August 21, 2025 • 24 mins
The wild feud between Andy Samberg and Seth Meyers' dog Frisbee has taken an unexpected, and tragic turn.
Plus, Julia Fox has revealed why she's done living for the male gaze, as well as all the plastic surgery she now regrets. And Aubrey Plaza has spoken out for the first time since losing her husband Jeff Baena, getting vulnerable about she’s coping with grief while staying out of the spotlight.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
From Mamma Maya. Welcome to this bill, your daily pop
culture fix. I'm Kissania lu.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Kidd and I'm Laura Brodnick.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Today on the show, Aubrey Plaza opens up about her
grief after losing her husband, and we're going to get
into that, and we'll also be talking about Julia Fox's
regrets on plastic surgery.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
But first, something a bit lighter and brighter.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
For us, kind of something a bit lighter and brighter.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
A dog has died after a good.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm sorry, this is like such a depressing show that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
She lived a good long wife. A warrior in the
pop culture space has fallen. I should say Frisbee Meyer's,
the dog of Seth Meyers has very sadly passed away.
Seth and ounced after many many years, and Seth put
up a beautiful tribute saying There's no one I'd rather
go gray with and shared some beautiful photos. Now, normally,
(01:20):
if you're a fan of Seth or a friend, this
would be sad news. But it wouldn't normally be taking
over the news cycle the way it has and taking
overyone's feeds, and everyone's talking about it, and like Frisbee's
death has been trending the last few days. That wouldn't
normally be the case for a dog, even a celebrity dog,
except for the fact that Frisbee had a very famous enemy.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yes, now, Frisbee was fourteen when she passed, and from
the days she came home with Seth, Andy Samberg hated her.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Andy Samberg hated this dog in a way that would
normally be a level of hatred reserved for like your
long term school yard bully, someone had wronged your family,
someone who had taken a job from you.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
This kind of bit has been going for so long
to the point where, like Andy has talked about because
he compared to a rat.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Now, Frisbee was an Italian Greyhound.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
So one of his quips was he was going to
take a rat onto the Seth Meyers show and be like, here, look,
I got a new dog to make fun of him.
But the timing of all of this is what's really
like freaking people out. One is about a month ago
Andy Samberg was on Amy Polar's podcast and Amy Poler
(02:34):
played a trick on him, saying, Frisbee is dead, do
you have anything to say? And Andy was like, oh,
shut up, don't even joke. I would be so happy.
And then the other queen kitting is that August eighteenth
was his birthday, So Frisbee died like the day after
his birthday.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, it was Frisbee's ultimate revenge. Because the whole thing
started because Andy Samberg and Seth Meyers obviously very long
term friends, and it would just be this ongoing bit
where he called him a rat carcass. Both their wives
got involved to the point where Seth at one stage said,
because the thing is, they knew that Frisbee was nearing
the end of her life because she's a very old dog,
and Seth was saying to her his wife that maybe
they could send Andy the bones of Frisbee when she
(03:14):
did pass as a kind of a you know, an
ultimate fuck you to Andy Samberg, and Seth Meyer's wife
was like, I don't even know how you think we're
going to get the bones, and I'm pretty much over
this feud. But as time went on, Frisbee were a
lot of appearances on like different talk shows and different zooms,
and the thing is like she also hated Andy because
you see this dog on all these different appearances, and
(03:35):
she would like be very friendly to other celebrities, but
every time she saw Andy Samberg she would turn away,
which led Seth Meyers to share the people announcement of
Frisbee's death, which said that Andy Samberg hated her, and
Seth Myers retweeted that with the comment, well, Frisbee hated him.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Too, That's great, good on him.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
My favorite comment on the post was people like, I
hope that she haunts Andy Samberg.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Fall Well, I think that's why her death was announced
around his birthday. I mean, that doesn't feel like a mistake.
At the time of recording, Andy Samberg has yet to comment.
I mean, I'm sure he's reached out to Seth privately
to kind of mourn the loss of his long term nemesis.
And also, I do feel for Andy Samberg because we
see this in like a lot of superhero movies and things,
when the hero like defeats their enemy, like they're left
(04:20):
with an emptiness like who's he going to feud with?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Now? I don't know who's going to consume his thoughts now?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I'm sure there are lots of other shaking Italian greyhounds.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Around the rip for his beat anyway, missy el.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
So. This week, Julia Fox has done an interview with
Allure magazine and has kind of made a couple of
revelations about her life and more importantly about like where
she's sort of going. But one of the big key
takeaways from this interview was her regrets about her plastic surgery.
