August 6, 2025 • 30 mins
From the classics that shaped our childhoods to the bangers of the Disney Renaissance (don’t worry, we explain what that is), this episode is our ultimate Disney rewatch list.
Laura and Ksenija unpack their most beloved Disney movies, the songs that still hit, and the deeply personal memories attached to them.
There’s nostalgia, there’s strong opinions, and even though she swore she wouldn’t... Laura picks her all-time favourite. If you’ve ever cried over a cartoon or belted out “I’ll Make a Man Out of You” in the car, this one’s for you.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
From Mom and Maya. Welcome to the Spill your daily
pop culture fix. I'm cassemiel Luki and I'm Laura Brodnick,
and we have a very very exciting episode today to
celebrate seventy years of Disneyland Resort Magic, and it's going
to be all about Disney and I'm very excited. Laura's
very excited, and we're not ashamed to say that we
(00:45):
are Disney adults.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yes, well, I mean, there's no wrong way to be
a Disney adult. But the way I identify as a
Disney adult is that I watched the Disney movies constantly
on a loop and with no children present, and I
listen to the Disney soundtracks over and over and over again.
And I love to go to Disneyland.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Okay, so my very first experience at Disneyland, I never
went as a kid. I've only been one time, and
it was always a dream of mine growing up. And
when I was twenty one and I went to the States,
I said to my girlfriend, I was like, I really
really wanted to go to disney They just like, I've
been so many times, I don't really want to go.
And then the boy that we were hanging out with said,
(01:21):
I'll take you. So I went on a first date
to Disney.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It was the most romantic thing I have ever heard, and.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
We kissed under the fire Oh okay, those fireworks should
be borderline illegal, because if you've been in a Disneyland park,
the fireworks at the end of the night, if anyone
asked me to marry them, no one has yet, but if.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Anyone did, I would say yes, even a total stranger.
There's no more romantic moment. Obviously, going because a kid
is so amazing, but going as an adult for the
first time, because I did the same thing. Like, there
was no way my mum could afford to take four
kids to Disneyland, so I saved up all my money
from my first job and I went to the one
in Tokyo, and I remember just getting off the subway
platform and hearing Taylor's old at time and I just
(01:59):
heard a running because I'm like, I'm home and me.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It was so magical. It's like the best first date ever.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Sorry, Dan, Yeah, because you didn't end up marrying that guy,
which I feel like is a mistake on your behalf.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, nope, this is the thing. Like Dan and I
were on a break like very rosso and Rachel and
it was just like I only saw this guy for
like two seconds. It was very quick, but it was
a really romantic date.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I really wanted to have someone that you've just had
one perfect date with and it just sits as this
little like perfect moment real life.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, very special to me. So what we're going to
do is we to talk about our favorite Disney movies,
and we're gonna mostly talk about like your Disney classics.
So it's not going to be like Frozen or Tangled
or any of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I just love those. But Love would be here for
six to seven hours, which to say, we both asked
if we could do a podcast marathon for ten hours.
That was vetoed and I.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Want to quickly just do a very quick history lesson.
So we've got our Golden Age, which is like when
it first started. So we've got nineteen thirty seven Snow White,
first full length feature film. We all know that that's
the story. We've got like Sleeping Beauty, which is in
like fifty nine. Then there was like when Walt died
in nineteen sixty six, it was kind of like this
big lull in the production and it was very very
(03:07):
close to closing the studio. Then that magic happened, which
is the Renaissance of Disney, which is, as many millennials
will know, like the peak of Disney, which is like
eighty nine to ninety nine. And that's kind of mostly
what we're going to be focusing on, yes, today, So Laura,
do you want to go first?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yes, because actually I'm taking us right back to the beginning,
as you mentioned, with the very first big Disney movie,
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. So that movie came
out in nineteen thirty seven. I wasn't currently alive at
that time. Can you believe.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It's beautiful for being I did this.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
It's the magic of Disney. It's kept me young in
like a wicked which kind of way. But I just
have just a visceral memory of watching that movie as
a kid and how freaking magical it was and the animation.
And I know some people look back on it now
and like, obviously the animation isn't as high tech as
what we see now, but that was the movie, as
you're saying, that started at all. And I just love
the idea that Walt Disney wanted to make this big
(04:06):
animated movie that could play in cinemas, that could stand
up to like an action movie or something, you know
what I mean, and like that adults would want to
see it at the same time as kids. And everyone
said it couldn't be done. No one's going to see that,
it's not going to make any money, and then it
became such a success, such a box office hit, made
so much money, and every movie that we have now
(04:26):
is because of that. But I also think it's just
a very sweet, lovely movie and also quite terrifying. Like
don't you think the Witch in that movie is one
of the scariest Disney villains.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Some of them are very very scary, And now that
I watched some of the original movies with my kids,
I'm like, ah, this is actually terrifying.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
When she runs through the woods from the Huntsman, that's
what I mean. Disney movies High Stakes runs through the
woods and she falls through all of the trees and
the storm and everything. And then also when the Wicked
Queen changes.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
When she's like the Wicked Queen and she chas the
old lady and she comes to the window.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
That is even from the live action with Rachel Zegel,
when you see the witch slowly walking up towards the
little cottage, I was like, that is the scariest scene
of a movie this year.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I think goes to show that practical effects always better
than any kind of cgi stuff. And I also think
the original Disney songs are just really beautiful, like whistle
while you work. Some day my Prince will come really sweet.
And also I think a lot of people don't like
that the Prince doesn't get a lot of airtime in
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. Like you see him
briefly at the start, he comes along at the end
he kisses her and that's it. And I actually think
(05:32):
that's great, let's decentiment from our lives. But I think it.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Also he was the original Prince Charming, Like this is
the first time we got that trope right. That really
wasn't That wasn't the thing. Speaking of which, yes, my wine, Okay,
sleeping Beauty, which I know is also.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Oh my god, I love Sleeping Beauty, even though Princess
of Rora has what is it? Three minutes of dialogue
all up? It's great, she looks great.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's amazing that and with the fairies and the changing
red blue, red blue, that was just and the cake scene.
But the thing that makes me the most nostalgic about
that movie is in the mornings, my dad used to
wake me up with the once upon a dream?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, ah know you why walk with you want far
on a dream. That's a big song in my family
as well. My sister's and I sing it all the time.
And my brother always pretends that he doesn't love Disney
movies as much as we do. But one day my
sister was singing in her room and the bit where
the prince comes in, my brother burst through the door
and sung through the whole thing. We still reference it
(06:32):
to this day. That's a banger of a song.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's a beautiful song and it just like makes me like, yeah,
it's just like for a special from me. It makes
me think of home and the red make it blue,
make it pink, make it blue? And the cake like
have you said people make those cakes for their wedding cake?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yes, that's what everyone should have at their wedding.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I loved that and the booms. It was just it's
a really good like that was kind of the first.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Introduction and also high stakes if we're getting into the
storytelling side of it, because you have some Disney movies,
you're just like, oh, this is gonna be fine. But
I think watching Sleeping Beauty as a kid, like the
danger feels real. So Maleficent was scary, great villain villain,
and how like every Disney villain has the lime green
around to signify that they're the evil one. That moment
where she turns into the dragon and she comes up
(07:18):
and just great and very romantic dance at the end.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Okay, oh my god. It was so hard to pick
just a few movies. Can I tell you, Out of
every huge work thing I've got to do this week,
this is the most difficult.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
When it was mentioned that we were doing this, I
said that if I wasn't going to be on this
episode that I would revolt.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I'm like, so, I just you just smashing the door out.
