October 2, 2025 • 39 mins
Amy Poehler and Regina Hall recorded a podcast together and revealed a surprising fact about Hollywood men and friendship.
And Robert Irwin has become a bit of a viral sensation thanks to a particularly thirsty moment on Dancing With The Stars, so now we need to recap every intense moment from his performance, before we get into his wildest dating story.
Plus, Nicole Kidman has officially filed for divorce from Keith Urban ,and all of her divorce documents have been made public. Now we need to unpack the most shocking details that we uncovered from them.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this
podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill,
your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
M Burnham and coming up on.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
The show today, Nicole Kidman has officially filed for divorce
from Keith Urban, and the entire legal document for their divorce, unfortunately,
has been made public. I have combed through it, and
we're going to talk about the most shocking reveals, but
also paint more of a picture where Nicole's at, Like
obviously we're well, we're team both of them, but you know,
we're going to get to the truth of that. Plus
(00:54):
an equally important story, Robert Irwin is staging a very
sexy takeover of America right now. He's in the trenches,
he's doing the work, and he's going to recap that.
If you have any smaller she just going to recap
Robert Irwin's sexiness. If you have any small children around animal,
anyone who's a bit fragile, maybe just get them out
of the room for that bit and protect them.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
But first, but first, I was scrolling on my TikTok
feed and I came across this clip from Amy Poehler's
podcast Good Hang. I didn't realize how big of a
fan I was of this podcast until, like, really good.
It's like an integral part to my Saturday morning. It's
a one podcast I listened to when I wake up
and do all my morning stuff on a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I saw guy that I have all my favorite pods,
and it's so hard to find pods that you'd love
and that you want to listen to. I'm like, my
ears are a sacred space. I don't like it just
anyone in there. And I have my five pods that
I listen to every week, and I have a specific time,
like this one is for my Saturday morning walk and
getting a coffee. This one is for like a Sunday
night when I'm having a wine on my balcony. This
one's for like when I go and do an exercise
(01:57):
like a long walk or something.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Oh my god, we should release our listening habits.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh no, it's also so personal.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I know, but I think people would want to know. Okay,
I want to I mean, I know yours, Yeah, I do, Okay,
we've had it after a few ones.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, I know, we always do. I know. I wish
I was more mysterious, but I'm just an open book. Okay.
So you spend Saturday morning with Amy Poler, I do.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And it's like one of those podcasts. So she's an
interviewer and she interviews a lot of people that she's
also friends with.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
So it's a lot of people in her life. And
it's one of those podcasts where I feel like with
interviewing podcasts, you pick and choose which episode you want
to listen to. And she's such a good interviewer and
she's so like warm and welcoming that no matter who
she's interviewing, I just listen, even if I don't know
them or Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And she's one of the few big, huge celebrities, movie stars,
all that sort of stuff who I think should be
doing a podcast because now that every single movie star
who used to have the most enviled job in the world,
like it was so hard to be a full time
actor and be in these movies, and the fact that
they're all kind of pushing that aside now to do
a podcast, which is our daily job.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Get out, Get out, we're here. You have the right thing.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We have the voice of podcasting.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
We didn't have a choice. We had to go here.
We had no other skills. You guys.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, they're like camera No, these girls below belong and
audio only.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But I can kind of see Amy Polar because she
and she says she loves to good to hang, she
loves the chat. Yeah, so it kind of feels like
the right space for her.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yes, And because I am so involved in watching those
and I watch it on my TV as well, do
you Yeah, it's like a cinematic experience for me. Okay,
because I watched it on my TV, I get fed
a lot of the socials as well. And as pre
promo for her episode with Regina Hall, who is one
of my favorite comedic actresses of all time, I saw
(03:41):
this little clip and I want to play it for you.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
They say, like eighty six percent of the most successful
men are married.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
That's got. I mean, that's got.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I mean, you know, they need that grounding, they need
that home base. And women don't, no, no, because they
find it in friendships. There was a SETI if you
ask men who their best friend is, most of them
say their wives, right, And if you ask a woman,
she's really got her friends like.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Love that.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
She's like, you ask a woman, She's like, I have
real friends, Like I have a lot of friends.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, one of them the correct answer.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Also that like gap you like here between Regina Hall
saying that's stat and then it's like silence. It's if
you watch the interview, it's Amy Politch is looking at
down the barrel of the camera as like obviously, but
it's like, I love this clip so much, And it
was one of those clips I came with my TikTok
fig that I just watched on repeat because I was
so bloody funny, but also because it's one of those
(04:42):
celebrity moments that's so realistic to the everyday person. And
in my head, I always forget that celebrities are also
part of these big stats that we see, yes, because
it feels that they're so so separate, and also through
that lens of Hollywood, I always assumed it was the opposite.
Oh really yeah, And I think this comes off the
(05:05):
back of watching like big celebrity male stars in Hollywood
and how they're always perpetually single. Like in my head,
I'm like brad Pitt, Like how everyone said that after
the divorce, Angelina got the kids and he got Hollywood
Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, like Bradley Cooper, like all of
these like men, Leona DiCaprio, Yeah, who ultimate single? Yeah,
(05:27):
And I'm like we see them dating, yeah, women after age,
but we see them in relationships and stuff, but they're
always perpetually single in our heads.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Even Leonardo DiCaprio now has been in a relationship with
Victorius already for quite a few years, and she's over
twenty five. She's like holding her friend every year. Yeah,
she turned twenty five a little while ago, she's holding.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Did he get with her when she was twenty five?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
No? No, no, oh god, no no no. Everyone just thought,
because he usually breaks up with women when they turn
twenty five, that on her twenty fifth birthday she'd be seen,
like look at your suitcase away from the super yacht
they've been sharing.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'm like, she's still there. Yeah, I'm way too old
for him.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Maybe he's like waiting till twenty Now that he's fifty,
he's like, I'll go twenty six, like on any change
of the eighties, he's like time to grow up, he
goes to twenty six, twenty six to twenty seven. Yeah,
he's like, wow, the personal growth is off.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Just when I watched this clip, I was like, oh,
I could just immediately think of all of these celebrity
men who are like gradually single. And I think it's
also because as those men are getting older, and we
know that Hollywood favors older men, that they are so
reliant on those parasocial relationships that they have with their audience.
And there is something about feeling more okay watching and
(06:38):
kind of I guess quote unquote thirsting after man when
you know he's single. Yeah, and yet all my favorite
actors in Hollywood are women, and it's regardless of her
relationship status.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, it doesn't make us like or dislike a woman anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah no, And I just found that so interesting. But
what do you think of that stat because I'm really
interested to know, Like, I know you watch Good Hang
and you're a fan of Regina Wore, But when celebrities
are talking about like these kind of like lifestylely moments,
do you feel like that they have access to be
able to talk about those things?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And when you say access, do you mean do they
have lived experience, like are they allowed, Well, I mean obviously,
it's like anything a celebrity talks about is like everyone's
looking for like vulnerability and honestly because you want to
relate to us. And when I said, like we don't
like women more or less when they're single. Sometimes if
they are like really long term single, I do find
a little bit of comfort in that because I'm like,
(07:30):
this is the most beautiful in the world. She's so successful,
everyone loves her. She's still single. You and I have
talked about this before when I have had many drunken
airport chats. It's like it makes you feel a little
bit better when you've got like other people who are
in the same situation. But at the same time, everything's
like a little bit tinged with like if you wanted to,
you kind of could, like you've got access to so
many people.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
On the level of success, right, Like I always think
about that with Mindy Kayaling yea, like always single and
yet she still was able to have kids. Yeah, but
also it's through the lens of like she's single, but
it almost feels like society allows her to be single
because she's so so successful.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
This is what I always find myself as a single
woman is like, you've got to have these extra achievements
to kind of blur the singleness away. So you've always
got to have these big career highlights to.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Share the best at you. You have to be like
the funniest person in your family.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Always have to be off having this big adventure. Yeah,
you have to be the funniest, the most dynamic. You
have to have like a beautiful home. You have to
be successful at work and always kind of living this big,
adventurous life. And sometimes I'm just tired.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
But mindy, kaytimes I just want to be bad at
my job.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Sometimes I want to be single and also a failure
at the rest of my life. Just let a girl live.
Maybe I'm just gonna underachieve across the board and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
What if we just like start being really bad.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, let's do it right now while.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Produced we're going to be really bad at the were
just both came up on our careers. If you guys
want to help us, stop listening.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, don't watch us on YouTube, don't live review on
Apple or Spotify, don't follow us on social follow I
just want to be mediocre. Oh no, that's the thing. Like,
there's not a lot of pity for someone like a
Mindy Kaling or even like recently like Shelley's The Road
or anyone like that, because they have these big, beautiful homes. Yes,
they were able to have kids as single women because
they have the funds, which is what stops a lot
(09:20):
of It's not a man that stops a lot of
women not having children, it's the finance of it. Yeah,
and the money. So when you have all that, and.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I feel like we don't see it, But I wonder
if like in they're inner circles, like amongst Mindy Kaling's friends,
we're also on her same level of success who also
have like families and are like dating and are having
boyfriends and they're like getting married and getting divorced and
they're married again.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
If they see that, yeah, maybe it's interesting too because
Amy Pole has been single for a really long time
as well, and she's had people come on the show
and try and set her up with billionaires.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
That is my favorite episode.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
She's like, I don't want that. I don't want a
man around me, And I was like, they're all fair
because again, one of the most loved women in the world,
and she was just like, I don't need that. It's
kind of interesting. I do think we're.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Collecting these when when we first got Emma Watson and
now we have Amy.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Poehler, yeah, single girls a single, the famous beautiful rich
single girls club and wearing it as well. Yeah, I mean, well,
now we've gone from our jobs, we're not going to
be in it. Yeah, but yeah, that's an interesting thing
of looking through that comment through the lens of Hollywood,
because you have these kind of yeah, really famous men
who are very like famously single, and even Leonardo DiCaprio,
who's been in a relationship for years, we still think
(10:30):
of him as a single man, just because that's the
way he presents. But then you also have these really
famous actors who have made their wives their entire personality.
