On the show today, Australian TV has delivered us an unexpected new scandal. The host of Australian Survivor Jonathan LaPaglia has released an emotional statement about being let go from the show, and we think we know what really went down behind the scenes.
Plus, Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez’s 5 million dollar wedding has taken place, but we’re more interested in what their celebrity guests got up to while living it up in Venice.
From Kim Kardashian’s headline-making dress (and the lie it was concealing) to those photos of Orlando Bloom and Sydney Sweeney and all the drama that followed, we’ll take you through exactly what happened. And quite a few high-profile celebrities have called out the famous guests for attending the wedding, leading to even more scandal.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Brodneck and I'm Casene Lookitch and coming up on the
show today. I know you've heard a lot about this
big billionaire Bezos wedding and all the celebs being in
(00:37):
Vennes but there is so much interesting little stories that
came off the back of this. So we're not going
to get into what the billionaires did at their wedding.
We're going to get into what happened in the streets
of Venice with all the celebs there, because it kind
of had more like a little bit more drama, a
bit more intrigue than some of the big red carpets
we've seen recently.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
There are some juicy, juicy pap shots.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, so we no, we don't condone pap shots. We
will talk about them when needed. So we're going to
get into that today. But first a bit of Australian
TV drama. So the host of Australian Survivor, Jonathan Lapalia,
put out a pretty emotional statement, saying that after ten years,
he'd been let go from the Channel ten series Australian Survivor.
So posting on his Instagram page, he said Australian Survivor
(01:21):
has seen some of the most epic blind sides over
the last ten years, but this one might be the
craziest of them all because it happened to me, like,
I know, he's upset. That's good storytelling. Right after that,
I'm not even a Survivor fan. He's got me in,
He said. I received a call from the network thanking
me for all my hard work and dedication to the show.
But for the next season they are going in a
(01:42):
different direction.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I hate that phrase.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, well, I mean exactly, that's what you say to
kind of smooth it over when you're letting someone go.
And then he said this is where it gets juicy.
He said ratings had dipped a bit recently and they
wanted to do something drastic to shake things up. So
for the first time ever, this is not a tribe swap,
but a host swap. Yes, you read that right. He
went on to talk about how he wished it wasn't happening.
He said he has no idol in his back pocket.
(02:06):
That's a Survivor joke about not being able to change
their decision. Went on to say how much he loved
working on the show with a talented crew and how
it's one of the greatest achievements of his life, and
then went on to say, don't pull the hankies out
just yet, because they've already pre filmed the next season
of Survivor, so he's hosting that, but after that that'll.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Be his last season.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Here at the moment, me are officers. We have quite
a few big Survivor fans. Now, you and I are
both not massive fans. I can understand the impact it's
had on like the culture, but we've got some hardcore
Survivor fans in this office, so we thought that we
would share their reactions to losing Jonathan Lapalia as the
(02:45):
host of Australian Survivor.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I am so shook. I don't think I've ever been
this shook over like a reality TV news story. Just
to put into like context, like Jonathan Lapaalia is the
most beloved Survivor host.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Potentially in the whole world.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Like I know Jeff Propes has a lot of fans,
but I would say that people are just as passionate
about Donethi la Palia. So he's a titan of reality TV,
and it makes everything much more juicier that it seems
like he did not leave on his own accord. It
sounds like something's happened with ten and his contract has
(03:26):
been ended. I don't know what the glosses, but it
is wild and we're all screaming, crying, throwing up.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
My entire friendship group is in mourning, like we are
not handling this news. Our group chat about Survivor is
called JLP's Arms. That's how much this man matters to us.
So it definitely was a big shock to see that
he was acts like. It's widely known that he is
the best Survivor host behind Jeff Probes, the host of
the original US version. So very shocking news, but interesting
(03:57):
to see why the decision was made.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I'm a fairly casual watcher of Survivor these days, but
I have to say I'm quite surprised by JLP being oustairged.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You know, he's such a fantastic host. He does an
amazing job.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
He's probably, like, you know, the most iconic Survivor hosting
the world in my opinion after Jeff and like he
does such a good job of like matching that energy
and bringing so much to the table. Like I love him,
and I think he's going to be a bit sad
to watch Survivor without him. I think, like, at the
same time, if the rumors are true and you know,
David Golden God does take his place, I think he'll
(04:29):
bring something really interesting to the table, but it will
definitely be like a bit of a different dynamic. He's
one of the best players you know in the Australian game, arguably,
and so it might be hard for him to kind
of just sit on the sidelines and be a bit
more impartial the way that you know JLP does. But
I'm excited to see what happens. But I'm very, very
devastated for JLP.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That is not nice. It's obviously devastating for the Survivor community.
My colleagues were in mourning and upset and like nearly
having to take personal days. So many people were messaging
me being like, oh my god, I can't wait till
you guys talk about this on the spill. This is
the biggest news. Like all my social feeds were filling
up with it like it has hit people hard.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I know, And it's an interesting move. You know, Australian Survivor.
It's not one of like the biggest rad things carriers,
but it has been a really consistently good show on
Network ten, So it's an interesting move. It's like, why
try and fix something if it's not broken, Like he
obviously has a lot of fans, he obviously was not
(05:25):
expecting it. I'm wondering if it's a budget thing, like
his contract was up. Perhaps he was too expensive and
they're trying to get someone who's a little bit cheaper
because I'd say after the amount of years that he's
done with Survivor, he's on a pretty good wikend. But
perhaps they're just trying to look for a more cost
effective option.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, I mean, obviously all like the rumors and comments
are swirling, Like if you go into all the comment threads,
a lot of past cast members on The Survivor are
virtually very upset about it, but also saying that it
could be to do with cost cutting or they're bringing
in maybe more of a stunt host, like a past
contestant with a really big following to kind of shake
things up. But I don't know, it's interesting. I just
think Network ten is just having a big shake up
(06:07):
across all their shows at the moment. I mean, after
like getting the project and then bringing that new news
show and wanting to shake this up. I feel like
they just like they're just sitting around a board room
table trying to like just see all the different pieces
they can move around, like get ratings up, save money.
I mean that's what we're seeing in every network at
the time.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I mean, look, I would say, my gut tells me
it's probably a cost cutting reason. I would say Jonathan
Napolio is just too expensive for them.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah. And I guess the interesting thing is a lot
of celebrities because they have this kind of very media
trained persona online would have just put up a statement
saying like I loved my time and you can't wait
to see where they go next, and I'm sad to leave,
but I wish everyone the best. But because Jonathan Lapalia
is so outspoken, just kind of everyone I know who's
interviewed him just said like he just is so direct.
(06:54):
He doesn't mince his words, he doesn't follow what the
PR team tell him to say. He just says what
he wants. So it'll be interesting as this next season
of Survivor airs and they announce the new host to
kind of see what he'll say, because he'll be very unfiltered.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Well, and that's I think probably the key part to
this is his response was it wasn't a joint press
release with Challenging, It was him having a bit of
a dig at than one.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Also, I love that he put in all of those
little puns, and like Jakes, he kind of tied it
back to Survivor. You can tell he's been living and
breathing this for so absolutely. I kind of respect him
a lot for just saying how he felt. Oh I
do too, and being like, you know what, this came
out of left field. This is not what I wanted, but.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
There is what's happened. Yeah, well, stay in tuned for
the new host announcement. I wonder for how they feel
if they already know who they are, seeing that post
go up and knowing that their announcement will be have
a lot of drama around it.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Whoever it is is going to have some big shoes
to fill.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
So over the weekend, if you have any sort of
online social media account, your feeds would have been absolutely flooded.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
No, I know you could not look anywhere without seeing
the news of Jeff Baboss and Lauren Sanchez's waiting.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yes, it was absolutely everywhere. You couldn't escape it. So
the Amazon billionaire and the former journalists, right, so you know,
quote for us. Yet I'm holding out that I'm going
to get a billionaire wedding in a few years and
that's just going to sort my life out. Had their
fifty million dollar wedding is the estimated amount in Venice
in Italy. So I know that you guys last week
covered a lot of like who they are and the
(08:26):
lead up to it and all that sort of stuff.
But what we need to talk about is all the
celebrity guests that descended on the city of Venice, and
apparently they all gave donations to the city to kind
of smooth it over. But the locals were not happy
about the circus obviously, like the infrastructure in Venice and
also the amount of over tourism. At the moment, it's
already a bit of a dicey area. People were even
(08:46):
putting up signs and like dummies dressed as Jeff Bezos
through the streets like they wanted the celebs gone, but
they would not be deterred. So we had a whole
bunch of celebrities. And because you have to get on
and off the boats to travel everywhere, which I think
they all liked. Because they all had their outfits and
everything ready for the pap shots. There was no way
for anyone to really slip out of hotels into waiting
cars or anything like that. It was all very public.
