June 30, 2025 • 36 mins
From buzzy new releases to under-the-radar gems, we’re officially halfway through the year, so it’s time to round up the very best TV shows of 2025 (so far).
In this episode, Laura and Taylah share their top picks for what you should be watching right now. Yes, there are a few big titles you’ll recognise (White Lotus, we see you), but most of these are fresh releases that dropped their first season this year, and might not be on your radar yet.
From Stanley Tucci’s delicious culinary quest through Italy, to an underrated Netflix comedy about love, ageing and awkward family dynamics, and Kate Hudson's fun, sporty series with a big heart, there’s something for everyone to curl up with this winter.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
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that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
From Mamma Mia.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm
Laura Brodneck and I'm Taylor Strano and Taylor, you were
here for a very important show. I have been waiting
all year to do this particular episode because on today's
show we are talking about the very best TV shows
that have come out in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Because we're halfway through the year.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, happy into financial year, which.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Is terrifying, Like I'm pushing that thought aside, and I'm
not thinking about how fast time is going, but just
on how many good shows we've had come out this year.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
This has been a very tall order to fulfill. So
I hope that I do the Spiller's justice. I feel
like you and I Laura watch a lot of TV.
We rewatch a lot of comfort TV, so I had
to really think about what I've watched and actually enjoyed
that's been a new release this year.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Okay, so you touch on a good point, because first
we're going to do rules, because what is the pop
culture and entertain podcast without some hard and fast rules
type a girl stuff that if anyone breaks, I will
yell at them. Okay, so not you. No, that was
a dick at Emily Vedam for MG's on the show.
So the criteria for this year that we were looking
at for the ones, we're going to deep dive on
TV shows that have premiered their first season this year,
(01:33):
the brand new TV shows that we were introduced to
to the first time. So we've picked our faves, but
there's a few others we wanted to mention.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yes, honorable mentions, because what is a roundup of the
best TV without a couple of honorable mentions. Now, these
are shows that were technically a new season and this year, however,
not a new show. Of course, we would be so
silly to not talk about The White Lotus. Season three
took us to Thailand this year, brand new cast, although
a couple of returning cast members. It was so nice
(02:02):
to see Natasha Rothwell back in this season. Yes, and
of course I can never remember his name because he
keeps changing it.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Greg Oh yeah, not Greg, yep, evil Greg.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You can even Greg, thank you if you know you
know and if you don't you need to go back
and watch the two seasons. Are you a fan of
The White Lotus?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So see, I mean I have my favorite so season
two of The White Lotus I have watched close to
twenty times. Yeah, that is like just a lot of
something I go back to exactly, And then this new
season I really did love as well. Particularly maybe it's
like season two, season three, then season one.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Hard agree with you there. I think season one was
the worst and I'm like almost fearful that people watch
that and then didn't return for the next No.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I have told so many people to go and watch
season two, and they only have recently because of that.
It's good TV, but it just's the hype of the
other season.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I think the point of difference this season was there's
always like usually one or two standout characters. Obviously Jennifer
Coolige's Tanya is a standout character. Aubrey Plaza was a
standout in season two. This season, I feel like it
was a three way tie between Chelsea Rick and of
course Victoria Ratliffe.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Oh yes, because.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like zi yeah play the clip here of all of
the yeah fabulous one liners.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
We flew over the North Pearl most people don't want
to have good values.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
They're scammers.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
We haven't even seen the place, I.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Promise you it is very legit. The monk who runs
it he has written major books. So Charles Manson wrote books,
Bill Clinton wrote books.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
The list goes on.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
You're young, you're beautiful.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Why are you with this middle aged weirdo?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Pipern so definitely worth an honorable mention. The other one
for me, Laura is Big Mouth, which wrapped up its
eighth and final season. It is such a silly little
show and it is about absolutely like bonkers, batshit adolescents
coming of age hormones. It's really really silly, but it
has such a banging cast, and every season they upped
(03:59):
in and upped it. Like season seven, Megan thee Stallion
appeared and just wrapped in it, and it was just
it's so fun and silly and I really loved it.
What about you? What are some of the honorable mentions
for you this year? Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I mean, I'm going to say Apple Sided Videgar at
the top because that is a new season that came
out this year, but we've just got so many other
entries we had to sort of bump it up the list,
but obviously that was a huge kind of cultural moment
as well as being a TV show that everyone in
the world watched. So we did do a whole brutally
honest review on it that will link in the show notes,
so I'll save all of the chatter about that for there.
(04:30):
Otherwise this podcast is going to be two hours.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I feel like I love that
as well, because it was an Australian story that get
the world and it's always nice when the attention is
on us down under exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Listening to so many of the American podcasts that are
in my weekly podcast rotation, listening to them discover that
show for the first time because they were like, is
it fiction? And in happy google it a podcast? Let
me check, No, this really happened, you know it didn't happen,
And I was like, oh my god, I can't wait
for you guys to realize that this is a real story.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And when you do, go back and listen to the
quickie because we did a what is factory fiction in
apple side of it?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yes, I feel like that's the kind of information that
people are still looking for now they've watched that show. Okay,
So getting into the best new TV shows of the
year so far. What is the first show are you
gonna put out there?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay, the first one that I'm putting out there is
from Netflix is four Seasons. Have you watched this?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, the tinafe One Night.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Tina Fey so created by Tina Fey. It's comedy drama
and there's like this really lovely cast that goes along
with it. So Tina plays Kate and her husband is
played by Will Forte and he plays Jack. And basically
they're these three couples, so like Tina Fey and Will Forte,
Steve Carell's in their Kerrie Kinney, Silver Coleman Domingo, and
Marco Calvanni, and it just sort of tracks their relationships
(05:41):
with each other, with them as individuals, but like also
their intimate partner relationships as they go on these seasonal
couples trips like group trips together. A group trip terrifies me.
I actually hate the idea of it. Really, yes, I've
got issues. I know that the k me problem. The
idea of a group trips.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
This is a horror movie here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Well, I really enjoyed it though, because even though things
do go wrong and one of the relationships breaks down.
There are these really great moments of joy and light
and funny in an otherwise quite dramatic and sometimes sad series.
But what I actually really like about this, Laura, is
I feel like, at the moment, there has been this
massive resurgence in shows about teens or teen dramas, teen comedy,
(06:22):
young adult sort of stuff, and this focuses on characters
that are in that next phase of life and the
complications and the nuance that happens in amongst those storylines.
So I really liked it for that reason. Yeah, you've
seen it, did you?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Now, I really liked it, And I also love that like,
Tina Fey has just been off our screens for so long,
and she obviously does a lot of creating and producing
behind the scenes, but it's the first time she's come
back as a lead actor in a project like this. Like,
I loved her in the show, but I also loved
watching her do the press rounds before it. Because she said,
the day you're allowed to like post reviews, she jumped online.
(06:54):
She was looking at the reviews and the top most
like comment on her review was from a woman called Ronda,
being like Tina Fey is the worst actress in the world,
and she.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Was like, ad, I'm back in the biz, which I
loved for her. Love that A.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Question, though, if you're a really big fan, what did
you think of the fat that it's coming back for
another season, because I found that quite jarring. I thought
it felt like a one and done's show.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, so I hold the unpopular opinion that most television
shows should end after one season.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Okay, you and I do disagree on that.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Mostly I know it is a hill that I'll die
on and we don't have time to go and all
the other examples. This was a one and done for me.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, that's why I thought it was jarring, because this
is one of the rat instances where I agree with you.
Because usually if I love a show, I need ten
seasons minimum and twenty episodes old school TV, that's what
I want. But this one, I'm like, oh, that felt
quite self contained. But it is coming up pro second season,
so we'll see, and.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Then I'm aviously gonna watch it because Clemen Domingo.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
But he was the standout for me. Obviously that man
should be in every single TV show. Well, speaking of
men that feel like they're in a lot of different
TV shows. I mean, this guy's kind of made a
bit of a comeback. I want to talk about The
Pit that's on Max, which has been a huge TV
show that's come out in the second half of this year.
So it's a medical procedural drama, which I try sometimes
not to watch because I am a hypochondriact. I've had
(08:09):
to ban myself from Gray's Anatomy. This is a surprise
take from you, No I know.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Well.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Other thing is like I feel like I'm like I
should say this for the people because like it is
arguably one of the best new TV shows of the year,
but it does make me feel like I'm close to
death as I watch it. So these are the sacrifices
I make for the spillers. So what's interesting about this
is that it's created by a Scott Gemmel and it
stars NOELH. Wiley, And Gammel was actually one of the
big people who created Er, that huge medical show that
(08:36):
was on decades ago now and NOELH. Wiley who's one
of the stars of Er. So like in the original
it was like George Clooney at the start of his
career and Noel Wiley as the two leads of that show.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
People are obsessed with them.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
They played doctors on Friends like that was an injury, remember,
because it was such a big thing. And so in
this it tracks the story of what's happening in an
ear and it does that thing that twenty four did
is that it covers fifteen hours of an er shift,
but every hour in their shift is an hour of
the TV show. So it's super fast paced, super intense.
