June 20, 2025 • 42 mins
On the show today, in honour of the new season of Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders premiering on Netflix this week, we’ve rounded up the best cheerleading movies of all time.
Yes, we talk about Bring It On, from the original story behind the film, to the famous actress who was almost cast in the lead role and that one time the whole cast nearly got arrested. But there are so many other iconic cheerleading films that need to be on your watch list.
From an iconic cult classic starring Natasha Lyonne, to a film that blends cheerleading with a bank robbery and a laugh out loud movie you’d never expect to be on this list, these movies will make you want to get up and cheer (then run to your TV and watch them all).
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm
(00:31):
m Vernon, And boy do we have an exciting episode
for you today.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Because if you didn't know earlier this week, there's one
thing we've been talking about, and that is Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders.
We are obsessed.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
We know you're obsessed.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
We've watched all of the episodes, one of us in
one night, one of us watched it twice.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Let you decide who, but you can look at the
video and say who has bagged under our eyes to
pick who that is.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And I feel like the first season of Dallas Cowboys
Cheerleaders when it came out, everyone just went into this
like big hole of indulging and only cheerleader content. And
I think we do this when we finally get context
of the actual industry. And that's exactly what we're doing today.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yes, in celebration of everyone being a cheerleader, at least
in spirit for a week, watching Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders and
really immersing ourselves in that world. Today's episode is dedicated
to the very best cheerleader movies of all time. It's
so interesting that putting this list together, I realized how
much I was almost as much as I say, like, oh,
I didn't know the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders existed and all
(01:35):
that sort of stuff, which is true before the Netflix show,
But I did realize how much I was raised by
the American cheerleader system because it's such a prominent thing
in so many of my favorite TV shows over the years,
my favorite movies, like for me, like growing up as
a kid, seeing like cheerleaders in high school movies mostly
was the epitome of cool.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And it's so interesting the different type of cheerleaders that are,
like I think the movies we were brought up with.
It really shows cheerleading as an individual sport. Yeah, and
there's so many iconic lines in these movies where the
cheerleading team is more important than the football team. And
they even say that cheerleading for the game is just
(02:15):
only a small part of what we do. Yes, Like
we're actually a stand alone like sport. We have our
own competitions. It's a huge, huge, deal, especially in the US.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yes, exactly, and we all grow up watching American TV
and movies, so that's what we were raised on. So
on that thread, though, we should just say there's so
many movies that do feature cheerleaders or cheerleading as part
of the plot. But for today we had to define.
Well I had to define. I was like, you know,
how define after I chose my movies. Well, I hope
you follow the rules because, as you know, I'm super
(02:44):
easy going and I love a fun, loose podcast. As
long as we have a strict.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think producers should just like jump to our last
Briddley Honest review.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yes, where we did cozy movies and Emily said Jurassic Park.
And to be honest, we haven't spoken since this is
the first time we've been in a room together.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
If we wanted to see panic visualized on LB's face,
we have posted that on our Instagram as a steal podcast.
So go look at that, because a minute I talked
about Jurassic Park, I just saw all the light leave
your face.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
This is your momentary deem yourself if you follow the rules,
because we right now I have not. I So we're
defining a cheerleading movie where not just someone who is
a character who is a cheerleader or someone who wears
a cheerleading uniform, but where cheerleading plays a fundamental part
of the main plot. Because there's a lot of movies
like we will looking at the list where cheerleaders were mentioned,
(03:31):
and like movies like Jennifer's Body was on their incredible
horror movie, but cheerleading not really part of the pot.
She wears a uniform, whereas all the ones I have
on my list. Cheerleading saves the day and sometimes it
saves lives. So that's how we're defining it. You better
have a proper list.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Two movies that I want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Okay, Well, to lead you into that, first of all,
we have to start with I think we can all agree.
This is the one area where I think everyone agrees on.
The one thing is that Bring It On is the
greatest cheerleading movie of all time. Twelve So Grez, oh
(04:18):
my god, Okay, we're gonna get to it because we're
going to talk about the Bring It Off off shoots.
It's sporn to cinematic universe. Can I just have one
moment to follow them? Please? Go?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, Bring It On? Was definitely the first movie that
changed my life as a child. Like you were so
young and I was sitting there and I was like,
oh my god, I didn't understand a thing that happened.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah except for the dances, oh yeah, because you would
have been quiet. So it came out in the year
two thousand. I remember I was a tween at the time.
This sent center stage with the two movies. I have
a very visceral memory of going to see it with
my friends. I mean the first time I was allowed
to go out to the movies without a parent. So
I remember going to see Bringing On as a Saturday night.
I think we'd called the movie line to like pre
book our tickets because we knew it was going to
(04:59):
be sold out. There's not a lot to do in
Townsville when you're fourteen or whatever it was. And I
remember we all went and watched this movie, and like
all the kids from every high school were like all
their was like sitting in their groups because it was
the opening weekend and I'm just watching Bring It On
and just being like this is cinema, Like it was
so incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Teen movies back then, like in the early two thousands
were just the best form of movies ever because it
wasn't catered for adults, which I feel like some teen
movies now do they cater it for the parent because
I want the parents to allow their children to watch it.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Back then, no one gave a shit.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
They were just like, you go and make what you want.
