November 13, 2024 • 27 mins
On the show today, we have a breaking news story of international proportions that we need to urgently discuss.
John Krasinski has been named People Magazine's Sexiest Man Alive. And the story of how he got there might actually blow your mind (or make you wince in embarrassment) and we need to discuss how another magazine swooped in and brutally stole his thunder.
Plus, are you aware of the bizarre story behind how Sexiest Man Alive actually began? Allow us to share with you.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm
Laura Brodnick and I'm ambam and on today's show, it
is the upset, the conspiracy theory that has rocked the nation.
Not since I think, you know, back to Australian Idol
voting days when people were robbed. Has people been so
upset calling about Guy Sebastian. Yeah, Shannonnsey is just like
(00:47):
this is I've been through this. We are, of course
talking about the man who was named Sexiest Man Alive
for twenty twenty four, young John Krasinski, who did not
know the backlash he was in for. But like, there's
quite a bit conspiracy behind this. There's some facts about
the competition. Another magazine swooped in and stole their thunder.
We're going to get into all that.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
But first, a few days ago we were granted a
little early Christmas gift. We were given the trailer for
the new Bridget Jones film. It's called Mad About the Boy,
and the fact that she still does these. I'm like,
you are one of the girls. She's just one of
the girls. She knows what we want and then she
gives it to us.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I know, because people keep saying like, oh, do we
really need this movie? But every time as we do, well, yeah, exactly,
that's what people are saying every time a new detail
is released or a new poster or now the trailer,
women in particular are going crazy. So I think Renes
Zilberger has just cut through all the nonsense. Like the
woman's got two oscars, now, you know what I mean,
Like she could be doing other things, but she knows
what the people want, so of course.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Rene's in it. Also, we have Hu Grant back, thank god.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's not like.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
We've talked about him much at all.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
There is a brief appearance by the lovely Colin Firth,
who is my favor, and I'm saying that he's not
in the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah, Leo Woodall is in it as well.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I don't know how I feel about that yet. I
know he's hot and sexy and funny and all those things.
I was like, is this the place for you, young man?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Is this the younger man? So I I was very,
very excited to see this trailer.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Bridge.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
If you're a widow with two wonderful children, my advice
to you is put your own oxygen mask on first.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You just have to get late shouts is right.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh my god, it's been four years.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Now, you're affectively a nun who.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I've set you up on Tinder?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
What tender?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
How old are you eight?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, I'm just kidding, twenty nine.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I love the trailer.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
There were a few I think bigger plot points that
were shown in the trailer which I want to talk
through today because I guess it's not a spoiler since
they spoil it first. Yes, it's alluded that Renee is
Bridget is a widow, she has two kids. She is
portrayed as an older mom, and in my opinion, I
(03:00):
was like, she just looks like every normal mom I've
ever said. Yeah, But I think the whole joke about
it is how she is a widow so young, yet
a mom so old, and so clearly our friend Colin
mister Darcy is dead.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
All that really kills me.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It really kills me. But it also made me roll
my eyes because I feel like with these big rejuvenations
of these shows, and movies that we love.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
It seems like such an easy.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Way out, and I was comparing it to and just
like that, like the spinoff from Sex and City with
Big dying like in the first episode and Carrie having
to like find herself as like a widow and like
getting into dating again and meeting someone again. And it's
really weird to me because both of these relationships, like
Bridget and Carrie, they were in these relationships with these
(03:49):
problematic men that were on and off again and the
fact that they want to keep that so pristine and
so pure rather than just saying.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
That they broke up again, like.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That's just life.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It feels really fairy taily in a way that these
shows and these movies was used to be so realistic
to me.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, it's interesting because to continuous story.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Especially a lot of these movies or TV shows that
are getting brought back at the moment is that they
really built up to like a very ultimate ending of
like these people are together, that's the end of their story,
and you can't come back and check on everyone, you know,
a few years down the track and everyone just be
happy and you know, their life going along because and
there's no plot point there's no stakes, there's no storyline.
So with and just like that, and then also with
(04:32):
these new Bridget Jones movies, you have to come in
and mess things up in order for there to be
a story. But sometimes I do think that really dilutes
the premise and it feels like, are you just messing
with these characters so that you can build another story
around them?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And like messing with the legacy.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Is interesting because I feel like Bridget Jones is a
perfect movie. Like you watch it back and forth now
and every and I know there's problematic things around it
and all that sort of stuff. It is like very
of its time, but at the same time, like the
comedic timing, the chemistry between the three leads, all of them, yeah,
even Colin and you, which is why I think they
still have their like fake few decades and decades later.
(05:09):
I saw the other day that Hugh Grant had had
us are like a pluque put up and it said
in loving memory of Colin Firth. He's not dead, but
he just looks it.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It was like lightning in a bottle, like you know,
it just all worked.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And each time they've made another Bridget Jones movie, and
I say, this with love, I.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Feel like it has diluted.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And I say that it's like my first big celebrity
interview was Bridget Jones Baby with Renee Zellwiger and Patrick Densey,
both absolutely lovely. So like, I don't want to saything bad
about that movie, but I do feel each time as
they move further away from the original premise, it loses
its magic. So I think this time having Bridget hooking
up with a hot leoh woodle.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Especially since it's trending now right like the trope of
the older woman with the hot younger man, I feel
like it's already overdone. Plus the widow's already overdone. It's
just like a lot of tropes that I'm tired of seeing,
and I hate seeing a beloved character like Bridget Jones
having to go through that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, and I do, I mean, I am really I've
got to say, I'm really excited to see it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And like I said, our audience.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Is spreadly honest with you here we come, oh one.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Hundred percent, like we will. Emily and I will be
first in line at that premiere. We'll be pushing people
out of the way, like we'll be turning people away
from selling our ticket.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
It's a lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, it's it's a lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
It's a fandom. So I'm I'm not unhappy that they
made it. I just yeah, I'm going to go with
an open mind. But I added, it's.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Just a trailer, so you have to be there exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
We're really I mean, I guess this is showing like
it's a lot for people to be in this invested,
like over twenty years. Like I remember going to see
Bridget Jones in a cinema with my friends for a
friend's birthday sleepover. And I hadn't read the book then
because I like, I don't know, I was super young.
I don't think we even know what was about. And
we just remember having I remember it was the first
time my curl my hair. It was a big nice
to me, and I just remember sitting at cinem and thinking, fuck,
(06:44):
this is like amazing, like I you know what I mean,
Like it's that memory has stayed with it.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I always have to fast forward the Playboy Bunny scene
because I really I can't deal with the secondhand Embarrasson.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Isn't the most quotable movie in the world, Like, and
my sisters and I can go for days with just
talking in Bridget Jones movie quotes, and we'll understand there's
a quote for every occasion.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So I don't know. I'm excited. I'm wary but excited.