(09:09):
Noah Wiley's back playing a doctor, but like in R
he was a very young doctor just starting his career,
and in this he's like more of a kind of
seasoned expert.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Okay, my question for you, Laura is I loved Gray's
Anatomy for like maybe the first twelve seasons, but then
it got stuck in that thing of it's a rinse
repeat right, like you go in, there's a medical issue,
let's solved it. Okay, move on to the next episode.
Does the pit fall victim to that or have they
been able to negate to an extent.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It'll be interesting to see what happens with the next
few seasons because right now, like it feels so fresh
because you're getting to know these characters and all the
different doctors, and because it's so fast paced, like every
minute you're watching it is a minute in their lives,
and they're bringing in all these different cases. And because
it's the emergency room, it's very kind of like triage
life or death, getting people in quickly. So it kind
(09:58):
of I think needs a second season to see if
it's gonna wear off. But right now it like weirdly
feels very fresh. Medical shows feel done to death and
it's not all about like doctors hooking up in on.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Kroom and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, which, to be fair, is the only reason I
want to watch goes out to me, like I want
to see people dying. I just want to know about
people hooking up and on call rooms, which apparently doesn't
happen that much, my sister tells me. But interesting fact
about this is like, and I kind of haven't helped
the situation because I just said er about five times.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But the widow of the other creator of EAR is
suing the show because she says like it's damaging the
legacy of r and a blatant ripoff. She was like, basically,
and I'm paraphrasing all her legal documents here, but basically
she's saying, Noah Wiley was a star of R and
he played a doctor, and he's playing a doctor here
with the other people who worked on ER. So she's like,
(10:47):
you've basically taken AR and revamped it into this knockoff
show that's capitalizing on her dead husband's legacy.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And NOELH.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Wiley has put out a statement saying he's really saddened
that this is happening. But yeah, they are getting sued
by ER. So that's a lot to see what happens there.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think to people not yet know that no idea
is original anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I know, No, it's I think it's the fact that
she feels that they're really capitalizing, which is they keep
saying like if you love Dr. Not that their official
marketing says that, but like the vibe online is like
if you love DR. This is ere in a different way. Okay,
so one season of that this year so far. Yes,
I fear that I'm about to lose you. With next recommendation.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Again from Netflix, this is a docu series called Power
Moves based on that name. What do you think it's about?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Okay, I'm intrigued. I'm not completely turned off. Power Moves Dance,
Oh bless you? A little corporate esponage? What something else?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I would wrestling? I would watch the shit out of that.
You piqued my free interests. Okay. Power Moves is a
Netflix docu series that follows NBA legends Shaquille O'Neal and
Allen Iverson as they lead rebox come back from the
brand's Boston headquarters. Does anything from that sentence appeal to you?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I mean, look, I've seen air maybe Michael Jordan's shoes,
so I'm kind of invested. I don't know NBA, which
is basketball well done? And shoes is really like my
two points of interest. Okay, I guess that's so crazy
about teaching you things. I'm probably not gonna watch this
one out there.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
But do you know who Shaquille O'Neal is?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, he's a really famous basketball player, but that's half
the struggle.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, do you know who the other guy was?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Okay, I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I don't know that man, And to be honest, don't
ask many four questions about Shaquille O'Neill.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I just know that he was a basketball player.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
He is really super tall, which the fact that he's
a basketball player, isn't and he's gone to do like
media stuff, right, Yeah, yeah, well that's probably how I
know him.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yes, he's a media and basketball commentator. Okay, So basically,
rebuk were one of the leading shoes in the NBA,
so lots of basketball players would wear them. They had
lots of sponsorship deals with players. They dropped and fell
from obscurity. Shaq is back. He's now the president of
rebok Basketball and it's his task, along with the vice president,
Alan Iverson, they're both big basketball players, to relaunch the
(13:08):
rebook basketball shoe brand. If that doesn't sound like something
you're into, that's totally fine. Laura is not gonna watch it,
but maybe you will. If you liked that film by
Ben Affleck Air, which was about making the Air Jordan.
This is like that but real, Okay, that's real.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well it wastflic wasn't involved.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And I'm telling you one hundred percent, Ben Affleck was
not involved. He was like, I'm rich, I love Air
Jordan's let me make a movie about it. This is real.
I love that. What you get at the crux of
this is a massive marketing point. Absolutely. I have the
shoes in my cart to purchase now. But you actually
get to see this side of Shack that we've known
about for a long time, but it is on full
display where he is just this giant and I literally
(13:50):
do mean giant dork. He is goofy, he is silly,
He is the epitome of a gentle giant, but thrown
into this like very corporate world of like how to
make shoes and how to be a professional you know,
sport brand, but with the side of Shack and a
side of Alan Iverson.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Okay, look, I'm I'm not against it. I why I
respect it.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I just don't know if it's for me, but I
respect I respect it.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Thank you. I feel about a lot of other shows you.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Don't have time to go into exactly exactly the other
show I wanted to mention. I feel like this has
just been such a cultural moment that has lasted for
a very long time since it first aired. Which is
Adolescents on Netflix. So that's the British psychological series that
centered on a thirteen year old boy who was arrested
after a murder of a girl in his school. And
(14:41):
there were so many huge takeaways from this show. One
is that it was one of those shows that did
just Usually with Netflix, you can kind of predict what
are going to be these really big talking points and moments,
and like we get to watch them beforehand before they premiere,
and we have these big content plans, and even Netflix
I think was shocked of how quickly this took off
from when they just dropped it onto the platform. There
(15:03):
were so many things at the making of it, in
terms of how they source the cast, and also the
fact that it was all each episode shot in one
continuous movement, which is like performing a live stage, played
perfectly in every take like it's masterful camera work.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
The only other example that I know of that in
my mind that pulled that off incredibly was that film Birdman. Yes, yes,
I can't even imagine what it is like to film
something like that, let alone be on the other side
of the camera and to be performing.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Reading when they were making Adolescents, they would start at like,
you know, the crack of dawn, do their one full
massive sweeping take, and they get one more crack it
up before somedown.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That is a lot of pressure exactly to kind of
get it pitch perfect in all of those moments it
was a difficult watch sometimes, but just the cultural conversations
it started. We had so many people like writing into
us and writing articles and saying that like they either
watched it with their kids or they went into their
kids afterwards to talk to about it. It just launched
all these conversations and yeah, just like one of those
pieces of TV that I feel like it really stays
(16:02):
with you after you've watched it.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I think you're so right. This stirred up so many
conversations and really raised this question that maybe also spread
up bit of panic amongst young parents and people who
are maybe thinking about becoming parents, which we tried to
answer on the Quickie as well, like what is the
answer to the question that adolescence poses? But it turns
out that it's not all doom and gloom, like there
is apparently some you know, hope for the younger generation
(16:26):
that it is good to hear. I think that, like,
you know, it's so easy to say this is one
of those shows that will sweep award season and it
will be given all of the acclaim and victory. But
I do think, like rightfully so that one take thing
we said was really hard to do and it's even
harder to do when it's something of such severe like
serious content. So props to the whole people that were
involved in that.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And if you haven't watched it because you were turned
off by I guess just like the very brutal themes
in it, I'd say still go back and watch it
because you kind of do get swept away in the story.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
It's worth the anxiety. Of course, some.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Only four parts as well, So yeah, you don't have
to commit, you know, nice little Saturday night binge. Sure,
I'm not sure who's watching that on Saturday. I don't
do that absolutely, Okay, change your pace here and heading
across to Disney Plus US for a show and a
man who I love. I think you do as well,
Laura Tucci in Italy.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh yeah, hot and also culturally important but yeah, yeahsally important.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I see a lot of my identity in there.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
But Stanley Tucci is the nine thing.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Whoa that is delicious? Oh man, oh Stummer? Wow, Now
I'm I'm more hungry.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Mit you.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I'm Stanley Tucci, and I believe that the best way
to understand what makes a country and its people unique
is through their food, Okay, Manjamo and this is true
nowhere more than Italy.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, it's a secret.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Oh really, because it's going to go on television and
then we're even the shape of your pasta and the
sauce you serve it with. I love that differentiates the
character and history of each region sharply from the next.
