August 25, 2025 • 22 mins
Millie Bobby Brown has revealed she’s now a mum, and the internet's certainly got a lot to say about it. We’re unpacking what her adoption news says about celebrity privilege, and why this moment feels so polarising.
Plus, filming on the new Devil Wears Prada movie just got messy, with Stanley Tucci lashing out at the paparazzi in a tense moment on-set.
Plus, the K-Pop Demon Hunters fandom has reached a fever pitch. Amid a theatrical release, and karaoke chaos, we’re breaking down the hype around one of Netflix's biggest hits.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
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that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
From Mama Maya.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture figs.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm Cassanie Lukitt and I'm Laura Brodnick.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
On today's show, Milly Bobby Brown is a mom, but
some of the controversy around it on the internet is
kind of causing some issues, so we're going to get
into that. Also, Stanley Tucci has gone off at paparazzi
on the set of Devil Wears Prada, and.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
We're gonna have a little bit of a chat about
that too.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
But first, something that has been all over my mom's
group chat this last weekend is K Pop Demon Hunters.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Now, Laura, are you a K Pop Demon Hunters fan?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'm very aware of this cultural moment. I haven't personally
watched it yet, not because I'm against it, because we
did a whole thing on We Watch and Clare Murphy
convince me to watch it, but more so that I
just have so much stuff I have to watch for work, okay,
and I haven't found time for that. But I'm across
the zeitgeis.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I knew you would be across the zeit guys.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So this past weekend, Netflix did something that they don't
normally do. They did a theatrical release of K Pop
Demon Hunters in cinemas and it was across like Australia, Canada,
the US, New Zealand and UK, so a pretty limited
theatrical release. I have friends who went to this and
they say that it was absolute chaos.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
That's so interesting because usually Netflix only do a cinema
run for like a handful of movies, and it's only
because they're the ones they're putting forward for the Oscars,
and for them to be nominated for the Oscars, they
have to play in a certain number of theaters. But
I don't think they're putting this forward for Oscar nomination.
Plus it's already been out on the streaming service for ages.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, it's almost like it was like a reversing.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It used to be that a theatrical release was where
they would make their big money and then they would
move on to the streaming services. But Netflix's whole thing
has always been streaming first. This isn't something they typically do.
But after weeks of this fandom going crazier and crazier,
along with the soundtrack becoming like Billboard number one and oh.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
My god, Golden.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Can we play some Golden because it's really it gets
It's like the biggest ear worm. Come on, Laura, that
(02:52):
doesn't get you going.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I mean, like, I don't hate the song. It hasn't
become like one of my Like you know, like the
best feeling is when a new TV show, movie or
something comes out and there's a song in it and
you just play that song over and over and over repeat.
That's not for me yet, but I know it's like
climbed all the charts. It's like topping all the like
records and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, I think for me, it's how diverse the audience is.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
That's crazy. Like my two year old's watch it.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Please don't judge me, because it's probably not suitable for
a two year old, but my four year old loves it.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Probably also not suitable for her.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But basically they found out at daycare and it's older
siblings and people, and then all of a sudden, everyone's
watching it to the point where like adults are now
saying it's like bonding experiences with their children. I was
reading like a New York Times article talking about how
parents are now bonding with their children over theirs. Apparently
over the weekend. They don't have the exact numbers, but
(03:42):
it's between eighteen and twenty million US in ticket sales
over the weekend. I'm not sure what the global money
that they pulled in was, but if this is like
the amount that they can make in one weekend on
a show like this, it's just like one of those
big surprise hits. It is actually really fun. I enjoyed it,
but the feedback that I got from my mum's group
(04:04):
was it was absolute chaos in the cinema. There was
like kids screaming. Everyone was like doing the dialogue, singing
the songs, and it was kids from basically the age
of like four to like seventeen plus parents. It's amazing
how it's gotten into the zegeist. Even Annie Samberg like
mentioned to how much of a fan he is of it.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
To Big K Pop Demon Hunter's trip right now?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh for real?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Okay, what if?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
What what is?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
K Pop gets a Netflix movie?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I'm here to promote my movie, but I'm talking about this.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's an anime movie.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
About a girl trio girls singers and a K pop
group who protect the world from demons with their music. Duh.
Number one song in the country NBD okay, yeah, and
I'm all about it And I thought it would be
something I could share with my daughter who's eight, and
I tried to get her.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Listen to it and she was like, yeah, I'm good.
So so your kids aren't intul it at all, Well
not yet, not yet, Daddy's working on.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I wanted to bring it up because I feel like
I need to like double down and get you back
into it.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Well again, I'm not against it, and I love jumping
on a bandwagon. There's nothing I love when something's really popular,
becoming part of that because I know that people are
across the plot for this, but the song is really
what got people in. And songs have saved movies from
tanking before, Like I think the last example was The
Greatest Showman Like that came out, the movies did super
poor numbers, no one was into it. Then the song
started like this is Me. That song started like kind
(05:35):
of going across the charts. All of a sudden, it
jumped up the charts, and then next minuted everyone's like
going to the cinema to see it. I feel like
that's been a little bit with K Pop Demon Hunters.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, sometimes it's the soundtrack that makes the movie, but
this one is definitely one. To keep an eye on
it and watch it with your kids.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And maybe they'll get an oscar. Now they've had a
cinema run Nana. So we are still being inundated with
photos and videos from The Devil Wears prior to set,
and people have really strong feelings about it. I'm not
your feelings are, but some people think because we've seen
so many of the outfits. Now we've seen all the
guest stars. We've seen you know, everyone from like Page
just to all these like huge stars filming their little
(06:13):
pop up extra bits. We've seen Emily Blunts really red hair.
