May 2, 2025 • 21 mins
On the show today, one of our hosts watched a terribly reviewed rom-com on Netflix (just a little film starring Nicole Kidman and Zac Efron) and secretly loved it.
So it got us thinking, what are the other movies that critics and fans alike agree are terrible that we still love to watch (even though we’ll never admit it out loud).
From action movies, to horror flicks and romantic comedies with A-list stars these are all the terribly reviewed movies that we secretly love.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on. From Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodnick, I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Killy McCarran, and I forgot to mention this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What did I do yesterday afternoon after we recorded our
episode about the.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Bad bakers, the baking bad?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, did I or did I not go in a
hunt in the rain for some chocolate caramel slice.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, if you saw an elegantly dressed blonde woman storming
the streets of Sydney and the rain yesterday, you're surprisingly
heavy foot breaking down. Yeah, you really are breaking down
doors and demanding bake treats. It was because yesterday, if
you've missed that episode, we did a big breakdown on
the allegations between Recipe he Eats and Bake with Brookie,
amongst other things. Yeah, amongst other things that us all
(01:06):
a hankering. Well, they kept talking about caramel' slife. It
was very lovely. Thank you for getting for us. But
on the Spill today, Yes, on the Spill today, we
are talking about the badly reviewed movies, the movies that
the critics just simply hated and told the world not
to watch, that we secretly secretly love.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Or not so secretly, because we're admitting it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
We're going to admit it now, just just between us
and the spill. And it is that the same time,
I'd say it. So the reason that.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Is spill on the spill, the reason how this came about, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It just let me ruin my own career quickly. So
over the East Long weekend, I was spending time with family,
and I was with my sister at my mum's place,
and we wanted to just watch a movie after like
you know, the craziness of Easter Sunday, we're going through
the movies. We've both seen everything, every movie.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
In the entire world, and we wanted something to try too,
and like we do love a movie rewatch, but sometimes
you just want to watch something a bit new, but
also something that didn't need our attention.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And we were scanning through Netflix and a little movie
called A Family Affair popped up. If that name rings
a bet, we well, actually it probably doesn't, because it
came out when a lot of different rom coms about
older women and younger men were being released around the
same period. I think a lot of people were running
them together. But A Family Affair came out last year
on Netflix and it stars Nicole Kidman, Zac Efron, Joey King,
(02:24):
and Kathy Baits. So two oscar Win isn't there, which
sign it should have been good. So when this movie
came out last year, everyone was like, it's shit pretty much.
Critics said it was terrible. Viewers said it was terrible.
A lot of people watched it. I didn't because I
think I was away or I signed someone else on
the team. You know, when you're the boss you can
do that. And I was like, I'm not spending my
time watching a shit movie if I don't have to
watch it for work. And people said it was schlocky,
(02:47):
the script was terrible, the performance were bad. Everyone was wooden,
blah blah blah. So my sister I sat down to
watch it and we freaking loved it. I love that.
I thought it was so entertaining, so smaky bro smile right, yeah, yeah,
I see, I love that. And I was like, I
can't tell people I like this movie because my people
film and TV critics who.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Are a little bit snobby about it.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, well we really are. You should see us at events.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
That that movie. I'd give it to one star.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, exactly. So it's one of those movies that was
so terribly reviewed that you're not supposed to like it,
or I guess some people hate watch it. But I
can't hate watch stuff. I can't just watch it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
About the Room and then a disaster Artist the all time.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh, I know, but that's like an event when you
go and like watch those kind of movies. But I
don't sit down. I'm not homewark. You know. When at
the end of the year Netflix releases all their terrible
Christmas movies, I can't watch those. I understand why people do,
but I need to have at least an idea that
I might like a movie. So I was really pleasantly
surprised by this. If you're not across it, basically, Zecha
From plays a movie star and he's freakin funny. Sorry,
(03:49):
everyone is good. He's a really good something else said.
I thought he was really funny. He leans so far
into the bit. He's an absolute dou first, and he
plays it so well. Joey King plays his assistant, and
they have a really intense relationship because they both hate
each other, but they really need each other. Nicole Kimmen
plays Joey King's mum and she falls in love with
zach Efron, like they mean, have like a steamy romance
(04:11):
us together, and it's all very yeah, And I just
thought it was delightful. So then I started thinking, what
is it on what is on Netflix?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Okay, a family saying for a friend for the we
can Oh, no, you'll like this movie.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Maybe you'll be like, oh, some bits of a bit grating,
like obviously it's not a perfect kind of rom com,
but it's a delightful little wash. And then it got
me thinking what other movies are terribly reviewed by critics
and viewers alike that I secretly love and would watch
in my own time, Because sometimes I have really just
not the correct taste for my people, for viewers or
(04:44):
like people who are really into TV and film, And
I always like, watch something and I'll write my review first,
and then I'll go and see what other people are saying,
and sometimes I am sometimes I'm like I am on
the wrong side of the street with this one. Two
most infamous ones that people always bring up to me,
they're like, I cannot believe you gave us a good review.
And I have looked it up, and I'm one of
the like the less than one percent of reviewers internationally
(05:07):
in the entire world who gave these movies a good review.