Wary but excited. I like that.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So I want to at the scene of what happened yesterday.
Women across the world were aware of what time zone
they were in that the sexiest man alive cover would
be revealed.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I was so excited about this.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
This is wild to me how invested people got so
for the lots of time.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I was just us in the office because we had
to report on it. Yeah, it's like journalists, but now
it feels like the whole world is on board.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And joust is a loose word to use for this
particular story, but journalistic and.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Ever sorry on that.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Here in Sydney, we knew it was four PM and
there had been built up for days. There were all
these apparent leaks around who would be. People were making predictions.
It was filling up my algorithm. It was also filling
up just my real life charts. I could not walk
through this damn mirror office without someone being like, who
do you think is sexiest man's going to be?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And I was like, I really just trying to get
a glass of water.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And then it came closer to four pm, and I
wasn't in the office yesterday, but I was trying to
call my team to get across stuff. Everyone was just like, okay,
I can talk now, but like, come just before four pm,
I must be off the phone to watch the reveal.
So things were heightened, and then it was announced the
cover was shared that it was one John Krasinski as
the Sexiest Man Alive for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I ate a tuna sandwich on my first day so
and he started calling me big tuner.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I don't think any of them actually know my real name.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I'm in love with you what.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I'm really sorry if that's weird for you to hear,
but I needed you to hear it. I was about
to say, what is your reaction, Emily, but I think
you shared with us both last night on your Instagram
with some angry posts and today in the office.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I understand. Firstly, he is a very good looking young man.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
He is old man.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
If you for some wh he's in his forties, He's
not that old.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Agreed, he's good looking.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
He was probably at his prime in I want to
say the early two thousands when the Office was on. Yeah,
and I think that was a time he should have
been sexiest man. If there was a time for him
to be sexiest man, I forgot he existed, and I
didn't want to be reminded this way.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, I mean, this is all we have to get
into the backstory of how sexiest man rolls around. And
some would say, you know, he's had a lot of
big hit move he's become like a movie star director.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
But what was the reason why he was sexiest man? Like,
what was he promoting?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I mean, it's John Reach to right, Jack Reach exactly,
season four exactly. So the roll out, let's get to
that Creatia season four.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
We've all been waiting for.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Here's John Krasinski to tell all interview but Jack Reacher.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Obviously I'm not the demo with that is a very
popular show. Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
So the rollout was very very predictable in terms of
like the cover came out and then John started doing
the Late nine interviews, and I swear to god, every
single sexiest Man alive trots out the same interview points.
I was going deep back into the archives looking at
people who would you know been named back in the
nineties and you know, back to like twenty seventeen, it
(09:58):
was like Blake Shelton, which was the last time people
were this upset by the way, and they all say
a similar thing. First of all, they're just like, oh,
I'm not you know, I'm not sexy, Like no one
thinks that.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Haha, this is so funny, have you think it? Because
you did the cover?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And then if most of them will say like, my
mom will be really happy about this. I have yet
to find a sexiest man alive who hasn't trotted that
line out, either in the cover story or in the
interviews that follow, And all the moms are out there
being like, don't bring me into your sexiest man Stuffah.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Weird to put my nad on that.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
My mom's going to be really proud of me. And
then they all and then they do the predictable, like
with John last night on the late shows.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
They were like, so, how did Emily react And.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
She's like, oh, He's like I couldn't hear her for
like laughed down the phone. I was like, okay, well
that's the second point we always hit. My wife thinks
it's funny. My kids think it's funny. My friends are
going to make fun of me, and then it.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Feels so weird having a sexiest man alive who has
a wife and kids.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Like most of them do.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I know, we've very rarely had a single sexiest man alive.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I have we have who?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yes, there's been heaps the good ones.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, yeah, you are you thinking like twenty twenty Michael B. Jordan.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I'm thinking Michael B.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Jordan exactly anyone else because the last few years they've
all been coupled up. So Patrick Dempsey last year, which
people were very confused about it about that wife and kids.
Also an elder heartthrob. I'd say he seemed very happy
twenty twenty one, Paul Rudd. I mean, that's fine. You
can put a photo of him from any decade. Looks
the same then, obviously, Michael B. Jordan twenty twenty, twenty nineteen,
John Legend that was really at the height of him
(11:20):
and Chrissy Tigue and being like a bit of a
power online cup or before all the backlash around her
bullying kind of like pushed that to the side twenty eighteen.
Idris Elba Oh so good twenty seventeen the year we
don't speak of Blake Shelton twenty sixteen. Dwayne the Rock Johnson,
which I thought was interesting because I thought that was.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
More of us. Ah, we love this guy.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I give a movie star in the world very sexless,
I would say, have you know it? Also, he's just
never like, he's never the sexy guy in his movies,
Like he always has a romance, but it's always very
like chaste, and he very much.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Could be like if he tried, he could be the
sexy guy.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
And it's funny that he's.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Just like nah, nah, He's like, I'm just here to suits.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
But I take your exclusive.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Interview and he's like, then I'll always give my love
interests like a little kiss on the lips at the end,
but nothing more, nothing more, and hands where I can
see them twenty fifteen. David Beckham, the ultimate like wife guy.
That was a good one twenty fourteen and Chris Hemsworth
also the ultimate white Kid's a weird photo of Chris Hemsworth.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yes, you you're thinking back to twenty fourteen, you remember that.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, he's got.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
A bit of longer, like a bit of a shag,
doesn't he. Yeah, yeah, Okay, like that it's very thory.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yes, well, I mean that's what he would have been
promoting at the time. So now we have to talk
about the elephant in the room, which is why did
John Krasinski win this when there was so much So what.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
If you really think about Come on.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Emily, he's been like a he's been an actor for
two decades. He's in a very famous Hollywood relationship, and
people love that he's directed and starred in some really
big movies. Come on, now, Yeah, I'm not saying he
should be sexiest man alive. I think he's very handsome,
but I don't know. He's got weird like just like
goofy dad energy. Now, so I wouldn't be looking at
him as a sad I think, like it's not Maybe
I have to watch John Reacher, Jacob Reaching.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
They've changed.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
James Josh Reacher.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
They've changed the criteria of what accounts as sexy. It
used to be sexy. Okay, you used to be Hugh Jackman.
It used to be Michael B.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Jordan's.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Actually, it used to be Idris Elba.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Actually it used to be the guy who was the
most problematic. And they didn't mean to start Sexiest Man Alive.
You're cross the story.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Who's this?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Okay, this might upset everything you know about Sexiest Man
Alive as a Donald Trump No, but you're on the
right path on.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
No, who is it?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
The first Sexiest Man Alive was Mel Gibson in nineteen
eighty five, so that is before either of us were born.
