July 5, 2024 • 24 mins
Andy Cohen once asked Oprah if she had ever taken a swim in the “lady pond”. He regrets it.
We have some very personal celeb interview stories that make us very uncomfortable so we thought we’d make you feel the same.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Brodneck and I amm vernon Happy Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Friday Friday can get down unfair?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Do you know we once talked about Rebecca Black, who
sang that song Friday on this pod, and then she
sent us a dem on Instagram being like, love you guys,
Maybe we can hang out when I come to Astoria
because she's going to tour. But then the world shut
down with a pandemic, and.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Now she's so famous.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I know, I don't think she would dm us. Now, Rebecca,
you're listening to go straight into a message request, I reckon,
Oh missed opportunities anyway. Coming up on today's show, a
very famous interviewer has named his biggest regret when talking
to Omega celebrity, and it's kicked off this whole conversation
between us about celebrity interviews questions that we have regretted asking.
(01:10):
I'm going to regret even suggesting this as a topics.
I'm about to make myself look so stupid and just
awkward interviews in general, the ones that made the headlines.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
But first, but first, I have some breaking years. We
have a new Barbenheimer coming up on the twenty second
of November this year, both Gladiator two and Wicked will
be released in theaters. So I'm calling it wikiata.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I mean it's not official, but I feel like if
we started on our Beautiful Entertainment podcast, it will get
picked up and people will run with you.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
No, one's got a couple names for these two movies
coming on the same weekend now, Wikia.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Wikiator, So I haven't got a better option.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's not quite Barbenheimer, but you know, Wikia, the more you.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Say it, the more it grows.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
If you say it really fas it like no like emphasis,
it's kind of lows. The main reason it's being likened
to Barbie and Oppenheimer is not only because they're both
coming out on the same day, but because they're both
also set up and are gearing to be these massive
blockbuster hits and in two extreme different categories. Similar to
Barbie and Oppenheimer. There's been talks that these two movies
(02:15):
might be as big, but I actually don't think it
will because Barbie and Oppenheimer, I feel like we're just massive.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah. And I also feel like that was a very
specific moment in time that I don't know how you'd
replicate it. And what happened was there was a whole
back and forth between the movie studios and there was
a bit of revenge behind the scenes of moving Barbie
on over to Oppenheimer, and it just worked out because
of the whole hype around it. And what's interesting here
is that Wicked has been moved. Wicked Part one, because
(02:42):
it's been split into two parts, was initially moved so
it wouldn't clash with Molana too.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Like that's why they've moved it. I think a lot of.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
People think that's been moved the same weekend as Gladiated too,
so that they can try and get people to have
these big movie going weekends, especially because the box office
has been very soft across most releases. There's been a
lot of disappointments recently, so they're trying to get that
hype of getting everyone to go together on the first weekend.
But the real story is that they were worried about
putting could Part one up against Mawana Part two. These
(03:14):
movie names are so confusing because it's both a musical
female lad and I guess.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I think that the animated part two, Yeah, that's the
real life adaptation.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I'm in this stage. It's all like, it's just a blow,
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I guess they're saying that women can only take one
movie with the female leads singing at one time over
one weekend, so they have.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Everyone's like too many women, many women, there's too many.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
How many women are going to go see Gladiator Too?
Because I feel like women of the time for this movie.
Gladiator Too is the first movie I've had a wait
list of people wanting to be my plus one. Some
people ask me a year out of this movie, They're like,
I only want to come to that movie premiere with you.
I don't come about anything else, And so I'm only
getting one extra ticket. But I've had at least five
people a year in advance put in a request.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well, surely that to me, because I'm literally on this podcast.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I mean try not.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
But what I'm saying is I don't think that anyone's
thought about the fact that women who also make up
the dominant force of buying power, but often get left
out of these movie going discussions. Want to see Wicked
and Gladiat and Mowana.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, I'm seeing all three, and I'm like, literally can't wait.
I think also with Barbenheimer, it kind of felt like
the movies are back, like cinema is back, and even
though we did have cinema like before that, like there
was like this big gap between COVID and that where
it felt like we weren't really sure.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Not that many people were going.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I do remember seeing Don't Worry Darling just before that,
but that's the only thing I actually watched in cinema.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Everything else was streaming.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, exactly. And now at the moment where you've had
all these huge releases and they haven't made.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
At the box office what people thought they were gonna make.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
But I think I think Wicked and Gladiator on the
same weekend is I don't think it's gonna replicate the
intensity of Barbenheimer, but I think it will get people
going to see two movies in one weekend, which in
this day and age is a huge feat. So anyway,
make a day of it, Go see Wicked, see Gladiator
the same, and.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Then they all just merge into one big movie.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
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Speaker 3 (05:38):
Nana Talkshow host Andy Cohen has made headlines after an
interview he did with Entertainment Tonight. In this interview, he
was kind of talking about his highs and lows of
his overall career. He's been a talk show host for years.
One regret he has talked about, which he has also
brought up in the past before, is an interview he
did with Oprah Winfrey in twenty thirteen when she came
(06:01):
up on his show and he asked her if she's
ever quote taken a dip in the lady pond, meaning
has she ever had sex with a woman?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yes, I picked that up.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Well, apparently she didn't know what it meant. So recently
he found out through Gail, her best friend, that she
actually didn't know what it meant. But when he did
the interview, if you watched the video, which I don't
recommend you do because it's really cringe and really awkward,
and I got secondhand embarrassment, but I did it for.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
You, guys. I did for the show. When you watch
the interview, she's.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Kind of just like look straight at him and she's like, no,
I have not, thank you, And then you can immediately
see his face like, oh.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I've made a grave error.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Because the background of that, and this is what he
goes on to say in this interview, is that that
was a question that they were asking everyone who was
on the show around that time. So if you're a
big fan of Watch What Happens Live, or you're in
the Briver universe, or you're a fan of Andy Cohen,
then you would expect that question, but I'm just guessing
that Oprah wasn't up to date without being a question
that was asked. And she looks confused. And she's also
someone who's been the public eye so long and there
(06:59):
have been these weird allegations around her and Gaile there
were more than friends for years, So I wonder if
she thought that he was about to dredge up all
of these tabloid rumors about her and get her to
comment on that. And in his head, he's like, I'm
just asking her a fun question that I asked all
my guests. But it did look like he died inside.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
He looked like he died inside, and then I died inside.