George Clooney, Oh yeah, Robert Downey Jr. Credits his entire
success to his wife Susan, which is kind of a
fair thing. Well, like you have yeah, like he's like,
you know, they're all.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Both his wife and Jalo.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, David's not married to Jlo No, but he had
to comfort her. Oh that's so true, right, I was like, wait,
is that Gossom ben epic?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Like running around with these women and the mad dame
and going man, he's having to I have to look
after her.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Uncomfort all the ex girlfriends and.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
All the ex girl friends coming up to my going man.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think we do see this thing of
really famous men, even like Chris Hemsworth. There's so many
who were just like, they're like these really famous wife
guys like my wife, my wife, my wife, because it
kind of deflects from all the things, and it also.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And it also gives them the concept like, look, I'm a.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Good guy because I'm married. It like inserts a personality
for them they might not have had before.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And you know what, it's working.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
That's fine. They're the kind of men that say that's
my best friend, and they're watch like you're not my friend.
It's like, ilk, you just know. Elsa Bataki's like, I
have a best friend. It's not you. Chris Emsworth.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Okay, in case you missed it, Robert Irwin, I did
not miss it. I'll tell you that he's still on
Dancing with the Stars. Look, this is the first time
in Dancing with the Star's history that I've seen so
much of this show. Oh you're invested now Without my consent,
like it's just all over my face.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, last thing, like Dancing the Stars has been going
for so long, well before like any of these social
platforms or a thing. But their team has adapted so
well to social that they just make every season go
viral in a way that other reality shows haven't been
able to achieve.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's so wild because there are a lot of contestants.
I'm Dancing with the Stars, but in my head there's
only two. Oh, who's the other one, Robin Irwin and
Dylan Efron.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh, of course you're gonna say, Alex Earl. I thought
she'd be in your wheelhouse. Oh she in Yeah, Oh
my god, you say you're such a fake fan. And
your save girl, Ilaria Baldwin. Oh, dancing her Spanish dancers.
Laria's like salsa.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I've got this.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
She's like I grew up dancing Spain in Massachusetts where
I lived, when I never lived in Spain anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The only people I've seen Robert Irwin and Dylan Efron.
I think Robert Irwin was the fan favorite from the
first episode because that was like the very first episode
is where you see like how committed each celebrity is
to the actual program right, and he was very committed,
as committed as he is as I'm gonna say animals.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, it's like dancing animals, nothing else, and nothing else,
that's all he has.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So this second routine that's been going absolutely viral, it's
because it's so sexy. Have you watched it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I felt dirty watching it. I felt like it's not
something I should be watching with my eyes, even though
it was on public broadcast television. And that moment with
a light score up and the camera's on his face
and he's looking with such intense moldering. He's smoldering into
the camera with the intensity that like an old school
movie star could never achieve. I like melted to the floor.
(13:41):
Not in a sexy way. I'm just like I don't
know what to look. I don't do my hand.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It did what I did when I watched Magic Mike.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, yeah, I did when we watched Magic Mike, EM
and I at the cinema. She like just fell onto
the floor in a puddle. That was me in my
apartment watching Robert Erwin dancing.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Okay, Spiller's if you haven't watched a video, don't, because
I'm about to recap it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, this is also put in our socials later, but this.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Is exactly we won't need to Okay, this is exactly
what happened.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So it starts off where they're on this platform and
she's perched on his shoulder like a sexy parrot.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And that's when we get the zoom in on his
face and he's smoldering, and it's quite a long smolder.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's so long.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I didn't think he expected the camera to be there
for that.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Lost in his head like one, two three, it's not movie.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Okay. Then she's off the shoulder, he jumps off the platform,
she takes the stairs quite safe, safety first. Then now
on the DF and now on the dance floor, okay,
and they start doing what I'm assuming is the salsa.
I should also point out that her name is Whitney
Caulson and she's a professional dancer.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, of course she's a professional dancer of the dance.
How did you not was the salsa? Do you know
you just guessed that's the one dance movie? You know?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I researched because I actually a question. No, I know
what salsa looks like. I don't think what I witnessed
was the sausa that I had in my head because
I know if that was the kind of sausa I
tried to do, it would send my parents into a coma. Okay, like,
you can't be doing that in front of your parents.
He has a bit of a solo, yes, and the
(15:07):
solo includes ripping off his shirt and moving his hips.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Essentially the intensity of this again. And the shirt comes
off and he just looks into the camera like, yeah,
it's like I did it.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's like that movement where you're like hula hooping, but
you don't know the hula hoops on the ground.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Robert, it's fallen and stop falling.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Wrong, it's fallen.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Pick it up. I know again, I had to look away.
I had to keep watching this, putting my phone down,
walking away, coming back to watch it. It's like a
thirty second clip. It took me like an hour to
watch it.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's a lot, Okay. Then they start doing these dance
moves separately, Yeah, which I think looks professional but also awkward,
like I think he's more of a partner dancer than
a little.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well yeah, he can't dance as a whole one.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
No, no, so I think they should have like if I
was a judge, I'd be like, hmm, I'm taking points
off that because I felt uncomfortable. He then flips her
in the air using his neck.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
What did she say? Yeah, but I didn't think it
was a neck. I mean I did what.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
No, he flipped her around with his neck.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Okay, Can I just say?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And it looks quite dangerous.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Man on Dance with the Stars have an unfair advantage
because I know they have to lift and stuff, but
they can just kind of stand there while the female
dancer like dances around her and she's the one who
had to propel her body over his neck. I mean,
obviously he does some of the heavy lifting.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, I think he also has a thick neck from
practicing of like wrestling crocodiles. Sure, so I think she's like,
let's put that to you.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Let's go, and she's just going around his neck. Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
The dance ends. He winks at the camera and seemingly growls.
But I think that starting a rumor. It's not audible.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You just felt it hesp inside.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
He winks and he goes like a pirate I wish
she had, which is a call back to the start
when she was a parrot.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
On her shoulders. A story.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
It's Story to the Caribbean eight, this whole dish and
tape for the new capt to Jack's barrow.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Oh my god, we're judging him and he's just out
here trying to tell a story about a lonely pirate
who found a pretty girl my dance.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, a lot of animal metaphors in there.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I must have blacked out if he growled, because I
don't remember that, bitch.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I think probably when it ended, I can see you
just immediately turning it up.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I threw my phone into a fire, Yeah, just let
it go.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, but it was like sexy, like I was quite
into it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Well. But also I was there in the room the
moment you discovered you were a bit in love with
Robert Irwin.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Because I was there in the room when I discovered her.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I had no idea. It was mid pod and it
was like a year ago, over a year ago. We're
just chatting, and all of a sudden you just got
really quiet, and you were talking about all the things
you liked about him, and a sudden you got really
quiet and looked down. It's like the moment of rom
Com where you're just like I am in love with Bob,
my best friend, and then you run to the airport.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You would go get it to the zoo, run geor straight.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Rob, it's me. You're trying to climb over the gate
to the crocodile enclosure.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Someone else tries to get me.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I was like, like, no, I'm here for Robert Irwin.
That was a lot. I just stopped away.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I'm not here for you.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Don't want to talk to you. I remember I had
to stop the pod and be like, are you in
love with Robert Irwin? You were so fostered you forgot
we were. He whisp in it because I think he
was so concerned. Are we saying about that? Is that
allow it not come true? This is working because his
whole kind of Dancing with the Stars stint is about
him after he did that whole like viral underwear campaign.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, the bond with the snake. Yes, yes, and no
it was a snake, Yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, it was a metaphor, and that's all we're saying,
a visual metaphor. Yeah, exactly. It was again telling a story.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
When he was introduced as a contestant Dancing with the Stars,
he ran shirtless to the stage.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, it's this whole stick. He's trying to be like,
I'm not that little kid who you guys saw like
growing up with wallabies, and now he's like, I'm a
sexual man. It's like when Disney stars, mostly female Disney
stars always like so infantilized, and then all of a
sudden they'll like wear like arseless chaps on stage and
I'm a woman now if he's doing that.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Which is so funny because Steve wasn't that.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, but again he's trying to forge his own part
and she's trying to like put himself out there is
a bit of like a suave data do you get
into you? He did with People magazine and they asked
her if you'd ever use like wildlife to secretly impress
a date, probably thinking he's going to.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Be like, oh no, and he's like, like he loves
his niece.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Well, yeah, I know they're dating now, are they?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
No? No, they broke up. They did that stage that joint.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
They didn't name names, but maybe it was maybe it
was her, Like.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I've been thinking about her a lot, have you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Do you think this is like revenge from him? No?
