May 27, 2025 • 24 mins
On today’s show, Taylor Swift may have been a no-show at the AMAs but don't worry we’re still all over JLo’s steamy performance. We also unpack our fashion faves and flops from this year’s red carpet. You can check out the looks we rated on Instagram and take a peek at every single fashion moment from the awards here.
Plus, one of the biggest chick flicks of the noughties has announced a sequel, and we've got everything you need to know about ‘The Devil Wears Prada 2, including whether we think it's a good idea.
And Britney Spears has been dragged into the Sean Combs' trial after she was name dropped in a testimony, amid claims the pop star partied all night with Diddy right before THAT disastrous 2007 MTV Music Video Awards we all remember.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this
podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to This Spill,
your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick, and today
I'm joined.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
By Taylorstrano, host of The Quickie, which is our news podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Hello Laura, Hello, I'm glad you're here today because we
do have It's one of those days where news and
entertainment are having a crossover, at least in some respects.
The top of the show is very silly. I love
a good.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Crossover, and I feel like I can actually contribute something
in a small way to this.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
It's like two Mummia podcasts coming together for buch You
said that you yeah, I'm a fan. Yeah, I no, no, no,
we now we're speaking. That's the thing like news and
entertainment sometimes different, but everyone likes Marvel.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We have to tum up and fight against other forces.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm just I know we're joking, but actually I'm loving
this so much and I feel like there should be
artwork involved or.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
We will get onto that absolutely on today's show of
the Spill, though we are struggling to contain our excitement
because one of the most iconic films of the Naughties
is getting a sequel. We'll talk more about that in
a moment. And of course Britney Spears has been dragged
into the Diddy trial, but maybe not in the way
that you think, So there's further explanation on the way.
But first, Laura, we need to dissect some of the
(01:28):
looks from the AMA the American Music Award red carpet
that's already happened today, Thoughts Feeling's opinions.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, Look, we haven't had a red carpet in a
while because award season's over, so I think a lot
of people were looking forward to this. Maybe because there
was so much build up and speculation. A lot of
people thought that Taylor Swift was going to walk the
red carpet, and she's been in hiding for a while.
They thought she was going to announce the new Reputation
album at the time of recording. That hasn't happened, and
I'm pretty safe to say it's not going to happen.
(01:55):
There's a lot of devastated Swifties out in the world,
a lot of big names who we thought were going
to come out and like really make a stance on
the red carpet, like Jennifer Lopez opened the show. We
thought that she was going to walk the red carpet
in like a really you know, crazy look, because the
American Music Awards is where people can go a bit
crazy with their fashion. She didn't turn up, but there
were a few great looks on the red carpet or
(02:17):
the purple carpet. I should say, I don't want to
take away from the excitement of this little moment that
we're having. So Renee Wrap walked the purple carpet in
a floor length kind of tuxtedo silky gown, hot off
releasing her new single that we talked about earlier this
week that dissed her past show, The Sex Slides of
College Girls. Also, Heidi Klohm straight from the carn Film
Festival Red Carpet where she was not involved, but she
(02:38):
walked the red carpet American Music Awards, again not involved
on the red carp I love her commitment to a
red carpet look. It doesn't matter what the event is,
She's there.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Heidi Klemens is a carpet she will be in attendance
and she'll be wearing something fabulous. Although there's like a
lot of train ruffledge going on in the AMA's carpet.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Looking, I think, yeah, yeah, especially with her dress. I
don't know, maybe a few of them because they got
a banded khn that they've kind of recycled the volume
we've seen. Benson Boone, I thought looked like a Maybe
it's his facial hair more than his look, but he
looks like almost like a Shakespearean pirate. He's got like
a green suit on ruffles, he's obviously got the chest
out there, and he's like little mustache happening. I don't know.
(03:17):
I do find that man very attractive. Heidi Montag was
a bit of a blast from the past. Did you
see her look?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I did, and it was almost a bit like I
had to double take of who it was because the
hair was so platinum.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I guess, yeah, I just got a new Bob. I
like that you the.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Way you describe Benson Boom because my mind as I
flicked through the article on the ma Mere website with
all the looks from the AMA red carpet or purple carpet,
was it's very vampiric. To me.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yes, oh my god, yes, vampire, Shakespearean pirate. Maybe that's
all we're going for. Yeah, yeah, that's the.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Theme this year, and everyone relatively stuck to that theme,
I feel, except maybe Shahboozie, who was just like, there's a.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Theme, there's a dress. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I'm gonna wear my studded cowboy.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
What do you call those things that they wear? The pants?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh, like chaps, yes, frontless chaps, but then jeans, which
is you know?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Love that good?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I love that look.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I think that's maybe one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Okay, Sierra though I also love this look.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It has like.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
That dripping icy thing. But if you were to make
it with like the tabs from a soda can, Oh yes,
it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Again, that's almost like General Otega wearing rulers down the
metala of red carp But I feel like everyone's doing
like found kind of items for their fashion at the moment.
So no kind of standout looks, but a fun time
and the usual kind of faces they're going inside. Then
to the ceremony itself, Jennifer Lopez opened, which I freaking loved.
Like I know she's had a rough year with jan
(04:39):
Affleck divorce and having to cancel her tour due to
poor ticket sales. There's been a lot happening for her.
But she came out strong. Actually, in the days leading
up to the event, in the rehearsals, she was rehearsing
and dancing so hard, dancing a little hard out that
she had a nose injury. And she's got she's got
stitches all through her notes, I know, but she's out
there doing it. She's a consummate professional. So she opened
(05:01):
the show by dancing and singing to a medley of
twenty three hits. But they're all the biggest, not just
her songs, not just her songs. It's not like when
she sung at the inauguration and she put her own
song into like the national anthem. It's not that moment,
although that was iconic. Again, she got a lot of
shit for that. Instead, she pulled in like she did,
like a medley of all the biggest songs of the year.
So she did Dough Chi, Denila as a River, Sabrina Carpenter, Espresso,
(05:23):
all the kind of big hits like Beyonce Texas hold them.