I would love to see that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Like, I was like, I need to be in the
Disney this episode, particularly because it's come back into my
life in such a big way now that my kids
are old enough to be watching so cute. But what
is your now that we're entering three salts periods?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Well, yes, it's good that you bring up because this
movie is credited with kicking off the Disney renaissance. So
as a child, you know, that was the thing. I
just thought Disney had banger after banger after banger, but
this was like the next big swell of animation. And
it is The Little Mermaid, which came out in nineteen
eighty nine, and I think something about that movie even
to this day. When I watched, I get a chill.
(08:18):
It's so magical and otherworldly and action sequences great, and
I also just love how they were able to take
a story that was so dark and so like brutal.
You know, do you know the real story of The
Little Mermaid? Yeah, if anyone who hasn't read the original book,
which I had to read the book as a kid,
(08:38):
and I was just like, what where she gets her
legs from the Sea Witch, But when she's on Earth,
it's like she's walking on knives, so every step hurts,
and she doesn't get the Prince to fall in love
with her, and the Sea Witch she's like, well, you're
going to die unless you stab him in the heart
with this dagger. And she goes to do it when
he and his new wife are in bed, and then
she's like, I can't do it because she's a good person.
(09:00):
She's a little mermaid, and so the whole threat is
that when she dies. And I think about this every
time I go to the beach. If a mermaid dies,
they become the foam on the ocean waves, part of
the ocean, but like not really part of it. So
think about that next time you and your kids are
at the beach and tell them what that foam is.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And King Triton is babe.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, in the original in the movie, but then also
the original story, her sisters find a way to like
kind of save her soul and stuff. That's nice. So
the Disney movie different vibe, But yeah, I loved everything
about it. Like, so I feel like you actually get
to watch her and Eric fall in love. Yeah, I
feel like Sebastian's a great character, part of your world.
One of the most beautiful songs every know.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
The people some of.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
My questions and get some answers, what's the fire and
what's the word.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Such a banger of a song, so the original singer
when she was in the little sound booth trying to
record that, it was like all lit up, obviously it is,
and all the musicians were there and all the tech
were there, and she just couldn't get it. She had
to end up like getting them to shut it off,
black it out, and she like sung with her head down.
She's like, I need to feel like I'm in this
underwater caven. I used to feel like I'm in darkness
and I'm picturing a world that I'm not part of,
(10:15):
and I can't do that with the light. So I
always think of that story when I watch it. Also,
I think Ursula might be my favorite villain.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Love her right.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I love her as a kid, horrified.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
She's such a diva.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I have a lot more respect for her now as
an adult. I was like, you were just a working
woman and a man like took your crown and you
were just trying to figure it out with his brady daughter.
So I see her side of it now. Well, there's
two scenes where she's terrifying. One is where she pulls
herself up into the ship and she pulls herself along
really quickly with her hands. Sorry, that's not a kid's movie.
And then when she becomes like the giant giant, she
(10:50):
rises up above the seat, terrifying.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But and Poor Unfortunate Souls is a great villain song.
I know that there's a little bit of like criticism
about it on reflection because Ariel can't speak, and there's
the whole kiss the girl. Yeah, it's like they changed
the lyric. Yeah, because you know, I know she doesn't
look like she wants it, but she does. Like it
(11:13):
was like this whole consent thing. But it's okay for
us to enjoy things in the moment. And that beautiful
scene you know where they're going through the willows and
you know, the brushing the hair with the fork. That's
just like so many classics.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
To stay every time. And where somewhere now where I
think there could be a Mermaid, I do have a
look because part of me does still think that could happen.
I feel like you actually see her and Eric fall
in love. Yeah, and that's what I'm looking for now
my Disney stories. I'm looking for a love story that
I feel involved in. So Little Mermaid such a banger.
That scene where you see the castle for the first time. Yeah, well,
(11:51):
I cry in the pod. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Maybe yeah, And also I do think that and I
know I said this before, but King Tridon is like
original day.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, he's so hot and he's only getting hot. I
guess this is appropriate. He's only getting hotter.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
All the absolutely.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'm like, damn, and have you seen the Little Mermaid
movies that come, like the prequel series where he's like
a young hot trident hot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Now we're not going to talk about The Lion King
only because everybody loves The Lion King. We know it's
a wonderful movie. It's like the highest grossing.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's not my top five for me, it is like,
oh really, okay, I would say it is probably.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
One of the ones that I watched the most. It's
the most popular one. Oh yeah, for a reason.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Oh yeah, no, I do like it, but it wouldn't
be on my own gunning top five.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
The other one that I know is also really basic,
but is better basic movies. Here is the one that
I watched the most as a kid because I had
the VHS. If you don't know what VHTS tape is,
it's a square little thing that you put in and
you used to have to rewind it. I don't know
how many gen Z listeners we have, but VHS tapes Aladdin.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh my god, I love Aladdin. I know I've said
that about every movie. I remember. I saved up all
my birthday money to buy that VHS tape one year
and sorry, every point of that story is incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So, nineteen ninety two Aladdin came out and the and
I think this movie did so well. It was the
first time that Disney used a big celebrity voice for
the cast. Before then, they were kind of known, but
not known.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Voice after a lot of Broadway stars singing voice. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So Robin Williams obviously was the big star of this
and that's the first time they did this, and it
is now probably one of the most common things that
Disney movies do now is they use the big names
to draw people in. Yeah, and so this is the
first time it happened. So Robin Williams, sixteen.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Hours of uh, I would believe it.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I would too. And what I wouldn't give to be
in that room. Sixteen hours of improvised content, a lot
of which they couldn't use it.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
A Disney release the tapes, Disney release, the release the tape.
I want to see them.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I know again there's the story of Robin Williams
getting quite upset because there were some merchandising issues with
the sort of head of Disney at the time, but
that kind of all got resolved in like the mid nineties,
so we can still enjoy that. But you know, for
so many people, particularly people of our age, that was
like our introduction to Robyn Williams as this comedic star.
(14:25):
And the also I feel like it was one of
the first Disney movies to introduce adult humor that would
go over kids' heads.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, the scene where he goes into a brothel. Yeah,
didn't get that as a kid, probably only got it recently,
like last week now. I picked it up all.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Those like Jack Nicholson like impressions, like all of that,
And then I don't know if you've picked up on
the like Sebastian coming out of the book. There's scar
you know how the Sultan is building the tower. Yeah yeah,
if you look very close to the scar is there.