I think he's too young to be thinking like that.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I think it's more when you have like your high
school boyfriend and you think in your head it's the
first love, it's the first love of your life. They
were on the carpet with us at Tom Cruiser's.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
No I remember, like they were so nice, them in
so many different emits.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And they were in love. And now she's seeing him.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Do all of this, or maybe he's trying to win
her back. Maybe that little growl of wink was for her,
not for us, for you, that's for sure. But I
don't know if she was the girl in his car.
But he was telling the story like he was driving
a date home, and like, what's he mean. I'm drive
for like a year, so for like the recent Yeah,
he was on his piece. Yeah, he says he's driving
a date home and he saw a snake by the
side of the road, and in his head he was like, oh,
(20:24):
thank god, like this is going to make me look
so good. So he like swerves the car over, gets out,
he goes off road. Who's not going to kill it.
He's a conservationist.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
What he gonna do with the snake?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Move it moved? The snake's already on the side of
the road. I think the snake's like, Rob, I know.
I think he said, that's why I'm on the side,
Like I'm fine down the snake's like.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I saw the road, hence why I'm on the side.
And you still get out and the embarrassed me in
front of the water.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Trying to make himself sound brave in the story, you
ruined it. So he goes off the side of the road.
Maybe the snake was in the middle of the road. Okay, okay,
changes the story, doesn't does change? And he walked over
scoops the snake up, and I think he either put
it somewhere safe or he took it with him. He
puts it on her and in his head he was like,
thank you snake, because it made me look so brave.
(21:10):
And so he used that snake for personal game.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Oh how would have got on the egg?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Would that make you if you were in a car
with Robert Erwood and he pulled over and man handled
a snake out of the way and like saved its life,
would that make you feel more in love with him?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
It depends, Okay, I honestly think it depends on the
situation of the snake. Even if the snake's in the road,
if it looks like it's crossing, I'd be like, Okay,
we'll just stop wait for it to cross.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I feel like Robert Rwind knows what. I would trust
his thoughts on where there are snakes in danger over
our thoughts. No offense to you. If he says the
snakes in danger, I'm going to believe him. Although he
did say he was kind of doing it to impress her.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So I don't think the snake was in danger. I
think the snake.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
I think the snake was probably sleeping on the side
of the rob without consulting me with the passenger seat,
pulls over, gets up, headlights still on, so I'm watching it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's like a cinematic experience.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
He ripped his shirt off the snake safety so the
snake feels.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
The snake up and then like hold it up like
Simbo in The Lion King. And then he like puts
it literally back down where he picked it up from. Yeah,
gets back in the car and he was like, thank
god I did that, And I was like thank god.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, Like, you just interrupted that snake's night, and you
didn't ask any consent about.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
You drove that the next night, and now you've interrupted
me he.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Did say he knew what kind of snake it was.
Obviously he knew it was non venomous, pick it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Up, put it down God, and went not venomous. The
stakes are already lower, and then drove off on the highway.
But he can only go up to nine because he's
on his piece.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, so that's what he's out in the world trying
to do. Now he's telling stories about his heroic encounters
with snakes. He's pulling his shirt off.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
His growling is like becoming very funny. Yeah, like I
love seeing a bit of personality from a young man.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, you are in love with him.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You have to get snakes story? Am I bit off?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Dylan Efron's still there. Okay, well, actually I don't know.
Did you see his first dance?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
No, I'm not the dancing stars fair that you are.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
No Dylan. Okay, maybe I should do a recap of
Dylan e.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
From stand Maybe maybe another day.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It includes twerking in the judges spaces.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Oh okay, well these boys, they're just trying to get
a bit of fame. So anyway, stay tuned for Robert
Irwin's tastead take over America through his sexy the whole
Erwin Family's they're supporting you there. Yeah, what about the animals?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Who's looking after?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
That was just wide open By's American husband by himself,
just like I don't know what to do. It cuts
to Australia. Do it all animals like partying and drinking
and they've got like cigarettes hanging over their mouth.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
They do a Madagascar or just leave.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So since the news broke of Nicole Kidman and Keith
Urban separation on Tuesday that we covered in that episode
of The Spill, at the time of recording, it was
kind of confirmed through sources, but Nicole and Keith hadn't
said anything and there was no documentation to prove it.
So I think a few people out there were holding
out hope that it was just a vicious lie and scandal.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But people reported on it, which means which.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Was how we knew it was kind of true.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
But whose camp do you think the leak came through?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Here's the thing. TMZ was the first to break the
news and they put it out there, and then every
other publication who has ties to the Keith Urban and
Nicole Kidman camps went and checked it with their own sources,
and at the time I was like, it's interesting how
TMZ would have found that because they are not in
the camps of that many celebrities, like lower tier celebrities
who call them to like, you know, do paparazzi shots
(24:34):
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But to be at the airport.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, exactly. But Nicole Kidmen's not calling up TMZ be like, hey,
I've got a hot scoop for you, and nothing had
been filed to our knowledge at the time. And that's
usually how TMZ finds things because they have so many
people at hospitals, courthouses, all these different places. But now
the divorce papers have been filed by Nicole Kimmen, So
I don't know if there was somehow TMZ got a
tip off for someone from like a lawyer's office or
(24:57):
something that was going to happen. Because Nicole Kidman officially
filed for divorce from Keith Urban on September thirty. So
after all the news broke and now all of the
information from those court documents, because it's been cited by
so many people, have been made public. And what's kind
of interesting is just how I guess, like any separation
(25:18):
that involves children, even though their daughters are seventeen and fourteen,
so older children, but you still have to have a
custody arrangement, especially for a fourteen year old. Is how
in depth their arrangement is and how they've already sorted
all their assets and everything.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, it didn't seem very conflict y when I looked
at the divorce documents. But I also wanted to know,
is it weird that that was released before they actually
put out a statement.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Well, they haven't put out a statement yet, so we.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Think they just won't that Like, now it's just done.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I think they won't put out a statement. I think yeah, no, no,
I don't think they have to now that the documents
are okay being filed. Yeah, the documents say a lot,
and the documents have done all the talking for them.
And I think that when you're a celebrity, when you're
this famous, when these documents are being put together, you
almost have to do it in a way of knowing
that every single thing you're doing will be made public.
And some celebrities, as we know, are just like I
(26:10):
don't care, like I'm going to sue them for spouse
or support. I'm going to say what they.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Did to take a lot of emotions going in there.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, but this is so carefully curated to make it
look like a very mutual split behind the scenes, which
is very different to the stories that are coming out.
So from looking at the document again, it's very clear
this divorce has been in the works for a very,
very long time, which is also interesting because they were
spotted together three months ago, but the amount of detail
(26:36):
that's in these documents makes you think like it's been
in the works even longer. Like when they were spotted together,
they're potentially already working through their divorce proceedings. So you've
got to put a cause for your marriage ending, and
Nicole has put that they have experienced marital difficulties and
irreconcilable differences, which is kind of the main cause that
most people put irreconcilable differences, right, okay, because the others
(26:59):
are like cheating, fraud, abuse, yes, darker.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
You can't really tell what it actually was.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yes, exactly, So they say.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
That they could be like I didn't like the way
he cheators.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
For yeah, and that is a difference, I guess. Yeah,
So you put that in there. So the couple say
they officially separate on September thirty and they list that
as their official date of separation, and there's a lot
of stuff about their custody arrangements and Nicole has been
named the primary residential parent and the plan for their
daughter's custody arrangements. I'm just gonna acknowledge it's a bit
(27:32):
icky that we even know this. Ye, it's because it's
such a personal thing involving their kids. But in the
document it says that they've agreed that the children will
spend three hundred and six days a year with Nicole
Kidman and fifty nine days of the year with Keith Urban.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Isn't that wild?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
It gets more intense than that. So Keith Urban will
have custody of their daughters on alternate weekends from Saturday
at ten am through till Sunday at six pm, and
there's no midweek swapover like they only do it like that, which.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Is interesting because have a lot of friends to her
parents who have been divorced, and when they were telling
me about like their it's usually that where like they
saw their dad every second weekend, but actually seeing the
days like that in the year, and the stark difference
of numbers.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
And then and the pickup timing tangy six and stuff.
And again, I don't know, every family's kind of different,
but also that's kind of very almost like rigid, especially
for such adult kids seventeen year old who could be
like I'm gonna go to my parents this weekend or
parents that weekend. But maybe this is just the best
way for them to work it out.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
But I remember, even before, like we even knew about
the divorce, we knew that Nicole Kidman always talked about
how much her kids love to travel because she was
always traveling and they've lived in so many different countries
like in Europe, in Asia and Australia in Nashville. Like,
if you knew that about like their kids' lives, this
doesn't seem like such a stark difference, because I feel
(28:57):
like people who didn't know that immediately thinks it's like
these are two massive celebrities who both have to travel
for work, Like he's currently touring, she's constantly in different
countries filming, Like how would that work with like kids?