(09:09):
So is there a celebrities and you wanted to start with?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Okay, there's a few that I really really want to
talk about. My favorite was Leonardo DiCaprio wearing a baseball
cap with his tucks. Yeah, he is very well known
for wearing baseball caps everywhere to hide from the paps.
But it makes me laugh because he's wearing a full tux,
like very black tie. But then the hat is like
(09:33):
a black tie hat, yeah, which I kind of appreciate.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I think he has them custom me. You right, he
wears them to everything. My biggest memory of his fiftieth
birthday party that was so studded is him like slinking
inside with his head down with a cap pulled so
far down over his face. You only see his little
chin poking out, and I was like, Leo, we know
it's you. The cap actually makes it worse.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's kind of his thing now. I have seen him
at nightclubs and stuff before, and he's always wearing a
baseball cap always, and I think it must be like
a security blanket for him.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I think it's for so long and he's you got
to think he's still one of those like actors. For
someone who's like, I'm here for the work, not the fame,
I'm like, so you spend all your time hanging out
with billionaires at fancy parties, at nightclubs, on yodels. Yeah,
with models, so don't say that you were just here
for the art.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
He was there with his girlfriend, Vittoria Serretti, and she's
a slightly more age appropriate a twenty seven than he's
normally under twenty five, so I guess he has started
to up his age limit, which is kind of nice
to see. I guess.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I mean, that's so big of him to stay with
her past twenty five. I think he did hate all
the commentary and the jokes and the graphs that people
were making about dumping his girlfriends after twenty five so
maybe that's worked out in Vittoria's favor. She was also
getting a lot of attention because she posted before and
after photos of this beautiful gown that she was wearing,
and she'd had a wardrobe malfunction sometime during the night
(10:58):
and it had ripped, and you think getting in and
out of those boats to go down the canals and surprise,
more celebrities didn't have their dresses ripped or torn or something.
But the other thing is that that dress was previous
worn by Giselle Bunchin, who was with Leonardo DiCaprio for many,
many years. To the met gala right there, you go,
oh my god, people are just like dots.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I can't believe you wouldn't say it, like you know,
people on the internet, they're going to pick out every
single detail. Her stylist needs to have done better, beautiful.
That was a gorgeous tra It.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Was such a gorgeous trip. I would have to be honest,
if that was the dress that I looked at the
best in when all eyes of the world were going
to be on me at this big wedding, I would
have just worn it and not worry about the Giselle thing.
But also she's only twenty seven, Like.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
She doesn't even know who to sell bunchen is.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Can you imagine I'm sure she well, I'm sure she does.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Just knowing Selle's vintage.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, I mean she wore it so many years ago
at the met gala. I'm sure that that didn't even
kind of factor into her mind. And why would you
think that people would connect those dots? But that's what
people do with these kind of solid moments.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, what was your favorite? One of your favorite?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Okay, there's a bit of scandal light going on. There
wasn't as much scandal as we thought obviously inside the party,
but Orlando Bloom and Sydney Sweeney that the moment, I guess.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, I've had a crush on Orlando Blume since legless
elf really so, I had an Orlando Blue mural like
on my wall that I used to go to, Like
what's the shop called we used to buy seatings.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I don't know where you used to go, like a
sanity or something. I used to go on, Like I
don't know where you're getting your weird legalist fans.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Flick through in any Orlando Bloom poaster, I would buy it.
So I had a really big legalist one. I had
a white one. I had one of him in Pirates Caribbean,
Like I.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Was, he's hotter in Pirates.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I was like Orlando bloom Stand.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
This is how you can really tell what kind of
person someone is. It's like whether you grew up as
a legalist girl or an Aragon girl. Aragon the elf
he looked like, I mean, I'm sure he was lovely.
He was very brave, but like, I'm not a Aragon
is the hot rugged one.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Oh my god, Like we're going to have a lot
of the rings off here because apparently they're elves. Aragon
only looks called dirty. Yeah, it's hot all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And he's a bit too Etherol for me.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He can float away, he can walk on top of
the snow.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That's not what I'm looking for a lover.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I have to say, No, he's and he's like really sexy.
You that one where he slides off that.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It's quite hot, But I don't know, he's just he's
a bit too etheroal and magical for me. He sounds
like someone want to hang out and like skip through
the woods with.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You would rather not have like Hugo Weaving and legaliss.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
No Raicon's the hot one with the sword and the
fed and druggedness. I mean, I'm sorry, this is a
lot of the Rings podcast celerities.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I don't know what's happened to Sorry, back to actually
and yes, so he was seen walking the streets of
Venice with Sydney Sweeney and Tom Hardy.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yes, so that's the thing that pap pictures don't show you.
So there were all these rumors that Katie Perry and
Orlando Room had ended their ten year nearly engagement, and
people were saying it was to do with the space
flight and her dancing on stage and that he got
the ick. And I'm like, guys, they've been together for
nearly a decade. I'm sure it was more than that.
Maybe that one of their fights escalated over the space trips,
(14:12):
the paddle, the photo. Oh yeah, there's so much law
with this couple. That's I just hope the rumors aren't true,
no offense to you, and I.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Think they are. He said that like it's a new beginning.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, he did say that. Well, they haven't publicly, at
least at the time of recording, either of them haven't
come out and confirmed the split. But it's been confirmed
by a lot of reputable sources, so we think it
has happened. But then he was pitching in Australia, so
people thought, are they back on? But she's also touring
here and apparently their young daughter, Daisy Dove Bloom, is
here in Australia, so it makes sense that he would
fly over and maybe visit them. But then he jetted
(14:45):
off to the wedding solo, even though he's big environmentalists,
but apparently ninety four private jets landed. Yeah, so in Venice.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
There was a lot of commentary about that, and also
with Leonardo DiCaprio.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Everyone's an environmental Let's.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Just ignore that for a second and talk about have
you seen the Pat photos. I know that we can't
really show the Pat photos.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
On here, but we'll describe them to you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
He's okay, he's wearing the shortest shots I've ever seen
in my life, and he's got these beautiful quads they're
bulging out of his shorts. Okay, and he looks so hot.
And then Sydney Sweeney's wearing this beautiful floral gown and
she's got the best boobs in the business. Comes quite
frankly if I have to say anyone whose boobs are better,
(15:26):
there are no boobs better than See she's got great boobs. Anyway,
She's throwing this beautiful, flowy, very summary Italian riviera kind
of dress, and they're walking together. But if you look
at the shop, some people are kind of speculating them together.
But then in a wide shot, Tom Brady's there as well,
and there's like another person, So maybe they are just
(15:46):
met up at the wedding and we're like, we're gonna
go sightseeing together.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
That's the thing with these shots is like, if you
look at the close up shots, it's like when everyone
thought Jennifer Aniston and Pedro Pascal were having this intimate
dinner together because it looked like they were hugging alone
in a restaurant. But when you look at the wide shot,
there's about fifteen other people of their friends at the table.
So it did look like Orlando had left his fiance
of ten years and his daughter flowing too n and
(16:11):
immediately hooked up with Sydney Sweeney. But I don't believe
that is the case. But it's also like it's Jeff
Bezels just friends with all of these celebrities. I think
it sounds like they sent out like a bit of
a cattle call through all the big Hollywood talent agencies
and just got as many celebs as they could. I know,
some of the celebs are their actual friends they've been
pictured with, Like Lauren has been friends with the Kardashians
(16:31):
for a really long time, so that checked out. But
someone like Sydney Sweeney, I was like, this young girl
in her twenties from Texas. I think she is like,
I know, she's been a big star in the industry
for a really long time, but how is she becoming
friends with Jeff and Lauren?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't know. I mean, she looked beautiful in the
on the way to the wedding. She just bring this
beautiful pink strapless gown. She looked every bit the celebrity,
like absolutely stunning. It's kind of almost become a little bit.
