April 7, 2025 • 20 mins
On the show today Married At First Sight delivered an intriguing plot twist just as the season is finishing and the main cameras missed it all.
And actor Russell Brand has been charged with rape, indecent assault and sexual assault. Now we need to talk about the bizarre video he released in response.
Plus, Robert Irwin sent the world into a meltdown with some photos that were shared over the weekend and now we have to have a slightly not safe for work conversation…
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
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that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
From Mamma Mia.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Welcome to this spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm
Laura Brodnick and today I'm joined by It's Me.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm back, It's Kelly mccaren.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Last week, I was hopefully I'll be back at one
point in the future week psych Only less than a
week later, and I'm back.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You're back on our favorite orange couch.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yes, we are very comfortable, and I'll be filling in
for the beautiful m over the next couple of days,
but she will be back, don't you worry.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yes, so well, we have a lot of things to
discuss today because it was a very solemn filled Newsy weekend,
both with some fun stuff and some very disturbing stuff.
So today we are going to get into the allegations
against Russell Brand and the video response he made, which
is just I don't have words for this, so or
just play it and you guys can hear it for yourself.
Plus the photos that's and mostly elder millennial women into
(01:13):
an absolute frantic meltdown over the weekend. We're going to
get into that. But yesterday we had some breaking merit
at First Night News as we head into the final
few episodes. So this happened at a viewing party that
was held in Sydney by the So Dramatic podcast and
in it. So if you're not super across the Maths universe,
and I understand that a lot of people might not be, because.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
She's basically seeing this for me because I've never watched
one episode a.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Lot happening this season. There's a lot of different people,
there's a lot of break people. So it's been a
particular I think.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Quite brutal.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I mean, they're all a bit brutal, but this one
has just felt particularly like a lot of the women
in particular had a really bad run. So we've ended
on kind of a nice note, depending how you look
at it, and that is that two contestants from the show,
Jackie and Clint, got engaged last night at the viewing party.
So they were standing up the host of Sodramatic was,
you know, talking to the crowd, and then Clint said,
(02:05):
I've got something to ask you and he got down
on one knee in front of a Jackie yes, with
a thirty one thousand dollars custom made ring.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh was it sponsored by their jeweler?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I do believe there was something that I don't know
for sure. I won't speculate.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It must be love, love, love, true love.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So the interesting thing is that these kids were not
matched on the show. They were matched with different people,
and they have since fallen in love and they are
gandalous getting married.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Over the past couple of months. And now they're engaged.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yes, and now they're engaged.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh, things move fast in TV land. I'm mate. Yes,
so clink. We've talked about a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But Jackie has really been one of the breakout stars
of this and not in the best way, one of
the breakout stars from this season, because she was the
one that initially got quite a bit of hate from viewers.
People thought she was too emotional, she was crying too much,
she was not giving her fake husband a chance. And
then she's the one that started going rogue on her
Instagram and her social accounts while the show was airing,
(02:58):
which you're not supposed to do. But she was like,
I'm painted, yeah, she was like she was really honest.
She was like the edit, you're seeing is not me, Like, yes,
I cried at that moment, but it's making it look
like I did it at the beginning of the night.
Ins it was the end of the night when like
crazy things had happened. Basically, she was saying she was
being painted as this like crazy woman and.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
People that go on these show still surprised when that happens.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I know, I think, you know, you see some people
get a good edit and you know all these sorts
of things, or you think like, oh, I'll just be
really reserved and like they won't be able to find anything.
But once you filmed for fifteen hours and they cut
it all together, this is what she's saying. They did.
They cut pieces together to make it look like she
was crazy. So then people were calling her out for that.
People were saying, did she have an autism diagnosis? She
(03:40):
had to go on and talk about that. All got
really personal, and at the same time, her husband was
the one who was saying that he couldn't have sex
with her, which is his prerogative before he went to
the gym because it like took away his manly strength.
There was a lot of back and forth if he
jeersed first, yeah, actually do you know what, I have heard.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
That because they're losing the ough that they needed to share.
That was beautiful demonstration.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I'm just actually, while you're talking, like imagining you and
I the edits that we would get on the reality
TV show. You would just get like a montage every
episode of you, like fiddling with your hair, fiddling with things.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yes, that one hundred percent. Because I'm a head. No,
I think because I can be really dramatic. I think
I would come across as unhinged, unhinged and very unlikable.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Unlikable, No, I would be.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Because my kind of personality doesn't translate well to reality.