That's how far we're going back. And it's a bit
of a controversial story of how it happened. So Slate
magazine did a big, deep dive into the history of
Sexiest Man Alive in twenty fourteen, and they interviewed a
(13:56):
lot of people who were involved in its conception, who
obviously don't work for People now so they can speak
more freely. So what happened is that Michelle Green, who
was a former writer at People Magazine, was on the
set of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome and she was interviewing
Mel Gibson. And look, he didn't come off great. He
used some derogatory terms. He also said the movie he
(14:20):
was promoting was a piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
He told the reporter I don't even want to be doing.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
This interview, And he was drinking and smoking throughout and
being very upsetting and aggressive.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And they called him the Sexiest Man Alive.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well, yes, because so the interview was awful. He was awful.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
He came across terrible, but he was considered, like, you know,
the biggest star in Hollywood at the time. People were
very obsessed with him and thought he was hot. And
so when Michelle Green filed her story, she ended her
whole big, juicy article with the line and then the
Sexiest Man Alive slouches away alone. Oh oh, and that
became that last line. That was so so she just
(14:59):
printed everything he said, every awful thing he'd said, but
she was also writing that, you know, he is this
huge star. But then she's ending it saying like, yeah,
we call him the Sexiest Man Alive. And he slouched
away alone, and that became the magazine cover line Sexiest
Man Alive. Because the editors saw that were like ooh,
and that magazine wanted to sell two million copies, which
was oh.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
So the article came before the series.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yes, and then the franchise was born from that.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And in this interview Michelle Green, she talks about accidentally
launching the Sexiest Man Alive franchise because they didn't mean to.
It was just the end of this awful piece that
she filed them out mel Gibson calling him the sexiest
man Alive.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
God, I hope just got a commission on this and
they use as the cover line.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
It just sold and from then on they were like,
this is something we're going to do every year, name
the sexiest man Alive.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So did everyone know this about mel Gibson in the
way where they used the line sexiest man Alive?
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Because I knew it'd be controversial.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I think they just thought it was like it was
a sexy, controversial thing to put because it hadn't been
used on a magazine cover story like that before. And
also the interview that ran was so polar opposite. Yeah, exactly,
But it was that kind of dangerous thing of being like, oh,
he's a terrible guy and he's said a lot of
derogatory things and he's been awful to this journalist, but
look at that face.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
But that face.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So Michelle Green has since said it's something that she
sort of hates having unleashed upon the world, and in
this Slate In this Slate interview, she says the very
idea of a sexiest man Alive is a false concept.
It's not do I want to fuck this guy. It's
a very calculated feature that's all about selling magazines, and
I can't believe people.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Fall for it.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Oh, it's a calculated like build up to sell magazines.
And quite a few people who have also been involved
in over the years who have now done interviews about
it since have said that a lot of the time,
especially now, they try and make very controversial decisions because
those issues sell more and they get way more press.
So I think with John Cusin see it every time
because you think how many people repost that going oh
(16:49):
my god, like you reposted it right, Yeah, yeah, we
posted all across OSH socials because it was getting so
much engagedment.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I don't believe I fell for it. Yeah, God damn it.
But it's like so true, Like I think she's right.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
It's always been like such a hot topic every year,
especially this year in particular, and then we always see
the year where they try to do good and like
Black Lives Matter is happening and they were like John Legend,
Michael and and then like straight after they were like, okay,
now we can go back to.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
The white Yeah, we've gone back to that.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
So we do need to talk.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
About this issue in particular, and not because of John Krasinski,
but what could have been.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Okay, now we've got the mel Gibson law out of
the way.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So coming back to the elephant in the room, which
is how did he get picked? And because I think
leading into it, people who maybe aren't sort of across
the process and how magazines and media work, especially in
this digital age, were saying like, well, it's got to
be Glenn Powell, because Glenn Powell is the hottest man
around right now and everyone's obsessed with him, and he's
had this huge year of movies.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's going to be him.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And then people were thinking, poor mescal because again, big
year of movies, a lot of hype around him. And
then some people are saying like, oh, but like we're
in the era of the Adam Brodie come back, maybe
it'll be him. And the thing about this is that
it doesn't come down to who the people want and
who is sexiest. A lot of the time it comes
down to who says yes.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Who agrees that they are the sexiest man?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So if you read the people like explanation on this,
they say that they start prepping it months in advance,
they talk about who's the excite guys, who they want,
They have focus groups and I'm sure all that does
absolutely happen behind the scenes. But then you have to
start calling people's management teams and asking if they want
to do it.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
You can't just be named sexiest Man of the Year.
You have to agree to it, and you have to
agree to all of the terms and stipulations and agreements
which do last for a whole year. So first of all,
have you have to agree to accept the title well beforehand.
Then you have to agree to appear in the cover
shoot and the videos that's obviously a big part of
your time.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
You have to agree to the interview.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You have to agree to share certain information in the
interview and like make it worthwhile. You then have to
agree to do the press where you can also promote
your own products, and a lot of actors who want
more promo for their projects at the time often say
yes because then they're getting the promo spots for their
new movie or TV show, but they're also getting a
sexistmount of live promo shots. They're doubling their promotion for
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their new products, which is important. So then you have
to agree to do all of that, do the press,
and you also have to agree I couldn't only proven anyway.
This is just a lot of people behind the scenes
saying almost like the conspiracy theory of people's sexiest man.
If you will that you also have to agree to
like a different number of like exclusives, interviews, access during
the year. So it's a year long commitment to do this,
and you've got to think, like Glenn Powell doesn't need
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it right now exactly. And the thing is they've both
just come off these huge promotional tours. They've done so
much pressed and so many interviews. And also, not to
be unfair to our good friend John Krisinski over here,
but like Paul and Glenn can get those big magazine
covers at the moment and those big interviews because they
are so hot right.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Now, Like why would they try get locked into one
like people, Yeah, they could have.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
It without the gimmick.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Whereas John Kristinski I think still has a lot of
power and I don't I think that he still obviously
can book a late night spot, but like, can he
book a big solo magazine cover by himself now without
doing a massive tell all about Emily Brunt, like potentially not,
but a lot of people who I follow who work
in the industry were saying, like, between you and me,
I organized magazine cover shoots and this guy was so
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fight out the list. And the same thing was said
about Patrick Dempsey last year.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like they called everyone who had a movie coming out
at the time or a new TV show coming out
the time, and they went down the list until they
hit someone who said yes.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah, that makes sense to me.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So it's kind of like the sexiest man alive is
chosen because there's no other publication really wants to give
them an exclusive or interview, and that everyone else before
you said no, and everyone else before you said no,
and sudden you're bumped to the top and you're like,
I'll take what I can get, and it's the sexiest man.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Because a lot of outlets have reporting and again like
not proven, but you just would.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Hotel was such a high contender. He had a massive
year this year.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Well apparently Dev Pattel and Paul and Glenn Power were
all like asked in like aggressively aggressively courted is the
term that being used.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Promising them like we'll do this for you will do that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You don't even have to, like you barely have to
be in the photo, like you only do under one button,
not even the whole time. They're like, nah, man, And
then I'm not doing that, Especially Paul, He's like, I'm
just it's gone on like fifty red carpets from the world.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Have you talked about my short shorts and running. I'm
not doing that. My mum will live without it.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
So they hit on John Krasinski, you know, and he's
out there doing the work. But then something unfortunate happened
last night. As we were in the throes of still
processing what had happened, an unfortunate reveal came our way.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
The battle of the publication, So Yes, John Krasinski was announced.
