April 3, 2025 • 25 mins
On the show today, we take you behind the scenes of The Last of Us season two premiere and what we saw the cast get up to during their visit to Australia.
Plus, Apple Martin had given a surprising interview about life with her famous parents, including some quotes about a fancy controversy that continues to follow her.
And Meghan Markle’s new business venture has officially launched, so it’s time for us to brutally review her new products. Plus, a journalist was finally allowed to go into her real kitchen, but there was a catch.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Brodnick and today I'm joined by I'm Cancna luc It
back on the show, chaw Well. We had to get
(00:35):
you back today because we're talking about one of our
I feel like our joint favorite subjects. I feel like
we've been on this journey together for a few weeks.
Megan Michael's new line has officially launched, and she's done
a bit of a tell all interview talking about some
of the bigger controversies around her kitchen, her home. So
we're going to get into that.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Look it's not too in depth, but yes, she did
an interview with The New York Times. We'll get into
it and we'll tell you all about her new lifestyle line.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes, and also one of our favorite NEPO babies, Apple Martin.
She has done a bit of an interesting, in depth
interview and she's talked about some of the viral moments
that we've talked about on this podcast before. Given a
bit of insight into her famous family's life. So we're
going to get into that, but first, a bit of
chaos on the streets of Sydney last night.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm so sorry. I'm so jealous. I've got massive fomo.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Also, you're a big fan of The Last of Us.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I love The Last of Us?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh my god, I love it so much. Do you
like that type of like apocalyptic sort of sci fi ish?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I really enjoy a dystopian series, like anything dystopian. I
loved Walking Dead, but.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I don't know, how have we not talked about this before.
That's like my whole life.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Really, Yeah, I loved Walking Dead and then you know,
Last of Us came out and it was so different
from your typical zombie movie because it followed it after
like it wasn't immediately, it was, you know, a couple
of years, and I just thought it was a really
amazing concept. I am sorry to say that because it's
(02:05):
been so long since the first season, I've kind of
forgotten a lot of what happens, So I need to
go back a rewatch.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I would go into a rewatch because there's so many
like important plot points and things that it has been
a while so it's coming out in like just over
a week. So last night they had the Last of
US Season two premiere in Australia also to celebrate the
launch of Max, which is a new streaming service into Australia,
which is going to have the Last of US Season
two on it. And do you know that like when
they do these big events at the State Theater in Sydney,
(02:32):
So if.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You don't know, the State Theater in Sydney is like
right on Pitt Street just stop pit straight. Mall very
very busy, and when they close off that straight, it
is chaotic.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Absolutely, And you have all these fans, which we talked
a ut before, but I'm always so impressed with all
of these people who come hours and hours before an
event and they line the streets. You know, we saw
it at the Wicked premiere. We saw it challenges that
people wanted to see Zendea and they just stand in
these lines for hours and hours and hours just for
the idea of like a glimpse across the street at
these people they love. And I always just think I
(03:06):
wish I loved anything that much. Like I actually think
it's quite impressive and I feel very sorry for like
them having to stand outside for so long.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Honestly, I went to the Wicked premiere. This is my
little like jump in here. I went to the Wicked
premiere with Camilla. Yeah, yeah, Frank and we were all
at the State Theater. And then this is the funniest thing.
We all had to go out get into cars and
go around the block so that we could get to
the red car.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh yeah, because niche problem guys for us if you
come in the wrong side of that red car but
your life is over, you cannot get in it. And
Sydney trying to get through. So last night they had
that set up and they had the red carpet outside
the State Theater, and because it's a post apocalyptic show,
they had like trash cars and like they'd done all
the greenery and all the sorts of things you have
like in the show. Because it's been so long since
(03:50):
the world shut down, they have like all the buildings
overgrown with like plants and trees and you know, and yeah, exactly,
so their state they're all done up like that. And
what was really interesting is that they had a lot
of the cast, including Bella Ramsey, who's the star of
the show, who plays Ellie there and that was incredible
to see. And when the cast all came in, so
it was like Kaitlin d were in Bella Ramsey and
(04:11):
all the rest of the cast. They came into the
theater and were up on stage, and Bella Ramsey in particular,
they have spoken before about getting it quite overwhelmed at
crowds and things, and as they arrived at the premiere,
that's when the fans were going crazy. So in the theater, Bella,
who plays one of the Lee characters, was saying, like,
what an intense experience it is to have people yell
(04:31):
at them, but they just had to sort of keep
calm and they were like dancing on stage, kind of
just swaying back and forth. I think it's like a
comfort thing, you know, just to kind of feel like
in the moment. And then we did like a Q
and A with the cast, and it was Pedro Pascal's birthday,
who's obviously the other big star of the last No
And that's what the host said on the night, like
(04:52):
it was Pedro's birthday, so he didn't come, and I
was like, God, Pedro. I mean also maybe he was
quite worried about because people love him so much that
he would have been like stalked on the streets of Sydney.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
For four hours the road.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You were one of those people in the crowd affair.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
But yes, he's amazing. But Bella, there's such a talented actor.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Oh incredible.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I think they've.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Done a really beautiful job and I'm really excited to
see season two.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
You saw the first episode.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yes, I did. So. They were up on stage and
it was so funny because it was Pedro's birthday. Bella
got their phone out and were the whole audience saying
Happy birthday to Pedro and filmed it to send to
him and kind of be like, look, it's your birthday,
Astoria saying happy birthday to you, and then the cast left.
And yes, then we saw the first episode of season two,
and I was literally squealing in my chair because I
love this show so much, and I also love I
(05:41):
get really angry when people sort of write off shows
that have any kind of sci fi other worldly element
as being like silly or not important. And I love
how much critical acclaim this show has got because I
think it shows that you can have these like sci fi,
those kind of shows and that they can beat these
critically acclaimed dramas and so many people write them off.
So I love that about it, but I'm obviously not
(06:02):
gonna say too much for spoilers. There is a bit
of a time jump, so like when the time don't
come up and screened from I was like, oh my gosh, like,
we're in a really different part of the story. Now.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Do they give a recap at the beginning of season one?
They do, so if you haven't seen season one in
a while, you could still start and be okay.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would sort of maybe just like
refresh your memory of what happened. But yes, they do.