I just know that it is amazing you have sustained
this culture for thousands of years.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Now, I hope that you'll forgive me because this technically
does not break the rules.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Oh rely, and this is gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
So Tucci in Italy not to be confused with Stanley
Tucci searching for Italy, completely different shows. They were on
different network. Okay, that one there was from CNN and
ED and twenty twenty one and twenty two. This is
Tucci in Italy. It's a NAT GEO production which we
get to watch by a Disney plus is the premis
pretty much the same, where Stanley Tucci is just being
(18:46):
adorable and traversing Italy and eating all the food and
engaging with the locals and all the different regions. Absolutely,
am I still going to make a case that you
should watch because it came out this year. Absolutely, that's
all I want from that mean rape.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I just want him to go through Italy, and I
want him to like roll up his shirt sleeves and
show off his little buff tad now. And I want
him to explain to me the different flavors of wine
and the cheese, and why should have a particular sandwich,
why actually get wine from particular places? All I want
from that man, well, that's all you get from exactly that. Well,
that and for him to be in the devil wors
pritus equal. There's two things I want from that man,
and he's delivered one well interestingly.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So the reason that I knew about this show before
any marketing kick me is because he talked about it
literally NonStop, I reckon every chapter. There was a mention
of making this show in his latest book, What I
Ate In One Year. Yeah, But in his memoir that
came out a couple of years ago, he spoke so
fondly of working with Meryl Streep and like they have
this beautiful relationship. And so I'm like, if he's not
(19:41):
in the Devils prior to with Meryl Streep, yeah, I
will be devastated.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well, he's married to Emily Blunt's sister, as well. Oh,
yes they met has become a deaf worst protect which
if you.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Don't know the law buckling, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well he ear Emily Bond DeVos prior and she's like,
you love, my sister introduced them and now they're married
with children.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, and he speaks so lovingly of his wife's solicity.
Just that whole family dynamic is fantastic. But yes, Tucci
in Italy, it does what it says in the box.
It is a box worth opening. I think it's like
six episodes in Disney Pluss.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Oh my god, so lovely. Well, I'm going to keep
us on Disney Plus. But take us to a very
different section, okay, which is the TV show Dying for Sex.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Okay, this TV show, I wonder what it's about.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, I mean, well Bucklin because it doesn't exactly do
what it says in the teen in a way. So
this show has completely stayed with me. And it's based
on a true story. So it's based on the story
of Molly Kochran, who was an American podcaster. She lived
in la and after she was diagnosed with terminal cancer,
she decided to blow up her life. She separated from
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her husband, and she wanted this kind of odyssey to
discover what she wanted from sex, from herself, from partners,
and she documented it all this podcast and Michelle Williams
plays her in the TV show and she is incredible. Like,
I know this is a TV show, but also Michelle
Williams is due her It's time Oscar because she's one
of those actresses who's been so incredible and has been
(21:03):
nominated for an Oscar so many times. And it gets
that point where they'll just give it to her for something,
just for her career. Yeah, And I was like, I know,
like this is breaking the rules, but just give her
the Oscar for dying for sex because it is the
performance of her career.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
She's so incredible, so funny, so heartbreaking. And Jenny Slate
plays her best friend based on the real woman in
the show. And as much as it's a show about
Michelle Williams's character signing out, she has terminal cancer, leaving
her husband who's perfectly lovely, but also going on this
like wild sex odyssey to discover things about herself, mending
her relationship with her a strange mother. It's really about
(21:39):
these two best friends and the way that Jenny Slat's
character is there for her. Like there's such a heartbreaking
scene when Michell Wiams's character is like close to dying
and Jenny Slats's character is supporting her through it all,
and they say to her like should take the breathing tubout,
but she could die, and she's just like I don't know,
Like I haven't slept in days, I haven't showered in weeks.
I'm watching my best friend die. I'm wearing toilet paper
(22:01):
for underwear, and you want me to decide what to do.
And so you have those moments, but you're also funny
moments where she's like re enacting movie scenes in the
hotel room and all. So you have all these like
crazy sex scenes as she discovered what she likes. And
I also think like death is so uncomfortable, Like I
can't stand TV shows and movies that death. I find
it way too confronting. I would just love to pretend
that doesn't happen, but the show makes you confront it
(22:24):
in such an interesting way. Like there's a scene where
one are the nurses who's looking after it comes in
and she gives this speech that's really stayed with me,
where she talks about the fact like your body knows
how to live, but your body knows how to die.
Isn't that amazing? Like your body She's like, you don't
have to worry. When she goes into pallliade of care,
she youn have to worry. Your body knows how to die.
It's going to do this, and then it's going to
do this, and it's going to do this, and then
(22:45):
you're going to go into a euphoria and you're gonna
feel so comfortable because your body is preparing and like
you're watching like Michelle Williams react to that, but I'm
also just watching it as if you were being like,
holy hell, that's amazing, so like dying for sex so good,
Like everyone should watch it, like you'll sob but it's
so worth it.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I think that's a really interesting point about how we
approach death in pop culture and television just in our
everyday lives well, because like, yeah, sure it's inevitable, but
whenever people try to portray that in television and film,
it usually so often misses the mark where they go
too hard with the hand and the comedy or they
go a too sincere and this feels like it strikes
a really nice balance.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Between the two exactly, and the fact that it's also
based on a true story, and like you should definitely
like watch the show and then listen to the podcast because.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
They really go together very well.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, I'm back on my sport beer.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Okay, Oh wow, that another sports show came out.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
This year, Laura. It's very very rare that I get
to come on this podcast. So when I do, I
will abuse the power. Okay, you've seen this though, and
I'm sure that you have a take on it. It's
from Netflix. It's running point.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I work in a family business, the greatest basketball franchise.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
In the history of the game, the Los Angeles Weaves,
and this is the story of the fucked up family
that runs me. I'm making you the president of the Waves.
When I was a little girl, Daddy never believed in me,
and I started to doubt myself.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I need you to stop because I don't care about
any of that shit. You were the president of the
Wais this shocking? Weir on behalf of all women don't
ever make a mistake, and it looks bad for all
of us.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
We're a family, sys we got your back, no matter
what people say. What are they saying, Just the fact
that you're a NEPO baby and you don't know what
you're doing, but you're old, so it's like you're kind
of you're like a nepo chrome. Oh my god, don't
go on red unless you want to kill yourself.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
You are the smartest lord, and I know, I know
that's not a high bar.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Now, we're a family brand.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
You ness and Sandy don't represent our values.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, maybe there's a couple of pictures of my dad
with Saddam Musan, but we are good people.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Hereously, when I die, you suck.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
I want to know what you're going to do to
stop the suck.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I know the record doesn't show it, but this is
a winning loster and I have a team to run.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So if you'll excuse me, wait, this is my office.
You get out.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah. I really liked Wanting Point.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I understand the criticism. Mark Okay, guys, I get it.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay, So if you don't know a Running Point Netflix
comedy series. It was created by Mindy Kayley, who we love.
It stars Kate Hudson as Ela Gordon, who unexpectedly like
becomes the president of the Los Angeles Waves, which is
a basketball team in My Basketball Villain error. But basically
she becomes the president. She's got a couple of brothers
(25:25):
who also work at the family company, and they're all
kind of annoyed that she's the president. She was the
party girl, she was the black sheep, a little bit
of the family, and now she's sort of trumped them
all into this high ranking role and they're conspiring against her.
Nobody thinks she can do this job. She's out to
prove them all wrong. Her best friend slash assistant is
played by Brenda Song, which I know we've already talked
(25:45):
about this, but like, how nice is it to see
Brenda's song back on thres.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That is the best part of that show for being Like,
there's other bits I liked, but it is the best
role that's been written for Brenda, and she just snails.