She's opened up about getting write a plastic lip posuction,
(04:57):
botox fillers and all of that sort of thing. She
basically says that she did that as a way to
appeal to the male gaze, and she wants to really
move away from that, and the whole interview is about
her sort of growing up and averting away from that
male gaze. So her quote was, I was so hung
(05:19):
up on the idea that I needed to be attractive
to men so that I could survive.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
She's thirty five.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
As a fellow thirty five year old, there is this
real shift where like, if your sexuality is something that
is all you are appreciated for in your youth and
you're trying to hold onto that, there is this real
shift as you become a mother as you age, where
you kind of have to figure out are you going
(05:45):
to try and keep going in that direction or you're
going to just embrace the aging process. And it sounds
like Julia Fox really wants to kind of embrace a
new chapter in her life. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I mean I find everything Julia Fox says so fascinating
because she's in this moment the last couple of years,
and she moved into being a different kind of eat
girl around just dropping these truth bombs of like, yeah,
I call the paparazzi and I do these walks to
make sure they get a proper outfit, or I did
this thing with Kanne for a publicity stunt, or this
is what my apartment looks like and it doesn't look
the way other people show theirs on Instagram like she
(06:19):
does put out these little revelations. The part about survival
I found interesting because if you've read her book, I mean,
she has had the wildest life, but it was especially
in her younger years, shaped by like older boyfriends or
men treating her badly, or people giving her opportunities in
movies and films. I mean, obviously it's a lot more
complex than there's just one kind of takeaway, but people
(06:40):
giving her all these opportunities or attention, both positive and
negative because of the way she looked. So I can
see how if you have this entry from like living
in this like smaller poor family, raised by a single parent,
all these things she was going through, if you have
this entry into this big, glamorous world of Hollywood and
fashion and stuff, if there was a way to change
(07:01):
the way you look to get into that world, which
is kind of what she did, that you would take
it and then have regrets as an adult because you'd
completely changed your face.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, And I mean, look, I don't think she looks
that different to what she was when she was younger.
But I understood the sentiment behind it is she did
that not because of her. She did that to please
the people around her. And that's what she talks about regretting.
She says, I always feel so jealous about the women
who say they haven't had anything done at my age, and.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I just feel a lot of jealousy for that.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
She goes on to say in the article that she
hasn't had anything done recently.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
She's open to it. She may do something.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Later down the line, but something that I really wanted
to before we get into the other bit that I
really loved about the interview. When you're young and hot,
it's like that's your identity. Then you're like, shit, I
need to stay young and hot. And that was just
something that was like what you were saying before. It
was just like this grasping onto that part of her life.
(08:03):
I love how candid she is, Like she's just so unfiltered.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
She's thrown on me.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's to an extent.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
She has kind of changed a look and like there
was a time where she was like this ultimate traditional
male fantasy of like the very sexualized look, tight dress
was all that sort of stuff, and over the last
few years she's gone more into that like old school
kind of man repell a thing of like wearing like
the dress that looked like it was the body hair
and bleaching her eyebrows and the claws and all these
things that are still like very sexual but kind of
(08:31):
away from that traditional beauty. And if you read the
comments or under all these posts, there's comments from men
who say things like, oh, you used to be hot,
now you're not. Now you just look like a creature.
You look terrible. I've got to say, read this article.
One of my takeaways, and I'm having this a lot
recently as I get older, is like I'm kind of
happy I was never hot or like traditionally beautiful, because
then I see these women in kind of like her
and in Hollywood who are now having this like huge
(08:52):
panic because they were always told their looks of their
currency and what happens when that's taken away from you.
And I feel like she's a lot more to offer
because she's such an interesting writer and podcaster and all
these things, but like that must be such a huge
thing to be like you're held up here because you're beautiful,
and it has an exploration date.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I was a model when I was eighteen, and that
was my currency for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And that was what made me valuable.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
So I really relate to that a lot, because as
you particularly.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Becoming a mother, your body changes.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It's a really interesting shift because I remember when I
got pregnant and people weren't looking at me anymore, and
I was like confused, and it sounds a little bit conceited,
but I find know what you're saying. I think it's
just because I spent my whole youth in that world
and that was what the most important thing was, and
then it wasn't. And now I'm a mum and like
(09:48):
that isn't the most important. The way my body looks
is not the most important thing anymore, and I'm like
happy with how I look. I think I felt up
pretty bloody good. I feel good about myself. But that
shift is what Julia Fox is talking about, and it
is a really interesting I think it hits some women
harder than others if.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
You've always been told so, if that's where your actual
cash livelihood was coming from. And I don't want to
be someone who's like, oh, I feel bad for like
supermodels and Hollywood actresses and stuff, because there's obviously a
lot of layers there. But it is just something that
I've come to realize the last couple of years as
I see like groups of women or even just groups
of women who I know who aren't super famous, who
have like their looks have been a big part of
their currency and why people have told them they're special,
(10:31):
and how stressful that is when that starts to be
taken away from you, even if it's not physically taken
away from you, just people being like, well, you're this
age now or you don't look like you did when
you're at eighteen, And so I do feel a kind
of comfort because I don't have any stress about my
face or body changing as I get older because it
was never a kind of thing. But that's why I
find this kind of honesty from Julia Fox where she's
(10:52):
like talking about regret from plastic surgery. So you think
the next part of the interview is her saying, like,
I'm never going to do that again. I'm not touching
my face, I'm not plumping it with fillers, all that
sort of stuff, and then then for her to say,
but I'm probably going to have more stuff done in
the future because she just knows that like, once you're
in that cycle to an extent, the way the world
is going, you kind of almost do have.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
To have it done, which is refreshing.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
But also I think it's like one of those things
where you want to be embrace your aging and blah
blah blah, but like we're allowed to mourt it and
still try and like mature and feel good about that.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
But I think there's a good takeaway from this is
that she's talking about getting extensive plastic surgery in her
early twenties, which I do think not extensive, but you
know a lot of stuff that she looks back, suction's same,
oh yeah, exactly, and the amount of feeler and the
amount of like botox and things when a lot of
people say, like in your early twenties, like you should
really just not be touching your face. And I think
that's really important because we're seeing now at this moment
(11:48):
in time, this huge push of like very very young
women who one probably don't need anything, and two definitely
can't afford it, especially in this economy, to be pumping
their faces with all of these different things, having these surgeries,
having their faces altered, especially if you're in your early twenties,
like your face hasn't finished developing yet, hasn't finished forming.