But their best moment was in the six minute performance
when she's doing twenty three songs. She was also had
all of her hot, sexy backup dancers swirling around her,
and she passed a couple oh like a on stage
pash like it just a little quick kiss kind.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Of intimacy coordinator Okay that yeah, Yeah, you could tell
it was yeah, quite rehearsed, and it was I don't know,
I think it was meant to be super shocking, and
some people are just sudden acknawed the vibes.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Some people are saying that, oh, it was like she's
just trying to get attention, but it kind of worked
because it's the one thing from the AMA's are actually
talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
But also you're opening the AMAS. It's supposed to be attention.
Is that kind of the point.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Well, I think now because it's been like over twenty
years since the Video Music Awards where it's a different
one where Madonna like very infamously kissed Britney and then Christine,
although Christine's kiss got cut from the broadcast so the
camera could be on Justin instead, and it did feel
a little bit like she was trying to recreate that,
but I just think it was more in her vision
and they looked very happy to kiss her.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I also love twenty three songs. Is so many songs.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, she was like, my tour is being canceled.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
You will sit here and watch me sing yes instead.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So we loved that and we can now just continue
to wait for Taylor Swift to announce reputation. I should
say like I was obviously paying attention to all the
Easter eggs, all the fan theories, but I think Taylor herself,
she was not leading to people to believe that, and
I don't know if that was the moment she I
think she'll do it on a bigger stage. So apart
from that, we'll link an article from Ammamir that has
all the looks in one place, so you can go
through and tell us who you think looks like a
(06:51):
pirate or a vampire or a sailor or whatever they're
trying to be. So this week we've had some other
exciting sequel news, lots of sequel news coming through in
the industry lately, and that is the fact that The
Devil Wears prior to sequel, well, we definitely knew it
was going ahead because that was announced in July of
last year, but none of the main so Emily Blunt,
(07:11):
Ann Hathaway, Merrill Street, all Stanley Tucci have been confirmed.
So even though it's one of those projects that's been
green lit, I've still been on a little of the
fence about if it's actually coming. But this week Disney
released the run date for the theatrical release and it's
set for May one, twenty twenty six. So now it's
all starting to feel a little bit real. They have
(07:31):
the original producer back on board from the first movie,
they have the original director in talks to return, apparently
that's about to sign. And especially now that the new
Avengers movie kind of like Us was going to launch
that weekend, that's been bumped back and Devil Rays prior
has been brought in in its place. It's all feeling
very real, even though none of the actual cast has
(07:52):
said they're coming back.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, look, that's details and that's you know. I will
sit and wait for that to happen. Can I just say,
thank God Marvel and the Devil Weds prior to sequel,
I'm not coming out on the same I would have
passed away Barbie Oppenheimer all over again. I'd say bigger
than Yeah, the crossover surely more between Devilws Prata and
Avengers than Barbie Oppenheimer. Laura, how do you feel about
(08:15):
sequels in general, and then how do you feel specifically
about this one.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Look, I feel like I'm really going to backtrack on
because just a few weeks ago we were talking about
the fact that the sequel to Practical Magic had been greenlit,
and I know some people are upset about that, but
I was all in, and so I do feel maybe
it looks like I'm backflipping now to say that I
don't want The Devil Wears Prita sequel, But the facts
are that Practical Magic is part of like a bigger
world that feels like there is more story there to tell,
(08:44):
and that it's diving back into that world and into
like a family legacy, and there's so many books to work.
Were gearing up for a butt so but I would
just say The Devil Wears Prada is one of my
favorite movies. And I don't say that lightly because my
favorite thing to bring up at a dinner party is
that letterbox thing of what are your four favorite movies? Yes,
and I've worked really hard to cultivate my four favorite movies,
(09:06):
and the Devil Wears Prata is on there, Okay, So
I'm just I'm not taking this lightly when I'm not
like the other girls who say it's my favorite movie
and watch it once every five years, like I'm in
the weeds of it. And I have read all the
sequel books. That's the thing. There are sequels to it.
So the first sequel book follows Andy when she's working
at a bridal magazine and she's getting married and she
runs like across Miranda Priestley again. And then the book
(09:27):
after that, When Life Gives You Lulu Lemons, which is
such a good title, follows Emily Charles played by Emily
Blunt in the movie where she's pregnant, and then she's
also like splitting up from her partner, and Andy is
only part of that story on the phone, and then
she's kind of goes off with her friend to start
this new business, and like in the end, Miranda comes
to her baby shower. It's a whole thing. Ma'am.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
You are still skirting around the fact, are you four
or against the Devil?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Can I just say I'm against because I feel like
that movie the story ended in a perfect moment in time.
Even though the books continue the story but the books
continue the story in a way that doesn't suit the
continuation of a movie, and also kind of say the
lead actresses agree with me. Emily Blunt has previously said
many times that she feels like a sequel would dilute
(10:11):
the original story, so has Anne Hathaway, and Hathaway feels
like it was about making a physical magazine and it
captured a moment in time, and she doesn't feel like
we should revisit that.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I know.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Also other times they've said like, I love the cast,
and I come back if they asked me. But the
fact that both the lead actresses have said that they
don't think this movie should be made, I think goes
with the idea that it was a perfect moment in
time and we shouldn't remake it.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It's interesting, right, because all those books in that series,
like you said, they diverge and they go into very
other worlds and it's not necessarily about this fashion journalism
world anymore, which is what we love. The devil as
prout of form like it's wished for film, And I'm
sure at one time or another, Laura, you would have
watched this like I did and was like, oh, yes,
the life.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I was like, there's no way I'm throwing my phone
in a fountain at Paris Fashion Wig. I would ditch
my friends, I would ditch my boyfriend. I'd be like
I would stepped over Emily's dead body to get that job.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I mean, we're making a podcast about it now. I
think it's not as close as you or I agone.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, but you're right.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
The books go in these very different directions, and so
if the plot sticks to these books, which we don't
really think that that's going to be the case. Society
have some sort of indication of the plot though.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, so they've alluded to the fact. And again, Meryl
Streep hasn't signed on. But there's just no way Disney
would have this movie on the books and slated into
their upcoming release schedule if they didn't have Meryl Streep
signed for it. And so apparently it's going to follow
her in the decline of like physical magazines and print
journalism and how she navigates a world of online journalism.
