June 5, 2025 • 32 mins
On the show today, the trailer for the new season of Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders has dropped, and we're getting excited about all the drama still to come.
Plus, Kylie Jenner has responded to a TikToker's question with surprising candor, revealing exactly what she had done in her breast augmentation. So does that make her the ultimate girls’ girl and what does it all mean in the context of celebrity transparency?
And The White Lotus co-stars Aimee Lou Wood and Walton Goggins have addressed the swirling rumours of a feud. You can read their interview with Variety here. We delve into their side of the story and discuss whether it's a genuine love affair or strategic PR move.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, if you do say so ourselves. Anyway, coming up
on the show today speaking of what women look like,
that was a terrib what segua Ever, Hylie Jennat has
dropped the I want to say recipe for her boob drop.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The recipe is such a good way to explain this exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
It sounds like she was saying, like two tablespoons of this,
one hint of sugar, a little cinnamon, mix it all together,
introduced a sous chef exactly she did. And then you've
got wo up perfect breast. So we're gonna get into
that because there's a bit of a backstory. Also, our
favorite celebrity feud and yes it's a feud I will
not be lied to, is back in the headlines. We're
(01:38):
going to talk about that. But first of all, we've
got a little treat today.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
We do have a little tree today because it feels
like we talked about this the last one we talked
about this feels like five years ago. It wasn't that
long ago.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, well no, Dallas Cowboys cheerlead, Yes, no, last year
we did it. It came into our lives changed us aw forever.
We all thought we could do the splits none of
us could, which had a really honest review which went
absolutely nuts. And I've never thought about cheerleading before in
my life. I probably won't again after this, but Dallas
Cowboys chelad has changed us all. And then we heard
they were getting a second season. Netflix had their big
(02:11):
upfronts presentation over the weekend and I was watching waiting
for the trailer because that would have been the time
to announce it, but they decided to keep us waiting,
and just last night they have dropped the trailer for
season two.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We are really excited that there's a lot of new girls.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Every year.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
The talent just gets better and better, and letters.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was cut, but I knew the dream wasn't over yet.
Everyone's going to say, well, they're just cheerleaders.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
We were really good cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
They all have do crazy things and wanted to be here.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It's hard when you get to put your hard aside.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, but it worked costs. There's nothing like the Dlskotboy cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Emily, why are you laughing?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
The best reality TV is always the second season, really
because you understand the stakes now, right, Like there's people planing,
you know, the people, you know the cost of everything.
So I'm so excited for this season. However, this trailer
is so unnecessarily dramatic, which I also love about it.
That one line is like you have to put your
(03:19):
herd aside, Yeah, but at what cost? Thinking that someone's
going to die. They're not going to die. There's just
not going to be a cheerleader.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, they might die because they all have to work.
I'm sorry, that's a real thing. Have you seen those girls.
They're in and out of surgery like the rest of us,
going in and out of like getting on.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Nail stays, breaking their legs.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
They're breaking their legs. Their bones are brittle. They are
exhausted because they have to work three jobs to support
their dream. They have to like not see their family
and friends. I actually think one of them could die.
I'm just putting that out there. But this is how
they've made this show such a huge hit, is because
their other reality TV show, Making The Team, was being
out for over like seven years. Yeah, seven seasons of
(03:57):
really intense, like documentary making, and that was a huge
hit in the US. But it was so nasty and
there was nothing expirational about it. There was nothing heightened
about it, so it didn't really take off. But Netflix
has put this like heroic feminist spin on it, making
them look like their Avengers going to the Olympics saving
the world.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's so true. Like I remember last season, the most
dramatic upsetting thing that happened was when one of the
girls had to go from blonde to brunette.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
That was so upsetting. And her name's Kelly. Okay, Kelly's
back for season two. Yeah, she made the team. She
made the team. She's back for season two.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
But I remember we were just like, oh god, Kelly,
not a brunette.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I thought the most dramatic thing was the body shaming
and bullying of like Victoria and all that sort of stuff.
You're like, no, no, the hair dye scene, all the
scenes where they said they got paid less than Chipotle workers.
A few interesting pickups from this trailer. Author It opens
with the girls talking about how they do thunderstruck at
each other's weddings, and they get very emotional over that
because that has been one of the biggest TikTok moments
(05:00):
after the show left.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Can we also say that our produce amination knows how
to do that dance?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Do you do it now?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Do it right now? To the point where she's criticized
other people who've done it wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
This is a side of minisure. I did not know.
Oh my gosh, all right, well, you're gonna have to
put your money on your mouth. Is because I just
talked a big game about us not being able to
do the dance. Guys will film it, don't worry film it.
The other big moment out of this is that they
still talk in this new trailer about having to have
several jobs to support themselves. And that was the biggest
criticism that came out of the Netflix show. That the
(05:32):
players on the field get paid millions and millions of
dollars and the girls are earning like three K year
something like that for almost working a full time job.
And there was so much outrage around that. I think
people thought they would maybe switch it up and they
would do something just because the public was so mad.
But they don't need to. Why would they These girls
are lining up.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Like hundreds of girls every year, even girls.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Apparently they had a record number of girls come into
audition for this new season, even though they're always at capacity,
and it was harder than ever before to get on
the team, Like they could actually just stop paying them completely,
and that these girls would still throw themselves into doing this.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Whole first season. The biggest part is exactly what you said,
how they're not paying the girls enough, and especially in
comparison to the football players who are on like millionaires,
And I think that stark difference was so intense in
that first season, and yet it's still acted as promo
from what Else to Go audition.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I know we get paid less than a Chipotle work
and everyone's like, yeah, sign us up. So anyway, I've
got a new season coming.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Very very exciting. The new season drops June eighteenth. We
will be watching and I do feel a bruly on
a triview Season two coming up.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh absolutely clear my entire week for that. So just
yesterday we got another little unexpected treat. It's an embarrassment
of Richards this week DCC trailer. And now there's because
our favorite celebrity feud has resurfaced, and that is between
two of the White Loatus stars from season three, Walton
Goggins and Amy Lou Wood, who have come together.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The amount of times we've said this feud has a resurface,
we just kept coming away.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's like that tsunami that comes at the end of
at the end of the White Loaders. It's just like
you think it's coming, you think it's coming, you think
it's coming in that it all of a sudden, it
just crashes. So Waltngoggins and Amy Lee Wood start as
Rick and Chelsea in the Whiteladus season three absolute fan favorites.
