July 28, 2025 • 23 mins
Today on The Spill, we're unpacking the chaos caused by the Triple J Hottest 100 of All Time list. From The Veronicas to INXS, Missy Higgins and Hilltop Hoods - did your group chat survive the fallout?
Plus, the Coldplay cheating controversy just took another wild turn, with Gwyneth Paltrow (yes, Chris Martin’s ex) stepping into the narrative... just as her new book drops. Strategic coincidence? Or a PR masterstroke?
And finally, an Aussie actor has been spotted on the set of The Devil Wears Prada 2, and we need to talk about the latest casting goss, all the behind the scenes news, and the anticipation that just keeps building for the upcoming film.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Bradney and I'm Cassana lu Kich and coming up on
the show today, we have a new casting announcement for
(00:34):
The Devil Wears Prata that sent shock waves through Australia,
or at least through fans of a particular show, so
we're going to get into that. And also Gwyneth Paltrow
has released a very I guess questionable incredible ad depending
on which side of the fence you're.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
On, is genius marketing from my point.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We're going to get into that. But first a conversation
from something that had happen over the weekend that I
feel like is tearing friend groups and group chats apart.
And that is a poll that Triple J did over
the weekend that was from their listeners. Everyone voted in
the top one hundred best Australian songs of all time.
They did a huge coutdown. Feel like a lot of
people took time off work. People have held listening parties.
(01:13):
Every one of my social feeds was posting their reaction
to each song as it came through. Really united the netion,
I thought.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Or divided it depending on where you are, because there
were definitely some first of all, some notable people who
were missing from the particular top one hundred and some
ones that we really did not expect to see in that.
So I mean, I'll give you the top five just
in case you're not across it.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So never tear us apart. Number one, World Bad and.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
The conneta damn.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Terris, which I think is play with that. I'm okay
with that.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The Nose Feeds section from Pilltop Hoods number two three,
untouched by the Veronicas. This is the one that seems
to really be bothering people, which I have some thought
about scar By Missy Higgins at number four, and Don't
Dream It's over Crowded House, which I think definitely deserves
that top five. The Veronicas one seems to really be
(02:15):
bothering people. But I feel like, particularly in the last
few years, it's become an even bigger hit than it
was when it first came out. I don't know about you,
but it always seems to be coming like this, particularly
on TikTok, almost like this unofficial anthem, and it was
(02:36):
such a big deal when.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It came out.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
It was this anthem and it's just gone huge since.
So I think that definitely deserves to be there. The
one that I'm most upset about that did not even
make the top one hundred is Torn by Natalie Bruleia.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah. I was pretty cut by that as well.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
How can you not include Torn?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You know, it is listener voted, and I think it
was like the ages of people voting fell between eighteen
to twenty nine, which I guess that song because it
came out quite a long time before that maybe wasn't
in them. I mean, there's so there's so many songs
like that you think could be in the top five.
It's very contested voting system.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, are they any in there that you were like
that definitely did not belong.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Oh. Now, I was pretty okay with the top five, especially,
like I know, Hill Top Hoods might not be everyone's
cup of tea, but they've been in the music industry
for decades their music and that song has gone platinum
many times, So I feel like that was a really
good indicator of a song that has like stood the
test of time. With Untouched, I just feel like that
is so indicative of where the culture is because ever
since it came out in two thousand and seven, like
(03:40):
you were saying, it's become this huge anthem, It's gonna
become a queer anthem. It had a huge resurgence in
COVID because everyone's on lockdown and everyone felt very Untouched,
and it's become one of those things where like it's
almost like chic to be like that level of like
cringey and like it's just a belter. It's the one
song that when it comes on or like an event
or a club or a party or a wedding, that
(04:01):
gets everywhere on the downs floors. I feel like it
deserved that spot. I almost thought it was going to
be higher.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I love that, But I think one of the other
criticisms was that even in that top one hundred, it
was very male led, which I don't think is that
big of a surprise, particularly when you think about, you know,
the biggest international bands in Australia, the ones that like
have really kind of gone over our little island is
(04:27):
you know, bands like in excess spans like crowded house
bans like you know John Farnham kind of he's probably
more Australian.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I thought John Farnam and Daryl Rothwaite Horses would have
been way out there. But again maybe that's the voting skew,
but I thought because they've again had a big resurgence
in the last couple of.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Years, and then like Akadaka, like you know, those like
big bands you know from a while ago. But you're right,
the age of the voters I think definitely skewed it
in a slightly different way. You know, songs like Somebody
that I used to know from Gautier, which was such
a huge hit in the US that kind of put
Gauttier on the map in the States. I think that
(05:08):
definitely deserved that sort of top ten spot, But other people.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Like Sea wasn't included in the top one hundred, Tina Arena, wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
There a lot of people who I think are really
core to you know, the Australian music scene that weren't
in there. And I think that's why the group chats
are just so upset about it.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, I think that's why there's a lot of pushab
well there's always that thing, especially with anything with Triple
J with their annual countdowns, it's always that thing. Right
of it becomes this kind of like gatekeepy thing of
like what's cool, what's real music, what's pop? And that's
where the clash comes from. And I feel like that
conversation we have every year bubbled over in this particular
because it was you know, best Australian songs, and it
became this thing about like what is taste? What is music?