They start off with a recap of season one, so
that goes through all the big moments, and it also
picks up where season one ended in that moment before
the time jump. If that helps them really trying not
to do any spoilers. Yeah, so you will sort of
get pulled straight back into Oh that's right, we ended
on this huge storytelling moment. Yeah, there was between these
(06:42):
two characters. Yeah, and then it picks up and you know,
you see their life now and you also see like
new threats that are coming in and you get introduced
a bit more to Caitlin Diva's character Abby, who's like
a really important character from the game the show is
based on.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I love her so much. She's Apple Sided Vinegar. I
actually messaged her on Instagram'd you say? I said, you
have the best Austrayian accent that I've ever like, this
is the best to training And she brote back and
said thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh that's so nice of Herdman and Gallant. Oh my god,
I love it was Again. Obviously, I've seen her in
so many other movies, so I know she doesn't have
an Austorian accent. But after watching Apple Side of Vinegar
and then she was up on stage last night and
she's chatting away in a beautiful white gown and her
American accent was just so thick. I was like, Oh,
that's right, And this is such a different role for
(07:28):
her too, because she's kind of just quite scary actually.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Okay, So Last of Us Season two premieres on Max
on April fourteen.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yes, counting down the days. I can't wait to watch
it again.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Nana, Nana.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So today we woke up to a very interesting interview
from Interview magazine and the title of this article is
Vibes Are great. Honestly, let's meet Apple Martin. So if
anyone doesn't know, Apple Martin is the daughter of Gwyneth
Paltrow and Chris Martin. She's in her early twenties now.
I don't know if you remember this, because I was
in high school and when her name was announced, shock
(08:01):
waves around the world.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
She was the original crazy celebrity baby. Yeah, she's just
turned twenty, so she's she's a due and you're in college.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeau.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
She's in her third year of college.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And she's studying law. It's or very fancy Vanderbilt College.
I remember like people being like almost like angry when
her name was announced, like furious. I think now people
would like less bad an eye.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Her name is like very normal comparatively to the names
that are out there now.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Oh one hundred percent. Also in celebrity land, like this
girl isn't living well. She's living more of a normal
life than I would have thought for her. I remember
just after she was born, and again as a kid,
don't know how I remember this, just my memory soaked
things in. When Gwyneth Paltroe went on Oprah Winfrey's show
and she was like Apple and she was like, yeah,
I just heard someone say Apple, and I thought they're
so crisp and clean and healthy and happy. And that's
(08:50):
what I feel like when I look at my daughter,
and I was like, oh, that's kind of nice. Apple
Martin now is. Yeah, she's out in the world. She's
a law student. She's kept very private up until now,
and she's still got a private Instagram and all those
sorts of things that she started dipping her toe in
a few little celebrity moments which she gets into. It's
interesting because in this she's being interviewed by the editor
(09:10):
of Interview magazine, Mel Ottenberg, who chats to her at
first about the fact that she interned with them last
year in Interview Magazine. She did a lot of the
archival kind of restocking and was doing admin and all
that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Good on her, and yeah, her baby, who's putting in
a little bit of work. And I mean, look, we
know that the reason she got that internship.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Was because of her status.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh I'm sure, but I'm really happy to hear that
she still was doing the work. And look, reading this interview,
she does seem just like a regular twenty year old.
She's one hundred percent, absolutely, very very privileged. It doesn't
come off to me in this interview that she doesn't
realize her privilege.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh absolutely, And on her internship. It's funny because in
the interview, which is just a transcript of Mel and
Apple's conversation back and forth, Mel says that he was
quite upset when news of her internship leakes the day
before she started, and he says to her like, I
was worried that your mum, so Gwyneth, who I think
he also has a bit of a relationship. I was
(10:12):
worried that your mom would have thought I would have
leaked that to get a bit of press and a
bit of attention to the magazine. But I did. And
Apple's like very chill about it. She's like, yeah, that
stuff happens. It's interesting because they really set up the
interview as making her out to be this very grounded person,
like before you even read her quotes, they're going in
one particular direction, because it starts off by saying, how
does the daughter of two megastars end up so grounded,
(10:34):
quick witted, and shut. Never mind that her mum built
a wellness empire and her dad fronts one of the
biggest bands on the planet. Apple Martin just had it.
And I think one of the interesting parts in this
and they talk about do you remember that debutante ball? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Look, the thing is, first of all, she's beautiful. Yes,
she's a beautiful young woman.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
She's rich. I don't know what it is about her features.
Like her features just look like if you said to
an AI machine like make you know, a simulation of
a very old world, old money kind of look. She
has that.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
She's got that very and unfortunately she does have that
mean girl look.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
And she does.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah I know it because we're always being conditioned, like
because pop culture always has had that blonde beautiful.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
She's blonde. She's got these beautiful lips, pointy little nose,
delicate features.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And a very stilly look almost like on her face.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
She is a beautiful, beautiful young woman. And look, I
can't comment on this debutante issue. Look, she is one
hundred percent very very privileged girl. Can we judge her
on that? But yet, look, she's scored. These photos are phenomenal.
If you haven't seen the pictures, go and have a look.
I'm like blown away. She's beautiful, but she looks She
(11:47):
talks about the controversy and really touches on the fact
that she has grown up. In her life. She's had
these two parts of her life, one part where she
is like a fish in a fish bowl being photographed
and followed everywhere she goes, and then the other part
where she's a quote unquote normal girl. Yeah, and I
(12:08):
think that this college experience for her is giving her
that normal life. But she still is criticized and talked
about a lot in the media, as we can see,
and I think that's really hard for any twenty year old.
I mean, I wouldn't want people talking about the stuff
that I did when I was twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, exactly. And it's so I actually wanted them to
go a bit more into the controversy around the debutant Ball,
but I did the stand while they kept a light
because they mention it in the kind of setup of
the interview that there was controversy around this debutant ball.
So if you're not across it, it was like a
few months ago now and Apple Martin, along with a
lot of other young, rich, famous woman was like launched
(12:48):
into society this French Ball and it was so fancy
and so over the top, and it's the first time
a lot of people had heard about this particular Debutante
Ball event and because we hadn't seen Apple Martin anything
like this before, and you know, both her parents were
there and like they were all these family photos and
Gwyneth Paltrow was sharing it. It became this huge thing.