I didn't like Cats.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You don't even like cats?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
What do you mean? Cat's the movie?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Isn't it about cats?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
That's not the point of the movie. It's like a
Broadway musical that they adapted into.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I thought it was like Pets, the movie where they
all talked cats the musical.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I've never seen it. Oh well, most people would say,
you wouldn't. I always thought it was meant to be
a completely creepy, zany, over the top musical adaptation of
a stage show that I love, even though it's not
meant to be a good stage show. And it was
exactly that, And yes it was creepy, and yes, Taylor
Swift danced in a cat suit and dropped drugs on
other cats and James it was weird. Yeah, it's people.
(05:50):
That was the whole thing. So when it came out,
it was meant to be this huge, big blockbuster and
it was reviewed as like the worst movie of the
last ten years.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
No, why people don't like cats, That's why I'm killing
That's not what I'm still I'm still stuck on this
cats thing because even if they're just humans dressed up
as cats, well, that people don't like cats, well, that's.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
What they are on the stage show. That's not why
people didn't like the movie it is. It's because it
was weird CGI on Caney Valley. It's just like human
faces floating on these weird bodies. But the songs are bangers. Anyway,
aarved it. The other movie that I gave a great
review to that everyone else in the world hated, including
the lead actress, was Madame Webb that moved to Coda.
Johnson's like, this is a bad movie and I'm the
(06:31):
star of it.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I've never even heard of it. It was was it about?
Is it Charlotte's web but the mother?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Ouh not even close? Not even You.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Have an episode next time m cannot come in.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Let us do a weekend episode where you tell me
what something's called it. I'll guess the synopsis.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Madame Webber is a superhero movie starring Jekota Johnson Charlotte's Mother.
As We're not even closed. It's in the Superman universe.
It came out and everyone was like, this is the
worst piece of shit we've ever ever seen. The Car
said it was bad. Dakota Johnson said it was bad.
Snie Sweeney said it was bad. I actually thought it
was quite fun. I thought it was quite a fun movie.
I loved just everything about it. And so my taste
(07:14):
cannot be trusted, is what we're getting to now. But
I thought this is a safe space and we're both
gonna share a few movies. We are. We know the
world hates, but we loved And do you want to
go first?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I feel like the world does like mine.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I feel like anyone do the assignment Well no, I
did in terms of rated poorly, yes, yes, So I
don't watch that many movies. If that was shocking, shocking
news to anyone that knows what cats in the web
movie are about. Like, I'd probably watch a handful of movies,
e of like movies not something that I've just seen before,
but when I'm like really hungover or just enjoying that
(07:49):
rare day of a rash.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I love a bad horror film.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, same, I love a bad horror film bad one specifically,
if there are sharks involved or a crocodile.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Any cranky sea creature will suffice. Really.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I even I recently took myself to the movies and
I saw Drop, which was.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
A real poly rated horror film. It wasn't good, but
I loved it. I know, like I sat there. Do
you think the tone shifts and it gets both the
end when it was over the top, Yeah, that was
a great moment. But for a while there I was like,
this is boring.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But I liked it still because it was exactly what
I wanted.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's entertaining.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So let me begin with Pirana three D.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I actually really liked this movie as well. It's so good.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It is a twenty ten three D comedy horror film.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
After an earthquake splits a.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Lake floor, a swarm of ancient piranhas are released, and
a group of strangers come together to stop themselves from
becoming the victims of these deadly predators.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And some of the Pirana related death in this movie
ten out of ten.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Like the Final Destination Shit, Yes, so good. Another great
awful film Destiny see great horror bad horror movies.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well, okay, I've got to here, but I'll go with
one that kind of fits yours. So I love a
good monster movie, and there's a lot out there that
are poorly review but this one, in particular, I watch
over and over and over again, and the critic consensus
around it when it came out was so so low
that it nearly damaged the career of the two big
stars that were in it. It was called pretty much
a hollow creature feature that suffers from CGI overload, a
(09:35):
complete punished to watch cinemas. No, but that's a fucking
great movie. That's what I watched. Man, I should have
done deep as creepers. No, I'm talking to Humans center Pe.
I'm talking about Van Helsing, starring j Jackman and Kate Beckhamsale. Now,
I know you're saying that because the thing is a
lot of viewers love it, but like film critics hate it.
(09:56):
And so this is why I feel like I'm portraying
my people to be like. And yes, I saw it
when I was a teenager. Actually, I have such a
vivid memory of seeing it because it came out as
a teenager and I went to see it the movies
on a date you're allowed, and I, yeah, well I
was like an older teenager, I.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Was allowed to see those sorts of films.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
My mom had four kids, look after she I was
already watching I was already watching Buffy, so it was fine.
But I wanted a date. And I remember my date
leader of try and kiss me, and I put my
hand on his face, like pushing away because I don't
want to miss one second of this movie. This is
a fucking revelation.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And my movie is a sexy though.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, but this one's meant to be like kind of stupid,
but I actually think it's great. So it stars Hugh
Jackman as Van Helsing and Kate beckh Sale as Anna Valarious.
And the fact that Hugh Jackman takes this role so seriously,
he's very earnest. He's in an Oscar winning drama in
his mind, and there's a last crazy CGI monsters around.
(10:50):
So he plays Van Helsing, who is a character from
my favorite book and my favorite proper movie, Bram Stokers Dracula,
and he goes to Transylvania, which did Emily Vernon thought
until recently that Transylvania was a made up place like
she didn't realize was a real country. Why are you
going quiet? Do you not know? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I feel like that's not common knowledge. Transylvania is a
real place. I made that place that the vampire it's not.