It's like the same thing as it doesn't translate well
to if you listen to this pod just once, you've
got to really get in there. You've got to be
a proper spillt a lie. Yeah, you've got to be
a spiller to like me. Whereas I feel like you
could be like the breakout fund.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
No no no no no no no. I say we
both could go either way. Yeah exactly, but I say
far too.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Many things that I would just get in serious trouble for.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Well, that's the thing most people wouldn't come across reality TV,
because most people in a really heightened situation where you're
there to have some sort of peril and drama and
then you get cut up in little pieces with your
edit and you know, broadcast across all these different episodes,
most people wouldn't come out exactly way. So yeah, Jackie
and Clint engaged. Congrats those crazy kids. Hope they can
(05:09):
make it worse. They have both been through the ringer
a bit with this whole season, so well, be nice
to see if.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It works out. Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Can't wait for the exclusive special in the weekly magazine Yes, No, No.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
No, No.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So this week it has been confirmed that Russell Brand,
who I think everyone does know his name, but very
well known actor, comedian, podcaster, author, has been charged with
rape in decent assault and sexual assault which occurred between
the years of nineteen ninety nine and two thousand and five.
And these charges relate to four separate women. These are
really disturbing allegations. Just to heads up everyone who's listening.
(05:45):
So leading back to this, yeah, if you find it difficult,
we won't go into any of the really intense backgrounds,
just the overall allegations. But leading up to this, Russell
Brand had been interviewed multiple times by police about the
incidents just as they were gathering all the information. And
this was all kicked off by an investigation actually that
was done by the Sunday Times, The Times and Channel
(06:07):
four's dispatches back in September of twenty twenty. So there
had been like a few rumblings leading up to this,
but nothing concrete, no reports from any news outlets anything
like that. And when this investigation came out with all
of these really serious allegations against him, it kind of
blew up everywhere. And now the charges are being formalized,
(06:27):
so he is being charged with In nineteen ninety nine,
a woman was raped in the Bournemouth area. In two
thousand and one, a woman was indecently assaulted in the
Westminster area of London. In two thousand and four, a
woman was orally raped and sexually assaulted in the Westminster
area of London, and between two thousand and four and
two thousand and five a woman was sexually assaulted in
(06:48):
the Westminster area of London. So they're the allegations that
the Metropolitan Police have put forward against Russell Brand He's
only been formally charged at this stage, so now it's
like the next sort of you know, the court appearances
and all that sort of stuff to see if he'll
be found guilty or innocence. So allegations at this stage,
but multiple allegations that have enough information behind them so
the police to charge him, which is always the hardest
(07:10):
in these kinds of cases, especially ones that could have
happened like over twenty years ago. But the fact that
he's been formally charged means they have enough evidence for
it to go that far, and so that's a that's
a huge thing. And I think a lot of people
are reeling over this news because he was such a
beloved performer for so long.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I don't even know what it was, but I just
feel a little bit icky that I've been to several
of his live shows.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
No, but I think that that's fine, Like we don't
know about these and this is the thing. Anytime like
an allegation comes out, it just I think goes to
show that there's no type of person.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Or person he was so like, yeah, I think you know,
forgetting Sarah Marshall take my eyes but not my shirt,
a truly iconic character that sort of paved many memes
and many quotes for so long. Oh it's so disappointing
every single time that one of these charges gets laid,
because it's just another person that we just go, are
(08:05):
there any good people? Are there any Are there any
good chocolates in the chocolate box?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
And also someone that like a lot of people look
to him for like distraction and comfort, whether it was
through his movies, through his books.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And he's spoken so much about mental health and his
sobriety journey.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And he's born or whatever, and it's he his comedy
or his like appearance on talk shows, like you know
how like you can go just go search like I
would go on TikTok or YouTube before TikTok was a thing,
and just like watch Russell Brand, you know when you
just like trying to like quite your mind down and
have a little break, Like watch his appearance on talk
shows because he was so funny and so entertaining and
so over the top, and a lot of his you know,
people that he was a guest on a talk show
(08:40):
with have these wild reactions to him. So he was
that really beloved figure.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And that he's just also a dirty, dirty dog.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, yeah, Well that's definitely the allegation and then in
the last couple of years. I mean, he's married now
with kids, but that's not the reason he kind of
moved away from the spotlight. Like a few of these
allegations started coming out, but he also became like very conspiratory,
very much like I'm going to speak to you on
my separate channels. We can't trust the world, we can't
trust the media, we can't trust anything. And so a
lot of people have kind of put out the argument
(09:09):
that him might have known that a lot of these
allegations could come out, or he known that they were
in the works, and so he already started building his
own way to talk to, you know, his fans and
to build up this base. And he's got everyone being
like he's like a question, yeah, one hundred per He's
literally leading in that direction, and he's very much like,
don't listen to you know, mainstream media. Don't listen to
(09:30):
the allegations, and just so you know, they're going to
try and turn you against me. So now that that
these allegations have come out, along with denying them, he's
also saying like, see, guys, I told you this is
going to happen. So a lot of people are already
really primed to believe what he's seeing. So after it
came out that these charges had been laid, he put
out this video which was kind of like a direct
(09:50):
speaking to his fans.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Hello. Firstly, thank you for these incredible and overwhelming messages
of support. We're very fortunate in a way to live
in a time where there's so little trust in the
British government. We're very fortunate. I suppose that this is
happening at a time where we know that the law
has become a kind of weapon to be used against people,
(10:12):
institutions and sometimes entire nations that will not accept and
tolerate levels of corruption that are unprecedented. And I'm speaking particularly
to those of you that are watching in the UK.