I know everyone who's watched that interview now has died inside.
And the fact that he's talked about it multiple times,
I feel like it's one of those situations where it keeps.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Him up at like three am.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Will suddenly enter his mind and he's like, well, he
doesn't talk all about it all the time, can I say?
Because we've had Andy Cohen on this very podcast, and
I asked him that question because maybe I regret asking
him the question about what he regrets, because he just
looked at me as if like, that's the most boring
question ever. But you know, when you spend your whole
career intoing celebrities, that's what I get hit with all
the time as well. And he would just want to
know who's worse and who's bad and who's embarrassing. And
(07:46):
so I asked him about that, and he was like,
I don't really regret anything, no regrets, which is a
lie liar saving it for a big girl outlet. That's
all right, I respect. I do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
When we become entertainment tonight, we can ask him the
same question. What was really interesting when I was watching
that interview was like it just like burned in my memory.
Another interview that I remember watching that scarred me. Probably
not as much as the report, but it definitely scarred me.
I don't know if you remember this, but an entertainment
report in the US Sam Rubin mistook Samuel L.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Jackson with Laurence fish Pie.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'm so across this interview, but I cannot watch it
because it is so odd. I've seen it, but it's
one of those things where every time it pops up
somewhere or like throw my phone out the window before
I watched it again because it's so intense.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
It's so bad. But also that's really bad.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
That's not taking a swing with a different kind of
question hoping the person goes with you. That's not knowing
one actor from another actor when they're both hugely famous
and had these decades worth of work behind them because
they're both men of color.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Like, that's completely Also just.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Being an entertainment reporter for so long, And it wasn't
just that he got his name mixed up, like he
genuinely thought it was Laurence Fishburn.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, he asked Samuel L.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Jackson a question about the super Bowl commercial that he
was supposedly in, and Samuel Jackson's like, what super Bowl commercial?
And then you see Samuel Jackson, who I freaking love.
His face just lit up when he realized, and he
was like, I am.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Not Lauren Spismen. Not all of us look alike, and
he just kept going in. He's like, I'm the other guy.
I'm the other guy, as if like there's two of us.
What you're working for, Marvel? The super Bowl commercial?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Did you get a lot of reaction to that super
Bowl commercial?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
What super Bowl commercial? Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
My mistake.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You know you're You're as crazy as the people on Twitter, right,
I'm not lying's Prince Burg.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's my fault.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I know that that was my fault, my mistake. You
know what we do not all.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Look alike, black and famous.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
You are guilty. I am, I am guilty, my God.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And the thing is nothing haunts you like a bad interview.
This is very specific to this job of doing these interviews,
but when you're talking to someone, you're interviewing a celebrity,
and it is for like a podcast or TV or
radio or anything like that, it's such a public failure.
It's not something you can hide. But also you kind
escape it because when you have a really bad interview,
you see that person's face every especially because they're usually
(10:11):
doing promo at the time. So it's like I'll have
a terrible day at work where I've asked a stupid
question that I regret, or I asked it in a
wrong way, or they got angry, and I just want
to go home and forget about it. And as I
walk home, because we're in like a main street of Sydney,
it's got all those bus stops where you had the
interchangeable digital billboards, and it's always the face of the.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Bus, and they're always like on your like Netflix, like
maybe you want to watch this, And I let my
FBI agent living in my compute, I don't want to
watch this.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm literally gonna get run over one day walking home
from work because I have to close my eyes so
I don't see all the digital billboards blasting at me
the face of the person I just had an awkward
encounter with.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I think also a big thing about that is the
fan base that comes with the person. Like if you
look at all of these interviews, especially the ones that
are going viral right now, you talk about like Chicken
Shop Date and like hot Ones, and the interviewer is
as main of a character as the person they're interviewing.
And I think when you're of that HIVES status, you
have to be so careful because the minute you ask
(11:08):
not even an awkward question, but a question that their
celebrity or interviewing is uncomfortable with, immediately the comment will
be like, that's such a shame on the interviewer for
asking that question.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
How dare they?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Like it's never like on the celebrity if they don't
want to answer a question or they feel uncomfortable even
if you're not sure how they're going to take it.
And I think that's a huge risk that interviews constantly
have to make.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, it's a dangerous game out there, guys. It all
looks glamorous from the outside. We'll coming up next. We're
going to share some of our own interview regrets and look,
I'm just about to make a fool of myself. Oh,
a few interview regrets that we have had. I should
say I was looking back through my portfolio trying to
m because when you've been like doing this as long
as I have, there gets to a point where you
(11:48):
just like forget that you've interacted with these huge, famous
people because it happens so often, and so there's a
few are looking back and I'm like, that was a
boud interview. But that wasn't my fault. That was about interview.
I don't regret that guy was an idiot, and we
all know it now. But there's a few I'm like,
if I could go back in time, that's one of
my biggest wishes. If I could have one superpower, I
wish I could just like I have one reset a
day where I could like hit a button and go
(12:09):
back an hour and half of it is because I
just want to go back.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
And redo an interview. I don't want to change the world.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That's not my business. I don't want to like mess
with like the flow of life or have consequences of
time travel. I just want to go back and redo
an interview. Question one that.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Sticks in my head.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I mean there's a few, but some of them not
ready to talk about yet. They're too fresh.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Soon we need a first discuss it without therapist, and
then we'll give that.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But I'll come back to you, guys. Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I end up telling spillers all of my dark secrets
at some points. That's still coming. But Margo, Robbie and
Greta Gerwig for Barbie. I had a bit of regret
around how I started that interview because I put so
much time and thought into it. They were doing so
much press, so I was so aware they'd been asked
every single question.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And it's so hard to get cut through with those
big interviews because everyone's interviewing them at the same day,
same time that like articles will probably go out live.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
At the same time hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And also we didn't get to see the full movie beforehand.