It's a real country, like that's where the vamps come from.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
There's a lot of legends that come from Transylvania. But
Transylvania is a real country in Europe that people live
in and do businesses.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Are they all bloodsuckers?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Should I take some garlic when I visit there?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I desperately want to go to Transylvania.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I feel it's not that big of a deal because
I feel like a lot of people we need to
put a pull up on socials.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Did you know that that was a real place?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Or no? Wow?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I honestly didn't think I would encounter two people in
my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Okay, so another geography one.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I didn't realize that South Korea and North Korea would
that big of a difference until about five years ago. Okay,
I was like, well, I don't get it. Aren't they're
pretty much the same place? Isn't it like North America?
South America? No?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
No, no, Okay, that feels like a topic to tackle
on another day. So Hugeeman goes to Transylvania, real place,
but in this movie full of crazy sea creatures to
help Kate Beckhensale's character Anna, who is fighting Dracula and
his three wives. And it's a big monster battle, and
we've got were wolves, we've got monsters, we've got different vampires.
(12:21):
There's an incredible vampire like dance scene, because you know
how Dracula is like very famously has these three bloodthirsty
vampire wives that live in his home. Did not know
that that is a whole thing, yep, from his like
law And those characters in it are incredible And it's
just such a fun movie. And all the re you
say it's soulless, and I just think it's got so
(12:41):
much life and soul and I wish I had.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It's like Hugh Jackman's just putting his entire soul into
this film one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And I remember like a lot of reviews coming out
afterwardsbout how terrible this movie was. And yes, Kate Beckinsale
has a terrible accent. She's put on a Transylvanian accent.
It changes multiple times throughout the movie. Sometimes she's English,
sometimes she's French, and sometimes she's American and She's not
trying to be any of those things, but it's just
that I think a Transylvanian accent was hard for her
to pull off. But she's doing her best. She looks great.
(13:09):
She killed a lot of monsters, that's the important thing.
And Hugh Jackman, a lot of people say that he
would never recover from this disaster. Surprise, surprise, and he
has so van helsing. It's on many streaming services. If
you haven't seen it because you were turned off by
the bad reviews, just go and watch it and just
just sit with like one of the best monster movies
ever made in Transylvania, which is a real place.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Anaconda.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Wait is that your next one?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Well, you just wanted to talk about Ana Conders. Why
are you talking at anakondor the movie? Yes, I Love
Anakonda is so good. It is so poorly reviewed.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
It is a nineteen ninety seven film, a very long
time ago, with exceptionally awful acting by our friend Jennifhi Lopez.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh, it's come on now, She's not that bad? Is
that like a great cast? Isn't John Void in it? Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
The film focuses on a documentary film crew in the
Amazon rainforest that is led by a snake hunter who
is hunting down a giant, legendary green anaconda, and people
just get eaten by the snake.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It is such a great movie, so good.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
It's like Safari vibes. There is the big cranky sea creature,
also a snake. It's just there's a lot of famous
people in it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Also, I know, like when people watch it now, they're
just like, oh, that snake looks so fake. But you've
just got to remember I remember.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
For Our Eyes nineteen ninety seven eyes.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Watching it as a kid, you're like, I'm still terrified.
I still find it quite creepy because the idea of
falling into that water where the anacondas are. But it
does get funny as it goes along. In those last
fight scene, you know, like you see the anachondra in
full for the first time when they're kind of in
that house that's tipping over the water fall. I don't know,
it's a whole thing, and the anaconda comes up and
it's like in that Blake Lively movie The Shallows, where
(14:48):
the shark and the shark like is giving her like
dirty eyes and being like I fucking hate you. It's
like the anaconda also has too much personally, like it's
not meant to be like a supernatural creature. It's meant
to be just an anaconda who like these people have
come into its territory.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
But they gave it too much segy. It's got like
to handle.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Almost like eyebrows at the end, like it's like it's
a it narrows eyebrows at Jennifer Lopez and it's like,
I'm gonna suck you up, I'm gonna eat you. That's
a great movie. You're right, it is terribly poorly reviewed.
But again Jennifer Lopez acting like she's in a freaking
and she's about to win a nominated film. She gave
it her all. Well that's what you need for those movies,
(15:27):
is that you need this completely ridiculous setup and settings.
But the actors. They've just refilmed a remake of Ana
Conda in Australia. In Australia with Jack Black. Oh yeah, okay,
you don't think he can lead a big blockbuster, like
just not a serious film, Well I don't. I think
it's meant to be more of like an action comedy.
(15:47):
I obviously haven't seen yet because they're just they've just
wrapped filming, but I think it's meant to be like
a big screen kind of like humor. Absolutely absolutely. I
just wonder though, will the will the Aniconda be too
good now?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Because no, see the shallows, isn't that old?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
No? No, but that that shark is yeah, really weird.
