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, because the whole party at the beach, I don't
know you. I was like in the suburbs of Brisbane
with my nephews jumping all over me.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But yeah, I was scolding at everyone's cabanas, and then
I got in trouble for writing about how much I
hate cabaness.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, you've got some enemies, a lot of enemies anyway.
So what we're trying to say is that our holiday
was personally affected. But a number of celebrity breakups that happened.
I'll just go down the list we have because there's
a lot of big ones. Again, this one shocked me.
Jessica Albert and Cash Warren.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah massive that they've been together for ever.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
They've been together for sixteen years. And also they have
two daughters and a son. All their names start with H,
which I think is cute. And one of her daughters
is named Haven because she was born in like her sack.
Why do I know that?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Oh did she birth the sack? That's quite rare. That's
what she's here from working at Mama, and I know
that's a very rare.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
So she came into the world and her haven, so
they named her haven. I hate having a photographic memory
sometimes because I'll never that fact is going to burg
into my brain.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Don't look up what that looks like.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's no, I don't want to see it anyway. Why
this is interesting is that Jessica Alba when she became
very famous at like I think she was seventeen, and
then started filming a lot of big shows at eighteen.
I remember because she's on Dark Angel, which was an
incredible sci fi show that I was obsessed with.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
She in Fantastic four, well, yo, that came.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
That came later, But she was very infamously engaged to
her Dark Angel coast Michael Weatherley, who went on Me
and NCIS and talked about the fact that she just
came into Hollywood and met this older man who was
her love interest. He was like, We're getting married, and
she was like okay, didn't really know what to do.
And then when their relationship broke up, and then she
had a horrible time in Hollywood on Fantastic four, where
they told her not to cry because she would look
(19:25):
too ugly and they would see Gi in the tears. Later,
she stepped away from Hollywood from a long time, went
and built her billion dollar lifestyle empire and married Cash
and he was even though he's like a very you know, successful,
good looking man because he's not an actor, was kind
of seen as her stepping away from Hollywood and having
this very anti famous marriage, even though they've been like
(19:45):
very public with their love story over the years, but
in the last couple of months or even the last
few years, she's talked about like going through the roommate
stage with him and how hard it is when you
just become like co parents and like almost like business
partners and the marriage side of your like the romantic
side of your relationship goes away. And so when they
announced their split, So when news came out that there
(20:07):
split had happened, which they haven't said anything, I think
is important to note, but I feel like.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Something was brewing though, because she did that Netflix Movieger Warning,
and I felt like it was the first time in
ages that we've seen her not only in a big movie,
but like one of those blockbuster actioning one.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, exactly, She's stepping back into acting now, which I
love because, as they said, big fan. So they haven't
confirmed it, but it's been confirmed by a number of outlets,
and she's quite active on Instagram in particular, and so
I feel like if it wasn't true, she would have
said something by now. But it's been a while. So
we had then, and then we had Austin Butler and Kayagerber.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I didn't realize they were together for like three years. Yeah,
it felt like two seconds.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It's so weird. They're ten years apart, which I guess
in Hollywood is just normal. But I he was with
Vanessa Hudgens for a really long time, remember that. And
there are those viral pictures of Vanessa meeting Kaya, and
like Vanessa looks like this fully formed woman who's on
the red carp and period. Yeah, it's like leaning up
to shake her hand as child, and it's just like
when you kind of know what's happening. But I think he.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Also had like got a huge brunt for like how
Vanessa was the one who pushed him to do Elvis. Yeah,
and he never like thanked her congratulated her publicly. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well, she told the story of how I was singing
on the car and she said to him when she
heard his voice, like you should play Elvis, not knowing
the voice. Drama she was going to unleash on the world.
And then he did an interview and said, oh, a
friend of mine, yeah, suggested I play Elvis, And the
fans just tore that man down, saying, how dare you
call her a friend your partner of many years?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Because they were together when he was I guess unlucky
in Hollywood, right, like he was trying and I think
it was only he said Denzel Washington who really pushed him,
Denzil because they were in Broadway together. Yeah, but she
was with him during his whole like Disney and the
Gladi instances where he wasn't even like a main character
but like a love interest. It was like a sharatio
and she was the famous one in their relationship.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Because I met through Ashley Tisdale. Right. Yeah, there's a
lot of drama there that she's not friends with Vanessa anymore,
but she's friends with Austin, who is her child's like godmother.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Very Disney drama, Disney drama crazy. But that viral video
of after Elvis, I think he was at an award
show where there were crowds of people in the street
like yelling his name, and he was standing on stairs waving,
and she saw him and then walked straight past, and
then he watched her. Yeah, yeah, my heart. I love
them as a couple so much. Yeah, because they were
(22:24):
like the stars I grew up with. Yeah, Vanessa Hudgens was.
And then I remember Austin on Zoe one on one
in Montana, and I was like, oh my god, it's
great that he's getting famous now. And then the relationship ended,
and then I was like, kay Gourban, Kay Goerber, seems
like such a funny person, Like she's really close with
Iowa Derberry.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, I'm tim Kaya now. After she was in Bottoms,
she's she's so funny in that movie. She's so funny
doing the promo, and I was like, Okay, yes, you're
the ultimate Nefo baby, Yes you look beautiful, but you're
also a funny girl. So he's got a personality moving on.