And the Lion King hadn't even come out yet.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
The way they've started like peppering little bits and pieces
hid in movies is yeah, is yeah. So incredible. But yeah,
I know they made a lot of script changes around
like how Jasmine and Ladden would meet and like, yeah,
well they're done, would be even like change like who
Aladdin's Psyekick was going to be and all this sort
of stuff, But like the end result of where they landed,
I feel like is the perfect kind of like progression
(15:20):
of a love story like that. We're also making her
a lot of the Disney princesses had like a lot
of agency and like their own person even in those
really early days. But I think Judsmine in particular with
the whole like not wanting to settle for a husband
and stuff. Doesn't seem revolutionary now, but like back then
for a kids animated movie that was princess centered was huge.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah. Well, the fact that she walks in on you know,
Sultan Jafar and Aladdin all talking and she's like, you
think you could do this, and like just just the
way she did that, there was a lot of sort
of strength in that. And Prince Ali one of the
best songs of all time.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Every Sally Strong as ten Regular Men, definitelys.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And same with the Whole New World one of the
best songs of all time. This is what I always
said people when they give me shit for listening to
because I listened to Disney songs pretty much every day,
at least multiple times a week. It's my main playlist.
And it's not because there's like this regression to childhood.
It's because the people who made those songs are the
best composers, the best lyricists, the best singers at the
time on those projects. So just because they're Disney movies
(16:29):
doesn't mean those songs aren't as good as like a
traditional Broadway song.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Well, and we know, I mean, if you know anything
about like Disney history, you know that the speaking voice
of Jasmine is not the singing voice. Yes, so Leah Salonga,
who is probably one of the most iconic Disney women
of all time. She also sang in Mulan. It just
has the most perfect Disney princess voice. I just think
(16:56):
it was such a beautiful. A Whole New World was
so amazing. Now I can't remember his name, but the
gentleman who sung for Aladdin, apparently when they were recording
A Whole New World they were like falling in love,
oh my years' and they dated afterwards.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Sorry, if you're singing that song, especially the first time
you're falling in love. Oh okay, I feel like she
feel a bit seedy for am I to say next,
but not to take it away from this whole beautiful moment.
But have you seen this whole thing that's happening lately
of the hot Jafar?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Oh, yeah, is kind of hot.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, it's not incorrect. People are doing first edits of Jafar. Yeah,
and it's again, it's not completely off the table, but
as a kid, disgusting. As an adult, yeah, problematic face
kind of.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I So it's been very exciting for me because this
particular movie Mimi has just started asking to watch. Oh
I love that great taste on repeat?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
What does she think of hot Jafar?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
She finds a bit scary when he turns into the snake. Yeah,
that's it's quite scary. But she calls it Latin, oh,
which I thought is so because the first time she's like, Mama,
can I watch Latin? I was like, you want to
speak Latin? And then I realized it was a Laddin.
But yeah, it's really nice to experience these movies with
my kids when they were such pore moments of my
(18:13):
childhood and seeing them enjoy it. I honestly like almost
tear it up. Like I was so emotional when she
liked it.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
That is very emotional. Also, it's good life building lessons
because not to sound crazy or anything, but kids movies today,
cad all the kids a bit is my thinking back
in our day. It's like, oh, baby's mother shot in
the face. He wasn't dead. You know this Steaks high
snake attacking you. You know what I mean, Like Steak's
High real danger.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
One of my all time favorites. I watched that one,
even the Return of Jafar, which was straight to.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
The Did you ever watch the Aladdin series on Saturday
Disney in the morning, Oh my god, Oh my god,
get me to watch that. It's a it's a serialized
story of Aladdin and Judzmine, So it happens between the
events of Aladdin and returned to Jafar, and it's like
mini episodes. Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I just think that Robin Williams just really made that
and is really one of the most iconic Okay speaking
of Leah Salanga, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
God, yes, Okay, I love I get this same mortle
excitement for every movie. I just want to like quit
my job and go watch Disney movies, which maybe I'll
do after this A very special movie that came out
in nineteen ninety eight. Al Mullan again a different kind
of entry to the Disney Princess in terms of it's
based on a legend, but taking away from some of
those different storybook elements that we've seen retold many times,
(19:35):
Like my first introduction to the myth of Milan and
like her importance and that story was through this Disney movie. Yeah,
which I love because you're watching it and you're just
as a child, like getting all this information about this
person for the first time.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, And I think that that's what made it so special.
And I know that we have Shane who kind of
is like the hero and safes, but the majority of
the stories about haw Milan is saving the men and
she's the strength. You know, she doesn't want to be
sold off to a man. Like Reflection is one of
the most beautiful songs, talking about like self worth and
(20:12):
who do I want to be? And that is just
such a beautiful moment for me. But again, a great
sidekick Eddie Murphy as Mushu, like, yeah, I'm sorry, Disney.
The fact that they kicked him out of the live
action one.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, we did it in a little bit of mooshoe
in there. And again, I think the other thing I
love about Disney is like a lot of the lead
female characters do feel like the hero, even if they're
not doing the more traditional hero role of like picking
up a sort of baddly like they're a hero in
a different way. But she did a sword, and even
just like doing it in the way she did it
to protect her family and watching her go through oh
so much. Also the songs in this every song ten
(20:49):
out of ten banger reflection, but also I'll make a
Man out of You through Ah make a Man out
of You. Is still seeing that song out loud to
each other all the time, And sometimes my nephew is like,
be quiet, and I was like, you know what, you
be quiet? Yeah, exactly the fear in that movie. And
(21:09):
like again like the final.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Battles and terrifying, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
God, again so beautifully done with like the humanity. Oh
my god, Milan, what a classic. Anyway, what's your next one?
Be here all day?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Okay, my next one is Hercules.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Oh my god, freaking love love love Hercules.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Now the reason I love Hercules is because number one,
I'm a huge fan of Greek mythology. Although if we're
going to be really finicky about the whole thing, Hercules
is actually the Roman name for the myth, and Heracles
is the Greek name, and this is based in Greek myth,
but we won't get into that because we don't need
to do like a full history lesson on Greek mythology.
I think the reason this one is a bit of
(21:46):
a favorite of mine is because the Muses and the
gospel element of it, because it's such a nice introduction
of a different kind of music in a Disney film,
and Meg being this kind of like, I don't want
this guy, I like yest with her, don't say I'm
in love, and the Muses like coming in and I
(22:07):
love that. Apart from Go the Distance, the key music
comes from the Muses, and the key music is gospel music.
James Woods, who plays Hades, actually says it's one of
his favorite roles of all time.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, I would believe that. Wait, do you know who
is the voice of Hercules. Tate Donovan, who is Marissa
Cooper's dad from The OC So think about that next
time you're watching it, yeah, kind of takes the sexiness
out of it. No, he was hot at the time.