We've seen Miranda Priestley is like being on the street. Look,
it feels like there's nothing left to see, and people
feel like the movie has been completely spoiled for them
because of paparazzi culture.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I know, and then I think it's kind of really
escalated this past week and when we saw Stanley Tucci
yelling at paparazzi, which to me is like if you've
made Stanley Tucci mad. That man is a gem, Like
I could just listen to him talk all day, like
how dare you make Stanley Tucci mad?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It's interesting because I think the kind of flipping point
for this was there's been this big back and forth
of people saying that they like seeing the photos, and
I was a little on that side of the conversation
where the whole point of filming in New York and
filming out on these iconic locations is that come like
old school Sex and the City filming, like the world
gets to be part of it, We get to see
some of the outfits. There's often like fun little cat
and mouse games where they'll print out like Sex and
(07:07):
City used to do this all the time, and in
just like that, print out fakes scripts and leave them
around to throw paparazzi off film fake scenes, and a
lot of other movies who film in New York have
done that as well. So it's become this little culture
of itself of like what's really going to be in
the movie, what are they showing? What does this scene mean?
But then the actual movies or films on a sound stage,
so you still get all those surprises, So I was
kind of on that side of the fence. But this week,
(07:29):
I think what tipped a lot of people, including Stanley
Tucci and myself over the edge, is that they're filming
in New York. It's Anne Hathaway and Stanley Tucci. They
both look incredible. They've got these black outfits on and
they're doing this walk and talk scene. And the difference
here is that it's not just photos or far away shots.
The paparazzi and all these different photo takers are pushing
in so far on the sets and filming that they're
(07:51):
getting in the way of the cameras. But also you
can hear the dialogue of what they're saying. You can
hear Anne Hathaway as Andy Sacks, like getting really frustrated
at like what I think is obviously Miranda Priestley. So
it's giving away like actual moments of the plot. And
you can see Stanley Tucci, he's putting up for so
long he's walking and talking, the cameras getting so you
can see his eyes keep darting over and he keeps
(08:12):
looking at the camera like he's getting very visibly distracted
and being pulled out of his character to the point
where at one stage he turns to the paparazzi and
pretty much asks them to move away.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Hey guys, yeah, you guys, how do you take a
pictures deplete?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I know they're professionals, Stanley Tucci is a professional, but
that is incredibly distracting, and I can imagine how frustrating
it would be. There's also been this speculation that because
they're wearing all black, that it's a funeral scene. So
maybe there was like some concern that the dialogue was
going to then give away the fact that is this
(08:58):
like where Miranda Priestley dies. That's like some of them
the gossip I've been hearing.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, that it could be a plot point because the
video before that one where they're getting in really close
to Anhatho when they're about to start filming, is that
she's saying to Stanley and the people on set around her,
I think they can hear. I think they can hear.
And she's talking about all the people who are trying
to get footage, and she's flagging her concern before they
even start filming that she thinks they're going to hear
the dialogue. And it's kind of interesting because I feel like,
(09:24):
obviously paparazzi chasing celebrities in their personal life is still
a huge thing, but all those photos that used to
sell of them just like going on a coffee walk
out and about with like their partner getting groceries, those
don't sell as well anymore because you know, everyone puts
everything on Instagram now, so we don't want this level
of access to celebrities that we did before, like we
(09:45):
want them doing scandalous things and hooking up or photos
of their kids, which is really messy. But I feel
like now the new prize for paparazzi is to try
and get photos from movie and TV sets and like
have a bit of a spoiler. And so I think
they're getting more aggressive with how they get on these sets.
And Stanley Tucci's not the first celebrity that's done this recently.
