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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
And I'm and vernam Okay. On the show.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Today, we are going to be diving into our favorite
movie franchises.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Now, this is off the.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Back of the slightly disappointing Jurassic World disappointing.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
For some aka Tina B. So if you haven't listened
to our Weekend Watch episode that was released early this morning,
go listen to that so you know what we're talking about.
But we had a bit of a disagreement with a
weekend Watch, so you got both sides, And basically, we
watched the new Jurassic World movie. We want you to
watch it and then tell us whether you liked it
(01:08):
or not.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I know, but it kind of got us thinking about
some of our favorite franchises, so we thought we'd do
an episode. It's kind of like a breakdown of some
of our favorite movie franchises. And these are the movie
franchises that once you start watching the first one, you
have to watch the entire series.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yes, it's not the franchise as where or like the
first one's always the best one, where you can just
watch that first movie and pretend the rest don't exist.
These are the ones where, like, no, no, no, you
have to see the whole story through because it's that good.
You have to watch the second or third, fourth, fifth.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
And it's that kind of franchise that you keep coming
back to, like you can watch it over and over again.
You have those movie marathons, you do a binge and
you just really enjoy it. Now it has to be
like essential watchers. That's our only rule here. It has
to be you like all of the movies. Yes, yeah,
So I'm going to kick it off because Laura and
(02:01):
I had a really great chat last week, and I
would be remiss if I didn't mention this because it
is so obvious.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I know, it's obvious. I know something that people can
be like.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Oh God, but I genuinely love these movies, and it
is the Lord of the Rings franchise.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You're looking at, super obvious for some people. Really, I okay,
I have a confession. Okay, I'm scared when it comes
to the Lord of the Rings. I've watched one and
a half movies.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
What do you mean one and a half movie?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Asn't I watched the first movie and then half of
the second.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Where's Laura?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I need Laura. I'm so glad I'm not saying this
while she's not here, because I know i'd getten a
lot of trouble.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I'm gonna get you in on Laura's behind.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's very disappointing, and I don't know why I keep
saying it, and now I don't know why I'm saying
it out loud on a podcast. But every person I've
told I've only watched one and a half movie is
a Lord of Rings.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay. It kind of shakes me that you stopped halfway
through two hours. I don't understand how you stop halfway through.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
To be fair, the reason I stopped halfway through was
because there was a specific scene that moved me so
much I had to pause it to recollect myself, and
then I.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Just got which scene was it?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
These are going to be spoilers, so yeah, I mean, if.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You haven't watched a lot of the Rings now like me,
Come on, if you.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Only watched half of Lord of Rings like I've we've scene.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Which scene?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It was? The scene? So you know, in the first
Lord of the Rings movie you think Gandalf.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Is dead, yes, at the end of it, yes.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And then in the second movie you see that he's
not dead. When that happened, it really because he was
my favorite character in the first Ian McAllen, like, I
love that man, He's amazing. And when I saw he
was back alive, I had to recollect myself. And then
I guess I still am recollecting.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Myself ten years later or something.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, So the Fellowship of the Ring came out in
two thousand and one, so I think it's probably a
little bit generational. Yeah, because you're a few years younger
than me. So two thousand and one, I was eleven
years old. Was quite young.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Was that the prime age to watch it?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Though? I think I was on the young side to
watch it. I remember watching all the movies in theaters.
I loved them all, and I've come back again and
again to the Sea. I watched all the extended cuts.
You know, often with my family or a big bunch
of like everyone loves a bit of sci fi and fantasy.
My mom and my uncle like grew up reading Lord
(04:21):
of the Rings, the Hobbit, So that was like a
really big part of our families. So we would have
like family movie nights where we'd watch all three of
them and whatsoever it's on. I will always watch it,
And like, after talking about this, I haven't watched it
in a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That's the best part about these kind of movies. I
just want to trigger such a cool memory that it
just feels so like wholesome and safe.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's almost like in one of those series where I
wish that I could go back to watching it for
the first time again. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And the fact that you haven't seen Return of the King.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Return of the King one Best Picture, Best Director, Like
it's like an Oscar winning movie.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, I know. I think even if you haven't watched
Lord of Rings, there are so many facts about Lord
of the Rings, you know, Like I know that the
three movies of Lord of the Rings they filmed at
the same time. I did so once after the other,
and from what I have seen of all of the Rings,
it does work really really well from the first movie
to the second movie, how it picks up straight after
(05:18):
and it's so seamless because they filmed it immediately after
so they all look the same age and.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So yeah again they film them all back to back.
It was two thousand and one, two thousand and two,
two thousand and three. In terms of release, they released
them one after the other.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Perpect we got back all the five years between each movie.
Each TV show's annoying.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I know. And considering the fact that this is like
twenty five years ago. The CGI, the effects, the practical
effects that they did, you know, it really put New
Zealand on the map, obviously. Peter Jackson is a key way,
you know, you can go visit Hobbiton in Aucklet in
New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Pobertin is a big, big feature of a lot of
men's hinge dating profiles.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Is it really all right?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I know so much about that place?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, this is something that I think it
because of makes you look so big when you're there,
so they don't take photos in front of the door,
and it's just not They love it. The men love it.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, Look, I love.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
All of the you know IMDb trivia.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
The one fact where he really broke his foot when
he kicked that helmet.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So you actually know a lot about it.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I know, so you have to. When I watched the
movie so not part, it was amazing, like seeing all
the things that I knew about it, like actually happening
in front of my eyes, because I actually only watched
it like three or four months ago, so it's not
like I watched them years ago and haven't them. It's
quite recent. For the first time Silent, I was actually.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Just so shocked because I think I've watched all of
them at least three or four times age at least,
like this is this is like hundreds of.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That's gonna be my homework for this weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I challenge you, if it's raining this weekend, please sit
and just watch them all.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Okay, you don't need to watch the extended ones. I mean,
the extended ones are very good.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
But is it the same cast and the extended one.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah. Yeah, it's just because Peter Jackson shot so much.
The extended huts are just additional scenes. So like for
the for example, in Fellowship of the Ring, I think
the original running time is like three hours and fifteen minutes.
They're long movies, but the director's cut I think it's
over four hours, so wow, it just extends the run time.
(07:28):
So it's a bit of an investment if you watch
them all back to back, but it is like very
worth it. But I think this had a lot to
do with Again, last week, we were talking a lot
about my Orlando Bloom obsession, and I think it really
started with he looks so young, and then well it
was his first ever movie, Like this is his breakout
role is legoless and it's not like a massive role.