Everyone was upset, but obviously resharing it and reading the
interview and looking at the cover.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And all the reactions was so good.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
The reactions were absolutely brilliant because people so badly wanted
it to be. It wasn't even in anyone's mind, Like
every single person who was waiting for this, No one
said John Czinte, I know.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Some of the people just showing things like stay in line,
keep voting, don't give up, stay in line, stay on
the call, stay on the call. Don't let this happen.
It's like the magazine's being printed. But the conspiracy theories
were so deep, Like I was seeing these videos go
around where they were like it was apparently a leak
from this Sexiest Man a Life photo shoot and the
person was wearing a brown jacket. Everyone's like, Glen Powell
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has a brown jacket, and I was like, oh, long
boat to draw.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And then someone's like the weight, no, no, but the
way he reaches his.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Arm up in the photo in the blurrydest you can
see that's Glenn Powell, and I'm like, oh, we just.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Want this to be true, but it's just not.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Glen Powell was doing something else.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
So after that was released, I think people were like
kind of like that was a good year, guys.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, no one liked it, but guess what they still
looked at it.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, and then something unexpected happened, according to People, according
to me, according.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
To People, the people, not the magazine.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
People.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Last Night.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Vanity Fair released their twenty twenty five Hollywood issue literally
the day after People magazine announced the Sexiest Man and
some of the men in this issue were the men
that we were the rather seen as a sexiest man alive,
and it all just started to make sense. So you
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said that obviously, when you give an exclusive interview, that
means you can't give it to any other publication. Yes,
So in the twenty twenty five Hollywood Issue, firstly, let
me explain what it is in case. We have talked
about a few times, but I saw this line and
it like kind of summed it up perfectly for me.
It said, it's like the yearly status update on the
whole industry, and as always is full of surprises. So
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basically the Hollywood Issue for Vanity Fair is them getting
together not just like the biggest celebrities of that year,
but who they think is like the most trending, the
most fast forward. And it's not just actors, it's also
personalities and creators kind of the people who are shaping
the entertainment industry for the next year. Yeah, So in
this issue we have Zendaya, Glen Powell. It's like a
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knife to the heart, Zoe Saldana, Nicole Kidman, deav fatel No,
Sidney Sweeney, Josh O'Connor, Danielle Deadweiler, Jonathan Bailey, a great one.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I mean, he's the sexiest man alive every day the
rest of the time.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Lisa Natuti Gatwa and Bill Scar's guard also quite sexy.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Oh and yeah, yeah, shooting and affairs stole all the
men from people.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
They took all the sexy.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
For them because of this like massive issue they all
have to give exclusive interviews. So all of these men
couldn't also give an exclusive interview to people exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Like, so there's so much politics and like agreements and
exclusivity that goes into booking a mag cover. And obviously
all the mags are in different you know, the different
levels of prestige. They're all looking to the same talent pool.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
They all want a Vanity Fair.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And so they were trying to book Shooty or they're
trying to book Glen Power, They're trying to book Devil
someone like that, but they can't because they're already locked
into Vanity Fair.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
And of course, oh my Goshy would have been so good.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Sexiest Man Batman is.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
So they knew what they were doing.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
They knew what they They dropped a sexy cover on
the same day as people dropped their sexiest Man Alive
cover and stole all their thunder. It just be like,
if you like really were into a guy, I wanted
to date them, and you looked on Instagram and saw
they were going on a date with your best friends.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
That's People magazine today.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Oh People. People.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Also, I did have a little look see at the
Glen Powell exclusive and it's just so good because he
discloses some of the stuff that we've been talking about
since that movie came out with Sidney Sweeney, anyone but you.
He did say that we leaned into the chemistry, we
leaned into the fun, we lean into all of it,
and the movie benefited, which is exactly what everyone was saying,
and like they're definitely together and we were saying, no,
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they're playing a part. And he talked about how the
entire press tour for that with Sidney Sweeney felt like
a performance in itself. Yeah, they knew exactly what.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
They were doing.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
And he said it an exclusive interview for vanity fans.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
All the hot pictures, so well played, well played, Oh
my god. So it just goes to show like there's
conspiracy theories, there's cutthroat backdoor deals like Sexiest Men Alive.
It's not a it's not a fun time, it's not
for the faint of heart, and poor John Krasinski.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Like tramanity.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Guys, Hey, guys, you're looking for someone else to add
to your issue.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
We should photo shopping in.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Because last night, as we were talking about the Sexies
manle life, you were like you were looking at all
the backlash and then you look to John Kazinski and like,
this man really put his life on the line for this.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
He's like, yeah, well, I hate that's coming here, and
I think it's.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Going to be even harder for people next year because
social media is getting more and more quicker at these things,
Like memes were made within seconds of this being announced,
like what man.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Would want this?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
What man would actually want all of these children to be?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Like?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Who is this guy?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I have thought? I know, Well, anyway, just go watch
Jackson Reach.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Others say just don't watch Jeremiah Reacher's show, and yeah, sexies.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Maybe he just seems to give a derogatory into you
next time and he'll be Allah mel Gibson right back
to the notes.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
For some BTS knowledge if you're if you follow our Instagram,
which you definitely should be. At the Spill podcast, you
might be seeing some rogue esque posts and that's because
entertainment editor Tina Burke, who has been on the podcast before,
was very upset with the announcement of Sexiest Live. So
she took it upon herself to be like, if I'm
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not going to get the sexiest man I want, I'm
just gonna post them all over the Spill Instagram.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, and she's like, do I have to She's like,
do I have to check with you first? You post
whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
You're going through something, just let it out.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
So it is so rogue.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I'm seeing it for the first time when it appears
on the Spills so I guess a bill alert but
not alarmed at house.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Give it a like, give it a follow. Tina needs this.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It's a sexy feed. The Spill Instagram has gotten very
sexy lately.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
We will be back here in your podcast feed at
three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Bye bye, Nan
So much. You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm
Laura Brodnick and I'm ambam and on today's show, it
is the upset, the conspiracy theory that has rocked the nation.