It feels a bit like canned to me. Yeah, this wedding,
it was very can coded, yes.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Because there were so many big events, and every event
had this huge theme to it, so it was about
I think a lot of them just went to be
part of I mean, if you got invited to a
fifty million dollar wedding. I have to say, would one
hundred percent go just to see it and experience it,
to see the phone party on that yacht that they had,
and to see like the pajama party they had afterwards,
and all these kind of crazy things. But I think
for a lot of them it was about, yeah, the
(17:21):
media attention, the looks, and I think a lot of
them had almost paid their stylists to pull as many
looks as they you're right for can or like for
the Metgala, like pre parties and after parties in the
red carpet, like it had that vibe of like pulling
this whole kind of cature looks and vintage looks and
all these sorts of things for the wedding.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
So another one of my favorite moments. It's not a
celebrity moment specifically, but now I can't stop thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Now, one of the officially released photos from Lauren and
Jeff's wedding, there's only a couple of officially released photos
from Vogue Ye is the photo of Lauren and Jeff
just after I'm assuming just after they got married, walking
back down the aisle, and you know, there's people clapping
behind them. She's seen in her Dol Jacoban address. He's smiling,
(18:07):
big smiles. I've seen the photo of times. I didn't
really think anything of it. Then I was scrolling through
TikTok and saw someone say, why is nobody talking about
the carpet.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I did not even look at the carpet.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I didn't even notice the carpet either, Like, that's not
what I can't unsee it. It is this horrible great
look at.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
This, Oh that looks like a tacky airport carpet. It's
like a really tiny airport where there's like not even
a food court.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
So fifty million dollar wedding and they have this like
boardroom gray carpet, And now I can't unsee it because.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Like in the venue where they got married.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
This is where they got married. Look at these beautiful photos,
the chairs, and there's this carpet. It looks like you
know how you get those squares, those square bits of
carpet that you get the temporary carpet that they put
on down.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Like they send this stuff. They didn't get married in
a venue, right, they got married outside.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Get married outside, So couldn't they have picked like a
nice white or like yeah, row someone's or like, we've
got fifty million dollars here and we're putting down carpet squares.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
This is what happens when people with a huge amount
of money and no taste a planet event. And I
also say that as someone who also has no rich
and fancy taste, he would probably have picked a similar
carpet because you can kind of see with Lauren, like
she's doing what we would do if maybe you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
But I don't see everyone is. I don't think it's
that bad. I don't know why everyone thinks she's so tacky.
I don't get it. Invitation, No, I didn't say the invitation.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
The invitation is wild. It looks like something that I
would have made in paint in like grade eight or something.
It's got like doves and then butterflies and then flowers
and like a sunny person dree. I'm just saying if
someone said to me, he's fifty million dollars to plan
a wedding, and I would lose my mind. But I
also wouldn't know how to make the details look nice,
Like I'd have a really tacky wedding invitation that looks
(19:54):
like someone made it on paint. I wouldn't think about
the carpet and get a gray carpet. I have a
phone party on a yacht, because you just don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
But they said the same wedding plans as Emmaala and George. Yeah,
what is this carpet? I'm so and now I cannot.
I can't look at this photo anymore without looking at
this carpet. So guys, please go have a look at it.
If I have to live with this, and you too, too.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Right, speaking of some other things that people are calling taki,
I just want it on the record. I'm not saying
this is taki because as much as I call them out,
I do have a soft spot for the Kardashians. And
they were all out in force. Kim was there, Chloe
was there, and Kendall and Kylie. Kylie got called out
because she was wearing I think it was meant to
be silver, but it photographed white. Oh no, you see
her gown. This is the Kardashians moment. If anyone's going
(20:39):
to go full out with their wedding looks, they did so.
They had, like, you know, the gowns out and the beautiful,
opulent looks and everything. But I think my favorite Kim
Kardashian look was the one. Well, it's a bit of
controversy of where she actually wore this, but the after
party apparently had a pajama themed vibe. I don't think
anyone actually dressed in like their full pajamas. Everyone was
going very lingerie inspired. And then Kim Kardashian posted this
(21:01):
series of photos of her in her Venice hotel room
and walking through the streets of Venice in this very
over the top lingerie inspired look designed by the person
I think who designed Kylie Jenner's slightly viral white silver
wedding dress. So this designer was getting like a lot
of a lot of fame through this weekend. And so
Kim Kardashian's got like the knee high stockings on, and
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then she's got almost like a corset and her boobs
like spilling out of the top looks amazing. And then
she's almost got like a robe wrapped around her. And
there's so many photos of her that she's posted in
this outfit, and it looks like she's going she's like
dressed up to go to the after party, right, So
it's totally fine that she's out over the top apparently
she didn't even go because if you look at the timeline,
(21:46):
you can track private jets like that. That information is public.
That's how people. I love so mad. I want to
think that the same person who tracked her jet is
the person who matched Victoria's dress to Giselle.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
There's one mastermind in her room somewhere.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
No matter what, there is an Internet sleuth out there
that will find out exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
This is how people found out that Kylie was properly
dating Timothy Shallame before anything was public, because they were
spotted together a few times, like in the background of
like paparazzi shots, and they were so careful never to
be seen again. But then if you tracked Kylie's jet,
every time Timothy chala May had a premiere and different city,
her jet flew there, so she was like flying around.
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That's how we tracked it anyway.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So another reason to fly commercial exactly. That's why I
fly commercially too. It's just so people can't track me.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, some people. And I'm going to visit my family
in Queensland and flying back because that's the in place
I go anyway. So apparently Kim Kardashian's private jet flew
out while the party was happening, which means she put
together this whole crazy lingerie inspired look. She had full
hair and glam, which would have taken hours and hours
and hours. She did a full photo shoot in her
hotel room, then she did a full photo shoot in
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this outfit in the streets of Venice, and then she
took it all off and got a plane and flew home,
which I just I don't know, I find like that
is the whole point of Kim Kardashian. Like I know
she's an incredible business woman in reality star, but at
the end of the day, the way she props up
all of her is through essentially being like almost like
an influencer and taking photos and that sort of stuff.
But just to me, like doing the whole dress up
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and then not even going to the party, just that
feels weird, Like it feels weird from a publicity point
of view.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I think for you and I it feels weird for them.
Nothing surprises me about them anymore, like that scene that
tracks For me, Yeah, it doesn't feel that weird to me,
Like we've seen that the Kardashians, you know, get styled
for walking down the street.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Like we know that, oh, doing a three hour, five
hour glam shoot just to take a photo for Instagram.
When your Kim Kardashi, it makes total sense to me,
Like when I see her just wanting to take a
photo in these outfits she has at home, knowing she's
had six hour glam for the photo, Like, to me,
that's just normal and fine. I don't care about that.
I think it's the pretense of going to an event
that you clearly weren't at. Again, it's like when Kylie
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Jenner got super dressed up and did a full photo
shoot at home for the premiere of The Kardashians when
they first moved to Hulu and then clearly didn't go
to the event. It's just this weird kind of mister
of like you dressed up, pretended to go, but we
know you didn't go.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It would have been quite refreshing to just see her
in like an oversized T shirt and her undies with
a pair of like ug boots. Aren't because that's what
I wear.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
To bed, Yeah, exactly, No, any kind of bed themed part.
We wouldn't be very glam for me.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
It would be quite refreshing. To see that. Don't you
think you just see them really stripped back for once?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, exactly, But she was never really gonna, never gonna
go down that path. So we had a few celebrities
who were not very happy about the very lavish event.
So we had Rosio O'Donnell, and just like that, newest
guest star, If used her turn as a virgin nun
Great put up a post where she pretty much tore
apart Jeff Bezos and his fake fembot wife Lauren Sanchez
(24:51):
for their very over the top wedding. She said it
was a very kind of gross excessive it all, and
that it turned her stomach to see it all. And
then she said something out loud that a lot of
people have been saying in the comments, but she's the
first celebrity to say it. She said, is Oprah really
friends with Jeff Bezos? How is that possible? How could
that be possible? Oprah was the photographed at all the events.
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Apparently she was the one tearing up the dance floor
till all hours of the morning, and a lot of
people in the comments are really upset because they didn't
think that was her vibe. They thought she would be
above this. A lot of people who have demonized Jeff
and Lauren for the wedding are also on this kind
of thing of like Oprah is like for the people,
and she's a humanitarian. How could she take part in this?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I think Oprah has been around for so long she
is not a regular Yes, I thought too, Oprah is Oprah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
She's been a millionaire, a multi multimillionaire, and like running
with the millionaire billionaire club a lot longer than she's
been working class. So of course these friends.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I believe her friendship with Jeff and Lauren more so
than I believe a friendship between like Leo or even
Orlando Blue and like that makes a lot more sense
to me, And maybe that disappoints some people. Yeah, but again,
she's a media mogul. She has been one of the
most famous presenters to viewers journalists on TV for since
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the eighties. Yeah, exactly, She's going to be there. I
think chose is the most makes the most sense.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, exactly. Well, the end of the day, people being
so surprised by these connections. I know, I said I
was a bit surprised by some of the younger Hollywood
stars being there. But the end of the day. These
people all filthy rich, and filthy rich people hang out
with other filthy rich people because they're all in that world.