(11:41):
And even though that's kind of interesting, I just again,
I don't know if that's what I want to see
from her character. I would much more love if these
characters did like what character actors who were very like
famous for working pairs used to back in the day,
like there'd be like multiple Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks movies.
You know how you just keep you keep bringing the
same actors back together, but then they play different characters.
(12:03):
Like American Horror Story. Yeah exactly. I think I'd much
rather watch that than watch these people try and bring
these directors back twenty years later and try and recapture
that magic when it wasn't there. But I do understand
why they're not following Lauren Weisberger, she's the author. I
understand when they're not following her books because Devil wes
Pratter is one of the few examples where the movie
(12:24):
is so much better than the book. And Lauren Weisberger,
the author, has said that she knows the book is bad,
but she had to write really quickly. She'd left Vogue.
She had this moment in time where she was shopping
around the idea and they just bought the idea off
the fact that it was going to be a bit
of a tell all of Anna wind Tour. And so
the book itself isn't great. Like She's got on to
write better books, and so that's why I think they've
(12:45):
taken the story. But I know, what do you think?
Are you gonna go watch this movie? I mean, of
course I'm gonna go see it. I'm sure you're gonna
go see it. Oh yeah, well I'm gonna be the
first one through the door. But this is what I'm
gonna like it.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
No, but I will participate in the cultural experience that
is watching a sequel to such a beloved film. So
the original Devil was prior of two thousand and six,
It's twenty years old next year when this next one's
coming out. It is a moment captured so perfectly in time,
everything from the wardrobe and the fashion to the way
that they use technology like we work in a digital publisher. Yeah,
(13:15):
it is so different from what we would do here
day to day. And I think that's just really nostalgic
and fun and there's something really kitch about it. Yeah,
doesn't need a sequel.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I don't know. I'm still gonna watch it. I am
also the person.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
That will forever fly the flag of Most TV series
should end after one season.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Oh okay, well we wildly differ on that. Yeah, I
think a good TV show needs at least four seasons
for it to really get into the meat. See, I
don't know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I don't know if it's controversial to say or not,
but things like only murders in the building and the
bed should have sped one.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, well they're not on my favorite TV show list,
so those ones one and done Sea, Yeah, one and done.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Twenty two episodes and for their safe and protective.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
That's the world I live in. That's the thing about
Devil Wears. Part of those is because I watched it recently.
I watched it all the time because it's one of
those movies that you just can there's no bad scenes,
there's no lagging moments. It just moves so perfectly. And
the thing I noticed about it is like, even though
it's twenty years on, like the fashion still looks amazing. Sure,
all the dialogue just works, the themes of what they're
going through, Like I feel like we're just a small
(14:14):
little tweaks. That movie feels like it could be made today.
If there was like some website girls running around in
the background, it would be almost a fashion magazine today.
Obviously the budget sign as high, but it feels like
it's like a perfect time capsule that also doesn't date,
which I feel like most movies don't feel like that.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, you will all have to be the judge with us.
I'm sure we'll all be lining up together on the
first of May twenty twenty six. That, yes, okay, we'll
report back then.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Okay, Laura.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
One of the biggest stories to come out of the
entertainment world, and it's something that is ongoing, is the
Diddy trial. So Shawan Didty Combs. As we know, he
is on a federal trial right now in New York
City in Manhattan for a number of crimes, racketeering, trafficking,
so on and so forth. The list goes on one
of the big things, and I know you guys have
been covering it. Here on the spill is all the
(15:01):
celebrities quote unquote involved in this case. So we already
know that a whole bunch of names have been thrown
around the courtroom in what context?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Though? Is the kicker?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well the latest name and folks who've been looking around
online would have seen this in a headline, probably is
Britney Spears. I didn't think there was much of a
connection between Ditty and Brittany until I started reading and researching.
Do you want to fill us in on how this
particular celebrity has drawn attention to themselves as part of
(15:30):
Ditty's trial.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yes, So it was Cassie Venturo who mentioned Britney's name
during the trial. So Cassie is Shawn Cromes's ex partner
and one of the key witnesses in this trial. We
spoke on this before, but she's been on the stand
giving a really hurrying testimony about her involvement with Sean
Colmes and all the allegations against him. She's also heavily
pregnant and really, like you can see, that's really taking
(15:53):
a toll on her to tell these stories. But one
story that recently came out is she was talking about
when she and Shawn Crimes first started their relationship and
how he surprised her at her twenty first birthday celebration.
And she was talking about this in the context of
the way that she alleges that he really love bombed
her at the start of the relationship and was kind
(16:13):
of sweeping her off her feet. And so she says
that Shawn Combs brought Britney Spears to her twenty first
birthday celebration as you know, kind of a way to
show like his powate influence and how his connection yeah, exactly,
and bringing the biggest pop star in the world to
her birthday. What goes on then is that she talks
about Britney Spears being there and a few other people,
(16:34):
and it's such a brief mention, but obviously all the
headlines have been picked up around it. She's trying to
mention all the different people who were there and like
Britney Spears is the one she remembers, which I think,
of course. But what's happened then It's had this huge
flow and effect where all the photos from that night
have now been unearthed and they show Britney Spears kind
of out on a huge bender with Sean Combs. But
(16:56):
the reason that this is really interesting is that it
took place the night before Britney Spears very infamously performed
at the two thousand and seven MTV Music Video Awards.
So you can see that in these research photo she's
at the Jet nightclub in Las Vegas out with Sean Combs.
She's out with Paris Hilton and fifty cent and it
(17:17):
looks like they're sort of partying and you know, dancing
out and about until the very early hours of the morning.