They're very toxic, complicated, but romantic storyline. I mean, we
(07:34):
did a whole brilliantant his review. I won't spoil the
end for like the two people who haven't watched it yet,
but they were very important. The finale. People became very
obsessed with not only their characters and their story, but
also the actors who played them. And then towards the
end of the Whiteladus season three whispers started that the
two of them were feuding. Walton Goggins didn't shop to
(07:55):
the premiere party. The messy Bitch, that is Jason Isaacs,
who played Tim Ratliffe in the show, came out and
said that there was tensions on set. Friendships were wan
and friendships were lost, which started everyone looking for who
this few could be. And then Walton unfollowed Amy Lou
Wood on Instagram. It really blew up. I'm going to
(08:16):
go out there and say that we really contributed to
that because one of the theories that was out there
was that Walton and Amy Lou had had a torrid
love affair and his wife was upset and that's why
they unfollowed each other and they'd had creative differences. And
that video of us having that conversation, you spread the
lires just in case Walton.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I didn't if you remember, I whispered it, so it
doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yes, So that video of us whispering that they had
an affair just blew up on every social account. So
I do feel like we accidentally, on purpose contributed.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
We were just saying what the people were saying. Who
are the people?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Don't girl's chatting. It's just us in the spillit. It's
not our fault that a whole bunch of randoms on
TikTok found that and blew it up and made it
look like fact. And so this just continued for such
a long time, and now all of a sudden, when
it's actually all died down and I think everyone has
finally moved on, Walton Goggins and Amy lou Wood did
a joint interview and a full photo shoot and all
(09:13):
the trimmings with Variety to put this story to rest.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So this interview with Variety, I saw this the minute
I woke up this morning.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's like your body knew My body.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Knew it was six am. I straight away looked at
my phone, extremely healthy habit of mine, and that was
the first thing I saw, the first thing I read.
So I first read this interview with my eyes very
blurred because I was still adjusting.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
To the line, like what are they kissing? And they hug?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You could not understand. And I think it's my favorite
interview really to see it at least Gods maybe like
second to the scarlet your hands in profile.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh yeah, you loved that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I really love that. Anyway, So what I thought we
could do is a dramatic reading of the main parts
of the interview I really enjoyed. And I'm going to
be Walton and You're going to wait, I'm involved in this, yes,
but you're not speaking great.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I was like, I'm I did not have this prepared,
so I.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Just set it up. Amy and Walton hadn't seen each
other in a really, really long time. So what happened
was is when they got there, they became very very
emotional upon seeing each other, not in an angry way,
in like I love you way that they asked the
team if they could have a few minutes alone outside
and what happened outside was a lot of tears and
a lot of meetings and greetings. So what happened is
(10:31):
that in this whole interview they do talk about each
one of those rumors. They talk about that interview that
Walton stormed out of, They talked about the unfollowing, They
talked about the feud. They didn't touch on the rumor
that we accidentally feel about the cheating, but they didn't
mention any form of infidelity at all. So I'm just
(10:54):
going to go through the bits and we will figure
out what we think, what's going on, what's the truth,
what's not. So this is about unfollowing each other on Instagram,
and I'm going to be Walton. I'm going to see
if I can cry and command because every single quote
he has in here is also filtered by the idea
that he was crying while saying oh yesus, so I
(11:16):
really and I'm crying, Okay. I needed to back away
from everyone. I told Amy in advance that I was
going to unfollow her, not because of anything she did,
but because I needed to process saying goodbye to Rick.
That's his character. By the way, I haven't spoken to anyone.
I couldn't handle it. Judge me or don't. I don't
(11:38):
give a fuck what you think. This is my process.
Rick means everything to me and Chelsea means everything to me,
and so that's what I needed to do for me
to process all of this. Do you believe me?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Not even a little bit? Not? I mean I believe
you was Walton Goggins, okay to the fact that you've
got this weird, ceed sexy kind of broke going okay,
which you should definitely carry profile. I was gonna say,
we're dating up either way, see who you pick up.
But there's just there's no way that that's real.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
You don't think that's real.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, look, I do think this man is a bit
of like trying to shape himself as like a kooky
creative genius. But it just feels like damage control. Yeah,
because so do you think.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
They would have had a conversation beforehand saying this is
what we're going to say, Like I, oh.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, no, No, I think this bit is planned. Like
I think they decided, like we need to address that,
and this is what we're gonna say, and we're just
gonna say that Ion followed you for creative reasons and
everything was fine. We had a conversation about it, and
you crazy people who live your lives on Instagram and
don't know fact from fiction and need to get out
of your parents' basement. You people need to get a life.
(12:48):
And that is the subtext, not even the subtext, because
I actually say you need you people need to get
a life pretty much in this. But there's just no
way because if that was the truth, in all of
interviews they were doing, they were getting asked about it.
There was headlines. It was on every like big newspaper,
The New York Times covered it like if something's blowing
up like that, and your whole cast and like the
(13:08):
whole team is taking this huge hit, and it was
that was actually the story. Come out and say it
at the time it earlier.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, oh I like that. Okay, Okay. The next one, okay, okay,
This is about him not watching the finale with Amy
Lou Wood and the rest of the cast. He said,
I probably wouldn't have gone anyways. He says that first,
but within fifteen minutes of discussing the finale, both are
tearing up and he admits to Wood, I wish I
(13:36):
would have been able to watch this with you. It
was so catharic and so painful, and I regret that.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I really do Yeah, he regrets it because they were
fighting and he regrets he regrets fighting with her and
missing that moment, okay and having like a little hissy
fit apparently okay, allegedly, Yeah, she did say at the time,
because she got asked at the finale party, this is
the thing she's been She did so many interviews and
she got asked about this over and over and over again,
(14:03):
and she could have put it all to rest by saying,
oh my god, yeah Walton, like we're so close, but
he has this huge thing where he unfollows people on
Instagram and he doesn't want to come to the finale
and we're just dealing with it. But it's fine. Like
she never said that. All she said was, yeah, I
really wish she was here. It would have been nice.
This is at the finale event. And then she said,
but it's very Rick and Chelsea that I'm here and
(14:24):
I'm all in and he's not here. Yeah, she's a
clever wait, and it's.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Really interesting that they're leaning into the story of like
this is his method when there hasn't been any proof
that he's unfollowed anyone else that he's worked it.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I know he mentioned a few big names of like
movies he'd done many years ago. And he's like, well,
we just didn't have Instagram then, And I was like,
so you follow a lot of coworkers. And also you've
got this whole thing that he doesn't look at Instagram,
he doesn't live online. He's on about that. So I
was like, if you don't look at Instagram, then why
did you need to unfollow her because you were so
(14:56):
worried about seeing her? If you don't look at it, and.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You do look on Instagram because you did those posts
about SNL, about how much you enjoyed it and then
had to.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Delete it, nothing about this man's story is adding up.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Were you've seen the receipts Walton just okay, last quote
is quite intense. This is about the feud in general. Okay,
there is no feud. I adore. I love this woman madly.
She's not really doing much for the cheating room our
video click, and she is so important to me, he says,
(15:26):
getting choked up. Goggins turns and looks at Wood. This
is Goldie Horn, This is Meg Ryan. She can do anything,
and she will. You watch what the next twenty years
of her experience will be. I'll be on an island.
I think Greece. I don't know where he's going with this,
(15:47):
but she's special. There is no feud. She is love
and I know that I am that to her. We
care about each other very deeply. With tears in his eyes,
he continues, I'm emotional because we haven't been in the
same city to ever talk about this. So for me,
this is so wonderful. I mean, has he heard about
(16:07):
a phone? Clearly not, because he's he couldn't do it,
even if it's dry.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
He couldn't get her number because he deleted her from
her phone and blocked all their photos.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay. At the end, he says, hopefully that answers everybody questions.
He says he's wiped his tears. The contagious smile is back.
What else do you guys want to talk about astrology?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Oh? That's because their first text messages to each other
are about a school astrology. Look, I will give Walton this.