How do you feel about your legal system right now?
How do you feel about some of the high profile
cases that are not being pursued and prosecuted. How do
you feel that the Southport murders were handled? How do
(10:34):
you feel about the government of Keir Starmer. Now that's
just sort of general context me. I've always told you
guys that when I was young and single, before I
had my wife and family who were just that a
shot over there, my beautiful children. I was a fool man.
I was a fool before I lived in the Likely Lord.
I was a drug addict, a sex addict, and an imbecile.
(10:55):
But what it never was was a rapist. I've never
engaged in non consensual activity. I pray that you can
see that by looking in my eyes. I want to
thank all of you for your continuing support. I want
to let you know that our show will be on
Rumble on Monday. Thanks for your support there. And of
course I'm not going to have the opportunity to defend
these charges in court, and I'm incredibly grateful for that.
(11:17):
In the meantime, you lot stay free and we will
be continuing to discuss this matter. Praise the Lord.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
He sounds like a manic lunatic. Yeah, not one thing
that he just said makes sense.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, I really don't like the idea that and he's
spent a lot of time doing this. He's correlated this
idea that you believe the allegations from all of these women,
then you're somehow like out of the loop. You've been
caught out. You don't understand the system, like he's really
made it, as if this is like a trap that
stupid people fall into instead of addressing like the very
(11:52):
real allegations and like the horrible things that these women
allege that he's done to them, which is a lot
of the sort of information that's come out is quite
upsetting and quite graphic. And I also hate that idea
when men are like, yeah, I was a bit you know, I.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Was back when i was silly back in the day.
But now I've got God and my wife and my kids.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I hate when people aren't so many kids, you wido, Yeah,
one hundred percent, people who pull in like, oh, maybe
they can't be trusted, eh what as we know, they're
only allegations at this stage. But even for them him
to be charged, as I said before, it's not easy
to charge someone's so hard, and that's why so many
women don't find it very hard. Yeah, but in these
situations to come forward, because they are so meticulously questioned,
(12:33):
they have to have so much information, there has to
be evidence. They have to go through this information again
and again and again. Like it is so brutal on
alleged victim who comes forward and for it to get
to the stage. And also, as Russell Brandt has been saying,
the police said they've been questioning him about this for
a very very long time, even for that huge news
report to come out in previous years, like in order
(12:53):
to like cite stuff like defamation laws and all that
sort of stuff, like you have to have the evidence
to prove that what you're saying is true. So that's
all we know at the stage about the case. Obviously
they're you know, still interviewing him. The charges have been laid,
so it's going to go through you know, the court system,
So I think this will be quite an ongoing case.
But I think as we what the court case unfold,
we're going to be seeing a lot more from Russell
(13:14):
Brand kind of breaking through and trying to set up
this idea that he's living outside the law and that
anyone who listens to these allegations is being tricked.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And it's something a little bit lighter. Yeah, please taking
my mind.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Off of that.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Well, I think everyone's mind was taken off everything on
Friday when Bonds broke the internet with their new campaign
made for down Under featuring Ossie Darling Robert Irwin. Now,
he was covered with lots of wildlife, which made me
very uncomfortable for someone that doesn't really like nature.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I love that was your takeaway, Like I'll take that
young naked man, but not those animals.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
He wasn't naked.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
He was wearing his Bonds underwear, and the Internet simply
did not cope. Bonds and Tea together collectively broke the Internet.
I have not seen such public enjoyment.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
For so long, and I just.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Think the entire Bonds marketing team deserve a really good
raise because well done.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Well done. Those headlines they really did.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
They got headlines on pretty much every single news channel
and then every social media platform just absolutely blew up
like everyone was having a say, millennial mums, millennial aunts,
millennials in general were just like, oh, I feel so uncomfortable,
Like I knew him when he was a baby, or
I saw him on TV when he was a baby.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
The commentary was just so funny. What's his park that
he owns?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Australian Yeah, Sunshine Coast.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Anyone that went there.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Over the weekend people were tiktoking it like, and they
had the music that the campaign was back to that
zooming in on him being like.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Because when he's there, he goes into the enclosure and
does the crocodile show and all of that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
He does it all.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
He's a very entertaining young man.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
But the commentary around it was just so funny. Like
Gatara Pavlovic, she's been on the pot I think a
couple of times. She did the funniest video where she
just like opens her phone and just spits out her
tea everywhere. She's basically like mums everywhere. This same someone
commented Robert, I'm trying to lesbian over here. Someone else said,
never in my wildest dream did I think I'd see
(15:16):
Bob Irwin as a snack lit Bob got sexy and
not even I know how to process this information. Other
people were like, I'm turning myself into the police right now.