But more so than that, there was a video that
(13:09):
went viral after the Debutante Ball And if you saw
this where each girl came out in her beautiful gown
and had her picture taken, and this girl's getting her
picture taken and then Apple Martin comes in behind and
she kind of dances and bobs a bit and walks
in front of her and a few people, including my
co host Emily, who are not here to defend herself.
So I won't get into it. Thinks that she did
it on purpose. I just think she's a bit overtaken
(13:30):
with the moment and didn't quite realize what she was doing.
That went everywhere and everyone's like, oh my god, Apple
Martin is like the ultimate mean girl. She tried to
sabotage this girl.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I think that there's probably a little bit of like
conditioning here where she's so used to people taking photos
of her. Yeah, maybe she just thought it was about her. Then, yeah,
you know what I mean, Like, maybe it's not as
malicious as we think it is. Yeah, it's just like
still child like twenty is not she just turned twenty.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I just think of how I was at twenty, and
I would have just been off the rails with this.
So it's interesting if Ottenburg says, and this melton Berg says,
then the debutante ball was such a big thing, but
you also keep some of the mystery. How do you
do that? And then she said that she grewt with
a really uneven balance of getting out of an airport
with her mum and dad and just being bombarded by
cameras and being a normal kid, but also always having
(14:18):
her photo taken. And this is funny because then she's like,
so I read Discipline and Punished, which is a great book,
but it also talks about the surveillance state. I feel
like I've grown up with that, which is really scary.
It makes me anxious about making mistakes. And then says
that she was always really discouraged from doing anything in
the public eye and she didn't want to be seen
as just this another celebrity child, and she kept that
(14:40):
all her life, and then she ended up saying, fuck it,
I'm not going to be scared. I just want to
do what seems fun and figure my life out.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I mean I think that that is really valid. That's
a valid experience. You a twenty year old girl. I
feel like she definitely has it made. She's got a
lot of privilege. She's a beautiful white woman with very
wealthy parents. Like, she has a lot going Yeah, she's
(15:09):
multiple steps ahead.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, and she comes across so fancy. But there's one
moment in this interview I find her very relatable because
she's talking about going to college and how, you know,
how like we all grow up watching these American movies
at college and like it's frat parties, it's keg parties.
Everyone walks around with those big red cups. It's all crazy.
And she says that she also kind of grew up
watching that and thought that college would be like that,
(15:31):
but it's not at all, Like she hasn't seen a
keg party, poor girl. And she's like, sometimes things happen,
but people are a bit fancier now and no one
parties like that. And also because she's doing law, she's
doing a few things, but she's studying law. She also
talks about the fact that she thought her life was
going to be a bit more el woods, that she
would kind of have that like this just screams to me,
twenty year old, Like, honestly, she's watched so many movies
(15:51):
just like us.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
She's just twenty That is, yeah, one hundred percent what
it's like.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
She's a cutie. I wish her all the best.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, I think little Apple Mum's going to be Okay,
So we'll link the full interview in our show notes
if you want to have a read. But I know,
like neppobooks got a lot of shit, And I also
dislike them when they talk about how hard their lives are.
But I do love them when they just give us
like a little insight into their crazy lives.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
OKAYLB, Now we have one of our favorite topics on
the spell. We have Miss Megan mark.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
All, Duchess of Sussex.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
She has launched her lifestyle line as Ever, which has
sold out on the website. Now as Ever is selling
We're selling jams, which are actually called fruit spreads. There's
some FDA regulations that says she has to call them
a fruit spread. She's got little edible flowers, she's got
beautiful honey, and it's very idyllic. This very like farm
(16:48):
life idyllic.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It's all sold out at the moment. But this line
has taken a lot of people by storm, because I
feel like people are like really hating on it. But
it does seem to have sold that relatively quickly.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I mean, at the end of the day, she's the
winner here, because yeah, she's gotten a lot of hate,
but her Netflix show was watched by so many people,
was commissioned for a second season. She's getting so much
publicity at the moment. And yes, everything she put on
her website sold out within a few minutes. So at
the moment, if you go on to the website, there's
no content on there and there's nothing you can buy
(17:21):
at the moment, But there is a homepage inviting you
to save your seat at the table by subscribing to
their email address. They can mine your data, which is fair. Yeah,
there's a list of everything that's there and it's sold out.
So yeah, the jam sold out in under five minutes.
It was a limited edition wildflower honey with honey cone.
It was twenty eight dollars, which I guess is pricey
for jam, but it's like it's a collector's addition.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Right Yeah, and honey in a honey never goes off.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, so you know, it's actually kind of a bargain.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I'd be scared to eat it if I bought a pot, like,
I would probably have one little taste and I would
just keep it forever.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So, this particular lifestyle brand was initially called American Riviera,
which is what this area of Montesita, California was called before. Like,
that's apparently what the locals call it. Yes, Now she
changed that name to as Ever So on the website,
it's a curated collection has been crafted to elevate your
every day and inspire moments of joy.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It's very idyllic, yes.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Now. Last week, Meghan announced that she was also going
to be hosting a new podcast series called Confessions of
a Female Founder. Now, she did a interview with The
New York Times and the journalist went.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
To her actual house.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So Julia Moskin was the interviewer from the New York
Times went to her actual house in Montecita, California, and
they did an interview together. There are no accompanying images.
But this is kind of the first actual interview we've seen.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
With someone with ever since. I think it was Vanity
Fair when they sent a journalist to her home many
years ago, and she wrote in the article that Megan
was telling her what to write and saying like, I'm
going to make a guttural sound, you should describe that.
So I think since then she's been a big camera
shy and a bit interview shy with these bigger publications.
But also interesting that The New York Times, like they've
pointed out so many times in their article that the
(19:08):
one condition of them sending this journalist over was that
no photos were taken inside or outside the house, because
they kept saying Megan kept saying it's a security concern.