We could do an episode just all these couples.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Naomi, Osaka and korde So. I didn't know that Naomi
actually shared a child with Corda, but they were together
for a really long time. They were together for five years,
and then she announced her split only one week ago.
She said that there's no bad blood between them and
that he's an awesome dad to their child. But I
(23:18):
don't understand why there's like so many breakups all just
happening together.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yes, well I do have an answer to that. I
also just want to throw one in which hurts only
a particular group of people, which is Brandon Roth and
Courtney Ford. If your people ask, how dare you so?
Brandon Roth was into Supereatman movies, but then he's he
was Superman. Yeah, he was Superman. The ones with Kate
bos were and I can't even if I said the names,
and people like, we don't know which Soupman movies many
(23:45):
years ago. Then his career kind of petered out, but
he started doing a lot of TV. Courtney's one of
those actresses when you see her face, you're like, oh,
that girl, she's in everything. She's you know, dexter parenthood.
How I met your mother?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Like she's what I know exactly who she is? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah? Who? Just so the reason that I'm quite invested
in this is that one. They've been together for seventeen,
well twenty one years together seventeen years married and Brandon,
once he had his kind of fall from grace from
being a movie star, became one of the stars. And
one of my favorite TV shows Legends of Tomorrow, which
is one of the DC series.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
And it's such a bad series.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Hey have you watched It's a great series.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I watched it.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Anyway, He's fantastic in it, and he was an arrow
before that, and I love that whole yea yes. And
then Courtney was on Legends of Tomorrow with him because
they'd be married for so long, so she come up
as well, and then I say, everyone's on Legends Tomorrow,
and then they got married on the show, which was
quite cute. So I think fans of like the DC
universe are very upset. And also they released a statement
(24:42):
and they were like, this feels so stupid to say
when LA's on fire and they were like evacuating their home,
but the news of their divorce filing leaked while there,
like while their hoouse was about to burn down, so
as they were leaving the house, they then had to
sort of put a statement out. And it's interesting becausey're hopeful.
The whole statement is like this is so stupid, like
all of our friends homes on fire, our homes on fire.
(25:04):
We're getting all these calls about our marriage ending. Like
it's just not like And then like, we also know
that you guys probably don't care because of all the
stuff that's happening, So we kind of hate that this
is even being talked about. But yes, that's all the
celebrity breakups that have been announced. And this happens a lot,
you know how like every year, there's a point and
it usually happens over the summer holidays where people start
saying running those articles like love is dead, love is
(25:25):
over the seasons of breakups. And it's not a coincidence
that celebrity breakups get announced, whether it's through like sources,
to publications or statements, that they get announced in groups.
And that's because and a lot of publiciers have gone
on the record about this. They haven't sort of like
named particular couples, but a lot of pr and publicity
people who work for celebrities and who work in that
(25:46):
kind of entertainment industry are often managing multiple people within
the industry, so they might have like a whole bunch
of movie and TV stars on their payrolls, they're working
with them about how to roll out their announcements about
their divorce, particularly if it's two very famous people who
are announcing their separation and you're gonna get publicity from
both of their fan groups, and what the publicers often
(26:07):
do is that they'll batch them together and release them
all one go over Christmas. It doesn't happen as much now,
but Christmas obviously used to be like the summer holidays.
Newsrooms were slower, they didn't have as many people on.
You'd have to wait a while for like print publications
to come out, So sometimes you can kind of soften
the blow. Now, not as much because it just takes
on a whole life online, but if you batch them
all together, it kind of splits the difference between the
(26:30):
coverage and people like, oh, this breakup, I know this one,
all this one, so you're not delving into like did
this person cheap and.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
We're not spending like a week analyzing like similar to
Angelina and Brad Pitt, like the news of their settlement
and how I guess on every other day of the year,
we'd spend like I guess a week dissecting all of
that and understanding that. But like now with everyone else.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
You're just like Lively filing her lawsuits which we get
to it, which we will get to because I think
that's our job just before Christmas Eve, Like, there's a
lot of different factors happening here. But yeah, often you'll
see a lot of celebrity breakups announced in one go,
and it's not a mistake. It's just them trying to
control the cycle and distract us and batch it all together.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Which did you didn't get us?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Thought, Okay, the thing is like a few of these, Like,
we've just done all of those in one go. Potentially
if they had been spread out, we would have done
an episode in one couple, an episode another, So we've
batched them all together.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
They were just taking away our content. Thank you so
much for listening to The Spill today. If you missed it,
we actually did two big Golden Globe episodes that were live.
We talked about the biggest moments you would have missed
that you probably haven't seen in your socials. We'll put
a link to those episodes in our show notes, or
you can just scroll back and have a listen yourself.
The Spill is produced by Kimberly Bradish with sound production
(27:40):
by Scott Stronik, and we will be back here in
your podcast feed at three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Bye bye
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