(07:48):
Well it isn't in the first that much, but he
does have a lot more of a role in two
and three The King, which just not up to it.
Return of the King is like very Orlando heavy. Well no,
he's still supporting character, but you see a lot more
of the elves.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Okay, but yes, that is my.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
First one, and we need to get em to watch
a Lord of the Rings. But do you know what
our producer Mon also hasn't seen it. Money, you're just
like me, So are you kept.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
That very quiet while I've been getting like berated over here.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I do think it's a generational thing. Maybe I'm hoping
so because it really honestly, it is regarded as one
of the best trilogies on the planet.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
If not like it is just if not these if
not the universe.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Okay, yes, I do feel bad. I need to go
back into it. I hate that, I confess that.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But even if you're not like a big like fantasy
nord like which I am, which is weird, Okay, well,
then I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know why I think it is. I think because
of the amount of law behind Lord of the Rings.
And I think this is where sometimes when a franchise
gets too big, the fan base becomes an issue, because
I remember there was a specific time in my teenage
years where everyone was watching Lord of the Rings and
it became this big thing where especially the boys in
(09:07):
my high school, it was more like the Lord of
the Ring is so cool, like it's not for the girls.
It's not for girls, it's so.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Like, okay, it's for the falloy.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You felt like their fans were maybe excluding.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, And it's like when it becomes like so so big,
and it's like you can't just be a fan of
the movie. You have to be the best fan, like
the biggest fan. I think that's where it gets a
bit annoying. And I just pulled all the way back.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
From I completely understand that. Look, I am not the
world's biggest fan of a lot of the rings. I
really love the movies.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I definitely go back and rewatch them over and over again.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
But I do understand what you're saying where people kind
of start to gatekeep yeah, the franchise a little bit yeah,
and they keep you out of the loop, and I
think the fantasy genre does lend itself to that a
lot of the time. Let's go into your favorite Okay,
So the first one I want to talk about, and
(09:59):
similar to you, I'm digging deep into my childhood here
because this series it's also a trilogy. It's three movies
were the defining movies of my upbringing, and it's a
high school musical series.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You've never watched high school musical.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
The first one I've watched a million times. But I
think I just got too old for two and three
because I never get that. That's actually fair because I
was on the CUSP for three the first one, I.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Last one, Zac Erasing, Vanessa Hudgens, Ashley Tisdale, Corbyn Blue.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Like me and my little brother would like listen to
the soundtrack together.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh the sound is really good.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
It was I think, get your head in the game,
got to get you, get you get you get your
head in the game.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I think it was like so my older older cousins
their version of high school Musical, and my parents mainly
as well was Greece, and like for me, it was
high school Musical because like I would watch Greece, and
Greece was one of those things where like my parents
would make me watch because I'm like, this is cinema,
this is good and it's so interesting because you can
so tell the difference between how movies were marketed for
(11:13):
teenagers in that time versus now, and like that time
it was like girls getting pregnant and all like bizarre, bizarre, bizarre,
and stuff like that's happening in high school Musical. The
worst thing that's happening here is that will you choose
basketball theater?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, I think as well, because high School Musical franchise
is a Disney friend, it is a Disney franchise. Also,
whereas Grace is like they're talking about drugs and sex
and yeah, like it's a little it's a different And
also everyone in that movie was like thirty five when
they shut it. Yeah, and actually I'm pretty sure Stockard
(11:50):
Channing was like thirty when she was supposed.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
To be a high school lot.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
It's so funny, but I think they also had to
be thirty five because like they could not get kids
to do Grace. Yeah, but High School Musical. So it
came out when I was around eleven years old on
Disney Channel, and it was around the time where Disney
Channel was like really leaning into the movie space, like
they had the diehard TV shows that everyone loved, and
High School Musical for me and my generation was the
(12:15):
first Disney movie that really like hit Blockbuster. And the
great thing about it was because it was on Disney Channel.
Disney was just racking in all of this money because
it wasn't in cinemas, it wasn't anywhere else. The only
place you could get it was like off like some
illegal streaming side that someone filmed inside like their own
like TV.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I remember that your friend goes to Bali and they
come back with.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Like a camera of someone filming a screen and you're
just sitting in my cousin's room on her like desktop
computer watching it. It was just horrible experience, but like
so so fun And I remember watching it on Disney
Channel and they would have the Disney Channel ads in
between it and then because it was on Disney Channel.
They would just play the movie over and over again.
(12:57):
So I probably watched High School Musical like fifteen times.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Okay, but what about the second and the third one,
because I've never seen.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Those cinematic so okay, the second one is I don't
know if I'm gonna be in trouble for saying this.
I think High School Musical two is better than High
School USICO one.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
What's it about?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
So the second one is whether all on summer break? Okay,
So it's like not in the actual school. They're all
on this like really highly esteemed golf course that's owned
by Sharpay's dad, and they all have seen you probably
would it's the best one. They all get like summer
jobs at the golf club.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
So I remember a golf course for some reason, I've
got zac Efron singing on a golf course. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So zac Efron's like the caddy guy who like helps
the golfers. Vanessa Hudgens, who plays Gabriella, is like the lifeguard.
A lot of them work in the kitchen and then
they decide to do a musical at the golf club,
and that's where you really see tension between Troy and
Gabriella's relationship.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh god, I don't know, yeah, because they have to
like okay, and then the third one.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
The third one is like the graduation, so it's like
the final year of high school. That's like where like
tension really rises because I like, which college are they
going to go to? Like what is especially like what
is Troy gonna pick? Is he gonna pick basketball? Is
he gonna pick theater? Is he gonna pick? Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Okay, But like you're saying that this is something that
you go back to time and time again.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yes, because like it's like what you said, like when
I think of High School Musical and I go watch it,
it's not really about watching the movies. It's about like
going back in time to that little girl. I was
like sitting in my parents' bed, like watching it on
their TV in their bedroom, or for the second movie,
like being with my cousins and watching it all together
(14:36):
because we had this really annoying like family dinner we
all had to go to even though it was still
on Disney Channel. So I was telling my parents. I
was like, hey, just letting you know. High School Musical
two comes out on this date at this time, I
have to be home and watch it. And they're like, okay,
we got it. And then we had a family dinner
and they were like, you have to go to the
family dinner. And then I was messaging my cousin's like
what are we gonna do, and they're like, we'll just
(14:57):
watch it there at the family dinner, and we all
got to watch it because it was on Disney Channel.