I love Hercules for so many reasons. One, I just
think the story is so beautifully told, and again, the
stakes are so high, the songs are incredible. But I
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love Megra as a character because again I think, like again,
I love all my Disney princesses equally, but also seeing
someone who wasn't seen as like traditionally like good and
like virtuous, and she's a street smart lady who knows
what's going on. And I think their love story is
one of the best because it feels really earned at
the end when he jumps into the souls of the
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end and is that the most romantic thing you've ever
seen before?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I also really love the reason And the other reason
why I like this is because they use the classic
Greek myths. You know, we've got Heracles, Hercules is seven missions, the.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Seven num Yeah, tasty seven tasks.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
We've got you know, the Hydra, there's the you know,
the three of the Dog, there's the like there's all
of these myths that come into it. But then they
do like the air Jordan thing with fear and panic,
wearing like dispoaking shoes and drinking the Hercules, putting all
of those like modern nineties elements into it, and like
the fandom of Hercules. I think that just kind of
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lightens it and makes it really fun. And that's what
made me really really enjoy.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
There's so many like live action adaptations of Hercules with
these incredible Yeah yeah, hot, I wasn't thinking of that,
but yeah, there's all these TV shows and movies, and
I actually have to say controversial opinion. I think the
animated movie captures like the essence of Hercules as a
character the best, this struggle between a god and being
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a human and like what he faces and stuff. It
captures it in a way that the big screen adaptations don't. Also,
Danny DeVito is phil.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yes beautiful his song that he sings the movie.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I play that a lot. It's one of my favorite
walking to works. Yah. Yeah, it's really it's so good.
The beat is so good.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I also just really love the representation of all the
other gods, like how they're all quite like they're like
pink and blue, and like Mountain the Olympus looks really magical,
and it's just a really pretty interpretation of this Greek
myth that has been around for thousands and thousands of years,
and I honestly think that that's kind of what started
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my obsession with Greek mythology.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Oh I love that. And also I not usually say this,
but bring on the live action. I actually do want
to see this live action. I can't picture in my
head how they would do it, so I want to
see it.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
They are talking about it, but I think there's been
some discussion about the muses.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
But I actually want to see this one.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But they need gospel singers, like amazing gospel singers to
beat the music, and because they sing most of the songs,
that is the key.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Casting at one point, Yes, very much O. Okay Laura, Okay,
I know I said I wouldn't pick a favorite, but
I am slightly because I did save my favorite favorite
Disney movie until last.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And I don't know what this one is.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's Beauty and the Beast.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Taylor, as old as time, true as it can be,
barely even friends.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Somebody tailors all the time. The best Disney movie of
all time in my humble opinion, for so many reasons,
like as a kid obsessed with it, as an adult
so obsessed with it. I just think that again everything
about Bell's character, also not being a princess, that idea
of like nothing I wanted more as a kid, was
that idea of like being in that like a farm girl,
or you know, that idea of like wanting to break it.
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Not that I was a farm girl, but that idea
of like feeling like you were living a small life
and wanting to break out into a bigger one. Like
that line where she's like, I want much more than
a provincial life.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
And I still think about that, and look, there goes Belle.
She's strange but special. Yeah, you know, just because she's
got her nose in a book and she's like running
around like it's just it kind of ye.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It's an idea of like looking at the heroine of
a kid's movie, where you know, like when you're little,
you'd be like, who's the prettiest princess and who has
the best stress. We used to talk about that in
depth a lot still do actually my sisters and I.
But also this idea that Belle like, yeah, she's still
the most beautiful girl in town. It's very important for
a Disney movie for the hero always to be the
most beautiful but that idea of like very smart, not
conforming to like this idea of people what people want
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going off to have this adventure. I love the whole
Cursed Castle. The music is incredible, but again I just
feel like Belle and the Beast love story is so unique.
I also love the idea that the villain is just
really yeah, really hot. That's important, but also the most
terrifying thing you can have. It's a man who thinks
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that he knows best and is like take away your agency,
and that's way worse than a sea witch or the
god of death or anything. It's a dangerous man who
thinks he knows better, and that is what Gaston is.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, and I mean Gaston song as well is also
like one of my favorite and it has like.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
One of those traditional Disney deaths too, because if you
notice it, like in all those classic Disney movies, you
can't have the hero or the heroine kill the villain
physically in any way.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
It's a lot of falling.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
It takes away from them being these pure people, but
at the same time, you need the villain to die,
so everyone falls to their death.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It is primarily if you go back and look at
all the Disney movies, most of the villains die from
falling to their death. Jafar doesn't actually die, No, it.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Just gets locked in a lamp Urshula does get run
through with a ship, but I think that was like
maybe it's because she's a woman. I'm say, like she
can die. But like, especially with Gaston, because it was
a human on human death, they had to have Belle
like try and save him, but him fall because of
his own like wrongdoing. So you're getting a lesson, but
your hero comes out of it Unsayeah.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
A lot of the times, Yeah, the villain deaths are
not because of the hero, it's because of their own.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It's yeah, exactly. And the hero would have tried to
stop it, and Hades was already dead, so yeah, so
he's fine. So and he came back. Okay. Have you
noticed how the dancing scene in Being the Beast mirrors
the dancing scene in Sleeping Beauty. Yes, and it's because
they were running out of time so they use the
same animation block, which I don't even care. Also, on
a note of that, people have said to me when
I say it's my favorite Disney movie, they'll be like, oh,
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but don't you find it a real letdown that she
wanted to go have this big life and she ended
up getting married anyway. And to that, I say, she
still got married in a magical castle to print full
of books, and in my head she went and had
many adventures after that, so I don't feel like she
was a failure.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
And Okay, I feel like we keep saying this is
the best song, but Taylor's Oldest time, Oh my God,
so Good definitely does top in terms of like the
Disney catalog works as a theme song for the whole
of Disney.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Really, it has become the Disney song.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Angela Lansbury ten out of ten for that song, oh Everything,
and also voiced by one of my favorite Broadway stars,
Paige Ohara. Her voices bell and her voice was so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
And I actually quite liked the live action.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I liked elements of it.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay, we don't need to go, we don't need to go.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Into we don't yell Yeah, Beauty and the Beast ten
out of ten and Magic or every time I see that,
like that opening scene of a castle, like my heart
starts to beat, and Disney Movies is just the best.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I know. People get made fun of I know like
these things that it can be problematic, but don't ruin
my childhood.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Hey, you know what a good movie is a good
movie at any age. I tell a lot of adults
who like, oh, I haven't seen the original Little Murmato,
I haven't seen a Light eight, And I was like,
sit down and watch it because good dialogue and good
songs and good storytelling. Just because it's animated, it transcends that.
So if you're an adult who hasn't watched these movies,
you can still watch them now.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, so we can go into like later Disney later,
but this was just we had to focus on one
thing because otherwise we would be here for literally two hours.
So hope you guys liked it.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, let us do your favorite Disney movies. Obviously we
missed a few, but your favorite Disney movies we can
add to the list. And I can't wait talk Rome
from work today because that Disney playlist on my phone
is going to be pumping.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I already did pre listening before this record. Thank you
so much for listening to the Spill today.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
We hope that you loved your Disney episode as much
as we did. The Spill is produced by Manisha Iswarren
with sound production by Scott Strotok. Now, don't forget to
listen to Morning Tea at eight am Monday to Thursday.