And I get that, Like they've got paparazzi outside their house,
they've got drones everywhere. At their last home, people were
cutting with wires through the fence and like sneaking up
to their windows and stuff. So I understand why she
doesn't want photos, especially like the outside, so you can
(19:30):
find out easier where it is.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
We've all got to be very cautious of our security
these even if you're not a massive absolebrity. These kids
are in line for the throne. But I mean, you'd
start taking photos of your house, people can start mapping
out with me in your home. I don't think that
that is like that bad in terms of like I
just wanting to protect your sty I think that's really okay.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's a security risk. But also I think she knows
that once photos of her home are out, people will
start zooming on every picture. They'll start pricing things, They'll
start sort of mapping out where things have come from
and did they come from an unethical place. It just
opens her up to so much more criticism.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Now, this article, I didn't find it particularly insightful. There
was wasn't really anything new there. It was talking about
some criticisms about her not being relatable. So basically there's
been a lot of criticism about Megan doing this because
you know, you're talking about her wanting to be private. Yeah,
and I understand that criticism. However, her reasoning behind it
(20:28):
is I need to work and I love to work.
So she said that, pointing out until she'd met Harry,
she hadn't been without a job since she was thirteen.
This is how I connect my home life and my work,
and I think that that is reasonable to do. Even
when I see it, it just feels so nothing realistic
about it, which is okay. So if people are looking
(20:48):
for that aspirational content, that's wonderful. So I heard this
person I can't remember who wrote it, but they were
talking about the types of content. I think it was
a social media marketer or something, and was talking about
the types of content that people like to consume depends
on the economic environment. So when the economy is in
a downturn, people want to see relatable content, whereas when
(21:11):
the economy is doing well, people are happy to see
the aspirational content. It's kind of a little bit of
that tool poppy syndrome. Yet it's like, when we're doing
really tough, I don't want to see you living this
perfect life.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
This is pissing me off, exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So I think that that's a little bit. What a
lot of the backlash is is that, you know, we're
going through this massive cost of living crisis and Megan's
talking about buying these artisanal jams and honeys and put
your stuff in different containers, Like it feels really out
of touch for a lot of people. But then I
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think there's also other people that actually just really enjoy
that content. It is a way for them to take
a step back and just take a step out of
their regular lives.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, exactly. I mean I would love more of that.
I would love to see more of her fancy, over
the top life, because that's the form of escapism I
want to see. But I understand why she's too scared
to show it. And at least in this New York
Times article, the journalist did to describe what they saw
at Meghan's house. So we've got a bit of an
idea of this big like kitchen Iyeland that's apparently like
all weather board but still very fancy, and she has
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like all these beautiful cookbooks like Ottolengi and stuff all
around the home, so it's trying to make it really fancy.
I'm interested in her home as sixteen bathrooms that seems
like a lot for five bedrooms. That was the interesting takeaway.
That doesn't seem like a very good use of space,
is all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
But I think a lot of them are probably let
little like there's probably a toilet in the powder rooms.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yes, I know, you know, but sixteen for five bedroom scene.
That's my one note on Meghan Markle's home she didn't
ask for. Also that she has a guesthouse with like
multiple bedrooms and a little cottage on the grounds. I
was like, man, show show us that. It's because she
just knows she's going to get dragged through the mud.
I think where she's tried to be relatable really is
on her as Ever website with the pricing for some
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of these things that you could buy it, and I'm
actually quite sad that they all sold out. I knew
she said it was launching today, but I just didn't
realize everything would sell out so quickly. Otherwise I would
have jumped on and bought some fourteen dollar Create mex
So that's quite you know, fourteen dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Fourteen US dollars I remember, yeah, which is like.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
One hundred and fifteen in Australia right now.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
With the exchange rate, you're looking at probably what twenty bucks.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It's a collector's edition. I could have sold that on
eBay for about two hundred dollars in a year or so.
It looks beautiful, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It's lovely packaging. You know, you've got flower sprinkles, you've got.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Doll flower sprinkles. I know you can buy those. I know,
like Harris Farm down the road for me sells those.
They don't.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
They're definitely not fifteen bucks either, but still, look it's sweet.
It's like get your bag girl whatever exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, the short bread cookie mix that was fourteen dollars
that comes with the flower sprinkles, or you could buy
the flower sprinkles separately for fifteen which seems like not
great marketing, but that's okay. Everything's sold out so quickly,
and she said there's more drops to come, so I
think it's gonna be one of those things where every
time she does these limited drops, it's just going to
completely sell out, which is like quite a lot of
money coming in for that fifteen bathroom house that she's funding.
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So at the end of the day, she's doing quite well.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yes, I don't think there's any do that's just doing
very well. Okay, So just one more thing about this. So,
according to the initial trademark application filed in February of
twenty four to four, as ever, this business will sell
home deco, kitchen items, decanters, and napkin rings, cutlery table
in its placebats and napkins and even cookbooks, so that
is what she trademarked as ever for so we may
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not just be seeing gems and spreads and cookie mixes
like this is probably going to go out into a
whole probably cookwear brand. This is like a math of
Just Stewart two point zero situation.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. The woman is building an empire.
And I think as much as she gets so much
hate online having that TV show and doing these little
drops of small amounts of affordable products, everyone says they
hate Megan Markle, but everyone wants a little bit of
Megan Markle in their home. That's what I've learned today.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Can you imagine if they only did an order of
like one hundred gems and.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's oh my god.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Okay, but that's a strategy. I'm just telling you that's
a marketing strategy, and not that they do small releases
so that people it's ill the highates hype so then
people like, oh god, it's sow that would to buy
it straight away.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay, I'm setting my alarm. Next time, I will not
be a fool again and logne at nine o'clock in
the morning and see that everything's sold out. Next time,
I'm setting an alarm in the middle of the night,
I'm jumping on and I'm buying some flowers proubles.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
If any of our listeners bought anything from as, please
let us know in the comments and send us a
DM like we want to hear from you and bought
us a task.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
For jam Well, thank you so much for listening to
The Spill today, and make sure you tune back into
tomorrow's episode because I don't want to spoil it. It's
going to be a surprise, but we have some very
big names from I'm going to say the biggest TV
show in the world right now, even I'm dramatic. That
doesn't even feel like an exaggeration. Coming on the pod tomorrow,
along with all of our weekend watch recommendations, so stay
(25:43):
tuned for that. And The Spill is produced by Ned
Green with sound production by Scott Stronik. And we'll see
you back here on your podcast feed at three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Bye bye.