(05:53):
But yeah, I think the pop girls were the ones
that I was most upset about, Like Thrill the Ronicicaus
were in there, thrilled that Miss Higginson was in there,
Like I feel like Scar could have been number one,
maybe given another twenty years, but I would have liked
to see Delta Gudram a lot higher up. I was like,
where is the reverence for all the bangers that woman
had given us? Highly minogue her song should have been
way further up. I think she only had maybe one
(06:14):
entry on the list. Didn't love it? Where was Poison
by Bardo another unofficial national anthem again which hasn't had
the same resurgence as some of these other pop songs.
But I still thought. You know, it was a real
moment in time. You know the songs I was morning.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Do you know what one that really made me quite happy?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So you know that song by the Divinyls to myself.
One of my best friends from high school. Her dad
was the bass player in the Di Vinyls.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Oh, that's amazing. The first time I heard of that
song is it was referenced on Buffy the Vampire Slayer
and I'm watched that as a child and she was like,
I have no idea what that song means. And I
was like, yeah, me too. Now I know.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Now we all know.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So a little bit of an update on the Astronomer
debacle that's been happening over the last couple of weeks,
and in an absolute genius marketing move, Astronomer has brought
on Gwyneth Paltrow to do a little marketing spiel for
them on their socials. We'll let you guys listen to
(07:14):
the audio and then we can have a quick chat
about it.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Thank you for your interest in Astronomer. Hi, I'm Gwyneth Paltrow.
I've been hired on a very temporary basis to speak
on behalf of the three hundred plus employees at Astronomer.
Astronomer has gotten a lot of questions over the last
few days and they wanted me to answer the most
common ones.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I absolutely love this because what they've done is taken
something that really put them in a very very negative light,
brought them to the foe, and put this very tongue
in cheek add out where they actually explain what they're doing,
because I'm pretty sure last time I was like, I
don't know what they do, like some kind of like data.
AI think I still don't really understand what they do
(07:58):
from that explanation.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And to be honest, I don't know if that's for us.
That's not our story to tell.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It's really not.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
But you notice how she put a very temporary spokesperson.
She was very specific about that, which I quite liked.
And then to follow up on that, Amy O'Dell, who
is writing the Gwyneth Paltrow audio autobiography, which is coming
out this week, again perfect timing for her because she
(08:26):
popped out a Instagram story sort of talking about why
Gwyneth Paltrow has done this and also some of the
other things that she's been paid for, because that's kind
of part of the conversation is how much money did
they pay to get Gwyneth Paltrow to do this one
minute video?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
How much money did Gwyneth Paltrow give care to be
the very temporary spokesperson for Astronomer, the company that lost
a CEO following the viral Coldplay kiss cam moment. I
just wrote a book about Gwyneth Paltrow. I have exclusive
information about what she's earned for past endorsement deal, so
let's review. She appeared at the Red Sea International Film
Festival in Saudi Arabia for a total of one point
six million dollars. She attended a launch party for Skims
(09:08):
in late twenty twenty three to promote their Sporahsky collaboration
or two hundred and fifty thousand dollars when it's had
a bigger deal with Swarovski, where she would earn one
point to five million dollars in exchange for wearing Swarahski
a certain number of times. She also received millions for
endorsing other brands like copper Fit. Do you think she
would be paid for this one minute long video? Drop
your guesses in the comments and you can get a
(09:29):
copy of my book. When at the biography at the
link end of my mail.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So anything that she puts her name to she's going
to be getting a lot of money for.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So I wouldn't be surprised if it hit that kind
of one million dollar mark.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And I think it's probably worth it in order to
change the way the language is, you know what's the
language around this.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
We're going to flip the script.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
We're going to play into it, make a joke of it,
be in on the joke rather than trying to defend.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
And I think that's a really good pr move in
this climate.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
The money thing, I feel like is important, but I
feel like from what we know about Gwyneth and like
her immense wealth, it would have been less about the
money and more of the fact, like she loves to
be in on the joke. She's super online, she loves
to kind of have that last laugh. It's like when
there was that huge thing about her and Megan Mirkle
having beef and then she had that little Instagram story
where she like panned you know that she panned to
(10:24):
Meghan like sitting up at her kitchen table with like
her like leg on the table eating cake.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, And it's like about getting her power back because
as we know, the Amy Odell biography is not endorsed
necessarily by Gwyneth, but this is a way of almost
retaking a little bit of power back, and rather than
having to endorse it, she can kind of like speak
for herself, you know, rather than having everybody else speak
(10:52):
for her.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And I think that's very Gweneth thing to do.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, exactly. I feel like she saw a moment to
get in on this like big global conversation, and she
saw a moment to kind of be part of the joke,
especially when like at the moment, like everyone else is
telling her story, like two hundred people a bit into
ued for this book, the excerpts are going everywhere. It's
like a much cooler thing and a much more kind
of this like old Hollywood power thing for her to
just sit back, let that unfold, be part of the
(11:18):
joke and almost like bring it full circle. And like
when you can land something like this, I think that
shows like that almost like puts the power back in
your court. It kind of reminds me of remember in
the first season of And just like that when Bigg's
character sorry spoiler, if anyone who's three years behind dies
after being on the Peloton.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I feel like we all know that Big died on
a peloton.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
People out in the world sometimes unaware of what's happening
in the news cycle, and that was a huge thing
because Peloton was like, well, we knew the bike was
going to be there, but they obviously didn't know what
part of the story it was going to be in.