And I think a lot of people will have a
(12:09):
lot of especially young women, have a lot of regret
around the amount of work they got done because, like
Julia Fox, they thought they had to and then they
get to their mid thirties and like I didn't have to,
and I have regrets. So I hope that's the part
of the article that people are reading.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I hope so too.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And this is absolutely nothing against like surgery I'm so
for doing things to make yourself feel better. But I
think the really really young women doing that extensive work,
I think that can be really dangerous.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
The thing.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
The best thing about aging is that you do, like
things become clearer, like the wisdom you have, Like I
feel so much better now in my late thirties than
I did in my twenties. And I think if you're
in your late thirties, forties, fifties, you can make a
more educated decision around something like that. But in my
early twenties, I don't know what I was doing, and
you should be blowing that money on like holidays or
(12:58):
even just like being able to buy yourself food and
that sort of stuff, and not your face. And so
I think, like a lot of people listen to Julia Fox,
like especially a lot of young women, and so I
hope that's the takeaway along with all the crazy stuff
that she always says.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, so PSA from Julia Fox, just.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Think about it, That's what's she's like. I wish I
just thought about it a bit more. Not that it's
wrong to have it like you're saying. It's more like
she's just saying she wish she's taken a beat and
know one herself better. I love how Amy Poula's podcast
has appeared twice in this episode.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
No, and not on purpose.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I mean, she's just talking about the current things, the
death of Frisbee because she's got that whole joke. And
this week she had her very very good friend and
past colleague on Parks and Red, Aubrey Plaza, on her
podcast Good Hang. And I know, like some sad bits
have obviously been pulled out of it. We're going to
talk about that, But overall, it was such a delight
to hear these two women back together because they're both
(13:51):
such comedy powerhouses. They've been friends for such a long time.
They have a relationship like sometimes like you can only
get an interview out of someone if you've been their
best friend for over twenty years.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
And that's what they have.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And I think that comes from the fact that Aubrey's
very first role was on Parks and Ray with Amy.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Pohla and that show.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
If you ever need to like bring yourself out of
some sadness, go watch bloopers from Parks and rec Yeah,
it is like my favorite ultimate just like make me happy.
But I'm a massive, massive fan of Parks and rac
and Aubrey plant that was her very first role like that.
PA role of Ron's was not supposed to be like that,
(14:32):
but Aubrey came in, did the audition and just blew
them away seed. So basically when we started the podcast,
it's not the brightest way to start, Yeah, I mean,
it was always going to be a difficult topic. So
she's on the podcast to promote her new movie, Honey Don't,
which I'm so excited to see when it finally comes
out in Australia soon, and they were going to talk
(14:52):
about I I thought all along and all her other
roles and their friendship.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But Amy Paula did something really smart, which again is
something I think you can only do if you have
a relationship already, is that she knew the thing that
everyone want to know shut off the bat was how
Aubrey was doing nearly seven months after the death of
her husband by suicide, Jeff Banner, which was reported at
the time via a statement from his family. They had
(15:16):
had like a semi public romance because they were long
term collaborators. Aubrey had told these beautiful stories about how
long they mean together and how they had survived like
lockdowns and COVID and everything together, how it had brought
them closer, how they got spur of the moment, married
in their.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Backyard, all these things.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So there was a lot of public investment in their romance,
and obviously people love Aubrey Plaza and so the news
of his death was really shocking for fans, and we
haven't seen Aubrey that much. She made a small cameo
at the SNL fiftieth birthday celebrations, and what was really
sad about that is that she was wearing a tied
eyed T shirt under her blazer, which if you kind
(15:54):
of knew about her relationship with her husband, is that
Ti dying is something they had sort of got into
together over COVID to keep themselves sane, and so that
was kind of like having a piece of him with
her at the time. So she hasn't really spoken about it,
and at the very top of the episode, Amy you
can see that she's just like, we're going to talk
about straight away in a really loving way and then
we can move on to other stuff and ask her
(16:14):
how she's feeling, and her response was really lovely, how.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Are you feeling today?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
I'm I mean, right in this very very present moment,
I feel happy to be with you. I feel overall
I'm here and I'm functioning, and I feel, you know,
like I feel really grateful to be moving through the world.
(16:43):
I think like I'm okay, but you know, it's like
a a daily struggle. Obviously this is like a really dominology.
But and it was kind of a joke at a
certain point, but like I actually mean it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Did you see that movie.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
The Gorge No, okay, horror movie.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
It's like a alien movie or something with like miles,
but it's like in the movie, there's like a cliff
on one side, and then there's like a cliff on
the other side, and then there's like gorge in between,
and it's like filled with all these like monster people
that are trained to get them. And like I swear
when I watched it, I was like, that is like
(17:27):
feels like what my grief is like.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That movie is kind of a silly movie, got panned.
It was like a sci fi movie, and I loved it.
Like it's kind of like but it's not like it's
like a really big serious one. But no, no, no, But
I actually do think that analogy on grief is quite
poignant because you think about when you drop down and
then you've got to climb back up the mountain. We
know that life is full of peaks and troughs. I mean,
(17:51):
they were together since twenty eleven, Like, yeah, it was
a long term relationship. They had separated at the end
of twenty twenty four into September, but as far as
we know, like Aubrey had received a text from him
three hours before his death by suicide, so they were
clearly still in a relationship despite that sort of separation.