But we will be back in your FeAs tomorrow at
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So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
From Mom and Maya. Welcome to the Spill your daily
pop culture fix. I'm cassemiel Luki and I'm Laura Brodnick,
and we have a very very exciting episode today to
celebrate seventy years of Disneyland Resort Magic, and it's going
to be all about Disney and I'm very excited. Laura's
very excited, and we're not ashamed to say that we
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are Disney adults.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yes, well, I mean, there's no wrong way to be
a Disney adult. But the way I identify as a
Disney adult is that I watched the Disney movies constantly
on a loop and with no children present, and I
listen to the Disney soundtracks over and over and over again.
And I love to go to Disneyland.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Okay, so my very first experience at Disneyland, I never
went as a kid. I've only been one time, and
it was always a dream of mine growing up. And
when I was twenty one and I went to the States,
I said to my girlfriend, I was like, I really
really wanted to go to disney They just like, I've
been so many times, I don't really want to go.
And then the boy that we were hanging out with said,
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I'll take you. So I went on a first date
to Disney.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It was the most romantic thing I have ever heard, and.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
We kissed under the fire Oh okay, those fireworks should
be borderline illegal, because if you've been in a Disneyland park,
the fireworks at the end of the night, if anyone
asked me to marry them, no one has yet, but if.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Anyone did, I would say yes, even a total stranger.
There's no more romantic moment. Obviously, going because a kid
is so amazing, but going as an adult for the
first time, because I did the same thing. Like, there
was no way my mum could afford to take four
kids to Disneyland, so I saved up all my money
from my first job and I went to the one
in Tokyo, and I remember just getting off the subway
platform and hearing Taylor's old at time and I just
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heard a running because I'm like, I'm home and me.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It was so magical. It's like the best first date ever.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Sorry, Dan, Yeah, because you didn't end up marrying that guy,
which I feel like is a mistake on your behalf.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, nope, this is the thing. Like Dan and I
were on a break like very rosso and Rachel and
it was just like I only saw this guy for
like two seconds. It was very quick, but it was
a really romantic date.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I really wanted to have someone that you've just had
one perfect date with and it just sits as this
little like perfect moment real life.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, very special to me. So what we're going to
do is we to talk about our favorite Disney movies,
and we're gonna mostly talk about like your Disney classics.
So it's not going to be like Frozen or Tangled
or any of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I just love those. But Love would be here for
six to seven hours, which to say, we both asked
if we could do a podcast marathon for ten hours.
That was vetoed and I.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Want to quickly just do a very quick history lesson.
So we've got our Golden Age, which is like when
it first started. So we've got nineteen thirty seven Snow White,
first full length feature film. We all know that that's
the story. We've got like Sleeping Beauty, which is in
like fifty nine. Then there was like when Walt died
in nineteen sixty six, it was kind of like this
big lull in the production and it was very very
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close to closing the studio. Then that magic happened, which
is the Renaissance of Disney, which is, as many millennials
will know, like the peak of Disney, which is like
eighty nine to ninety nine. And that's kind of mostly
what we're going to be focusing on, yes, today, So Laura,
do you want to go first?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yes, because actually I'm taking us right back to the beginning,
as you mentioned, with the very first big Disney movie,
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. So that movie came
out in nineteen thirty seven. I wasn't currently alive at
that time. Can you believe.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It's beautiful for being I did this.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
It's the magic of Disney. It's kept me young in
like a wicked which kind of way. But I just
have just a visceral memory of watching that movie as
a kid and how freaking magical it was and the animation.
And I know some people look back on it now
and like, obviously the animation isn't as high tech as
what we see now, but that was the movie, as
you're saying, that started at all. And I just love
the idea that Walt Disney wanted to make this big
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animated movie that could play in cinemas, that could stand
up to like an action movie or something, you know
what I mean, and like that adults would want to
see it at the same time as kids. And everyone
said it couldn't be done. No one's going to see that,
it's not going to make any money, and then it
became such a success, such a box office hit, made
so much money, and every movie that we have now
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is because of that. But I also think it's just
a very sweet, lovely movie and also quite terrifying. Like
don't you think the Witch in that movie is one
of the scariest Disney villains.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Some of them are very very scary, And now that
I watched some of the original movies with my kids,
I'm like, ah, this is actually terrifying.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
When she runs through the woods from the Huntsman, that's
what I mean. Disney movies High Stakes runs through the
woods and she falls through all of the trees and
the storm and everything. And then also when the Wicked
Queen changes.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
When she's like the Wicked Queen and she chas the
old lady and she comes to the window.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
That is even from the live action with Rachel Zegel,
when you see the witch slowly walking up towards the
little cottage, I was like, that is the scariest scene
of a movie this year.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I think goes to show that practical effects always better
than any kind of cgi stuff. And I also think
the original Disney songs are just really beautiful, like whistle
while you work. Some day my Prince will come really sweet.
And also I think a lot of people don't like
that the Prince doesn't get a lot of airtime in
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. Like you see him
briefly at the start, he comes along at the end
he kisses her and that's it. And I actually think
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that's great, let's decentiment from our lives. But I think it.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Also he was the original Prince Charming, Like this is
the first time we got that trope right. That really
wasn't That wasn't the thing. Speaking of which, yes, my wine, Okay,
sleeping Beauty, which I know is also.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Oh my god, I love Sleeping Beauty, even though Princess
of Rora has what is it? Three minutes of dialogue
all up? It's great, she looks great.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's amazing that and with the fairies and the changing
red blue, red blue, that was just and the cake scene.
But the thing that makes me the most nostalgic about
that movie is in the mornings, my dad used to
wake me up with the once upon a dream?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, ah know you why walk with you want far
on a dream. That's a big song in my family
as well. My sister's and I sing it all the time.
And my brother always pretends that he doesn't love Disney
movies as much as we do. But one day my
sister was singing in her room and the bit where
the prince comes in, my brother burst through the door
and sung through the whole thing. We still reference it
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to this day. That's a banger of a song.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's a beautiful song and it just like makes me like, yeah,
it's just like for a special from me. It makes
me think of home and the red make it blue,
make it pink, make it blue? And the cake like
have you said people make those cakes for their wedding cake?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yes, that's what everyone should have at their wedding.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I loved that and the booms. It was just it's
a really good like that was kind of the first.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Introduction and also high stakes if we're getting into the
storytelling side of it, because you have some Disney movies,
you're just like, oh, this is gonna be fine. But
I think watching Sleeping Beauty as a kid, like the
danger feels real. So Maleficent was scary, great villain villain,
and how like every Disney villain has the lime green
around to signify that they're the evil one. That moment
where she turns into the dragon and she comes up
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and just great and very romantic dance at the end.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Okay, oh my god. It was so hard to pick
just a few movies. Can I tell you, Out of
every huge work thing I've got to do this week,
this is the most difficult.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
When it was mentioned that we were doing this, I
said that if I wasn't going to be on this
episode that I would revolt.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I'm like, so, I just you just smashing the door out.