And why this is interesting is that the next day,
this is in the middle of Britney Spears having that
big breakdown, that very public breakdown in two thousand and
six and two thousand and five.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, one hundred percent, it's right in that peak period
of the Britney meltdown. There was paparazzi that followed her
absolutely everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It was literally.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Inescapable, both for her but also for us because it
is all people talked about. It was on the front
page of every magazine. And I think now we look
back on that time and hindsight's that beautiful thing of
or we really should have just left her alone. She
was clearly going through something and we all now have
to reconcile with that. But yes, this is all occurring
in the thick of that Britney meltdown moment.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yes, exactly. So all that footage had come out of
her shaving her head, of taking the umbrella and hitting
the paparazzi car, videos of her driving with her young
sons on her lap with seat belts and all that
sort of stuff, and a lot of that stuff she's
now talked about and explained in her memoir, like her
side of the story, but it was really just after
she'd gone from being like the very biggest pop star
(18:20):
in the world to having all these headlines around her,
and at this time, her team were really trying to
rehabilitate her image and basically keep making money off her
and saying like she's back, like the old Brittany. I
actually remember, like in two thousand and seven, the huge
build up to her being at this show Music Show
and her opening and give Me More. That her song
had come out and it was playing on every radio
(18:41):
station over and over and it was such a bop,
and it really did feel like Brittany was back, Like
I so remember this because I was such I mean,
I'm still a fangirl of her, but I was such
a fangirl of her, like in my teen years at
that time, and like seen as you're saying, like all
that tabloid coverage and then there was this promise that
she was going to come back, and then she came
out onto the VMA stage and from the moment she
stepped onto that stage, I mean, when you rewatch her now,
(19:03):
it's just a complete disaster.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It's really really hard to watch. So I've been looking
around at it today and there's both a video footage
of the actual awards ceremony but also the pre show
rehearsal as well, and they've sort of interspliced the two,
and it is like chalk and cheese almost of her
pre all this partying really like professional, it's really sharp
and it's dynamic, and then you cut to after all
(19:26):
of this alleged partying with Diddy and the next day
when the performance happens, and it's, like I said, it's
a hard watch. She's fairly hanging on. It's almost like
there's nothing going on behind her eyes. She almost I
feel like at some points falls asleep, almost falls over. Yeah,
she's stumbling quite a bit, and really a testament to
probably what happened in the hours before she got on stage.
Oh exactly, Like this is just information that we didn't
(19:49):
have before, which again makes watching like that clip of
her performing and like so harrowing because I remember watching
this live and just thinking that she looks like she
has no idea where she is. She's stumbling through her dancing,
her backup dances like really in sync. She just sometimes
just stops dancing. She wanders across the stage. At one stage,
she kind of falls to the side and is very
(20:09):
kind of like shocked and just kind of ends and
walks off, and I think also lip syncing out of time,
and yeah, just all of this stuff where it's like
it's so jarring to watch and you see the camera
panel of the audience and everyone's looking really shocked, and
some people are looking really concerned because they're probably just like,
this woman should not be on the stage. And it
was just hard because up until that moment, out of
(20:30):
all those pop girlies at the time, as the best
live performer as even though she lip syncd a lot,
only she can sing, but just because she was doing
this high intensity dance moves the whole time, she would
go on stage for two hours and just like perform
her heart out and she would like banter with the
audience and like she was just one of those people
everyone's like her stage presence is incredible. Well, she's like
(20:51):
a true entertainer, yeah, because she can sing, she can dance,
she can act, and she really built those big live
shows and that reputation of holding an audience for a
live show on the fact that her dancing was so incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, something that's really.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Interesting for context here is that this performance the two
thousand and seven MTV Video Music Video Awards was in
September two thousand and seven. It's happened allegedly after this
big night with Diddy, and it's right on the brink
of when her conservative ship starts as well, so that
kicks off in two thousand and eight, so you can
imagine this is Britney post meltdown. They're telling you this
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is Brittany's a return, but then she's kind of also
about to head into a conservative ship, so a lot
of her rights are about to be revoked, and it's
right in this moment in between those two big things happening,
where she maybe hits the pavement again and goes out
with Diddy, and then all we now have as evidence
of that is this performance that is really a hard
watch in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, absolutely, it does. I mean at the time, I
guess like maybe some people were aware of what was
going on. I don't think I really was. I just
thought she was kind of it was this comeback, But
then it does feel like a bunch of people who
make money of her had just pushed her on stage
to like perform like a monkey, because they wanted those
checks to start rolling in again. And it's interesting because
when her memoir came out, the woman and me, she
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right about the lead up to that performance. She hasn't
put anything in there that I can remember about Sean Combs,
so I feel like that's the kind of new information
that's come out. But she said leading up to the performance,
nothing was going right. She said, there was a problem
with my costume and with my hair extensions. She does
write in the book, I hadn't slept the night before,
so I was really really dizzy, And she also writes
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that she was really nervous about bumping into some Timberlake
because it had been a while since she'd seen him
and she was really acutely aware that he was going
to be in the audience and watching her.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It's a perfect storm. Yeah, it's totally a perfect storm
of what should have been a great comeback, but also
the continuing downfall at that point for bringing sweel.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, exactly. So, I mean I do feel a bit
bad for her that all this is being dredged up again,
But I think maybe, like some people will look at
it with a bit more empathy. I know her book
certainly did that, especially when she talks about her costume,
because her costume on stage is were also like I
just know those photos everywhere, like across every magazine because
she was wearing a two piece and there was a
lot of chat that it wasn't fit properly and that
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her stomach didn't look the way that people thought it
was going to look. And I remember so many magazines
running the picture and having circles around like where like
a little bit of fat was coming over the top
of her shorts. I have it with the magazine days.
Oh my god, I know. I mean, I guess TikTok
kind of does that now, but like, yeah, the magazines
are really brutal, and her talking about how she hadn't
slept the night before and then knowing what we know
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now about the Sean Combs allegations and like how intense
those nights out were and everything I should say, Like
I think some people also putting like her and Cassie's
names together a little bit. And Cassie hasn't alleged that
anything happened to Brittany or that Britain saw anything, just
that it was this big night out, but then knowing
that Big Night Out led to this disastrous performance, I
think has like really dredged it all up again.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, two names that I wouldn't put together as part
of the Diddy trial, But it is interesting that this
is one of the many things that I am sure
will come up given the fact that this trial is
so entrenched in Hollywood culture and entertainment culture.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
There's so much information coming about this trial. So we'll
link an article in our show notes from Mamma Mia
that has all of the celebrity names that have been
mentioned so far and the story is behind them. And
we still have a few more weeks to go of
this trial, so I'm sure even more celebrity names will
be added to this list.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
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your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick, and today
I'm joined.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
By Taylorstrano, host of The Quickie, which is our news podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Hello Laura, Hello, I'm glad you're here today because we
do have It's one of those days where news and
entertainment are having a crossover, at least in some respects.