So then they went into crisis managing because then obviously
everyone's just like, well, if I get on a peloton,
will I die?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, because he had a heart attack on a peloton.
But if you know Sex and the City, you know
that Big had heart surgery.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, it was. It was a fully set up plot
point from very like early on in like the fifth season,
I think, so that whole thing blew up and no
one knew was going to happen. And then it was
actually Ryan Reynolds and his company because Ryan Renolds was
a smart guy. It's why he's got like a billion
dollar company outside of being Deadpool and everything like that.
Literally overnight organized for Chris nov to be in a
Peloton commercial with like the same like voices of the
(12:20):
instructors as the as the TV show, and did this
whole kind of safety thing and then that just went
so viral because a lot of time people see the problem,
but they don't see the response. Like if Peloton had
put out like a fact sheet saying why the bike
won't kill you, no one would have seen that. But
because it was chrisanth in his like mister big character
on the bike and it came from Ryan Reynolds, everyone
saw that and it got like a lot of social traction.
(12:42):
And I think it's the same thing with this. If
the if astronomer to whatever that company does, had put
out a statement that was like very kind of clinical
and they posted it to LinkedIn, no one would have
seen that, Like you needed the Gwyneth card.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
But this is what we've been talking about this a lot, Laura,
where you know when celebs are doing interviews now, when
they're doing Junkerts. Ten years ago, when we did junk Kerts,
it was you had a very specific set of questions.
No games, no like silly business. It was we're focusing
on the movie, We're not doing anything else. And I
(13:13):
remember you saying to me the other week that now,
now there is a trend of let's play a game,
let's do something funny, let's do something that's going to
create buzz because people are consuming media so differently these days.
We're not sitting down and watching TV. We are consuming
media in these short sixty second clips, thirty second clips
(13:37):
on TikTok, Instagram, x Twitter, all of that and having
those really grubby, funny, sort of irreverent pieces is what
gives headlines.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It's not about going in depth about the character in
the movie, which has its place, I think particularly in
written content, but in video content. Now we need to
be creating and publicists know this, and crisis managers know this.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
They know that being on the joke.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Because because that's the way that people are gonna respond
a lot more positively to it.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
La Nana Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So over the last week or so, there's been so
much casting news coming out from The Devil Wears Prada,
so many shots on the street. It's kind of ticking along.
It's one of those things that we haven't covered on
the pod much since, like that first big announcement of
like the cast and who is going to be in it,
until an Australian name popped up on the cast list,
someone that our audience will be very familiar with because
we have talked about many of his shows many times,
(14:39):
and that is Patrick Brammel.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And Patrick Brammel is now playing Andy Saxi's new love interest.
So bye bye Adrian Grenier, the problematic boyfriend who stopped
Andy for pursuing her dreams and kept her down just
because he wanted to see her. And now we have
a new, very hot Patrick Brammel joining the cast. I
(15:05):
want to know if he's going to be using an
Aussie accent or an American accent. I haven't seen anything
on what that's gonna look like. I'd love him to
use his Aussie accent because I think it's always nice
when an American show they use that because it kind
of adds to that sex appeal I think, particularly in
an all American speaking cast.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, all they've done is just announce that he's the
love interest, nothing else. I would love him to use
his Australian accent. I feel like he will, especially because
like he's always been such a well known actor, but
I don't think he's done like a big feature film
since Overlord, which is like many many years ago. And
now Australian audiences would know him from Glitch from Offspring,
where he also came in as like a love interest
in like the second clound of the story with Ashaketty.
(15:48):
People loved him from that, But I think it's Colin
from Accounts the comedy on Bind that he makes with
his wife Harriet Dyer, because that's been so internationally acclaimed
and I feel like overseas audiences have really fell in
love with that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I always love it.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It like really brings like a nice little warmth to
my heart when someone who we have appreciated, an actor
who we have appreciated in our film industry for many,
many years gets that success outside of Australia and seeing
them in those leading roles and in such a huge
(16:22):
sequel like Devil wez Prata. We haven't seen him on
the street yet because there's been a lot of some
maybe accurate, some maybe not so accurate photos of street
style and people on the set quote unquote on the
set of Devil wez Prata too.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
There's something like when TV shows and movies film in
New York and you see so much of the filming,
like that's always been such a big part of Sex
and the City is that like we know they film
fake scenes, we know that they decide to give us
like little tasters of the show coming up depending on
what they want us to know. So like seeing the
external shots of New York is like half the fun,
and I feel like that's been the same way for
(17:00):
Devil wes Prata. But it's also been confusing because we've
seen Andy Sachs, like played by Anne Hathaway, in some
wild outfits. We don't know, like, what's a dream sequence,
what's her before she goes back into fashion, what's her
like later on in the show. We've seen like someone
in Ashley out in the street. We've seen Meryl Street,
have yet to see Emily Blunt, have yet to see Stanley.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Tucci, we saw Larry David.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Let's saying, you've got to be alert out there, people,
because now there's this scene when any celebrity is papped
on the streets of New York, whether they're like a
Natalie Portman filming a project or they're just someone like
a Justin Bieber just walking the streets. Everyone's like, now
they're filming for Devil Wears. Prior to this is be alert.