And the thing is is that there's not many people
that ninety five percent of the population were in agreement over,
like straight men, gay women. Everyone was like, this gorgeous,
(15:37):
gorgeous humor.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Is a hot man. He's just beautiful and he was
eating it up.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
He loved it, he loved posting the first traps and
he's really leaning into it and he's having a lot
of fun with it, and I think it's great.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, I've never seen before as like Australia have such
a public reckoning with itself or the one moment, because
it was like if you were on line and watching
any and not just like media accounts, but like my
friends who are you know, from high school, who are
not even in that world at all, like seeing them
posting about it and things like that, and it was
like we all have the action of like, oh, what's this.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Oh my dear god, is that Robert Irwin? Oh my god,
it looks uncomfortable. He's sexy.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, I'm sure everyone was googling. His age is twenty one,
by the way, if anyone was concerned, completely legal years
of age. Everyone, and he is having fun. He's having
the best time. And so you saw everyone get really
excited and then be horrified and then be confused. And
that's what everyone was kind of sharing of, like I
love these photos, but I feel bad for it, And
so everyone was sharing that because everyone wanted reassurance from
(16:34):
everyone else that they weren't being the creepy one. Yeah,
and we're all being a little bit creepy, but it
was fun because we've been creepy together exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
We're being collectively creepy.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
And I also think sometimes it's really nice to have
those moments of lightness and amongst social media and vicious
news cycles and awful things happening.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, well, sometimes it's really fun just to open up
our phone and see everyone collectively and.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Collectively man who by all accounts is lovely, which makes it,
you know, kind of like less.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Crocodile astar Publovic holded and like, goodness, we're just having
a bit of fun.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I think one of the reasons why people were so
stressed about it, like people were stressed, like didn't have
to feel they're freaking out.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I know.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
It was some cranky people and some people were angry.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yes, And I think like there's a lot of celebrities
who are around that age who like we really publicly
thirst over, you know, people on you know whatever.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Movie Land or whatever. He's not, Oh, I think he's
quite a bit older. Oh okay, but I felt like
that whole teen pop star because we saw him on TV.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
One hundred percent. That's the reason why it's like usually
when a teen star burst, I know he's an adult,
he's in his twenties, but usually someone who's super young
who people start lasting over like we see them as
kind of an adult and you're introduced to them that way,
whereas with Robert slash Bob Irwin, a lot of people
are sort of going back and forth on his name.
He calls himself Robert, so I guess that's what we'll say.
But with Robert Irwin, like Robert, do you reckon Bobby?
(17:56):
I would say, Bobby, I've only ever met him briefly,
really once, and he's like, wait alone that it wasn't
the stuff child at the time, maybe like a year
ago to I don't even remember. You know, one of
those network things. He does a lot of TV now,
so he's at those things and he said, hello.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'm Robert.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So oh, it's all very serious. It's very serious, young man.
But I think a lot of people like I saw
so many photos of him as a baby, and people
like I saw his first birthday and I saw him five,
and they shared photos of him on his first day
of school, we saw his high school graduation, like he's
so grown up in the public school.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
You know what I think is way weirder. Yeah, that
we were so invested in a little kid. Okay, why
are we sharing photos of his first day school?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's weird. No, I know, the less weird to thirst
over a twenty one year old.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, potentially, But I just think like that's such a
beloved Australian family and people loved his father so much
and still do and people love Bindi Iowen and his
mom and it just like and they've been such a
public family. I think people kind of feel like a
very protective sense over all of them, which I think
is why some people were upset about the photos. But
like he made the choice. He's a TV presenter now,
he does a lot of publicity.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
He said a lot of recarpet.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Trying to do lots of different crazy things and things
that I'm not used to doing.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
And he knew what he was doing and he's having fun.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
With it, yeah exactly. And he was in a relationship
for a one He's very public about that and they
used to post all their photos together and they put
out a public statement when they broke up and all
that sort of thing. So I think he probably knows
that if he doesn't say it, they'll be, you know,
all these kind of tabloody articles, so he puts it
out there. But he is I think, really kind of
prepping himself to be like an international style. He's done
(19:27):
a lot of the international talk shows. He goes to
America a lot.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
He's got that and I think Ossy accent down path
like he is.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It's amazing. He's worth I reckon, I'm calling it. He's
going to be bigger than a ham Sto. Wow. Okay,
well you heard of has beloved Ossie icon.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yes, yes, totally agree and just look for everyone out
there who's stressed. If he gets a joy from those abs.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's okay, he's an adult, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Well, thank you so much for listening to The Spell today.