The man walked into that room to put on a show,
and he delivered like. There's one point where the interviewer
is like, I'm just gonna put the full transcript in there,
because the Variety reporter was like, I cannot begin to
unravel what these people said and put the quotes in
and all that sort of stuff. He also says that
(16:50):
during the interview, Walton kept leaning over, grabbing the recorder
and like yelling into it that he wanted. He was like,
because apparently one of their big things is like they
had this they were supposed to have this big, huge
sex scene at the end of The Whiteloaders and it
got caught, and so he's like, fuck, you might white
like give us the director's cart, and then he's saying
all this other stuff and he's crying, and he's apparently
Amy Lou were just sitting there being angelic and just
(17:13):
like he obviously came in to put on a show
and to like really get this across. And he's trying
to deflect with tears and calling a Goldie Horn, which
is actually fair. She's like a really gifted actress. But
I'm not buying it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We're not buying it. I feel like this is not
the end to this story.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Though, No, well, what do you actually think happened? Because
what I think happened is yes, So we're very close
on set and then, as Jason Isaac said, things blew
up because they say in here they were used to
living on a set and so and that they got
very overwhelmed. And I think they had some sort of
a falling out. I don't think they slept together. I'm
just gonna say that, I think they had a big
(17:50):
falling out. He threw a tantrum, unfollowed her said he
didn't want to come to any of the events. They've
since reconciled, since they've cooled down, because at the end
of the day, it was just a workplace spat that
was blown up because they were in this really heated
environment and they're both very artistic people. They've now realized,
now they're back on a good path together that they
can't move forward and ever let this escape them. They're
(18:13):
going to be asked about it forever. There's gonna be
theories forever so cited. You know, like when you reconcile
with a friend, or you have this moment all of
a sudden, like it's like you're like, let's do a
magazine coverage. Let's do that and show these people and
like come together and it's and their teams are like,
oh my god, thank god, this is so great. Because
Walton's yelled at and like walked out of interviews and
all this sort of stuff. That's say when the Times
(18:33):
person was pressing him, and he says in this interview
the Times person was so aggressive. I'm like, why don't
you just say like an adult human man, usual words
and say we're not fighting. But you didn't say that
because you were fighting.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
What I'm really interested in is because he is currently
filming season two for Fallout Yes, and I'm really interested
to see his dynamic between his character as the Ghul
Yes and Ella Panel who's human woman, because I think
this next season their relationship is going to be really
(19:06):
close and you're gonna understand the dynamics of the relationship,
whether it's like father daughter a bit more intimate. We
actually don't know as an audience because that show is
so so popular. I'm interested to see how he deals
with that dynamic and if he'll try to follow the
same blueprint to make what he's saying about Amy Lou
would true.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
He's gonna go n he has to now, he has to.
I think he's going to figure it. He's made a
case for him to forget his plan. He's going to
you know what I mean, Look We'll never really know
because this is the story they're sticking to. I just
think I wish someone would get Jason Isaac's on the phone,
the only person I trust, the only person people speak
the truth. Anyway, we will link that interview in the
(19:47):
show notes. You could read it, but I mean, you've
had Emily's impressions, don't read the fact. So this week,
also in the wild world of TikTok, a video well
if resurfaced in my feed, your feed are producers feed
everyone out floor. It's one of those videos that it's
someone you don't know about a topic you've never requested,
but all of a sudden, the TikTok algorithm gods have
(20:08):
just decided that every woman with a pulse and a
TikTok account has to see this video. Yes, and in
this particular video, it was a lovely young woman who
had a very simple request, and her request was that
Kylie Jenner dropped the recipe for her boob job. And
this is what she said.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
This is a TikTok for Kylie Jenner. Please, can you
just tell me slash h slash anyone that's interested what
it is that you asked for when you had your
boobs done. It's like the most perfect natural looking boob
job ever, they're still big.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
To me, it is perfection.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
That is what I aspire mine to look like.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
And if you could just share, that would be great.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
So a lot of people make tiktoks like this cry
for help, very concerned about Okay, no, you know, you
know what. I actually think she's fine. I actually think
she had a question and she put it out to
the universe and she didn't really expect Kylie Jenner to answer,
but maybe she thought it would somehow find its way
into a group of people who had the answer. But
(21:08):
her day was made and she's gone completely viral because
Kylie Jenner did answer, and she saw the video and
Kylie Christian Jenner took to the comments section.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
How you know a middle lay?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I know they say hit on the show, and Kylie
Christian Jenner said.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
This, So she commented on TikTok on the actual TikTok
and her reply was four hundred and forty five or
did you say four four five? Unsure?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I made you read it?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Four four five CC moderate profile half under the muscle silicon.
Garth Fisher hope this helps.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Lull and with that, TikTok shook for a moment and
the world shook because she's never given that information out before.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
But she historically claimed that the reason for her boobs
was because of her period.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, well that's also like when she said that her
here's the thing about that. First of all, there's layers
to this.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
The first layer is like, do you think it's quite
nice that she did that? Like she's being a bit
of a girl's girl by being like, I've got you
here is what I did.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I respect the fact that she gave everything that she's
done with her breast augmentation and that she admitted that
she's had breast and plants. I don't think she's a
girl's girl.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Okay, interesting, I think.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Now she's just like and a lot of the Kardashians
as well. They're all being more and more open about
the work they're getting done. But she's too late.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh she's too late.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I feel like if she was just silent about it
or didn't want to talk about it and now, but
the lies about why she looks the way she looks
it is so damaging to young women.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing isn't it. Because the
thing like Kylie Jenna is that out of all the
Kardashian Jenna is like, they're all very obviously media savvy,
and they know the right people to hire and they
know how to make a story. But she's always the
one who's always been the very best at being like
really in the weeds of social trends that are like
slightly ahead of the game compared to her sisters, or
(23:13):
like they're wider circle. That was her whole thing when
she remembered she was like the queen of Tumblr. Yeah,
the whole king Kylie era. And at first how she
really like took over Instagram.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
She's the way to follow mine.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, she's the most of the one because she's the
best at being like in the weeds with social and
knowing the trends before they happen and being able to
just do it very naturally. And yes, I'm sure she
has people that post for her, but there is something
about her that's more organic than the others, whereas like
Kim's better on like a red carpet or a photoshit,
and they're all better on the show than her. She
comes across from the show just like a dead behind
(23:47):
the eyes. Yeah, can't really talk to the camera. I
can't sort of get any personality across, and all of
that switches when she gets into social so she's she's
really a social girl. And I think that she has
just kind of spied that this is like the next trend,
It's the next way to speak about plastic surgery. So
it's not that she is doing it out of like
the complete goodness of her heart, although I'm sure she
(24:07):
did it with no bad intent. Yeah, I think she
just realizes that's where the trend's going, and she was like,
this is going to paint me in a great light,
and it did in a way that wouldn't have done
ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I just wish she spoke about it sooner because she
is a great case study of this completely working really
really well. And this was when she first got her
lip filler done at a time.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
She's ever had lit filler. She's just really good.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But she just overlined Violet kit. She just overlines her lips.
So she started talking about overlining her lips on the
Kardashians and in person, and then shortly after she did
admit to getting lip filler, she said she was very
insecure about her thin lips and she wanted lip filler. Immediately,
she launched her Kylie lip Kit range and absolutely skyrocketed.