We watched it live. And then the last movie was
the only movie they released in cinemas. So for my
thirteenth birthday, my mom bought me and all my high
school friends kids because we just entered high school we
were thirteen, and we all went to the cinema together.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Okay, so what's a nostalgia for you?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's a nostalgia and it's just good, like every song hits,
every song is a fucking banger. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So I think that that's relevant even though it's not
winning Oscars. It is, like, it's a nostalgia thing for you.
And I have a lot of respect for movies like that,
even if they're not.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's things that make.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Music should not be winning any Oscars, No.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I know, but it's just it's just so funny that
we went from Lord of the Rings to high school musical. Okay,
I love that this next franchise series is one that
we both agree on. Yes, yes, so we're going with
the Oceans.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
The Ocean series.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I love these movies.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Now, are we counting because the original Oceans eleven movie
came out in nineteen sixty We're not counting that we're
talking about We're gonna know we're George Claning. Now, we
know that that's the original, and we're not gonna try
and offend anyone. But I feel like we're not going.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
To because it's going to be like really old because
it didn't become a franchise, right, It was like the
original movie and then the remake happened and George Clooney,
Brad Pitt, Matt Damon and Garcia Julia Roberts like Casey Affleck.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Like the massive, massive cast. That cast is honestly one
of the best casts. Yeah, you really can't really compare
it and the fact that it's like Brad Pitt, George Clooney,
Matt Damon all together.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So Steven bestie Ben Affleck missed out on that one.
I know.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Steven Soderbergh directed it and it really is one of
the best.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Oh, it's so so good.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And you know the seat like where they're getting everyone,
everyone has their.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Everyone has their stick.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah. So you get one guy who's really really good
at like pickpocketing, which is Matt Damon's character, and there's
a lifter, I think a lifter they call it, I
think so. And then Brad Pete and George Clooney are
like the head guys who like make it all happen.
And then I think Don cheedle Is in number two
is the first one and he does like the bomb.
He makes the bomb yep. And it's just like such
(17:05):
a good cast. And the car Elliot caoled Julia Roberts,
who's just like absolutely stuck. I think, like I had
a massive crush on Julia Roberts when I look at
that movie. But the best thing about these movies is
that it's so clever, so fast paced, and it's one
of those movies where they're talking so so fast and
the chemistry between each character is so well done. It's
(17:29):
hard to remember that you are watching people play characters
because it looks like they're just playing themselves. It is
really really well done, and I love the story arc
of the entire Ocean series because you have the first movie,
which is like their first heist where they rob the
casino in Vegas in Vegas, and then the second movie
is when they get found out and they have to
(17:50):
pay back the guy.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yes, so Andy Garcia basically goes in and says, you
guys need to pay all of this back. It wasn't
quite as successful as the previous one, but I still
think it hold. I still think it was a really
great movie.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And I think it counts because every time, and I
watched this series so so many times, because every time
I go down to sit and be like I'm just
gonna watch Ocean's eleven, I immediately have to watch twelve
and thirteen and then eight.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Okay, so this is what I was going to ask you.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Now, I would say the Oceans franchise for me is
Ocean's eleven, Oceans twelve, Oceans thirteen. They are a standalone
and then it's almost like a spin off.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I would say.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oceans eight, even though I know I actually really liked
Ocean's eight. I don't know why everyone hated on it. Oh,
I think that that's I love joy.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, Ocean's eight I think people went in hating it
before even watching it. And it was the announcement of
these brilliant, brilliant actors who were all women doing an
Ocean's eight. That's a cast of all women, And immediately
everyone was like, this is going to be so bad.
It's all women. Why is everything getting remade with just
(18:56):
all women? Like it doesn't make it.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
It was around the same time as The Ghostbusters, Yes, yes,
you're completely writers, around the time where they had the
all women's cast for The Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Plus what's his name?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Chris Chris Emso, I've played the dumb pretty he was
so good.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
M should have been one of us is so bad.
But I think Ocean's Eight I absolutely love the premise
of Ocean's Eight, And similar to Ocean's Eleven, I think
every single woman in that cast worked so well together.
The chemistry was so well done. So Ocean's Eight is
in the same universe as Ocean's eleven. It stars Sandra
(19:30):
Bullock and her character plays George Clooney's character, Danny's sister.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You find out early in the movie that Danny had
passed away and she has just gotten out of jail.
She's also a criminal. They're from a big criminal family,
and her role is pretty much what George Clooney's role
is in The Ocean's Eleven, like getting the team together
to perform the big heist, and the big heist is
rubbing the met Gala.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I know, I love it. It's so good and like
Kate Blanchette Rehianna, Mindy Kayling, Mindy Kayling's in there like
it's soccer Fina.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's so well done and had the way I loved it.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I don't know. I don't know why everyone hated it.
I think it got way more hate than it needed to. Yeah,
I really enjoyed it, But for me, I still she'd
love the first one the I think you know that
two thousand and one was Ocean's eleven, and I think
that was the first time we saw that heist movie.
It was also around the same time as like the
(20:20):
Jason Bourne movies. Yeah, these kind of heist like sexy criminals.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Sexy like high end, smart criminals. It's not just like
these group of like rubbing a bank.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, our criminals are protagonists and not the antagonists. Like
even though they're doing something bad and we want them
to succeed because we really like the characters and it's
like kind of sexy.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And how like Brad Pitt's just like eating in every scene.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Okay, So apparently because he was eating so much, he
was like being really sick. Oh god, because he had
to eat in every scene. And you know when you
shoot a movie, like you shoot the same scene over
and over again.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I mean, you just had to keep eating.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I remember one time I did a mcdonald'sdad, oh a
very long time ago. Yeah, And it was for this slurpy,
like a blue slurp.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
How much slurpy did you drink.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
By the end of the day. I think I probably
had like in fifteen, but I had to start speeding
them out. So I just had a bucket next to
me that I would start speeding them out. But I
was so sick by the end of it. The amount
of sugar. Oh my god, your tongue must have been
blue for weeks. Well, the whole thing was that my
tongue was blue. And I'd go to the boy that
I'm sitting next to and I got is and my
tongue is blue. And that's the whole That was the
(21:27):
whole ad cinema, right, there, but they had to put
like food diet on my tongue.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Oh god, it's and that I was like so sick
from the thing.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
And they had like spit bucket and so that's what
they would have had, like I think had to spit.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I'm sure Brad Pit's fine.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I mean he's fine. This is like peak Brad Pit too.