And it is a White Lotus finale day today, So
if you want a little bit more behind the scenes,
we actually had a few of the cast members on
Friday's episode of The Spill and we went into what
it was like behind the scenes of the show. We
went into kind of some of the bigger moments that
people might of missed and also a bit of alluding
(20:12):
to the finale build up. So listen to that if
you haven't already. And The Spill is produced by Ned
Green and Scott Stronnick. And we'll see you back here
on your podcast feed at three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Bye bye.
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Welcome to this spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm back, It's Kelly mccaren.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Last week, I was hopefully I'll be back at one
point in the future week psych Only less than a
week later, and I'm back.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You're back on our favorite orange couch.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yes, we are very comfortable, and I'll be filling in
for the beautiful m over the next couple of days,
but she will be back, don't you worry.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yes, so well, we have a lot of things to
discuss today because it was a very solemn filled Newsy weekend,
both with some fun stuff and some very disturbing stuff.
So today we are going to get into the allegations
against Russell Brand and the video response he made, which
is just I don't have words for this, so or
just play it and you guys can hear it for yourself.
Plus the photos that's and mostly elder millennial women into
(01:13):
an absolute frantic meltdown over the weekend. We're going to
get into that. But yesterday we had some breaking merit
at First Night News as we head into the final
few episodes. So this happened at a viewing party that
was held in Sydney by the So Dramatic podcast and
in it. So if you're not super across the Maths universe,
and I understand that a lot of people might not be, because.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
She's basically seeing this for me because I've never watched
one episode a.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Lot happening this season. There's a lot of different people,
there's a lot of break people. So it's been a
particular I think.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Quite brutal.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I mean, they're all a bit brutal, but this one
has just felt particularly like a lot of the women
in particular had a really bad run. So we've ended
on kind of a nice note, depending how you look
at it, and that is that two contestants from the show,
Jackie and Clint, got engaged last night at the viewing party.
So they were standing up the host of Sodramatic was,
you know, talking to the crowd, and then Clint said,
(02:05):
I've got something to ask you and he got down
on one knee in front of a Jackie yes, with
a thirty one thousand dollars custom made ring.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh was it sponsored by their jeweler?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I do believe there was something that I don't know
for sure. I won't speculate.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It must be love, love, love, true love.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So the interesting thing is that these kids were not
matched on the show. They were matched with different people,
and they have since fallen in love and they are
gandalous getting married.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Over the past couple of months. And now they're engaged.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yes, and now they're engaged.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh, things move fast in TV land. I'm mate. Yes,
so clink. We've talked about a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But Jackie has really been one of the breakout stars
of this and not in the best way, one of
the breakout stars from this season, because she was the
one that initially got quite a bit of hate from viewers.
People thought she was too emotional, she was crying too much,
she was not giving her fake husband a chance. And
then she's the one that started going rogue on her
Instagram and her social accounts while the show was airing,
(02:58):
which you're not supposed to do. But she was like,
I'm painted, yeah, she was like she was really honest.
She was like the edit, you're seeing is not me, Like, yes,
I cried at that moment, but it's making it look
like I did it at the beginning of the night.
Ins it was the end of the night when like
crazy things had happened. Basically, she was saying she was
being painted as this like crazy woman and.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
People that go on these show still surprised when that happens.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I know, I think, you know, you see some people
get a good edit and you know all these sorts
of things, or you think like, oh, I'll just be
really reserved and like they won't be able to find anything.
But once you filmed for fifteen hours and they cut
it all together, this is what she's saying. They did.
They cut pieces together to make it look like she
was crazy. So then people were calling her out for that.
People were saying, did she have an autism diagnosis? She
(03:40):
had to go on and talk about that. All got
really personal, and at the same time, her husband was
the one who was saying that he couldn't have sex
with her, which is his prerogative before he went to
the gym because it like took away his manly strength.
There was a lot of back and forth if he
jeersed first, yeah, actually do you know what, I have heard.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
That because they're losing the ough that they needed to share.
That was beautiful demonstration.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I'm just actually, while you're talking, like imagining you and
I the edits that we would get on the reality
TV show. You would just get like a montage every
episode of you, like fiddling with your hair, fiddling with things.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yes, that one hundred percent. Because I'm a head. No,
I think because I can be really dramatic. I think
I would come across as unhinged, unhinged and very unlikable.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Unlikable, No, I would be.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Because my kind of personality doesn't translate well to reality.
It's like the same thing as it doesn't translate well
to if you listen to this pod just once, you've
got to really get in there. You've got to be
a proper spillt a lie. Yeah, you've got to be
a spiller to like me. Whereas I feel like you
could be like the breakout fund.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
No no no no no no no. I say we
both could go either way. Yeah exactly, but I say
far too.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Many things that I would just get in serious trouble for.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Well, that's the thing most people wouldn't come across reality TV,
because most people in a really heightened situation where you're
there to have some sort of peril and drama and
then you get cut up in little pieces with your
edit and you know, broadcast across all these different episodes,
most people wouldn't come out exactly way. So yeah, Jackie
and Clint engaged. Congrats those crazy kids. Hope they can
(05:09):
make it worse. They have both been through the ringer
a bit with this whole season, so well, be nice
to see if.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It works out. Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Can't wait for the exclusive special in the weekly magazine Yes, No, No.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
No, No.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So this week it has been confirmed that Russell Brand,
who I think everyone does know his name, but very
well known actor, comedian, podcaster, author, has been charged with
rape in decent assault and sexual assault which occurred between
the years of nineteen ninety nine and two thousand and five.