(24:53):
It was like the catalyst for her becoming a self
made billionaire. And then after that is when she started
to gain way more followers than Kim and she just
skyrocketed on social media. She knew that formula worked, and
I just wish she did that for every other part
out of her body because it's so helpful for women
who look at that as like the ideal body to
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have and try to get it in natural ways and
the ways that is super unhealthy and super dangerous, and
it also would just make us so much more money.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, I know, but that's the thing, Like it goes
in stages, and I think she's very aware of it,
Like she's always said that she just grew up. And
then people don't realize that people's faces change when you
grow up. But can I say they don't change that much?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You don't suddenly get like a completely different shape of
your face. Your cheekbones don't lift, your chin doesn't completely
change shape, your nose doesn't change shape, your lips don't grow,
if anything, as you get older, not through your twenties,
but like as you get much older. I'm still talking
about her older sisters. Like, your face doesn't suddenly completely
change shape in a way that exactly follows the beauty
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trends of the time, if anything, like your nose will
change shape in a way you don't like, like your
lips confine, you could get jows. That's all natural, that's fine,
But the fact that they say their faces change, but
I'm like, very convenient that your face is change in
the way of whatever the current conventional beauty trend is.
And so I think with Kylie Jenna, like she always
said that she hadn't had like a full face reconstruction,
(26:20):
and obviously we don't know what she's had, but you
have to be a complete idiot to not like, look
at this girl who we saw grow up on camera
and then look at her face and yes, some of
its makeup, but also she's had a different face.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Shape, yeah, completely different.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
But the thing is, like, there's like a cool girl
way now to kind of admit to plastic surgery, and
I think boob jobs sort of sit in that area
of like it's kind of an okay thing to admit
now because it's just your boobs. It's not like your personality.
She's saying that she got this amount just under the muscle,
and it's really this idea that it's just her natural
shape that's been heightened and lifted a little bit. So
it's not leaning into this idea of like changing or
(26:57):
not adhering to natural beauty. Whereas she's never going to
say she got her whole face redone because that's not
the cool girl thing to say. The cool girl thing
to say is a contoured and so it's almost like
it's almost like bread combing, like your bread cumb a
little bit, like that's what she did when she first said, like,
oh I got a little bit of lip filler, but
I've since let it dissolve and I didn't love it.
And I've got a little smattering here of piller like
and that's what her sisters do too, like Kim. I
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don't think Courtney gets that much done. But Chloe has
a completely different face. Kim has a different face.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Especially Chloe has a different face every season.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
And I know it because I've really looked. I mean again,
I know, I get it. I get it. Like that
woman has been absolutely ripped apart for how she looks.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
But it's also sad when the Kardashians when they first
started out were even at that time before they had
like they might have had filler and plastic surgery at
that time, but it looked like they hadn't, and they
were still the most beautiful women in Hollywood. But it
was like a beautiful that you felt like was achievable
because they looked beautiful for also and I know people
(27:56):
hate when we say this, but they look beautiful for
their age. Yeah, they really did. And then as they
got older but still kind of looked the same. It
just became this thing of like, like I feel like
plastic surgery has always talked about it's like, if you
want to change something about it yourself, you should be
allowed to do that, which is so fair. But now
it's become something like I should change the way I
(28:17):
look because I don't look like my age, even though
you do.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, no exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And just because now we just don't know what people
are meant to look like.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, and that's the interesting thing. I wonder if they've
now just started like admitting to these little things like, oh,
I've had, like I guess a slight boob job if
that's eve anything or I've had slight filler, I've had
a bit. Because now regular women like will go and
have the same thing done, Like I know so many
women just in my circle who like would never leave
their houses without like their botox, their filler, their leaves,
are their treatments, getting their eyelids done, like getting their
(28:47):
boobs done. Like it used to be that I didn't
know anyone who had anything done. And again, like again
absolutely no judgment, Like that's just.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I think everyone should be allowed to change parts of
themselves they don't like or even like have botox and
have filler. You should be allowed to do that. I
just think you should also be transparent about it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
And I know they are being transparent now, but only
in a way that kind of skates along the surface,
or if they absolutely can't get away from it because
everyone's like, oh my god, it's so groundbreaking that Chris
Jenna admitted that she has literally a whole new face,
like she's had that treatment where they go in and
like take every like cell and like move it up
(29:24):
throughout your whole body and face. She had to get
her team to come out and say yes, it was
this doctor in that because there's no way to skate
around that. Did you also see that in that TikTok
comment from Kylie the doctor Brad Fisher, he jumps in
the comments and he's like, oh my god, thanks for
naming me. I lock the shout out. And then Chris
Jenna jumps in and she's like, love you, Brad. You
did my first face lift. So now it's been like
(29:44):
the surgeon who did it is kind of like, you know,
being like the one who delivered your first baby. Yeah,
like they're part of the circle. But I don't think
Christianna would talk about anything else she's had done or
anything else her daughters had done, because it's like you've
got to skate on this acceptable level of plastic surgery.
But the thing is, anytime a celebrity admits to something
like they used to say that had nothing done, and
(30:06):
now they'll like say it's a bit of botox. But
if they've had a bit of botox with they actually
means I have had my full face done. And if they
say the line, yeah, if they say they have filler,
it means I have had like their ears replaced and they've
had a transplant you know what I mean, Like, that's
you've just got to always like times by It's like
when people like say, like how much wine do you
drink a week? And I think your doctor will times
it by ten. Yeah, that's what it is with plastic surgery.
I think that's the new rule. Whatever it is, times
(30:28):
are by ten. WHOA is my kind of thought on that.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So do we think we're on the cusp of now
celebrities admitting to the work they've done, even if it's
just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I think it depends on the celebrity. I think the Kardashians,
they do live in a space that's very curated on
like how they look and their faces sell their products.
I think actresses can kind of get away with it
more to an extent, and they can shy away from that.
So I don't think we'll see like all the actresses,
who again, we all know we're getting these treatments as well.
(30:58):
I don't think they will come out and say it
because it's not their currency. But I think with the Kardashians,
because they work in that space, they're going to start
like bread crumbing little things. And by the time that
Kim Kardashians in her sixties, and she has people fly
to Mars to like grab plasma from like one of
those little pools that they found the fish in to
inject to her face. She'll be like, yeah, I've had
a little botox right here. And I don't blame them
(31:20):
because their looks at their currency and if they don't
look a certain way, as we've seen with Colleie Kardashi,
and they get absolutely ripped apart, not just in Facebook comments,
in music, in TV shows, in comedy and stand up
And I would do that too if I was them,
and if I had the money, I would also buy
a new face. And if I didn't have a needlephobia.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
If you bought a new face, would you tell me I'd.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Come in with a completely new face and you're like,
I'd be like, what do you mean it's just new?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I just overlined my lips.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, no, I've tried that. It doesn't just looks. Just
make it okay, that's the thing. You actually can't make
yourself look like you've had a liptob Like, you just can't.
You've heard it first, You've heard it here first. It
cannot be done. And also again like this doesn't make
me angry Kylie Jenner. Anyway, I actually do think there
was some sort of like camarader really like, yeah, all
(32:09):
the girls in the trenches getting the boot jobs. But
I just think it's going to heighten from here. Oh well,
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So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia
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Oh yeah, you approve the set dressing.