(18:14):
It's a very honest response, a very like yeah, I
guess I'm okay, but I think grief is like.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That, grief hits you.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And a little bit later on in the interview, she
talks about grief being like a pool that's there, that's
always there. Sometimes you just want to dive in and
let it consume you. At other times it's just done
the periphery. And I just thought that was a really
lovely way to explain it, and it was honest, and
you could see Amy really empathizing with her friend.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And again, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I don't think that that question would have had this
same answer from a journal, it's like your r I
you know, it wouldn't have had that same gravitas and
emotional rawness to it.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, I just think if one of us was interoing her,
you'd have to really lean into and build up something
like that, whereas like a friendship, you can sort of
ask it at the top and get it out of
the way. I always thought it was a really beautiful
way to just grief, and I also just I really
feel for her in this moment, not just because of
what she's gone through, but because even though Aubrey Plaza
is a very public person, she doesn't like talking about
(19:21):
her private life. She doesn't like, I guess, being her
real self in public, and that's why I often when
she does press tours and interviews, she comes out in
a costume, she plays a character, she tells these wild
stories like she is. She's always a comedian, like she's
always on. She doesn't usually do these kind of quiet moments,
and I felt that she was very uncomfortable in that
moment sharing her grief with the world because it's not
(19:43):
what she would choose to do if she had the choice,
but because she's in the public eye, she had to.
And I also don't love the way that we critique
people in the public eye or really anyone actually of
how they show grief, Like are they showing them the
right way? Are they showing it enough as some you know,
there's some people being like, oh, but she didn't look
that sad, She wasn't really crying. Some people don't even
like that she mentioned the gorge, which I hate because
(20:04):
they're like, oh, that's such a silly movie, and why
would you compare your husband's death to such a silly movie,
And like, yeah, it is a silly movie, even.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Though I quite liked it.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Miles Teller's on one side of the gorge on your
tell Joys on the other, they're assassins. They're guarding both
sides of this gorge. They don't know what's down there.
They have what I think is one of the cutest
love stories I've seen the last few years, because they
fall in love across the gorge, and yes, then they
have to battle monsters. But her analogy of like they're
having this like life on the surface, which is quite cute,
but there's this thing lurking below that's always going to
(20:35):
come up and get them at some stage is what
grief films.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It's actually I actually think it's really bright and in
depth and pointing it and you know, the monster that
sits It's the same kind of analogy that people use
when they talk about depression. Is that that monster that
sort of sits sitting underneath and all of a sudden
it will rear its ugly head. That's what she's talking about.
She's not talking about the movie and it being comparable
(20:59):
to her husband. Come on, guys, yeah, and like leave
the woman alone, like her not sobbing.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I don't think is.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I know many people who, when they have dealt with grief,
become quite stoic, Like I cried the drop of a hat.
If you ask me how it's doing today, I'd probably
start crying because I just.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I live on the surf. But some people are a
little bit more.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
If someone asked me that seven months after my husband died,
I'd be in tears. But Aubrey just was like, I'm okay, yeah,
I'm not happy, yeah, but I'm getting through.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I think what people wanted from her was like when
this idea of like how are you doing, what they
wanted to know was like what are you doing? Like
are you still crying every day, Like are you feeling
this feeling that I think people wanted like a concrete answer,
and instead she likened it to a movie, which ties
into what she says later in the episode where she
talks about the fact that she loves movies so much
(21:50):
and making movies that it's kind of become the one
thing in her life. Like she gives this really beautiful
quote that she's like, I love movies so much.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
That's all I need. I don't need people, I just
need movies.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And I think that's very telling that she used a
movie to describe her grief instead of letting people in.
But yeah, I never like this idea of like critiquing
how someone grieves and if they're grieving the right way,
they're acting the right way, and all this sort of stuff,
especially when she was more emotional than she would have
ever wanted to be on a public platform.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Absolutely, and that could just very well be her personality. Yeah,
but you know, I thought it was brave and beautifully spoken,
and you know, wish her all the best, and they're
really excited to see what's a new movie about.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Oh it's her and Margaret Qualley, who pops up at
the beginning. So because at the top of every good
Hanging episode with Amy Poehler, they get like a friend
or family member of the person who's being interviewed to
pop in on screen and ask them a question. And
so it's like kind of like a love story, well
not a love story, but between her and Margaret Quali
in Honey Don't and Margaret pops up and she's like,
I'm so sorry. There's only one thing I can think
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to ask Aubrey, and it's what was the Salem witch
Trials like? And then in the interview, in the interview,
Aubrey brings up the Salem witch Trials, completely unprompted, and
then Amy starts laughing and she's like, well, that's really
funny because that was Margaret Colly's question of like, what
were the witch trials like? And Aubrey first of all
says she's a bit and they were fun, they were great.