So yeah, Anaconda. There's also a sequel that's not as good,
isn't it called Anna Conda's.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It's it's just there's a lot of snakes in that one.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, it wasn't just the one Snakes on a Plane also.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Where the snake bites the d Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The whole point of that movie is like they weren't
gonna call it snakes on a Plane, and then the
actors were like, we're literally not making this movie and
lets you call it otherwise, what is the point?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And ever, I wanted to go see that film because
it was called Snakes and a Plane.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
How ridiculous. Anyway, that's not what we're doing about to continue.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Okay, yeah, so my next one. So obviously I could
have got on and on with like the horror movies
and the action movies, but I actually thought something else
I love, going back to my original anti recommendation of
a family Affair, is how many rom coms are so
poorly reviewed that I actually secretly love. And I had
to really think about which rom com I love that
I could tell the people about. And I settled on
(16:55):
a movie that came out in two thousand and eight
called What Happens in Vegas? Have you seen it? It's brilliant. Yeah,
it is very poorly refewed, is it it's terrible? Yeah?
So it stars Ashton Kutcher and Cameron da and it's
among one of the worst reviewed movies of their career.
And it's not even one of those movies that's picked up,
like you know how like a movie comes out, it's
very poorly reviewed, and over time people pick up loving it,
(17:16):
whereas this one has just kind of fallen into like
that's a shitty movie. It got something like thirty six
out of one hundred on like the Metacritic score. It
was like rotten on Rotten Tomatoes, which doesn't always matter,
but yeah, it was got like a four out of ten,
like just really bad across the board. But I remember
going to see the movies and just thinking it was great,
and I've watched it many times since that.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I've watched it a few times. It's funny, it's light,
it's easy. In the industry became hot chemistry.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That's all I care about in a rom com, I
only want to care about are these people actually falling
in love in front of my eyes? And do I
want them to kiss? Because in a rom com, you
know how it's going to end. You go into the
movie knowing the two characters are going to get together.
So to keep your interest you have to be very
investigated in that. And that's not something you can just manufacture.
You can't just put two hot people together on screen.
(18:01):
I hope for the best and hope that we're going
to care because halfway through so many rom coms, I'm like,
I don't care about these people. I don't care if
they kiss. And if you don't care if they kiss,
there's no reason to watch the movie because there's a
lot of plot happening. So what happens in Vegas? So
Cameron Diaz plays as kind of like uptight to business
women with them, works in finance, and Ashton Kutcher's a
bit of a you know, a lad bro lad about town.
They're both in Vegas on this wild weekends.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Oh my god, she gets dumped when she's getting engaged.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It starts off with Cameron Diaz. She has all her
boyfriend's family friends in for a surprise party and then
he calls her and breaks up over the answering machine.
So it plays for everyone one of the worst breakups
in romcom history. That's such a good scene. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
And so that's why she ends.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Up in vague. I was like, how does she's so uptight?
How does she end up in Vegas? That's how because
lake Bell's in this, and this is lake Bell's best role.
She's such a great comedic actress. She plays her friend
Tip Up, the one who takes her too. Yeah, and
so you have this like b plot of these two
other characters falling in love. So Cameron Diaz and Ashton Kutcher,
the name's a Joy and Jack, but will just call
them by their actor names because that's what they are.
They're both in Vegas. They end up winning this huge
(19:04):
amount of money and they end up getting married having
no memory of it, and they try to get divorced
and see who will get the money. And this is
something that only happened in rom com Land are judge
rules that they have to try and make their marriage work,
otherwise neither of them will get this like a million dollars.
So then they have.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
One of them like leaves the other or cheats or something.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yes, and so like ridiculous. Every rom com plot at
its core is ridiculous, like that's the whole point of them.
But again, you have to play it like it really matters.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
No wonder we grow up with ridiculous ideas.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yes, And also I love an enemies to love his story.
That's my favorite. So these two Cameron DEAs an Ashton
culture who I love their very super platonic close friends
in real life, which I feel is always the best
way to have a rom comic. That's why I love
Drew Barrymore and Adam Sandler movies together. They're the best
of friends off screen, and I think that works for
(19:57):
romance on screen.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Because I've already got chemistry, but then you're performing I
guess the sexual chemistry.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, exactly. So Cameron DEAs and Ashton Kutcher are then
who absolutely hate each other after they realize what's happened,
are then forced to live together and like their lives together,
and then slowly they hate each other, they do really
terrible things to each other, and slowly at the time
they start to fall in love and it's really cute
and by the end of it, you're like, I so
believe these two people are in love and are just
like going to be together really hot sex as well,
(20:24):
So yeah, what happens in Vegas Again, Everyone was like, oh,
these two are kind of tanked after this. This is
such a bad movie. But it's truly good. But I
don't know if i'd say out loud if people ask
me what movies I like, but on the pod it's fine, Yeah, exactly,
Yeah we can say these things.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
The Spillers Deep Blue Sea a true classic, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Exactly, they're not. I think there's some movies like that
who kind of become cult classics over time and people
really build up loving them even though they're like so
poorly reviewed to start off with. But I wanted to
Moves first.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You should see Ice.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
If anyone hasn't watched that also a classic.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Well, I mean listen, I could go on, but we'll
save it for another day. Just I'll list every single
shark movie ever.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Well, yeah, we'll do a Shark movie special.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
One Oh my God, Lake Placid, another fabulous that's one's
about a cross Betty White in that anyway I could
go on, Okay, well I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Go wend Well. Thank you so much for listening to
the Spill today. And also we're always looking for more recommendations,
so please hit us up on Kelly and i instagrams