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Yes, I love my color palette. I love your color palette.
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Oh.
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I think we compliment them quite well.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Who gives a damn about the podcast content? Now? It's
all about the makeup and the clothes as God intended
it as feminism and God intended.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So if you don't know what we're talking about, please
head her to our Instagram apps Peel podcast. You can
actually see what we look like because Willie really good.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, if you do say so ourselves. Anyway, coming up
on the show today speaking of what women look like,
that was a terrib what segua Ever, Hylie Jennat has
dropped the I want to say recipe for her boob drop.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The recipe is such a good way to explain this exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
It sounds like she was saying, like two tablespoons of this,
one hint of sugar, a little cinnamon, mix it all together,
introduced a sous chef exactly she did. And then you've
got wo up perfect breast. So we're gonna get into
that because there's a bit of a backstory. Also, our
favorite celebrity feud and yes it's a feud I will
not be lied to, is back in the headlines. We're
(01:38):
going to talk about that. But first of all, we've
got a little treat today.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
We do have a little tree today because it feels
like we talked about this the last one we talked
about this feels like five years ago. It wasn't that
long ago.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, well no, Dallas Cowboys cheerlead, Yes, no, last year
we did it. It came into our lives changed us aw forever.
We all thought we could do the splits none of
us could, which had a really honest review which went
absolutely nuts. And I've never thought about cheerleading before in
my life. I probably won't again after this, but Dallas
Cowboys chelad has changed us all. And then we heard
they were getting a second season. Netflix had their big
(02:11):
upfronts presentation over the weekend and I was watching waiting
for the trailer because that would have been the time
to announce it, but they decided to keep us waiting,
and just last night they have dropped the trailer for
season two.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We are really excited that there's a lot of new girls.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Every year.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
The talent just gets better and better, and letters.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was cut, but I knew the dream wasn't over yet.
Everyone's going to say, well, they're just cheerleaders.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
We were really good cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
They all have do crazy things and wanted to be here.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It's hard when you get to put your hard aside.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, but it worked costs. There's nothing like the Dlskotboy cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Emily, why are you laughing?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
The best reality TV is always the second season, really
because you understand the stakes now, right, Like there's people planing,
you know, the people, you know the cost of everything.
So I'm so excited for this season. However, this trailer
is so unnecessarily dramatic, which I also love about it.
That one line is like you have to put your
(03:19):
herd aside, Yeah, but at what cost? Thinking that someone's
going to die. They're not going to die. There's just
not going to be a cheerleader.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, they might die because they all have to work.
I'm sorry, that's a real thing. Have you seen those girls.
They're in and out of surgery like the rest of us,
going in and out of like getting on.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Nail stays, breaking their legs.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
They're breaking their legs. Their bones are brittle. They are
exhausted because they have to work three jobs to support
their dream. They have to like not see their family
and friends. I actually think one of them could die.
I'm just putting that out there. But this is how
they've made this show such a huge hit, is because
their other reality TV show, Making The Team, was being
out for over like seven years. Yeah, seven seasons of
(03:57):
really intense, like documentary making, and that was a huge
hit in the US. But it was so nasty and
there was nothing expirational about it. There was nothing heightened
about it, so it didn't really take off. But Netflix
has put this like heroic feminist spin on it, making
them look like their Avengers going to the Olympics saving
the world.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's so true. Like I remember last season, the most
dramatic upsetting thing that happened was when one of the
girls had to go from blonde to brunette.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
That was so upsetting. And her name's Kelly. Okay, Kelly's
back for season two. Yeah, she made the team. She
made the team. She's back for season two.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
But I remember we were just like, oh god, Kelly,
not a brunette.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I thought the most dramatic thing was the body shaming
and bullying of like Victoria and all that sort of stuff.
You're like, no, no, the hair dye scene, all the
scenes where they said they got paid less than Chipotle workers.
A few interesting pickups from this trailer. Author It opens
with the girls talking about how they do thunderstruck at
each other's weddings, and they get very emotional over that
because that has been one of the biggest TikTok moments
(05:00):
after the show left.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Can we also say that our produce amination knows how
to do that dance?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Do you do it now?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Do it right now? To the point where she's criticized
other people who've done it wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
This is a side of minisure. I did not know.
Oh my gosh, all right, well, you're gonna have to
put your money on your mouth. Is because I just
talked a big game about us not being able to
do the dance. Guys will film it, don't worry film it.
The other big moment out of this is that they
still talk in this new trailer about having to have
several jobs to support themselves. And that was the biggest
criticism that came out of the Netflix show. That the
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players on the field get paid millions and millions of
dollars and the girls are earning like three K year
something like that for almost working a full time job.
And there was so much outrage around that. I think
people thought they would maybe switch it up and they
would do something just because the public was so mad.
But they don't need to. Why would they These girls
are lining up.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Like hundreds of girls every year, even girls.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Apparently they had a record number of girls come into
audition for this new season, even though they're always at capacity,
and it was harder than ever before to get on
the team, Like they could actually just stop paying them completely,
and that these girls would still throw themselves into doing this.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Whole first season. The biggest part is exactly what you said,
how they're not paying the girls enough, and especially in
comparison to the football players who are on like millionaires,
And I think that stark difference was so intense in
that first season, and yet it's still acted as promo
from what Else to Go audition.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I know we get paid less than a Chipotle work
and everyone's like, yeah, sign us up. So anyway, I've
got a new season coming.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Very very exciting. The new season drops June eighteenth. We
will be watching and I do feel a bruly on
a triview Season two coming up.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh absolutely clear my entire week for that. So just
yesterday we got another little unexpected treat. It's an embarrassment
of Richards this week DCC trailer. And now there's because
our favorite celebrity feud has resurfaced, and that is between
two of the White Loatus stars from season three, Walton
Goggins and Amy Lou Wood, who have come together.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The amount of times we've said this feud has a resurface,
we just kept coming away.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's like that tsunami that comes at the end of
at the end of the White Loaders. It's just like
you think it's coming, you think it's coming, you think
it's coming in that it all of a sudden, it
just crashes. So Waltngoggins and Amy Lee Wood start as
Rick and Chelsea in the Whiteladus season three absolute fan favorites.
They're very toxic, complicated, but romantic storyline. I mean, we
(07:34):
did a whole brilliantant his review. I won't spoil the
end for like the two people who haven't watched it yet,
but they were very important. The finale. People became very
obsessed with not only their characters and their story, but
also the actors who played them. And then towards the
end of the Whiteladus season three whispers started that the
two of them were feuding. Walton Goggins didn't shop to
(07:55):
the premiere party. The messy Bitch, that is Jason Isaacs,
who played Tim Ratliffe in the show, came out and
said that there was tensions on set. Friendships were wan
and friendships were lost, which started everyone looking for who
this few could be. And then Walton unfollowed Amy Lou
Wood on Instagram. It really blew up. I'm going to
(08:16):
go out there and say that we really contributed to
that because one of the theories that was out there
was that Walton and Amy Lou had had a torrid
love affair and his wife was upset and that's why
they unfollowed each other and they'd had creative differences. And
that video of us having that conversation, you spread the
lires just in case Walton.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I didn't if you remember, I whispered it, so it
doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yes, So that video of us whispering that they had
an affair just blew up on every social account. So
I do feel like we accidentally, on purpose contributed.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
We were just saying what the people were saying. Who
are the people?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Don't girl's chatting. It's just us in the spillit. It's
not our fault that a whole bunch of randoms on
TikTok found that and blew it up and made it
look like fact. And so this just continued for such
a long time, and now all of a sudden, when
it's actually all died down and I think everyone has
finally moved on, Walton Goggins and Amy lou Wood did
a joint interview and a full photo shoot and all
(09:13):
the trimmings with Variety to put this story to rest.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So this interview with Variety, I saw this the minute
I woke up this morning.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's like your body knew My body.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Knew it was six am. I straight away looked at
my phone, extremely healthy habit of mine, and that was
the first thing I saw, the first thing I read.