I would love to see that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Like, I was like, I need to be in the
Disney this episode, particularly because it's come back into my
life in such a big way now that my kids
are old enough to be watching so cute. But what
is your now that we're entering three salts periods?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Well, yes, it's good that you bring up because this
movie is credited with kicking off the Disney renaissance. So
as a child, you know, that was the thing. I
just thought Disney had banger after banger after banger, but
this was like the next big swell of animation. And
it is The Little Mermaid, which came out in nineteen
eighty nine, and I think something about that movie even
to this day. When I watched, I get a chill.
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It's so magical and otherworldly and action sequences great, and
I also just love how they were able to take
a story that was so dark and so like brutal.
You know, do you know the real story of The
Little Mermaid? Yeah, if anyone who hasn't read the original book,
which I had to read the book as a kid,
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and I was just like, what where she gets her
legs from the Sea Witch, But when she's on Earth,
it's like she's walking on knives, so every step hurts,
and she doesn't get the Prince to fall in love
with her, and the Sea Witch she's like, well, you're
going to die unless you stab him in the heart
with this dagger. And she goes to do it when
he and his new wife are in bed, and then
she's like, I can't do it because she's a good person.
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She's a little mermaid, and so the whole threat is
that when she dies. And I think about this every
time I go to the beach. If a mermaid dies,
they become the foam on the ocean waves, part of
the ocean, but like not really part of it. So
think about that next time you and your kids are
at the beach and tell them what that foam is.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And King Triton is babe.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, in the original in the movie, but then also
the original story, her sisters find a way to like
kind of save her soul and stuff. That's nice. So
the Disney movie different vibe, But yeah, I loved everything
about it. Like, so I feel like you actually get
to watch her and Eric fall in love. Yeah, I
feel like Sebastian's a great character, part of your world.
One of the most beautiful songs every know.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
The people some of.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
My questions and get some answers, what's the fire and
what's the word.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Such a banger of a song, so the original singer
when she was in the little sound booth trying to
record that, it was like all lit up, obviously it is,
and all the musicians were there and all the tech
were there, and she just couldn't get it. She had
to end up like getting them to shut it off,
black it out, and she like sung with her head down.
She's like, I need to feel like I'm in this
underwater caven. I used to feel like I'm in darkness
and I'm picturing a world that I'm not part of,
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and I can't do that with the light. So I
always think of that story when I watch it. Also,
I think Ursula might be my favorite villain.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Love her right.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I love her as a kid, horrified.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
She's such a diva.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I have a lot more respect for her now as
an adult. I was like, you were just a working
woman and a man like took your crown and you
were just trying to figure it out with his brady daughter.
So I see her side of it now. Well, there's
two scenes where she's terrifying. One is where she pulls
herself up into the ship and she pulls herself along
really quickly with her hands. Sorry, that's not a kid's movie.
And then when she becomes like the giant giant, she
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rises up above the seat, terrifying.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But and Poor Unfortunate Souls is a great villain song.
I know that there's a little bit of like criticism
about it on reflection because Ariel can't speak, and there's
the whole kiss the girl. Yeah, it's like they changed
the lyric. Yeah, because you know, I know she doesn't
look like she wants it, but she does. Like it
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was like this whole consent thing. But it's okay for
us to enjoy things in the moment. And that beautiful
scene you know where they're going through the willows and
you know, the brushing the hair with the fork. That's
just like so many classics.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
To stay every time. And where somewhere now where I
think there could be a Mermaid, I do have a
look because part of me does still think that could happen.
I feel like you actually see her and Eric fall
in love. Yeah, and that's what I'm looking for now
my Disney stories. I'm looking for a love story that
I feel involved in. So Little Mermaid such a banger.
That scene where you see the castle for the first time. Yeah, well,
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I cry in the pod. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Maybe yeah, And also I do think that and I
know I said this before, but King Tridon is like
original day.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, he's so hot and he's only getting hot. I
guess this is appropriate. He's only getting hotter.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
All the absolutely.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'm like, damn, and have you seen the Little Mermaid
movies that come, like the prequel series where he's like
a young hot trident hot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Now we're not going to talk about The Lion King
only because everybody loves The Lion King. We know it's
a wonderful movie. It's like the highest grossing.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's not my top five for me, it is like,
oh really, okay, I would say it is probably.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
One of the ones that I watched the most. It's
the most popular one. Oh yeah, for a reason.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Oh yeah, no, I do like it, but it wouldn't
be on my own gunning top five.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
The other one that I know is also really basic,
but is better basic movies. Here is the one that
I watched the most as a kid because I had
the VHS. If you don't know what VHTS tape is,
it's a square little thing that you put in and
you used to have to rewind it. I don't know
how many gen Z listeners we have, but VHS tapes Aladdin.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh my god, I love Aladdin. I know I've said
that about every movie. I remember. I saved up all
my birthday money to buy that VHS tape one year
and sorry, every point of that story is incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So, nineteen ninety two Aladdin came out and the and
I think this movie did so well. It was the
first time that Disney used a big celebrity voice for
the cast. Before then, they were kind of known, but
not known.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Voice after a lot of Broadway stars singing voice. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So Robin Williams obviously was the big star of this
and that's the first time they did this, and it
is now probably one of the most common things that
Disney movies do now is they use the big names
to draw people in. Yeah, and so this is the
first time it happened. So Robin Williams, sixteen.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Hours of uh, I would believe it.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I would too. And what I wouldn't give to be
in that room. Sixteen hours of improvised content, a lot
of which they couldn't use it.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
A Disney release the tapes, Disney release, the release the tape.
I want to see them.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I know again there's the story of Robin Williams
getting quite upset because there were some merchandising issues with
the sort of head of Disney at the time, but
that kind of all got resolved in like the mid nineties,
so we can still enjoy that. But you know, for
so many people, particularly people of our age, that was
like our introduction to Robyn Williams as this comedic star.
(14:25):
And the also I feel like it was one of
the first Disney movies to introduce adult humor that would
go over kids' heads.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, the scene where he goes into a brothel. Yeah,
didn't get that as a kid, probably only got it recently,
like last week now. I picked it up all.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Those like Jack Nicholson like impressions, like all of that,
And then I don't know if you've picked up on
the like Sebastian coming out of the book. There's scar
you know how the Sultan is building the tower. Yeah yeah,
if you look very close to the scar is there.