if there's other movies that are so poorly reviewed that
you absolutely secretly love so we can add them to
our watch list. And The Spill is produced by Amy
Kimball with sound production by Scott Stronik. And we'll see
(21:33):
you back here on your podcast feed at three pm
on Monday.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Bye bye, Ba
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on. From Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodnick, I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Killy McCarran, and I forgot to mention this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What did I do yesterday afternoon after we recorded our
episode about the.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Bad bakers, the baking bad?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, did I or did I not go in a
hunt in the rain for some chocolate caramel slice.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, if you saw an elegantly dressed blonde woman storming
the streets of Sydney and the rain yesterday, you're surprisingly
heavy foot breaking down. Yeah, you really are breaking down
doors and demanding bake treats. It was because yesterday, if
you've missed that episode, we did a big breakdown on
the allegations between Recipe he Eats and Bake with Brookie,
amongst other things. Yeah, amongst other things that us all
(01:06):
a hankering. Well, they kept talking about caramel' slife. It
was very lovely. Thank you for getting for us. But
on the Spill today, Yes, on the Spill today, we
are talking about the badly reviewed movies, the movies that
the critics just simply hated and told the world not
to watch, that we secretly secretly love.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Or not so secretly, because we're admitting it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
We're going to admit it now, just just between us
and the spill. And it is that the same time,
I'd say it. So the reason that.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Is spill on the spill, the reason how this came about, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It just let me ruin my own career quickly. So
over the East Long weekend, I was spending time with family,
and I was with my sister at my mum's place,
and we wanted to just watch a movie after like
you know, the craziness of Easter Sunday, we're going through
the movies. We've both seen everything, every movie.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
In the entire world, and we wanted something to try too,
and like we do love a movie rewatch, but sometimes
you just want to watch something a bit new, but
also something that didn't need our attention.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And we were scanning through Netflix and a little movie
called A Family Affair popped up. If that name rings
a bet, we well, actually it probably doesn't, because it
came out when a lot of different rom coms about
older women and younger men were being released around the
same period. I think a lot of people were running
them together. But A Family Affair came out last year
on Netflix and it stars Nicole Kidman, Zac Efron, Joey King,
(02:24):
and Kathy Baits. So two oscar Win isn't there, which
sign it should have been good. So when this movie
came out last year, everyone was like, it's shit pretty much.
Critics said it was terrible. Viewers said it was terrible.
A lot of people watched it. I didn't because I
think I was away or I signed someone else on
the team. You know, when you're the boss you can
do that. And I was like, I'm not spending my
time watching a shit movie if I don't have to
watch it for work. And people said it was schlocky,
(02:47):
the script was terrible, the performance were bad. Everyone was wooden,
blah blah blah. So my sister I sat down to
watch it and we freaking loved it. I love that.
I thought it was so entertaining, so smaky bro smile right, yeah, yeah,
I see, I love that. And I was like, I
can't tell people I like this movie because my people
film and TV critics who.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Are a little bit snobby about it.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, well we really are. You should see us at events.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
That that movie. I'd give it to one star.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, exactly. So it's one of those movies that was
so terribly reviewed that you're not supposed to like it,
or I guess some people hate watch it. But I
can't hate watch stuff. I can't just watch it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
About the Room and then a disaster Artist the all time.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh, I know, but that's like an event when you
go and like watch those kind of movies. But I
don't sit down. I'm not homewark. You know. When at
the end of the year Netflix releases all their terrible
Christmas movies, I can't watch those. I understand why people do,
but I need to have at least an idea that
I might like a movie. So I was really pleasantly
surprised by this. If you're not across it, basically, Zecha
From plays a movie star and he's freakin funny. Sorry,
(03:49):
everyone is good. He's a really good something else said.
I thought he was really funny. He leans so far
into the bit. He's an absolute dou first, and he
plays it so well. Joey King plays his assistant, and
they have a really intense relationship because they both hate
each other, but they really need each other. Nicole Kimmen
plays Joey King's mum and she falls in love with
zach Efron, like they mean, have like a steamy romance
(04:11):
us together, and it's all very yeah, And I just
thought it was delightful. So then I started thinking, what
is it on what is on Netflix?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Okay, a family saying for a friend for the we
can Oh, no, you'll like this movie.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Maybe you'll be like, oh, some bits of a bit grating,
like obviously it's not a perfect kind of rom com,
but it's a delightful little wash. And then it got
me thinking what other movies are terribly reviewed by critics
and viewers alike that I secretly love and would watch
in my own time, Because sometimes I have really just
not the correct taste for my people, for viewers or
(04:44):
like people who are really into TV and film, And
I always like, watch something and I'll write my review first,
and then I'll go and see what other people are saying,
and sometimes I am sometimes I'm like I am on
the wrong side of the street with this one. Two
most infamous ones that people always bring up to me,
they're like, I cannot believe you gave us a good review.
And I have looked it up, and I'm one of
the like the less than one percent of reviewers internationally
(05:07):
in the entire world who gave these movies a good review.
I didn't like Cats.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You don't even like cats?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
What do you mean? Cat's the movie?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Isn't it about cats?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
That's not the point of the movie. It's like a
Broadway musical that they adapted into.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I thought it was like Pets, the movie where they
all talked cats the musical.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I've never seen it. Oh well, most people would say,
you wouldn't. I always thought it was meant to be
a completely creepy, zany, over the top musical adaptation of
a stage show that I love, even though it's not
meant to be a good stage show. And it was
exactly that, And yes it was creepy, and yes, Taylor
Swift danced in a cat suit and dropped drugs on
other cats and James it was weird. Yeah, it's people.