Scarletjohnson's the other one. Again, usually like Skeletor Hanson has
(10:07):
been famous. She's in her forties now, she's been famous
since she about ten years old. She's had this really
intense paparazzi circus around her, like she wants her to
drive her car a few years ago into the police
station because she and Colin Jose are being followed and
she's filming on the street, and you just see that
she breaks and she turns over and she starts screaming
and saying like f you and all this sort of
stuff to this paparazzi. And then she's like, I'm working,
(10:29):
I'm working, and you're ruining it. You're just ruining it, Like,
get out of the way, you're ruining the shot. And
you can just sort of see that, like this is
the thing that's going to tip them all over the edge.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I mean, you've seen other shots of it, like when
they're up at the you know, at the Met and
they're kind of all walking up. The streets are packed
to the point where it almost looks like the actual
Met Bama.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I'm actually quite.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Surprised that the barrier wasn't further back. Yeah, I'm shocked
that they were able to get so close, because anytime
I've come across movie sets in New York, they have
closed down so far that there's no way one that
you're going to get in the back of a shot
or two you're gonna be able to hear dialogue. So
(11:09):
I'm quite surprised that the perhaps and people were able
to get that close.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, I think it's because of the scale of what
they're because they're doing such a long walk and talk,
they can block off the entire road and park and
all the back shots but not the road kind of
leading into it, which the cat and mouse game is
what was fun of it. But now that it's become
this stampede of photographers, it's not as much fun. So
I understand why like a Stanley Tucci or a Scarlet
Johns and are just losing their shit. I mean, Stanley Tucci,
he didn't yell, but the look of disappointment on his
(11:38):
face was worse than a yell. But you know who
can't get angry is Anne Hathaway. Poor Anne Hathaway is
the one who's like had the cameras in her face
the most. But if you listen turning that video and
you see it, and obviously it's a paparazzi shot, so
it's you know, it's circulating everywhere, but it's like filmed,
not from the film crew. But she walks over to
the photographers and she does her Remember like a while ago,
(12:00):
how she went super viral. She got out an event
and all these fans like hundreds of fans are waiting
for him, and they started pushing in towards the Cardinalist
photographers and she puts her hands up and she was
like calm, calmer, and she went like crazy viral for that.
And you can kind of see that she's leaning into
that again here in these videos. And I think one
of the reasons that she has to be so kind
(12:21):
of like she can't lose her shit is that The
Devil Was Pritor was one of the last few movies
where she was still seen as like the golden girl
of Hollywood and people liked her. And it wasn't that
long after that that the Hatha haters started and all
these rumors went crazy that she was difficult to work
with on set and no one liked her, and like
Jessica Chastain had to like get up on stage at
(12:42):
a press conference and say that she was great to
work with and this was so unfair. And I think
she's really aware that she can't lose her cool the
way other people can.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But do you know what's interesting, Like I saw the
video the comments on it, We're like, oh God, she's
so patronizing by doing this, So like, no matter what
she does, people are going to be upset at her.
They're like, why is she talking to the perhaps like
their children. I'm like, she's actually being very level headed.
She's just saying guys.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
She's using a mum voice a little bit, and I
respect it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Isn't that better than her going off the rails? Like,
but then people will still find something wrong with it,
like that's I guess the place that the internet is,
and it is people just for some reason. There are
some actors that just don't like her, you know, and
they once that rumor mill starts of she's difficult to
work with, she's a diva. Once that starts, it's very
(13:33):
very hard to stop that train exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So The Devil is prior to too. It's coming out
early next year, so you know, they're cutting in a
fine line between filming and being in the theaters, like
relatively soon, this time will fly. I think they've almost
done filming, so at least we'll have like a period
of time where they're not doing these exterior shots. But
I'm still so excited to see the movie. I don't
care if I've seen a few of the outfits. It's
made me more excited in a way because I haven't
(13:56):
been able to piece together exactly where the characters are
aut or what's happening, or like you see little like
why is Marnda Priestley's character holding this giant water bottle?
Like how far has she fallen? Like? I think there's
a lot of intrigues still.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, I mean I've been looking at the outfits kind
of like through my fingers because I don't want to
destroy it because the suddenly I see montage scene is
probably one of my favorite like fashion scenes in cinema.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
And really don't want to ruin it. So please stop stop.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
No, it won't be a ruined I'm sure. Well, we'll see,
we'll see when it comes out.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Nana Nana, Millie Bobby Brown and Jake bon Jovi have
welcomed a daughter via adoption, and it's kind of coused
a little bit of an uproar on the internet. They
announced in Instagram post this summer, we welcomed our sweet
baby girl through adoption. We are beyond excited to embark
on the beautiful next chapter of parenthood in both peace
(14:49):
and privacy, which I actually says a lot now. Millie
Bobby Brown is twenty one and Jake is twenty three.
If you didn't catch by his last name, he is
the son of John bon Jovie. They got married last
year in Tuscany, and obviously is fairly quick to have
a child.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
She's still very young.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So one of the things that the internet has been
saying is that, oh my god, she's way too young
to do this, Like what is going on? And it
all kind of felt like it happened very quickly. But
after doing like a little bit of digging, which is
not a lot of digging, you can see that Millie
Bobbi Brown is someone who has always been very family orientated.
Earlier this year, she was on the SmartLess podcast and
(15:32):
talked about wanting to be a mom young. She said
her mom was twenty one when she first had her child,
and her dad was actually only nineteen. So that was
kind of something her and Jake shared when they got together,
is wanting to be young parents, and they both come
from big families, big supportive families, and they really wanted
(15:54):
to have children. There's been a little bit of discourse
around the adoption, around the fact that she's so young
and he's so young, and the fact that they've been
married for such a short period of time.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
My first thoughts seeing that announcement when it's sort of
sort of making headlines on Friday, was that they obviously
put up that very short, sweet little statement that said
that ended in saying like, now there were three kind
of thing, which is really cute. My first thought was
like their hand was forced to an extent because all
these pat photos came out of her and Jake pushing
a stroller and then like the babies hid him. But
(16:29):
then there was all these speculations they had to put
a statement out, and it sort of came in waves,
like the first wave was people going, oh my god,
this is so exciting, and we love Millie Bobby Brown
because obviously people love her so much from stranger things.