And it's like that's what they've always done anyway.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, so it's not going to feel like a huge
different thing to them. And I guess this is just
what they've had to sort of put in the documents
to really kind of they've gone, yes, so intense of
the details, like he gets Father's Day every year on Thanksgiving,
they get alternate years. Nicole Kidman's going to have them
for Christmas on the odd numbered years, and he's having
to have them on the even numbers. They've divided up
all of their school holidays. What's also interesting is that
(29:34):
they have in the divorce document an agreement that they've
both signed that they will never speak badly of each
other or any members of their family, and that they
will encourage their children to love the other parent and
be comfortable in both families.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I've never seen that in documents.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, it's just yeah, it's like that's in the divorce
proceedings that they are not allowed to speak badly of
each other. I guess when you're so public, you have
to lean into that side of it.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
This is also even if that happens, can they sue
each other?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Well, like it's a legal document, I guess, so, we'll guess.
It would just kind of change the terms of their
divorce proceedings. It also says in there that they have
both been met d to attend a parenting seminar within
sixty days of the divorce filing.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Well, I guess it's just to kind of go over
all the details, like a seminar. Maybe it's just something
that the court's put in place. And I don't know
that was a different one for me. I haven't seen that.
Some sort of mediation. Yeah, yeah, I think that's what
it is, Like a mediation. Neither of them will pay
each other any alimony or spousal support.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I found that really interested you because I feel like
when it comes to these celebrity divorce proceedings, that's the
first thing I look for because you are obviously so
separate from it as the public, because you're seeing these
two ultra rich people who both have so much money.
And I think it's still interesting how it feels like
such a common man battle of like who pays who
(30:56):
and how much do you pay? And you still see
the celebrities doing it, and it's like in the millions
of dollars exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Sometimes you think, like, why are these celebrities fighting out
in court like that's what everyone is saying.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Seems like such a private detail as well.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, but I guess sometimes when it comes down, it's
all relative to what your wealth is. I mean, that's
why people thought it was so wild that Brad Pitt
and Angelina Jolly dragged each other through the courts for
so many years, not just about their custody arrangements, which
is fair enough, like when you both have such different
views you have to go to a court, but over
their winery and their assets and everything. And everyone was like,
oh my god, just isn't it worth you're so rich
(31:28):
just to lose a bit of the money to not
be dragging all this public information out into the world.
But I guess at the end of the day, even
if you're rich, you're like, I still want to keep
my money. That's me you stay rich. So this was
the other interesting thing in there is that they don't
hold any joint assets, so there's no real estate or anything.
There's pretty much nothing there to there's no big assets
(31:49):
to divide up. And it sounds like they don't own property,
but they actually own property. They don't have any property
that like that beautiful house that Nicole Gimman did her
like Vogue seventy three questions in or they're like very
famous Nashville residents. It's all owned through businesses and trusts.
Must be a tax right off situation. So there's nothing
in their names.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
But they actually don't have joint assets.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Well no, no, they have some joint assets, they don't
have any joint big assets, like all of their properties
are not in their names. So they said they've already
divided those up. They said they are both responsible for
their own debts. And I was like, what kind of
did are you guys in on that does my business?
But they said they've even divided up their hotel, airline
(32:33):
and credit card points.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, that's so Australian.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
It's Australian, I think we are. So I'll give you
the house, the Nashville home. I'll take Christmas, you take Thanksgiving,
but I'm taking my airline point.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
When it comes to Quantus frequent flyers like, we are
so addicted to our airline points, like Velocity frequent flyers
like I feel like everyone everyone I talked to it
knows exactly how much points they had because we're so far.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, COLCM is flying from Australia to Nashville back and forth.
That woman's got so many airlines.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I'd give my points in the colcmen if she really
needed that, had me too? Come on, She's like because
just like like when I read that, I was like,
this is so Australia. I know Americans like People Magazine
are looking through that going what.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
The heck a one point? Yeah, hotel points, credit card
bills again, what's all this far?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Guys like it takes us like a long time to
see the rest of the world, and it's a lot
of money.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Exactly. You just know that She's like, I got those
points and I'm not giving them to you.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Keith Herbans, I had to move to Vietnam, I had
to do this.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I had to go to Singapore, I had to go
to Europe. So everything else they say, And this is
what makes me think that this must have been in
the works for We only did really top line the
custody arrangements there, but there's pages and pages and pages
of they have every holiday, every day, every moment of
these young girls' lives is being divided between her parents
in such meticulous detail that you think this must have
(33:59):
been in the works for a long time. And the
other thing that it says in the divorce proceedings is
that they have already divided up all of their furniture,
all of their art, their vehicles, and all of their
personal belongings from all of their different homes from their
over twenty years, like.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Personal belonging, So I'm thinking things like photo album. Yeah,
like that would be so meticulous, Like I guess they
have assistance to do that for them. Yeah, but I
also think, like Sunday Rosen Faith, that's Mums, that's Dad,
that's Mums.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
That's that they have multiple homes too, is the other thing.
So again, it kind of feels to everyone that was
so sudden, and I guess it was because we didn't
really know, but it does feel like this has been
in the works a lot lot longer for.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, it seems very planned out.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, so I would say that we're going six months
at least, maybe even like over a year that they
were publicly together. Obviously we have no idea and we'll
never know, but it feels like sometimes when they were
very publicly together that behind the scenes, they were already
working through the details of their divorce proceedings, so that
the day it was leaked and they were able to file,
(35:05):
everything is already so meticulously, carefully planned out that their
divorce will just go straight through and then nothing else
can be made published really once that's done.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, celebrities are so much stronger than I am.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, I just think that if you look at just
the scrutiny they've already had, just look at also all
the gossip that's flying around at the moment about them.
I mean, it was only two days ago that all
these sources from like People, magazine and stuff, who usually
have the right story, all these sources were saying she's
been desperately trying to save the marriage. She tried to
make it work. But this proves that that's not true. Because
if she was desperately trying to save the marriage, why
(35:39):
has she divided up her airline miles already and all
their furniture and their children, who they obviously you know,
has been like the center of like trying to make
this like a smooth divorce.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
She's so like I would struggle so hard doing the
public thing while facing this in private, Like, she's so
much I could never do that, Like Keith Urban if
he was like to me, I love your baby girls, Like,
oh well, I guess the divorces.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Off yeah again and have to go and like, divide
up those paintings.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
When he gets home and he's like, I think I'm
gonna take that, I'm like no.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
It's when the public scrutiny has been so intense because
they've obviously gone to such lengths to make it look
like everything's like we will never talk badly about each other,
we love our children. Everything's being divided. It's like Nicole
Kimmen and Keith Urban like screaming from the rooftops, like
there's no story here, and people are trying to invent
a story because that's what exactly. There's all those things
about her being a workaholic and that's why he left her,
(36:28):
and that she was begging to save the marriage, like
that's been a rumor. And then there's the rumor that
he's already found another young, hot girlfriend and that's the
reason that then.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
We start digging, right then we start looking at past
interviews through a different lens. Yeah, Like I'm seeing that
interview of her on Jimmy Fallon constantly on my feet,
and that happened years ago. They were kind of having
that joke about them nearly dating, and then Keith came
in and she was sitting on his Lap like it
was like those kind of interviews and when he hung
up on that radio show when they asked him about
Nicole and I think zac Efron it was that movie
(36:58):
where she was with sacking from So like all these
celebrities are getting tired in, Like Zach and Jimmy are like,
please leave us out of this, and it's like that's
what everyone's going to do now. They're going to go
through their history and the like eye and they look
at it through and another. It was so long ago, Jimmy,
I'm pretty sure it was so long ago that I
watched it on TV.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, I didn't even watch it. It was not in
the old one mirror office, but the one before.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That, and that's old.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
That's old.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
We've been here for a long time.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
That's what we're recording in this little box in the
old office that we called the Choky Jack. That's how
That's how I tell time. So that I don't think
we should bring Jimmy fallon his wife Nancy into this, and.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Jimmy probably be like, oh god, yeah, he's.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Like I've had enough of this. But yeah, it's kind
of very Italian. There's also people, there's all these rumors
saying that like there was a drug clause in their
preenup agreement and all these things, and that Nicole Kimon
was allowed to leave him if he did this, like
all of these so many wild rumors, and I want
to get into like the most intense of them, because
it's just a lot of cheating and stuff. And so
it's like that's happening on one side, and you.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Know, like their daughters are old enough, like especially Sunday Rose,
who has her own Instagram and making her own profile.
Now she would be seeing everything, yes, and that's just
like there's something about your parents he should not be saying.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah. I think that's why they've gone on the defensive
with this, just coming straight out the gate was like,
we filed and everything's fine, everything's perfect, We have a
legal clause that we have to be nice to each other.