And the Lion King hadn't even come out yet.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
The way they've started like peppering little bits and pieces
hid in movies is yeah, is yeah. So incredible. But yeah,
I know they made a lot of script changes around
like how Jasmine and Ladden would meet and like, yeah,
well they're done, would be even like change like who
Aladdin's Psyekick was going to be and all this sort
of stuff, But like the end result of where they landed,
I feel like is the perfect kind of like progression
(15:20):
of a love story like that. We're also making her
a lot of the Disney princesses had like a lot
of agency and like their own person even in those
really early days. But I think Judsmine in particular with
the whole like not wanting to settle for a husband
and stuff. Doesn't seem revolutionary now, but like back then
for a kids animated movie that was princess centered was huge.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah. Well, the fact that she walks in on you know,
Sultan Jafar and Aladdin all talking and she's like, you
think you could do this, and like just just the
way she did that, there was a lot of sort
of strength in that. And Prince Ali one of the
best songs of all time.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Every Sally Strong as ten Regular Men, definitelys.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And same with the Whole New World one of the
best songs of all time. This is what I always
said people when they give me shit for listening to
because I listened to Disney songs pretty much every day,
at least multiple times a week. It's my main playlist.
And it's not because there's like this regression to childhood.
It's because the people who made those songs are the
best composers, the best lyricists, the best singers at the
time on those projects. So just because they're Disney movies
(16:29):
doesn't mean those songs aren't as good as like a
traditional Broadway song.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Well, and we know, I mean, if you know anything
about like Disney history, you know that the speaking voice
of Jasmine is not the singing voice. Yes, so Leah Salonga,
who is probably one of the most iconic Disney women
of all time. She also sang in Mulan. It just
has the most perfect Disney princess voice. I just think
(16:56):
it was such a beautiful. A Whole New World was
so amazing. Now I can't remember his name, but the
gentleman who sung for Aladdin, apparently when they were recording
A Whole New World they were like falling in love,
oh my years' and they dated afterwards.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Sorry, if you're singing that song, especially the first time
you're falling in love. Oh okay, I feel like she
feel a bit seedy for am I to say next,
but not to take it away from this whole beautiful moment.
But have you seen this whole thing that's happening lately
of the hot Jafar?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Oh, yeah, is kind of hot.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, it's not incorrect. People are doing first edits of Jafar. Yeah,
and it's again, it's not completely off the table, but
as a kid, disgusting. As an adult, yeah, problematic face
kind of.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I So it's been very exciting for me because this
particular movie Mimi has just started asking to watch. Oh
I love that great taste on repeat?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
What does she think of hot Jafar?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
She finds a bit scary when he turns into the snake. Yeah,
that's it's quite scary. But she calls it Latin, oh,
which I thought is so because the first time she's like, Mama,
can I watch Latin? I was like, you want to
speak Latin? And then I realized it was a Laddin.
But yeah, it's really nice to experience these movies with
my kids when they were such pore moments of my
(18:13):
childhood and seeing them enjoy it. I honestly like almost
tear it up. Like I was so emotional when she
liked it.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
That is very emotional. Also, it's good life building lessons
because not to sound crazy or anything, but kids movies today,
cad all the kids a bit is my thinking back
in our day. It's like, oh, baby's mother shot in
the face. He wasn't dead. You know this Steaks high
snake attacking you. You know what I mean, Like Steak's
High real danger.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
One of my all time favorites. I watched that one,
even the Return of Jafar, which was straight to.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
The Did you ever watch the Aladdin series on Saturday
Disney in the morning, Oh my god, Oh my god,
get me to watch that. It's a it's a serialized
story of Aladdin and Judzmine, So it happens between the
events of Aladdin and returned to Jafar, and it's like
mini episodes. Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I just think that Robin Williams just really made that
and is really one of the most iconic Okay speaking
of Leah Salanga, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
God, yes, Okay, I love I get this same mortle
excitement for every movie. I just want to like quit
my job and go watch Disney movies, which maybe I'll
do after this A very special movie that came out
in nineteen ninety eight. Al Mullan again a different kind
of entry to the Disney Princess in terms of it's
based on a legend, but taking away from some of
those different storybook elements that we've seen retold many times,
(19:35):
Like my first introduction to the myth of Milan and
like her importance and that story was through this Disney movie. Yeah,
which I love because you're watching it and you're just
as a child, like getting all this information about this
person for the first time.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, And I think that that's what made it so special.
And I know that we have Shane who kind of
is like the hero and safes, but the majority of
the stories about haw Milan is saving the men and
she's the strength. You know, she doesn't want to be
sold off to a man. Like Reflection is one of
the most beautiful songs, talking about like self worth and
(20:12):
who do I want to be? And that is just
such a beautiful moment for me. But again, a great
sidekick Eddie Murphy as Mushu, like, yeah, I'm sorry, Disney.
The fact that they kicked him out of the live
action one.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, we did it in a little bit of mooshoe
in there. And again, I think the other thing I
love about Disney is like a lot of the lead
female characters do feel like the hero, even if they're
not doing the more traditional hero role of like picking
up a sort of baddly like they're a hero in
a different way. But she did a sword, and even
just like doing it in the way she did it
to protect her family and watching her go through oh
so much. Also the songs in this every song ten
(20:49):
out of ten banger reflection, but also I'll make a
Man out of You through Ah make a Man out
of You. Is still seeing that song out loud to
each other all the time, And sometimes my nephew is like,
be quiet, and I was like, you know what, you
be quiet? Yeah, exactly the fear in that movie. And
(21:09):
like again like the final.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Battles and terrifying, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
God, again so beautifully done with like the humanity. Oh
my god, Milan, what a classic. Anyway, what's your next one?
Be here all day?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Okay, my next one is Hercules.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Oh my god, freaking love love love Hercules.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Now the reason I love Hercules is because number one,
I'm a huge fan of Greek mythology. Although if we're
going to be really finicky about the whole thing, Hercules
is actually the Roman name for the myth, and Heracles
is the Greek name, and this is based in Greek myth,
but we won't get into that because we don't need
to do like a full history lesson on Greek mythology.
I think the reason this one is a bit of
(21:46):
a favorite of mine is because the Muses and the
gospel element of it, because it's such a nice introduction
of a different kind of music in a Disney film,
and Meg being this kind of like, I don't want
this guy, I like yest with her, don't say I'm
in love, and the Muses like coming in and I
(22:07):
love that. Apart from Go the Distance, the key music
comes from the Muses, and the key music is gospel music.
James Woods, who plays Hades, actually says it's one of
his favorite roles of all time.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, I would believe that. Wait, do you know who
is the voice of Hercules. Tate Donovan, who is Marissa
Cooper's dad from The OC So think about that next
time you're watching it, yeah, kind of takes the sexiness
out of it. No, he was hot at the time.