Not since I think, you know, back to Australian Idol
voting days when people were robbed. Has people been so
upset calling about Guy Sebastian. Yeah, Shannonnsey is just like
(00:47):
this is I've been through this. We are, of course
talking about the man who was named Sexiest Man Alive
for twenty twenty four, young John Krasinski, who did not
know the backlash he was in for. But like, there's
quite a bit conspiracy behind this. There's some facts about
the competition. Another magazine swooped in and stole their thunder.
We're going to get into all that.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
But first, a few days ago we were granted a
little early Christmas gift. We were given the trailer for
the new Bridget Jones film. It's called Mad About the Boy,
and the fact that she still does these. I'm like,
you are one of the girls. She's just one of
the girls. She knows what we want and then she
gives it to us.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I know, because people keep saying like, oh, do we
really need this movie? But every time as we do, well, yeah, exactly,
that's what people are saying every time a new detail
is released or a new poster or now the trailer,
women in particular are going crazy. So I think Renes
Zilberger has just cut through all the nonsense. Like the
woman's got two oscars, now, you know what I mean,
Like she could be doing other things, but she knows
what the people want, so of course.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Rene's in it. Also, we have Hu Grant back, thank god.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's not like.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
We've talked about him much at all.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
There is a brief appearance by the lovely Colin Firth,
who is my favor, and I'm saying that he's not
in the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah, Leo Woodall is in it as well.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I don't know how I feel about that yet. I
know he's hot and sexy and funny and all those things.
I was like, is this the place for you, young man?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Is this the younger man? So I I was very,
very excited to see this trailer.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Bridge.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
If you're a widow with two wonderful children, my advice
to you is put your own oxygen mask on first.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You just have to get late shouts is right.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh my god, it's been four years.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Now, you're affectively a nun who.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I've set you up on Tinder?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
What tender?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
How old are you eight?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, I'm just kidding, twenty nine.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I love the trailer.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
There were a few I think bigger plot points that
were shown in the trailer which I want to talk
through today because I guess it's not a spoiler since
they spoil it first. Yes, it's alluded that Renee is
Bridget is a widow, she has two kids. She is
portrayed as an older mom, and in my opinion, I
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was like, she just looks like every normal mom I've
ever said. Yeah, But I think the whole joke about
it is how she is a widow so young, yet
a mom so old, and so clearly our friend Colin
mister Darcy is dead.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
All that really kills me.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It really kills me. But it also made me roll
my eyes because I feel like with these big rejuvenations
of these shows, and movies that we love.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
It seems like such an easy.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Way out, and I was comparing it to and just
like that, like the spinoff from Sex and City with
Big dying like in the first episode and Carrie having
to like find herself as like a widow and like
getting into dating again and meeting someone again. And it's
really weird to me because both of these relationships, like
Bridget and Carrie, they were in these relationships with these
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problematic men that were on and off again and the
fact that they want to keep that so pristine and
so pure rather than just saying.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
That they broke up again, like.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That's just life.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It feels really fairy taily in a way that these
shows and these movies was used to be so realistic
to me.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, it's interesting because to continuous story.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Especially a lot of these movies or TV shows that
are getting brought back at the moment is that they
really built up to like a very ultimate ending of
like these people are together, that's the end of their story,
and you can't come back and check on everyone, you know,
a few years down the track and everyone just be
happy and you know, their life going along because and
there's no plot point there's no stakes, there's no storyline.
So with and just like that, and then also with
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these new Bridget Jones movies, you have to come in
and mess things up in order for there to be
a story. But sometimes I do think that really dilutes
the premise and it feels like, are you just messing
with these characters so that you can build another story
around them?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And like messing with the legacy.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Is interesting because I feel like Bridget Jones is a
perfect movie. Like you watch it back and forth now
and every and I know there's problematic things around it
and all that sort of stuff. It is like very
of its time, but at the same time, like the
comedic timing, the chemistry between the three leads, all of them, yeah,
even Colin and you, which is why I think they
still have their like fake few decades and decades later.
(05:09):
I saw the other day that Hugh Grant had had
us are like a pluque put up and it said
in loving memory of Colin Firth. He's not dead, but
he just looks it.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It was like lightning in a bottle, like you know,
it just all worked.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And each time they've made another Bridget Jones movie, and
I say, this with love, I.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Feel like it has diluted.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And I say that it's like my first big celebrity
interview was Bridget Jones Baby with Renee Zellwiger and Patrick Densey,
both absolutely lovely. So like, I don't want to saything bad
about that movie, but I do feel each time as
they move further away from the original premise, it loses
its magic. So I think this time having Bridget hooking
up with a hot leoh woodle.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Especially since it's trending now right like the trope of
the older woman with the hot younger man, I feel
like it's already overdone. Plus the widow's already overdone. It's
just like a lot of tropes that I'm tired of seeing,
and I hate seeing a beloved character like Bridget Jones
having to go through that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, and I do, I mean, I am really I've
got to say, I'm really excited to see it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And like I said, our audience.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Is spreadly honest with you here we come, oh one.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Hundred percent, like we will. Emily and I will be
first in line at that premiere. We'll be pushing people
out of the way, like we'll be turning people away
from selling our ticket.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
It's a lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, it's it's a lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
It's a fandom. So I'm I'm not unhappy that they
made it. I just yeah, I'm going to go with
an open mind. But I added, it's.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Just a trailer, so you have to be there exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
We're really I mean, I guess this is showing like
it's a lot for people to be in this invested,
like over twenty years. Like I remember going to see
Bridget Jones in a cinema with my friends for a
friend's birthday sleepover. And I hadn't read the book then
because I like, I don't know, I was super young.
I don't think we even know what was about. And
we just remember having I remember it was the first
time my curl my hair. It was a big nice
to me, and I just remember sitting at cinem and thinking, fuck,
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this is like amazing, like I you know what I mean,
Like it's that memory has stayed with it.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I always have to fast forward the Playboy Bunny scene
because I really I can't deal with the secondhand Embarrasson.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Isn't the most quotable movie in the world, Like, and
my sisters and I can go for days with just
talking in Bridget Jones movie quotes, and we'll understand there's
a quote for every occasion.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So I don't know. I'm excited. I'm wary but excited.
Wary but excited. I like that.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So I want to at the scene of what happened yesterday.