This is what I'm wearing today.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I'm wearing my jacket over my shoulders because in the
photo of Larry David.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
He's just got like a coat over his shoulders, which.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Is very like fashion. Yes, so this was my nod
to Larry David today. But when I lived in New York,
it was literally every single second street was closed down
for filming because New York give these major tax breaks
for filming in the city, and they very very often
will close down entire streets. It is not uncommon to
(18:06):
see massive trucks, trailers catering you know, grips all of
his camera equipment.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It is a super common occurrence in New York.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
So just because someone's filming it doesn't mean that it's
the Devil Wears Prata.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
No, but it's been a fun game. Again, there's so
many things we don't know. Like people still think Patricia Field,
who's like the original costumer from Devil Wez Prata and
did such an incredible job with that. Obviously did Sex
and the City, did one season of Emily in Paris.
A lot of people think that she's doing the costuming,
but that hasn't been confirmed. Yeah, I think it's probably
Molly Rodgers and potentially Danny Santiago, who works with her.
(18:40):
They're the costumers who are working on and Just Like
That together. I have heard word on the street that
Molly and Danny are potentially doing the Devil Wears prior
to too, so it's probably all of their street style
fashions we're seeing on the street.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I actually watched this doco on Molly and Patricia fairly recently,
and Molly basically she's the current stylist on and Just
like That, And she basically said, I moved to New York,
I met Patricia Field and I've worked with her ever since.
So every single season of Sex and the City, Patricia
Field's number two was Molly. So it's the same style,
(19:15):
so it would make sense for it to be Molly,
and I feel like Patricia is how old is Patricia
Field now?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I feel she might have potentially like quietly retired. I
know she came back to costume Kim Control for her
little Sex and the City cameo, and that was Kim
Contrell's like one caveat when they're head of HBO called her,
but I haven't seen her name right, And look, also,
the woman's been like giving us beautiful clothes on TV
in movies for like decades.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Ye, she's eighty four years old. Now she's allowed to retire.
I think, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, exactly. But and I know this again, there's been
a lot of critique of the clothes, but again we
just don't know yet. They probably won't be as good
as the first time. But try I'm trying not to
put too many expectations on this and too many expectations
on all like the guest casting, like Lucy Lou coming in,
and also with practic Brammel, I feel like he has
the opportunity to, like, we don't know if they'll end
up together. Maybe he'll be like a bit of a
Simon Baker character where he's a love interest and they
(20:06):
fall apart at the end. I just find him like
so charming, both on screen and off screen. I've interviewed
him a few times over the years. The last time
I interviewed him it was him and Harriet together. It
was the night after Calm from Account season two premiere,
and as we were doing the interview, I was saying like,
I've never seen energy in a room like that at
a screening, which was true, people like bouncing off the walls,
(20:28):
and he was like so genuinely he kept saying like really, really,
and then he kept circling back to that, it was
like he couldn't quite believe that people were that excited,
and I was like, yeah, dude, it's a hit show.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I would like to see him in more of a
genuine love interest because Simon Baker kind of has that
asshole energy.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
And I mean that in a nice way.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, a hot, he's a hot jerk, like he kind
all of a hot jerk, like he kind of gives
that energy off. But I think Patrick Brammele has such
a in terms of his good looks, it's a lot more.
I don't want to say accessible, because I don't think
that's very nice.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I know, I know what you mean, but it's like
a he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I feel like sometimes when actors are like so otherworldly
hot and they get dropped in movies and TV shows,
you're just so hot you wouldn't be there. It's like
how Milacunus is always like so often in like the
height of her career, like playing a super like a
dowdy mum, or she plays like a cashier, which I
understand hot people can be cashiers as well, but they've
also just made her look so gorgeous that she looks
(21:31):
like she's been dropped into a scenario that would never
take place. Whereas Patrick Brammle he looks like when you
see him on a red carpet, like a hot movie star,
but he also looks like the guy that you could
bump too easily at the grocery store or sit next
to you at a pub and he wouldn't look out
of place.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, he's like walking barefoot down to the cafe to
grab his coffee with his surfboard, and like his kids,
Like he's just got a more like that classic ossy,
true blue bloke, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, And I feel like his wife, Harriet Dyer, and
they now have two kids.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It's all very cute.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And they wrote this love story to be in together,
and they met on set like it's a most beautiful
love story. But she put up a photo of the
announcement and had like a few different casts and then
she just put like a little pink love heart around it,
And I was like, this woman wants us all to
lust over her husband in this movie, Like that's the
point of it. So I'm tem Harriet and like we're
all going to join together and lust over her husband.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
So, as we've said a few times, we still don't
have an official release date.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
We know that they're filming.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
It's projected to be released next year, and as Laura
has said, they better get a.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Riggle on, I know early next year. I'm just again
I'm worried about timelines. I'm a the right weather constrains
about editing. I just I just feel like everyone needs
to get a move on. So the fact that we're
actually seeing people have said they've got another maybe month
of filming, which we might make it, but it's going
to be close to the finish line is all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
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do not forget to listen to Morning Tea is going
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Speaker 2 (23:18):
We'll see you back here in your podcast speed at
three pm tomorrow. Bye Bye,
So much.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Bradney and I'm Cassana lu Kich and coming up on
the show today, we have a new casting announcement for
(00:34):
The Devil Wears Prata that sent shock waves through Australia,
or at least through fans of a particular show, so
we're going to get into that. And also Gwyneth Paltrow
has released a very I guess questionable incredible ad depending
on which side of the fence you're.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
On, is genius marketing from my point.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We're going to get into that. But first a conversation
from something that had happen over the weekend that I
feel like is tearing friend groups and group chats apart.