It is peak Brad Pitt. Speak a lot of them,
like even George Clearly and my Damon.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Looks so good in this film.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
George Clin was hot.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
My god, Julia Roberts, count your dates.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
We've got time for one more thing.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Okay, I'm scared to say this one because I don't
want to get in trouble from our producer. Okay, I'll
say it. I'll take one for the team.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So these movies. I was so obsessed to it. I
didn't watch them immediately when they came out. I watched
them around when I was fifteen years old, but I
became so crazy obsessed with I had posters in my
room of these movies. My phone case was this movie poster.
I had a birthday theme as a fifteen year old.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Okay with these movies, all right, don't hold back, what
is it?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
It's part to the Caribbeans.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I don't know why I'm acting stuck.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I knew what it was, but that was just read acting.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Can I tell you something, am, what do you know
what my ring tone was? And then then that was
my ring tone for like five years, Like I was upset.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
We would have been such good because I learned to
play that on the piano, So that was like it
was a I made cinematic masterpieces out of a Disney
ride in Disneyland. Okay, insane.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
My only issue with this is so, yeah, the reason
why we were scared to talk about this, Yeah, the
reason why we're scared to talk about it is because
our rule for this, Like I mean, they're self inflicted rules,
but the rule for this was that it was only
going to be where you could watch every single series
and they were really good. Yeah, but I would argue
that because there is like a really big gap in
(23:27):
these Pirates movies, that we can just slightly adjust our rule.
So two thousand and three Pirates Caribbean, Couse to the
Black Pearl, then it was two thousand and six was
Dead Man's Chest, and then at World's End was two
thousand and seven, and.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Then we finished and then we went to sleep.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
After that, it's twenty eleven, so that doesn't count. So
we ignore. We're just saying the trilogy.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, the trilogy. Every movie that happened after at World's
End I'm pretending didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, we like, once we get to on Stranger Tides,
we're not looking at that, and that doesn't And it also.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
A different storyline completely. So the first, second, and third
Pirates to the Caribbean movies is the same storyline with
the same core.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Orlando Bloom, Cure Nightley, Johnny Depp, and.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Then At World's End has a very definitive ending. It's
at World's End. It says it in the title. Ye.
So if you haven't watched Parish of the Caribbean, watched
those three films, nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
After that, Yeah, don't worry about the other ones. Just
ignore it. They just got a bit too excited. Yeah,
and they dis didn't need to keep it.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I still think it counts, though, because I've watched those
three films over and over and over again.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I actually don't think the Curse of the Black Pearl,
the first one. I definitely have.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Jeffrey Rush icon it insane. The whole cast.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I do.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Actually Nightley is one of Kieran Nightley's first movies.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yes, Orlando Bloom, Orlando Bloom, so this is just franchise again.
Legalless and Orlando Bloom were on my He's very beautiful
in the Parish of the Caribbean, He's really pretty. And also,
like you know, Johnny Depp's character, Like, I do feel
a bit.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Grossery watching Parts of the Caribbean because of Johnny Depp.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I think the thing is this particular character is so
iconic for him. Yeah, and the way that he was
able to kind of you know, how he took that
inspiration from Keith Richard's like, yeah, let's separate the man
in the art for just a second, because I get
what you're saying is I sometimes get a little bit
I feel a bit uncomfy.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, similar with like Brad Pitt in The Oceans movies. Yeah,
people that make you uncomfy watching your old school like favorite.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
When I first watched Parts of the Caribbean movies, I
thought Johnny Depp was Captain Jack Sparrow, like because I
think he also embodied like I remember even seeing like
clips of him visiting children's hospital as like Captain Jack Sparrow,
and it just felt like that that character was him
and it was just like I thought that was literally
his personality as a person.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Well, it kind of was a little bit and that,
you know, bringing that Keith Richards being in and then
Keith Richard's being in the movies later down the line,
and then you know, think about like Jeffrey Rush's Bubbosa,
like that is against such an iconic character. Yeah, you know,
Orlando Bloomers, William Turner, he was like such a heart throb,
so hot.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
And then Kieren Nightley in that corset, like the corset
saying that she faints.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
They very much though, Like it's so telling with the
time that these movies came out and the period of
time that they were released. It is like, yes, you're
Kien Nightley and you spent like three months on this
ship with no shower, but I was still going to
have the most perfect hair and the most perfect makeup. Yes,
this is why, well everyone around you looks like trash.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yes, suspending belief. That is the beauty of cinema is
you can suspend your belief. She's just got like the
perfect wave to her hair, I know, and even in
like the subsequent movies where she's like shipwrecked or whatever
and she's not wearing like a full corset anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
She's still beautiful.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I'm into it.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
But look, I think that's one where we may have
broken our rules. But you know what the thing is,
it's this is our show. Yeah, we can tell and
we can do whatever we want. So back off, Yeah,
back off. Just watch the first three films.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, we told you. It's interesting though. It's so funny
that all of the franchises that we picked at.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
All actually well it's all no, no, it's all the
two thousands, like early two thousands.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
There was nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Something was in the water back there.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I think it's a nostalgia thing. I think nostalgia plays
a really big part in how much we like something.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I also think back then, especially with the franchises we chose,
it was very much felt like that these creators had
an idea of like this massive, massive story. And it's
similar to the Harry Potters, right, like you have a massive,
massive story that your only option is to break it
down into different movies, Whereas now it feels like franchises
are being made as like an easy way to make money,
(27:49):
so you have like a full movie, and then you're like,
should we make another movie or should we just make
the same one again and again and again. And I
think that's where franchises have kind of flipped the script,
and that's why I think they get such a bad
rap now, because the most recent franchises just feel like
a shortcut to making more money rather than like looking
at the big story as a whole picture.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I think that's basically where Pirates went after the third movie.
They've just kept going and it was like, guys, you
need to stop. Just stop, please stop, stop stop it.
It's like the Fast and the Furious movies.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, like I love those. I love all of those as.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Well, though, No, but again, the first one was great.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I even love the spin offs like Sewan Hobbs.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I don't know, it loses me after the first.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
The only thing that made me sad is when Vin
Diesel and the Rock had this massive beef and now
they can't work together anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, but I mean, look, there's some great franchises out there, Like,
let us know what your favorites are. Did we miss
any what is something that we should watch this weekend?
That's a franchise's franchise that gets all crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yes, well, I have to watch Lord of the Rings.
You do have to finish it.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I'm going to start watching it again.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
You have to watch hous com Muy School.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I already seen it. I don't want to watch the
second and third one. You have to, Okay, I'll do
it for you. Only if you watch all three libraries
will Okay. That's a lot of homework.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Deal, It's fine, I can do it. I'm a big girl.