I love Hercules for so many reasons. One, I just
think the story is so beautifully told, and again, the
stakes are so high, the songs are incredible. But I
(22:43):
love Megra as a character because again I think, like again,
I love all my Disney princesses equally, but also seeing
someone who wasn't seen as like traditionally like good and
like virtuous, and she's a street smart lady who knows
what's going on. And I think their love story is
one of the best because it feels really earned at
the end when he jumps into the souls of the
(23:03):
end and is that the most romantic thing you've ever
seen before?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I also really love the reason And the other reason
why I like this is because they use the classic
Greek myths. You know, we've got Heracles, Hercules is seven missions, the.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Seven num Yeah, tasty seven tasks.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
We've got you know, the Hydra, there's the you know,
the three of the Dog, there's the like there's all
of these myths that come into it. But then they
do like the air Jordan thing with fear and panic,
wearing like dispoaking shoes and drinking the Hercules, putting all
of those like modern nineties elements into it, and like
the fandom of Hercules. I think that just kind of
(23:45):
lightens it and makes it really fun. And that's what
made me really really enjoy.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
There's so many like live action adaptations of Hercules with
these incredible Yeah yeah, hot, I wasn't thinking of that,
but yeah, there's all these TV shows and movies, and
I actually have to say controversial opinion. I think the
animated movie captures like the essence of Hercules as a
character the best, this struggle between a god and being
(24:11):
a human and like what he faces and stuff. It
captures it in a way that the big screen adaptations don't. Also,
Danny DeVito is phil.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yes beautiful his song that he sings the movie.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I play that a lot. It's one of my favorite
walking to works. Yah. Yeah, it's really it's so good.
The beat is so good.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I also just really love the representation of all the
other gods, like how they're all quite like they're like
pink and blue, and like Mountain the Olympus looks really magical,
and it's just a really pretty interpretation of this Greek
myth that has been around for thousands and thousands of years,
and I honestly think that that's kind of what started
(24:48):
my obsession with Greek mythology.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Oh I love that. And also I not usually say this,
but bring on the live action. I actually do want
to see this live action. I can't picture in my
head how they would do it, so I want to
see it.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
They are talking about it, but I think there's been
some discussion about the muses.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
But I actually want to see this one.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But they need gospel singers, like amazing gospel singers to
beat the music, and because they sing most of the songs,
that is the key.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Casting at one point, Yes, very much O. Okay Laura, Okay,
I know I said I wouldn't pick a favorite, but
I am slightly because I did save my favorite favorite
Disney movie until last.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And I don't know what this one is.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's Beauty and the Beast.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Taylor, as old as time, true as it can be,
barely even friends.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Somebody tailors all the time. The best Disney movie of
all time in my humble opinion, for so many reasons,
like as a kid obsessed with it, as an adult
so obsessed with it. I just think that again everything
about Bell's character, also not being a princess, that idea
of like nothing I wanted more as a kid, was
that idea of like being in that like a farm girl,
or you know, that idea of like wanting to break it.
(26:02):
Not that I was a farm girl, but that idea
of like feeling like you were living a small life
and wanting to break out into a bigger one. Like
that line where she's like, I want much more than
a provincial life.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
And I still think about that, and look, there goes Belle.
She's strange but special. Yeah, you know, just because she's
got her nose in a book and she's like running
around like it's just it kind of ye.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It's an idea of like looking at the heroine of
a kid's movie, where you know, like when you're little,
you'd be like, who's the prettiest princess and who has
the best stress. We used to talk about that in
depth a lot still do actually my sisters and I.
But also this idea that Belle like, yeah, she's still
the most beautiful girl in town. It's very important for
a Disney movie for the hero always to be the
most beautiful but that idea of like very smart, not
conforming to like this idea of people what people want
(26:47):
going off to have this adventure. I love the whole
Cursed Castle. The music is incredible, but again I just
feel like Belle and the Beast love story is so unique.
I also love the idea that the villain is just
really yeah, really hot. That's important, but also the most
terrifying thing you can have. It's a man who thinks
(27:09):
that he knows best and is like take away your agency,
and that's way worse than a sea witch or the
god of death or anything. It's a dangerous man who
thinks he knows better, and that is what Gaston is.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, and I mean Gaston song as well is also
like one of my favorite and it has like.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
One of those traditional Disney deaths too, because if you
notice it, like in all those classic Disney movies, you
can't have the hero or the heroine kill the villain
physically in any way.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
It's a lot of falling.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
It takes away from them being these pure people, but
at the same time, you need the villain to die,
so everyone falls to their death.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It is primarily if you go back and look at
all the Disney movies, most of the villains die from
falling to their death. Jafar doesn't actually die, No, it.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Just gets locked in a lamp Urshula does get run
through with a ship, but I think that was like
maybe it's because she's a woman. I'm say, like she
can die. But like, especially with Gaston, because it was
a human on human death, they had to have Belle
like try and save him, but him fall because of
his own like wrongdoing. So you're getting a lesson, but
your hero comes out of it Unsayeah.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
A lot of the times, Yeah, the villain deaths are
not because of the hero, it's because of their own.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It's yeah, exactly. And the hero would have tried to
stop it, and Hades was already dead, so yeah, so
he's fine. So and he came back. Okay. Have you
noticed how the dancing scene in Being the Beast mirrors
the dancing scene in Sleeping Beauty. Yes, and it's because
they were running out of time so they use the
same animation block, which I don't even care. Also, on
a note of that, people have said to me when
I say it's my favorite Disney movie, they'll be like, oh,
(28:42):
but don't you find it a real letdown that she
wanted to go have this big life and she ended
up getting married anyway. And to that, I say, she
still got married in a magical castle to print full
of books, and in my head she went and had
many adventures after that, so I don't feel like she
was a failure.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
And Okay, I feel like we keep saying this is
the best song, but Taylor's Oldest time, Oh my God,
so Good definitely does top in terms of like the
Disney catalog works as a theme song for the whole
of Disney.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Really, it has become the Disney song.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Angela Lansbury ten out of ten for that song, oh Everything,
and also voiced by one of my favorite Broadway stars,
Paige Ohara. Her voices bell and her voice was so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
And I actually quite liked the live action.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I liked elements of it.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay, we don't need to go, we don't need to go.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Into we don't yell Yeah, Beauty and the Beast ten
out of ten and Magic or every time I see that,
like that opening scene of a castle, like my heart
starts to beat, and Disney Movies is just the best.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I know. People get made fun of I know like
these things that it can be problematic, but don't ruin
my childhood.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Hey, you know what a good movie is a good
movie at any age. I tell a lot of adults
who like, oh, I haven't seen the original Little Murmato,
I haven't seen a Light eight, And I was like,
sit down and watch it because good dialogue and good
songs and good storytelling. Just because it's animated, it transcends that.
So if you're an adult who hasn't watched these movies,
you can still watch them now.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, so we can go into like later Disney later,
but this was just we had to focus on one
thing because otherwise we would be here for literally two hours.
So hope you guys liked it.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, let us do your favorite Disney movies. Obviously we
missed a few, but your favorite Disney movies we can
add to the list. And I can't wait talk Rome
from work today because that Disney playlist on my phone
is going to be pumping.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I already did pre listening before this record. Thank you
so much for listening to the Spill today.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
We hope that you loved your Disney episode as much
as we did. The Spill is produced by Manisha Iswarren
with sound production by Scott Strotok. Now, don't forget to
listen to Morning Tea at eight am Monday to Thursday.
But we will be back in your FeAs tomorrow at
three pm. Bye bye,
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