And that is a poll that Triple J did over
the weekend that was from their listeners. Everyone voted in
the top one hundred best Australian songs of all time.
They did a huge coutdown. Feel like a lot of
people took time off work. People have held listening parties.
(01:13):
Every one of my social feeds was posting their reaction
to each song as it came through. Really united the netion,
I thought.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Or divided it depending on where you are, because there
were definitely some first of all, some notable people who
were missing from the particular top one hundred and some
ones that we really did not expect to see in that.
So I mean, I'll give you the top five just
in case you're not across it.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So never tear us apart. Number one, World Bad and.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
The conneta damn.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Terris, which I think is play with that. I'm okay
with that.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The Nose Feeds section from Pilltop Hoods number two three,
untouched by the Veronicas. This is the one that seems
to really be bothering people, which I have some thought
about scar By Missy Higgins at number four, and Don't
Dream It's over Crowded House, which I think definitely deserves
that top five. The Veronicas one seems to really be
(02:15):
bothering people. But I feel like, particularly in the last
few years, it's become an even bigger hit than it
was when it first came out. I don't know about you,
but it always seems to be coming like this, particularly
on TikTok, almost like this unofficial anthem, and it was
(02:36):
such a big deal when.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It came out.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
It was this anthem and it's just gone huge since.
So I think that definitely deserves to be there. The
one that I'm most upset about that did not even
make the top one hundred is Torn by Natalie Bruleia.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah. I was pretty cut by that as well.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
How can you not include Torn?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
You know, it is listener voted, and I think it
was like the ages of people voting fell between eighteen
to twenty nine, which I guess that song because it
came out quite a long time before that maybe wasn't
in them. I mean, there's so there's so many songs
like that you think could be in the top five.
It's very contested voting system.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, are they any in there that you were like
that definitely did not belong.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Oh. Now, I was pretty okay with the top five, especially,
like I know, Hill Top Hoods might not be everyone's
cup of tea, but they've been in the music industry
for decades their music and that song has gone platinum
many times, So I feel like that was a really
good indicator of a song that has like stood the
test of time. With Untouched, I just feel like that
is so indicative of where the culture is because ever
since it came out in two thousand and seven, like
(03:40):
you were saying, it's become this huge anthem, It's gonna
become a queer anthem. It had a huge resurgence in
COVID because everyone's on lockdown and everyone felt very Untouched,
and it's become one of those things where like it's
almost like chic to be like that level of like
cringey and like it's just a belter. It's the one
song that when it comes on or like an event
or a club or a party or a wedding, that
(04:01):
gets everywhere on the downs floors. I feel like it
deserved that spot. I almost thought it was going to
be higher.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I love that, But I think one of the other
criticisms was that even in that top one hundred, it
was very male led, which I don't think is that
big of a surprise, particularly when you think about, you know,
the biggest international bands in Australia, the ones that like
have really kind of gone over our little island is
(04:27):
you know, bands like in excess spans like crowded house
bans like you know John Farnham kind of he's probably
more Australian.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I thought John Farnam and Daryl Rothwaite Horses would have
been way out there. But again maybe that's the voting skew,
but I thought because they've again had a big resurgence
in the last couple of.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Years, and then like Akadaka, like you know, those like
big bands you know from a while ago. But you're right,
the age of the voters I think definitely skewed it
in a slightly different way. You know, songs like Somebody
that I used to know from Gautier, which was such
a huge hit in the US that kind of put
Gauttier on the map in the States. I think that
(05:08):
definitely deserved that sort of top ten spot, But other people.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Like Sea wasn't included in the top one hundred, Tina Arena, wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
There a lot of people who I think are really
core to you know, the Australian music scene that weren't
in there. And I think that's why the group chats
are just so upset about it.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, I think that's why there's a lot of pushab
well there's always that thing, especially with anything with Triple
J with their annual countdowns, it's always that thing. Right
of it becomes this kind of like gatekeepy thing of
like what's cool, what's real music, what's pop? And that's
where the clash comes from. And I feel like that
conversation we have every year bubbled over in this particular
because it was you know, best Australian songs, and it
became this thing about like what is taste? What is music?
(05:53):
But yeah, I think the pop girls were the ones
that I was most upset about, Like Thrill the Ronicicaus
were in there, thrilled that Miss Higginson was in there,
Like I feel like Scar could have been number one,
maybe given another twenty years, but I would have liked
to see Delta Gudram a lot higher up. I was like,
where is the reverence for all the bangers that woman
had given us? Highly minogue her song should have been
way further up. I think she only had maybe one
(06:14):
entry on the list. Didn't love it? Where was Poison
by Bardo another unofficial national anthem again which hasn't had
the same resurgence as some of these other pop songs.