And I hope she gets all the award nominations for
that role in the comedy genre.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, I'm like pushing for her and Kieran Colkin. I'm
pushing for her and Macaulay Culkin, But like, I would
also be okay if it was Kieran Coulkin to like
play a couple in The White Lotus season.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Four that needs to happen.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, she needs to be on the white Lotus. I
like this show because, like we said, Brenda Song's great,
Kate Hudson's good. But I also love that there's like
a bunch of sort of subplots going on while the
main thing is like her trying to keep the company,
the family business, which is a bloody basketball franchise, while
she's trying to keep it all afloat, like there's a
secret extra brother nobody knows about, hey, And I love
(26:34):
that the brothers that we do know about it are
all very flawed, bad individuals in their own ways. What
did you think, because, like you said, there was a
lot of criticism when this came.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
It was I think there was just so much hype
for it. One is that Mindy Kaling just makes shows
that people feel so strongly about. From the MINDI Project
and all these other TV projects she's done. It was
the first time Kate Hudson had been in a TV
show and like played a role like this, and so
the height from it was huge. Netflix really put it
up as their big comedy of the year, and I
(27:03):
really loved it. But I feel like it did take
a few episodes to find its feet, and I think
it's because the first episode is just like it's like
plot plot plot much almost. Yeah, it kind of felt
like lazy storytelling, but I almost think they just wanted
to pull you into the world really quickly. But a
lot of people, I know, I just watched the first
episode and turned off, which I've been yelling at people
about because it's like, this is Isla Gordon, she does this,
(27:25):
and this is her brother and he does this, and
this is what their dad.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I hate.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, and I know people probably even don't have an
opinion of this will feel very strongly.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I hate when shows like stop freeze frame and then
like scribble on the scroll.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
And that's what they do through the fall.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
They do this episode. They do that so much because
there's like so much to establish the first But I agree,
like you have to persevere through the first episode and
then it ends and it's really like it's not like
a huge twist, but it's an interesting twist.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
It is, And I thought, like, especially it's one on
like it had a lot of heart as well as
being like quite funny, and Kate Hudson just knows how
to carry something that she can carry a movie, she
can carry a TV show. I'm really excited it's coming
back for a second season. Kate Hudson's never played a
character twice because she doesn't do sequels. This is the
first time she gets to revisit a character. And I
find that with Mindy Kayling's writing, it is per effect always.
(28:11):
I'm such a fan girl, But I also find that
as shows go along, she only gets better. So I
for like, season two, it's gonna be where it's at. Yeah,
it'll hit it stride, I hope. Okay, the other TV show.
And I've been obsessed with this and I feel like
the longer it goes on, more people have been too,
which is the studio on Apple TV. Plus you ever
heard so No, but I've heard so much about that.
I think you'd really like. I love seth Rogen. Yes, well,
(28:33):
then you're gonna love this because he stars in it
and he created He was involved in that big Sony
email leak many many years ago, which if you're not
a cross guys, don't worry. We did a whole episode
on it. It's my favorite celebrity Hollywood scandal really when well,
there's so many, but this is so the fact that
all of the emails sent by a list stars and
(28:54):
studio heads were all made public, and you saw what
huge celebrities like Channing Tatum and Seth Rogan stuff were saying,
but also what studio heads were saying about Angelina and
Jolly behind her back. Like I know it was wrapped
up in terrorism, that's really bad, but the juicy Hollywood
gossip that was leaked every day for a month paralleled.
(29:16):
So Seth Rogen, because his movie at the time, was
involved in the Studio League and so he kind of
looked at all of that and use that to make
the Studio. So The Studio is kind of like a
satirical comedy, which is about Seth Rogan who gets made
the head of this very embattled Hollywood studio and he's
has to turn it around. And the cast is incredible.
It's Catherine O'Hara, like Baron Holtz, Chase Sue Wonders, Catherine Hahn,
(29:39):
They're all incredible, and it's got all these like wild
stories about like the inner workings of this Hollywood studio.
But what's really great is they have all these big
stars come in and play caricatures of themsel. Yeah, it
works so well. It's kind of like he's on a
few movies where he has people play themselves. It's always
works so well. But like Olivia Wilde comes in and
plays like a caricature of myself and she's so good.
(30:01):
Zach Efron does it, He's really funny.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Jean Smart does it, Charlie's Throne. I think my favorite
one though, was Muttin's called Sasey playing himself.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Away because he just like what would get it?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I know, like as if he would do that, and
he's so good.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Loki kind of a bastard, right, yeah, but he comes
in and just plays like this wild caricature of himself,
and I'm sure it's actually kind of what he's like,
but like that is just such a wild ride. So
it's already been renewed for a second season, and you
don't have to be super interested like the inner workings
of Hollywood to watch it. You can just watch it
as a comedy. It doesn't even matter if you don't
know who half these people are who are playing themselves,
(30:36):
and some of the best people are playing fictionalized characters.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
So love it. Yeah, so good.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
The other one I want to mention just to Finish
Us Off is a show that came out this year
called The Last Anniversary that came out on Binge. So
it's based on a Leanne Moriarty novel and there's so
many reasons to love it. I think, like, usually when
a TV show comes out that's based on a book,
I've always read the book first because I'm such a
big reader. But this is the one Leanne Moriarty book
I hadn't read, so I got to experience the unfolding
(31:02):
of this cheastory for the first time. So Teresa Palmer
is the lead, and she plays this woman called Sophie.
And this is where things got a bit tense when
I was at the premiere watching it because watching it
in this beautiful theater. And Sophie is a woman living
in Sydney who writes for a women's media publication. She's
in her late thirties. She's going on a series of
bad dates, and when she's ever like stressed out about life,
(31:26):
love or anything, she gets this incredible, like intense flush
through her neck and cheeks.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
How you oh No.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I'm like I was watching it and I literally.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Like, did you know this? When you interviewed Teresa Palmel.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, because I okay, yeah, I interviewed her after the
premiere and I so, in case you don't know me,
that's me, Like that's me to a tea, including the
intense flush, the same age, and even when she was
like she's talking to her ed about stories and she
was like, oh yeah, just do this and do that,
and like just the way she talks about working in
the women's media, I'm like, this is the bad dates everything.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Like it's just so I feel.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Like attacked and I also feel seen. Yeah, So that's
the only part that Sophie and I are the same person.
Because after that, this man that she had dated years
and years and years ago, who's a bit of a jerk,
lets her know that his grandmother has passed away and
left Sophie, his ex girlfriend of many years, her house
on this tiny little island off the coast of norw
(32:20):
South Wales called Scribly Gum Island, and all the family
members live there and there's a mystery attached to the island.
So this is where it's like a love story of
Sophie like moving to the island and living in this
house and trying to discover why it was left to
her and one of the reasons she decides to go
is At the end of the letter, it says, I
think you'll find love here. There's a man that you
should meet. So she goes there and she meets all
(32:41):
these different men, and every time she meets a man,
including a man who she used to date who was
married to her ex boyfriend's cousin.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
It's the whole thing. Oh, it's a whole living on
the island.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, So as much as it's about Sophie like meeting
all these different men, some of them are great, some
of them she has wild sex with, some of them
are awful. It's like also this mystery because the island
Scribbly Gum is known for this mystery where a couple
moved to the island and then they disappeared and a
baby was left and the baby is like a now
a grown up woman living on the island. So then Sophie,
(33:13):
who's a journalist, goes back and tries to like solve
the mystery.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I'm hold it's yeah, I just really loved it.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I found out such as so I went to the
premiere and I watched it and I interviewed Trees of
Palmer and that was amazing. But then every week, and
I got a lot of TV to watch, so I
don't watch stuff unless I have to. But then every
week I turned on Binge to watch the next episode
because I loved the weekly drop, and I just found
like a personal It's got all these incredible, like female
characters like Daniel McDonald's in it as well, But it's
really about all these women in this unconventional family living
(33:39):
on this island, solving the mystery, the love story. But
I also just love when they're just like cooking in
the kitchen and making cakes and drinking wine. I know,
I just really loved it, Like I know keeps people
have watched it and loved it, but I just feel
like more people need to watch it.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I'm sold.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I think you would really love it. Don't if
you haven't read the book, don't google the ending. Okay,
when you find out the mystery of the baby and
how she was left there and how it's like intertwined
with the family, you'll be like, wow, I have.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
So many like peries running through my head, having not
watched or know any of the characters' names. Kayla, bring
us home one more very quick.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Okay, we've done it.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Recently, but in case anyone hasn't watched it adults on
Disney Plus. Yes, and I'm not saying this, guys, one
of the funniest shows I have ever seen, because it's
so rare that I would sit in my apartment alone
and watch a TV show and be hysterically laughing out loud.
And when Emily Vernerm and I did this on Weekend Watch.
We don't look at any other reviews first, so we
watch a show, we give our honest review, and usually
(34:33):
we're like fairly with other people. This was like quite
badly reviewed, and really I would not normally say this
about my colleagues, but they're wrong, and I just don't
think they were watching it. So it's about a group
of four twenty somethings who were living in New York,
like you know, out in the world for the first
time in a sharehouse together and it just tracks their life.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
There's eight episodes.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
They should have been longer. They're like twenty two minutes.
That wasn't enough for me. I needed more. Like Charlie
Cox is in it, He's so funny. Julia Fox does
is an episode playing herself, fantastic, so good. There's so
many laugh out loud moments, so many kind of like
wild moments, Like it starts with a character masturbating on
a train because of me doing it. She's trying to
stand up for women's rights and like you know, and
(35:14):
different quality and stuff. But it is just really funny.
So I'm just saying, like, don't trust the reviews unless
it's my Yeah, don't trust all the reviews. But Adults
is on Disney Plus right now. It's eight episodes or
about twenty minutes each. It just felt so fresh and funny,
and I just really loved it.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
What a way to end public pleasure on or train.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, It's what all TV shows should have obviously.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Laura Rodnet, thank you for having me back. Thank you
for coming on and talking about basketball. I'm sure you
did well.