The top of the show is very silly. I love
a good.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Crossover, and I feel like I can actually contribute something
in a small way to this.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
It's like two Mummia podcasts coming together for buch You
said that you yeah, I'm a fan. Yeah, I no, no, no,
we now we're speaking. That's the thing like news and
entertainment sometimes different, but everyone likes Marvel.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We have to tum up and fight against other forces.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I'm just I know we're joking, but actually I'm loving
this so much and I feel like there should be
artwork involved or.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
We will get onto that absolutely on today's show of
the Spill, though we are struggling to contain our excitement
because one of the most iconic films of the Naughties
is getting a sequel. We'll talk more about that in
a moment. And of course Britney Spears has been dragged
into the Diddy trial, but maybe not in the way
that you think, So there's further explanation on the way.
But first, Laura, we need to dissect some of the
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looks from the AMA the American Music Award red carpet
that's already happened today, Thoughts Feeling's opinions.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, Look, we haven't had a red carpet in a
while because award season's over, so I think a lot
of people were looking forward to this. Maybe because there
was so much build up and speculation. A lot of
people thought that Taylor Swift was going to walk the
red carpet, and she's been in hiding for a while.
They thought she was going to announce the new Reputation
album at the time of recording. That hasn't happened, and
I'm pretty safe to say it's not going to happen.
(01:55):
There's a lot of devastated Swifties out in the world,
a lot of big names who we thought were going
to come out and like really make a stance on
the red carpet, like Jennifer Lopez opened the show. We
thought that she was going to walk the red carpet
in like a really you know, crazy look, because the
American Music Awards is where people can go a bit
crazy with their fashion. She didn't turn up, but there
were a few great looks on the red carpet or
(02:17):
the purple carpet. I should say, I don't want to
take away from the excitement of this little moment that
we're having. So Renee Wrap walked the purple carpet in
a floor length kind of tuxtedo silky gown, hot off
releasing her new single that we talked about earlier this
week that dissed her past show, The Sex Slides of
College Girls. Also, Heidi Klohm straight from the carn Film
Festival Red Carpet where she was not involved, but she
(02:38):
walked the red carpet American Music Awards, again not involved
on the red carp I love her commitment to a
red carpet look. It doesn't matter what the event is,
She's there.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Heidi Klemens is a carpet she will be in attendance
and she'll be wearing something fabulous. Although there's like a
lot of train ruffledge going on in the AMA's carpet.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Looking, I think, yeah, yeah, especially with her dress. I
don't know, maybe a few of them because they got
a banded khn that they've kind of recycled the volume
we've seen. Benson Boone, I thought looked like a Maybe
it's his facial hair more than his look, but he
looks like almost like a Shakespearean pirate. He's got like
a green suit on ruffles, he's obviously got the chest
out there, and he's like little mustache happening. I don't know.
(03:17):
I do find that man very attractive. Heidi Montag was
a bit of a blast from the past. Did you
see her look?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I did, and it was almost a bit like I
had to double take of who it was because the
hair was so platinum.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I guess, yeah, I just got a new Bob. I
like that you the.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Way you describe Benson Boom because my mind as I
flicked through the article on the ma Mere website with
all the looks from the AMA red carpet or purple carpet,
was it's very vampiric. To me.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yes, oh my god, yes, vampire, Shakespearean pirate. Maybe that's
all we're going for. Yeah, yeah, that's the.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Theme this year, and everyone relatively stuck to that theme,
I feel, except maybe Shahboozie, who was just like, there's a.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Theme, there's a dress. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I'm gonna wear my studded cowboy.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
What do you call those things that they wear? The pants?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh, like chaps, yes, frontless chaps, but then jeans, which
is you know?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Love that good?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I love that look.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I think that's maybe one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Okay, Sierra though I also love this look.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It has like.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
That dripping icy thing. But if you were to make
it with like the tabs from a soda can, Oh yes,
it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Again, that's almost like General Otega wearing rulers down the
metala of red carp But I feel like everyone's doing
like found kind of items for their fashion at the moment.
So no kind of standout looks, but a fun time
and the usual kind of faces they're going inside. Then
to the ceremony itself, Jennifer Lopez opened, which I freaking loved.
Like I know she's had a rough year with jan
(04:39):
Affleck divorce and having to cancel her tour due to
poor ticket sales. There's been a lot happening for her.
But she came out strong. Actually, in the days leading
up to the event, in the rehearsals, she was rehearsing
and dancing so hard, dancing a little hard out that
she had a nose injury. And she's got she's got
stitches all through her notes, I know, but she's out
there doing it. She's a consummate professional. So she opened
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the show by dancing and singing to a medley of
twenty three hits. But they're all the biggest, not just
her songs, not just her songs. It's not like when
she sung at the inauguration and she put her own
song into like the national anthem. It's not that moment,
although that was iconic. Again, she got a lot of
shit for that. Instead, she pulled in like she did,
like a medley of all the biggest songs of the year.
So she did Dough Chi, Denila as a River, Sabrina Carpenter, Espresso,
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all the kind of big hits like Beyonce Texas hold them.
But their best moment was in the six minute performance
when she's doing twenty three songs. She was also had
all of her hot, sexy backup dancers swirling around her,
and she passed a couple oh like a on stage
pash like it just a little quick kiss kind.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Of intimacy coordinator Okay that yeah, Yeah, you could tell
it was yeah, quite rehearsed, and it was I don't know,
I think it was meant to be super shocking, and
some people are just sudden acknawed the vibes.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Some people are saying that, oh, it was like she's
just trying to get attention, but it kind of worked
because it's the one thing from the AMA's are actually
talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
But also you're opening the AMAS. It's supposed to be attention.