I'm flying blind here. But I had so much to
ask them, and so I put so much thought and
time into what my first question would be, and I
decided to ask them about this story that was going
on that someone from Mattel had like jumped on a
flight to go across the world and arrive on set
because they were worried about something was happening on the
(13:18):
Barbie set. Obviously, that sounds more dramatic than it was,
and I knew no one was trying to shut down
the Barbie movie. And I didn't phrase it like that,
but my idea was to say, like, do you think
this is a bit of a precursor forult people are
going to say about the Barbie Movie that they think
everyone's expecting it to be this one thing and it's
actually something else. And they were lovely, I've got to
say that, so lovely and they knew how to give
it into you and they were there to work on
(13:39):
the day, and I love that from Greta and Margo,
but also they just burst into laughter and they're like,
way to make it sound way more dramatic than it was.
And Greta was like, you're making it sound like someone
call up them on the phone and was like we
got to shut down this picture and stuff. And then
it kind of just went off the rails and I
kept trying to bring it back and say like, no, no, no,
that's not what I meant. I meant like, do you
think this movie is being seen in a different way?
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And it just kind of went off the rails, and
obviously like it was just a Barbie mania after that,
and every time I saw their faces somewhere we went
and saw the movie or anything, I was just thinking
about how I just tanked and how I'm sure that
it think about me at all, But if they did,
they'd be like that woman in Australia asked, it's a
stupid question.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Don't think they think that.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I also want to point out that you're also on
like a really strict time. Yeah, So it's so easy
to get so frazzle in that situation where you're like,
can you please stop laughing because I have so many
more questions, and.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You're like, I just obviously if we had heaps of time,
I would really get into this.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
We've got to want to laugh too, but I actually
can't because I don't want to get.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Sometimes you just have to ask the big question and
there's no time to get into it. I remember the
first time I interviewed Daisy Egre Jones, and it was
right after normal people had come out, and so she was,
you know, the talk of the town, the talk of
the world. We're in lockdown, everyone's watching, everyone's obssessing over
her and Paul I got one of the few interviews
after that, and it was like my first zoom interview.
I had just forgured out how to use in that
(14:55):
day because the world had just shut down. She's calling
me from a zoom in her little bedroom in her
flat in London because she's not rich and famous yet,
and she's crouched down trying to like not wake up
her housemates. We have this huge conversation that our fringes
are overgrown because we're in lockdown, and then I was like,
this is so so lovely and so sweet, and she was.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Like, it's so nice to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I haven't talked to anyone for days.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Like it was so cute.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And then I was like, oh my god, you just
have to ask you about the sex scenes and the
pubic hair wig that you wore in the TV show
and there's no way to sugar coat it.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I just got to get in there, and it's not
exactly I regret.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Like this is one of those things when it kind
of goes off well, like talking about friends and like
speaking about Uncontrollable, because I was like, but it was
such a groundbreaking part of the TV show because she
looked kind of shocked that I asked her about it,
and then when I explained a bit more about how
important I thought it was and I wanted a job
about mechanics, and she went through all the mechanics of
putting on the fake Pugby hair and why it was important,
(15:46):
and then afterwards she felt like, I just feel like
I was asking her a school assignment, because.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
She was like, was that okay, I answer your question?
Did I get it right? And I was like, no, no, Daisy,
you did a great job. Oh my god, love you.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Sometimes I regret, in a more serious note, sometimes holding
especially female actresses accountable for some of the dramatic headlines
that are around their shows. And it's such a fine
line because if some huge story is playing out around
one of their co stars or something with the movie,
it's like you feel a responsibility as a journalist that
that is the question you have to ask them. But
(16:18):
at the same time, sometimes you're really putting them on
a spot and kind of ruining they into you and
ruining the work that they've done by making them be
accountable for something they have no responsibility for. And one
that I have a huge amount of regret and I
wish I could just send her a little note and
be like sorry about that. Is no one would probably
know this actress, but I'm sure a lot of people
would kind of know this show. It's The Royals if
(16:39):
you haven't seen it, it's such a good just like
a binge watch. It's like Liz Hurley's The Star. It's
just off the rails. I remember this reimagine the Royal
Family had a real point in time and Alexandra Park
played Princess Eleanor and that she was a star. She
came to Australia to promote one of the latest seasons
just as it was really taking off in Australia because
it had come to stand everyone was watching it, and
(16:59):
at the same time the show was all this drama
around it because Mark Schwan, who had been the creator
of One Tree Hill, all these allegations against him for
like abuse and sexual soul and everything had come out
and he was fired from The Royals, which was his show,
and then the cast of the Royals had also put
out a public letter saying that he had been like
terrible and saiding all these allegations, and Alexander's team was like,
(17:20):
don't ask her about it, and I was like, well,
I'm going to, because how can I not? And then
I started asking her in the interview and she was
like lovely about it. But I could also be like, oh, fuck,
this woman has just been through a really traumatic situation.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
She has to do press for this show.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
And this is nothing to do with her, Like she
wasn't actually involved in any of the allegations or anything
like that. And so I do have a lot of
regret that I was like I went into an interview
being like I'm going to ask her and I'm going
to get her to talk and I'm going to hold
her to account. Afterwards, I was like, that wasn't the
way to do it.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, I would regret that. Thanks for that support.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I was sure she's fine though it is, and also
like sometimes these are important questions, like the struggle I
think when you're a journalist, is wanting to like make
the person you're interviewing comfortable, but also knowing you're can
doing for a whole audience and these stories as well.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And yeah, exactly exactly. It's such an easy get sometimes
when there's backlash. And that's why so many actresses don't
comment on anything, because as soon as they comment on
any sort of backlash and then you can say to them, well,
you recently put out a statement and that's your in.