So like of course Oprah's there, these are her people,
that these are the people who are on her level,
and I don't think it's surprising that she was kind
(26:38):
of very front and center. And then Katie kirk they
very famed journalist and TV presenter, called Lauren Sanchez's dress tacky,
and she wrote this under a photo that someone else
had posted. And then the whole thing's been deleted, but
the Internet, of course never forgets. So Katie Kuric said,
underneath the photo of Lauren Sanchez's big like bridal moment,
(26:59):
welcome to the eighties when big hair and conspicuous consumption ruled.
And then everyone underneath is also calling the dress tacky.
And then also Charlie's Theron, who was speaking at event
in la said, I think we might be the only
people who did not get an invite to the Basil's wedding.
But that's okay because they suck and we're cool, which.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I think is what I would say if I was
speaking of it that weekend as well.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I kind of love that. Look, everybody has their own aesthetic,
and her aesthetic is Beverly Hill's New Money. That's her aesthetic, and.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
That's okay, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I know it sounds like my voice is breaking, but
I do really feel like it's okay. It's not my style,
but I mean, she's got the boobs and the face
and the very tight dresses, and you know it's fine.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well, I think why people are sort of having this
big conversation around Taki not Tacky is obviously because it
was everywhere, but also the dress was, and the whole
wedding was featured in a big spread in Vogue on
a digital cover. But still Vogue did a whole roll
out around the wedding, and that came at the same
time as it was confirmed that Anna Wintour would be
stepping down as editor in chief, and people think they're connected.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Now I have a little bit to say about this. Now, obviously,
you guys have seen the news that Anna Winter has
stepped down from Vogue, and yes, there have been some
connections to the fact that maybe it was because of
Lauren Sanchez. I don't think it is. Anna Windle has
been with Vogue for thirty seven years, it's time for
her to step down. I really wanted to talk about
this today because she's such a cultural icon and a
(28:32):
window is really part of the cultural zeitgeist, and you know,
the Devil Wears Prita is based on her. We've got
the September issue, that famous documentary that was about her.
She is such an icon of fashion, So to see
her stepping down is like quite a huge moment now
for all those people who are feeling quite sad and disappointed.
(28:55):
She's not going for good. She will still be part
of the Condonast universe. She'll be the editorial director of
Vogue and chief content officer for Continast, but she's just
actually not going to be editor chief of Vote Yes Now.
The interesting thing that she has done is that the
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new editor will not have editor in chief as their title.
They will have Head of Editorial Content Interesting as their
new title, which kind of means that Anna Winter will
be perpetually the editor of Vote Yes Now. I wanted
to kind of like talk a little bit about like
(29:37):
how incredible she was when she first came on the scene.
So she came on the scene in nineteen eighty eight
and her very first cover, if you see this cover,
you'll recognize it instantly. So before nineteen eighty eight, all
of the covers of Folk were very much face. But
if you look at everything from the seventies sixties, it
(29:57):
is all about really really tight shots of the face.
It's really beauty. You don't see anything in the background.
As soon as Anna Winter comes on board, it's like models,
it's all about the shots. Even to the point this
is a really cool story. The very first cover had
a model, little known model called MICHAELA Burku on the cover,
and she's wearing a Christian Lacois jumper with like this
(30:20):
big cross, like a coture jumper and jeans, and apparently
the printer calls up Vogue and said, are you sure
that this is the cover because he was so convinced
that it wasn't going to be a cover image. So
that was the very first cover she did, which I
thought was really cool. But you know, she's so iconic
and that bob she was always wearing the same thing.
(30:40):
I love her. I know that she's got like a
really bad.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
She's done some bad things, yeah, in terms of like
a quality and diversity and allegedly the way she treats stuff.
But it's all kind of like, yeah, wrapped up in
this mythol she has she is.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I love her minthos. I love it. And I think
it's also because I see like Meryl Streep in her
now or Meryl Streep and her interchangeable. But she's a dame.
She's actually damn a winter oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And I mean that's the thing is like she's become
she's one of the few people who is like very
recognizable in fashion to like I guess just like the
plubs of the world. And I put myself in that
category people who are not sort of up on the
fashion world. And this kind of mythols of like how
she dresses, that she never wears black, even though like
black is very much the color of people working in fashion.
That she wears those big sunglasses to every event, even
(31:27):
at nighttime on red carpets, that people are not allowed
to make direct eye contact with her, and the offices
of Vogue. That she eats a steak for lunch every
day and like mashed potatoes and or like a caprize
salad but without the salad. Like that she has someone
come to her house every second day to trim her
bob in her fringe, which dreams that's my life. Gold
have someone come to my house and trim my friend.
That's one of my I keep it perfect, this whole thing,
(31:49):
And so that's kind of interesting, is like people thought
that the Bezos wedding ended her career at Vogue. What
they think happened is that because Jeff Bezos offered them
money that they put Lauren Sanchoz on this digital cover
and did a big spread and Anna Wintal got so
upset that she quit. But kind of hearing the background
that you were saying there about how she's staying in
the company and what she's doing, shows that she's still
(32:10):
really pulling the strings there. And also it's like Oprah
Bankner like as if Anna Wintour wouldn't put Lauren Sanchez
on the cover, she'd put her on the cover before,
she'd put a plus sized woman, a wound of color,
so many other things. And also Anna Wintour, for all
her like high fashion is also she cares most about
being on the zeitgeist, Like she put Malania Trump on
(32:31):
the cover of Vogue when she married Donald Trump because
they were of the moment, Like she put Kim Kardashian
and Kanye West on the cover and got so much
backlash for that, but she was like, this is what
people are talking about, So I actually think she'd be
fine with Lauren Sanchez on the cover.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
There was a lot of speculation that she waited a
very long time to put Kim on the cover. She
noticed the very first time she put Kim on the cover,
it was with Kanye.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yes, she wanted to buy herself. No, no, no, but I
think she had that still got a huge amount of backlash,
but I think that that was the height of them
like having this very huge public romance and everyone was
talking about them, and so she was the first one
to kind of like jump ship and put Kim Kardashi
in this high fashion spot because she knew that's what
people were talking about. And a lot of people who
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were insiders at Vogue, like Gabrielle Karifa Johnson, who was
an editor at Vogue is now like more of a
freelance fashion stylist and styles like a lot of the
big red carpet looks for celebrities, among other things, was
saying on Instagram threads that you can't buy a cover
of Vogue, and she was explaining and then people were
coming back at her, and she was like, I know,
it's a digital cover, and she's like, out of everyone
(33:34):
in this threat, who's complaining, I mean, the only one
who's ever worked there. So she was alluding to the
fact that like things can happen behind the scenes and
like it's not as clean cut as them just choosing
the best image. But you can't outright buy a cover,
is what she was saying.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I think that that's fair. I mean, Anna Winter still
has her integrity, and Vogue as to have its integrity
as well. But you know, she's wearing del Changer Barna,
She's wearing a talkludul Changer Bana, and.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Apparently Anna Wintour helped her pick the dress.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Obviously Lauren and Anna's aesthetics are very very different.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Oh yes, And it's interesting how much Anna Wintour kind
of moves celebrities and famous people and people and fashion
like around like chess pieces. Because everyone saying that she
picked Lauren Sanchoez's dress and she dressed her up, but
she also picked the name of Kanye and Kim Kardashian's
first child, like they were only half thinking about Northwest
and they're like it's a joke. I'm not going to
do it. And then they had lunch with Anna Wintour
(34:26):
and she's like, no, you have to name her Northwest,
so they did. Like what this woman says is gospel
to these people.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I think about her being that old money. But even
if we talk about the transformation of Kim Kardashian from
being a herblaser bandage dress girl with the pumps and
the Peepto pumps and like her tacky aesthetic was her
look for a very long time. Yeah, that transition into
(34:52):
this high fashion girl that she is today really started
with the Vogue cover.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
An acceptance from Anna Wintour is an acceptance from everyone
in the fashion industry.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Absolutely, And I think at the end of the day,
like as much as people said they didn't care about
this wedding and stuff, has had this huge ripple effect
through fashion and pop culture, which is why we've had
to have this huge discussion about it. So I'm hoping
a bit more drama and scandal comes out of it
as the days pass. But yeah, overall, like I know,
it was a gluttonys terrible for the environments celebrity event,
but everything to do with these people is and we
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still look at it in consume it so.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And I got to stare at Orlando Bloom's thighs.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm seeing you differently. Now I'm going to say I'm
seeing you differently and this discussion will continue. Well, thank
you very much for listening to our epic wedding for
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Speaker 2 (36:03):
Bye bye, Lana
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Brodneck and I'm Casene Lookitch and coming up on the
show today. I know you've heard a lot about this
big billionaire Bezos wedding and all the celebs being in
(00:37):
Vennes but there is so much interesting little stories that
came off the back of this. So we're not going
to get into what the billionaires did at their wedding.