And these charges relate to four separate women. These are
really disturbing allegations. Just to heads up everyone who's listening.
(05:45):
So leading back to this, yeah, if you find it difficult,
we won't go into any of the really intense backgrounds,
just the overall allegations. But leading up to this, Russell
Brand had been interviewed multiple times by police about the
incidents just as they were gathering all the information. And
this was all kicked off by an investigation actually that
was done by the Sunday Times, The Times and Channel
(06:07):
four's dispatches back in September of twenty twenty. So there
had been like a few rumblings leading up to this,
but nothing concrete, no reports from any news outlets anything
like that. And when this investigation came out with all
of these really serious allegations against him, it kind of
blew up everywhere. And now the charges are being formalized,
(06:27):
so he is being charged with In nineteen ninety nine,
a woman was raped in the Bournemouth area. In two
thousand and one, a woman was indecently assaulted in the
Westminster area of London. In two thousand and four, a
woman was orally raped and sexually assaulted in the Westminster
area of London, and between two thousand and four and
two thousand and five a woman was sexually assaulted in
(06:48):
the Westminster area of London. So they're the allegations that
the Metropolitan Police have put forward against Russell Brand He's
only been formally charged at this stage, so now it's
like the next sort of you know, the court appearances
and all that sort of stuff to see if he'll
be found guilty or innocence. So allegations at this stage,
but multiple allegations that have enough information behind them so
the police to charge him, which is always the hardest
(07:10):
in these kinds of cases, especially ones that could have
happened like over twenty years ago. But the fact that
he's been formally charged means they have enough evidence for
it to go that far, and so that's a that's
a huge thing. And I think a lot of people
are reeling over this news because he was such a
beloved performer for so long.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I don't even know what it was, but I just
feel a little bit icky that I've been to several
of his live shows.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
No, but I think that that's fine, Like we don't
know about these and this is the thing. Anytime like
an allegation comes out, it just I think goes to
show that there's no type of person.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Or person he was so like, yeah, I think you know,
forgetting Sarah Marshall take my eyes but not my shirt,
a truly iconic character that sort of paved many memes
and many quotes for so long. Oh it's so disappointing
every single time that one of these charges gets laid,
because it's just another person that we just go, are
(08:05):
there any good people? Are there any Are there any
good chocolates in the chocolate box?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
And also someone that like a lot of people look
to him for like distraction and comfort, whether it was
through his movies, through his books.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And he's spoken so much about mental health and his
sobriety journey.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And he's born or whatever, and it's he his comedy
or his like appearance on talk shows, like you know
how like you can go just go search like I
would go on TikTok or YouTube before TikTok was a thing,
and just like watch Russell Brand, you know when you
just like trying to like quite your mind down and
have a little break, Like watch his appearance on talk
shows because he was so funny and so entertaining and
so over the top, and a lot of his you know,
people that he was a guest on a talk show
(08:40):
with have these wild reactions to him. So he was
that really beloved figure.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And that he's just also a dirty, dirty dog.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, yeah, Well that's definitely the allegation and then in
the last couple of years. I mean, he's married now
with kids, but that's not the reason he kind of
moved away from the spotlight. Like a few of these
allegations started coming out, but he also became like very conspiratory,
very much like I'm going to speak to you on
my separate channels. We can't trust the world, we can't
trust the media, we can't trust anything. And so a
lot of people have kind of put out the argument
(09:09):
that him might have known that a lot of these
allegations could come out, or he known that they were
in the works, and so he already started building his
own way to talk to, you know, his fans and
to build up this base. And he's got everyone being
like he's like a question, yeah, one hundred per He's
literally leading in that direction, and he's very much like,
don't listen to you know, mainstream media. Don't listen to
(09:30):
the allegations, and just so you know, they're going to
try and turn you against me. So now that that
these allegations have come out, along with denying them, he's
also saying like, see, guys, I told you this is
going to happen. So a lot of people are already
really primed to believe what he's seeing. So after it
came out that these charges had been laid, he put
out this video which was kind of like a direct
(09:50):
speaking to his fans.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Hello. Firstly, thank you for these incredible and overwhelming messages
of support. We're very fortunate in a way to live
in a time where there's so little trust in the
British government. We're very fortunate. I suppose that this is
happening at a time where we know that the law
has become a kind of weapon to be used against people,
(10:12):
institutions and sometimes entire nations that will not accept and
tolerate levels of corruption that are unprecedented. And I'm speaking particularly
to those of you that are watching in the UK.