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
And I'm and vernam Okay. On the show.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Today, we are going to be diving into our favorite
movie franchises.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Now, this is off the.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Back of the slightly disappointing Jurassic World disappointing.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
For some aka Tina B. So if you haven't listened
to our Weekend Watch episode that was released early this morning,
go listen to that so you know what we're talking about.
But we had a bit of a disagreement with a
weekend Watch, so you got both sides, And basically, we
watched the new Jurassic World movie. We want you to
watch it and then tell us whether you liked it
(01:08):
or not.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I know, but it kind of got us thinking about
some of our favorite franchises, so we thought we'd do
an episode. It's kind of like a breakdown of some
of our favorite movie franchises. And these are the movie
franchises that once you start watching the first one, you
have to watch the entire series.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yes, it's not the franchise as where or like the
first one's always the best one, where you can just
watch that first movie and pretend the rest don't exist.
These are the ones where, like, no, no, no, you
have to see the whole story through because it's that good.
You have to watch the second or third, fourth, fifth.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
And it's that kind of franchise that you keep coming
back to, like you can watch it over and over again.
You have those movie marathons, you do a binge and
you just really enjoy it. Now it has to be
like essential watchers. That's our only rule here. It has
to be you like all of the movies. Yes, yeah,
So I'm going to kick it off because Laura and
(02:01):
I had a really great chat last week, and I
would be remiss if I didn't mention this because it
is so obvious.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I know, it's obvious. I know something that people can
be like.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Oh God, but I genuinely love these movies, and it
is the Lord of the Rings franchise.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You're looking at, super obvious for some people. Really, I okay,
I have a confession. Okay, I'm scared when it comes
to the Lord of the Rings. I've watched one and
a half movies.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
What do you mean one and a half movie?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Asn't I watched the first movie and then half of
the second.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Where's Laura?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I need Laura. I'm so glad I'm not saying this
while she's not here, because I know i'd getten a
lot of trouble.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I'm gonna get you in on Laura's behind.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's very disappointing, and I don't know why I keep
saying it, and now I don't know why I'm saying
it out loud on a podcast. But every person I've
told I've only watched one and a half movie is
a Lord of Rings.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay. It kind of shakes me that you stopped halfway
through two hours. I don't understand how you stop halfway through.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
To be fair, the reason I stopped halfway through was
because there was a specific scene that moved me so
much I had to pause it to recollect myself, and
then I.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Just got which scene was it?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
These are going to be spoilers, so yeah, I mean, if.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You haven't watched a lot of the Rings now like me,
Come on, if you.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Only watched half of Lord of Rings like I've we've scene.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Which scene?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It was? The scene? So you know, in the first
Lord of the Rings movie you think Gandalf.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Is dead, yes, at the end of it, yes.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And then in the second movie you see that he's
not dead. When that happened, it really because he was
my favorite character in the first Ian McAllen, like, I
love that man, He's amazing. And when I saw he
was back alive, I had to recollect myself. And then
I guess I still am recollecting.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Myself ten years later or something.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, So the Fellowship of the Ring came out in
two thousand and one, so I think it's probably a
little bit generational. Yeah, because you're a few years younger
than me. So two thousand and one, I was eleven
years old. Was quite young.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Was that the prime age to watch it?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Though? I think I was on the young side to
watch it. I remember watching all the movies in theaters.
I loved them all, and I've come back again and
again to the Sea. I watched all the extended cuts.
You know, often with my family or a big bunch
of like everyone loves a bit of sci fi and fantasy.
My mom and my uncle like grew up reading Lord
(04:21):
of the Rings, the Hobbit, So that was like a
really big part of our families. So we would have
like family movie nights where we'd watch all three of
them and whatsoever it's on. I will always watch it,
And like, after talking about this, I haven't watched it
in a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That's the best part about these kind of movies. I
just want to trigger such a cool memory that it
just feels so like wholesome and safe.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's almost like in one of those series where I
wish that I could go back to watching it for
the first time again. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And the fact that you haven't seen Return of the King.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Return of the King one Best Picture, Best Director, Like
it's like an Oscar winning movie.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, I know. I think even if you haven't watched
Lord of Rings, there are so many facts about Lord
of the Rings, you know, Like I know that the
three movies of Lord of the Rings they filmed at
the same time. I did so once after the other,
and from what I have seen of all of the Rings,
it does work really really well from the first movie
to the second movie, how it picks up straight after
(05:18):
and it's so seamless because they filmed it immediately after
so they all look the same age and.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So yeah again they film them all back to back.
It was two thousand and one, two thousand and two,
two thousand and three. In terms of release, they released
them one after the other.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Perpect we got back all the five years between each movie.
Each TV show's annoying.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I know. And considering the fact that this is like
twenty five years ago. The CGI, the effects, the practical
effects that they did, you know, it really put New
Zealand on the map, obviously. Peter Jackson is a key way,
you know, you can go visit Hobbiton in Aucklet in
New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Pobertin is a big, big feature of a lot of
men's hinge dating profiles.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Is it really all right?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I know so much about that place?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, this is something that I think it
because of makes you look so big when you're there,
so they don't take photos in front of the door,
and it's just not They love it. The men love it.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, Look, I love.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
All of the you know IMDb trivia.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
The one fact where he really broke his foot when
he kicked that helmet.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So you actually know a lot about it.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I know, so you have to. When I watched the
movie so not part, it was amazing, like seeing all
the things that I knew about it, like actually happening
in front of my eyes, because I actually only watched
it like three or four months ago, so it's not
like I watched them years ago and haven't them. It's
quite recent. For the first time Silent, I was actually.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Just so shocked because I think I've watched all of
them at least three or four times age at least,
like this is this is like hundreds of.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That's gonna be my homework for this weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I challenge you, if it's raining this weekend, please sit
and just watch them all.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Okay, you don't need to watch the extended ones. I mean,
the extended ones are very good.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
But is it the same cast and the extended one.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah. Yeah, it's just because Peter Jackson shot so much.
The extended huts are just additional scenes. So like for
the for example, in Fellowship of the Ring, I think
the original running time is like three hours and fifteen minutes.
They're long movies, but the director's cut I think it's
over four hours, so wow, it just extends the run time.
(07:28):
So it's a bit of an investment if you watch
them all back to back, but it is like very
worth it. But I think this had a lot to
do with Again, last week, we were talking a lot
about my Orlando Bloom obsession, and I think it really
started with he looks so young, and then well it
was his first ever movie, Like this is his breakout
role is legoless and it's not like a massive role.
(07:48):
Well it isn't in the first that much, but he
does have a lot more of a role in two
and three The King, which just not up to it.