We're going to get into what happened in the streets
of Venice with all the celebs there, because it kind
of had more like a little bit more drama, a
bit more intrigue than some of the big red carpets
we've seen recently.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
There are some juicy, juicy pap shots.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, so we no, we don't condone pap shots. We
will talk about them when needed. So we're going to
get into that today. But first a bit of Australian
TV drama. So the host of Australian Survivor, Jonathan Lapalia,
put out a pretty emotional statement, saying that after ten years,
he'd been let go from the Channel ten series Australian Survivor.
So posting on his Instagram page, he said Australian Survivor
(01:21):
has seen some of the most epic blind sides over
the last ten years, but this one might be the
craziest of them all because it happened to me, like,
I know, he's upset. That's good storytelling. Right after that,
I'm not even a Survivor fan. He's got me in,
He said. I received a call from the network thanking
me for all my hard work and dedication to the show.
But for the next season they are going in a
(01:42):
different direction.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I hate that phrase.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, well, I mean exactly, that's what you say to
kind of smooth it over when you're letting someone go.
And then he said this is where it gets juicy.
He said ratings had dipped a bit recently and they
wanted to do something drastic to shake things up. So
for the first time ever, this is not a tribe swap,
but a host swap. Yes, you read that right. He
went on to talk about how he wished it wasn't happening.
He said he has no idol in his back pocket.
(02:06):
That's a Survivor joke about not being able to change
their decision. Went on to say how much he loved
working on the show with a talented crew and how
it's one of the greatest achievements of his life, and
then went on to say, don't pull the hankies out
just yet, because they've already pre filmed the next season
of Survivor, so he's hosting that, but after that that'll.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Be his last season.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Here at the moment, me are officers. We have quite
a few big Survivor fans. Now, you and I are
both not massive fans. I can understand the impact it's
had on like the culture, but we've got some hardcore
Survivor fans in this office, so we thought that we
would share their reactions to losing Jonathan Lapalia as the
(02:45):
host of Australian Survivor.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I am so shook. I don't think I've ever been
this shook over like a reality TV news story. Just
to put into like context, like Jonathan Lapaalia is the
most beloved Survivor host.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Potentially in the whole world.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Like I know Jeff Propes has a lot of fans,
but I would say that people are just as passionate
about Donethi la Palia. So he's a titan of reality TV,
and it makes everything much more juicier that it seems
like he did not leave on his own accord. It
sounds like something's happened with ten and his contract has
(03:26):
been ended. I don't know what the glosses, but it
is wild and we're all screaming, crying, throwing up.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
My entire friendship group is in mourning, like we are
not handling this news. Our group chat about Survivor is
called JLP's Arms. That's how much this man matters to us.
So it definitely was a big shock to see that
he was acts like. It's widely known that he is
the best Survivor host behind Jeff Probes, the host of
the original US version. So very shocking news, but interesting
(03:57):
to see why the decision was made.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I'm a fairly casual watcher of Survivor these days, but
I have to say I'm quite surprised by JLP being oustairged.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You know, he's such a fantastic host. He does an
amazing job.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
He's probably, like, you know, the most iconic Survivor hosting
the world in my opinion after Jeff and like he
does such a good job of like matching that energy
and bringing so much to the table. Like I love him,
and I think he's going to be a bit sad
to watch Survivor without him. I think, like, at the
same time, if the rumors are true and you know,
David Golden God does take his place, I think he'll
(04:29):
bring something really interesting to the table, but it will
definitely be like a bit of a different dynamic. He's
one of the best players you know in the Australian game, arguably,
and so it might be hard for him to kind
of just sit on the sidelines and be a bit
more impartial the way that you know JLP does. But
I'm excited to see what happens. But I'm very, very
devastated for JLP.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That is not nice. It's obviously devastating for the Survivor community.
My colleagues were in mourning and upset and like nearly
having to take personal days. So many people were messaging
me being like, oh my god, I can't wait till
you guys talk about this on the spill. This is
the biggest news. Like all my social feeds were filling
up with it like it has hit people hard.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I know, And it's an interesting move. You know, Australian Survivor.
It's not one of like the biggest rad things carriers,
but it has been a really consistently good show on
Network ten, So it's an interesting move. It's like, why
try and fix something if it's not broken, Like he
obviously has a lot of fans, he obviously was not
(05:25):
expecting it. I'm wondering if it's a budget thing, like
his contract was up. Perhaps he was too expensive and
they're trying to get someone who's a little bit cheaper
because I'd say after the amount of years that he's
done with Survivor, he's on a pretty good wikend. But
perhaps they're just trying to look for a more cost
effective option.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, I mean, obviously all like the rumors and comments
are swirling, Like if you go into all the comment threads,
a lot of past cast members on The Survivor are
virtually very upset about it, but also saying that it
could be to do with cost cutting or they're bringing
in maybe more of a stunt host, like a past
contestant with a really big following to kind of shake
things up. But I don't know, it's interesting. I just
think Network ten is just having a big shake up
(06:07):
across all their shows at the moment. I mean, after
like getting the project and then bringing that new news
show and wanting to shake this up. I feel like
they just like they're just sitting around a board room
table trying to like just see all the different pieces
they can move around, like get ratings up, save money.
I mean that's what we're seeing in every network at
the time.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I mean, look, I would say, my gut tells me
it's probably a cost cutting reason. I would say Jonathan
Napolio is just too expensive for them.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah. And I guess the interesting thing is a lot
of celebrities because they have this kind of very media
trained persona online would have just put up a statement
saying like I loved my time and you can't wait
to see where they go next, and I'm sad to leave,
but I wish everyone the best. But because Jonathan Lapalia
is so outspoken, just kind of everyone I know who's
interviewed him just said like he just is so direct.
(06:54):
He doesn't mince his words, he doesn't follow what the
PR team tell him to say. He just says what
he wants. So it'll be interesting as this next season
of Survivor airs and they announce the new host to
kind of see what he'll say, because he'll be very unfiltered.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Well, and that's I think probably the key part to
this is his response was it wasn't a joint press
release with Challenging, It was him having a bit of
a dig at than one.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Also, I love that he put in all of those
little puns, and like Jakes, he kind of tied it
back to Survivor. You can tell he's been living and
breathing this for so absolutely. I kind of respect him
a lot for just saying how he felt. Oh I
do too, and being like, you know what, this came
out of left field. This is not what I wanted, but.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
There is what's happened. Yeah, well, stay in tuned for
the new host announcement. I wonder for how they feel
if they already know who they are, seeing that post
go up and knowing that their announcement will be have
a lot of drama around it.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Whoever it is is going to have some big shoes
to fill.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
So over the weekend, if you have any sort of
online social media account, your feeds would have been absolutely flooded.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
No, I know you could not look anywhere without seeing
the news of Jeff Baboss and Lauren Sanchez's waiting.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yes, it was absolutely everywhere. You couldn't escape it. So
the Amazon billionaire and the former journalists, right, so you know,
quote for us. Yet I'm holding out that I'm going
to get a billionaire wedding in a few years and
that's just going to sort my life out. Had their
fifty million dollar wedding is the estimated amount in Venice
in Italy. So I know that you guys last week
covered a lot of like who they are and the
(08:26):
lead up to it and all that sort of stuff.
But what we need to talk about is all the
celebrity guests that descended on the city of Venice, and
apparently they all gave donations to the city to kind
of smooth it over. But the locals were not happy
about the circus obviously, like the infrastructure in Venice and
also the amount of over tourism. At the moment, it's
already a bit of a dicey area. People were even
(08:46):
putting up signs and like dummies dressed as Jeff Bezos
through the streets like they wanted the celebs gone, but
they would not be deterred. So we had a whole
bunch of celebrities. And because you have to get on
and off the boats to travel everywhere, which I think
they all liked. Because they all had their outfits and
everything ready for the pap shots. There was no way
for anyone to really slip out of hotels into waiting
cars or anything like that. It was all very public.
(09:09):
So is there a celebrities and you wanted to start with?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Okay, there's a few that I really really want to
talk about. My favorite was Leonardo DiCaprio wearing a baseball
cap with his tucks. Yeah, he is very well known
for wearing baseball caps everywhere to hide from the paps.