But then the next wave was like, but wait a second,
she's too young to have a child and they haven't
been married that long, and how did this happen and
it's really irresponsible, which opened up this whole conversation around
(16:51):
like what the adoption laws were and how this was
able to happen.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, and I think that this is not a dig
at Millie Bobby Brown herself. I think it's more of
a wider conversation about people's frustration on the access to
adoption and sometimes to a lesser extent, to sarrogacy, where
some people are waiting for years and years and years
to be able to adopt childs and it seems like
(17:17):
merely Bobby Brown has done this really quickly, which I'm
sure that they went through all of the appropriate channels.
We don't know the details of that, but yeah, I
think that's part of what a lot of people are questioning,
is that just because they're rich, they've gotten this so quickly.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, I think that that was definitely the conversation, and
there was like a lot of misinformation. I mean, I
was reading a lot about it over the weekend as
the reaction was kind of gaining momentum, and like listening
to different people from people who had both been adopted
and who had adopted children and people who weren't able
to adopt, and there were so many different thoughts and
feelings included in there. There was a bit of a
misinformation saying that at twenty one you wouldn't be able
to adopt. What I could find from the US laws
(17:56):
was that you can from over eighteen, but you do
have to be at least ten years older than the
child you're adopting, which obviously here is fine. It was
more so that just in any other factor, people were
saying that being twenty one, being married sort of just
over a year would work against you in the adoption system,
which is very competitive and very difficult. There was allegations
they had gone private adoption and the reason they were
(18:17):
able to do that is through having an immense amount
of money, which means they could kind of almost pay
to have this child. Was kind of the backlash that
people were talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Lily Collins faced sort of a similar backlash when she
announced her child via surrogacy, and it was that same
kind of buying a baby thing. Now after doing diary
of a birth, surrogacy laws in Australia it's all altruistic,
which means that you cannot pay to have a surrogate
here in Australia. In America it has become a little
(18:48):
bit more of a business, and I think that's where
people kind of start to tie this in and make
those criticisms. And again I am not making those criticisms
against Lily or against Mille Bobby Brown, but that's I
think where that upset comes from. It's like that access
that celebrity people have, two things that some people are
(19:09):
waiting decades for. I think is where some of that
frustration lies.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, and also this is a new thing. This is
a conversation that's been going on for decades. It's just
like the conversation around celebrity motherhood has sort of like
ebbed and flowed over the years. Because one of the
reasons why there was a big backlash against Lily Collins
was that there was this assumption, even though neither she
nor anyone else from her family said anything like this,
there was this assumption that she had had a baby
(19:37):
via surrogacy because she didn't want to take time off
filming like for Emily and Paris or her schedule or
anything like that, which obviously we don't know. But this
idea that you can kind of just buy a baby
is this kind of ugly term that's been thrown around,
and it's been thrown at celebrities obviously because they're in
the public eye and they have the money. And that
was sort of the thing with Millie, Bobby Brown and
(19:57):
Jake bon Jovi, is this allegation that they had kind
of jumped the queue because it's so hard for most
people to adopt. I mean, particularly in Australia, but like
where adoption rates are really falling because it's becoming harder
to access. But also in the US, this idea that
they were like playing house because they were kids and
had jumped the queue. But it kind of made me
feel of that conversation that we were having over twenty
(20:18):
years ago when like Madonna and Angelina, Jolly and all
these celebrities, like there was this huge surge and like
celebrities adopting children from overseas, and it was seen as
kind of like a trend of adopting designer babies, and
that upset a lot of people as well because it
was something that wasn't accessible to them unless they had
money for like lawyers and travel and to show that
they had like this home that they would be chosen
(20:40):
from a list. And so it feels like we're having
that conversation now, just in a different way as the
conversation itself changes.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I think at the end of the day as well.
I mean, she has expressed a want to be a
mother and to be a young mother, and I understand
that desire to be a mother from a very young age.
She was talking about how you know, she was always
playing with dolls, like being a mother felt like her calling.
And honestly, that is how I always felt when I
was younger, like I wanted to be a young mom too.
(21:09):
I wanted to Like that was always something that really
called to me. Because so I can understand that. Let's
not forget she's been acting since she was like eleven
twelve years old. She's been on strangers and thinks. She's
had a very full life, and she's come with a
lot of criticism against her as she's become a woman.
And this happens with child stars a lot, as soon
(21:32):
as they go through from their child star days to
becoming adults and becoming more comfortable with their bodies, whether
that's in a more sexual way or showing off like
Milly Bobby Brown has faced all this backlash about, you know,
showing too much skin, she too sexy, like what is
she doing she looks so it's almost like she can't
win either way. You know, she's a child star, she's
(21:55):
gone through this, she's had a very full life, very
successful career. She's found someone she's loved, she's adopted a child.