And once they've said that, it's public fodder. So I
understand why they don't. But yeah, look a couple of
regrets in there. Do you have any you are you
(18:29):
regret in life?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I have one regret, nothing that I did personally. I
want to say, I regret the whole interview happening.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Okay, well that's the bar. I've got plenty of those.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Basically, I was interviewing a very famous Australian comedian.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yes, well I will not name, but.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I love how I just named all of mine in
Burns and Bridges. You're gonna blame.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Her, Yeah, I'm blaming mine, not myself. Okay, So she
came in hungover, which you know what I've.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Will be in there, so you can't make that the
interviewer's problem.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
No, I'm like, and I'm a party girl. I respect
the party. I always respect the party, don't get me wrong.
So I was like kind of vibing with her. I
was like, oh my god, vibe say I'm also hungover.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I was like trying to relate. I was interviewing her
about some recent work she did, and I was asking
her questions and she couldn't remember.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
What she actually did.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
It was actually insane, and the thing I was doing
it was like a long time ago, like a few
years ago, but at mum and me at the time,
I was big into the dating space, like I was
a dating and relationships writer. That was my main forte.
And part of the whole interviews I was doing was
like they had to give me a dating story, like
a terrible dating story. And we had given her publicist
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and herself like, be prepared, I'm going to ask you
the story, and they were like, yep, got it, you'll
have a story ready. She didn't have one ready. And
it was one of those situations where just for good content,
I had to give my own story for her to
react to. Like a story that I was saving for
like my like my own like thing, and I had
to use it for this interview just to like make
it like some sort of content.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
So at the end of the day, I guess in
some cases we are all Andy Cohen and asking someone
if they've taken assuming the lady Pond, and I.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Guess there's just there's no way out of here. She's
got to push through it.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
The weekend watch It's weekend watch time, and today I
am recommending a Stan Original documentary. It's called Trailblazers, Brace Yourselves.
It's a sports doco, which I know I'm a big
fan of and I always go on about my sports documentaries,
but this one is really good. It is about the
history of the Australian women's football team, the Matilda's. They're
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having a big moment right now. I know, like everyone
went to the games when they were here for the
women's fee for World Cup, and I think now is
the best time to watch this documentary as we're leading
up to the Olympics, because I'm representing us in that
as well. The history of women's football is so insane,
Like there was a point where they were starting to
get really really big, especially when the men had to
go overseas for war, Like they were the entertainment. They
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were the ones who were like doing sport and having
these big games and having these like sold out stadiums.
And then when the men came back, there was kind
of like this big clash over women's and men's footb all,
especially in England. And in England they actually made it
illegal for women to play on men's pitches and I.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Was like, freaking hell, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And because England was kind of like the top country
for football, that legal rule kind of started filtering out
to other countries where it became really uncouth for women
to play football. And the women who were ex Matilda's
players are just amazing. So many of them had to
pay to play, so many of them lost jobs just
because they were traveling for games. They had to like
stitch their own uniforms, they got hand me down from
the men. It was just like the amount they went
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through just to play the game was absolutely outstanding.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
These are the women who changed football at the moment
remembered forever witnessed the incredible wise there was no infrastructure,
was really daunting. Just to fight to earn respect of
Australia's national teams.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It gives me goosebum was thinking about.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Discover the legacy.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Striking was the last option and Unbreakaby.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Spirits had come so far that defines them. This is
our story.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
So it's such a like wholesome, really good, feel good
watch understand.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Well, I'm also recommending a stand show today because I
have been waiting for this one to drop some and
so much. The screen is a little while ago and
it's finally here. It's called A Good Girl's Guide to Murder.
I love that title, isn't it. I want that to
be like on my Grasston. Well, I'm sure we can
organize that. That's a separate conversation. So this new series
is based on the best selling novel of the same
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name by Holly Jackson. So when that book came out,
and it's the first in the series.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Reading that book rode on her bookshelf.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
When it came out, it was like shortlisted for all
these different awards and critics loved it and readers loved it,
and so it's finally been turned into a series. There's
six episodes and the star of the show is Emma Myers,
who a lot of people would know as Enid from
Wednesday because it's like she's the real breakout star for that,
and she's filming Wednesday, the second season of that. At
the moment, I think, really, yes, she's amazing in Wednesday,
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and she's amazing in A.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Good Girl's Guide to Murder.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So she plays the leader Pip, who's a high school girl,
and basically she becomes very kind of fascinated with this
murder that took place five years for the events of
the show for this girl called Andy Bell, and the
police and everyone in the town, school and stuff all
think they know exactly what happened to Andy, that her
boyfriend murdered her case clothes the police or like he
definitely did it. Everyone knows. But then Pip, who's kind
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of like very smart, very determined, very kind of across
what's happening, gets some information and she's like, I don't
think he did kill her five years ago. I think
something here has happened. And if he's not the murderer
of this big case in town of this young woman,
then who.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Is Nancy Drew.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It is a bit like I think maybe like Nancy
Drew pretty little liars, but a bit more elevated than that.
But like if you love that sort of like Veronica
Mars greater show of all. You know, if you like
that kind of like young spunky woman who's smarter than
everyone around her soulves a murder, then you're like this.
So then she starts delving into this murder of what
really happened to kind of uncover the truth.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
My name's Pip Fitzmoby.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
For the last few months, I've been investigating the Andy
Bell case.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Oh and just so you know, they got the wrong person.
Bribe like you that's are scared to do. Please believe
that your brother was innocent.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So if you didn't, who did?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
I guess that's what we need to find out. There
are a million of scrappencies about that night. Any one
of them could have killed Andy. What are you girls
talking about?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Ten?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So it's six episodes. It's really engaging. If you love
the book, then you love seeing it on the screen.
And if you haven't read the book, then don't google
anything about it. Just sit down and watch it because
you'll be really interested of how the story unfolds. So
that's a Good Girl's Guide to Murder and it's out
on stand now. Well, thank you so much for listening
to the Spill today. And if you love the Spill
or if you hate it, we're not against a hate listen.