Is that kind of the point.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Well, I think now because it's been like over twenty
years since the Video Music Awards where it's a different
one where Madonna like very infamously kissed Britney and then Christine,
although Christine's kiss got cut from the broadcast so the
camera could be on Justin instead, and it did feel
a little bit like she was trying to recreate that,
but I just think it was more in her vision
and they looked very happy to kiss her.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I also love twenty three songs. Is so many songs.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, she was like, my tour is being canceled.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
You will sit here and watch me sing yes instead.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So we loved that and we can now just continue
to wait for Taylor Swift to announce reputation. I should
say like I was obviously paying attention to all the
Easter eggs, all the fan theories, but I think Taylor herself,
she was not leading to people to believe that, and
I don't know if that was the moment she I
think she'll do it on a bigger stage. So apart
from that, we'll link an article from Ammamir that has
all the looks in one place, so you can go
through and tell us who you think looks like a
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pirate or a vampire or a sailor or whatever they're
trying to be. So this week we've had some other
exciting sequel news, lots of sequel news coming through in
the industry lately, and that is the fact that The
Devil Wears prior to sequel, well, we definitely knew it
was going ahead because that was announced in July of
last year, but none of the main so Emily Blunt,
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Ann Hathaway, Merrill Street, all Stanley Tucci have been confirmed.
So even though it's one of those projects that's been
green lit, I've still been on a little of the
fence about if it's actually coming. But this week Disney
released the run date for the theatrical release and it's
set for May one, twenty twenty six. So now it's
all starting to feel a little bit real. They have
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the original producer back on board from the first movie,
they have the original director in talks to return, apparently
that's about to sign. And especially now that the new
Avengers movie kind of like Us was going to launch
that weekend, that's been bumped back and Devil Rays prior
has been brought in in its place. It's all feeling
very real, even though none of the actual cast has
(07:52):
said they're coming back.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, look, that's details and that's you know. I will
sit and wait for that to happen. Can I just say,
thank God Marvel and the Devil Weds prior to sequel,
I'm not coming out on the same I would have
passed away Barbie Oppenheimer all over again. I'd say bigger
than Yeah, the crossover surely more between Devilws Prata and
Avengers than Barbie Oppenheimer. Laura, how do you feel about
(08:15):
sequels in general, and then how do you feel specifically
about this one.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Look, I feel like I'm really going to backtrack on
because just a few weeks ago we were talking about
the fact that the sequel to Practical Magic had been greenlit,
and I know some people are upset about that, but
I was all in, and so I do feel maybe
it looks like I'm backflipping now to say that I
don't want The Devil Wears Prita sequel, But the facts
are that Practical Magic is part of like a bigger
world that feels like there is more story there to tell,
(08:44):
and that it's diving back into that world and into
like a family legacy, and there's so many books to work.
Were gearing up for a butt so but I would
just say The Devil Wears Prada is one of my
favorite movies. And I don't say that lightly because my
favorite thing to bring up at a dinner party is
that letterbox thing of what are your four favorite movies? Yes,
and I've worked really hard to cultivate my four favorite movies,
(09:06):
and the Devil Wears Prata is on there, Okay, So
I'm just I'm not taking this lightly when I'm not
like the other girls who say it's my favorite movie
and watch it once every five years, like I'm in
the weeds of it. And I have read all the
sequel books. That's the thing. There are sequels to it.
So the first sequel book follows Andy when she's working
at a bridal magazine and she's getting married and she
runs like across Miranda Priestley again. And then the book
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after that, When Life Gives You Lulu Lemons, which is
such a good title, follows Emily Charles played by Emily
Blunt in the movie where she's pregnant, and then she's
also like splitting up from her partner, and Andy is
only part of that story on the phone, and then
she's kind of goes off with her friend to start
this new business, and like in the end, Miranda comes
to her baby shower. It's a whole thing. Ma'am.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
You are still skirting around the fact, are you four
or against the Devil?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Can I just say I'm against because I feel like
that movie the story ended in a perfect moment in time.
Even though the books continue the story but the books
continue the story in a way that doesn't suit the
continuation of a movie, and also kind of say the
lead actresses agree with me. Emily Blunt has previously said
many times that she feels like a sequel would dilute
(10:11):
the original story, so has Anne Hathaway, and Hathaway feels
like it was about making a physical magazine and it
captured a moment in time, and she doesn't feel like
we should revisit that.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I know.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Also other times they've said like, I love the cast,
and I come back if they asked me. But the
fact that both the lead actresses have said that they
don't think this movie should be made, I think goes
with the idea that it was a perfect moment in
time and we shouldn't remake it.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It's interesting, right, because all those books in that series,
like you said, they diverge and they go into very
other worlds and it's not necessarily about this fashion journalism
world anymore, which is what we love. The devil as
prout of form like it's wished for film, And I'm
sure at one time or another, Laura, you would have
watched this like I did and was like, oh, yes,
the life.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I was like, there's no way I'm throwing my phone
in a fountain at Paris Fashion Wig. I would ditch
my friends, I would ditch my boyfriend. I'd be like
I would stepped over Emily's dead body to get that job.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I mean, we're making a podcast about it now. I
think it's not as close as you or I agone.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, but you're right.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
The books go in these very different directions, and so
if the plot sticks to these books, which we don't
really think that that's going to be the case. Society
have some sort of indication of the plot though.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, so they've alluded to the fact. And again, Meryl
Streep hasn't signed on. But there's just no way Disney
would have this movie on the books and slated into
their upcoming release schedule if they didn't have Meryl Streep
signed for it. And so apparently it's going to follow
her in the decline of like physical magazines and print
journalism and how she navigates a world of online journalism.
(11:41):
And even though that's kind of interesting, I just again,
I don't know if that's what I want to see
from her character. I would much more love if these
characters did like what character actors who were very like
famous for working pairs used to back in the day,
like there'd be like multiple Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks movies.
You know how you just keep you keep bringing the
same actors back together, but then they play different characters.