Take that gossip people shut out everyone. Yeah, that's every
little shocking detail from Nicole Kidmen's divorce filings. Intense as
it is. So it's not nice. But hopefully now that's
(38:30):
kind of the stories move on fast, like now that
that's done, it's kind of been confirmed.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Now we're ready for practical magic too.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, oh my God, bring on practical magic.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Because that in the court, in the cold documents, because
I don't need to know a real esse date.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
The release dates, and then I know, yeah, I will
be cheering Nicole kimmen On through that because I just
love prose and actress and she's got practical magic to
look forward to. What else do we as do? We? Well?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
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Speaker 1 (39:16):
Bye bye
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this
podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill,
your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
M Burnham and coming up on.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
The show today, Nicole Kidman has officially filed for divorce
from Keith Urban, and the entire legal document for their divorce, unfortunately,
has been made public. I have combed through it, and
we're going to talk about the most shocking reveals, but
also paint more of a picture where Nicole's at, Like
obviously we're well, we're team both of them, but you know,
we're going to get to the truth of that. Plus
(00:54):
an equally important story, Robert Irwin is staging a very
sexy takeover of America right now. He's in the trenches,
he's doing the work, and he's going to recap that.
If you have any smaller she just going to recap
Robert Irwin's sexiness. If you have any small children around animal,
anyone who's a bit fragile, maybe just get them out
of the room for that bit and protect them.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
But first, but first, I was scrolling on my TikTok
feed and I came across this clip from Amy Poehler's
podcast Good Hang. I didn't realize how big of a
fan I was of this podcast until, like, really good.
It's like an integral part to my Saturday morning. It's
a one podcast I listened to when I wake up
and do all my morning stuff on a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I saw guy that I have all my favorite pods,
and it's so hard to find pods that you'd love
and that you want to listen to. I'm like, my
ears are a sacred space. I don't like it just
anyone in there. And I have my five pods that
I listen to every week, and I have a specific time,
like this one is for my Saturday morning walk and
getting a coffee. This one is for like a Sunday
night when I'm having a wine on my balcony. This
one's for like when I go and do an exercise
(01:57):
like a long walk or something.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Oh my god, we should release our listening habits.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh no, it's also so personal.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I know, but I think people would want to know. Okay,
I want to I mean, I know yours, Yeah, I do, Okay,
we've had it after a few ones.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, I know, we always do. I know. I wish
I was more mysterious, but I'm just an open book. Okay.
So you spend Saturday morning with Amy Poler, I do.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
And it's like one of those podcasts. So she's an
interviewer and she interviews a lot of people that she's
also friends with.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
So it's a lot of people in her life. And
it's one of those podcasts where I feel like with
interviewing podcasts, you pick and choose which episode you want
to listen to. And she's such a good interviewer and
she's so like warm and welcoming that no matter who
she's interviewing, I just listen, even if I don't know
them or Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And she's one of the few big, huge celebrities, movie stars,
all that sort of stuff who I think should be
doing a podcast because now that every single movie star
who used to have the most enviled job in the world,
like it was so hard to be a full time
actor and be in these movies, and the fact that
they're all kind of pushing that aside now to do
a podcast, which is our daily job.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Get out, Get out, we're here. You have the right thing.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We have the voice of podcasting.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
We didn't have a choice. We had to go here.
We had no other skills. You guys.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, they're like camera No, these girls below belong and
audio only.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But I can kind of see Amy Polar because she
and she says she loves to good to hang, she
loves the chat. Yeah, so it kind of feels like
the right space for her.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yes, And because I am so involved in watching those
and I watch it on my TV as well, do
you Yeah, it's like a cinematic experience for me. Okay,
because I watched it on my TV, I get fed
a lot of the socials as well. And as pre
promo for her episode with Regina Hall, who is one
of my favorite comedic actresses of all time, I saw
(03:41):
this little clip and I want to play it for you.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
They say, like eighty six percent of the most successful
men are married.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
That's got. I mean, that's got.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I mean, you know, they need that grounding, they need
that home base. And women don't, no, no, because they
find it in friendships. There was a SETI if you
ask men who their best friend is, most of them
say their wives, right, And if you ask a woman,
she's really got her friends like.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Love that.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
She's like, you ask a woman, She's like, I have
real friends, Like I have a lot of friends.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, one of them the correct answer.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Also that like gap you like here between Regina Hall
saying that's stat and then it's like silence. It's if
you watch the interview, it's Amy Politch is looking at
down the barrel of the camera as like obviously, but
it's like, I love this clip so much, And it
was one of those clips I came with my TikTok
fig that I just watched on repeat because I was
so bloody funny, but also because it's one of those
(04:42):
celebrity moments that's so realistic to the everyday person. And
in my head, I always forget that celebrities are also
part of these big stats that we see, yes, because
it feels that they're so so separate, and also through
that lens of Hollywood, I always assumed it was the opposite.
Oh really yeah, And I think this comes off the
(05:05):
back of watching like big celebrity male stars in Hollywood
and how they're always perpetually single. Like in my head,
I'm like brad Pitt, Like how everyone said that after
the divorce, Angelina got the kids and he got Hollywood
Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, like Bradley Cooper, like all of
these like men, Leona DiCaprio, Yeah, who ultimate single? Yeah,
(05:27):
And I'm like we see them dating, yeah, women after age,
but we see them in relationships and stuff, but they're
always perpetually single in our heads.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Even Leonardo DiCaprio now has been in a relationship with
Victorius already for quite a few years, and she's over
twenty five. She's like holding her friend every year. Yeah,
she turned twenty five a little while ago, she's holding.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Did he get with her when she was twenty five?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
No? No, no, oh god, no no no. Everyone just thought,
because he usually breaks up with women when they turn
twenty five, that on her twenty fifth birthday she'd be seen,
like look at your suitcase away from the super yacht
they've been sharing.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'm like, she's still there. Yeah, I'm way too old
for him.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Maybe he's like waiting till twenty Now that he's fifty,
he's like, I'll go twenty six, like on any change
of the eighties, he's like time to grow up, he
goes to twenty six, twenty six to twenty seven. Yeah,
he's like, wow, the personal growth is off.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Just when I watched this clip, I was like, oh,
I could just immediately think of all of these celebrity
men who are like gradually single. And I think it's
also because as those men are getting older, and we
know that Hollywood favors older men, that they are so
reliant on those parasocial relationships that they have with their audience.
And there is something about feeling more okay watching and
(06:38):
kind of I guess quote unquote thirsting after man when
you know he's single. Yeah, and yet all my favorite
actors in Hollywood are women, and it's regardless of her
relationship status.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, it doesn't make us like or dislike a woman anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah no, And I just found that so interesting. But
what do you think of that stat because I'm really
interested to know, Like, I know you watch Good Hang
and you're a fan of Regina Wore, But when celebrities
are talking about like these kind of like lifestylely moments,
do you feel like that they have access to be
able to talk about those things?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And when you say access, do you mean do they
have lived experience, like are they allowed, Well, I mean obviously,
it's like anything a celebrity talks about is like everyone's
looking for like vulnerability and honestly because you want to
relate to us. And when I said, like we don't
like women more or less when they're single. Sometimes if
they are like really long term single, I do find
a little bit of comfort in that because I'm like,
(07:30):
this is the most beautiful in the world. She's so successful,
everyone loves her. She's still single. You and I have
talked about this before when I have had many drunken
airport chats. It's like it makes you feel a little
bit better when you've got like other people who are
in the same situation. But at the same time, everything's
like a little bit tinged with like if you wanted to,
you kind of could, like you've got access to so
many people.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
On the level of success, right, Like I always think
about that with Mindy Kayaling yea, like always single and
yet she still was able to have kids. Yeah, but
also it's through the lens of like she's single, but
it almost feels like society allows her to be single
because she's so so successful.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
This is what I always find myself as a single
woman is like, you've got to have these extra achievements
to kind of blur the singleness away. So you've always
got to have these big career highlights to.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Share the best at you. You have to be like
the funniest person in your family.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Always have to be off having this big adventure. Yeah,
you have to be the funniest, the most dynamic. You
have to have like a beautiful home. You have to
be successful at work and always kind of living this big,
adventurous life. And sometimes I'm just tired.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
But mindy, kaytimes I just want to be bad at
my job.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Sometimes I want to be single and also a failure
at the rest of my life. Just let a girl live.
Maybe I'm just gonna underachieve across the board and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
What if we just like start being really bad.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, let's do it right now while.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Produced we're going to be really bad at the were
just both came up on our careers. If you guys
want to help us, stop listening.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, don't watch us on YouTube, don't live review on
Apple or Spotify, don't follow us on social follow I
just want to be mediocre. Oh no, that's the thing. Like,
there's not a lot of pity for someone like a
Mindy Kaling or even like recently like Shelley's The Road
or anyone like that, because they have these big, beautiful homes. Yes,
they were able to have kids as single women because
they have the funds, which is what stops a lot
(09:20):
of It's not a man that stops a lot of
women not having children, it's the finance of it. Yeah,
and the money. So when you have all that, and.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I feel like we don't see it, But I wonder
if like in they're inner circles, like amongst Mindy Kaling's friends,
we're also on her same level of success who also
have like families and are like dating and are having
boyfriends and they're like getting married and getting divorced and
they're married again.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
If they see that, yeah, maybe it's interesting too because
Amy Pole has been single for a really long time
as well, and she's had people come on the show
and try and set her up with billionaires.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
That is my favorite episode.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
She's like, I don't want that. I don't want a
man around me, And I was like, they're all fair
because again, one of the most loved women in the world,
and she was just like, I don't need that. It's
kind of interesting. I do think we're.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Collecting these when when we first got Emma Watson and
now we have Amy.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Poehler, yeah, single girls a single, the famous beautiful rich
single girls club and wearing it as well. Yeah, I mean, well,
now we've gone from our jobs, we're not going to
be in it. Yeah, but yeah, that's an interesting thing
of looking through that comment through the lens of Hollywood,
because you have these kind of yeah, really famous men
who are very like famously single, and even Leonardo DiCaprio,
who's been in a relationship for years, we still think
(10:30):
of him as a single man, just because that's the
way he presents. But then you also have these really
famous actors who have made their wives their entire personality.