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We still get the downloads. Please head on over to
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your podcast feed at three pm on Monday.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Bye, see us, L
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Brodneck and I amm vernon Happy Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Friday Friday can get down unfair?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Do you know we once talked about Rebecca Black, who
sang that song Friday on this pod, and then she
sent us a dem on Instagram being like, love you guys,
Maybe we can hang out when I come to Astoria
because she's going to tour. But then the world shut
down with a pandemic, and.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Now she's so famous.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I know, I don't think she would dm us. Now, Rebecca,
you're listening to go straight into a message request, I reckon,
Oh missed opportunities anyway. Coming up on today's show, a
very famous interviewer has named his biggest regret when talking
to Omega celebrity, and it's kicked off this whole conversation
between us about celebrity interviews questions that we have regretted asking.
(01:10):
I'm going to regret even suggesting this as a topics.
I'm about to make myself look so stupid and just
awkward interviews in general, the ones that made the headlines.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
But first, but first, I have some breaking years. We
have a new Barbenheimer coming up on the twenty second
of November this year, both Gladiator two and Wicked will
be released in theaters. So I'm calling it wikiata.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I mean it's not official, but I feel like if
we started on our Beautiful Entertainment podcast, it will get
picked up and people will run with you.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
No, one's got a couple names for these two movies
coming on the same weekend now, Wikia.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Wikiator, So I haven't got a better option.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's not quite Barbenheimer, but you know, Wikia, the more you.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Say it, the more it grows.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
If you say it really fas it like no like emphasis,
it's kind of lows. The main reason it's being likened
to Barbie and Oppenheimer is not only because they're both
coming out on the same day, but because they're both
also set up and are gearing to be these massive
blockbuster hits and in two extreme different categories. Similar to
Barbie and Oppenheimer. There's been talks that these two movies
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might be as big, but I actually don't think it
will because Barbie and Oppenheimer, I feel like we're just massive.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah. And I also feel like that was a very
specific moment in time that I don't know how you'd
replicate it. And what happened was there was a whole
back and forth between the movie studios and there was
a bit of revenge behind the scenes of moving Barbie
on over to Oppenheimer, and it just worked out because
of the whole hype around it. And what's interesting here
is that Wicked has been moved. Wicked Part one, because
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it's been split into two parts, was initially moved so
it wouldn't clash with Molana too.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Like that's why they've moved it. I think a lot of.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
People think that's been moved the same weekend as Gladiated too,
so that they can try and get people to have
these big movie going weekends, especially because the box office
has been very soft across most releases. There's been a
lot of disappointments recently, so they're trying to get that
hype of getting everyone to go together on the first weekend.
But the real story is that they were worried about
putting could Part one up against Mawana Part two. These
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movie names are so confusing because it's both a musical
female lad and I guess.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I think that the animated part two, Yeah, that's the
real life adaptation.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I'm in this stage. It's all like, it's just a blow,
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I guess they're saying that women can only take one
movie with the female leads singing at one time over
one weekend, so they have.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Everyone's like too many women, many women, there's too many.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
How many women are going to go see Gladiator Too?
Because I feel like women of the time for this movie.
Gladiator Too is the first movie I've had a wait
list of people wanting to be my plus one. Some
people ask me a year out of this movie, They're like,
I only want to come to that movie premiere with you.
I don't come about anything else, And so I'm only
getting one extra ticket. But I've had at least five
people a year in advance put in a request.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well, surely that to me, because I'm literally on this podcast.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I mean try not.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
But what I'm saying is I don't think that anyone's
thought about the fact that women who also make up
the dominant force of buying power, but often get left
out of these movie going discussions. Want to see Wicked
and Gladiat and Mowana.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, I'm seeing all three, and I'm like, literally can't wait.
I think also with Barbenheimer, it kind of felt like
the movies are back, like cinema is back, and even
though we did have cinema like before that, like there
was like this big gap between COVID and that where
it felt like we weren't really sure.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Not that many people were going.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I do remember seeing Don't Worry Darling just before that,
but that's the only thing I actually watched in cinema.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Everything else was streaming.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, exactly. And now at the moment where you've had
all these huge releases and they haven't made.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
At the box office what people thought they were gonna make.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
But I think I think Wicked and Gladiator on the
same weekend is I don't think it's gonna replicate the
intensity of Barbenheimer, but I think it will get people
going to see two movies in one weekend, which in
this day and age is a huge feat. So anyway,
make a day of it, Go see Wicked, see Gladiator
the same, and.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Then they all just merge into one big movie.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
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Speaker 3 (05:38):
Nana Talkshow host Andy Cohen has made headlines after an
interview he did with Entertainment Tonight. In this interview, he
was kind of talking about his highs and lows of
his overall career. He's been a talk show host for years.
One regret he has talked about, which he has also
brought up in the past before, is an interview he
did with Oprah Winfrey in twenty thirteen when she came
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up on his show and he asked her if she's
ever quote taken a dip in the lady pond, meaning
has she ever had sex with a woman?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yes, I picked that up.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Well, apparently she didn't know what it meant. So recently
he found out through Gail, her best friend, that she
actually didn't know what it meant. But when he did
the interview, if you watched the video, which I don't
recommend you do because it's really cringe and really awkward,
and I got secondhand embarrassment, but I did it for.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
You, guys. I did for the show. When you watch
the interview, she's.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Kind of just like look straight at him and she's like, no,
I have not, thank you, And then you can immediately
see his face like, oh.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I've made a grave error.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Because the background of that, and this is what he
goes on to say in this interview, is that that
was a question that they were asking everyone who was
on the show around that time. So if you're a
big fan of Watch What Happens Live, or you're in
the Briver universe, or you're a fan of Andy Cohen,
then you would expect that question, but I'm just guessing
that Oprah wasn't up to date without being a question
that was asked. And she looks confused. And she's also
someone who's been the public eye so long and there
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have been these weird allegations around her and Gaile there
were more than friends for years, So I wonder if
she thought that he was about to dredge up all
of these tabloid rumors about her and get her to
comment on that. And in his head, he's like, I'm
just asking her a fun question that I asked all
my guests. But it did look like he died inside.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
He looked like he died inside, and then I died inside.