But I still thought. You know, it was a real
moment in time. You know the songs I was morning.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Do you know what one that really made me quite happy?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So you know that song by the Divinyls to myself.
One of my best friends from high school. Her dad
was the bass player in the Di Vinyls.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Oh, that's amazing. The first time I heard of that
song is it was referenced on Buffy the Vampire Slayer
and I'm watched that as a child and she was like,
I have no idea what that song means. And I
was like, yeah, me too. Now I know.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Now we all know.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So a little bit of an update on the Astronomer
debacle that's been happening over the last couple of weeks,
and in an absolute genius marketing move, Astronomer has brought
on Gwyneth Paltrow to do a little marketing spiel for
them on their socials. We'll let you guys listen to
(07:14):
the audio and then we can have a quick chat
about it.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Thank you for your interest in Astronomer. Hi, I'm Gwyneth Paltrow.
I've been hired on a very temporary basis to speak
on behalf of the three hundred plus employees at Astronomer.
Astronomer has gotten a lot of questions over the last
few days and they wanted me to answer the most
common ones.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I absolutely love this because what they've done is taken
something that really put them in a very very negative light,
brought them to the foe, and put this very tongue
in cheek add out where they actually explain what they're doing,
because I'm pretty sure last time I was like, I
don't know what they do, like some kind of like data.
AI think I still don't really understand what they do
(07:58):
from that explanation.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And to be honest, I don't know if that's for us.
That's not our story to tell.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It's really not.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
But you notice how she put a very temporary spokesperson.
She was very specific about that, which I quite liked.
And then to follow up on that, Amy O'Dell, who
is writing the Gwyneth Paltrow audio autobiography, which is coming
out this week, again perfect timing for her because she
(08:26):
popped out a Instagram story sort of talking about why
Gwyneth Paltrow has done this and also some of the
other things that she's been paid for, because that's kind
of part of the conversation is how much money did
they pay to get Gwyneth Paltrow to do this one
minute video?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
How much money did Gwyneth Paltrow give care to be
the very temporary spokesperson for Astronomer, the company that lost
a CEO following the viral Coldplay kiss cam moment. I
just wrote a book about Gwyneth Paltrow. I have exclusive
information about what she's earned for past endorsement deal, so
let's review. She appeared at the Red Sea International Film
Festival in Saudi Arabia for a total of one point
six million dollars. She attended a launch party for Skims
(09:08):
in late twenty twenty three to promote their Sporahsky collaboration
or two hundred and fifty thousand dollars when it's had
a bigger deal with Swarovski, where she would earn one
point to five million dollars in exchange for wearing Swarahski
a certain number of times. She also received millions for
endorsing other brands like copper Fit. Do you think she
would be paid for this one minute long video? Drop
your guesses in the comments and you can get a
(09:29):
copy of my book. When at the biography at the
link end of my mail.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So anything that she puts her name to she's going
to be getting a lot of money for.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So I wouldn't be surprised if it hit that kind
of one million dollar mark.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And I think it's probably worth it in order to
change the way the language is, you know what's the
language around this.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
We're going to flip the script.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
We're going to play into it, make a joke of it,
be in on the joke rather than trying to defend.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
And I think that's a really good pr move in
this climate.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
The money thing, I feel like is important, but I
feel like from what we know about Gwyneth and like
her immense wealth, it would have been less about the
money and more of the fact, like she loves to
be in on the joke. She's super online, she loves
to kind of have that last laugh. It's like when
there was that huge thing about her and Megan Mirkle
having beef and then she had that little Instagram story
where she like panned you know that she panned to
(10:24):
Meghan like sitting up at her kitchen table with like
her like leg on the table eating cake.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, And it's like about getting her power back because
as we know, the Amy Odell biography is not endorsed
necessarily by Gwyneth, but this is a way of almost
retaking a little bit of power back, and rather than
having to endorse it, she can kind of like speak
for herself, you know, rather than having everybody else speak
(10:52):
for her.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And I think that's very Gweneth thing to do.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, exactly. I feel like she saw a moment to
get in on this like big global conversation, and she
saw a moment to kind of be part of the joke,
especially when like at the moment, like everyone else is
telling her story, like two hundred people a bit into
ued for this book, the excerpts are going everywhere. It's
like a much cooler thing and a much more kind
of this like old Hollywood power thing for her to
just sit back, let that unfold, be part of the
(11:18):
joke and almost like bring it full circle. And like
when you can land something like this, I think that
shows like that almost like puts the power back in
your court. It kind of reminds me of remember in
the first season of And just like that when Bigg's
character sorry spoiler, if anyone who's three years behind dies
after being on the Peloton.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I feel like we all know that Big died on
a peloton.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
People out in the world sometimes unaware of what's happening
in the news cycle, and that was a huge thing
because Peloton was like, well, we knew the bike was
going to be there, but they obviously didn't know what
part of the story it was going to be in.
So then they went into crisis managing because then obviously
everyone's just like, well, if I get on a peloton,
will I die?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, because he had a heart attack on a peloton.