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Brodnick and today I'm joined by I'm Cancna luc It
back on the show, chaw Well. We had to get
(00:35):
you back today because we're talking about one of our
I feel like our joint favorite subjects. I feel like
we've been on this journey together for a few weeks.
Megan Michael's new line has officially launched, and she's done
a bit of a tell all interview talking about some
of the bigger controversies around her kitchen, her home. So
we're going to get into that.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Look it's not too in depth, but yes, she did
an interview with The New York Times. We'll get into
it and we'll tell you all about her new lifestyle line.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes, and also one of our favorite NEPO babies, Apple Martin.
She has done a bit of an interesting, in depth
interview and she's talked about some of the viral moments
that we've talked about on this podcast before. Given a
bit of insight into her famous family's life. So we're
going to get into that, but first, a bit of
chaos on the streets of Sydney last night.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm so sorry. I'm so jealous. I've got massive fomo.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Also, you're a big fan of The Last of Us.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I love The Last of Us?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh my god, I love it so much. Do you
like that type of like apocalyptic sort of sci fi ish?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I really enjoy a dystopian series, like anything dystopian. I
loved Walking Dead, but.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I don't know, how have we not talked about this before.
That's like my whole life.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Really, Yeah, I loved Walking Dead and then you know,
Last of Us came out and it was so different
from your typical zombie movie because it followed it after
like it wasn't immediately, it was, you know, a couple
of years, and I just thought it was a really
amazing concept. I am sorry to say that because it's
(02:05):
been so long since the first season, I've kind of
forgotten a lot of what happens, So I need to
go back a rewatch.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I would go into a rewatch because there's so many
like important plot points and things that it has been
a while so it's coming out in like just over
a week. So last night they had the Last of
US Season two premiere in Australia also to celebrate the
launch of Max, which is a new streaming service into Australia,
which is going to have the Last of US Season
two on it. And do you know that like when
they do these big events at the State Theater in Sydney,
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So if.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You don't know, the State Theater in Sydney is like
right on Pitt Street just stop pit straight. Mall very
very busy, and when they close off that straight, it
is chaotic.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Absolutely, And you have all these fans, which we talked
a ut before, but I'm always so impressed with all
of these people who come hours and hours before an
event and they line the streets. You know, we saw
it at the Wicked premiere. We saw it challenges that
people wanted to see Zendea and they just stand in
these lines for hours and hours and hours just for
the idea of like a glimpse across the street at
these people they love. And I always just think I
(03:06):
wish I loved anything that much. Like I actually think
it's quite impressive and I feel very sorry for like
them having to stand outside for so long.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Honestly, I went to the Wicked premiere. This is my
little like jump in here. I went to the Wicked
premiere with Camilla. Yeah, yeah, Frank and we were all
at the State Theater. And then this is the funniest thing.
We all had to go out get into cars and
go around the block so that we could get to
the red car.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh yeah, because niche problem guys for us if you
come in the wrong side of that red car but
your life is over, you cannot get in it. And
Sydney trying to get through. So last night they had
that set up and they had the red carpet outside
the State Theater, and because it's a post apocalyptic show,
they had like trash cars and like they'd done all
the greenery and all the sorts of things you have
like in the show. Because it's been so long since
(03:50):
the world shut down, they have like all the buildings
overgrown with like plants and trees and you know, and yeah, exactly,
so their state they're all done up like that. And
what was really interesting is that they had a lot
of the cast, including Bella Ramsey, who's the star of
the show, who plays Ellie there and that was incredible
to see. And when the cast all came in, so
it was like Kaitlin d were in Bella Ramsey and
(04:11):
all the rest of the cast. They came into the
theater and were up on stage, and Bella Ramsey in particular,
they have spoken before about getting it quite overwhelmed at
crowds and things, and as they arrived at the premiere,
that's when the fans were going crazy. So in the theater, Bella,
who plays one of the Lee characters, was saying, like,
what an intense experience it is to have people yell
(04:31):
at them, but they just had to sort of keep
calm and they were like dancing on stage, kind of
just swaying back and forth. I think it's like a
comfort thing, you know, just to kind of feel like
in the moment. And then we did like a Q
and A with the cast, and it was Pedro Pascal's birthday,
who's obviously the other big star of the last No
And that's what the host said on the night, like
(04:52):
it was Pedro's birthday, so he didn't come, and I
was like, God, Pedro. I mean also maybe he was
quite worried about because people love him so much that
he would have been like stalked on the streets of Sydney.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
For four hours the road.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You were one of those people in the crowd affair.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
But yes, he's amazing. But Bella, there's such a talented actor.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Oh incredible.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I think they've.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Done a really beautiful job and I'm really excited to
see season two.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
You saw the first episode.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yes, I did. So. They were up on stage and
it was so funny because it was Pedro's birthday. Bella
got their phone out and were the whole audience saying
Happy birthday to Pedro and filmed it to send to
him and kind of be like, look, it's your birthday,
Astoria saying happy birthday to you, and then the cast left.
And yes, then we saw the first episode of season two,
and I was literally squealing in my chair because I
love this show so much, and I also love I
(05:41):
get really angry when people sort of write off shows
that have any kind of sci fi other worldly element
as being like silly or not important. And I love
how much critical acclaim this show has got because I
think it shows that you can have these like sci fi,
those kind of shows and that they can beat these
critically acclaimed dramas and so many people write them off.
So I love that about it, but I'm obviously not
(06:02):
gonna say too much for spoilers. There is a bit
of a time jump, so like when the time don't
come up and screened from I was like, oh my gosh, like,
we're in a really different part of the story. Now.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Do they give a recap at the beginning of season one?
They do, so if you haven't seen season one in
a while, you could still start and be okay.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would sort of maybe just like
refresh your memory of what happened. But yes, they do.