But I also do understand some of the criticisms from
the other side. Well, thank you so much for listening
to this Spill today, Hey guys, and don't forget to
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Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture figs.
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I'm Cassanie Lukitt and I'm Laura Brodnick.
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On today's show, Milly Bobby Brown is a mom, but
some of the controversy around it on the internet is
kind of causing some issues, so we're going to get
into that. Also, Stanley Tucci has gone off at paparazzi
on the set of Devil Wears Prada, and.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
We're gonna have a little bit of a chat about
that too.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
But first, something that has been all over my mom's
group chat this last weekend is K Pop Demon Hunters.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Now, Laura, are you a K Pop Demon Hunters fan?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'm very aware of this cultural moment. I haven't personally
watched it yet, not because I'm against it, because we
did a whole thing on We Watch and Clare Murphy
convince me to watch it, but more so that I
just have so much stuff I have to watch for work, okay,
and I haven't found time for that. But I'm across
the zeitgeis.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I knew you would be across the zeit guys.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So this past weekend, Netflix did something that they don't
normally do. They did a theatrical release of K Pop
Demon Hunters in cinemas and it was across like Australia, Canada,
the US, New Zealand and UK, so a pretty limited
theatrical release. I have friends who went to this and
they say that it was absolute chaos.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
That's so interesting because usually Netflix only do a cinema
run for like a handful of movies, and it's only
because they're the ones they're putting forward for the Oscars,
and for them to be nominated for the Oscars, they
have to play in a certain number of theaters. But
I don't think they're putting this forward for Oscar nomination.
Plus it's already been out on the streaming service for ages.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, it's almost like it was like a reversing.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It used to be that a theatrical release was where
they would make their big money and then they would
move on to the streaming services. But Netflix's whole thing
has always been streaming first. This isn't something they typically do.
But after weeks of this fandom going crazier and crazier,
along with the soundtrack becoming like Billboard number one and oh.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
My god, Golden.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Can we play some Golden because it's really it gets
It's like the biggest ear worm. Come on, Laura, that
(02:52):
doesn't get you going.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I mean, like, I don't hate the song. It hasn't
become like one of my Like you know, like the
best feeling is when a new TV show, movie or
something comes out and there's a song in it and
you just play that song over and over and over repeat.
That's not for me yet, but I know it's like
climbed all the charts. It's like topping all the like
records and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, I think for me, it's how diverse the audience is.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
That's crazy. Like my two year old's watch it.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Please don't judge me, because it's probably not suitable for
a two year old, but my four year old loves it.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Probably also not suitable for her.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But basically they found out at daycare and it's older
siblings and people, and then all of a sudden, everyone's
watching it to the point where like adults are now
saying it's like bonding experiences with their children. I was
reading like a New York Times article talking about how
parents are now bonding with their children over theirs. Apparently
over the weekend. They don't have the exact numbers, but
(03:42):
it's between eighteen and twenty million US in ticket sales
over the weekend. I'm not sure what the global money
that they pulled in was, but if this is like
the amount that they can make in one weekend on
a show like this, it's just like one of those
big surprise hits. It is actually really fun. I enjoyed it,
but the feedback that I got from my mum's group
(04:04):
was it was absolute chaos in the cinema. There was
like kids screaming. Everyone was like doing the dialogue, singing
the songs, and it was kids from basically the age
of like four to like seventeen plus parents. It's amazing
how it's gotten into the zegeist. Even Annie Samberg like
mentioned to how much of a fan he is of it.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
To Big K Pop Demon Hunter's trip right now?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh for real?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Okay, what if?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
What what is?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
K Pop gets a Netflix movie?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I'm here to promote my movie, but I'm talking about this.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's an anime movie.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
About a girl trio girls singers and a K pop
group who protect the world from demons with their music. Duh.
Number one song in the country NBD okay, yeah, and
I'm all about it And I thought it would be
something I could share with my daughter who's eight, and
I tried to get her.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Listen to it and she was like, yeah, I'm good.
So so your kids aren't intul it at all, Well
not yet, not yet, Daddy's working on.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I wanted to bring it up because I feel like
I need to like double down and get you back
into it.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Well again, I'm not against it, and I love jumping
on a bandwagon. There's nothing I love when something's really popular,
becoming part of that because I know that people are
across the plot for this, but the song is really
what got people in. And songs have saved movies from
tanking before, Like I think the last example was The
Greatest Showman Like that came out, the movies did super
poor numbers, no one was into it. Then the song
started like this is Me. That song started like kind
(05:35):
of going across the charts. All of a sudden, it
jumped up the charts, and then next minuted everyone's like
going to the cinema to see it. I feel like
that's been a little bit with K Pop Demon Hunters.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, sometimes it's the soundtrack that makes the movie, but
this one is definitely one. To keep an eye on
it and watch it with your kids.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And maybe they'll get an oscar. Now they've had a
cinema run Nana. So we are still being inundated with
photos and videos from The Devil Wears prior to set,
and people have really strong feelings about it. I'm not
your feelings are, but some people think because we've seen
so many of the outfits. Now we've seen all the
guest stars. We've seen you know, everyone from like Page
just to all these like huge stars filming their little
(06:13):
pop up extra bits. We've seen Emily Blunts really red hair.