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Bye Byella.
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Cll it love it,
So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
From Mamma Mia.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm
Laura Brodneck and I'm Taylor Strano and Taylor, you were
here for a very important show. I have been waiting
all year to do this particular episode because on today's
show we are talking about the very best TV shows
that have come out in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Because we're halfway through the year.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, happy into financial year, which.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Is terrifying, Like I'm pushing that thought aside, and I'm
not thinking about how fast time is going, but just
on how many good shows we've had come out this year.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
This has been a very tall order to fulfill. So
I hope that I do the Spiller's justice. I feel
like you and I Laura watch a lot of TV.
We rewatch a lot of comfort TV, so I had
to really think about what I've watched and actually enjoyed
that's been a new release this year.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Okay, so you touch on a good point, because first
we're going to do rules, because what is the pop
culture and entertain podcast without some hard and fast rules
type a girl stuff that if anyone breaks, I will
yell at them. Okay, so not you. No, that was
a dick at Emily Vedam for MG's on the show.
So the criteria for this year that we were looking
at for the ones, we're going to deep dive on
TV shows that have premiered their first season this year,
(01:33):
the brand new TV shows that we were introduced to
to the first time. So we've picked our faves, but
there's a few others we wanted to mention.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yes, honorable mentions, because what is a roundup of the
best TV without a couple of honorable mentions. Now, these
are shows that were technically a new season and this year, however,
not a new show. Of course, we would be so
silly to not talk about The White Lotus. Season three
took us to Thailand this year, brand new cast, although
a couple of returning cast members. It was so nice
(02:02):
to see Natasha Rothwell back in this season. Yes, and
of course I can never remember his name because he
keeps changing it.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Greg Oh yeah, not Greg, yep, evil Greg.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You can even Greg, thank you if you know you
know and if you don't you need to go back
and watch the two seasons. Are you a fan of
The White Lotus?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So see, I mean I have my favorite so season
two of The White Lotus I have watched close to
twenty times. Yeah, that is like just a lot of
something I go back to exactly, And then this new
season I really did love as well. Particularly maybe it's
like season two, season three, then season one.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Hard agree with you there. I think season one was
the worst and I'm like almost fearful that people watch
that and then didn't return for the next No.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I have told so many people to go and watch
season two, and they only have recently because of that.
It's good TV, but it just's the hype of the
other season.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I think the point of difference this season was there's
always like usually one or two standout characters. Obviously Jennifer
Coolige's Tanya is a standout character. Aubrey Plaza was a
standout in season two. This season, I feel like it
was a three way tie between Chelsea Rick and of
course Victoria Ratliffe.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Oh yes, because.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like zi yeah play the clip here of all of
the yeah fabulous one liners.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
We flew over the North Pearl most people don't want
to have good values.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
They're scammers.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
We haven't even seen the place, I.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Promise you it is very legit. The monk who runs
it he has written major books. So Charles Manson wrote books,
Bill Clinton wrote books.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
The list goes on.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
You're young, you're beautiful.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Why are you with this middle aged weirdo?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Pipern so definitely worth an honorable mention. The other one
for me, Laura is Big Mouth, which wrapped up its
eighth and final season. It is such a silly little
show and it is about absolutely like bonkers, batshit adolescents
coming of age hormones. It's really really silly, but it
has such a banging cast, and every season they upped
(03:59):
in and upped it. Like season seven, Megan thee Stallion
appeared and just wrapped in it, and it was just
it's so fun and silly and I really loved it.
What about you? What are some of the honorable mentions
for you this year? Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I mean, I'm going to say Apple Sided Videgar at
the top because that is a new season that came
out this year, but we've just got so many other
entries we had to sort of bump it up the list,
but obviously that was a huge kind of cultural moment
as well as being a TV show that everyone in
the world watched. So we did do a whole brutally
honest review on it that will link in the show notes,
so I'll save all of the chatter about that for there.
(04:30):
Otherwise this podcast is going to be two hours.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I feel like I love that
as well, because it was an Australian story that get
the world and it's always nice when the attention is
on us down under exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Listening to so many of the American podcasts that are
in my weekly podcast rotation, listening to them discover that
show for the first time because they were like, is
it fiction? And in happy google it a podcast? Let
me check, No, this really happened, you know it didn't happen,
And I was like, oh my god, I can't wait
for you guys to realize that this is a real story.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And when you do, go back and listen to the
quickie because we did a what is factory fiction in
apple side of it?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yes, I feel like that's the kind of information that
people are still looking for now they've watched that show. Okay,
So getting into the best new TV shows of the
year so far. What is the first show are you
gonna put out there?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay, the first one that I'm putting out there is
from Netflix is four Seasons. Have you watched this?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, the tinafe One Night.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Tina Fey so created by Tina Fey. It's comedy drama
and there's like this really lovely cast that goes along
with it. So Tina plays Kate and her husband is
played by Will Forte and he plays Jack. And basically
they're these three couples, so like Tina Fey and Will Forte,
Steve Carell's in their Kerrie Kinney, Silver Coleman Domingo, and
Marco Calvanni, and it just sort of tracks their relationships
(05:41):
with each other, with them as individuals, but like also
their intimate partner relationships as they go on these seasonal
couples trips like group trips together. A group trip terrifies me.
I actually hate the idea of it. Really, yes, I've
got issues. I know that the k me problem. The
idea of a group trips.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
This is a horror movie here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Well, I really enjoyed it though, because even though things
do go wrong and one of the relationships breaks down.
There are these really great moments of joy and light
and funny in an otherwise quite dramatic and sometimes sad series.
But what I actually really like about this, Laura, is
I feel like, at the moment, there has been this
massive resurgence in shows about teens or teen dramas, teen comedy,
(06:22):
young adult sort of stuff, and this focuses on characters
that are in that next phase of life and the
complications and the nuance that happens in amongst those storylines.
So I really liked it for that reason. Yeah, you've
seen it, did you?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Now, I really liked it, And I also love that like,
Tina Fey has just been off our screens for so long,
and she obviously does a lot of creating and producing
behind the scenes, but it's the first time she's come
back as a lead actor in a project like this. Like,
I loved her in the show, but I also loved
watching her do the press rounds before it. Because she said,
the day you're allowed to like post reviews, she jumped online.
(06:54):
She was looking at the reviews and the top most
like comment on her review was from a woman called Ronda,
being like Tina Fey is the worst actress in the world,
and she.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Was like, ad, I'm back in the biz, which I
loved for her. Love that A.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Question, though, if you're a really big fan, what did
you think of the fat that it's coming back for
another season, because I found that quite jarring. I thought
it felt like a one and done's show.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, so I hold the unpopular opinion that most television
shows should end after one season.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Okay, you and I do disagree on that.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Mostly I know it is a hill that I'll die
on and we don't have time to go and all
the other examples. This was a one and done for me.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, that's why I thought it was jarring, because this
is one of the rat instances where I agree with you.
Because usually if I love a show, I need ten
seasons minimum and twenty episodes old school TV, that's what
I want. But this one, I'm like, oh, that felt
quite self contained. But it is coming up pro second season,
so we'll see, and.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Then I'm aviously gonna watch it because Clemen Domingo.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
But he was the standout for me. Obviously that man
should be in every single TV show. Well, speaking of
men that feel like they're in a lot of different
TV shows. I mean, this guy's kind of made a
bit of a comeback. I want to talk about The
Pit that's on Max, which has been a huge TV
show that's come out in the second half of this year.
So it's a medical procedural drama, which I try sometimes
not to watch because I am a hypochondriact. I've had
(08:09):
to ban myself from Gray's Anatomy. This is a surprise
take from you, No I know.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Well.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Other thing is like I feel like I'm like I
should say this for the people because like it is
arguably one of the best new TV shows of the year,
but it does make me feel like I'm close to
death as I watch it. So these are the sacrifices
I make for the spillers. So what's interesting about this
is that it's created by a Scott Gemmel and it
stars NOELH. Wiley, And Gammel was actually one of the
big people who created Er, that huge medical show that
(08:36):
was on decades ago now and NOELH. Wiley who's one
of the stars of Er. So like in the original
it was like George Clooney at the start of his
career and Noel Wiley as the two leads of that show.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
People are obsessed with them.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
They played doctors on Friends like that was an injury, remember,
because it was such a big thing. And so in
this it tracks the story of what's happening in an
ear and it does that thing that twenty four did
is that it covers fifteen hours of an er shift,
but every hour in their shift is an hour of
the TV show. So it's super fast paced, super intense.