George Clooney, Oh yeah, Robert Downey Jr. Credits his entire
success to his wife Susan, which is kind of a
fair thing. Well, like you have yeah, like he's like,
you know, they're all.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Both his wife and Jalo.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, David's not married to Jlo No, but he had
to comfort her. Oh that's so true, right, I was like, wait,
is that Gossom ben epic?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Like running around with these women and the mad dame
and going man, he's having to I have to look
after her.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Uncomfort all the ex girlfriends and.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
All the ex girl friends coming up to my going man.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think we do see this thing of
really famous men, even like Chris Hemsworth. There's so many
who were just like, they're like these really famous wife
guys like my wife, my wife, my wife, because it
kind of deflects from all the things, and it also.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And it also gives them the concept like, look, I'm a.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Good guy because I'm married. It like inserts a personality
for them they might not have had before.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And you know what, it's working.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
That's fine. They're the kind of men that say that's
my best friend, and they're watch like you're not my friend.
It's like, ilk, you just know. Elsa Bataki's like, I
have a best friend. It's not you. Chris Emsworth.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Okay, in case you missed it, Robert Irwin, I did
not miss it. I'll tell you that he's still on
Dancing with the Stars. Look, this is the first time
in Dancing with the Star's history that I've seen so
much of this show. Oh you're invested now Without my consent,
like it's just all over my face.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, last thing, like Dancing the Stars has been going
for so long, well before like any of these social
platforms or a thing. But their team has adapted so
well to social that they just make every season go
viral in a way that other reality shows haven't been
able to achieve.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's so wild because there are a lot of contestants.
I'm Dancing with the Stars, but in my head there's
only two. Oh, who's the other one, Robin Irwin and
Dylan Efron.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh, of course you're gonna say, Alex Earl. I thought
she'd be in your wheelhouse. Oh she in Yeah, Oh
my god, you say you're such a fake fan. And
your save girl, Ilaria Baldwin. Oh, dancing her Spanish dancers.
Laria's like salsa.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I've got this.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
She's like I grew up dancing Spain in Massachusetts where
I lived, when I never lived in Spain anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The only people I've seen Robert Irwin and Dylan Efron.
I think Robert Irwin was the fan favorite from the
first episode because that was like the very first episode
is where you see like how committed each celebrity is
to the actual program right, and he was very committed,
as committed as he is as I'm gonna say animals.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, it's like dancing animals, nothing else, and nothing else,
that's all he has.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So this second routine that's been going absolutely viral, it's
because it's so sexy. Have you watched it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I felt dirty watching it. I felt like it's not
something I should be watching with my eyes, even though
it was on public broadcast television. And that moment with
a light score up and the camera's on his face
and he's looking with such intense moldering. He's smoldering into
the camera with the intensity that like an old school
movie star could never achieve. I like melted to the floor.
(13:41):
Not in a sexy way. I'm just like I don't
know what to look. I don't do my hand.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It did what I did when I watched Magic Mike.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, yeah, I did when we watched Magic Mike, EM
and I at the cinema. She like just fell onto
the floor in a puddle. That was me in my
apartment watching Robert Erwin dancing.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Okay, Spiller's if you haven't watched a video, don't, because
I'm about to recap it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, this is also put in our socials later, but this.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Is exactly we won't need to Okay, this is exactly
what happened.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So it starts off where they're on this platform and
she's perched on his shoulder like a sexy parrot.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And that's when we get the zoom in on his
face and he's smoldering, and it's quite a long smolder.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's so long.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I didn't think he expected the camera to be there
for that.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Lost in his head like one, two three, it's not movie.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Okay. Then she's off the shoulder, he jumps off the platform,
she takes the stairs quite safe, safety first. Then now
on the DF and now on the dance floor, okay,
and they start doing what I'm assuming is the salsa.
I should also point out that her name is Whitney
Caulson and she's a professional dancer.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, of course she's a professional dancer of the dance.
How did you not was the salsa? Do you know
you just guessed that's the one dance movie? You know?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I researched because I actually a question. No, I know
what salsa looks like. I don't think what I witnessed
was the sausa that I had in my head because
I know if that was the kind of sausa I
tried to do, it would send my parents into a coma. Okay, like,
you can't be doing that in front of your parents.
He has a bit of a solo, yes, and the
(15:07):
solo includes ripping off his shirt and moving his hips.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Essentially the intensity of this again. And the shirt comes
off and he just looks into the camera like, yeah,
it's like I did it.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's like that movement where you're like hula hooping, but
you don't know the hula hoops on the ground.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Robert, it's fallen and stop falling.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Wrong, it's fallen.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Pick it up. I know again, I had to look away.
I had to keep watching this, putting my phone down,
walking away, coming back to watch it. It's like a
thirty second clip. It took me like an hour to
watch it.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It's a lot, Okay. Then they start doing these dance
moves separately, Yeah, which I think looks professional but also awkward,
like I think he's more of a partner dancer than
a little.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well yeah, he can't dance as a whole one.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
No, no, so I think they should have like if I
was a judge, I'd be like, hmm, I'm taking points
off that because I felt uncomfortable. He then flips her
in the air using his neck.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
What did she say? Yeah, but I didn't think it
was a neck. I mean I did what.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
No, he flipped her around with his neck.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Okay, Can I just say?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And it looks quite dangerous.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Man on Dance with the Stars have an unfair advantage
because I know they have to lift and stuff, but
they can just kind of stand there while the female
dancer like dances around her and she's the one who
had to propel her body over his neck. I mean,
obviously he does some of the heavy lifting.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, I think he also has a thick neck from
practicing of like wrestling crocodiles. Sure, so I think she's like,
let's put that to you.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Let's go, and she's just going around his neck. Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
The dance ends. He winks at the camera and seemingly growls.
But I think that starting a rumor. It's not audible.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You just felt it hesp inside.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
He winks and he goes like a pirate I wish
she had, which is a call back to the start
when she was a parrot.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
On her shoulders. A story.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
It's Story to the Caribbean eight, this whole dish and
tape for the new capt to Jack's barrow.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Oh my god, we're judging him and he's just out
here trying to tell a story about a lonely pirate
who found a pretty girl my dance.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, a lot of animal metaphors in there.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I must have blacked out if he growled, because I
don't remember that, bitch.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I think probably when it ended, I can see you
just immediately turning it up.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I threw my phone into a fire, Yeah, just let
it go.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, but it was like sexy, like I was quite
into it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Well. But also I was there in the room the
moment you discovered you were a bit in love with
Robert Irwin.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Because I was there in the room when I discovered her.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I had no idea. It was mid pod and it
was like a year ago, over a year ago. We're
just chatting, and all of a sudden you just got
really quiet, and you were talking about all the things
you liked about him, and a sudden you got really
quiet and looked down. It's like the moment of rom
Com where you're just like I am in love with Bob,
my best friend, and then you run to the airport.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You would go get it to the zoo, run geor straight.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Rob, it's me. You're trying to climb over the gate
to the crocodile enclosure.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Someone else tries to get me.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I was like, like, no, I'm here for Robert Irwin.
That was a lot. I just stopped away.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I'm not here for you.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Don't want to talk to you. I remember I had
to stop the pod and be like, are you in
love with Robert Irwin? You were so fostered you forgot
we were. He whisp in it because I think he
was so concerned. Are we saying about that? Is that
allow it not come true? This is working because his
whole kind of Dancing with the Stars stint is about
him after he did that whole like viral underwear campaign.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, the bond with the snake. Yes, yes, and no
it was a snake, Yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, it was a metaphor, and that's all we're saying,
a visual metaphor. Yeah, exactly. It was again telling a story.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
When he was introduced as a contestant Dancing with the Stars,
he ran shirtless to the stage.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, it's this whole stick. He's trying to be like,
I'm not that little kid who you guys saw like
growing up with wallabies, and now he's like, I'm a
sexual man. It's like when Disney stars, mostly female Disney
stars always like so infantilized, and then all of a
sudden they'll like wear like arseless chaps on stage and
I'm a woman now if he's doing that.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Which is so funny because Steve wasn't that.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, but again he's trying to forge his own part
and she's trying to like put himself out there is
a bit of like a suave data do you get
into you? He did with People magazine and they asked
her if you'd ever use like wildlife to secretly impress
a date, probably thinking he's going to.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Be like, oh no, and he's like, like he loves
his niece.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Well, yeah, I know they're dating now, are they?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
No? No, they broke up. They did that stage that joint.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
They didn't name names, but maybe it was maybe it
was her, Like.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I've been thinking about her a lot, have you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Do you think this is like revenge from him? No?