How do you feel about your legal system right now?
How do you feel about some of the high profile
cases that are not being pursued and prosecuted. How do
you feel that the Southport murders were handled? How do
(10:34):
you feel about the government of Keir Starmer. Now that's
just sort of general context me. I've always told you
guys that when I was young and single, before I
had my wife and family who were just that a
shot over there, my beautiful children. I was a fool man.
I was a fool before I lived in the Likely Lord.
I was a drug addict, a sex addict, and an imbecile.
(10:55):
But what it never was was a rapist. I've never
engaged in non consensual activity. I pray that you can
see that by looking in my eyes. I want to
thank all of you for your continuing support. I want
to let you know that our show will be on
Rumble on Monday. Thanks for your support there. And of
course I'm not going to have the opportunity to defend
these charges in court, and I'm incredibly grateful for that.
(11:17):
In the meantime, you lot stay free and we will
be continuing to discuss this matter. Praise the Lord.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
He sounds like a manic lunatic. Yeah, not one thing
that he just said makes sense.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, I really don't like the idea that and he's
spent a lot of time doing this. He's correlated this
idea that you believe the allegations from all of these women,
then you're somehow like out of the loop. You've been
caught out. You don't understand the system, like he's really
made it, as if this is like a trap that
stupid people fall into instead of addressing like the very
(11:52):
real allegations and like the horrible things that these women
allege that he's done to them, which is a lot
of the sort of information that's come out is quite
upsetting and quite graphic. And I also hate that idea
when men are like, yeah, I was a bit you know, I.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Was back when i was silly back in the day.
But now I've got God and my wife and my kids.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I hate when people aren't so many kids, you wido, Yeah,
one hundred percent, people who pull in like, oh, maybe
they can't be trusted, eh what as we know, they're
only allegations at this stage. But even for them him
to be charged, as I said before, it's not easy
to charge someone's so hard, and that's why so many
women don't find it very hard. Yeah, but in these
situations to come forward, because they are so meticulously questioned,
(12:33):
they have to have so much information, there has to
be evidence. They have to go through this information again
and again and again. Like it is so brutal on
alleged victim who comes forward and for it to get
to the stage. And also, as Russell Brandt has been saying,
the police said they've been questioning him about this for
a very very long time, even for that huge news
report to come out in previous years, like in order
(12:53):
to like cite stuff like defamation laws and all that
sort of stuff, like you have to have the evidence
to prove that what you're saying is true. So that's
all we know at the stage about the case. Obviously
they're you know, still interviewing him. The charges have been laid,
so it's going to go through you know, the court system,
So I think this will be quite an ongoing case.
But I think as we what the court case unfold,
we're going to be seeing a lot more from Russell
(13:14):
Brand kind of breaking through and trying to set up
this idea that he's living outside the law and that
anyone who listens to these allegations is being tricked.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And it's something a little bit lighter. Yeah, please taking
my mind.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Off of that.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Well, I think everyone's mind was taken off everything on
Friday when Bonds broke the internet with their new campaign
made for down Under featuring Ossie Darling Robert Irwin. Now,
he was covered with lots of wildlife, which made me
very uncomfortable for someone that doesn't really like nature.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I love that was your takeaway, Like I'll take that
young naked man, but not those animals.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
He wasn't naked.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
He was wearing his Bonds underwear, and the Internet simply
did not cope. Bonds and Tea together collectively broke the Internet.
I have not seen such public enjoyment.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
For so long, and I just.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Think the entire Bonds marketing team deserve a really good
raise because well done.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Well done. Those headlines they really did.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
They got headlines on pretty much every single news channel
and then every social media platform just absolutely blew up
like everyone was having a say, millennial mums, millennial aunts,
millennials in general were just like, oh, I feel so uncomfortable,
Like I knew him when he was a baby, or
I saw him on TV when he was a baby.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
The commentary was just so funny. What's his park that
he owns?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Australian Yeah, Sunshine Coast.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Anyone that went there.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Over the weekend people were tiktoking it like, and they
had the music that the campaign was back to that
zooming in on him being like.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Because when he's there, he goes into the enclosure and
does the crocodile show and all of that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
He does it all.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
He's a very entertaining young man.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
But the commentary around it was just so funny. Like
Gatara Pavlovic, she's been on the pot I think a
couple of times. She did the funniest video where she
just like opens her phone and just spits out her
tea everywhere. She's basically like mums everywhere. This same someone
commented Robert, I'm trying to lesbian over here. Someone else said,
never in my wildest dream did I think I'd see
(15:16):
Bob Irwin as a snack lit Bob got sexy and
not even I know how to process this information. Other
people were like, I'm turning myself into the police right now.