(05:50):
That was the whole thing. So when it came out,
it was meant to be this huge, big blockbuster and
it was reviewed as like the worst movie of the
last ten years.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
No, why people don't like cats, That's why I'm killing
That's not what I'm still I'm still stuck on this
cats thing because even if they're just humans dressed up
as cats, well, that people don't like cats, well, that's.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
What they are on the stage show. That's not why
people didn't like the movie it is. It's because it
was weird CGI on Caney Valley. It's just like human
faces floating on these weird bodies. But the songs are bangers. Anyway,
aarved it. The other movie that I gave a great
review to that everyone else in the world hated, including
the lead actress, was Madame Webb that moved to Coda.
Johnson's like, this is a bad movie and I'm the
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star of it.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I've never even heard of it. It was was it about?
Is it Charlotte's web but the mother?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Ouh not even close? Not even You.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Have an episode next time m cannot come in.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Let us do a weekend episode where you tell me
what something's called it. I'll guess the synopsis.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Madame Webber is a superhero movie starring Jekota Johnson Charlotte's Mother.
As We're not even closed. It's in the Superman universe.
It came out and everyone was like, this is the
worst piece of shit we've ever ever seen. The Car
said it was bad. Dakota Johnson said it was bad.
Snie Sweeney said it was bad. I actually thought it
was quite fun. I thought it was quite a fun movie.
I loved just everything about it. And so my taste
(07:14):
cannot be trusted, is what we're getting to now. But
I thought this is a safe space and we're both
gonna share a few movies. We are. We know the
world hates, but we loved And do you want to
go first?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I feel like the world does like mine.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I feel like anyone do the assignment Well no, I
did in terms of rated poorly, yes, yes, So I
don't watch that many movies. If that was shocking, shocking
news to anyone that knows what cats in the web
movie are about. Like, I'd probably watch a handful of movies,
e of like movies not something that I've just seen before,
but when I'm like really hungover or just enjoying that
(07:49):
rare day of a rash.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I love a bad horror film.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, same, I love a bad horror film bad one specifically,
if there are sharks involved or a crocodile.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Any cranky sea creature will suffice. Really.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I even I recently took myself to the movies and
I saw Drop, which was.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
A real poly rated horror film. It wasn't good, but
I loved it. I know, like I sat there. Do
you think the tone shifts and it gets both the
end when it was over the top, Yeah, that was
a great moment. But for a while there I was like,
this is boring.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But I liked it still because it was exactly what
I wanted.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's entertaining.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So let me begin with Pirana three D.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I actually really liked this movie as well. It's so good.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It is a twenty ten three D comedy horror film.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
After an earthquake splits a.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Lake floor, a swarm of ancient piranhas are released, and
a group of strangers come together to stop themselves from
becoming the victims of these deadly predators.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And some of the Pirana related death in this movie
ten out of ten.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Like the Final Destination Shit, Yes, so good. Another great
awful film Destiny see great horror bad horror movies.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well, okay, I've got to here, but I'll go with
one that kind of fits yours. So I love a
good monster movie, and there's a lot out there that
are poorly review but this one, in particular, I watch
over and over and over again, and the critic consensus
around it when it came out was so so low
that it nearly damaged the career of the two big
stars that were in it. It was called pretty much
a hollow creature feature that suffers from CGI overload, a
(09:35):
complete punished to watch cinemas. No, but that's a fucking
great movie. That's what I watched. Man, I should have
done deep as creepers. No, I'm talking to Humans center Pe.
I'm talking about Van Helsing, starring j Jackman and Kate Beckhamsale. Now,
I know you're saying that because the thing is a
lot of viewers love it, but like film critics hate it.
(09:56):
And so this is why I feel like I'm portraying
my people to be like. And yes, I saw it
when I was a teenager. Actually, I have such a
vivid memory of seeing it because it came out as
a teenager and I went to see it the movies
on a date you're allowed, and I, yeah, well I
was like an older teenager, I.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Was allowed to see those sorts of films.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
My mom had four kids, look after she I was
already watching I was already watching Buffy, so it was fine.
But I wanted a date. And I remember my date
leader of try and kiss me, and I put my
hand on his face, like pushing away because I don't
want to miss one second of this movie. This is
a fucking revelation.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And my movie is a sexy though.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, but this one's meant to be like kind of stupid,
but I actually think it's great. So it stars Hugh
Jackman as Van Helsing and Kate beckh Sale as Anna Valarious.
And the fact that Hugh Jackman takes this role so seriously,
he's very earnest. He's in an Oscar winning drama in
his mind, and there's a last crazy CGI monsters around.
(10:50):
So he plays Van Helsing, who is a character from
my favorite book and my favorite proper movie, Bram Stokers Dracula,
and he goes to Transylvania, which did Emily Vernon thought
until recently that Transylvania was a made up place like
she didn't realize was a real country. Why are you
going quiet? Do you not know? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I feel like that's not common knowledge. Transylvania is a
real place. I made that place that the vampire it's not.