Return of the King is like very Orlando heavy. Well no,
he's still supporting character, but you see a lot more
of the elves.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Okay, but yes, that is my.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
First one, and we need to get em to watch
a Lord of the Rings. But do you know what
our producer Mon also hasn't seen it. Money, you're just
like me, So are you kept.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
That very quiet while I've been getting like berated over here.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I do think it's a generational thing. Maybe I'm hoping
so because it really honestly, it is regarded as one
of the best trilogies on the planet.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
If not like it is just if not these if
not the universe.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Okay, yes, I do feel bad. I need to go
back into it. I hate that, I confess that.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But even if you're not like a big like fantasy
nord like which I am, which is weird, Okay, well,
then I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know why I think it is. I think because
of the amount of law behind Lord of the Rings.
And I think this is where sometimes when a franchise
gets too big, the fan base becomes an issue, because
I remember there was a specific time in my teenage
years where everyone was watching Lord of the Rings and
it became this big thing where especially the boys in
(09:07):
my high school, it was more like the Lord of
the Ring is so cool, like it's not for the girls.
It's not for girls, it's so.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Like, okay, it's for the falloy.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You felt like their fans were maybe excluding.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, And it's like when it becomes like so so big,
and it's like you can't just be a fan of
the movie. You have to be the best fan, like
the biggest fan. I think that's where it gets a
bit annoying. And I just pulled all the way back.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
From I completely understand that. Look, I am not the
world's biggest fan of a lot of the rings. I
really love the movies.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I definitely go back and rewatch them over and over again.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
But I do understand what you're saying where people kind
of start to gatekeep yeah, the franchise a little bit yeah,
and they keep you out of the loop, and I
think the fantasy genre does lend itself to that a
lot of the time. Let's go into your favorite Okay,
So the first one I want to talk about, and
(09:59):
similar to you, I'm digging deep into my childhood here
because this series it's also a trilogy. It's three movies
were the defining movies of my upbringing, and it's a
high school musical series.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You've never watched high school musical.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
The first one I've watched a million times. But I
think I just got too old for two and three
because I never get that. That's actually fair because I
was on the CUSP for three the first one, I.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Last one, Zac Erasing, Vanessa Hudgens, Ashley Tisdale, Corbyn Blue.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Like me and my little brother would like listen to
the soundtrack together.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh the sound is really good.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
It was I think, get your head in the game,
got to get you, get you get you get your
head in the game.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I think it was like so my older older cousins
their version of high school Musical, and my parents mainly
as well was Greece, and like for me, it was
high school Musical because like I would watch Greece, and
Greece was one of those things where like my parents
would make me watch because I'm like, this is cinema,
this is good and it's so interesting because you can
so tell the difference between how movies were marketed for
(11:13):
teenagers in that time versus now, and like that time
it was like girls getting pregnant and all like bizarre, bizarre, bizarre,
and stuff like that's happening in high school Musical. The
worst thing that's happening here is that will you choose
basketball theater?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, I think as well, because high School Musical franchise
is a Disney friend, it is a Disney franchise. Also,
whereas Grace is like they're talking about drugs and sex
and yeah, like it's a little it's a different And
also everyone in that movie was like thirty five when
they shut it. Yeah, and actually I'm pretty sure Stockard
(11:50):
Channing was like thirty when she was supposed.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
To be a high school lot.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
It's so funny, but I think they also had to
be thirty five because like they could not get kids
to do Grace. Yeah, but High School Musical. So it
came out when I was around eleven years old on
Disney Channel, and it was around the time where Disney
Channel was like really leaning into the movie space, like
they had the diehard TV shows that everyone loved, and
High School Musical for me and my generation was the
(12:15):
first Disney movie that really like hit Blockbuster. And the
great thing about it was because it was on Disney Channel.
Disney was just racking in all of this money because
it wasn't in cinemas, it wasn't anywhere else. The only
place you could get it was like off like some
illegal streaming side that someone filmed inside like their own
like TV.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I remember that your friend goes to Bali and they
come back with.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Like a camera of someone filming a screen and you're
just sitting in my cousin's room on her like desktop
computer watching it. It was just horrible experience, but like
so so fun And I remember watching it on Disney
Channel and they would have the Disney Channel ads in
between it and then because it was on Disney Channel.
They would just play the movie over and over again.
(12:57):
So I probably watched High School Musical like fifteen times.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Okay, but what about the second and the third one,
because I've never seen.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Those cinematic so okay, the second one is I don't
know if I'm gonna be in trouble for saying this.
I think High School Musical two is better than High
School USICO one.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
What's it about?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
So the second one is whether all on summer break? Okay,
So it's like not in the actual school. They're all
on this like really highly esteemed golf course that's owned
by Sharpay's dad, and they all have seen you probably
would it's the best one. They all get like summer
jobs at the golf club.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
So I remember a golf course for some reason, I've
got zac Efron singing on a golf course. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So zac Efron's like the caddy guy who like helps
the golfers. Vanessa Hudgens, who plays Gabriella, is like the lifeguard.
A lot of them work in the kitchen and then
they decide to do a musical at the golf club,
and that's where you really see tension between Troy and
Gabriella's relationship.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh god, I don't know, yeah, because they have to
like okay, and then the third one.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
The third one is like the graduation, so it's like
the final year of high school. That's like where like
tension really rises because I like, which college are they
going to go to? Like what is especially like what
is Troy gonna pick? Is he gonna pick basketball? Is
he gonna pick theater? Is he gonna pick? Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Okay, But like you're saying that this is something that
you go back to time and time again.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yes, because like it's like what you said, like when
I think of High School Musical and I go watch it,
it's not really about watching the movies. It's about like
going back in time to that little girl. I was
like sitting in my parents' bed, like watching it on
their TV in their bedroom, or for the second movie,
like being with my cousins and watching it all together
(14:36):
because we had this really annoying like family dinner we
all had to go to even though it was still
on Disney Channel. So I was telling my parents. I
was like, hey, just letting you know. High School Musical
two comes out on this date at this time, I
have to be home and watch it. And they're like, okay,
we got it. And then we had a family dinner
and they were like, you have to go to the
family dinner. And then I was messaging my cousin's like
what are we gonna do, and they're like, we'll just
(14:57):
watch it there at the family dinner, and we all
got to watch it because it was on Disney Channel.