Women across the world were aware of what time zone
they were in that the sexiest man alive cover would
be revealed.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I was so excited about this.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
This is wild to me how invested people got so
for the lots of time.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I was just us in the office because we had
to report on it. Yeah, it's like journalists, but now
it feels like the whole world is on board.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And joust is a loose word to use for this
particular story, but journalistic and.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Ever sorry on that.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Here in Sydney, we knew it was four PM and
there had been built up for days. There were all
these apparent leaks around who would be. People were making predictions.
It was filling up my algorithm. It was also filling
up just my real life charts. I could not walk
through this damn mirror office without someone being like, who
do you think is sexiest man's going to be?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And I was like, I really just trying to get
a glass of water.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And then it came closer to four pm, and I
wasn't in the office yesterday, but I was trying to
call my team to get across stuff. Everyone was just like, okay,
I can talk now, but like, come just before four pm,
I must be off the phone to watch the reveal.
So things were heightened, and then it was announced the
cover was shared that it was one John Krasinski as
the Sexiest Man Alive for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I ate a tuna sandwich on my first day so
and he started calling me big tuner.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I don't think any of them actually know my real name.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I'm in love with you what.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I'm really sorry if that's weird for you to hear,
but I needed you to hear it. I was about
to say, what is your reaction, Emily, but I think
you shared with us both last night on your Instagram
with some angry posts and today in the office.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I understand. Firstly, he is a very good looking young man.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
He is old man.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
If you for some wh he's in his forties, He's
not that old.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Agreed, he's good looking.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
He was probably at his prime in I want to
say the early two thousands when the Office was on. Yeah,
and I think that was a time he should have
been sexiest man. If there was a time for him
to be sexiest man, I forgot he existed, and I
didn't want to be reminded this way.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, I mean, this is all we have to get
into the backstory of how sexiest man rolls around. And
some would say, you know, he's had a lot of
big hit move he's become like a movie star director.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
But what was the reason why he was sexiest man? Like,
what was he promoting?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I mean, it's John Reach to right, Jack Reach exactly,
season four exactly. So the roll out, let's get to
that Creatia season four.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
We've all been waiting for.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Here's John Krasinski to tell all interview but Jack Reacher.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Obviously I'm not the demo with that is a very
popular show. Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
So the rollout was very very predictable in terms of
like the cover came out and then John started doing
the Late nine interviews, and I swear to god, every
single sexiest Man alive trots out the same interview points.
I was going deep back into the archives looking at
people who would you know been named back in the
nineties and you know, back to like twenty seventeen, it
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was like Blake Shelton, which was the last time people
were this upset by the way, and they all say
a similar thing. First of all, they're just like, oh,
I'm not you know, I'm not sexy, Like no one
thinks that.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Haha, this is so funny, have you think it? Because
you did the cover?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And then if most of them will say like, my
mom will be really happy about this. I have yet
to find a sexiest man alive who hasn't trotted that
line out, either in the cover story or in the
interviews that follow, And all the moms are out there
being like, don't bring me into your sexiest man Stuffah.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Weird to put my nad on that.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
My mom's going to be really proud of me. And
then they all and then they do the predictable, like
with John last night on the late shows.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
They were like, so, how did Emily react And.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
She's like, oh, He's like I couldn't hear her for
like laughed down the phone. I was like, okay, well
that's the second point we always hit. My wife thinks
it's funny. My kids think it's funny. My friends are
going to make fun of me, and then it.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Feels so weird having a sexiest man alive who has
a wife and kids.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Like most of them do.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I know, we've very rarely had a single sexiest man alive.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I have we have who?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yes, there's been heaps the good ones.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Well, yeah, you are you thinking like twenty twenty Michael B. Jordan.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I'm thinking Michael B.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Jordan exactly anyone else because the last few years they've
all been coupled up. So Patrick Dempsey last year, which
people were very confused about it about that wife and kids.
Also an elder heartthrob. I'd say he seemed very happy
twenty twenty one, Paul Rudd. I mean, that's fine. You
can put a photo of him from any decade. Looks
the same then, obviously, Michael B. Jordan twenty twenty, twenty nineteen,
John Legend that was really at the height of him
(11:20):
and Chrissy Tigue and being like a bit of a
power online cup or before all the backlash around her
bullying kind of like pushed that to the side twenty eighteen.
Idris Elba Oh so good twenty seventeen the year we
don't speak of Blake Shelton twenty sixteen. Dwayne the Rock Johnson,
which I thought was interesting because I thought that was.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
More of us. Ah, we love this guy.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I give a movie star in the world very sexless,
I would say, have you know it? Also, he's just
never like, he's never the sexy guy in his movies,
Like he always has a romance, but it's always very
like chaste, and he very much.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Could be like if he tried, he could be the
sexy guy.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
And it's funny that he's.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Just like nah, nah, He's like, I'm just here to suits.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
But I take your exclusive.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Interview and he's like, then I'll always give my love
interests like a little kiss on the lips at the end,
but nothing more, nothing more, and hands where I can
see them twenty fifteen. David Beckham, the ultimate like wife guy.
That was a good one twenty fourteen and Chris Hemsworth
also the ultimate white Kid's a weird photo of Chris Hemsworth.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yes, you you're thinking back to twenty fourteen, you remember that.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, he's got.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
A bit of longer, like a bit of a shag,
doesn't he. Yeah, yeah, Okay, like that it's very thory.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yes, well, I mean that's what he would have been
promoting at the time. So now we have to talk
about the elephant in the room, which is why did
John Krasinski win this when there was so much So what.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
If you really think about Come on.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Emily, he's been like a he's been an actor for
two decades. He's in a very famous Hollywood relationship, and
people love that he's directed and starred in some really
big movies. Come on, now, Yeah, I'm not saying he
should be sexiest man alive. I think he's very handsome,
but I don't know. He's got weird like just like
goofy dad energy. Now, so I wouldn't be looking at
him as a sad I think, like it's not Maybe
I have to watch John Reacher, Jacob Reaching.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
They've changed.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
James Josh Reacher.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
They've changed the criteria of what accounts as sexy. It
used to be sexy. Okay, you used to be Hugh Jackman.
It used to be Michael B.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Jordan's.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Actually, it used to be Idris Elba.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Actually it used to be the guy who was the
most problematic. And they didn't mean to start Sexiest Man Alive.
You're cross the story.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Who's this?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Okay, this might upset everything you know about Sexiest Man
Alive as a Donald Trump No, but you're on the
right path on.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
No, who is it?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
The first Sexiest Man Alive was Mel Gibson in nineteen
eighty five, so that is before either of us were born.