So I first read this interview with my eyes very
blurred because I was still adjusting.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
To the line, like what are they kissing? And they hug?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You could not understand. And I think it's my favorite
interview really to see it at least Gods maybe like
second to the scarlet your hands in profile.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh yeah, you loved that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I really love that. Anyway, So what I thought we
could do is a dramatic reading of the main parts
of the interview I really enjoyed. And I'm going to
be Walton and You're going to wait, I'm involved in this, yes,
but you're not speaking great.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I was like, I'm I did not have this prepared,
so I.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Just set it up. Amy and Walton hadn't seen each
other in a really, really long time. So what happened
was is when they got there, they became very very
emotional upon seeing each other, not in an angry way,
in like I love you way that they asked the
team if they could have a few minutes alone outside
and what happened outside was a lot of tears and
a lot of meetings and greetings. So what happened is
(10:31):
that in this whole interview they do talk about each
one of those rumors. They talk about that interview that
Walton stormed out of, They talked about the unfollowing, They
talked about the feud. They didn't touch on the rumor
that we accidentally feel about the cheating, but they didn't
mention any form of infidelity at all. So I'm just
(10:54):
going to go through the bits and we will figure
out what we think, what's going on, what's the truth,
what's not. So this is about unfollowing each other on Instagram,
and I'm going to be Walton. I'm going to see
if I can cry and command because every single quote
he has in here is also filtered by the idea
that he was crying while saying oh yesus, so I
(11:16):
really and I'm crying, Okay. I needed to back away
from everyone. I told Amy in advance that I was
going to unfollow her, not because of anything she did,
but because I needed to process saying goodbye to Rick.
That's his character. By the way, I haven't spoken to anyone.
I couldn't handle it. Judge me or don't. I don't
(11:38):
give a fuck what you think. This is my process.
Rick means everything to me and Chelsea means everything to me,
and so that's what I needed to do for me
to process all of this. Do you believe me?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Not even a little bit? Not? I mean I believe
you was Walton Goggins, okay to the fact that you've
got this weird, ceed sexy kind of broke going okay,
which you should definitely carry profile. I was gonna say,
we're dating up either way, see who you pick up.
But there's just there's no way that that's real.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
You don't think that's real.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, look, I do think this man is a bit
of like trying to shape himself as like a kooky
creative genius. But it just feels like damage control. Yeah,
because so do you think.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
They would have had a conversation beforehand saying this is
what we're going to say, Like I, oh.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, no, No, I think this bit is planned. Like
I think they decided, like we need to address that,
and this is what we're gonna say, and we're just
gonna say that Ion followed you for creative reasons and
everything was fine. We had a conversation about it, and
you crazy people who live your lives on Instagram and
don't know fact from fiction and need to get out
of your parents' basement. You people need to get a life.
(12:48):
And that is the subtext, not even the subtext, because
I actually say you need you people need to get
a life pretty much in this. But there's just no
way because if that was the truth, in all of
interviews they were doing, they were getting asked about it.
There was headlines. It was on every like big newspaper,
The New York Times covered it like if something's blowing
up like that, and your whole cast and like the
(13:08):
whole team is taking this huge hit, and it was
that was actually the story. Come out and say it
at the time it earlier.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, oh I like that. Okay, Okay. The next one, okay, okay,
This is about him not watching the finale with Amy
Lou Wood and the rest of the cast. He said,
I probably wouldn't have gone anyways. He says that first,
but within fifteen minutes of discussing the finale, both are
tearing up and he admits to Wood, I wish I
(13:36):
would have been able to watch this with you. It
was so catharic and so painful, and I regret that.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I really do Yeah, he regrets it because they were
fighting and he regrets he regrets fighting with her and
missing that moment, okay and having like a little hissy
fit apparently okay, allegedly, Yeah, she did say at the time,
because she got asked at the finale party, this is
the thing she's been She did so many interviews and
she got asked about this over and over and over again,
(14:03):
and she could have put it all to rest by saying,
oh my god, yeah Walton, like we're so close, but
he has this huge thing where he unfollows people on
Instagram and he doesn't want to come to the finale
and we're just dealing with it. But it's fine. Like
she never said that. All she said was, yeah, I
really wish she was here. It would have been nice.
This is at the finale event. And then she said,
but it's very Rick and Chelsea that I'm here and
(14:24):
I'm all in and he's not here. Yeah, she's a
clever wait, and it's.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Really interesting that they're leaning into the story of like
this is his method when there hasn't been any proof
that he's unfollowed anyone else that he's worked it.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I know he mentioned a few big names of like
movies he'd done many years ago. And he's like, well,
we just didn't have Instagram then, And I was like,
so you follow a lot of coworkers. And also you've
got this whole thing that he doesn't look at Instagram,
he doesn't live online. He's on about that. So I
was like, if you don't look at Instagram, then why
did you need to unfollow her because you were so
(14:56):
worried about seeing her? If you don't look at it, and.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You do look on Instagram because you did those posts
about SNL, about how much you enjoyed it and then
had to.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Delete it, nothing about this man's story is adding up.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Were you've seen the receipts Walton just okay, last quote
is quite intense. This is about the feud in general. Okay,
there is no feud. I adore. I love this woman madly.
She's not really doing much for the cheating room our
video click, and she is so important to me, he says,
(15:26):
getting choked up. Goggins turns and looks at Wood. This
is Goldie Horn, This is Meg Ryan. She can do anything,
and she will. You watch what the next twenty years
of her experience will be. I'll be on an island.
I think Greece. I don't know where he's going with this,
(15:47):
but she's special. There is no feud. She is love
and I know that I am that to her. We
care about each other very deeply. With tears in his eyes,
he continues, I'm emotional because we haven't been in the
same city to ever talk about this. So for me,
this is so wonderful. I mean, has he heard about
(16:07):
a phone? Clearly not, because he's he couldn't do it,
even if it's dry.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
He couldn't get her number because he deleted her from
her phone and blocked all their photos.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay. At the end, he says, hopefully that answers everybody questions.
He says he's wiped his tears. The contagious smile is back.
What else do you guys want to talk about astrology?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Oh? That's because their first text messages to each other
are about a school astrology. Look, I will give Walton this.