(09:09):
Noah Wiley's back playing a doctor, but like in R
he was a very young doctor just starting his career,
and in this he's like more of a kind of
seasoned expert.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Okay, my question for you, Laura is I loved Gray's
Anatomy for like maybe the first twelve seasons, but then
it got stuck in that thing of it's a rinse
repeat right, like you go in, there's a medical issue,
let's solved it. Okay, move on to the next episode.
Does the pit fall victim to that or have they
been able to negate to an extent.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It'll be interesting to see what happens with the next
few seasons because right now, like it feels so fresh
because you're getting to know these characters and all the
different doctors, and because it's so fast paced, like every
minute you're watching it is a minute in their lives,
and they're bringing in all these different cases. And because
it's the emergency room, it's very kind of like triage
life or death, getting people in quickly. So it kind
(09:58):
of I think needs a second season to see if
it's gonna wear off. But right now it like weirdly
feels very fresh. Medical shows feel done to death and
it's not all about like doctors hooking up in on.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Kroom and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, which, to be fair, is the only reason I
want to watch goes out to me, like I want
to see people dying. I just want to know about
people hooking up and on call rooms, which apparently doesn't
happen that much, my sister tells me. But interesting fact
about this is like, and I kind of haven't helped
the situation because I just said er about five times.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But the widow of the other creator of EAR is
suing the show because she says like it's damaging the
legacy of r and a blatant ripoff. She was like, basically,
and I'm paraphrasing all her legal documents here, but basically
she's saying, Noah Wiley was a star of R and
he played a doctor, and he's playing a doctor here
with the other people who worked on ER. So she's like,
(10:47):
you've basically taken AR and revamped it into this knockoff
show that's capitalizing on her dead husband's legacy.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And NOELH.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Wiley has put out a statement saying he's really saddened
that this is happening. But yeah, they are getting sued
by ER. So that's a lot to see what happens there.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think to people not yet know that no idea
is original anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I know, No, it's I think it's the fact that
she feels that they're really capitalizing, which is they keep
saying like if you love Dr. Not that their official
marketing says that, but like the vibe online is like
if you love DR. This is ere in a different way. Okay,
so one season of that this year so far. Yes,
I fear that I'm about to lose you. With next recommendation.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Again from Netflix, this is a docu series called Power
Moves based on that name. What do you think it's about?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Okay, I'm intrigued. I'm not completely turned off. Power Moves Dance,
Oh bless you? A little corporate esponage? What something else?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I would wrestling? I would watch the shit out of that.
You piqued my free interests. Okay. Power Moves is a
Netflix docu series that follows NBA legends Shaquille O'Neal and
Allen Iverson as they lead rebox come back from the
brand's Boston headquarters. Does anything from that sentence appeal to you?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I mean, look, I've seen air maybe Michael Jordan's shoes,
so I'm kind of invested. I don't know NBA, which
is basketball well done? And shoes is really like my
two points of interest. Okay, I guess that's so crazy
about teaching you things. I'm probably not gonna watch this
one out there.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
But do you know who Shaquille O'Neal is?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, he's a really famous basketball player, but that's half
the struggle.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, do you know who the other guy was?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Okay, I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I don't know that man, And to be honest, don't
ask many four questions about Shaquille O'Neill.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I just know that he was a basketball player.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
He is really super tall, which the fact that he's
a basketball player, isn't and he's gone to do like
media stuff, right, Yeah, yeah, well that's probably how I
know him.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yes, he's a media and basketball commentator. Okay, So basically,
rebuk were one of the leading shoes in the NBA,
so lots of basketball players would wear them. They had
lots of sponsorship deals with players. They dropped and fell
from obscurity. Shaq is back. He's now the president of
rebok Basketball and it's his task, along with the vice president,
Alan Iverson, they're both big basketball players, to relaunch the
(13:08):
rebook basketball shoe brand. If that doesn't sound like something
you're into, that's totally fine. Laura is not gonna watch it,
but maybe you will. If you liked that film by
Ben Affleck Air, which was about making the Air Jordan.
This is like that but real, Okay, that's real.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well it wastflic wasn't involved.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And I'm telling you one hundred percent, Ben Affleck was
not involved. He was like, I'm rich, I love Air
Jordan's let me make a movie about it. This is real.
I love that. What you get at the crux of
this is a massive marketing point. Absolutely. I have the
shoes in my cart to purchase now. But you actually
get to see this side of Shack that we've known
about for a long time, but it is on full
display where he is just this giant and I literally
(13:50):
do mean giant dork. He is goofy, he is silly,
He is the epitome of a gentle giant, but thrown
into this like very corporate world of like how to
make shoes and how to be a professional you know,
sport brand, but with the side of Shack and a
side of Alan Iverson.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Okay, look, I'm I'm not against it. I why I
respect it.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I just don't know if it's for me, but I
respect I respect it.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Thank you. I feel about a lot of other shows you.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Don't have time to go into exactly exactly the other
show I wanted to mention. I feel like this has
just been such a cultural moment that has lasted for
a very long time since it first aired. Which is
Adolescents on Netflix. So that's the British psychological series that
centered on a thirteen year old boy who was arrested
after a murder of a girl in his school. And
(14:41):
there were so many huge takeaways from this show. One
is that it was one of those shows that did
just Usually with Netflix, you can kind of predict what
are going to be these really big talking points and moments,
and like we get to watch them beforehand before they premiere,
and we have these big content plans, and even Netflix
I think was shocked of how quickly this took off
from when they just dropped it onto the platform. There
(15:03):
were so many things at the making of it, in
terms of how they source the cast, and also the
fact that it was all each episode shot in one
continuous movement, which is like performing a live stage, played
perfectly in every take like it's masterful camera work.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
The only other example that I know of that in
my mind that pulled that off incredibly was that film Birdman. Yes, yes,
I can't even imagine what it is like to film
something like that, let alone be on the other side
of the camera and to be performing.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Reading when they were making Adolescents, they would start at like,
you know, the crack of dawn, do their one full
massive sweeping take, and they get one more crack it
up before somedown.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That is a lot of pressure exactly to kind of
get it pitch perfect in all of those moments it
was a difficult watch sometimes, but just the cultural conversations
it started. We had so many people like writing into
us and writing articles and saying that like they either
watched it with their kids or they went into their
kids afterwards to talk to about it. It just launched
all these conversations and yeah, just like one of those
pieces of TV that I feel like it really stays
(16:02):
with you after you've watched it.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I think you're so right. This stirred up so many
conversations and really raised this question that maybe also spread
up bit of panic amongst young parents and people who
are maybe thinking about becoming parents, which we tried to
answer on the Quickie as well, like what is the
answer to the question that adolescence poses? But it turns
out that it's not all doom and gloom, like there
is apparently some you know, hope for the younger generation
(16:26):
that it is good to hear. I think that, like,
you know, it's so easy to say this is one
of those shows that will sweep award season and it
will be given all of the acclaim and victory. But
I do think, like rightfully so that one take thing
we said was really hard to do and it's even
harder to do when it's something of such severe like
serious content. So props to the whole people that were
involved in that.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And if you haven't watched it because you were turned
off by I guess just like the very brutal themes
in it, I'd say still go back and watch it
because you kind of do get swept away in the story.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
It's worth the anxiety. Of course, some.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Only four parts as well, So yeah, you don't have
to commit, you know, nice little Saturday night binge. Sure,
I'm not sure who's watching that on Saturday. I don't
do that absolutely, Okay, change your pace here and heading
across to Disney Plus US for a show and a
man who I love. I think you do as well,
Laura Tucci in Italy.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh yeah, hot and also culturally important but yeah, yeahsally important.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I see a lot of my identity in there.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
But Stanley Tucci is the nine thing.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Whoa that is delicious? Oh man, oh Stummer? Wow, Now
I'm I'm more hungry.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Mit you.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I'm Stanley Tucci, and I believe that the best way
to understand what makes a country and its people unique
is through their food, Okay, Manjamo and this is true
nowhere more than Italy.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, it's a secret.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Oh really, because it's going to go on television and
then we're even the shape of your pasta and the
sauce you serve it with. I love that differentiates the
character and history of each region sharply from the next.