That's how far we're going back. And it's a bit
of a controversial story of how it happened. So Slate
magazine did a big, deep dive into the history of
Sexiest Man Alive in twenty fourteen, and they interviewed a
(13:56):
lot of people who were involved in its conception, who
obviously don't work for People now so they can speak
more freely. So what happened is that Michelle Green, who
was a former writer at People Magazine, was on the
set of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome and she was interviewing
Mel Gibson. And look, he didn't come off great. He
used some derogatory terms. He also said the movie he
(14:20):
was promoting was a piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
He told the reporter I don't even want to be doing.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
This interview, And he was drinking and smoking throughout and
being very upsetting and aggressive.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
And they called him the Sexiest Man Alive.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Well, yes, because so the interview was awful. He was awful.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
He came across terrible, but he was considered, like, you know,
the biggest star in Hollywood at the time. People were
very obsessed with him and thought he was hot. And
so when Michelle Green filed her story, she ended her
whole big, juicy article with the line and then the
Sexiest Man Alive slouches away alone. Oh oh, and that
became that last line. That was so so she just
(14:59):
printed everything he said, every awful thing he'd said, but
she was also writing that, you know, he is this
huge star. But then she's ending it saying like, yeah,
we call him the Sexiest Man Alive. And he slouched
away alone, and that became the magazine cover line Sexiest
Man Alive. Because the editors saw that were like ooh,
and that magazine wanted to sell two million copies, which
was oh.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
So the article came before the series.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yes, and then the franchise was born from that.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And in this interview Michelle Green, she talks about accidentally
launching the Sexiest Man Alive franchise because they didn't mean to.
It was just the end of this awful piece that
she filed them out mel Gibson calling him the sexiest
man Alive.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
God, I hope just got a commission on this and
they use as the cover line.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
It just sold and from then on they were like,
this is something we're going to do every year, name
the sexiest man Alive.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So did everyone know this about mel Gibson in the
way where they used the line sexiest man Alive?
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Because I knew it'd be controversial.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I think they just thought it was like it was
a sexy, controversial thing to put because it hadn't been
used on a magazine cover story like that before. And
also the interview that ran was so polar opposite. Yeah, exactly,
But it was that kind of dangerous thing of being like, oh,
he's a terrible guy and he's said a lot of
derogatory things and he's been awful to this journalist, but
look at that face.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
But that face.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So Michelle Green has since said it's something that she
sort of hates having unleashed upon the world, and in
this Slate In this Slate interview, she says the very
idea of a sexiest man Alive is a false concept.
It's not do I want to fuck this guy. It's
a very calculated feature that's all about selling magazines, and
I can't believe people.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Fall for it.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Oh, it's a calculated like build up to sell magazines.
And quite a few people who have also been involved
in over the years who have now done interviews about
it since have said that a lot of the time,
especially now, they try and make very controversial decisions because
those issues sell more and they get way more press.
So I think with John Cusin see it every time
because you think how many people repost that going oh
(16:49):
my god, like you reposted it right, Yeah, yeah, we
posted all across OSH socials because it was getting so
much engagedment.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I don't believe I fell for it. Yeah, God damn it.
But it's like so true, Like I think she's right.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
It's always been like such a hot topic every year,
especially this year in particular, and then we always see
the year where they try to do good and like
Black Lives Matter is happening and they were like John Legend,
Michael and and then like straight after they were like, okay,
now we can go back to.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
The white Yeah, we've gone back to that.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
So we do need to talk.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
About this issue in particular, and not because of John Krasinski,
but what could have been.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Okay, now we've got the mel Gibson law out of
the way.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So coming back to the elephant in the room, which
is how did he get picked? And because I think
leading into it, people who maybe aren't sort of across
the process and how magazines and media work, especially in
this digital age, were saying like, well, it's got to
be Glenn Powell, because Glenn Powell is the hottest man
around right now and everyone's obsessed with him, and he's
had this huge year of movies.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's going to be him.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And then people were thinking, poor mescal because again, big
year of movies, a lot of hype around him. And
then some people are saying like, oh, but like we're
in the era of the Adam Brodie come back, maybe
it'll be him. And the thing about this is that
it doesn't come down to who the people want and
who is sexiest. A lot of the time it comes
down to who says yes.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Who agrees that they are the sexiest man?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So if you read the people like explanation on this,
they say that they start prepping it months in advance,
they talk about who's the excite guys, who they want,
They have focus groups and I'm sure all that does
absolutely happen behind the scenes. But then you have to
start calling people's management teams and asking if they want
to do it.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
You can't just be named sexiest Man of the Year.
You have to agree to it, and you have to
agree to all of the terms and stipulations and agreements
which do last for a whole year. So first of all,
have you have to agree to accept the title well beforehand.
Then you have to agree to appear in the cover
shoot and the videos that's obviously a big part of
your time.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
You have to agree to the interview.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You have to agree to share certain information in the
interview and like make it worthwhile. You then have to
agree to do the press where you can also promote
your own products, and a lot of actors who want
more promo for their projects at the time often say
yes because then they're getting the promo spots for their
new movie or TV show, but they're also getting a
sexistmount of live promo shots. They're doubling their promotion for
(19:05):
their new products, which is important. So then you have
to agree to do all of that, do the press,
and you also have to agree I couldn't only proven anyway.
This is just a lot of people behind the scenes
saying almost like the conspiracy theory of people's sexiest man.
If you will that you also have to agree to
like a different number of like exclusives, interviews, access during
the year. So it's a year long commitment to do this,
and you've got to think, like Glenn Powell doesn't need
(19:27):
it right now exactly. And the thing is they've both
just come off these huge promotional tours. They've done so
much pressed and so many interviews. And also, not to
be unfair to our good friend John Krisinski over here,
but like Paul and Glenn can get those big magazine
covers at the moment and those big interviews because they
are so hot right.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Now, Like why would they try get locked into one
like people, Yeah, they could have.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
It without the gimmick.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Whereas John Kristinski I think still has a lot of
power and I don't I think that he still obviously
can book a late night spot, but like, can he
book a big solo magazine cover by himself now without
doing a massive tell all about Emily Brunt, like potentially not,
but a lot of people who I follow who work
in the industry were saying, like, between you and me,
I organized magazine cover shoots and this guy was so
(20:13):
fight out the list. And the same thing was said
about Patrick Dempsey last year.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like they called everyone who had a movie coming out
at the time or a new TV show coming out
the time, and they went down the list until they
hit someone who said yes.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah, that makes sense to me.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So it's kind of like the sexiest man alive is
chosen because there's no other publication really wants to give
them an exclusive or interview, and that everyone else before
you said no, and everyone else before you said no,
and sudden you're bumped to the top and you're like,
I'll take what I can get, and it's the sexiest man.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Because a lot of outlets have reporting and again like
not proven, but you just would.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Hotel was such a high contender. He had a massive
year this year.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Well apparently Dev Pattel and Paul and Glenn Power were
all like asked in like aggressively aggressively courted is the
term that being used.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Promising them like we'll do this for you will do that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You don't even have to, like you barely have to
be in the photo, like you only do under one button,
not even the whole time. They're like, nah, man, And
then I'm not doing that, Especially Paul, He's like, I'm
just it's gone on like fifty red carpets from the world.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Have you talked about my short shorts and running. I'm
not doing that. My mum will live without it.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
So they hit on John Krasinski, you know, and he's
out there doing the work. But then something unfortunate happened
last night. As we were in the throes of still
processing what had happened, an unfortunate reveal came our way.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
The battle of the publication, So Yes, John Krasinski was announced.