The man walked into that room to put on a show,
and he delivered like. There's one point where the interviewer
is like, I'm just gonna put the full transcript in there,
because the Variety reporter was like, I cannot begin to
unravel what these people said and put the quotes in
and all that sort of stuff. He also says that
(16:50):
during the interview, Walton kept leaning over, grabbing the recorder
and like yelling into it that he wanted. He was like,
because apparently one of their big things is like they
had this they were supposed to have this big, huge
sex scene at the end of The Whiteloaders and it
got caught, and so he's like, fuck, you might white
like give us the director's cart, and then he's saying
all this other stuff and he's crying, and he's apparently
Amy Lou were just sitting there being angelic and just
(17:13):
like he obviously came in to put on a show
and to like really get this across. And he's trying
to deflect with tears and calling a Goldie Horn, which
is actually fair. She's like a really gifted actress. But
I'm not buying it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We're not buying it. I feel like this is not
the end to this story.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Though, No, well, what do you actually think happened? Because
what I think happened is yes, So we're very close
on set and then, as Jason Isaac said, things blew
up because they say in here they were used to
living on a set and so and that they got
very overwhelmed. And I think they had some sort of
a falling out. I don't think they slept together. I'm
just gonna say that, I think they had a big
(17:50):
falling out. He threw a tantrum, unfollowed her said he
didn't want to come to any of the events. They've
since reconciled, since they've cooled down, because at the end
of the day, it was just a workplace spat that
was blown up because they were in this really heated
environment and they're both very artistic people. They've now realized,
now they're back on a good path together that they
can't move forward and ever let this escape them. They're
(18:13):
going to be asked about it forever. There's gonna be
theories forever so cited. You know, like when you reconcile
with a friend, or you have this moment all of
a sudden, like it's like you're like, let's do a
magazine coverage. Let's do that and show these people and
like come together and it's and their teams are like,
oh my god, thank god, this is so great. Because
Walton's yelled at and like walked out of interviews and
all this sort of stuff. That's say when the Times
(18:33):
person was pressing him, and he says in this interview
the Times person was so aggressive. I'm like, why don't
you just say like an adult human man, usual words
and say we're not fighting. But you didn't say that
because you were fighting.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
What I'm really interested in is because he is currently
filming season two for Fallout Yes, and I'm really interested
to see his dynamic between his character as the Ghul
Yes and Ella Panel who's human woman, because I think
this next season their relationship is going to be really
(19:06):
close and you're gonna understand the dynamics of the relationship,
whether it's like father daughter a bit more intimate. We
actually don't know as an audience because that show is
so so popular. I'm interested to see how he deals
with that dynamic and if he'll try to follow the
same blueprint to make what he's saying about Amy Lou
would true.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
He's gonna go n he has to now, he has to.
I think he's going to figure it. He's made a
case for him to forget his plan. He's going to
you know what I mean, Look We'll never really know
because this is the story they're sticking to. I just
think I wish someone would get Jason Isaac's on the phone,
the only person I trust, the only person people speak
the truth. Anyway, we will link that interview in the
(19:47):
show notes. You could read it, but I mean, you've
had Emily's impressions, don't read the fact. So this week,
also in the wild world of TikTok, a video well
if resurfaced in my feed, your feed are producers feed
everyone out floor. It's one of those videos that it's
someone you don't know about a topic you've never requested,
but all of a sudden, the TikTok algorithm gods have
(20:08):
just decided that every woman with a pulse and a
TikTok account has to see this video. Yes, and in
this particular video, it was a lovely young woman who
had a very simple request, and her request was that
Kylie Jenner dropped the recipe for her boob job. And
this is what she said.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
This is a TikTok for Kylie Jenner. Please, can you
just tell me slash h slash anyone that's interested what
it is that you asked for when you had your
boobs done. It's like the most perfect natural looking boob
job ever, they're still big.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
To me, it is perfection.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
That is what I aspire mine to look like.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
And if you could just share, that would be great.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
So a lot of people make tiktoks like this cry
for help, very concerned about Okay, no, you know, you
know what. I actually think she's fine. I actually think
she had a question and she put it out to
the universe and she didn't really expect Kylie Jenner to answer,
but maybe she thought it would somehow find its way
into a group of people who had the answer. But
(21:08):
her day was made and she's gone completely viral because
Kylie Jenner did answer, and she saw the video and
Kylie Christian Jenner took to the comments section.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
How you know a middle lay?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I know they say hit on the show, and Kylie
Christian Jenner said.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
This, So she commented on TikTok on the actual TikTok
and her reply was four hundred and forty five or
did you say four four five? Unsure?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I made you read it?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Four four five CC moderate profile half under the muscle silicon.
Garth Fisher hope this helps.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Lull and with that, TikTok shook for a moment and
the world shook because she's never given that information out before.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
But she historically claimed that the reason for her boobs
was because of her period.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, well that's also like when she said that her
here's the thing about that. First of all, there's layers
to this.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
The first layer is like, do you think it's quite
nice that she did that? Like she's being a bit
of a girl's girl by being like, I've got you
here is what I did.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I respect the fact that she gave everything that she's
done with her breast augmentation and that she admitted that
she's had breast and plants. I don't think she's a
girl's girl.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Okay, interesting, I think.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Now she's just like and a lot of the Kardashians
as well. They're all being more and more open about
the work they're getting done. But she's too late.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh she's too late.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I feel like if she was just silent about it
or didn't want to talk about it and now, but
the lies about why she looks the way she looks
it is so damaging to young women.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing isn't it. Because the
thing like Kylie Jenna is that out of all the
Kardashian Jenna is like, they're all very obviously media savvy,
and they know the right people to hire and they
know how to make a story. But she's always the
one who's always been the very best at being like
really in the weeds of social trends that are like
slightly ahead of the game compared to her sisters, or
(23:13):
like they're wider circle. That was her whole thing when
she remembered she was like the queen of Tumblr. Yeah,
the whole king Kylie era. And at first how she
really like took over Instagram.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
She's the way to follow mine.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, she's the most of the one because she's the
best at being like in the weeds with social and
knowing the trends before they happen and being able to
just do it very naturally. And yes, I'm sure she
has people that post for her, but there is something
about her that's more organic than the others, whereas like
Kim's better on like a red carpet or a photoshit,
and they're all better on the show than her. She
comes across from the show just like a dead behind
(23:47):
the eyes. Yeah, can't really talk to the camera. I
can't sort of get any personality across, and all of
that switches when she gets into social so she's she's
really a social girl. And I think that she has
just kind of spied that this is like the next trend,
It's the next way to speak about plastic surgery. So
it's not that she is doing it out of like
the complete goodness of her heart, although I'm sure she
(24:07):
did it with no bad intent. Yeah, I think she
just realizes that's where the trend's going, and she was like,
this is going to paint me in a great light,
and it did in a way that wouldn't have done
ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I just wish she spoke about it sooner because she
is a great case study of this completely working really
really well. And this was when she first got her
lip filler done at a time.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
She's ever had lit filler. She's just really good.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But she just overlined Violet kit. She just overlines her lips.
So she started talking about overlining her lips on the
Kardashians and in person, and then shortly after she did
admit to getting lip filler, she said she was very
insecure about her thin lips and she wanted lip filler. Immediately,
she launched her Kylie lip Kit range and absolutely skyrocketed.