I just know that it is amazing you have sustained
this culture for thousands of years.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Now, I hope that you'll forgive me because this technically
does not break the rules.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Oh rely, and this is gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
So Tucci in Italy not to be confused with Stanley
Tucci searching for Italy, completely different shows. They were on
different network. Okay, that one there was from CNN and
ED and twenty twenty one and twenty two. This is
Tucci in Italy. It's a NAT GEO production which we
get to watch by a Disney plus is the premis
pretty much the same, where Stanley Tucci is just being
(18:46):
adorable and traversing Italy and eating all the food and
engaging with the locals and all the different regions. Absolutely,
am I still going to make a case that you
should watch because it came out this year. Absolutely, that's
all I want from that mean rape.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I just want him to go through Italy, and I
want him to like roll up his shirt sleeves and
show off his little buff tad now. And I want
him to explain to me the different flavors of wine
and the cheese, and why should have a particular sandwich,
why actually get wine from particular places? All I want
from that man, well, that's all you get from exactly that. Well,
that and for him to be in the devil wors
pritus equal. There's two things I want from that man,
and he's delivered one well interestingly.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So the reason that I knew about this show before
any marketing kick me is because he talked about it
literally NonStop, I reckon every chapter. There was a mention
of making this show in his latest book, What I
Ate In One Year. Yeah, But in his memoir that
came out a couple of years ago, he spoke so
fondly of working with Meryl Streep and like they have
this beautiful relationship. And so I'm like, if he's not
(19:41):
in the Devils prior to with Meryl Streep, yeah, I
will be devastated.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well, he's married to Emily Blunt's sister, as well. Oh,
yes they met has become a deaf worst protect which
if you.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Don't know the law buckling, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well he ear Emily Bond DeVos prior and she's like,
you love, my sister introduced them and now they're married
with children.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, and he speaks so lovingly of his wife's solicity.
Just that whole family dynamic is fantastic. But yes, Tucci
in Italy, it does what it says in the box.
It is a box worth opening. I think it's like
six episodes in Disney Pluss.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Oh my god, so lovely. Well, I'm going to keep
us on Disney Plus. But take us to a very
different section, okay, which is the TV show Dying for Sex.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Okay, this TV show, I wonder what it's about.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, I mean, well Bucklin because it doesn't exactly do
what it says in the teen in a way. So
this show has completely stayed with me. And it's based
on a true story. So it's based on the story
of Molly Kochran, who was an American podcaster. She lived
in la and after she was diagnosed with terminal cancer,
she decided to blow up her life. She separated from
(20:40):
her husband, and she wanted this kind of odyssey to
discover what she wanted from sex, from herself, from partners,
and she documented it all this podcast and Michelle Williams
plays her in the TV show and she is incredible. Like,
I know this is a TV show, but also Michelle
Williams is due her It's time Oscar because she's one
of those actresses who's been so incredible and has been
(21:03):
nominated for an Oscar so many times. And it gets
that point where they'll just give it to her for something,
just for her career. Yeah, And I was like, I know,
like this is breaking the rules, but just give her
the Oscar for dying for sex because it is the
performance of her career.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
She's so incredible, so funny, so heartbreaking. And Jenny Slate
plays her best friend based on the real woman in
the show. And as much as it's a show about
Michelle Williams's character signing out, she has terminal cancer, leaving
her husband who's perfectly lovely, but also going on this
like wild sex odyssey to discover things about herself, mending
her relationship with her a strange mother. It's really about
(21:39):
these two best friends and the way that Jenny Slat's
character is there for her. Like there's such a heartbreaking
scene when Michell Wiams's character is like close to dying
and Jenny Slats's character is supporting her through it all,
and they say to her like should take the breathing tubout,
but she could die, and she's just like I don't know,
Like I haven't slept in days, I haven't showered in weeks.
I'm watching my best friend die. I'm wearing toilet paper
(22:01):
for underwear, and you want me to decide what to do.
And so you have those moments, but you're also funny
moments where she's like re enacting movie scenes in the
hotel room and all. So you have all these like
crazy sex scenes as she discovered what she likes. And
I also think like death is so uncomfortable, Like I
can't stand TV shows and movies that death. I find
it way too confronting. I would just love to pretend
that doesn't happen, but the show makes you confront it
(22:24):
in such an interesting way. Like there's a scene where
one are the nurses who's looking after it comes in
and she gives this speech that's really stayed with me,
where she talks about the fact like your body knows
how to live, but your body knows how to die.
Isn't that amazing? Like your body She's like, you don't
have to worry. When she goes into pallliade of care,
she youn have to worry. Your body knows how to die.
It's going to do this, and then it's going to
do this, and it's going to do this, and then
(22:45):
you're going to go into a euphoria and you're gonna
feel so comfortable because your body is preparing and like
you're watching like Michelle Williams react to that, but I'm
also just watching it as if you were being like,
holy hell, that's amazing, so like dying for sex so good,
Like everyone should watch it, like you'll sob but it's
so worth it.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I think that's a really interesting point about how we
approach death in pop culture and television just in our
everyday lives well, because like, yeah, sure it's inevitable, but
whenever people try to portray that in television and film,
it usually so often misses the mark where they go
too hard with the hand and the comedy or they
go a too sincere and this feels like it strikes
a really nice balance.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Between the two exactly, and the fact that it's also
based on a true story, and like you should definitely
like watch the show and then listen to the podcast because.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
They really go together very well.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, I'm back on my sport beer.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Okay, Oh wow, that another sports show came out.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
This year, Laura. It's very very rare that I get
to come on this podcast. So when I do, I
will abuse the power. Okay, you've seen this though, and
I'm sure that you have a take on it. It's
from Netflix. It's running point.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I work in a family business, the greatest basketball franchise.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
In the history of the game, the Los Angeles Weaves,
and this is the story of the fucked up family
that runs me. I'm making you the president of the Waves.
When I was a little girl, Daddy never believed in me,
and I started to doubt myself.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I need you to stop because I don't care about
any of that shit. You were the president of the
Wais this shocking? Weir on behalf of all women don't
ever make a mistake, and it looks bad for all
of us.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
We're a family, sys we got your back, no matter
what people say. What are they saying, Just the fact
that you're a NEPO baby and you don't know what
you're doing, but you're old, so it's like you're kind
of you're like a nepo chrome. Oh my god, don't
go on red unless you want to kill yourself.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
You are the smartest lord, and I know, I know
that's not a high bar.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Now, we're a family brand.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
You ness and Sandy don't represent our values.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, maybe there's a couple of pictures of my dad
with Saddam Musan, but we are good people.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Hereously, when I die, you suck.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
I want to know what you're going to do to
stop the suck.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I know the record doesn't show it, but this is
a winning loster and I have a team to run.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So if you'll excuse me, wait, this is my office.
You get out.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah. I really liked Wanting Point.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I understand the criticism. Mark Okay, guys, I get it.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay, So if you don't know a Running Point Netflix
comedy series. It was created by Mindy Kayley, who we love.
It stars Kate Hudson as Ela Gordon, who unexpectedly like
becomes the president of the Los Angeles Waves, which is
a basketball team in My Basketball Villain error. But basically
she becomes the president. She's got a couple of brothers
(25:25):
who also work at the family company, and they're all
kind of annoyed that she's the president. She was the
party girl, she was the black sheep, a little bit
of the family, and now she's sort of trumped them
all into this high ranking role and they're conspiring against her.
Nobody thinks she can do this job. She's out to
prove them all wrong. Her best friend slash assistant is
played by Brenda Song, which I know we've already talked
(25:45):
about this, but like, how nice is it to see
Brenda's song back on thres.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That is the best part of that show for being Like,
there's other bits I liked, but it is the best
role that's been written for Brenda, and she just snails.
And I hope she gets all the award nominations for
that role in the comedy genre.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, I'm like pushing for her and Kieran Colkin. I'm
pushing for her and Macaulay Culkin, But like, I would
also be okay if it was Kieran Coulkin to like
play a couple in The White Lotus season.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Four that needs to happen.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, she needs to be on the white Lotus. I
like this show because, like we said, Brenda Song's great,
Kate Hudson's good. But I also love that there's like
a bunch of sort of subplots going on while the
main thing is like her trying to keep the company,
the family business, which is a bloody basketball franchise, while
she's trying to keep it all afloat, like there's a
secret extra brother nobody knows about, hey, And I love
(26:34):
that the brothers that we do know about it are
all very flawed, bad individuals in their own ways. What
did you think, because, like you said, there was a
lot of criticism when this came.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
It was I think there was just so much hype
for it. One is that Mindy Kaling just makes shows
that people feel so strongly about. From the MINDI Project
and all these other TV projects she's done. It was
the first time Kate Hudson had been in a TV
show and like played a role like this, and so
the height from it was huge. Netflix really put it
up as their big comedy of the year, and I
(27:03):
really loved it. But I feel like it did take
a few episodes to find its feet, and I think
it's because the first episode is just like it's like
plot plot plot much almost. Yeah, it kind of felt
like lazy storytelling, but I almost think they just wanted
to pull you into the world really quickly. But a
lot of people, I know, I just watched the first
episode and turned off, which I've been yelling at people
about because it's like, this is Isla Gordon, she does this,
(27:25):
and this is her brother and he does this, and
this is what their dad.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I hate.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, and I know people probably even don't have an
opinion of this will feel very strongly.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I hate when shows like stop freeze frame and then
like scribble on the scroll.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
And that's what they do through the fall.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
They do this episode. They do that so much because
there's like so much to establish the first But I agree,
like you have to persevere through the first episode and
then it ends and it's really like it's not like
a huge twist, but it's an interesting twist.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
It is, And I thought, like, especially it's one on
like it had a lot of heart as well as
being like quite funny, and Kate Hudson just knows how
to carry something that she can carry a movie, she
can carry a TV show. I'm really excited it's coming
back for a second season. Kate Hudson's never played a
character twice because she doesn't do sequels. This is the
first time she gets to revisit a character. And I
find that with Mindy Kayling's writing, it is per effect always.