(23:13):
It was a whole fewr shoes connect as all wide. Anyway,
it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
What is so crazy sho meet The amount of times
witchcraft and witchery comes up on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I know, I wish we had a witchcraft podcast. Writing
if you'd like that to happen, because I would love
to host that. Obviously, the grief part of this podcast
is no one that's making headlines. But I do recommend
everyone going listen to the full podcast because they talk
a lot about parks and rec they talk a lot
about other funny things and their careers and their friendship
and it's just a really beautiful listen overall, Like grief
has touched on, but there's a lot more to Aubrey
(23:43):
Plaster than that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
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for you and you need a little bit of extra help,
please take a look at the show notes. We've got
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From Mamma Maya. Welcome to this bill, your daily pop
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
Kidd and I'm Laura Brodnick.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Today on the show, Aubrey Plaza opens up about her
grief after losing her husband, and we're going to get
into that, and we'll also be talking about Julia Fox's
regrets on plastic surgery.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
But first, something a bit lighter and brighter.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
For us, kind of something a bit lighter and brighter.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
A dog has died after a good.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm sorry, this is like such a depressing show that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
She lived a good long wife. A warrior in the
pop culture space has fallen. I should say Frisbee Meyer's,
the dog of Seth Meyers has very sadly passed away.
Seth and ounced after many many years, and Seth put
up a beautiful tribute saying There's no one I'd rather
go gray with and shared some beautiful photos. Now, normally,
(01:20):
if you're a fan of Seth or a friend, this
would be sad news. But it wouldn't normally be taking
over the news cycle the way it has and taking
overyone's feeds, and everyone's talking about it, and like Frisbee's
death has been trending the last few days. That wouldn't
normally be the case for a dog, even a celebrity dog,
except for the fact that Frisbee had a very famous enemy.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yes, now, Frisbee was fourteen when she passed, and from
the days she came home with Seth, Andy Samberg hated her.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Andy Samberg hated this dog in a way that would
normally be a level of hatred reserved for like your
long term school yard bully, someone had wronged your family,
someone who had taken a job from you.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
This kind of bit has been going for so long
to the point where, like Andy has talked about because
he compared to a rat.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Now, Frisbee was an Italian Greyhound.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
So one of his quips was he was going to
take a rat onto the Seth Meyers show and be like, here, look,
I got a new dog to make fun of him.
But the timing of all of this is what's really
like freaking people out. One is about a month ago
Andy Samberg was on Amy Polar's podcast and Amy Poler
(02:34):
played a trick on him, saying, Frisbee is dead, do
you have anything to say? And Andy was like, oh,
shut up, don't even joke. I would be so happy.
And then the other queen kitting is that August eighteenth
was his birthday, So Frisbee died like the day after
his birthday.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, it was Frisbee's ultimate revenge. Because the whole thing
started because Andy Samberg and Seth Meyers obviously very long
term friends, and it would just be this ongoing bit
where he called him a rat carcass. Both their wives
got involved to the point where Seth at one stage said,
because the thing is, they knew that Frisbee was nearing
the end of her life because she's a very old dog,
and Seth was saying to her his wife that maybe
they could send Andy the bones of Frisbee when she
(03:14):
did pass as a kind of a you know, an
ultimate fuck you to Andy Samberg, and Seth Meyer's wife
was like, I don't even know how you think we're
going to get the bones, and I'm pretty much over
this feud. But as time went on, Frisbee were a
lot of appearances on like different talk shows and different zooms,
and the thing is like she also hated Andy because
you see this dog on all these different appearances, and
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she would like be very friendly to other celebrities, but
every time she saw Andy Samberg she would turn away,
which led Seth Meyers to share the people announcement of
Frisbee's death, which said that Andy Samberg hated her, and
Seth Myers retweeted that with the comment, well, Frisbee hated him.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Too, That's great, good on him.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
My favorite comment on the post was people like, I
hope that she haunts Andy Samberg.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Fall Well, I think that's why her death was announced
around his birthday. I mean, that doesn't feel like a mistake.
At the time of recording, Andy Samberg has yet to comment.
I mean, I'm sure he's reached out to Seth privately
to kind of mourn the loss of his long term nemesis.
And also, I do feel for Andy Samberg because we
see this in like a lot of superhero movies and things,
when the hero like defeats their enemy, like they're left
(04:20):
with an emptiness like who's he going to feud with?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Now? I don't know who's going to consume his thoughts now?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I'm sure there are lots of other shaking Italian greyhounds.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Around the rip for his beat anyway, missy el.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
So. This week, Julia Fox has done an interview with
Allure magazine and has kind of made a couple of
revelations about her life and more importantly about like where
she's sort of going. But one of the big key
takeaways from this interview was her regrets about her plastic surgery.
She's opened up about getting write a plastic lip posuction,
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botox fillers and all of that sort of thing. She
basically says that she did that as a way to
appeal to the male gaze, and she wants to really
move away from that, and the whole interview is about
her sort of growing up and averting away from that
male gaze. So her quote was, I was so hung
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up on the idea that I needed to be attractive
to men so that I could survive.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
She's thirty five.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
As a fellow thirty five year old, there is this
real shift where like, if your sexuality is something that
is all you are appreciated for in your youth and
you're trying to hold onto that, there is this real
shift as you become a mother as you age, where
you kind of have to figure out are you going
(05:45):
to try and keep going in that direction or you're
going to just embrace the aging process. And it sounds
like Julia Fox really wants to kind of embrace a
new chapter in her life. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I mean I find everything Julia Fox says so fascinating
because she's in this moment the last couple of years,
and she moved into being a different kind of eat
girl around just dropping these truth bombs of like, yeah,
I call the paparazzi and I do these walks to
make sure they get a proper outfit, or I did
this thing with Kanne for a publicity stunt, or this
is what my apartment looks like and it doesn't look
the way other people show theirs on Instagram like she
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does put out these little revelations. The part about survival
I found interesting because if you've read her book, I mean,
she has had the wildest life, but it was especially
in her younger years, shaped by like older boyfriends or
men treating her badly, or people giving her opportunities in
movies and films. I mean, obviously it's a lot more
complex than there's just one kind of takeaway, but people
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giving her all these opportunities or attention, both positive and
negative because of the way she looked. So I can
see how if you have this entry from like living
in this like smaller poor family, raised by a single parent,
all these things she was going through, if you have
this entry into this big, glamorous world of Hollywood and
fashion and stuff, if there was a way to change
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the way you look to get into that world, which
is kind of what she did, that you would take
it and then have regrets as an adult because you'd
completely changed your face.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, And I mean, look, I don't think she looks
that different to what she was when she was younger.