It's a real country, like that's where the vamps come from.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
There's a lot of legends that come from Transylvania. But
Transylvania is a real country in Europe that people live
in and do businesses.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Are they all bloodsuckers?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Should I take some garlic when I visit there?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I desperately want to go to Transylvania.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I feel it's not that big of a deal because
I feel like a lot of people we need to
put a pull up on socials.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Did you know that that was a real place?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Or no? Wow?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I honestly didn't think I would encounter two people in
my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Okay, so another geography one.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I didn't realize that South Korea and North Korea would
that big of a difference until about five years ago. Okay,
I was like, well, I don't get it. Aren't they're
pretty much the same place? Isn't it like North America?
South America? No?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
No, no, Okay, that feels like a topic to tackle
on another day. So Hugeeman goes to Transylvania, real place,
but in this movie full of crazy sea creatures to
help Kate Beckhensale's character Anna, who is fighting Dracula and
his three wives. And it's a big monster battle, and
we've got were wolves, we've got monsters, we've got different vampires.
(12:21):
There's an incredible vampire like dance scene, because you know
how Dracula is like very famously has these three bloodthirsty
vampire wives that live in his home. Did not know
that that is a whole thing, yep, from his like
law And those characters in it are incredible And it's
just such a fun movie. And all the re you
say it's soulless, and I just think it's got so
(12:41):
much life and soul and I wish I had.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It's like Hugh Jackman's just putting his entire soul into
this film one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And I remember like a lot of reviews coming out
afterwardsbout how terrible this movie was. And yes, Kate Beckinsale
has a terrible accent. She's put on a Transylvanian accent.
It changes multiple times throughout the movie. Sometimes she's English,
sometimes she's French, and sometimes she's American and She's not
trying to be any of those things, but it's just
that I think a Transylvanian accent was hard for her
to pull off. But she's doing her best. She looks great.
(13:09):
She killed a lot of monsters, that's the important thing.
And Hugh Jackman, a lot of people say that he
would never recover from this disaster. Surprise, surprise, and he
has so van helsing. It's on many streaming services. If
you haven't seen it because you were turned off by
the bad reviews, just go and watch it and just
just sit with like one of the best monster movies
ever made in Transylvania, which is a real place.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Anaconda.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Wait is that your next one?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Well, you just wanted to talk about Ana Conders. Why
are you talking at anakondor the movie? Yes, I Love
Anakonda is so good. It is so poorly reviewed.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
It is a nineteen ninety seven film, a very long
time ago, with exceptionally awful acting by our friend Jennifhi Lopez.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh, it's come on now, She's not that bad? Is
that like a great cast? Isn't John Void in it? Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
The film focuses on a documentary film crew in the
Amazon rainforest that is led by a snake hunter who
is hunting down a giant, legendary green anaconda, and people
just get eaten by the snake.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It is such a great movie, so good.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
It's like Safari vibes. There is the big cranky sea creature,
also a snake. It's just there's a lot of famous
people in it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Also, I know, like when people watch it now, they're
just like, oh, that snake looks so fake. But you've
just got to remember I remember.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
For Our Eyes nineteen ninety seven eyes.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Watching it as a kid, you're like, I'm still terrified.
I still find it quite creepy because the idea of
falling into that water where the anacondas are. But it
does get funny as it goes along. In those last
fight scene, you know, like you see the anachondra in
full for the first time when they're kind of in
that house that's tipping over the water fall. I don't know,
it's a whole thing, and the anaconda comes up and
it's like in that Blake Lively movie The Shallows, where
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the shark and the shark like is giving her like
dirty eyes and being like I fucking hate you. It's
like the anaconda also has too much personally, like it's
not meant to be like a supernatural creature. It's meant
to be just an anaconda who like these people have
come into its territory.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
But they gave it too much segy. It's got like
to handle.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Almost like eyebrows at the end, like it's like it's
a it narrows eyebrows at Jennifer Lopez and it's like,
I'm gonna suck you up, I'm gonna eat you. That's
a great movie. You're right, it is terribly poorly reviewed.
But again Jennifer Lopez acting like she's in a freaking
and she's about to win a nominated film. She gave
it her all. Well that's what you need for those movies,
(15:27):
is that you need this completely ridiculous setup and settings.
But the actors. They've just refilmed a remake of Ana
Conda in Australia. In Australia with Jack Black. Oh yeah, okay,
you don't think he can lead a big blockbuster, like
just not a serious film, Well I don't. I think
it's meant to be more of like an action comedy.
(15:47):
I obviously haven't seen yet because they're just they've just
wrapped filming, but I think it's meant to be like
a big screen kind of like humor. Absolutely absolutely. I
just wonder though, will the will the Aniconda be too
good now?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Because no, see the shallows, isn't that old?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
No? No, but that that shark is yeah, really weird.
So yeah, Anaconda. There's also a sequel that's not as good,
isn't it called Anna Conda's.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It's it's just there's a lot of snakes in that one.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, it wasn't just the one Snakes on a Plane also.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Where the snake bites the d Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The whole point of that movie is like they weren't
gonna call it snakes on a Plane, and then the
actors were like, we're literally not making this movie and
lets you call it otherwise, what is the point?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And ever, I wanted to go see that film because
it was called Snakes and a Plane.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
How ridiculous. Anyway, that's not what we're doing about to continue.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Okay, yeah, so my next one. So obviously I could
have got on and on with like the horror movies
and the action movies, but I actually thought something else
I love, going back to my original anti recommendation of
a family Affair, is how many rom coms are so
poorly reviewed that I actually secretly love. And I had
to really think about which rom com I love that
I could tell the people about. And I settled on
(16:55):
a movie that came out in two thousand and eight
called What Happens in Vegas? Have you seen it? It's brilliant. Yeah,
it is very poorly refewed, is it it's terrible? Yeah?