(24:53):
It was like the catalyst for her becoming a self
made billionaire. And then after that is when she started
to gain way more followers than Kim and she just
skyrocketed on social media. She knew that formula worked, and
I just wish she did that for every other part
out of her body because it's so helpful for women
who look at that as like the ideal body to
(25:15):
have and try to get it in natural ways and
the ways that is super unhealthy and super dangerous, and
it also would just make us so much more money.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, I know, but that's the thing, Like it goes
in stages, and I think she's very aware of it,
Like she's always said that she just grew up. And
then people don't realize that people's faces change when you
grow up. But can I say they don't change that much?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You don't suddenly get like a completely different shape of
your face. Your cheekbones don't lift, your chin doesn't completely
change shape, your nose doesn't change shape, your lips don't grow,
if anything, as you get older, not through your twenties,
but like as you get much older. I'm still talking
about her older sisters. Like, your face doesn't suddenly completely
change shape in a way that exactly follows the beauty
(25:57):
trends of the time, if anything, like your nose will
change shape in a way you don't like, like your
lips confine, you could get jows. That's all natural, that's fine,
But the fact that they say their faces change, but
I'm like, very convenient that your face is change in
the way of whatever the current conventional beauty trend is.
And so I think with Kylie Jenna, like she always
said that she hadn't had like a full face reconstruction,
(26:20):
and obviously we don't know what she's had, but you
have to be a complete idiot to not like, look
at this girl who we saw grow up on camera
and then look at her face and yes, some of
its makeup, but also she's had a different face.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Shape, yeah, completely different.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
But the thing is, like, there's like a cool girl
way now to kind of admit to plastic surgery, and
I think boob jobs sort of sit in that area
of like it's kind of an okay thing to admit
now because it's just your boobs. It's not like your personality.
She's saying that she got this amount just under the muscle,
and it's really this idea that it's just her natural
shape that's been heightened and lifted a little bit. So
it's not leaning into this idea of like changing or
(26:57):
not adhering to natural beauty. Whereas she's never going to
say she got her whole face redone because that's not
the cool girl thing to say. The cool girl thing
to say is a contoured and so it's almost like
it's almost like bread combing, like your bread cumb a
little bit, like that's what she did when she first said, like,
oh I got a little bit of lip filler, but
I've since let it dissolve and I didn't love it.
And I've got a little smattering here of piller like
and that's what her sisters do too, like Kim. I
(27:19):
don't think Courtney gets that much done. But Chloe has
a completely different face. Kim has a different face.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Especially Chloe has a different face every season.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
And I know it because I've really looked. I mean again,
I know, I get it. I get it. Like that
woman has been absolutely ripped apart for how she looks.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
But it's also sad when the Kardashians when they first
started out were even at that time before they had
like they might have had filler and plastic surgery at
that time, but it looked like they hadn't, and they
were still the most beautiful women in Hollywood. But it
was like a beautiful that you felt like was achievable
because they looked beautiful for also and I know people
(27:56):
hate when we say this, but they look beautiful for
their age. Yeah, they really did. And then as they
got older but still kind of looked the same. It
just became this thing of like, like I feel like
plastic surgery has always talked about it's like, if you
want to change something about it yourself, you should be
allowed to do that, which is so fair. But now
it's become something like I should change the way I
(28:17):
look because I don't look like my age, even though
you do.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, no exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And just because now we just don't know what people
are meant to look like.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, and that's the interesting thing. I wonder if they've
now just started like admitting to these little things like, oh,
I've had, like I guess a slight boob job if
that's eve anything or I've had slight filler, I've had
a bit. Because now regular women like will go and
have the same thing done, Like I know so many
women just in my circle who like would never leave
their houses without like their botox, their filler, their leaves,
are their treatments, getting their eyelids done, like getting their
(28:47):
boobs done. Like it used to be that I didn't
know anyone who had anything done. And again, like again
absolutely no judgment, Like that's just.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I think everyone should be allowed to change parts of
themselves they don't like or even like have botox and
have filler. You should be allowed to do that. I
just think you should also be transparent about it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
And I know they are being transparent now, but only
in a way that kind of skates along the surface,
or if they absolutely can't get away from it because
everyone's like, oh my god, it's so groundbreaking that Chris
Jenna admitted that she has literally a whole new face,
like she's had that treatment where they go in and
like take every like cell and like move it up
(29:24):
throughout your whole body and face. She had to get
her team to come out and say yes, it was
this doctor in that because there's no way to skate
around that. Did you also see that in that TikTok
comment from Kylie the doctor Brad Fisher, he jumps in
the comments and he's like, oh my god, thanks for
naming me. I lock the shout out. And then Chris
Jenna jumps in and she's like, love you, Brad. You
did my first face lift. So now it's been like
(29:44):
the surgeon who did it is kind of like, you know,
being like the one who delivered your first baby. Yeah,
like they're part of the circle. But I don't think
Christianna would talk about anything else she's had done or
anything else her daughters had done, because it's like you've
got to skate on this acceptable level of plastic surgery.
But the thing is, anytime a celebrity admits to something
like they used to say that had nothing done, and
(30:06):
now they'll like say it's a bit of botox. But
if they've had a bit of botox with they actually
means I have had my full face done. And if they
say the line, yeah, if they say they have filler,
it means I have had like their ears replaced and they've
had a transplant you know what I mean, Like, that's
you've just got to always like times by It's like
when people like say, like how much wine do you
drink a week? And I think your doctor will times
it by ten. Yeah, that's what it is with plastic surgery.
I think that's the new rule. Whatever it is, times
(30:28):
are by ten. WHOA is my kind of thought on that.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So do we think we're on the cusp of now
celebrities admitting to the work they've done, even if it's
just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I think it depends on the celebrity. I think the Kardashians,
they do live in a space that's very curated on
like how they look and their faces sell their products.
I think actresses can kind of get away with it
more to an extent, and they can shy away from that.
So I don't think we'll see like all the actresses,
who again, we all know we're getting these treatments as well.
(30:58):
I don't think they will come out and say it
because it's not their currency. But I think with the Kardashians,
because they work in that space, they're going to start
like bread crumbing little things. And by the time that
Kim Kardashians in her sixties, and she has people fly
to Mars to like grab plasma from like one of
those little pools that they found the fish in to
inject to her face. She'll be like, yeah, I've had
a little botox right here. And I don't blame them
(31:20):
because their looks at their currency and if they don't
look a certain way, as we've seen with Colleie Kardashi,
and they get absolutely ripped apart, not just in Facebook comments,
in music, in TV shows, in comedy and stand up
And I would do that too if I was them,
and if I had the money, I would also buy
a new face. And if I didn't have a needlephobia.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
If you bought a new face, would you tell me I'd.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Come in with a completely new face and you're like,
I'd be like, what do you mean it's just new?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I just overlined my lips.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, no, I've tried that. It doesn't just looks. Just
make it okay, that's the thing. You actually can't make
yourself look like you've had a liptob Like, you just can't.
You've heard it first, You've heard it here first. It
cannot be done. And also again like this doesn't make
me angry Kylie Jenner. Anyway, I actually do think there
was some sort of like camarader really like, yeah, all
(32:09):
the girls in the trenches getting the boot jobs. But
I just think it's going to heighten from here. Oh well,
thank you so much for listening to the Spill today,
and don't forget to follow us on all of our
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(32:31):
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Bye see ya.
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