But I understood the sentiment behind it is she did
that not because of her. She did that to please
the people around her. And that's what she talks about regretting.
She says, I always feel so jealous about the women
who say they haven't had anything done at my age, and.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I just feel a lot of jealousy for that.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
She goes on to say in the article that she
hasn't had anything done recently.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
She's open to it. She may do something.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Later down the line, but something that I really wanted
to before we get into the other bit that I
really loved about the interview. When you're young and hot,
it's like that's your identity. Then you're like, shit, I
need to stay young and hot. And that was just
something that was like what you were saying before. It
was just like this grasping onto that part of her life.
(08:03):
I love how candid she is, Like she's just so unfiltered.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
She's thrown on me.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's to an extent.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
She has kind of changed a look and like there
was a time where she was like this ultimate traditional
male fantasy of like the very sexualized look, tight dress
was all that sort of stuff, and over the last
few years she's gone more into that like old school
kind of man repell a thing of like wearing like
the dress that looked like it was the body hair
and bleaching her eyebrows and the claws and all these
things that are still like very sexual but kind of
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away from that traditional beauty. And if you read the
comments or under all these posts, there's comments from men
who say things like, oh, you used to be hot,
now you're not. Now you just look like a creature.
You look terrible. I've got to say, read this article.
One of my takeaways, and I'm having this a lot
recently as I get older, is like I'm kind of
happy I was never hot or like traditionally beautiful, because
then I see these women in kind of like her
and in Hollywood who are now having this like huge
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panic because they were always told their looks of their
currency and what happens when that's taken away from you.
And I feel like she's a lot more to offer
because she's such an interesting writer and podcaster and all
these things, but like that must be such a huge
thing to be like you're held up here because you're beautiful,
and it has an exploration date.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I was a model when I was eighteen, and that
was my currency for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And that was what made me valuable.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
So I really relate to that a lot, because as
you particularly.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Becoming a mother, your body changes.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It's a really interesting shift because I remember when I
got pregnant and people weren't looking at me anymore, and
I was like confused, and it sounds a little bit conceited,
but I find know what you're saying. I think it's
just because I spent my whole youth in that world
and that was what the most important thing was, and
then it wasn't. And now I'm a mum and like
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that isn't the most important. The way my body looks
is not the most important thing anymore, and I'm like
happy with how I look. I think I felt up
pretty bloody good. I feel good about myself. But that
shift is what Julia Fox is talking about, and it
is a really interesting I think it hits some women
harder than others if.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
You've always been told so, if that's where your actual
cash livelihood was coming from. And I don't want to
be someone who's like, oh, I feel bad for like
supermodels and Hollywood actresses and stuff, because there's obviously a
lot of layers there. But it is just something that
I've come to realize the last couple of years as
I see like groups of women or even just groups
of women who I know who aren't super famous, who
have like their looks have been a big part of
their currency and why people have told them they're special,
(10:31):
and how stressful that is when that starts to be
taken away from you, even if it's not physically taken
away from you, just people being like, well, you're this
age now or you don't look like you did when
you're at eighteen, And so I do feel a kind
of comfort because I don't have any stress about my
face or body changing as I get older because it
was never a kind of thing. But that's why I
find this kind of honesty from Julia Fox where she's
(10:52):
like talking about regret from plastic surgery. So you think
the next part of the interview is her saying, like,
I'm never going to do that again. I'm not touching
my face, I'm not plumping it with fillers, all that
sort of stuff, and then then for her to say,
but I'm probably going to have more stuff done in
the future because she just knows that like, once you're
in that cycle to an extent, the way the world
is going, you kind of almost do have.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
To have it done, which is refreshing.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
But also I think it's like one of those things
where you want to be embrace your aging and blah
blah blah, but like we're allowed to mourt it and
still try and like mature and feel good about that.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
But I think there's a good takeaway from this is
that she's talking about getting extensive plastic surgery in her
early twenties, which I do think not extensive, but you
know a lot of stuff that she looks back, suction's same,
oh yeah, exactly, and the amount of feeler and the
amount of like botox and things when a lot of
people say, like in your early twenties, like you should
really just not be touching your face. And I think
that's really important because we're seeing now at this moment
(11:48):
in time, this huge push of like very very young
women who one probably don't need anything, and two definitely
can't afford it, especially in this economy, to be pumping
their faces with all of these different things, having these surgeries,
having their faces altered, especially if you're in your early twenties,
like your face hasn't finished developing yet, hasn't finished forming.