And the thing is is that there's not many people
that ninety five percent of the population were in agreement over,
like straight men, gay women. Everyone was like, this gorgeous,
(15:37):
gorgeous humor.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Is a hot man. He's just beautiful and he was
eating it up.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
He loved it, he loved posting the first traps and
he's really leaning into it and he's having a lot
of fun with it, and I think it's great.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, I've never seen before as like Australia have such
a public reckoning with itself or the one moment, because
it was like if you were on line and watching
any and not just like media accounts, but like my
friends who are you know, from high school, who are
not even in that world at all, like seeing them
posting about it and things like that, and it was
like we all have the action of like, oh, what's this.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Oh my dear god, is that Robert Irwin? Oh my god,
it looks uncomfortable. He's sexy.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, I'm sure everyone was googling. His age is twenty one,
by the way, if anyone was concerned, completely legal years
of age. Everyone, and he is having fun. He's having
the best time. And so you saw everyone get really
excited and then be horrified and then be confused. And
that's what everyone was kind of sharing of, like I
love these photos, but I feel bad for it, And
so everyone was sharing that because everyone wanted reassurance from
(16:34):
everyone else that they weren't being the creepy one. Yeah,
and we're all being a little bit creepy, but it
was fun because we've been creepy together exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
We're being collectively creepy.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
And I also think sometimes it's really nice to have
those moments of lightness and amongst social media and vicious
news cycles and awful things happening.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, well, sometimes it's really fun just to open up
our phone and see everyone collectively and.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Collectively man who by all accounts is lovely, which makes it,
you know, kind of like less.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Crocodile astar Publovic holded and like, goodness, we're just having
a bit of fun.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I think one of the reasons why people were so
stressed about it, like people were stressed, like didn't have
to feel they're freaking out.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I know.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
It was some cranky people and some people were angry.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yes, And I think like there's a lot of celebrities
who are around that age who like we really publicly
thirst over, you know, people on you know whatever.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Movie Land or whatever. He's not, Oh, I think he's
quite a bit older. Oh okay, but I felt like
that whole teen pop star because we saw him on TV.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
One hundred percent. That's the reason why it's like usually
when a teen star burst, I know he's an adult,
he's in his twenties, but usually someone who's super young
who people start lasting over like we see them as
kind of an adult and you're introduced to them that way,
whereas with Robert slash Bob Irwin, a lot of people
are sort of going back and forth on his name.
He calls himself Robert, so I guess that's what we'll say.
But with Robert Irwin, like Robert, do you reckon Bobby?
(17:56):
I would say, Bobby, I've only ever met him briefly,
really once, and he's like, wait alone that it wasn't
the stuff child at the time, maybe like a year
ago to I don't even remember. You know, one of
those network things. He does a lot of TV now,
so he's at those things and he said, hello.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'm Robert.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So oh, it's all very serious. It's very serious, young man.
But I think a lot of people like I saw
so many photos of him as a baby, and people
like I saw his first birthday and I saw him five,
and they shared photos of him on his first day
of school, we saw his high school graduation, like he's
so grown up in the public school.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
You know what I think is way weirder. Yeah, that
we were so invested in a little kid. Okay, why
are we sharing photos of his first day school?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's weird. No, I know, the less weird to thirst
over a twenty one year old.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, potentially, But I just think like that's such a
beloved Australian family and people loved his father so much
and still do and people love Bindi Iowen and his
mom and it just like and they've been such a
public family. I think people kind of feel like a
very protective sense over all of them, which I think
is why some people were upset about the photos. But
like he made the choice. He's a TV presenter now,
he does a lot of publicity.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
He said a lot of recarpet.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Trying to do lots of different crazy things and things
that I'm not used to doing.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
And he knew what he was doing and he's having fun.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
With it, yeah exactly. And he was in a relationship
for a one He's very public about that and they
used to post all their photos together and they put
out a public statement when they broke up and all
that sort of thing. So I think he probably knows
that if he doesn't say it, they'll be, you know,
all these kind of tabloody articles, so he puts it
out there. But he is I think, really kind of
prepping himself to be like an international style. He's done
(19:27):
a lot of the international talk shows. He goes to
America a lot.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
He's got that and I think Ossy accent down path
like he is.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It's amazing. He's worth I reckon, I'm calling it. He's
going to be bigger than a ham Sto. Wow. Okay,
well you heard of has beloved Ossie icon.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yes, yes, totally agree and just look for everyone out
there who's stressed. If he gets a joy from those abs.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's okay, he's an adult, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Well, thank you so much for listening to The Spell today.
And it is a White Lotus finale day today, So
if you want a little bit more behind the scenes,
we actually had a few of the cast members on
Friday's episode of The Spill and we went into what
it was like behind the scenes of the show. We
went into kind of some of the bigger moments that
people might of missed and also a bit of alluding
(20:12):
to the finale build up. So listen to that if
you haven't already. And The Spill is produced by Ned
Green and Scott Stronnick. And we'll see you back here
on your podcast feed at three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Bye bye.
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