We've seen Miranda Priestley is like being on the street. Look,
it feels like there's nothing left to see, and people
feel like the movie has been completely spoiled for them
because of paparazzi culture.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I know, and then I think it's kind of really
escalated this past week and when we saw Stanley Tucci
yelling at paparazzi, which to me is like if you've
made Stanley Tucci mad. That man is a gem, Like
I could just listen to him talk all day, like
how dare you make Stanley Tucci mad?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It's interesting because I think the kind of flipping point
for this was there's been this big back and forth
of people saying that they like seeing the photos, and
I was a little on that side of the conversation
where the whole point of filming in New York and
filming out on these iconic locations is that come like
old school Sex and the City filming, like the world
gets to be part of it, We get to see
some of the outfits. There's often like fun little cat
and mouse games where they'll print out like Sex and
(07:07):
City used to do this all the time, and in
just like that, print out fakes scripts and leave them
around to throw paparazzi off film fake scenes, and a
lot of other movies who film in New York have
done that as well. So it's become this little culture
of itself of like what's really going to be in
the movie, what are they showing? What does this scene mean?
But then the actual movies or films on a sound stage,
so you still get all those surprises, So I was
kind of on that side of the fence. But this week,
(07:29):
I think what tipped a lot of people, including Stanley
Tucci and myself over the edge, is that they're filming
in New York. It's Anne Hathaway and Stanley Tucci. They
both look incredible. They've got these black outfits on and
they're doing this walk and talk scene. And the difference
here is that it's not just photos or far away shots.
The paparazzi and all these different photo takers are pushing
in so far on the sets and filming that they're
(07:51):
getting in the way of the cameras. But also you
can hear the dialogue of what they're saying. You can
hear Anne Hathaway as Andy Sacks, like getting really frustrated
at like what I think is obviously Miranda Priestley. So
it's giving away like actual moments of the plot. And
you can see Stanley Tucci, he's putting up for so
long he's walking and talking, the cameras getting so you
can see his eyes keep darting over and he keeps
(08:12):
looking at the camera like he's getting very visibly distracted
and being pulled out of his character to the point
where at one stage he turns to the paparazzi and
pretty much asks them to move away.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Hey guys, yeah, you guys, how do you take a
pictures deplete?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I know they're professionals, Stanley Tucci is a professional, but
that is incredibly distracting, and I can imagine how frustrating
it would be. There's also been this speculation that because
they're wearing all black, that it's a funeral scene. So
maybe there was like some concern that the dialogue was
going to then give away the fact that is this
(08:58):
like where Miranda Priestley dies. That's like some of them
the gossip I've been hearing.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, that it could be a plot point because the
video before that one where they're getting in really close
to Anhatho when they're about to start filming, is that
she's saying to Stanley and the people on set around her,
I think they can hear. I think they can hear.
And she's talking about all the people who are trying
to get footage, and she's flagging her concern before they
even start filming that she thinks they're going to hear
the dialogue. And it's kind of interesting because I feel like,
(09:24):
obviously paparazzi chasing celebrities in their personal life is still
a huge thing, but all those photos that used to
sell of them just like going on a coffee walk
out and about with like their partner getting groceries, those
don't sell as well anymore because you know, everyone puts
everything on Instagram now, so we don't want this level
of access to celebrities that we did before, like we
(09:45):
want them doing scandalous things and hooking up or photos
of their kids, which is really messy. But I feel
like now the new prize for paparazzi is to try
and get photos from movie and TV sets and like
have a bit of a spoiler. And so I think
they're getting more aggressive with how they get on these sets.
And Stanley Tucci's not the first celebrity that's done this recently.
Scarletjohnson's the other one. Again, usually like Skeletor Hanson has
(10:07):
been famous. She's in her forties now, she's been famous
since she about ten years old. She's had this really
intense paparazzi circus around her, like she wants her to
drive her car a few years ago into the police
station because she and Colin Jose are being followed and
she's filming on the street, and you just see that
she breaks and she turns over and she starts screaming
and saying like f you and all this sort of
stuff to this paparazzi. And then she's like, I'm working,
(10:29):
I'm working, and you're ruining it. You're just ruining it, Like,
get out of the way, you're ruining the shot. And
you can just sort of see that, like this is
the thing that's going to tip them all over the edge.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I mean, you've seen other shots of it, like when
they're up at the you know, at the Met and
they're kind of all walking up. The streets are packed
to the point where it almost looks like the actual
Met Bama.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I'm actually quite.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Surprised that the barrier wasn't further back. Yeah, I'm shocked
that they were able to get so close, because anytime
I've come across movie sets in New York, they have
closed down so far that there's no way one that
you're going to get in the back of a shot
or two you're gonna be able to hear dialogue. So
(11:09):
I'm quite surprised that the perhaps and people were able
to get that close.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, I think it's because of the scale of what
they're because they're doing such a long walk and talk,
they can block off the entire road and park and
all the back shots but not the road kind of
leading into it, which the cat and mouse game is
what was fun of it. But now that it's become
this stampede of photographers, it's not as much fun. So
I understand why like a Stanley Tucci or a Scarlet
Johns and are just losing their shit. I mean, Stanley Tucci,
he didn't yell, but the look of disappointment on his
(11:38):
face was worse than a yell. But you know who
can't get angry is Anne Hathaway. Poor Anne Hathaway is
the one who's like had the cameras in her face
the most. But if you listen turning that video and
you see it, and obviously it's a paparazzi shot, so
it's you know, it's circulating everywhere, but it's like filmed,
not from the film crew. But she walks over to
the photographers and she does her Remember like a while ago,
(12:00):
how she went super viral. She got out an event
and all these fans like hundreds of fans are waiting
for him, and they started pushing in towards the Cardinalist
photographers and she puts her hands up and she was
like calm, calmer, and she went like crazy viral for that.