And I think a lot of people will have a
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lot of especially young women, have a lot of regret
around the amount of work they got done because, like
Julia Fox, they thought they had to and then they
get to their mid thirties and like I didn't have to,
and I have regrets. So I hope that's the part
of the article that people are reading.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I hope so too.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And this is absolutely nothing against like surgery I'm so
for doing things to make yourself feel better. But I
think the really really young women doing that extensive work,
I think that can be really dangerous.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
The thing.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
The best thing about aging is that you do, like
things become clearer, like the wisdom you have, Like I
feel so much better now in my late thirties than
I did in my twenties. And I think if you're
in your late thirties, forties, fifties, you can make a
more educated decision around something like that. But in my
early twenties, I don't know what I was doing, and
you should be blowing that money on like holidays or
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even just like being able to buy yourself food and
that sort of stuff, and not your face. And so
I think, like a lot of people listen to Julia Fox,
like especially a lot of young women, and so I
hope that's the takeaway along with all the crazy stuff
that she always says.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, so PSA from Julia Fox, just.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Think about it, That's what's she's like. I wish I
just thought about it a bit more. Not that it's
wrong to have it like you're saying. It's more like
she's just saying she wish she's taken a beat and
know one herself better. I love how Amy Poula's podcast
has appeared twice in this episode.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
No, and not on purpose.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I mean, she's just talking about the current things, the
death of Frisbee because she's got that whole joke. And
this week she had her very very good friend and
past colleague on Parks and Red, Aubrey Plaza, on her
podcast Good Hang. And I know, like some sad bits
have obviously been pulled out of it. We're going to
talk about that, But overall, it was such a delight
to hear these two women back together because they're both
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such comedy powerhouses. They've been friends for such a long time.
They have a relationship like sometimes like you can only
get an interview out of someone if you've been their
best friend for over twenty years.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
And that's what they have.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And I think that comes from the fact that Aubrey's
very first role was on Parks and Ray with Amy.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Pohla and that show.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
If you ever need to like bring yourself out of
some sadness, go watch bloopers from Parks and rec Yeah,
it is like my favorite ultimate just like make me happy.
But I'm a massive, massive fan of Parks and rac
and Aubrey plant that was her very first role like that.
PA role of Ron's was not supposed to be like that,
(14:32):
but Aubrey came in, did the audition and just blew
them away seed. So basically when we started the podcast,
it's not the brightest way to start, Yeah, I mean,
it was always going to be a difficult topic. So
she's on the podcast to promote her new movie, Honey Don't,
which I'm so excited to see when it finally comes
out in Australia soon, and they were going to talk
(14:52):
about I I thought all along and all her other
roles and their friendship.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But Amy Paula did something really smart, which again is
something I think you can only do if you have
a relationship already, is that she knew the thing that
everyone want to know shut off the bat was how
Aubrey was doing nearly seven months after the death of
her husband by suicide, Jeff Banner, which was reported at
the time via a statement from his family. They had
(15:16):
had like a semi public romance because they were long
term collaborators. Aubrey had told these beautiful stories about how
long they mean together and how they had survived like
lockdowns and COVID and everything together, how it had brought
them closer, how they got spur of the moment, married
in their.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Backyard, all these things.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So there was a lot of public investment in their romance,
and obviously people love Aubrey Plaza and so the news
of his death was really shocking for fans, and we
haven't seen Aubrey that much. She made a small cameo
at the SNL fiftieth birthday celebrations, and what was really
sad about that is that she was wearing a tied
eyed T shirt under her blazer, which if you kind
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of knew about her relationship with her husband, is that
Ti dying is something they had sort of got into
together over COVID to keep themselves sane, and so that
was kind of like having a piece of him with
her at the time. So she hasn't really spoken about it,
and at the very top of the episode, Amy you
can see that she's just like, we're going to talk
about straight away in a really loving way and then
we can move on to other stuff and ask her
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how she's feeling, and her response was really lovely, how.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Are you feeling today?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
I'm I mean, right in this very very present moment,
I feel happy to be with you. I feel overall
I'm here and I'm functioning, and I feel, you know,
like I feel really grateful to be moving through the world.
(16:43):
I think like I'm okay, but you know, it's like
a a daily struggle. Obviously this is like a really dominology.
But and it was kind of a joke at a
certain point, but like I actually mean it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Did you see that movie.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
The Gorge No, okay, horror movie.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
It's like a alien movie or something with like miles,
but it's like in the movie, there's like a cliff
on one side, and then there's like a cliff on
the other side, and then there's like gorge in between,
and it's like filled with all these like monster people
that are trained to get them. And like I swear
when I watched it, I was like, that is like
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feels like what my grief is like.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That movie is kind of a silly movie, got panned.
It was like a sci fi movie, and I loved it.
Like it's kind of like but it's not like it's
like a really big serious one. But no, no, no, But
I actually do think that analogy on grief is quite
poignant because you think about when you drop down and
then you've got to climb back up the mountain. We
know that life is full of peaks and troughs. I mean,
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they were together since twenty eleven, Like, yeah, it was
a long term relationship. They had separated at the end
of twenty twenty four into September, but as far as
we know, like Aubrey had received a text from him
three hours before his death by suicide, so they were
clearly still in a relationship despite that sort of separation.