Everyone was upset, but obviously resharing it and reading the
interview and looking at the cover.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And all the reactions was so good.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
The reactions were absolutely brilliant because people so badly wanted
it to be. It wasn't even in anyone's mind, Like
every single person who was waiting for this, No one
said John Czinte, I know.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Some of the people just showing things like stay in line,
keep voting, don't give up, stay in line, stay on
the call, stay on the call. Don't let this happen.
It's like the magazine's being printed. But the conspiracy theories
were so deep, Like I was seeing these videos go
around where they were like it was apparently a leak
from this Sexiest Man a Life photo shoot and the
person was wearing a brown jacket. Everyone's like, Glen Powell
(22:14):
has a brown jacket, and I was like, oh, long
boat to draw.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And then someone's like the weight, no, no, but the
way he reaches his.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Arm up in the photo in the blurrydest you can
see that's Glenn Powell, and I'm like, oh, we just.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Want this to be true, but it's just not.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Glen Powell was doing something else.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
So after that was released, I think people were like
kind of like that was a good year, guys.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, no one liked it, but guess what they still
looked at it.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, and then something unexpected happened, according to People, according
to me, according.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
To People, the people, not the magazine.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
People.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Last Night.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Vanity Fair released their twenty twenty five Hollywood issue literally
the day after People magazine announced the Sexiest Man and
some of the men in this issue were the men
that we were the rather seen as a sexiest man alive,
and it all just started to make sense. So you
(23:08):
said that obviously, when you give an exclusive interview, that
means you can't give it to any other publication. Yes,
So in the twenty twenty five Hollywood Issue, firstly, let
me explain what it is in case. We have talked
about a few times, but I saw this line and
it like kind of summed it up perfectly for me.
It said, it's like the yearly status update on the
whole industry, and as always is full of surprises. So
(23:31):
basically the Hollywood Issue for Vanity Fair is them getting
together not just like the biggest celebrities of that year,
but who they think is like the most trending, the
most fast forward. And it's not just actors, it's also
personalities and creators kind of the people who are shaping
the entertainment industry for the next year. Yeah, So in
this issue we have Zendaya, Glen Powell. It's like a
(23:54):
knife to the heart, Zoe Saldana, Nicole Kidman, deav fatel No,
Sidney Sweeney, Josh O'Connor, Danielle Deadweiler, Jonathan Bailey, a great one.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I mean, he's the sexiest man alive every day the
rest of the time.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Lisa Natuti Gatwa and Bill Scar's guard also quite sexy.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Oh and yeah, yeah, shooting and affairs stole all the
men from people.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
They took all the sexy.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
For them because of this like massive issue they all
have to give exclusive interviews. So all of these men
couldn't also give an exclusive interview to people exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Like, so there's so much politics and like agreements and
exclusivity that goes into booking a mag cover. And obviously
all the mags are in different you know, the different
levels of prestige. They're all looking to the same talent pool.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
They all want a Vanity Fair.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And so they were trying to book Shooty or they're
trying to book Glen Power, They're trying to book Devil
someone like that, but they can't because they're already locked
into Vanity Fair.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
And of course, oh my Goshy would have been so good.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Sexiest Man Batman is.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
So they knew what they were doing.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
They knew what they They dropped a sexy cover on
the same day as people dropped their sexiest Man Alive
cover and stole all their thunder. It just be like,
if you like really were into a guy, I wanted
to date them, and you looked on Instagram and saw
they were going on a date with your best friends.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
That's People magazine today.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Oh People. People.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Also, I did have a little look see at the
Glen Powell exclusive and it's just so good because he
discloses some of the stuff that we've been talking about
since that movie came out with Sidney Sweeney, anyone but you.
He did say that we leaned into the chemistry, we
leaned into the fun, we lean into all of it,
and the movie benefited, which is exactly what everyone was saying,
and like they're definitely together and we were saying, no,
(25:36):
they're playing a part. And he talked about how the
entire press tour for that with Sidney Sweeney felt like
a performance in itself. Yeah, they knew exactly what.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
They were doing.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
And he said it an exclusive interview for vanity fans.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
All the hot pictures, so well played, well played, Oh
my god. So it just goes to show like there's
conspiracy theories, there's cutthroat backdoor deals like Sexiest Men Alive.
It's not a it's not a fun time, it's not
for the faint of heart, and poor John Krasinski.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Like tramanity.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Guys, Hey, guys, you're looking for someone else to add
to your issue.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
We should photo shopping in.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Because last night, as we were talking about the Sexies
manle life, you were like you were looking at all
the backlash and then you look to John Kazinski and like,
this man really put his life on the line for this.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
He's like, yeah, well, I hate that's coming here, and
I think it's.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Going to be even harder for people next year because
social media is getting more and more quicker at these things,
Like memes were made within seconds of this being announced,
like what man.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Would want this?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
What man would actually want all of these children to be?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Like?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Who is this guy?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I have thought? I know, Well, anyway, just go watch
Jackson Reach.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Others say just don't watch Jeremiah Reacher's show, and yeah, sexies.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Maybe he just seems to give a derogatory into you
next time and he'll be Allah mel Gibson right back
to the notes.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
For some BTS knowledge if you're if you follow our Instagram,
which you definitely should be. At the Spill podcast, you
might be seeing some rogue esque posts and that's because
entertainment editor Tina Burke, who has been on the podcast before,
was very upset with the announcement of Sexiest Live. So
she took it upon herself to be like, if I'm
(27:19):
not going to get the sexiest man I want, I'm
just gonna post them all over the Spill Instagram.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, and she's like, do I have to She's like,
do I have to check with you first? You post
whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
You're going through something, just let it out.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
So it is so rogue.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I'm seeing it for the first time when it appears
on the Spills so I guess a bill alert but
not alarmed at house.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Give it a like, give it a follow. Tina needs this.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It's a sexy feed. The Spill Instagram has gotten very
sexy lately.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
We will be back here in your podcast feed at
three pm tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Bye bye, Nan
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