But if you know Sex and the City, you know
that Big had heart surgery.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, it was. It was a fully set up plot
point from very like early on in like the fifth season,
I think, so that whole thing blew up and no
one knew was going to happen. And then it was
actually Ryan Reynolds and his company because Ryan Renolds was
a smart guy. It's why he's got like a billion
dollar company outside of being Deadpool and everything like that.
Literally overnight organized for Chris nov to be in a
Peloton commercial with like the same like voices of the
(12:20):
instructors as the as the TV show, and did this
whole kind of safety thing and then that just went
so viral because a lot of time people see the problem,
but they don't see the response. Like if Peloton had
put out like a fact sheet saying why the bike
won't kill you, no one would have seen that. But
because it was chrisanth in his like mister big character
on the bike and it came from Ryan Reynolds, everyone
saw that and it got like a lot of social traction.
(12:42):
And I think it's the same thing with this. If
the if astronomer to whatever that company does, had put
out a statement that was like very kind of clinical
and they posted it to LinkedIn, no one would have
seen that, Like you needed the Gwyneth card.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
But this is what we've been talking about this a lot, Laura,
where you know when celebs are doing interviews now, when
they're doing Junkerts. Ten years ago, when we did junk Kerts,
it was you had a very specific set of questions.
No games, no like silly business. It was we're focusing
on the movie, We're not doing anything else. And I
(13:13):
remember you saying to me the other week that now,
now there is a trend of let's play a game,
let's do something funny, let's do something that's going to
create buzz because people are consuming media so differently these days.
We're not sitting down and watching TV. We are consuming
media in these short sixty second clips, thirty second clips
(13:37):
on TikTok, Instagram, x Twitter, all of that and having
those really grubby, funny, sort of irreverent pieces is what
gives headlines.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It's not about going in depth about the character in
the movie, which has its place, I think particularly in
written content, but in video content. Now we need to
be creating and publicists know this, and crisis managers know this.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
They know that being on the joke.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Because because that's the way that people are gonna respond
a lot more positively to it.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
La Nana Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So over the last week or so, there's been so
much casting news coming out from The Devil Wears Prada,
so many shots on the street. It's kind of ticking along.
It's one of those things that we haven't covered on
the pod much since, like that first big announcement of
like the cast and who is going to be in it,
until an Australian name popped up on the cast list,
someone that our audience will be very familiar with because
we have talked about many of his shows many times,
(14:39):
and that is Patrick Brammel.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And Patrick Brammel is now playing Andy Saxi's new love interest.
So bye bye Adrian Grenier, the problematic boyfriend who stopped
Andy for pursuing her dreams and kept her down just
because he wanted to see her. And now we have
a new, very hot Patrick Brammel joining the cast. I
(15:05):
want to know if he's going to be using an
Aussie accent or an American accent. I haven't seen anything
on what that's gonna look like. I'd love him to
use his Aussie accent because I think it's always nice
when an American show they use that because it kind
of adds to that sex appeal I think, particularly in
an all American speaking cast.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, all they've done is just announce that he's the
love interest, nothing else. I would love him to use
his Australian accent. I feel like he will, especially because
like he's always been such a well known actor, but
I don't think he's done like a big feature film
since Overlord, which is like many many years ago. And
now Australian audiences would know him from Glitch from Offspring,
where he also came in as like a love interest
in like the second clound of the story with Ashaketty.
(15:48):
People loved him from that, But I think it's Colin
from Accounts the comedy on Bind that he makes with
his wife Harriet Dyer, because that's been so internationally acclaimed
and I feel like overseas audiences have really fell in
love with that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I always love it.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It like really brings like a nice little warmth to
my heart when someone who we have appreciated, an actor
who we have appreciated in our film industry for many,
many years gets that success outside of Australia and seeing
them in those leading roles and in such a huge
(16:22):
sequel like Devil wez Prata. We haven't seen him on
the street yet because there's been a lot of some
maybe accurate, some maybe not so accurate photos of street
style and people on the set quote unquote on the
set of Devil wez Prata too.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
There's something like when TV shows and movies film in
New York and you see so much of the filming,
like that's always been such a big part of Sex
and the City is that like we know they film
fake scenes, we know that they decide to give us
like little tasters of the show coming up depending on
what they want us to know. So like seeing the
external shots of New York is like half the fun,
and I feel like that's been the same way for
(17:00):
Devil wes Prata. But it's also been confusing because we've
seen Andy Sachs, like played by Anne Hathaway, in some
wild outfits. We don't know, like, what's a dream sequence,
what's her before she goes back into fashion, what's her
like later on in the show. We've seen like someone
in Ashley out in the street. We've seen Meryl Street,
have yet to see Emily Blunt, have yet to see Stanley.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Tucci, we saw Larry David.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Let's saying, you've got to be alert out there, people,
because now there's this scene when any celebrity is papped
on the streets of New York, whether they're like a
Natalie Portman filming a project or they're just someone like
a Justin Bieber just walking the streets. Everyone's like, now
they're filming for Devil Wears. Prior to this is be alert.