(28:11):
I'm such a fan girl, But I also find that
as shows go along, she only gets better. So I
for like, season two, it's gonna be where it's at. Yeah,
it'll hit it stride, I hope. Okay, the other TV show.
And I've been obsessed with this and I feel like
the longer it goes on, more people have been too,
which is the studio on Apple TV. Plus you ever
heard so No, but I've heard so much about that.
I think you'd really like. I love seth Rogen. Yes, well,
(28:33):
then you're gonna love this because he stars in it
and he created He was involved in that big Sony
email leak many many years ago, which if you're not
a cross guys, don't worry. We did a whole episode
on it. It's my favorite celebrity Hollywood scandal really when well,
there's so many, but this is so the fact that
all of the emails sent by a list stars and
(28:54):
studio heads were all made public, and you saw what
huge celebrities like Channing Tatum and Seth Rogan stuff were saying,
but also what studio heads were saying about Angelina and
Jolly behind her back. Like I know it was wrapped
up in terrorism, that's really bad, but the juicy Hollywood
gossip that was leaked every day for a month paralleled.
(29:16):
So Seth Rogen, because his movie at the time, was
involved in the Studio League and so he kind of
looked at all of that and use that to make
the Studio. So The Studio is kind of like a
satirical comedy, which is about Seth Rogan who gets made
the head of this very embattled Hollywood studio and he's
has to turn it around. And the cast is incredible.
It's Catherine O'Hara, like Baron Holtz, Chase Sue Wonders, Catherine Hahn,
(29:39):
They're all incredible, and it's got all these like wild
stories about like the inner workings of this Hollywood studio.
But what's really great is they have all these big
stars come in and play caricatures of themsel. Yeah, it
works so well. It's kind of like he's on a
few movies where he has people play themselves. It's always
works so well. But like Olivia Wilde comes in and
plays like a caricature of myself and she's so good.
(30:01):
Zach Efron does it, He's really funny.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Jean Smart does it, Charlie's Throne. I think my favorite
one though, was Muttin's called Sasey playing himself.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Away because he just like what would get it?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I know, like as if he would do that, and
he's so good.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Loki kind of a bastard, right, yeah, but he comes
in and just plays like this wild caricature of himself,
and I'm sure it's actually kind of what he's like,
but like that is just such a wild ride. So
it's already been renewed for a second season, and you
don't have to be super interested like the inner workings
of Hollywood to watch it. You can just watch it
as a comedy. It doesn't even matter if you don't
know who half these people are who are playing themselves,
(30:36):
and some of the best people are playing fictionalized characters.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
So love it. Yeah, so good.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
The other one I want to mention just to Finish
Us Off is a show that came out this year
called The Last Anniversary that came out on Binge. So
it's based on a Leanne Moriarty novel and there's so
many reasons to love it. I think, like, usually when
a TV show comes out that's based on a book,
I've always read the book first because I'm such a
big reader. But this is the one Leanne Moriarty book
I hadn't read, so I got to experience the unfolding
(31:02):
of this cheastory for the first time. So Teresa Palmer
is the lead, and she plays this woman called Sophie.
And this is where things got a bit tense when
I was at the premiere watching it because watching it
in this beautiful theater. And Sophie is a woman living
in Sydney who writes for a women's media publication. She's
in her late thirties. She's going on a series of
bad dates, and when she's ever like stressed out about life,
(31:26):
love or anything, she gets this incredible, like intense flush
through her neck and cheeks.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
How you oh No.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I'm like I was watching it and I literally.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Like, did you know this? When you interviewed Teresa Palmel.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, because I okay, yeah, I interviewed her after the
premiere and I so, in case you don't know me,
that's me, Like that's me to a tea, including the
intense flush, the same age, and even when she was
like she's talking to her ed about stories and she
was like, oh yeah, just do this and do that,
and like just the way she talks about working in
the women's media, I'm like, this is the bad dates everything.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Like it's just so I feel.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Like attacked and I also feel seen. Yeah, So that's
the only part that Sophie and I are the same person.
Because after that, this man that she had dated years
and years and years ago, who's a bit of a jerk,
lets her know that his grandmother has passed away and
left Sophie, his ex girlfriend of many years, her house
on this tiny little island off the coast of norw
(32:20):
South Wales called Scribly Gum Island, and all the family
members live there and there's a mystery attached to the island.
So this is where it's like a love story of
Sophie like moving to the island and living in this
house and trying to discover why it was left to
her and one of the reasons she decides to go
is At the end of the letter, it says, I
think you'll find love here. There's a man that you
should meet. So she goes there and she meets all
(32:41):
these different men, and every time she meets a man,
including a man who she used to date who was
married to her ex boyfriend's cousin.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
It's the whole thing. Oh, it's a whole living on
the island.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, So as much as it's about Sophie like meeting
all these different men, some of them are great, some
of them she has wild sex with, some of them
are awful. It's like also this mystery because the island
Scribbly Gum is known for this mystery where a couple
moved to the island and then they disappeared and a
baby was left and the baby is like a now
a grown up woman living on the island. So then Sophie,
(33:13):
who's a journalist, goes back and tries to like solve
the mystery.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I'm hold it's yeah, I just really loved it.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I found out such as so I went to the
premiere and I watched it and I interviewed Trees of
Palmer and that was amazing. But then every week, and
I got a lot of TV to watch, so I
don't watch stuff unless I have to. But then every
week I turned on Binge to watch the next episode
because I loved the weekly drop, and I just found
like a personal It's got all these incredible, like female
characters like Daniel McDonald's in it as well, But it's
really about all these women in this unconventional family living
(33:39):
on this island, solving the mystery, the love story. But
I also just love when they're just like cooking in
the kitchen and making cakes and drinking wine. I know,
I just really loved it, Like I know keeps people
have watched it and loved it, but I just feel
like more people need to watch it.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I'm sold.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I think you would really love it. Don't if
you haven't read the book, don't google the ending. Okay,
when you find out the mystery of the baby and
how she was left there and how it's like intertwined
with the family, you'll be like, wow, I have.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
So many like peries running through my head, having not
watched or know any of the characters' names. Kayla, bring
us home one more very quick.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Okay, we've done it.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Recently, but in case anyone hasn't watched it adults on
Disney Plus. Yes, and I'm not saying this, guys, one
of the funniest shows I have ever seen, because it's
so rare that I would sit in my apartment alone
and watch a TV show and be hysterically laughing out loud.
And when Emily Vernerm and I did this on Weekend Watch.
We don't look at any other reviews first, so we
watch a show, we give our honest review, and usually
(34:33):
we're like fairly with other people. This was like quite
badly reviewed, and really I would not normally say this
about my colleagues, but they're wrong, and I just don't
think they were watching it. So it's about a group
of four twenty somethings who were living in New York,
like you know, out in the world for the first
time in a sharehouse together and it just tracks their life.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
There's eight episodes.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
They should have been longer. They're like twenty two minutes.
That wasn't enough for me. I needed more. Like Charlie
Cox is in it, He's so funny. Julia Fox does
is an episode playing herself, fantastic, so good. There's so
many laugh out loud moments, so many kind of like
wild moments, Like it starts with a character masturbating on
a train because of me doing it. She's trying to
stand up for women's rights and like you know, and
(35:14):
different quality and stuff. But it is just really funny.
So I'm just saying, like, don't trust the reviews unless
it's my Yeah, don't trust all the reviews. But Adults
is on Disney Plus right now. It's eight episodes or
about twenty minutes each. It just felt so fresh and funny,
and I just really loved it.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
What a way to end public pleasure on or train.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, It's what all TV shows should have obviously.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Laura Rodnet, thank you for having me back. Thank you
for coming on and talking about basketball. I'm sure you
did well.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Thank you so much Taylor for joining us today, and
thank you to you all for listening to the spill.
And don't forget to follow us on Instagram and TikTok
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(36:05):
three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Bye Byella.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Cll it love it,
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