I think he's too young to be thinking like that.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I think it's more when you have like your high
school boyfriend and you think in your head it's the
first love, it's the first love of your life. They
were on the carpet with us at Tom Cruiser's.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
No I remember, like they were so nice, them in
so many different emits.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And they were in love. And now she's seeing him.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Do all of this, or maybe he's trying to win
her back. Maybe that little growl of wink was for her,
not for us, for you, that's for sure. But I
don't know if she was the girl in his car.
But he was telling the story like he was driving
a date home, and like, what's he mean. I'm drive
for like a year, so for like the recent Yeah,
he was on his piece. Yeah, he says he's driving
a date home and he saw a snake by the
side of the road, and in his head he was like, oh,
(20:24):
thank god, like this is going to make me look
so good. So he like swerves the car over, gets out,
he goes off road. Who's not going to kill it.
He's a conservationist.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
What he gonna do with the snake?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Move it moved? The snake's already on the side of
the road. I think the snake's like, Rob, I know.
I think he said, that's why I'm on the side,
Like I'm fine down the snake's like.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I saw the road, hence why I'm on the side.
And you still get out and the embarrassed me in
front of the water.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Trying to make himself sound brave in the story, you
ruined it. So he goes off the side of the road.
Maybe the snake was in the middle of the road. Okay, okay,
changes the story, doesn't does change? And he walked over
scoops the snake up, and I think he either put
it somewhere safe or he took it with him. He
puts it on her and in his head he was like,
thank you snake, because it made me look so brave.
(21:10):
And so he used that snake for personal game.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Oh how would have got on the egg?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Would that make you if you were in a car
with Robert Erwood and he pulled over and man handled
a snake out of the way and like saved its life,
would that make you feel more in love with him?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
It depends, Okay, I honestly think it depends on the
situation of the snake. Even if the snake's in the road,
if it looks like it's crossing, I'd be like, Okay,
we'll just stop wait for it to cross.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I feel like Robert Rwind knows what. I would trust
his thoughts on where there are snakes in danger over
our thoughts. No offense to you. If he says the
snakes in danger, I'm going to believe him. Although he
did say he was kind of doing it to impress her.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So I don't think the snake was in danger. I
think the snake.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
I think the snake was probably sleeping on the side
of the rob without consulting me with the passenger seat,
pulls over, gets up, headlights still on, so I'm watching it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It's like a cinematic experience.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
He ripped his shirt off the snake safety so the
snake feels.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
The snake up and then like hold it up like
Simbo in The Lion King. And then he like puts
it literally back down where he picked it up from. Yeah,
gets back in the car and he was like, thank
god I did that, And I was like thank god.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, Like, you just interrupted that snake's night, and you
didn't ask any consent about.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
You drove that the next night, and now you've interrupted
me he.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Did say he knew what kind of snake it was.
Obviously he knew it was non venomous, pick it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Up, put it down God, and went not venomous. The
stakes are already lower, and then drove off on the highway.
But he can only go up to nine because he's
on his piece.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, so that's what he's out in the world trying
to do. Now he's telling stories about his heroic encounters
with snakes. He's pulling his shirt off.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
His growling is like becoming very funny. Yeah, like I
love seeing a bit of personality from a young man.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, you are in love with him.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You have to get snakes story? Am I bit off?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Dylan Efron's still there. Okay, well, actually I don't know.
Did you see his first dance?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
No, I'm not the dancing stars fair that you are.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
No Dylan. Okay, maybe I should do a recap of
Dylan e.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
From stand Maybe maybe another day.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It includes twerking in the judges spaces.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Oh okay, well these boys, they're just trying to get
a bit of fame. So anyway, stay tuned for Robert
Irwin's tastead take over America through his sexy the whole
Erwin Family's they're supporting you there. Yeah, what about the animals?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Who's looking after?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
That was just wide open By's American husband by himself,
just like I don't know what to do. It cuts
to Australia. Do it all animals like partying and drinking
and they've got like cigarettes hanging over their mouth.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
They do a Madagascar or just leave.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So since the news broke of Nicole Kidman and Keith
Urban separation on Tuesday that we covered in that episode
of The Spill, at the time of recording, it was
kind of confirmed through sources, but Nicole and Keith hadn't
said anything and there was no documentation to prove it.
So I think a few people out there were holding
out hope that it was just a vicious lie and scandal.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But people reported on it, which means which.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Was how we knew it was kind of true.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
But whose camp do you think the leak came through?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Here's the thing. TMZ was the first to break the
news and they put it out there, and then every
other publication who has ties to the Keith Urban and
Nicole Kidman camps went and checked it with their own sources,
and at the time I was like, it's interesting how
TMZ would have found that because they are not in
the camps of that many celebrities, like lower tier celebrities
who call them to like, you know, do paparazzi shots
(24:34):
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But to be at the airport.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, exactly. But Nicole Kidmen's not calling up TMZ be like, hey,
I've got a hot scoop for you, and nothing had
been filed to our knowledge at the time. And that's
usually how TMZ finds things because they have so many
people at hospitals, courthouses, all these different places. But now
the divorce papers have been filed by Nicole Kimmen, So
I don't know if there was somehow TMZ got a
tip off for someone from like a lawyer's office or
(24:57):
something that was going to happen. Because Nicole Kidman officially
filed for divorce from Keith Urban on September thirty. So
after all the news broke and now all of the
information from those court documents, because it's been cited by
so many people, have been made public. And what's kind
of interesting is just how I guess, like any separation
(25:18):
that involves children, even though their daughters are seventeen and fourteen,
so older children, but you still have to have a
custody arrangement, especially for a fourteen year old. Is how
in depth their arrangement is and how they've already sorted
all their assets and everything.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, it didn't seem very conflict y when I looked
at the divorce documents. But I also wanted to know,
is it weird that that was released before they actually
put out a statement.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Well, they haven't put out a statement yet, so we.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Think they just won't that Like, now it's just done.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I think they won't put out a statement. I think yeah, no, no,
I don't think they have to now that the documents
are okay being filed. Yeah, the documents say a lot,
and the documents have done all the talking for them.
And I think that when you're a celebrity, when you're
this famous, when these documents are being put together, you
almost have to do it in a way of knowing
that every single thing you're doing will be made public.
And some celebrities, as we know, are just like I
(26:10):
don't care, like I'm going to sue them for spouse
or support. I'm going to say what they.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Did to take a lot of emotions going in there.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, but this is so carefully curated to make it
look like a very mutual split behind the scenes, which
is very different to the stories that are coming out.
So from looking at the document again, it's very clear
this divorce has been in the works for a very,
very long time, which is also interesting because they were
spotted together three months ago, but the amount of detail
(26:36):
that's in these documents makes you think like it's been
in the works even longer. Like when they were spotted together,
they're potentially already working through their divorce proceedings. So you've
got to put a cause for your marriage ending, and
Nicole has put that they have experienced marital difficulties and
irreconcilable differences, which is kind of the main cause that
most people put irreconcilable differences, right, okay, because the others
(26:59):
are like cheating, fraud, abuse, yes, darker.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
You can't really tell what it actually was.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yes, exactly, So they say.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
That they could be like I didn't like the way
he cheators.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
For yeah, and that is a difference, I guess. Yeah,
So you put that in there. So the couple say
they officially separate on September thirty and they list that
as their official date of separation, and there's a lot
of stuff about their custody arrangements and Nicole has been
named the primary residential parent and the plan for their
daughter's custody arrangements. I'm just gonna acknowledge it's a bit
(27:32):
icky that we even know this. Ye, it's because it's
such a personal thing involving their kids. But in the
document it says that they've agreed that the children will
spend three hundred and six days a year with Nicole
Kidman and fifty nine days of the year with Keith Urban.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Isn't that wild?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
It gets more intense than that. So Keith Urban will
have custody of their daughters on alternate weekends from Saturday
at ten am through till Sunday at six pm, and
there's no midweek swapover like they only do it like that, which.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Is interesting because have a lot of friends to her
parents who have been divorced, and when they were telling
me about like their it's usually that where like they
saw their dad every second weekend, but actually seeing the
days like that in the year, and the stark difference
of numbers.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
And then and the pickup timing tangy six and stuff.
And again, I don't know, every family's kind of different,
but also that's kind of very almost like rigid, especially
for such adult kids seventeen year old who could be
like I'm gonna go to my parents this weekend or
parents that weekend. But maybe this is just the best
way for them to work it out.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
But I remember, even before, like we even knew about
the divorce, we knew that Nicole Kidman always talked about
how much her kids love to travel because she was
always traveling and they've lived in so many different countries
like in Europe, in Asia and Australia in Nashville. Like,
if you knew that about like their kids' lives, this
doesn't seem like such a stark difference, because I feel
(28:57):
like people who didn't know that immediately thinks it's like
these are two massive celebrities who both have to travel
for work, Like he's currently touring, she's constantly in different
countries filming, Like how would that work with like kids?