And you can kind of see that she's leaning into
that again here in these videos. And I think one
of the reasons that she has to be so kind
(12:21):
of like she can't lose her shit is that The
Devil Was Pritor was one of the last few movies
where she was still seen as like the golden girl
of Hollywood and people liked her. And it wasn't that
long after that that the Hatha haters started and all
these rumors went crazy that she was difficult to work
with on set and no one liked her, and like
Jessica Chastain had to like get up on stage at
(12:42):
a press conference and say that she was great to
work with and this was so unfair. And I think
she's really aware that she can't lose her cool the
way other people can.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But do you know what's interesting, Like I saw the
video the comments on it, We're like, oh God, she's
so patronizing by doing this, So like, no matter what
she does, people are going to be upset at her.
They're like, why is she talking to the perhaps like
their children. I'm like, she's actually being very level headed.
She's just saying guys.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
She's using a mum voice a little bit, and I
respect it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Isn't that better than her going off the rails? Like,
but then people will still find something wrong with it,
like that's I guess the place that the internet is,
and it is people just for some reason. There are
some actors that just don't like her, you know, and
they once that rumor mill starts of she's difficult to
work with, she's a diva. Once that starts, it's very
(13:33):
very hard to stop that train exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So The Devil is prior to too. It's coming out
early next year, so you know, they're cutting in a
fine line between filming and being in the theaters, like
relatively soon, this time will fly. I think they've almost
done filming, so at least we'll have like a period
of time where they're not doing these exterior shots. But
I'm still so excited to see the movie. I don't
care if I've seen a few of the outfits. It's
made me more excited in a way because I haven't
(13:56):
been able to piece together exactly where the characters are
aut or what's happening, or like you see little like
why is Marnda Priestley's character holding this giant water bottle?
Like how far has she fallen? Like? I think there's
a lot of intrigues still.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, I mean I've been looking at the outfits kind
of like through my fingers because I don't want to
destroy it because the suddenly I see montage scene is
probably one of my favorite like fashion scenes in cinema.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
And really don't want to ruin it. So please stop stop.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
No, it won't be a ruined I'm sure. Well, we'll see,
we'll see when it comes out.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Nana Nana, Millie Bobby Brown and Jake bon Jovi have
welcomed a daughter via adoption, and it's kind of coused
a little bit of an uproar on the internet. They
announced in Instagram post this summer, we welcomed our sweet
baby girl through adoption. We are beyond excited to embark
on the beautiful next chapter of parenthood in both peace
(14:49):
and privacy, which I actually says a lot now. Millie
Bobby Brown is twenty one and Jake is twenty three.
If you didn't catch by his last name, he is
the son of John bon Jovie. They got married last
year in Tuscany, and obviously is fairly quick to have
a child.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
She's still very young.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So one of the things that the internet has been
saying is that, oh my god, she's way too young
to do this, Like what is going on? And it
all kind of felt like it happened very quickly. But
after doing like a little bit of digging, which is
not a lot of digging, you can see that Millie
Bobbi Brown is someone who has always been very family orientated.
Earlier this year, she was on the SmartLess podcast and
(15:32):
talked about wanting to be a mom young. She said
her mom was twenty one when she first had her child,
and her dad was actually only nineteen. So that was
kind of something her and Jake shared when they got together,
is wanting to be young parents, and they both come
from big families, big supportive families, and they really wanted
(15:54):
to have children. There's been a little bit of discourse
around the adoption, around the fact that she's so young
and he's so young, and the fact that they've been
married for such a short period of time.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
My first thoughts seeing that announcement when it's sort of
sort of making headlines on Friday, was that they obviously
put up that very short, sweet little statement that said
that ended in saying like, now there were three kind
of thing, which is really cute. My first thought was
like their hand was forced to an extent because all
these pat photos came out of her and Jake pushing
a stroller and then like the babies hid him. But
(16:29):
then there was all these speculations they had to put
a statement out, and it sort of came in waves,
like the first wave was people going, oh my god,
this is so exciting, and we love Millie Bobby Brown
because obviously people love her so much from stranger things.