But it makes me laugh because he's wearing a full tux,
like very black tie. But then the hat is like
(09:33):
a black tie hat, yeah, which I kind of appreciate.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I think he has them custom me. You right, he
wears them to everything. My biggest memory of his fiftieth
birthday party that was so studded is him like slinking
inside with his head down with a cap pulled so
far down over his face. You only see his little
chin poking out, and I was like, Leo, we know
it's you. The cap actually makes it worse.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's kind of his thing now. I have seen him
at nightclubs and stuff before, and he's always wearing a
baseball cap always, and I think it must be like
a security blanket for him.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I think it's for so long and he's you got
to think he's still one of those like actors. For
someone who's like, I'm here for the work, not the fame,
I'm like, so you spend all your time hanging out
with billionaires at fancy parties, at nightclubs, on yodels. Yeah,
with models, so don't say that you were just here
for the art.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
He was there with his girlfriend, Vittoria Serretti, and she's
a slightly more age appropriate a twenty seven than he's
normally under twenty five, so I guess he has started
to up his age limit, which is kind of nice
to see. I guess.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I mean, that's so big of him to stay with
her past twenty five. I think he did hate all
the commentary and the jokes and the graphs that people
were making about dumping his girlfriends after twenty five so
maybe that's worked out in Vittoria's favor. She was also
getting a lot of attention because she posted before and
after photos of this beautiful gown that she was wearing,
and she'd had a wardrobe malfunction sometime during the night
(10:58):
and it had ripped, and you think getting in and
out of those boats to go down the canals and surprise,
more celebrities didn't have their dresses ripped or torn or something.
But the other thing is that that dress was previous
worn by Giselle Bunchin, who was with Leonardo DiCaprio for many,
many years. To the met gala right there, you go,
oh my god, people are just like dots.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I can't believe you wouldn't say it, like you know,
people on the internet, they're going to pick out every
single detail. Her stylist needs to have done better, beautiful.
That was a gorgeous tra It.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Was such a gorgeous trip. I would have to be honest,
if that was the dress that I looked at the
best in when all eyes of the world were going
to be on me at this big wedding, I would
have just worn it and not worry about the Giselle thing.
But also she's only twenty seven, Like.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
She doesn't even know who to sell bunchen is.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Can you imagine I'm sure she well, I'm sure she does.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Just knowing Selle's vintage.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, I mean she wore it so many years ago
at the met gala. I'm sure that that didn't even
kind of factor into her mind. And why would you
think that people would connect those dots? But that's what
people do with these kind of solid moments.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, what was your favorite? One of your favorite?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Okay, there's a bit of scandal light going on. There
wasn't as much scandal as we thought obviously inside the party,
but Orlando Bloom and Sydney Sweeney that the moment, I guess.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, I've had a crush on Orlando Blume since legless
elf really so, I had an Orlando Blue mural like
on my wall that I used to go to, Like
what's the shop called we used to buy seatings.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I don't know where you used to go, like a
sanity or something. I used to go on, Like I
don't know where you're getting your weird legalist fans.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Flick through in any Orlando Bloom poaster, I would buy it.
So I had a really big legalist one. I had
a white one. I had one of him in Pirates Caribbean,
Like I.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Was, he's hotter in Pirates.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I was like Orlando bloom Stand.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
This is how you can really tell what kind of
person someone is. It's like whether you grew up as
a legalist girl or an Aragon girl. Aragon the elf
he looked like, I mean, I'm sure he was lovely.
He was very brave, but like, I'm not a Aragon
is the hot rugged one.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Oh my god, Like we're going to have a lot
of the rings off here because apparently they're elves. Aragon
only looks called dirty. Yeah, it's hot all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And he's a bit too Etherol for me.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He can float away, he can walk on top of
the snow.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That's not what I'm looking for a lover.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I have to say, No, he's and he's like really sexy.
You that one where he slides off that.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It's quite hot, But I don't know, he's just he's
a bit too etheroal and magical for me. He sounds
like someone want to hang out and like skip through
the woods with.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You would rather not have like Hugo Weaving and legaliss.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
No Raicon's the hot one with the sword and the
fed and druggedness. I mean, I'm sorry, this is a
lot of the Rings podcast celerities.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I don't know what's happened to Sorry, back to actually
and yes, so he was seen walking the streets of
Venice with Sydney Sweeney and Tom Hardy.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yes, so that's the thing that pap pictures don't show you.
So there were all these rumors that Katie Perry and
Orlando Room had ended their ten year nearly engagement, and
people were saying it was to do with the space
flight and her dancing on stage and that he got
the ick. And I'm like, guys, they've been together for
nearly a decade. I'm sure it was more than that.
Maybe that one of their fights escalated over the space trips,
(14:12):
the paddle, the photo. Oh yeah, there's so much law
with this couple. That's I just hope the rumors aren't true,
no offense to you, and I.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Think they are. He said that like it's a new beginning.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, he did say that. Well, they haven't publicly, at
least at the time of recording, either of them haven't
come out and confirmed the split. But it's been confirmed
by a lot of reputable sources, so we think it
has happened. But then he was pitching in Australia, so
people thought, are they back on? But she's also touring
here and apparently their young daughter, Daisy Dove Bloom, is
here in Australia, so it makes sense that he would
fly over and maybe visit them. But then he jetted
(14:45):
off to the wedding solo, even though he's big environmentalists,
but apparently ninety four private jets landed. Yeah, so in Venice.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
There was a lot of commentary about that, and also
with Leonardo DiCaprio.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Everyone's an environmental Let's.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Just ignore that for a second and talk about have
you seen the Pat photos. I know that we can't
really show the Pat photos.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
On here, but we'll describe them to you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
He's okay, he's wearing the shortest shots I've ever seen
in my life, and he's got these beautiful quads they're
bulging out of his shorts. Okay, and he looks so hot.
And then Sydney Sweeney's wearing this beautiful floral gown and
she's got the best boobs in the business. Comes quite
frankly if I have to say anyone whose boobs are better,
(15:26):
there are no boobs better than See she's got great boobs. Anyway,
She's throwing this beautiful, flowy, very summary Italian riviera kind
of dress, and they're walking together. But if you look
at the shop, some people are kind of speculating them together.
But then in a wide shot, Tom Brady's there as well,
and there's like another person, So maybe they are just
(15:46):
met up at the wedding and we're like, we're gonna
go sightseeing together.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
That's the thing with these shots is like, if you
look at the close up shots, it's like when everyone
thought Jennifer Aniston and Pedro Pascal were having this intimate
dinner together because it looked like they were hugging alone
in a restaurant. But when you look at the wide shot,
there's about fifteen other people of their friends at the table.
So it did look like Orlando had left his fiance
of ten years and his daughter flowing too n and
(16:11):
immediately hooked up with Sydney Sweeney. But I don't believe
that is the case. But it's also like it's Jeff
Bezels just friends with all of these celebrities. I think
it sounds like they sent out like a bit of
a cattle call through all the big Hollywood talent agencies
and just got as many celebs as they could. I know,
some of the celebs are their actual friends they've been
pictured with, Like Lauren has been friends with the Kardashians
(16:31):
for a really long time, so that checked out. But
someone like Sydney Sweeney, I was like, this young girl
in her twenties from Texas. I think she is like,
I know, she's been a big star in the industry
for a really long time, but how is she becoming
friends with Jeff and Lauren?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't know. I mean, she looked beautiful in the
on the way to the wedding. She just bring this
beautiful pink strapless gown. She looked every bit the celebrity,
like absolutely stunning. It's kind of almost become a little bit.