I know everyone who's watched that interview now has died inside.
And the fact that he's talked about it multiple times,
I feel like it's one of those situations where it keeps.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Him up at like three am.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Will suddenly enter his mind and he's like, well, he
doesn't talk all about it all the time, can I say?
Because we've had Andy Cohen on this very podcast, and
I asked him that question because maybe I regret asking
him the question about what he regrets, because he just
looked at me as if like, that's the most boring
question ever. But you know, when you spend your whole
career intoing celebrities, that's what I get hit with all
the time as well. And he would just want to
know who's worse and who's bad and who's embarrassing. And
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so I asked him about that, and he was like,
I don't really regret anything, no regrets, which is a
lie liar saving it for a big girl outlet. That's
all right, I respect. I do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
When we become entertainment tonight, we can ask him the
same question. What was really interesting when I was watching
that interview was like it just like burned in my memory.
Another interview that I remember watching that scarred me. Probably
not as much as the report, but it definitely scarred me.
I don't know if you remember this, but an entertainment
report in the US Sam Rubin mistook Samuel L.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Jackson with Laurence fish Pie.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'm so across this interview, but I cannot watch it
because it is so odd. I've seen it, but it's
one of those things where every time it pops up
somewhere or like throw my phone out the window before
I watched it again because it's so intense.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
It's so bad. But also that's really bad.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
That's not taking a swing with a different kind of
question hoping the person goes with you. That's not knowing
one actor from another actor when they're both hugely famous
and had these decades worth of work behind them because
they're both men of color.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Like, that's completely Also just.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Being an entertainment reporter for so long, And it wasn't
just that he got his name mixed up, like he
genuinely thought it was Laurence Fishburn.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, he asked Samuel L.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Jackson a question about the super Bowl commercial that he
was supposedly in, and Samuel Jackson's like, what super Bowl commercial?
And then you see Samuel Jackson, who I freaking love.
His face just lit up when he realized, and he
was like, I am.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Not Lauren Spismen. Not all of us look alike, and
he just kept going in. He's like, I'm the other guy.
I'm the other guy, as if like there's two of us.
What you're working for, Marvel? The super Bowl commercial?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Did you get a lot of reaction to that super
Bowl commercial?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
What super Bowl commercial? Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
My mistake.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You know you're You're as crazy as the people on Twitter, right,
I'm not lying's Prince Burg.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's my fault.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I know that that was my fault, my mistake. You
know what we do not all.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Look alike, black and famous.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
You are guilty. I am, I am guilty, my God.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And the thing is nothing haunts you like a bad interview.
This is very specific to this job of doing these interviews,
but when you're talking to someone, you're interviewing a celebrity,
and it is for like a podcast or TV or
radio or anything like that, it's such a public failure.
It's not something you can hide. But also you kind
escape it because when you have a really bad interview,
you see that person's face every especially because they're usually
(10:11):
doing promo at the time. So it's like I'll have
a terrible day at work where I've asked a stupid
question that I regret, or I asked it in a
wrong way, or they got angry, and I just want
to go home and forget about it. And as I
walk home, because we're in like a main street of Sydney,
it's got all those bus stops where you had the
interchangeable digital billboards, and it's always the face of the.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Bus, and they're always like on your like Netflix, like
maybe you want to watch this, And I let my
FBI agent living in my compute, I don't want to
watch this.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm literally gonna get run over one day walking home
from work because I have to close my eyes so
I don't see all the digital billboards blasting at me
the face of the person I just had an awkward
encounter with.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I think also a big thing about that is the
fan base that comes with the person. Like if you
look at all of these interviews, especially the ones that
are going viral right now, you talk about like Chicken
Shop Date and like hot Ones, and the interviewer is
as main of a character as the person they're interviewing.
And I think when you're of that HIVES status, you
have to be so careful because the minute you ask
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not even an awkward question, but a question that their
celebrity or interviewing is uncomfortable with, immediately the comment will
be like, that's such a shame on the interviewer for
asking that question.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
How dare they?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Like it's never like on the celebrity if they don't
want to answer a question or they feel uncomfortable even
if you're not sure how they're going to take it.
And I think that's a huge risk that interviews constantly
have to make.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, it's a dangerous game out there, guys. It all
looks glamorous from the outside. We'll coming up next. We're
going to share some of our own interview regrets and look,
I'm just about to make a fool of myself. Oh,
a few interview regrets that we have had. I should
say I was looking back through my portfolio trying to
m because when you've been like doing this as long
as I have, there gets to a point where you
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just like forget that you've interacted with these huge, famous
people because it happens so often, and so there's a
few are looking back and I'm like, that was a
boud interview. But that wasn't my fault. That was about interview.
I don't regret that guy was an idiot, and we
all know it now. But there's a few I'm like,
if I could go back in time, that's one of
my biggest wishes. If I could have one superpower, I
wish I could just like I have one reset a
day where I could like hit a button and go
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back an hour and half of it is because I
just want to go back.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
And redo an interview. I don't want to change the world.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That's not my business. I don't want to like mess
with like the flow of life or have consequences of
time travel. I just want to go back and redo
an interview. Question one that.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Sticks in my head.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I mean there's a few, but some of them not
ready to talk about yet. They're too fresh.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Soon we need a first discuss it without therapist, and
then we'll give that.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But I'll come back to you, guys. Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I end up telling spillers all of my dark secrets
at some points. That's still coming. But Margo, Robbie and
Greta Gerwig for Barbie. I had a bit of regret
around how I started that interview because I put so
much time and thought into it. They were doing so
much press, so I was so aware they'd been asked
every single question.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And it's so hard to get cut through with those
big interviews because everyone's interviewing them at the same day,
same time that like articles will probably go out live.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
At the same time hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And also we didn't get to see the full movie beforehand.