But then the next wave was like, but wait a second,
she's too young to have a child and they haven't
been married that long, and how did this happen and
it's really irresponsible, which opened up this whole conversation around
(16:51):
like what the adoption laws were and how this was
able to happen.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, and I think that this is not a dig
at Millie Bobby Brown herself. I think it's more of
a wider conversation about people's frustration on the access to
adoption and sometimes to a lesser extent, to sarrogacy, where
some people are waiting for years and years and years
to be able to adopt childs and it seems like
(17:17):
merely Bobby Brown has done this really quickly, which I'm
sure that they went through all of the appropriate channels.
We don't know the details of that, but yeah, I
think that's part of what a lot of people are questioning,
is that just because they're rich, they've gotten this so quickly.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, I think that that was definitely the conversation, and
there was like a lot of misinformation. I mean, I
was reading a lot about it over the weekend as
the reaction was kind of gaining momentum, and like listening
to different people from people who had both been adopted
and who had adopted children and people who weren't able
to adopt, and there were so many different thoughts and
feelings included in there. There was a bit of a
misinformation saying that at twenty one you wouldn't be able
to adopt. What I could find from the US laws
(17:56):
was that you can from over eighteen, but you do
have to be at least ten years older than the
child you're adopting, which obviously here is fine. It was
more so that just in any other factor, people were
saying that being twenty one, being married sort of just
over a year would work against you in the adoption system,
which is very competitive and very difficult. There was allegations
they had gone private adoption and the reason they were
(18:17):
able to do that is through having an immense amount
of money, which means they could kind of almost pay
to have this child. Was kind of the backlash that
people were talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Lily Collins faced sort of a similar backlash when she
announced her child via surrogacy, and it was that same
kind of buying a baby thing. Now after doing diary
of a birth, surrogacy laws in Australia it's all altruistic,
which means that you cannot pay to have a surrogate
here in Australia. In America it has become a little
(18:48):
bit more of a business, and I think that's where
people kind of start to tie this in and make
those criticisms. And again I am not making those criticisms
against Lily or against Mille Bobby Brown, but that's I
think where that upset comes from. It's like that access
that celebrity people have, two things that some people are
(19:09):
waiting decades for. I think is where some of that
frustration lies.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, and also this is a new thing. This is
a conversation that's been going on for decades. It's just
like the conversation around celebrity motherhood has sort of like
ebbed and flowed over the years. Because one of the
reasons why there was a big backlash against Lily Collins
was that there was this assumption, even though neither she
nor anyone else from her family said anything like this,
there was this assumption that she had had a baby
(19:37):
via surrogacy because she didn't want to take time off
filming like for Emily and Paris or her schedule or
anything like that, which obviously we don't know. But this
idea that you can kind of just buy a baby
is this kind of ugly term that's been thrown around,
and it's been thrown at celebrities obviously because they're in
the public eye and they have the money. And that
was sort of the thing with Millie, Bobby Brown and
(19:57):
Jake bon Jovi, is this allegation that they had kind
of jumped the queue because it's so hard for most
people to adopt. I mean, particularly in Australia, but like
where adoption rates are really falling because it's becoming harder
to access. But also in the US, this idea that
they were like playing house because they were kids and
had jumped the queue. But it kind of made me
feel of that conversation that we were having over twenty
(20:18):
years ago when like Madonna and Angelina, Jolly and all
these celebrities, like there was this huge surge and like
celebrities adopting children from overseas, and it was seen as
kind of like a trend of adopting designer babies, and
that upset a lot of people as well because it
was something that wasn't accessible to them unless they had
money for like lawyers and travel and to show that
they had like this home that they would be chosen
(20:40):
from a list. And so it feels like we're having
that conversation now, just in a different way as the
conversation itself changes.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I think at the end of the day as well.
I mean, she has expressed a want to be a
mother and to be a young mother, and I understand
that desire to be a mother from a very young age.
She was talking about how you know, she was always
playing with dolls, like being a mother felt like her calling.
And honestly, that is how I always felt when I
was younger, like I wanted to be a young mom too.
(21:09):
I wanted to Like that was always something that really
called to me. Because so I can understand that. Let's
not forget she's been acting since she was like eleven
twelve years old. She's been on strangers and thinks. She's
had a very full life, and she's come with a
lot of criticism against her as she's become a woman.
And this happens with child stars a lot, as soon
(21:32):
as they go through from their child star days to
becoming adults and becoming more comfortable with their bodies, whether
that's in a more sexual way or showing off like
Milly Bobby Brown has faced all this backlash about, you know,
showing too much skin, she too sexy, like what is
she doing she looks so it's almost like she can't
win either way. You know, she's a child star, she's
(21:55):
gone through this, she's had a very full life, very
successful career. She's found someone she's loved, she's adopted a child.
But I also do understand some of the criticisms from
the other side. Well, thank you so much for listening
to this Spill today, Hey guys, and don't forget to
follow us on TikTok and Instagram. We post lots of
fun stuff there to keep.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
You up to date.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
The Spill is produced by Manisha is Warren with sound
production by Scott Stronik. We're back here in your podcast
feed for all the celebrity headlines at eight am tomorrow
with Morning Tea, and back with another episode of the
Spill at three pm.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
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