It feels a bit like canned to me. Yeah, this wedding,
it was very can coded, yes.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Because there were so many big events, and every event
had this huge theme to it, so it was about
I think a lot of them just went to be
part of I mean, if you got invited to a
fifty million dollar wedding. I have to say, would one
hundred percent go just to see it and experience it,
to see the phone party on that yacht that they had,
and to see like the pajama party they had afterwards,
and all these kind of crazy things. But I think
for a lot of them it was about, yeah, the
(17:21):
media attention, the looks, and I think a lot of
them had almost paid their stylists to pull as many
looks as they you're right for can or like for
the Metgala, like pre parties and after parties in the
red carpet, like it had that vibe of like pulling
this whole kind of cature looks and vintage looks and
all these sorts of things for the wedding.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
So another one of my favorite moments. It's not a
celebrity moment specifically, but now I can't stop thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Now, one of the officially released photos from Lauren and
Jeff's wedding, there's only a couple of officially released photos
from Vogue Ye is the photo of Lauren and Jeff
just after I'm assuming just after they got married, walking
back down the aisle, and you know, there's people clapping
behind them. She's seen in her Dol Jacoban address. He's smiling,
(18:07):
big smiles. I've seen the photo of times. I didn't
really think anything of it. Then I was scrolling through
TikTok and saw someone say, why is nobody talking about
the carpet.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I did not even look at the carpet.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I didn't even notice the carpet either, Like, that's not
what I can't unsee it. It is this horrible great
look at.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
This, Oh that looks like a tacky airport carpet. It's
like a really tiny airport where there's like not even
a food court.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
So fifty million dollar wedding and they have this like
boardroom gray carpet, And now I can't unsee it because.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Like in the venue where they got married.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
This is where they got married. Look at these beautiful photos,
the chairs, and there's this carpet. It looks like you
know how you get those squares, those square bits of
carpet that you get the temporary carpet that they put
on down.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Like they send this stuff. They didn't get married in
a venue, right, they got married outside.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Get married outside, So couldn't they have picked like a
nice white or like yeah, row someone's or like, we've
got fifty million dollars here and we're putting down carpet squares.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
This is what happens when people with a huge amount
of money and no taste a planet event. And I
also say that as someone who also has no rich
and fancy taste, he would probably have picked a similar
carpet because you can kind of see with Lauren, like
she's doing what we would do if maybe you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
But I don't see everyone is. I don't think it's
that bad. I don't know why everyone thinks she's so tacky.
I don't get it. Invitation, No, I didn't say the invitation.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
The invitation is wild. It looks like something that I
would have made in paint in like grade eight or something.
It's got like doves and then butterflies and then flowers
and like a sunny person dree. I'm just saying if
someone said to me, he's fifty million dollars to plan
a wedding, and I would lose my mind. But I
also wouldn't know how to make the details look nice,
Like I'd have a really tacky wedding invitation that looks
(19:54):
like someone made it on paint. I wouldn't think about
the carpet and get a gray carpet. I have a
phone party on a yacht, because you just don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
But they said the same wedding plans as Emmaala and George. Yeah,
what is this carpet? I'm so and now I cannot.
I can't look at this photo anymore without looking at
this carpet. So guys, please go have a look at it.
If I have to live with this, and you too, too.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Right, speaking of some other things that people are calling taki,
I just want it on the record. I'm not saying
this is taki because as much as I call them out,
I do have a soft spot for the Kardashians. And
they were all out in force. Kim was there, Chloe
was there, and Kendall and Kylie. Kylie got called out
because she was wearing I think it was meant to
be silver, but it photographed white. Oh no, you see
her gown. This is the Kardashians moment. If anyone's going
(20:39):
to go full out with their wedding looks, they did so.
They had, like, you know, the gowns out and the beautiful,
opulent looks and everything. But I think my favorite Kim
Kardashian look was the one. Well, it's a bit of
controversy of where she actually wore this, but the after
party apparently had a pajama themed vibe. I don't think
anyone actually dressed in like their full pajamas. Everyone was
going very lingerie inspired. And then Kim Kardashian posted this
(21:01):
series of photos of her in her Venice hotel room
and walking through the streets of Venice in this very
over the top lingerie inspired look designed by the person
I think who designed Kylie Jenner's slightly viral white silver
wedding dress. So this designer was getting like a lot
of a lot of fame through this weekend. And so
Kim Kardashian's got like the knee high stockings on, and
(21:24):
then she's got almost like a corset and her boobs
like spilling out of the top looks amazing. And then
she's almost got like a robe wrapped around her. And
there's so many photos of her that she's posted in
this outfit, and it looks like she's going she's like
dressed up to go to the after party, right, So
it's totally fine that she's out over the top apparently
she didn't even go because if you look at the timeline,
(21:46):
you can track private jets like that. That information is public.
That's how people. I love so mad. I want to
think that the same person who tracked her jet is
the person who matched Victoria's dress to Giselle.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
There's one mastermind in her room somewhere.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
No matter what, there is an Internet sleuth out there
that will find out exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
This is how people found out that Kylie was properly
dating Timothy Shallame before anything was public, because they were
spotted together a few times, like in the background of
like paparazzi shots, and they were so careful never to
be seen again. But then if you tracked Kylie's jet,
every time Timothy chala May had a premiere and different city,
her jet flew there, so she was like flying around.
(22:25):
That's how we tracked it anyway.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
So another reason to fly commercial exactly. That's why I
fly commercially too. It's just so people can't track me.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, some people. And I'm going to visit my family
in Queensland and flying back because that's the in place
I go anyway. So apparently Kim Kardashian's private jet flew
out while the party was happening, which means she put
together this whole crazy lingerie inspired look. She had full
hair and glam, which would have taken hours and hours
and hours. She did a full photo shoot in her
hotel room, then she did a full photo shoot in
(22:56):
this outfit in the streets of Venice, and then she
took it all off and got a plane and flew home,
which I just I don't know, I find like that
is the whole point of Kim Kardashian. Like I know
she's an incredible business woman in reality star, but at
the end of the day, the way she props up
all of her is through essentially being like almost like
an influencer and taking photos and that sort of stuff.
But just to me, like doing the whole dress up
(23:18):
and then not even going to the party, just that
feels weird, Like it feels weird from a publicity point
of view.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I think for you and I it feels weird for them.
Nothing surprises me about them anymore, like that scene that
tracks For me, Yeah, it doesn't feel that weird to me,
Like we've seen that the Kardashians, you know, get styled
for walking down the street.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Like we know that, oh, doing a three hour, five
hour glam shoot just to take a photo for Instagram.
When your Kim Kardashi, it makes total sense to me,
Like when I see her just wanting to take a
photo in these outfits she has at home, knowing she's
had six hour glam for the photo, Like, to me,
that's just normal and fine. I don't care about that.
I think it's the pretense of going to an event
that you clearly weren't at. Again, it's like when Kylie
(23:59):
Jenner got super dressed up and did a full photo
shoot at home for the premiere of The Kardashians when
they first moved to Hulu and then clearly didn't go
to the event. It's just this weird kind of mister
of like you dressed up, pretended to go, but we
know you didn't go.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It would have been quite refreshing to just see her
in like an oversized T shirt and her undies with
a pair of like ug boots. Aren't because that's what
I wear.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
To bed, Yeah, exactly, No, any kind of bed themed part.
We wouldn't be very glam for me.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
It would be quite refreshing. To see that. Don't you
think you just see them really stripped back for once?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, exactly, But she was never really gonna, never gonna
go down that path. So we had a few celebrities
who were not very happy about the very lavish event.
So we had Rosio O'Donnell, and just like that, newest
guest star, If used her turn as a virgin nun
Great put up a post where she pretty much tore
apart Jeff Bezos and his fake fembot wife Lauren Sanchez
(24:51):
for their very over the top wedding. She said it
was a very kind of gross excessive it all, and
that it turned her stomach to see it all. And
then she said something out loud that a lot of
people have been saying in the comments, but she's the
first celebrity to say it. She said, is Oprah really
friends with Jeff Bezos? How is that possible? How could
that be possible? Oprah was the photographed at all the events.
(25:11):
Apparently she was the one tearing up the dance floor
till all hours of the morning, and a lot of
people in the comments are really upset because they didn't
think that was her vibe. They thought she would be
above this. A lot of people who have demonized Jeff
and Lauren for the wedding are also on this kind
of thing of like Oprah is like for the people,
and she's a humanitarian. How could she take part in this?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I think Oprah has been around for so long she
is not a regular Yes, I thought too, Oprah is Oprah.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
She's been a millionaire, a multi multimillionaire, and like running
with the millionaire billionaire club a lot longer than she's
been working class. So of course these friends.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I believe her friendship with Jeff and Lauren more so
than I believe a friendship between like Leo or even
Orlando Blue and like that makes a lot more sense
to me, And maybe that disappoints some people. Yeah, but again,
she's a media mogul. She has been one of the
most famous presenters to viewers journalists on TV for since
(26:12):
the eighties. Yeah, exactly, She's going to be there. I
think chose is the most makes the most sense.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, exactly. Well, the end of the day, people being
so surprised by these connections. I know, I said I
was a bit surprised by some of the younger Hollywood
stars being there. But the end of the day. These
people all filthy rich, and filthy rich people hang out
with other filthy rich people because they're all in that world.
So like of course Oprah's there, these are her people,
that these are the people who are on her level,
and I don't think it's surprising that she was kind
(26:38):
of very front and center. And then Katie kirk they
very famed journalist and TV presenter, called Lauren Sanchez's dress tacky,
and she wrote this under a photo that someone else
had posted. And then the whole thing's been deleted, but
the Internet, of course never forgets. So Katie Kuric said,
underneath the photo of Lauren Sanchez's big like bridal moment,
(26:59):
welcome to the eighties when big hair and conspicuous consumption ruled.