They start off with a recap of season one, so
that goes through all the big moments, and it also
picks up where season one ended in that moment before
the time jump. If that helps them really trying not
to do any spoilers. Yeah, so you will sort of
get pulled straight back into Oh that's right, we ended
on this huge storytelling moment. Yeah, there was between these
(06:42):
two characters. Yeah, and then it picks up and you know,
you see their life now and you also see like
new threats that are coming in and you get introduced
a bit more to Caitlin Diva's character Abby, who's like
a really important character from the game the show is
based on.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I love her so much. She's Apple Sided Vinegar. I
actually messaged her on Instagram'd you say? I said, you
have the best Austrayian accent that I've ever like, this
is the best to training And she brote back and
said thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh that's so nice of Herdman and Gallant. Oh my god,
I love it was Again. Obviously, I've seen her in
so many other movies, so I know she doesn't have
an Austorian accent. But after watching Apple Side of Vinegar
and then she was up on stage last night and
she's chatting away in a beautiful white gown and her
American accent was just so thick. I was like, Oh,
that's right, And this is such a different role for
(07:28):
her too, because she's kind of just quite scary actually.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Okay, So Last of Us Season two premieres on Max
on April fourteen.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yes, counting down the days. I can't wait to watch
it again.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Nana, Nana.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So today we woke up to a very interesting interview
from Interview magazine and the title of this article is
Vibes Are great. Honestly, let's meet Apple Martin. So if
anyone doesn't know, Apple Martin is the daughter of Gwyneth
Paltrow and Chris Martin. She's in her early twenties now.
I don't know if you remember this, because I was
in high school and when her name was announced, shock
(08:01):
waves around the world.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
She was the original crazy celebrity baby. Yeah, she's just
turned twenty, so she's she's a due and you're in college.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeau.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
She's in her third year of college.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And she's studying law. It's or very fancy Vanderbilt College.
I remember like people being like almost like angry when
her name was announced, like furious. I think now people
would like less bad an eye.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Her name is like very normal comparatively to the names
that are out there now.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Oh one hundred percent. Also in celebrity land, like this
girl isn't living well. She's living more of a normal
life than I would have thought for her. I remember
just after she was born, and again as a kid,
don't know how I remember this, just my memory soaked
things in. When Gwyneth Paltroe went on Oprah Winfrey's show
and she was like Apple and she was like, yeah,
I just heard someone say Apple, and I thought they're
so crisp and clean and healthy and happy. And that's
(08:50):
what I feel like when I look at my daughter,
and I was like, oh, that's kind of nice. Apple
Martin now is. Yeah, she's out in the world. She's
a law student. She's kept very private up until now,
and she's still got a private Instagram and all those
sorts of things that she started dipping her toe in
a few little celebrity moments which she gets into. It's
interesting because in this she's being interviewed by the editor
(09:10):
of Interview magazine, Mel Ottenberg, who chats to her at
first about the fact that she interned with them last
year in Interview Magazine. She did a lot of the
archival kind of restocking and was doing admin and all
that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Good on her, and yeah, her baby, who's putting in
a little bit of work. And I mean, look, we
know that the reason she got that internship.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Was because of her status.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh I'm sure, but I'm really happy to hear that
she still was doing the work. And look, reading this interview,
she does seem just like a regular twenty year old.
She's one hundred percent, absolutely, very very privileged. It doesn't
come off to me in this interview that she doesn't
realize her privilege.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh absolutely, And on her internship. It's funny because in
the interview, which is just a transcript of Mel and
Apple's conversation back and forth, Mel says that he was
quite upset when news of her internship leakes the day
before she started, and he says to her like, I
was worried that your mum, so Gwyneth, who I think
he also has a bit of a relationship. I was
(10:12):
worried that your mom would have thought I would have
leaked that to get a bit of press and a
bit of attention to the magazine. But I did. And
Apple's like very chill about it. She's like, yeah, that
stuff happens. It's interesting because they really set up the
interview as making her out to be this very grounded person,
like before you even read her quotes, they're going in
one particular direction, because it starts off by saying, how
does the daughter of two megastars end up so grounded,
(10:34):
quick witted, and shut. Never mind that her mum built
a wellness empire and her dad fronts one of the
biggest bands on the planet. Apple Martin just had it.
And I think one of the interesting parts in this
and they talk about do you remember that debutante ball? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Look, the thing is, first of all, she's beautiful. Yes,
she's a beautiful young woman.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
She's rich. I don't know what it is about her features.
Like her features just look like if you said to
an AI machine like make you know, a simulation of
a very old world, old money kind of look. She
has that.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
She's got that very and unfortunately she does have that
mean girl look.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
And she does.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah I know it because we're always being conditioned, like
because pop culture always has had that blonde beautiful.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
She's blonde. She's got these beautiful lips, pointy little nose,
delicate features.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And a very stilly look almost like on her face.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
She is a beautiful, beautiful young woman. And look, I
can't comment on this debutante issue. Look, she is one
hundred percent very very privileged girl. Can we judge her
on that? But yet, look, she's scored. These photos are phenomenal.
If you haven't seen the pictures, go and have a look.
I'm like blown away. She's beautiful, but she looks She
(11:47):
talks about the controversy and really touches on the fact
that she has grown up. In her life. She's had
these two parts of her life, one part where she
is like a fish in a fish bowl being photographed
and followed everywhere she goes, and then the other part
where she's a quote unquote normal girl. Yeah, and I
(12:08):
think that this college experience for her is giving her
that normal life. But she still is criticized and talked
about a lot in the media, as we can see,
and I think that's really hard for any twenty year old.
I mean, I wouldn't want people talking about the stuff
that I did when I was twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, exactly. And it's so I actually wanted them to
go a bit more into the controversy around the debutant Ball,
but I did the stand while they kept a light
because they mention it in the kind of setup of
the interview that there was controversy around this debutant ball.
So if you're not across it, it was like a
few months ago now and Apple Martin, along with a
lot of other young, rich, famous woman was like launched
(12:48):
into society this French Ball and it was so fancy
and so over the top, and it's the first time
a lot of people had heard about this particular Debutante
Ball event and because we hadn't seen Apple Martin anything
like this before, and you know, both her parents were
there and like they were all these family photos and
Gwyneth Paltrow was sharing it. It became this huge thing.