I'm flying blind here. But I had so much to
ask them, and so I put so much thought and
time into what my first question would be, and I
decided to ask them about this story that was going
on that someone from Mattel had like jumped on a
flight to go across the world and arrive on set
because they were worried about something was happening on the
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Barbie set. Obviously, that sounds more dramatic than it was,
and I knew no one was trying to shut down
the Barbie movie. And I didn't phrase it like that,
but my idea was to say, like, do you think
this is a bit of a precursor forult people are
going to say about the Barbie Movie that they think
everyone's expecting it to be this one thing and it's
actually something else. And they were lovely, I've got to
say that, so lovely and they knew how to give
it into you and they were there to work on
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the day, and I love that from Greta and Margo,
but also they just burst into laughter and they're like,
way to make it sound way more dramatic than it was.
And Greta was like, you're making it sound like someone
call up them on the phone and was like we
got to shut down this picture and stuff. And then
it kind of just went off the rails and I
kept trying to bring it back and say like, no, no, no,
that's not what I meant. I meant like, do you
think this movie is being seen in a different way?
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And it just kind of went off the rails, and
obviously like it was just a Barbie mania after that,
and every time I saw their faces somewhere we went
and saw the movie or anything, I was just thinking
about how I just tanked and how I'm sure that
it think about me at all, But if they did,
they'd be like that woman in Australia asked, it's a
stupid question.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Don't think they think that.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I also want to point out that you're also on
like a really strict time. Yeah, So it's so easy
to get so frazzle in that situation where you're like,
can you please stop laughing because I have so many
more questions, and.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You're like, I just obviously if we had heaps of time,
I would really get into this.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
We've got to want to laugh too, but I actually
can't because I don't want to get.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Sometimes you just have to ask the big question and
there's no time to get into it. I remember the
first time I interviewed Daisy Egre Jones, and it was
right after normal people had come out, and so she was,
you know, the talk of the town, the talk of
the world. We're in lockdown, everyone's watching, everyone's obssessing over
her and Paul I got one of the few interviews
after that, and it was like my first zoom interview.
I had just forgured out how to use in that
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day because the world had just shut down. She's calling
me from a zoom in her little bedroom in her
flat in London because she's not rich and famous yet,
and she's crouched down trying to like not wake up
her housemates. We have this huge conversation that our fringes
are overgrown because we're in lockdown, and then I was like,
this is so so lovely and so sweet, and she was.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Like, it's so nice to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I haven't talked to anyone for days.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Like it was so cute.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And then I was like, oh my god, you just
have to ask you about the sex scenes and the
pubic hair wig that you wore in the TV show
and there's no way to sugar coat it.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I just got to get in there, and it's not
exactly I regret.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Like this is one of those things when it kind
of goes off well, like talking about friends and like
speaking about Uncontrollable, because I was like, but it was
such a groundbreaking part of the TV show because she
looked kind of shocked that I asked her about it,
and then when I explained a bit more about how
important I thought it was and I wanted a job
about mechanics, and she went through all the mechanics of
putting on the fake Pugby hair and why it was important,
(15:46):
and then afterwards she felt like, I just feel like
I was asking her a school assignment, because.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
She was like, was that okay, I answer your question?
Did I get it right? And I was like, no, no, Daisy,
you did a great job. Oh my god, love you.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Sometimes I regret, in a more serious note, sometimes holding
especially female actresses accountable for some of the dramatic headlines
that are around their shows. And it's such a fine
line because if some huge story is playing out around
one of their co stars or something with the movie,
it's like you feel a responsibility as a journalist that
that is the question you have to ask them. But
(16:18):
at the same time, sometimes you're really putting them on
a spot and kind of ruining they into you and
ruining the work that they've done by making them be
accountable for something they have no responsibility for. And one
that I have a huge amount of regret and I
wish I could just send her a little note and
be like sorry about that. Is no one would probably
know this actress, but I'm sure a lot of people
would kind of know this show. It's The Royals if
(16:39):
you haven't seen it, it's such a good just like
a binge watch. It's like Liz Hurley's The Star. It's
just off the rails. I remember this reimagine the Royal
Family had a real point in time and Alexandra Park
played Princess Eleanor and that she was a star. She
came to Australia to promote one of the latest seasons
just as it was really taking off in Australia because
it had come to stand everyone was watching it, and
(16:59):
at the same time the show was all this drama
around it because Mark Schwan, who had been the creator
of One Tree Hill, all these allegations against him for
like abuse and sexual soul and everything had come out
and he was fired from The Royals, which was his show,
and then the cast of the Royals had also put
out a public letter saying that he had been like
terrible and saiding all these allegations, and Alexander's team was like,
(17:20):
don't ask her about it, and I was like, well,
I'm going to, because how can I not? And then
I started asking her in the interview and she was
like lovely about it. But I could also be like, oh, fuck,
this woman has just been through a really traumatic situation.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
She has to do press for this show.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
And this is nothing to do with her, Like she
wasn't actually involved in any of the allegations or anything
like that. And so I do have a lot of
regret that I was like I went into an interview
being like I'm going to ask her and I'm going
to get her to talk and I'm going to hold
her to account. Afterwards, I was like, that wasn't the
way to do it.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, I would regret that. Thanks for that support.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I was sure she's fine though it is, and also
like sometimes these are important questions, like the struggle I
think when you're a journalist, is wanting to like make
the person you're interviewing comfortable, but also knowing you're can
doing for a whole audience and these stories as well.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And yeah, exactly exactly. It's such an easy get sometimes
when there's backlash. And that's why so many actresses don't
comment on anything, because as soon as they comment on
any sort of backlash and then you can say to them, well,
you recently put out a statement and that's your in.