We watched it live. And then the last movie was
the only movie they released in cinemas. So for my
thirteenth birthday, my mom bought me and all my high
school friends kids because we just entered high school we
were thirteen, and we all went to the cinema together.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Okay, so what's a nostalgia for you?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's a nostalgia and it's just good, like every song hits,
every song is a fucking banger. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So I think that that's relevant even though it's not
winning Oscars. It is, like, it's a nostalgia thing for you.
And I have a lot of respect for movies like that,
even if they're not.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's things that make.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Music should not be winning any Oscars, No.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I know, but it's just it's just so funny that
we went from Lord of the Rings to high school musical. Okay,
I love that this next franchise series is one that
we both agree on. Yes, yes, so we're going with
the Oceans.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
The Ocean series.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I love these movies.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Now, are we counting because the original Oceans eleven movie
came out in nineteen sixty We're not counting that we're
talking about We're gonna know we're George Claning. Now, we
know that that's the original, and we're not gonna try
and offend anyone. But I feel like we're not going.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
To because it's going to be like really old because
it didn't become a franchise, right, It was like the
original movie and then the remake happened and George Clooney,
Brad Pitt, Matt Damon and Garcia Julia Roberts like Casey Affleck.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Like the massive, massive cast. That cast is honestly one
of the best casts. Yeah, you really can't really compare
it and the fact that it's like Brad Pitt, George Clooney,
Matt Damon all together.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So Steven bestie Ben Affleck missed out on that one.
I know.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Steven Soderbergh directed it and it really is one of
the best.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Oh, it's so so good.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And you know the seat like where they're getting everyone,
everyone has their.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Everyone has their stick.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah. So you get one guy who's really really good
at like pickpocketing, which is Matt Damon's character, and there's
a lifter, I think a lifter they call it, I
think so. And then Brad Pete and George Clooney are
like the head guys who like make it all happen.
And then I think Don cheedle Is in number two
is the first one and he does like the bomb.
He makes the bomb yep. And it's just like such
(17:05):
a good cast. And the car Elliot caoled Julia Roberts,
who's just like absolutely stuck. I think, like I had
a massive crush on Julia Roberts when I look at
that movie. But the best thing about these movies is
that it's so clever, so fast paced, and it's one
of those movies where they're talking so so fast and
the chemistry between each character is so well done. It's
(17:29):
hard to remember that you are watching people play characters
because it looks like they're just playing themselves. It is
really really well done, and I love the story arc
of the entire Ocean series because you have the first movie,
which is like their first heist where they rob the
casino in Vegas in Vegas, and then the second movie
is when they get found out and they have to
(17:50):
pay back the guy.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yes, so Andy Garcia basically goes in and says, you
guys need to pay all of this back. It wasn't
quite as successful as the previous one, but I still
think it hold. I still think it was a really
great movie.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And I think it counts because every time, and I
watched this series so so many times, because every time
I go down to sit and be like I'm just
gonna watch Ocean's eleven, I immediately have to watch twelve
and thirteen and then eight.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Okay, so this is what I was going to ask you.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Now, I would say the Oceans franchise for me is
Ocean's eleven, Oceans twelve, Oceans thirteen. They are a standalone
and then it's almost like a spin off.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I would say.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oceans eight, even though I know I actually really liked
Ocean's eight. I don't know why everyone hated on it. Oh,
I think that that's I love joy.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, Ocean's eight I think people went in hating it
before even watching it. And it was the announcement of
these brilliant, brilliant actors who were all women doing an
Ocean's eight. That's a cast of all women, And immediately
everyone was like, this is going to be so bad.
It's all women. Why is everything getting remade with just
(18:56):
all women? Like it doesn't make it.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
It was around the same time as The Ghostbusters, Yes, yes,
you're completely writers, around the time where they had the
all women's cast for The Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Plus what's his name?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Chris Chris Emso, I've played the dumb pretty he was
so good.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
M should have been one of us is so bad.
But I think Ocean's Eight I absolutely love the premise
of Ocean's Eight, And similar to Ocean's Eleven, I think
every single woman in that cast worked so well together.
The chemistry was so well done. So Ocean's Eight is
in the same universe as Ocean's eleven. It stars Sandra
(19:30):
Bullock and her character plays George Clooney's character, Danny's sister.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You find out early in the movie that Danny had
passed away and she has just gotten out of jail.
She's also a criminal. They're from a big criminal family,
and her role is pretty much what George Clooney's role
is in The Ocean's Eleven, like getting the team together
to perform the big heist, and the big heist is
rubbing the met Gala.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I know, I love it. It's so good and like
Kate Blanchette Rehianna, Mindy Kayling, Mindy Kayling's in there like
it's soccer Fina.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's so well done and had the way I loved it.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I don't know. I don't know why everyone hated it.
I think it got way more hate than it needed to. Yeah,
I really enjoyed it, But for me, I still she'd
love the first one the I think you know that
two thousand and one was Ocean's eleven, and I think
that was the first time we saw that heist movie.
It was also around the same time as like the
(20:20):
Jason Bourne movies. Yeah, these kind of heist like sexy criminals.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Sexy like high end, smart criminals. It's not just like
these group of like rubbing a bank.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, our criminals are protagonists and not the antagonists. Like
even though they're doing something bad and we want them
to succeed because we really like the characters and it's
like kind of sexy.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And how like Brad Pitt's just like eating in every scene.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Okay, So apparently because he was eating so much, he
was like being really sick. Oh god, because he had
to eat in every scene. And you know when you
shoot a movie, like you shoot the same scene over
and over again.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I mean, you just had to keep eating.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I remember one time I did a mcdonald'sdad, oh a
very long time ago. Yeah, And it was for this slurpy,
like a blue slurp.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
How much slurpy did you drink.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
By the end of the day. I think I probably
had like in fifteen, but I had to start speeding
them out. So I just had a bucket next to
me that I would start speeding them out. But I
was so sick by the end of it. The amount
of sugar. Oh my god, your tongue must have been
blue for weeks. Well, the whole thing was that my
tongue was blue. And I'd go to the boy that
I'm sitting next to and I got is and my
tongue is blue. And that's the whole That was the
(21:27):
whole ad cinema, right, there, but they had to put
like food diet on my tongue.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Oh god, it's and that I was like so sick
from the thing.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
And they had like spit bucket and so that's what
they would have had, like I think had to spit.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I'm sure Brad Pit's fine.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I mean he's fine. This is like peak Brad Pit too.