And then everyone underneath is also calling the dress tacky.
And then also Charlie's Theron, who was speaking at event
in la said, I think we might be the only
people who did not get an invite to the Basil's wedding.
But that's okay because they suck and we're cool, which.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I think is what I would say if I was
speaking of it that weekend as well.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I kind of love that. Look, everybody has their own aesthetic,
and her aesthetic is Beverly Hill's New Money. That's her aesthetic, and.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
That's okay, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I know it sounds like my voice is breaking, but
I do really feel like it's okay. It's not my style,
but I mean, she's got the boobs and the face
and the very tight dresses, and you know it's fine.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well, I think why people are sort of having this
big conversation around Taki not Tacky is obviously because it
was everywhere, but also the dress was, and the whole
wedding was featured in a big spread in Vogue on
a digital cover. But still Vogue did a whole roll
out around the wedding, and that came at the same
time as it was confirmed that Anna Wintour would be
stepping down as editor in chief, and people think they're connected.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Now I have a little bit to say about this. Now, obviously,
you guys have seen the news that Anna Winter has
stepped down from Vogue, and yes, there have been some
connections to the fact that maybe it was because of
Lauren Sanchez. I don't think it is. Anna Windle has
been with Vogue for thirty seven years, it's time for
her to step down. I really wanted to talk about
this today because she's such a cultural icon and a
(28:32):
window is really part of the cultural zeitgeist, and you know,
the Devil Wears Prita is based on her. We've got
the September issue, that famous documentary that was about her.
She is such an icon of fashion, So to see
her stepping down is like quite a huge moment now
for all those people who are feeling quite sad and disappointed.
(28:55):
She's not going for good. She will still be part
of the Condonast universe. She'll be the editorial director of
Vogue and chief content officer for Continast, but she's just
actually not going to be editor chief of Vote Yes Now.
The interesting thing that she has done is that the
(29:16):
new editor will not have editor in chief as their title.
They will have Head of Editorial Content Interesting as their
new title, which kind of means that Anna Winter will
be perpetually the editor of Vote Yes Now. I wanted
to kind of like talk a little bit about like
(29:37):
how incredible she was when she first came on the scene.
So she came on the scene in nineteen eighty eight
and her very first cover, if you see this cover,
you'll recognize it instantly. So before nineteen eighty eight, all
of the covers of Folk were very much face. But
if you look at everything from the seventies sixties, it
(29:57):
is all about really really tight shots of the face.
It's really beauty. You don't see anything in the background.
As soon as Anna Winter comes on board, it's like models,
it's all about the shots. Even to the point this
is a really cool story. The very first cover had
a model, little known model called MICHAELA Burku on the cover,
and she's wearing a Christian Lacois jumper with like this
(30:20):
big cross, like a coture jumper and jeans, and apparently
the printer calls up Vogue and said, are you sure
that this is the cover because he was so convinced
that it wasn't going to be a cover image. So
that was the very first cover she did, which I
thought was really cool. But you know, she's so iconic
and that bob she was always wearing the same thing.
(30:40):
I love her. I know that she's got like a
really bad.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
She's done some bad things, yeah, in terms of like
a quality and diversity and allegedly the way she treats stuff.
But it's all kind of like, yeah, wrapped up in
this mythol she has she is.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I love her minthos. I love it. And I think
it's also because I see like Meryl Streep in her
now or Meryl Streep and her interchangeable. But she's a dame.
She's actually damn a winter oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And I mean that's the thing is like she's become
she's one of the few people who is like very
recognizable in fashion to like I guess just like the
plubs of the world. And I put myself in that
category people who are not sort of up on the
fashion world. And this kind of mythols of like how
she dresses, that she never wears black, even though like
black is very much the color of people working in fashion.
That she wears those big sunglasses to every event, even
(31:27):
at nighttime on red carpets, that people are not allowed
to make direct eye contact with her, and the offices
of Vogue. That she eats a steak for lunch every
day and like mashed potatoes and or like a caprize
salad but without the salad. Like that she has someone
come to her house every second day to trim her
bob in her fringe, which dreams that's my life. Gold
have someone come to my house and trim my friend.
That's one of my I keep it perfect, this whole thing,
(31:49):
And so that's kind of interesting, is like people thought
that the Bezos wedding ended her career at Vogue. What
they think happened is that because Jeff Bezos offered them
money that they put Lauren Sanchoz on this digital cover
and did a big spread and Anna Wintal got so
upset that she quit. But kind of hearing the background
that you were saying there about how she's staying in
the company and what she's doing, shows that she's still
(32:10):
really pulling the strings there. And also it's like Oprah
Bankner like as if Anna Wintour wouldn't put Lauren Sanchez
on the cover, she'd put her on the cover before,
she'd put a plus sized woman, a wound of color,
so many other things. And also Anna Wintour, for all
her like high fashion is also she cares most about
being on the zeitgeist, Like she put Malania Trump on
(32:31):
the cover of Vogue when she married Donald Trump because
they were of the moment, Like she put Kim Kardashian
and Kanye West on the cover and got so much
backlash for that, but she was like, this is what
people are talking about, So I actually think she'd be
fine with Lauren Sanchez on the cover.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
There was a lot of speculation that she waited a
very long time to put Kim on the cover. She
noticed the very first time she put Kim on the cover,
it was with Kanye.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yes, she wanted to buy herself. No, no, no, but I
think she had that still got a huge amount of backlash,
but I think that that was the height of them
like having this very huge public romance and everyone was
talking about them, and so she was the first one
to kind of like jump ship and put Kim Kardashi
in this high fashion spot because she knew that's what
people were talking about. And a lot of people who
(33:14):
were insiders at Vogue, like Gabrielle Karifa Johnson, who was
an editor at Vogue is now like more of a
freelance fashion stylist and styles like a lot of the
big red carpet looks for celebrities, among other things, was
saying on Instagram threads that you can't buy a cover
of Vogue, and she was explaining and then people were
coming back at her, and she was like, I know,
it's a digital cover, and she's like, out of everyone
(33:34):
in this threat, who's complaining, I mean, the only one
who's ever worked there. So she was alluding to the
fact that like things can happen behind the scenes and
like it's not as clean cut as them just choosing
the best image. But you can't outright buy a cover,
is what she was saying.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I think that that's fair. I mean, Anna Winter still
has her integrity, and Vogue as to have its integrity
as well. But you know, she's wearing del Changer Barna,
She's wearing a talkludul Changer Bana, and.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Apparently Anna Wintour helped her pick the dress.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Obviously Lauren and Anna's aesthetics are very very different.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Oh yes, And it's interesting how much Anna Wintour kind
of moves celebrities and famous people and people and fashion
like around like chess pieces. Because everyone saying that she
picked Lauren Sanchoez's dress and she dressed her up, but
she also picked the name of Kanye and Kim Kardashian's
first child, like they were only half thinking about Northwest
and they're like it's a joke. I'm not going to
do it. And then they had lunch with Anna Wintour
(34:26):
and she's like, no, you have to name her Northwest,
so they did. Like what this woman says is gospel
to these people.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I think about her being that old money. But even
if we talk about the transformation of Kim Kardashian from
being a herblaser bandage dress girl with the pumps and
the Peepto pumps and like her tacky aesthetic was her
look for a very long time. Yeah, that transition into
(34:52):
this high fashion girl that she is today really started
with the Vogue cover.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
An acceptance from Anna Wintour is an acceptance from everyone
in the fashion industry.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Absolutely, And I think at the end of the day,
like as much as people said they didn't care about
this wedding and stuff, has had this huge ripple effect
through fashion and pop culture, which is why we've had
to have this huge discussion about it. So I'm hoping
a bit more drama and scandal comes out of it
as the days pass. But yeah, overall, like I know,
it was a gluttonys terrible for the environments celebrity event,
but everything to do with these people is and we
(35:27):
still look at it in consume it so.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And I got to stare at Orlando Bloom's thighs.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm seeing you differently. Now I'm going to say I'm
seeing you differently and this discussion will continue. Well, thank
you very much for listening to our epic wedding for
Rowdown episode today, and don't forget to follow the Spill
on TikTok and Instagram. Instagram is where we'll post all
the videos and photos were allowed to post from the
wedding if you want to see what we're talking about.
And The Spill is produced by A Minithi's War and
(35:52):
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Speaker 2 (36:03):
Bye bye, Lana
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