So it stars Ashton Kutcher and Cameron da and it's
among one of the worst reviewed movies of their career.
And it's not even one of those movies that's picked up,
like you know how like a movie comes out, it's
very poorly reviewed, and over time people pick up loving it,
(17:16):
whereas this one has just kind of fallen into like
that's a shitty movie. It got something like thirty six
out of one hundred on like the Metacritic score. It
was like rotten on Rotten Tomatoes, which doesn't always matter,
but yeah, it was got like a four out of ten,
like just really bad across the board. But I remember
going to see the movies and just thinking it was great,
and I've watched it many times since that.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I've watched it a few times. It's funny, it's light,
it's easy. In the industry became hot chemistry.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That's all I care about in a rom com, I
only want to care about are these people actually falling
in love in front of my eyes? And do I
want them to kiss? Because in a rom com, you
know how it's going to end. You go into the
movie knowing the two characters are going to get together.
So to keep your interest you have to be very
investigated in that. And that's not something you can just manufacture.
You can't just put two hot people together on screen.
(18:01):
I hope for the best and hope that we're going
to care because halfway through so many rom coms, I'm like,
I don't care about these people. I don't care if
they kiss. And if you don't care if they kiss,
there's no reason to watch the movie because there's a
lot of plot happening. So what happens in Vegas? So
Cameron Diaz plays as kind of like uptight to business
women with them, works in finance, and Ashton Kutcher's a
bit of a you know, a lad bro lad about town.
They're both in Vegas on this wild weekends.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Oh my god, she gets dumped when she's getting engaged.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It starts off with Cameron Diaz. She has all her
boyfriend's family friends in for a surprise party and then
he calls her and breaks up over the answering machine.
So it plays for everyone one of the worst breakups
in romcom history. That's such a good scene. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
And so that's why she ends.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Up in vague. I was like, how does she's so uptight?
How does she end up in Vegas? That's how because
lake Bell's in this, and this is lake Bell's best role.
She's such a great comedic actress. She plays her friend
Tip Up, the one who takes her too. Yeah, and
so you have this like b plot of these two
other characters falling in love. So Cameron Diaz and Ashton Kutcher,
the name's a Joy and Jack, but will just call
them by their actor names because that's what they are.
They're both in Vegas. They end up winning this huge
(19:04):
amount of money and they end up getting married having
no memory of it, and they try to get divorced
and see who will get the money. And this is
something that only happened in rom com Land are judge
rules that they have to try and make their marriage work,
otherwise neither of them will get this like a million dollars.
So then they have.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
One of them like leaves the other or cheats or something.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yes, and so like ridiculous. Every rom com plot at
its core is ridiculous, like that's the whole point of them.
But again, you have to play it like it really matters.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
No wonder we grow up with ridiculous ideas.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yes, And also I love an enemies to love his story.
That's my favorite. So these two Cameron DEAs an Ashton
culture who I love their very super platonic close friends
in real life, which I feel is always the best
way to have a rom comic. That's why I love
Drew Barrymore and Adam Sandler movies together. They're the best
of friends off screen, and I think that works for
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romance on screen.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Because I've already got chemistry, but then you're performing I
guess the sexual chemistry.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, exactly. So Cameron DEAs and Ashton Kutcher are then
who absolutely hate each other after they realize what's happened,
are then forced to live together and like their lives together,
and then slowly they hate each other, they do really
terrible things to each other, and slowly at the time
they start to fall in love and it's really cute
and by the end of it, you're like, I so
believe these two people are in love and are just
like going to be together really hot sex as well,
(20:24):
So yeah, what happens in Vegas Again, Everyone was like, oh,
these two are kind of tanked after this. This is
such a bad movie. But it's truly good. But I
don't know if i'd say out loud if people ask
me what movies I like, but on the pod it's fine, Yeah, exactly,
Yeah we can say these things.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
The Spillers Deep Blue Sea a true classic, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Exactly, they're not. I think there's some movies like that
who kind of become cult classics over time and people
really build up loving them even though they're like so
poorly reviewed to start off with. But I wanted to
Moves first.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You should see Ice.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
If anyone hasn't watched that also a classic.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Well, I mean listen, I could go on, but we'll
save it for another day. Just I'll list every single
shark movie ever.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Well, yeah, we'll do a Shark movie special.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
One Oh my God, Lake Placid, another fabulous that's one's
about a cross Betty White in that anyway I could
go on, Okay, well I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Go wend Well. Thank you so much for listening to
the Spill today. And also we're always looking for more recommendations,
so please hit us up on Kelly and i instagrams
if there's other movies that are so poorly reviewed that
you absolutely secretly love so we can add them to
our watch list. And The Spill is produced by Amy
Kimball with sound production by Scott Stronik. And we'll see
(21:33):
you back here on your podcast feed at three pm
on Monday.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Bye bye, Ba
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