(12:03):
Like American Horror Story. Yeah exactly. I think I'd much
rather watch that than watch these people try and bring
these directors back twenty years later and try and recapture
that magic when it wasn't there. But I do understand
why they're not following Lauren Weisberger, she's the author. I
understand when they're not following her books because Devil wes
Pratter is one of the few examples where the movie
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is so much better than the book. And Lauren Weisberger,
the author, has said that she knows the book is bad,
but she had to write really quickly. She'd left Vogue.
She had this moment in time where she was shopping
around the idea and they just bought the idea off
the fact that it was going to be a bit
of a tell all of Anna wind Tour. And so
the book itself isn't great. Like She's got on to
write better books, and so that's why I think they've
(12:45):
taken the story. But I know, what do you think?
Are you gonna go watch this movie? I mean, of
course I'm gonna go see it. I'm sure you're gonna
go see it. Oh yeah, well I'm gonna be the
first one through the door. But this is what I'm
gonna like it.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
No, but I will participate in the cultural experience that
is watching a sequel to such a beloved film. So
the original Devil was prior of two thousand and six,
It's twenty years old next year when this next one's
coming out. It is a moment captured so perfectly in time,
everything from the wardrobe and the fashion to the way
that they use technology like we work in a digital publisher. Yeah,
(13:15):
it is so different from what we would do here
day to day. And I think that's just really nostalgic
and fun and there's something really kitch about it. Yeah,
doesn't need a sequel.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I don't know. I'm still gonna watch it. I am
also the person.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
That will forever fly the flag of Most TV series
should end after one season.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Oh okay, well we wildly differ on that. Yeah, I
think a good TV show needs at least four seasons
for it to really get into the meat. See, I
don't know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I don't know if it's controversial to say or not,
but things like only murders in the building and the
bed should have sped one.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, well they're not on my favorite TV show list,
so those ones one and done Sea, Yeah, one and done.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Twenty two episodes and for their safe and protective.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
That's the world I live in. That's the thing about
Devil Wears. Part of those is because I watched it recently.
I watched it all the time because it's one of
those movies that you just can there's no bad scenes,
there's no lagging moments. It just moves so perfectly. And
the thing I noticed about it is like, even though
it's twenty years on, like the fashion still looks amazing. Sure,
all the dialogue just works, the themes of what they're
going through, Like I feel like we're just a small
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little tweaks. That movie feels like it could be made today.
If there was like some website girls running around in
the background, it would be almost a fashion magazine today.
Obviously the budget sign as high, but it feels like
it's like a perfect time capsule that also doesn't date,
which I feel like most movies don't feel like that.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, you will all have to be the judge with us.
I'm sure we'll all be lining up together on the
first of May twenty twenty six. That, yes, okay, we'll
report back then.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Okay, Laura.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
One of the biggest stories to come out of the
entertainment world, and it's something that is ongoing, is the
Diddy trial. So Shawan Didty Combs. As we know, he
is on a federal trial right now in New York
City in Manhattan for a number of crimes, racketeering, trafficking,
so on and so forth. The list goes on one
of the big things, and I know you guys have
been covering it. Here on the spill is all the
(15:01):
celebrities quote unquote involved in this case. So we already
know that a whole bunch of names have been thrown
around the courtroom in what context?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Though? Is the kicker?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well the latest name and folks who've been looking around
online would have seen this in a headline, probably is
Britney Spears. I didn't think there was much of a
connection between Ditty and Brittany until I started reading and researching.
Do you want to fill us in on how this
particular celebrity has drawn attention to themselves as part of
(15:30):
Ditty's trial.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yes, So it was Cassie Venturo who mentioned Britney's name
during the trial. So Cassie is Shawn Cromes's ex partner
and one of the key witnesses in this trial. We
spoke on this before, but she's been on the stand
giving a really hurrying testimony about her involvement with Sean
Colmes and all the allegations against him. She's also heavily
pregnant and really, like you can see, that's really taking
(15:53):
a toll on her to tell these stories. But one
story that recently came out is she was talking about
when she and Shawn Crimes first started their relationship and
how he surprised her at her twenty first birthday celebration.
And she was talking about this in the context of
the way that she alleges that he really love bombed
her at the start of the relationship and was kind
(16:13):
of sweeping her off her feet. And so she says
that Shawn Combs brought Britney Spears to her twenty first
birthday celebration as you know, kind of a way to
show like his powate influence and how his connection yeah, exactly,
and bringing the biggest pop star in the world to
her birthday. What goes on then is that she talks
about Britney Spears being there and a few other people,
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and it's such a brief mention, but obviously all the
headlines have been picked up around it. She's trying to
mention all the different people who were there and like
Britney Spears is the one she remembers, which I think,
of course. But what's happened then It's had this huge
flow and effect where all the photos from that night
have now been unearthed and they show Britney Spears kind
of out on a huge bender with Sean Combs. But
(16:56):
the reason that this is really interesting is that it
took place the night before Britney Spears very infamously performed
at the two thousand and seven MTV Music Video Awards.
So you can see that in these research photo she's
at the Jet nightclub in Las Vegas out with Sean Combs.
She's out with Paris Hilton and fifty cent and it
(17:17):
looks like they're sort of partying and you know, dancing
out and about until the very early hours of the morning.