This is what I'm wearing today.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I'm wearing my jacket over my shoulders because in the
photo of Larry David.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
He's just got like a coat over his shoulders, which.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Is very like fashion. Yes, so this was my nod
to Larry David today. But when I lived in New York,
it was literally every single second street was closed down
for filming because New York give these major tax breaks
for filming in the city, and they very very often
will close down entire streets. It is not uncommon to
(18:06):
see massive trucks, trailers catering you know, grips all of
his camera equipment.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It is a super common occurrence in New York.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
So just because someone's filming it doesn't mean that it's
the Devil Wears Prata.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
No, but it's been a fun game. Again, there's so
many things we don't know. Like people still think Patricia Field,
who's like the original costumer from Devil Wez Prata and
did such an incredible job with that. Obviously did Sex
and the City, did one season of Emily in Paris.
A lot of people think that she's doing the costuming,
but that hasn't been confirmed. Yeah, I think it's probably
Molly Rodgers and potentially Danny Santiago, who works with her.
(18:40):
They're the costumers who are working on and Just Like
That together. I have heard word on the street that
Molly and Danny are potentially doing the Devil Wears prior
to too, so it's probably all of their street style
fashions we're seeing on the street.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I actually watched this doco on Molly and Patricia fairly recently,
and Molly basically she's the current stylist on and Just
like That, And she basically said, I moved to New York,
I met Patricia Field and I've worked with her ever since.
So every single season of Sex and the City, Patricia
Field's number two was Molly. So it's the same style,
(19:15):
so it would make sense for it to be Molly,
and I feel like Patricia is how old is Patricia
Field now?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I feel she might have potentially like quietly retired. I
know she came back to costume Kim Control for her
little Sex and the City cameo, and that was Kim
Contrell's like one caveat when they're head of HBO called her,
but I haven't seen her name right, And look, also,
the woman's been like giving us beautiful clothes on TV
in movies for like decades.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Ye, she's eighty four years old. Now she's allowed to retire.
I think, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, exactly. But and I know this again, there's been
a lot of critique of the clothes, but again we
just don't know yet. They probably won't be as good
as the first time. But try I'm trying not to
put too many expectations on this and too many expectations
on all like the guest casting, like Lucy Lou coming in,
and also with practic Brammel, I feel like he has
the opportunity to, like, we don't know if they'll end
up together. Maybe he'll be like a bit of a
Simon Baker character where he's a love interest and they
(20:06):
fall apart at the end. I just find him like
so charming, both on screen and off screen. I've interviewed
him a few times over the years. The last time
I interviewed him it was him and Harriet together. It
was the night after Calm from Account season two premiere,
and as we were doing the interview, I was saying like,
I've never seen energy in a room like that at
a screening, which was true, people like bouncing off the walls,
(20:28):
and he was like so genuinely he kept saying like really, really,
and then he kept circling back to that, it was
like he couldn't quite believe that people were that excited,
and I was like, yeah, dude, it's a hit show.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I would like to see him in more of a
genuine love interest because Simon Baker kind of has that
asshole energy.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
And I mean that in a nice way.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, a hot, he's a hot jerk, like he kind
all of a hot jerk, like he kind of gives
that energy off. But I think Patrick Brammele has such
a in terms of his good looks, it's a lot more.
I don't want to say accessible, because I don't think
that's very nice.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I know, I know what you mean, but it's like
a he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I feel like sometimes when actors are like so otherworldly
hot and they get dropped in movies and TV shows,
you're just so hot you wouldn't be there. It's like
how Milacunus is always like so often in like the
height of her career, like playing a super like a
dowdy mum, or she plays like a cashier, which I
understand hot people can be cashiers as well, but they've
also just made her look so gorgeous that she looks
(21:31):
like she's been dropped into a scenario that would never
take place. Whereas Patrick Brammle he looks like when you
see him on a red carpet, like a hot movie star,
but he also looks like the guy that you could
bump too easily at the grocery store or sit next
to you at a pub and he wouldn't look out
of place.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, he's like walking barefoot down to the cafe to
grab his coffee with his surfboard, and like his kids,
Like he's just got a more like that classic ossy,
true blue bloke, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, And I feel like his wife, Harriet Dyer, and
they now have two kids.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
It's all very cute.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And they wrote this love story to be in together,
and they met on set like it's a most beautiful
love story. But she put up a photo of the
announcement and had like a few different casts and then
she just put like a little pink love heart around it,
And I was like, this woman wants us all to
lust over her husband in this movie, Like that's the
point of it. So I'm tem Harriet and like we're
all going to join together and lust over her husband.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
So, as we've said a few times, we still don't
have an official release date.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
We know that they're filming.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
It's projected to be released next year, and as Laura
has said, they better get a.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Riggle on, I know early next year. I'm just again
I'm worried about timelines. I'm a the right weather constrains
about editing. I just I just feel like everyone needs
to get a move on. So the fact that we're
actually seeing people have said they've got another maybe month
of filming, which we might make it, but it's going
to be close to the finish line is all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Well, thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. Guys, Now,
do not forget to listen to Morning Tea is going
to be dropping in your feeds Monday through Thursday at
eight am. It's like your little drops of entertainment news,
hosted by Ash London. It's super quick. You're going to
get all of the headlines and then at three pm
you're going to hear from us and we'll do more
(23:10):
of the deep dives into our favorite stories. This bill
is produced by Manisha It's Warren, with sound production by
Scott Stronik.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
We'll see you back here in your podcast speed at
three pm tomorrow. Bye Bye,
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