But more so than that, there was a video that
(13:09):
went viral after the Debutante Ball And if you saw
this where each girl came out in her beautiful gown
and had her picture taken, and this girl's getting her
picture taken and then Apple Martin comes in behind and
she kind of dances and bobs a bit and walks
in front of her and a few people, including my
co host Emily, who are not here to defend herself.
So I won't get into it. Thinks that she did
it on purpose. I just think she's a bit overtaken
(13:30):
with the moment and didn't quite realize what she was doing.
That went everywhere and everyone's like, oh my god, Apple
Martin is like the ultimate mean girl. She tried to
sabotage this girl.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I think that there's probably a little bit of like
conditioning here where she's so used to people taking photos
of her. Yeah, maybe she just thought it was about her. Then, yeah,
you know what I mean, Like, maybe it's not as
malicious as we think it is. Yeah, it's just like
still child like twenty is not she just turned twenty.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I just think of how I was at twenty, and
I would have just been off the rails with this.
So it's interesting if Ottenburg says, and this melton Berg says,
then the debutante ball was such a big thing, but
you also keep some of the mystery. How do you
do that? And then she said that she grewt with
a really uneven balance of getting out of an airport
with her mum and dad and just being bombarded by
cameras and being a normal kid, but also always having
(14:18):
her photo taken. And this is funny because then she's like,
so I read Discipline and Punished, which is a great book,
but it also talks about the surveillance state. I feel
like I've grown up with that, which is really scary.
It makes me anxious about making mistakes. And then says
that she was always really discouraged from doing anything in
the public eye and she didn't want to be seen
as just this another celebrity child, and she kept that
(14:40):
all her life, and then she ended up saying, fuck it,
I'm not going to be scared. I just want to
do what seems fun and figure my life out.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I mean I think that that is really valid. That's
a valid experience. You a twenty year old girl. I
feel like she definitely has it made. She's got a
lot of privilege. She's a beautiful white woman with very
wealthy parents. Like, she has a lot going Yeah, she's
(15:09):
multiple steps ahead.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, and she comes across so fancy. But there's one
moment in this interview I find her very relatable because
she's talking about going to college and how, you know,
how like we all grow up watching these American movies
at college and like it's frat parties, it's keg parties.
Everyone walks around with those big red cups. It's all crazy.
And she says that she also kind of grew up
watching that and thought that college would be like that,
(15:31):
but it's not at all, Like she hasn't seen a
keg party, poor girl. And she's like, sometimes things happen,
but people are a bit fancier now and no one
parties like that. And also because she's doing law, she's
doing a few things, but she's studying law. She also
talks about the fact that she thought her life was
going to be a bit more el woods, that she
would kind of have that like this just screams to me,
twenty year old, Like, honestly, she's watched so many movies
(15:51):
just like us.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
She's just twenty That is, yeah, one hundred percent what
it's like.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
She's a cutie. I wish her all the best.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, I think little Apple Mum's going to be Okay,
So we'll link the full interview in our show notes
if you want to have a read. But I know,
like neppobooks got a lot of shit, And I also
dislike them when they talk about how hard their lives are.
But I do love them when they just give us
like a little insight into their crazy lives.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
OKAYLB, Now we have one of our favorite topics on
the spell. We have Miss Megan mark.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
All, Duchess of Sussex.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
She has launched her lifestyle line as Ever, which has
sold out on the website. Now as Ever is selling
We're selling jams, which are actually called fruit spreads. There's
some FDA regulations that says she has to call them
a fruit spread. She's got little edible flowers, she's got
beautiful honey, and it's very idyllic. This very like farm
(16:48):
life idyllic.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It's all sold out at the moment. But this line
has taken a lot of people by storm, because I
feel like people are like really hating on it. But
it does seem to have sold that relatively quickly.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I mean, at the end of the day, she's the
winner here, because yeah, she's gotten a lot of hate,
but her Netflix show was watched by so many people,
was commissioned for a second season. She's getting so much
publicity at the moment. And yes, everything she put on
her website sold out within a few minutes. So at
the moment, if you go on to the website, there's
no content on there and there's nothing you can buy
(17:21):
at the moment, But there is a homepage inviting you
to save your seat at the table by subscribing to
their email address. They can mine your data, which is fair. Yeah,
there's a list of everything that's there and it's sold out.
So yeah, the jam sold out in under five minutes.
It was a limited edition wildflower honey with honey cone.
It was twenty eight dollars, which I guess is pricey
for jam, but it's like it's a collector's addition.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Right Yeah, and honey in a honey never goes off.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, so you know, it's actually kind of a bargain.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I'd be scared to eat it if I bought a pot, like,
I would probably have one little taste and I would
just keep it forever.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So, this particular lifestyle brand was initially called American Riviera,
which is what this area of Montesita, California was called before. Like,
that's apparently what the locals call it. Yes, Now she
changed that name to as Ever So on the website,
it's a curated collection has been crafted to elevate your
every day and inspire moments of joy.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It's very idyllic, yes.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Now. Last week, Meghan announced that she was also going
to be hosting a new podcast series called Confessions of
a Female Founder. Now, she did a interview with The
New York Times and the journalist went.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
To her actual house.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So Julia Moskin was the interviewer from the New York
Times went to her actual house in Montecita, California, and
they did an interview together. There are no accompanying images.
But this is kind of the first actual interview we've seen.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
With someone with ever since. I think it was Vanity
Fair when they sent a journalist to her home many
years ago, and she wrote in the article that Megan
was telling her what to write and saying like, I'm
going to make a guttural sound, you should describe that.
So I think since then she's been a big camera
shy and a bit interview shy with these bigger publications.
But also interesting that The New York Times, like they've
pointed out so many times in their article that the
(19:08):
one condition of them sending this journalist over was that
no photos were taken inside or outside the house, because
they kept saying Megan kept saying it's a security concern.