And why this is interesting is that the next day,
this is in the middle of Britney Spears having that
big breakdown, that very public breakdown in two thousand and
six and two thousand and five.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, one hundred percent, it's right in that peak period
of the Britney meltdown. There was paparazzi that followed her
absolutely everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It was literally.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Inescapable, both for her but also for us because it
is all people talked about. It was on the front
page of every magazine. And I think now we look
back on that time and hindsight's that beautiful thing of
or we really should have just left her alone. She
was clearly going through something and we all now have
to reconcile with that. But yes, this is all occurring
in the thick of that Britney meltdown moment.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yes, exactly. So all that footage had come out of
her shaving her head, of taking the umbrella and hitting
the paparazzi car, videos of her driving with her young
sons on her lap with seat belts and all that
sort of stuff, and a lot of that stuff she's
now talked about and explained in her memoir, like her
side of the story, but it was really just after
she'd gone from being like the very biggest pop star
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in the world to having all these headlines around her,
and at this time, her team were really trying to
rehabilitate her image and basically keep making money off her
and saying like she's back, like the old Brittany. I
actually remember, like in two thousand and seven, the huge
build up to her being at this show Music Show
and her opening and give Me More. That her song
had come out and it was playing on every radio
(18:41):
station over and over and it was such a bop,
and it really did feel like Brittany was back, Like
I so remember this because I was such I mean,
I'm still a fangirl of her, but I was such
a fangirl of her, like in my teen years at
that time, and like seen as you're saying, like all
that tabloid coverage and then there was this promise that
she was going to come back, and then she came
out onto the VMA stage and from the moment she
stepped onto that stage, I mean, when you rewatch her now,
(19:03):
it's just a complete disaster.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It's really really hard to watch. So I've been looking
around at it today and there's both a video footage
of the actual awards ceremony but also the pre show
rehearsal as well, and they've sort of interspliced the two,
and it is like chalk and cheese almost of her
pre all this partying really like professional, it's really sharp
and it's dynamic, and then you cut to after all
(19:26):
of this alleged partying with Diddy and the next day
when the performance happens, and it's, like I said, it's
a hard watch. She's fairly hanging on. It's almost like
there's nothing going on behind her eyes. She almost I
feel like at some points falls asleep, almost falls over. Yeah,
she's stumbling quite a bit, and really a testament to
probably what happened in the hours before she got on stage.
Oh exactly, Like this is just information that we didn't
(19:49):
have before, which again makes watching like that clip of
her performing and like so harrowing because I remember watching
this live and just thinking that she looks like she
has no idea where she is. She's stumbling through her dancing,
her backup dances like really in sync. She just sometimes
just stops dancing. She wanders across the stage. At one stage,
she kind of falls to the side and is very
(20:09):
kind of like shocked and just kind of ends and
walks off, and I think also lip syncing out of time,
and yeah, just all of this stuff where it's like
it's so jarring to watch and you see the camera
panel of the audience and everyone's looking really shocked, and
some people are looking really concerned because they're probably just like,
this woman should not be on the stage. And it
was just hard because up until that moment, out of
(20:30):
all those pop girlies at the time, as the best
live performer as even though she lip syncd a lot,
only she can sing, but just because she was doing
this high intensity dance moves the whole time, she would
go on stage for two hours and just like perform
her heart out and she would like banter with the
audience and like she was just one of those people
everyone's like her stage presence is incredible. Well, she's like
(20:51):
a true entertainer, yeah, because she can sing, she can dance,
she can act, and she really built those big live
shows and that reputation of holding an audience for a
live show on the fact that her dancing was so incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, something that's really.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Interesting for context here is that this performance the two
thousand and seven MTV Video Music Video Awards was in
September two thousand and seven. It's happened allegedly after this
big night with Diddy, and it's right on the brink
of when her conservative ship starts as well, so that
kicks off in two thousand and eight, so you can
imagine this is Britney post meltdown. They're telling you this
(21:28):
is Brittany's a return, but then she's kind of also
about to head into a conservative ship, so a lot
of her rights are about to be revoked, and it's
right in this moment in between those two big things happening,
where she maybe hits the pavement again and goes out
with Diddy, and then all we now have as evidence
of that is this performance that is really a hard
watch in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, absolutely, it does. I mean at the time, I
guess like maybe some people were aware of what was
going on. I don't think I really was. I just
thought she was kind of it was this comeback, But
then it does feel like a bunch of people who
make money of her had just pushed her on stage
to like perform like a monkey, because they wanted those
checks to start rolling in again. And it's interesting because
when her memoir came out, the woman and me, she
(22:10):
right about the lead up to that performance. She hasn't
put anything in there that I can remember about Sean Combs,
so I feel like that's the kind of new information
that's come out. But she said leading up to the performance,
nothing was going right. She said, there was a problem
with my costume and with my hair extensions. She does
write in the book, I hadn't slept the night before,
so I was really really dizzy, And she also writes
(22:30):
that she was really nervous about bumping into some Timberlake
because it had been a while since she'd seen him
and she was really acutely aware that he was going
to be in the audience and watching her.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It's a perfect storm. Yeah, it's totally a perfect storm
of what should have been a great comeback, but also
the continuing downfall at that point for bringing sweel.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, exactly. So, I mean I do feel a bit
bad for her that all this is being dredged up again,
But I think maybe, like some people will look at
it with a bit more empathy. I know her book
certainly did that, especially when she talks about her costume,
because her costume on stage is were also like I
just know those photos everywhere, like across every magazine because
she was wearing a two piece and there was a
lot of chat that it wasn't fit properly and that
(23:11):
her stomach didn't look the way that people thought it
was going to look. And I remember so many magazines
running the picture and having circles around like where like
a little bit of fat was coming over the top
of her shorts. I have it with the magazine days.
Oh my god, I know. I mean, I guess TikTok
kind of does that now, but like, yeah, the magazines
are really brutal, and her talking about how she hadn't
slept the night before and then knowing what we know
(23:32):
now about the Sean Combs allegations and like how intense
those nights out were and everything I should say, Like
I think some people also putting like her and Cassie's
names together a little bit. And Cassie hasn't alleged that
anything happened to Brittany or that Britain saw anything, just
that it was this big night out, but then knowing
that Big Night Out led to this disastrous performance, I
think has like really dredged it all up again.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, two names that I wouldn't put together as part
of the Diddy trial, But it is interesting that this
is one of the many things that I am sure
will come up given the fact that this trial is
so entrenched in Hollywood culture and entertainment culture.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
There's so much information coming about this trial. So we'll
link an article in our show notes from Mamma Mia
that has all of the celebrity names that have been
mentioned so far and the story is behind them. And
we still have a few more weeks to go of
this trial, so I'm sure even more celebrity names will
be added to this list.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Thanks so much for listening to The Spill today. Hey,
don't forget to follow the Spill on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Laura. You're on TikTok now, I know, because we're cool
and fun. You're cool and fun.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
The Spill is produced by maniche Usmarron with sound production
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Dot com dot Au and I won't be back in
your podcast feed at three pm tomorrow, but Laura, you
absolutely will be with the wonderful Kelly mccaren. Bye bye,
(24:49):
Lan
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