And once they've said that, it's public fodder. So I
understand why they don't. But yeah, look a couple of
regrets in there. Do you have any you are you
(18:29):
regret in life?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I have one regret, nothing that I did personally. I
want to say, I regret the whole interview happening.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Okay, well that's the bar. I've got plenty of those.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Basically, I was interviewing a very famous Australian comedian.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yes, well I will not name, but.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I love how I just named all of mine in
Burns and Bridges. You're gonna blame.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Her, Yeah, I'm blaming mine, not myself. Okay, So she
came in hungover, which you know what I've.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Will be in there, so you can't make that the
interviewer's problem.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
No, I'm like, and I'm a party girl. I respect
the party. I always respect the party, don't get me wrong.
So I was like kind of vibing with her. I
was like, oh my god, vibe say I'm also hungover.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I was like trying to relate. I was interviewing her
about some recent work she did, and I was asking
her questions and she couldn't remember.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
What she actually did.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
It was actually insane, and the thing I was doing
it was like a long time ago, like a few
years ago, but at mum and me at the time,
I was big into the dating space, like I was
a dating and relationships writer. That was my main forte.
And part of the whole interviews I was doing was
like they had to give me a dating story, like
a terrible dating story. And we had given her publicist
(19:41):
and herself like, be prepared, I'm going to ask you
the story, and they were like, yep, got it, you'll
have a story ready. She didn't have one ready. And
it was one of those situations where just for good content,
I had to give my own story for her to
react to. Like a story that I was saving for
like my like my own like thing, and I had
to use it for this interview just to like make
it like some sort of content.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
So at the end of the day, I guess in
some cases we are all Andy Cohen and asking someone
if they've taken assuming the lady Pond, and I.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Guess there's just there's no way out of here. She's
got to push through it.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
The weekend watch It's weekend watch time, and today I
am recommending a Stan Original documentary. It's called Trailblazers, Brace Yourselves.
It's a sports doco, which I know I'm a big
fan of and I always go on about my sports documentaries,
but this one is really good. It is about the
history of the Australian women's football team, the Matilda's. They're
(20:38):
having a big moment right now. I know, like everyone
went to the games when they were here for the
women's fee for World Cup, and I think now is
the best time to watch this documentary as we're leading
up to the Olympics, because I'm representing us in that
as well. The history of women's football is so insane,
Like there was a point where they were starting to
get really really big, especially when the men had to
go overseas for war, Like they were the entertainment. They
(21:00):
were the ones who were like doing sport and having
these big games and having these like sold out stadiums.
And then when the men came back, there was kind
of like this big clash over women's and men's footb all,
especially in England. And in England they actually made it
illegal for women to play on men's pitches and I.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Was like, freaking hell, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And because England was kind of like the top country
for football, that legal rule kind of started filtering out
to other countries where it became really uncouth for women
to play football. And the women who were ex Matilda's
players are just amazing. So many of them had to
pay to play, so many of them lost jobs just
because they were traveling for games. They had to like
stitch their own uniforms, they got hand me down from
the men. It was just like the amount they went
(21:40):
through just to play the game was absolutely outstanding.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
These are the women who changed football at the moment
remembered forever witnessed the incredible wise there was no infrastructure,
was really daunting. Just to fight to earn respect of
Australia's national teams.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It gives me goosebum was thinking about.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Discover the legacy.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Striking was the last option and Unbreakaby.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Spirits had come so far that defines them. This is
our story.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
So it's such a like wholesome, really good, feel good
watch understand.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Well, I'm also recommending a stand show today because I
have been waiting for this one to drop some and
so much. The screen is a little while ago and
it's finally here. It's called A Good Girl's Guide to Murder.
I love that title, isn't it. I want that to
be like on my Grasston. Well, I'm sure we can
organize that. That's a separate conversation. So this new series
is based on the best selling novel of the same
(22:31):
name by Holly Jackson. So when that book came out,
and it's the first in the series.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Reading that book rode on her bookshelf.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
When it came out, it was like shortlisted for all
these different awards and critics loved it and readers loved it,
and so it's finally been turned into a series. There's
six episodes and the star of the show is Emma Myers,
who a lot of people would know as Enid from
Wednesday because it's like she's the real breakout star for that,
and she's filming Wednesday, the second season of that. At
the moment, I think, really, yes, she's amazing in Wednesday,
(22:59):
and she's amazing in A.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Good Girl's Guide to Murder.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So she plays the leader Pip, who's a high school girl,
and basically she becomes very kind of fascinated with this
murder that took place five years for the events of
the show for this girl called Andy Bell, and the
police and everyone in the town, school and stuff all
think they know exactly what happened to Andy, that her
boyfriend murdered her case clothes the police or like he
definitely did it. Everyone knows. But then Pip, who's kind
(23:25):
of like very smart, very determined, very kind of across
what's happening, gets some information and she's like, I don't
think he did kill her five years ago. I think
something here has happened. And if he's not the murderer
of this big case in town of this young woman,
then who.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Is Nancy Drew.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It is a bit like I think maybe like Nancy
Drew pretty little liars, but a bit more elevated than that.
But like if you love that sort of like Veronica
Mars greater show of all. You know, if you like
that kind of like young spunky woman who's smarter than
everyone around her soulves a murder, then you're like this.
So then she starts delving into this murder of what
really happened to kind of uncover the truth.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
My name's Pip Fitzmoby.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
For the last few months, I've been investigating the Andy
Bell case.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Oh and just so you know, they got the wrong person.
Bribe like you that's are scared to do. Please believe
that your brother was innocent.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So if you didn't, who did?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
I guess that's what we need to find out. There
are a million of scrappencies about that night. Any one
of them could have killed Andy. What are you girls
talking about?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Ten?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So it's six episodes. It's really engaging. If you love
the book, then you love seeing it on the screen.
And if you haven't read the book, then don't google
anything about it. Just sit down and watch it because
you'll be really interested of how the story unfolds. So
that's a Good Girl's Guide to Murder and it's out
on stand now. Well, thank you so much for listening
to the Spill today. And if you love the Spill
or if you hate it, we're not against a hate listen.
(24:48):
We still get the downloads. Please head on over to
Apple and leave us a review and we'll see you
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Speaker 4 (24:59):
Bye, see us, L
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