It is peak Brad Pitt. Speak a lot of them,
like even George Clearly and my Damon.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Looks so good in this film.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
George Clin was hot.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
My god, Julia Roberts, count your dates.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
We've got time for one more thing.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Okay, I'm scared to say this one because I don't
want to get in trouble from our producer. Okay, I'll
say it. I'll take one for the team.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So these movies. I was so obsessed to it. I
didn't watch them immediately when they came out. I watched
them around when I was fifteen years old, but I
became so crazy obsessed with I had posters in my
room of these movies. My phone case was this movie poster.
I had a birthday theme as a fifteen year old.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Okay with these movies, all right, don't hold back, what
is it?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
It's part to the Caribbeans.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I don't know why I'm acting stuck.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I knew what it was, but that was just read acting.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Can I tell you something, am, what do you know
what my ring tone was? And then then that was
my ring tone for like five years, Like I was upset.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
We would have been such good because I learned to
play that on the piano, So that was like it
was a I made cinematic masterpieces out of a Disney
ride in Disneyland. Okay, insane.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
My only issue with this is so, yeah, the reason
why we were scared to talk about this, Yeah, the
reason why we're scared to talk about it is because
our rule for this, Like I mean, they're self inflicted rules,
but the rule for this was that it was only
going to be where you could watch every single series
and they were really good. Yeah, but I would argue
that because there is like a really big gap in
(23:27):
these Pirates movies, that we can just slightly adjust our rule.
So two thousand and three Pirates Caribbean, Couse to the
Black Pearl, then it was two thousand and six was
Dead Man's Chest, and then at World's End was two
thousand and seven, and.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Then we finished and then we went to sleep.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
After that, it's twenty eleven, so that doesn't count. So
we ignore. We're just saying the trilogy.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, the trilogy. Every movie that happened after at World's
End I'm pretending didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, we like, once we get to on Stranger Tides,
we're not looking at that, and that doesn't And it also.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
A different storyline completely. So the first, second, and third
Pirates to the Caribbean movies is the same storyline with
the same core.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Orlando Bloom, Cure Nightley, Johnny Depp, and.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Then At World's End has a very definitive ending. It's
at World's End. It says it in the title. Ye.
So if you haven't watched Parish of the Caribbean, watched
those three films, nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
After that, Yeah, don't worry about the other ones. Just
ignore it. They just got a bit too excited. Yeah,
and they dis didn't need to keep it.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I still think it counts, though, because I've watched those
three films over and over and over again.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I actually don't think the Curse of the Black Pearl,
the first one. I definitely have.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Jeffrey Rush icon it insane. The whole cast.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I do.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Actually Nightley is one of Kieran Nightley's first movies.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yes, Orlando Bloom, Orlando Bloom, so this is just franchise again.
Legalless and Orlando Bloom were on my He's very beautiful
in the Parish of the Caribbean, He's really pretty. And also,
like you know, Johnny Depp's character, Like, I do feel
a bit.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Grossery watching Parts of the Caribbean because of Johnny Depp.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I think the thing is this particular character is so
iconic for him. Yeah, and the way that he was
able to kind of you know, how he took that
inspiration from Keith Richard's like, yeah, let's separate the man
in the art for just a second, because I get
what you're saying is I sometimes get a little bit
I feel a bit uncomfy.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, similar with like Brad Pitt in The Oceans movies. Yeah,
people that make you uncomfy watching your old school like favorite.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
When I first watched Parts of the Caribbean movies, I
thought Johnny Depp was Captain Jack Sparrow, like because I
think he also embodied like I remember even seeing like
clips of him visiting children's hospital as like Captain Jack Sparrow,
and it just felt like that that character was him
and it was just like I thought that was literally
his personality as a person.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Well, it kind of was a little bit and that,
you know, bringing that Keith Richards being in and then
Keith Richard's being in the movies later down the line,
and then you know, think about like Jeffrey Rush's Bubbosa,
like that is against such an iconic character. Yeah, you know,
Orlando Bloomers, William Turner, he was like such a heart throb,
so hot.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
And then Kieren Nightley in that corset, like the corset
saying that she faints.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
They very much though, Like it's so telling with the
time that these movies came out and the period of
time that they were released. It is like, yes, you're
Kien Nightley and you spent like three months on this
ship with no shower, but I was still going to
have the most perfect hair and the most perfect makeup. Yes,
this is why, well everyone around you looks like trash.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yes, suspending belief. That is the beauty of cinema is
you can suspend your belief. She's just got like the
perfect wave to her hair, I know, and even in
like the subsequent movies where she's like shipwrecked or whatever
and she's not wearing like a full corset anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
She's still beautiful.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I'm into it.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
But look, I think that's one where we may have
broken our rules. But you know what the thing is,
it's this is our show. Yeah, we can tell and
we can do whatever we want. So back off, Yeah,
back off. Just watch the first three films.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, we told you. It's interesting though. It's so funny
that all of the franchises that we picked at.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
All actually well it's all no, no, it's all the
two thousands, like early two thousands.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
There was nothing.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Something was in the water back there.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I think it's a nostalgia thing. I think nostalgia plays
a really big part in how much we like something.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I also think back then, especially with the franchises we chose,
it was very much felt like that these creators had
an idea of like this massive, massive story. And it's
similar to the Harry Potters, right, like you have a massive,
massive story that your only option is to break it
down into different movies, Whereas now it feels like franchises
are being made as like an easy way to make money,
(27:49):
so you have like a full movie, and then you're like,
should we make another movie or should we just make
the same one again and again and again. And I
think that's where franchises have kind of flipped the script,
and that's why I think they get such a bad
rap now, because the most recent franchises just feel like
a shortcut to making more money rather than like looking
at the big story as a whole picture.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I think that's basically where Pirates went after the third movie.
They've just kept going and it was like, guys, you
need to stop. Just stop, please stop, stop stop it.
It's like the Fast and the Furious movies.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, like I love those. I love all of those as.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Well, though, No, but again, the first one was great.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I even love the spin offs like Sewan Hobbs.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I don't know, it loses me after the first.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
The only thing that made me sad is when Vin
Diesel and the Rock had this massive beef and now
they can't work together anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, but I mean, look, there's some great franchises out there, Like,
let us know what your favorites are. Did we miss
any what is something that we should watch this weekend?
That's a franchise's franchise that gets all crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yes, well, I have to watch Lord of the Rings.
You do have to finish it.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I'm going to start watching it again.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
You have to watch hous com Muy School.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I already seen it. I don't want to watch the
second and third one. You have to, Okay, I'll do
it for you. Only if you watch all three libraries
will Okay. That's a lot of homework.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Deal, It's fine, I can do it. I'm a big girl.
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
Did not forget to follow us on TikTok at the
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Speaker 1 (29:23):
Bye bye
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