And I get that, Like they've got paparazzi outside their house,
they've got drones everywhere. At their last home, people were
cutting with wires through the fence and like sneaking up
to their windows and stuff. So I understand why she
doesn't want photos, especially like the outside, so you can
(19:30):
find out easier where it is.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
We've all got to be very cautious of our security
these even if you're not a massive absolebrity. These kids
are in line for the throne. But I mean, you'd
start taking photos of your house, people can start mapping
out with me in your home. I don't think that
that is like that bad in terms of like I
just wanting to protect your sty I think that's really okay.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's a security risk. But also I think she knows
that once photos of her home are out, people will
start zooming on every picture. They'll start pricing things, They'll
start sort of mapping out where things have come from
and did they come from an unethical place. It just
opens her up to so much more criticism.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Now, this article, I didn't find it particularly insightful. There
was wasn't really anything new there. It was talking about
some criticisms about her not being relatable. So basically there's
been a lot of criticism about Megan doing this because
you know, you're talking about her wanting to be private. Yeah,
and I understand that criticism. However, her reasoning behind it
(20:28):
is I need to work and I love to work.
So she said that, pointing out until she'd met Harry,
she hadn't been without a job since she was thirteen.
This is how I connect my home life and my work,
and I think that that is reasonable to do. Even
when I see it, it just feels so nothing realistic
about it, which is okay. So if people are looking
(20:48):
for that aspirational content, that's wonderful. So I heard this
person I can't remember who wrote it, but they were
talking about the types of content. I think it was
a social media marketer or something, and was talking about
the types of content that people like to consume depends
on the economic environment. So when the economy is in
a downturn, people want to see relatable content, whereas when
(21:11):
the economy is doing well, people are happy to see
the aspirational content. It's kind of a little bit of
that tool poppy syndrome. Yet it's like, when we're doing
really tough, I don't want to see you living this
perfect life.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
This is pissing me off, exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So I think that that's a little bit. What a
lot of the backlash is is that, you know, we're
going through this massive cost of living crisis and Megan's
talking about buying these artisanal jams and honeys and put
your stuff in different containers, Like it feels really out
of touch for a lot of people. But then I
(21:44):
think there's also other people that actually just really enjoy
that content. It is a way for them to take
a step back and just take a step out of
their regular lives.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, exactly. I mean I would love more of that.
I would love to see more of her fancy, over
the top life, because that's the form of escapism I
want to see. But I understand why she's too scared
to show it. And at least in this New York
Times article, the journalist did to describe what they saw
at Meghan's house. So we've got a bit of an
idea of this big like kitchen Iyeland that's apparently like
all weather board but still very fancy, and she has
(22:13):
like all these beautiful cookbooks like Ottolengi and stuff all
around the home, so it's trying to make it really fancy.
I'm interested in her home as sixteen bathrooms that seems
like a lot for five bedrooms. That was the interesting takeaway.
That doesn't seem like a very good use of space,
is all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
But I think a lot of them are probably let
little like there's probably a toilet in the powder rooms.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yes, I know, you know, but sixteen for five bedroom scene.
That's my one note on Meghan Markle's home she didn't
ask for. Also that she has a guesthouse with like
multiple bedrooms and a little cottage on the grounds. I
was like, man, show show us that. It's because she
just knows she's going to get dragged through the mud.
I think where she's tried to be relatable really is
on her as Ever website with the pricing for some
(22:54):
of these things that you could buy it, and I'm
actually quite sad that they all sold out. I knew
she said it was launching today, but I just didn't
realize everything would sell out so quickly. Otherwise I would
have jumped on and bought some fourteen dollar Create mex
So that's quite you know, fourteen dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Fourteen US dollars I remember, yeah, which is like.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
One hundred and fifteen in Australia right now.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
With the exchange rate, you're looking at probably what twenty bucks.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It's a collector's edition. I could have sold that on
eBay for about two hundred dollars in a year or so.
It looks beautiful, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It's lovely packaging. You know, you've got flower sprinkles, you've got.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Doll flower sprinkles. I know you can buy those. I know,
like Harris Farm down the road for me sells those.
They don't.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
They're definitely not fifteen bucks either, but still, look it's sweet.
It's like get your bag girl whatever exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, the short bread cookie mix that was fourteen dollars
that comes with the flower sprinkles, or you could buy
the flower sprinkles separately for fifteen which seems like not
great marketing, but that's okay. Everything's sold out so quickly,
and she said there's more drops to come, so I
think it's gonna be one of those things where every
time she does these limited drops, it's just going to
completely sell out, which is like quite a lot of
money coming in for that fifteen bathroom house that she's funding.
(23:56):
So at the end of the day, she's doing quite well.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yes, I don't think there's any do that's just doing
very well. Okay, So just one more thing about this. So,
according to the initial trademark application filed in February of
twenty four to four, as ever, this business will sell
home deco, kitchen items, decanters, and napkin rings, cutlery table
in its placebats and napkins and even cookbooks, so that
is what she trademarked as ever for so we may
(24:21):
not just be seeing gems and spreads and cookie mixes
like this is probably going to go out into a
whole probably cookwear brand. This is like a math of
Just Stewart two point zero situation.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. The woman is building an empire.
And I think as much as she gets so much
hate online having that TV show and doing these little
drops of small amounts of affordable products, everyone says they
hate Megan Markle, but everyone wants a little bit of
Megan Markle in their home. That's what I've learned today.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Can you imagine if they only did an order of
like one hundred gems and.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's oh my god.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Okay, but that's a strategy. I'm just telling you that's
a marketing strategy, and not that they do small releases
so that people it's ill the highates hype so then
people like, oh god, it's sow that would to buy
it straight away.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay, I'm setting my alarm. Next time, I will not
be a fool again and logne at nine o'clock in
the morning and see that everything's sold out. Next time,
I'm setting an alarm in the middle of the night,
I'm jumping on and I'm buying some flowers proubles.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
If any of our listeners bought anything from as, please
let us know in the comments and send us a
DM like we want to hear from you and bought
us a task.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
For jam Well, thank you so much for listening to
The Spill today, and make sure you tune back into
tomorrow's episode because I don't want to spoil it. It's
going to be a surprise, but we have some very
big names from I'm going to say the biggest TV
show in the world right now, even I'm dramatic. That
doesn't even feel like an exaggeration. Coming on the pod tomorrow,
along with all of our weekend watch recommendations, so stay
(25:43):
tuned for that. And The Spill is produced by Ned
Green with sound production by Scott Stronik. And we'll see
you back here on your podcast feed at three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Bye bye.
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