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It's a very honest response, a very like yeah, I
guess I'm okay, but I think grief is like.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That, grief hits you.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And a little bit later on in the interview, she
talks about grief being like a pool that's there, that's
always there. Sometimes you just want to dive in and
let it consume you. At other times it's just done
the periphery. And I just thought that was a really
lovely way to explain it, and it was honest, and
you could see Amy really empathizing with her friend.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And again, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I don't think that that question would have had this
same answer from a journal, it's like your r I
you know, it wouldn't have had that same gravitas and
emotional rawness to it.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, I just think if one of us was interoing her,
you'd have to really lean into and build up something
like that, whereas like a friendship, you can sort of
ask it at the top and get it out of
the way. I always thought it was a really beautiful
way to just grief, and I also just I really
feel for her in this moment, not just because of
what she's gone through, but because even though Aubrey Plaza
is a very public person, she doesn't like talking about
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her private life. She doesn't like, I guess, being her
real self in public, and that's why I often when
she does press tours and interviews, she comes out in
a costume, she plays a character, she tells these wild
stories like she is. She's always a comedian, like she's
always on. She doesn't usually do these kind of quiet moments,
and I felt that she was very uncomfortable in that
moment sharing her grief with the world because it's not
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what she would choose to do if she had the choice,
but because she's in the public eye, she had to.
And I also don't love the way that we critique
people in the public eye or really anyone actually of
how they show grief, Like are they showing them the
right way? Are they showing it enough as some you know,
there's some people being like, oh, but she didn't look
that sad, She wasn't really crying. Some people don't even
like that she mentioned the gorge, which I hate because
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they're like, oh, that's such a silly movie, and why
would you compare your husband's death to such a silly movie,
And like, yeah, it is a silly movie, even.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Though I quite liked it.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Miles Teller's on one side of the gorge on your
tell Joys on the other, they're assassins. They're guarding both
sides of this gorge. They don't know what's down there.
They have what I think is one of the cutest
love stories I've seen the last few years, because they
fall in love across the gorge, and yes, then they
have to battle monsters. But her analogy of like they're
having this like life on the surface, which is quite cute,
but there's this thing lurking below that's always going to
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come up and get them at some stage is what
grief films.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It's actually I actually think it's really bright and in
depth and pointing it and you know, the monster that
sits It's the same kind of analogy that people use
when they talk about depression. Is that that monster that
sort of sits sitting underneath and all of a sudden
it will rear its ugly head. That's what she's talking about.
She's not talking about the movie and it being comparable
(20:59):
to her husband. Come on, guys, yeah, and like leave
the woman alone, like her not sobbing.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I don't think is.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I know many people who, when they have dealt with grief,
become quite stoic, Like I cried the drop of a hat.
If you ask me how it's doing today, I'd probably
start crying because I just.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I live on the surf. But some people are a
little bit more.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
If someone asked me that seven months after my husband died,
I'd be in tears. But Aubrey just was like, I'm okay, yeah,
I'm not happy, yeah, but I'm getting through.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I think what people wanted from her was like when
this idea of like how are you doing, what they
wanted to know was like what are you doing? Like
are you still crying every day, Like are you feeling
this feeling that I think people wanted like a concrete answer,
and instead she likened it to a movie, which ties
into what she says later in the episode where she
talks about the fact that she loves movies so much
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and making movies that it's kind of become the one
thing in her life. Like she gives this really beautiful
quote that she's like, I love movies so much.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
That's all I need. I don't need people, I just
need movies.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And I think that's very telling that she used a
movie to describe her grief instead of letting people in.
But yeah, I never like this idea of like critiquing
how someone grieves and if they're grieving the right way,
they're acting the right way, and all this sort of stuff,
especially when she was more emotional than she would have
ever wanted to be on a public platform.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Absolutely, and that could just very well be her personality. Yeah,
but you know, I thought it was brave and beautifully spoken,
and you know, wish her all the best, and they're
really excited to see what's a new movie about.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Oh it's her and Margaret Qualley, who pops up at
the beginning. So because at the top of every good
Hanging episode with Amy Poehler, they get like a friend
or family member of the person who's being interviewed to
pop in on screen and ask them a question. And
so it's like kind of like a love story, well
not a love story, but between her and Margaret Quali
in Honey Don't and Margaret pops up and she's like,
I'm so sorry. There's only one thing I can think
(22:52):
to ask Aubrey, and it's what was the Salem witch
Trials like? And then in the interview, in the interview,
Aubrey brings up the Salem witch Trials, completely unprompted, and
then Amy starts laughing and she's like, well, that's really
funny because that was Margaret Colly's question of like, what
were the witch trials like? And Aubrey first of all
says she's a bit and they were fun, they were great.
(23:13):
It was a whole fewr shoes connect as all wide. Anyway,
it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
What is so crazy sho meet The amount of times
witchcraft and witchery comes up on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I know, I wish we had a witchcraft podcast. Writing
if you'd like that to happen, because I would love
to host that. Obviously, the grief part of this podcast
is no one that's making headlines. But I do recommend
everyone going listen to the full podcast because they talk
a lot about parks and rec they talk a lot
about other funny things and their careers and their friendship
and it's just a really beautiful listen overall, Like grief
has touched on, but there's a lot more to Aubrey
(23:43):
Plaster than that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
If anything that we chatted about today brought up anything
for you and you need a little bit of extra help,
please take a look at the show notes. We've got
a bunch of resources there that you can look at.
Thank you so much for listening to this Spill today guys.
This week you can get twenty percent off a Mama
Maya's subscription, and Mama Maya will match that twenty percent
and donate it to Rise Up, a charity supporting women
(24:04):
and families affected by domestic violence. This bill is produced
by Manishaswarren with sound put our action by Scott Strodok.
Will be back here in your podcast feed for weekend
Watch at six am tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
And another episode of the spill at three. Bye Bye Lin.
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