And it's like that's what they've always done anyway.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, so it's not going to feel like a huge
different thing to them. And I guess this is just
what they've had to sort of put in the documents
to really kind of they've gone, yes, so intense of
the details, like he gets Father's Day every year on Thanksgiving,
they get alternate years. Nicole Kidman's going to have them
for Christmas on the odd numbered years, and he's having
to have them on the even numbers. They've divided up
all of their school holidays. What's also interesting is that
(29:34):
they have in the divorce document an agreement that they've
both signed that they will never speak badly of each
other or any members of their family, and that they
will encourage their children to love the other parent and
be comfortable in both families.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I've never seen that in documents.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, it's just yeah, it's like that's in the divorce
proceedings that they are not allowed to speak badly of
each other. I guess when you're so public, you have
to lean into that side of it.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
This is also even if that happens, can they sue
each other?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Well, like it's a legal document, I guess, so, we'll guess.
It would just kind of change the terms of their
divorce proceedings. It also says in there that they have
both been met d to attend a parenting seminar within
sixty days of the divorce filing.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Well, I guess it's just to kind of go over
all the details, like a seminar. Maybe it's just something
that the court's put in place. And I don't know
that was a different one for me. I haven't seen that.
Some sort of mediation. Yeah, yeah, I think that's what
it is, Like a mediation. Neither of them will pay
each other any alimony or spousal support.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I found that really interested you because I feel like
when it comes to these celebrity divorce proceedings, that's the
first thing I look for because you are obviously so
separate from it as the public, because you're seeing these
two ultra rich people who both have so much money.
And I think it's still interesting how it feels like
such a common man battle of like who pays who
(30:56):
and how much do you pay? And you still see
the celebrities doing it, and it's like in the millions
of dollars exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Sometimes you think, like, why are these celebrities fighting out
in court like that's what everyone is saying.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Seems like such a private detail as well.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, but I guess sometimes when it comes down, it's
all relative to what your wealth is. I mean, that's
why people thought it was so wild that Brad Pitt
and Angelina Jolly dragged each other through the courts for
so many years, not just about their custody arrangements, which
is fair enough, like when you both have such different
views you have to go to a court, but over
their winery and their assets and everything. And everyone was like,
oh my god, just isn't it worth you're so rich
(31:28):
just to lose a bit of the money to not
be dragging all this public information out into the world.
But I guess at the end of the day, even
if you're rich, you're like, I still want to keep
my money. That's me you stay rich. So this was
the other interesting thing in there is that they don't
hold any joint assets, so there's no real estate or anything.
There's pretty much nothing there to there's no big assets
(31:49):
to divide up. And it sounds like they don't own property,
but they actually own property. They don't have any property
that like that beautiful house that Nicole Gimman did her
like Vogue seventy three questions in or they're like very
famous Nashville residents. It's all owned through businesses and trusts.
Must be a tax right off situation. So there's nothing
in their names.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
But they actually don't have joint assets.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Well no, no, they have some joint assets, they don't
have any joint big assets, like all of their properties
are not in their names. So they said they've already
divided those up. They said they are both responsible for
their own debts. And I was like, what kind of
did are you guys in on that does my business?
But they said they've even divided up their hotel, airline
(32:33):
and credit card points.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, that's so Australian.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
It's Australian, I think we are. So I'll give you
the house, the Nashville home. I'll take Christmas, you take Thanksgiving,
but I'm taking my airline point.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
When it comes to Quantus frequent flyers like, we are
so addicted to our airline points, like Velocity frequent flyers
like I feel like everyone everyone I talked to it
knows exactly how much points they had because we're so far.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, COLCM is flying from Australia to Nashville back and forth.
That woman's got so many airlines.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I'd give my points in the colcmen if she really
needed that, had me too? Come on, She's like because
just like like when I read that, I was like,
this is so Australia. I know Americans like People Magazine
are looking through that going what.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
The heck a one point? Yeah, hotel points, credit card
bills again, what's all this far?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Guys like it takes us like a long time to
see the rest of the world, and it's a lot
of money.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Exactly. You just know that She's like, I got those
points and I'm not giving them to you.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Keith Herbans, I had to move to Vietnam, I had
to do this.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I had to go to Singapore, I had to go
to Europe. So everything else they say, And this is
what makes me think that this must have been in
the works for We only did really top line the
custody arrangements there, but there's pages and pages and pages
of they have every holiday, every day, every moment of
these young girls' lives is being divided between her parents
in such meticulous detail that you think this must have
(33:59):
been in the works for a long time. And the
other thing that it says in the divorce proceedings is
that they have already divided up all of their furniture,
all of their art, their vehicles, and all of their
personal belongings from all of their different homes from their
over twenty years, like.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Personal belonging, So I'm thinking things like photo album. Yeah,
like that would be so meticulous, Like I guess they
have assistance to do that for them. Yeah, but I
also think, like Sunday Rosen Faith, that's Mums, that's Dad,
that's Mums.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
That's that they have multiple homes too, is the other thing.
So again, it kind of feels to everyone that was
so sudden, and I guess it was because we didn't
really know, but it does feel like this has been
in the works a lot lot longer for.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, it seems very planned out.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, so I would say that we're going six months
at least, maybe even like over a year that they
were publicly together. Obviously we have no idea and we'll
never know, but it feels like sometimes when they were
very publicly together that behind the scenes, they were already
working through the details of their divorce proceedings, so that
the day it was leaked and they were able to file,
(35:05):
everything is already so meticulously, carefully planned out that their
divorce will just go straight through and then nothing else
can be made published really once that's done.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, celebrities are so much stronger than I am.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Well, I just think that if you look at just
the scrutiny they've already had, just look at also all
the gossip that's flying around at the moment about them.
I mean, it was only two days ago that all
these sources from like People, magazine and stuff, who usually
have the right story, all these sources were saying she's
been desperately trying to save the marriage. She tried to
make it work. But this proves that that's not true. Because
if she was desperately trying to save the marriage, why
(35:39):
has she divided up her airline miles already and all
their furniture and their children, who they obviously you know,
has been like the center of like trying to make
this like a smooth divorce.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
She's so like I would struggle so hard doing the
public thing while facing this in private, Like, she's so
much I could never do that, Like Keith Urban if
he was like to me, I love your baby girls, Like,
oh well, I guess the divorces.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Off yeah again and have to go and like, divide
up those paintings.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
When he gets home and he's like, I think I'm
gonna take that, I'm like no.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
It's when the public scrutiny has been so intense because
they've obviously gone to such lengths to make it look
like everything's like we will never talk badly about each other,
we love our children. Everything's being divided. It's like Nicole
Kimmen and Keith Urban like screaming from the rooftops, like
there's no story here, and people are trying to invent
a story because that's what exactly. There's all those things
about her being a workaholic and that's why he left her,
(36:28):
and that she was begging to save the marriage, like
that's been a rumor. And then there's the rumor that
he's already found another young, hot girlfriend and that's the
reason that then.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
We start digging, right then we start looking at past
interviews through a different lens. Yeah, Like I'm seeing that
interview of her on Jimmy Fallon constantly on my feet,
and that happened years ago. They were kind of having
that joke about them nearly dating, and then Keith came
in and she was sitting on his Lap like it
was like those kind of interviews and when he hung
up on that radio show when they asked him about
Nicole and I think zac Efron it was that movie
(36:58):
where she was with sacking from So like all these
celebrities are getting tired in, Like Zach and Jimmy are like,
please leave us out of this, and it's like that's
what everyone's going to do now. They're going to go
through their history and the like eye and they look
at it through and another. It was so long ago, Jimmy,
I'm pretty sure it was so long ago that I
watched it on TV.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, I didn't even watch it. It was not in
the old one mirror office, but the one before.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
That, and that's old.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
That's old.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
We've been here for a long time.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
That's what we're recording in this little box in the
old office that we called the Choky Jack. That's how
That's how I tell time. So that I don't think
we should bring Jimmy fallon his wife Nancy into this, and.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Jimmy probably be like, oh god, yeah, he's.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Like I've had enough of this. But yeah, it's kind
of very Italian. There's also people, there's all these rumors
saying that like there was a drug clause in their
preenup agreement and all these things, and that Nicole Kimon
was allowed to leave him if he did this, like
all of these so many wild rumors, and I want
to get into like the most intense of them, because
it's just a lot of cheating and stuff. And so
it's like that's happening on one side, and you.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Know, like their daughters are old enough, like especially Sunday Rose,
who has her own Instagram and making her own profile.
Now she would be seeing everything, yes, and that's just
like there's something about your parents he should not be saying.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah. I think that's why they've gone on the defensive
with this, just coming straight out the gate was like,
we filed and everything's fine, everything's perfect, We have a
legal clause that we have to be nice to each other.
Take that gossip people shut out everyone. Yeah, that's every
little shocking detail from Nicole Kidmen's divorce filings. Intense as
it is. So it's not nice. But hopefully now that's
(38:30):
kind of the stories move on fast, like now that
that's done, it's kind of been confirmed.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Now we're ready for practical magic too.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, oh my God, bring on practical magic.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Because that in the court, in the cold documents, because
I don't need to know a real esse date.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
The release dates, and then I know, yeah, I will
be cheering Nicole kimmen On through that because I just
love prose and actress and she's got practical magic to
look forward to. What else do we as do? We? Well?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
If you love listening to us, I know we told
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We're on TikTok and on Instagram as the Spill Podcast.
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see you tomorrow morning for weekend watch.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Bye bye
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