They wanted to make money, but also it could have
a really clever social commentary as well as being like
a funny, sexy movie. And the thing is we had
very high expectations for teen movies back then. Yes, like
some of this shlocky stuff that gets put on Netflix,
we wouldn't have no, no, no all. So you're going to
a cinema paying twenty dollars? Do we have many shifts
that came out. I had to work to earn that
(05:59):
twenty dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I'm pretty good.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Go to the movie.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I'm pretty sure that movie was like so many people's
like sexual.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Understanding, oh one hundred. I found out about sex the
first time. I think watching that movie. Okay, I love
that for you, And that was a different way to
learn about.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
It, very different. And I would not recommend.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
If anyone who can't quite remember the plot, which I'm
going to assume everyone listening to this podcast has seen it.
Kirsten Dunce, who is still an incredible actress, but in
the early two thousands was the girl the lead of
every amazing movie, particularly teen movies. We'd watched her grow
up since she was in her first film, Interview with
the Vampire, and this was kind of also a huge
star making turn for her. So she plays Torrance Shipman.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Hurry.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well, it's funny that her name's Torrance and the toros
at her cheerleading squad.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
That's what confused me as a child. I thought she
owned the cheerleading stode. I thought that there was like
it could have just made it a bit different.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's an interesting story throw that no one's really explained
because I remember thinking when I first watched the movie, like,
is her family such an intense like fan of this
high school cheerleading squad in the football team that they
named their daughter after it. But it was just meant
to be like a fun thing. So she's going into
her senior year and she's all she cares about as
being a cheerleader and her squad, and she wants to
lead them to the finals. And she finally gets voted captain,
(07:11):
only to realize that the captain before her, Big Red,
had stolen all of their cheers I love how you
look at me like you didn't know this. You're had
stolen all of their cheerleading dances and sequences, everything from
the Clovers, which were a neighboring squad but from a
less rich area really and like the rival danced, yes,
(07:32):
and so they didn't have the means to like go
to finals and compete and all that sort of stuff,
so the Toros could just steal everything from them. An
elite cast, I should just say, so, we've got Kirston Dunce.
We've also got Elijah Justscoup, who I cannot stress enough
superstar of the moment. She had already played Faith on
Buffy the Vampire Slayer and because she played the bad
girl in this, Claire Kramer from Buffy, who plays Glory,
(07:54):
was also one of the cheerleaders, and also Jesse Bradford.
At the height of Jesse Bradford, it was downhill after that.
I've got to say for him, was it Oh yeah,
I guess he went to star in a few different things,
but it was.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Like, was he an American pie?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
No, you're thinking of Jason Biggs. They do like very
exact same. That is a different man. So Jesse Bradford
was You're like, man, that guy had a great year.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Did he go down for.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Jason Bigs? Are still working? Yeah, Jesse Bradford, I'm sure
it is fine. I haven't seen him in a while.
I hope he's doing well. Hope he's I'm sure he is.
Can I just say if I ever saw Jesse Bradford,
I'd say my fourteen year old self was head over
heels in love with you from that and Swim Things.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Two brush scene, Yeah, the brushing the teeth.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
They auditioned so many actors for that role because it
had to be a really particular person to play the
love interest and the brother and had that quirky.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And to be intriguing but also a bit goofy but
also sexy.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And also Terrence also had that terrible boyfriend who was
a cheerleader and then went to college and was awful
to her, so he had to be like the anti
of that. So they auditioned so many actors and the
actor who almost got it was James Franco. Oh no,
so it was going to be I mean that it
was like peak James Franco.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Before he had, but I don't think he pulled off the.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Brother He would have been slimy. Yeah, so the origin
of it on It was actually written by a journalist,
Jessica Bendinger, so you know, big things could happen for us.
One day and she was really obsessed with watching cheerleading
competitions on TV and just watch how intense it was,
how all the teams had rivalries but sometimes they would
(09:28):
come together and their backstories, and she was like, this
is so much more interesting to me than all the
football movies and everything that's out there. So she worked
on developing the movie and when she was trying to
sell it to networks, she builled it as Clueless meats
strictly ballroom. Oh I love that. Isn't that the best timeline?
So despite like writing the script and getting it all together,
(09:48):
she then pitched it to twenty eight different studios before
someone finally said, yes.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I'm obsessed with that. Oh it's such a good film.
But can we talk about quickly?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
The opening scene?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yes, please give me your thoughts to night, because again,
the opening scene a masterpiece.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Me as a six year old child, was freaking out.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So the opening scene is like Bam Bam band. There's
no cold opens here, so it's like a dream sequence.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Tori Torrence is gonna call a Tory no because her
name is Torrance tom So that's a weird thing to say.
Kirsten Houston, Sorry, No, you're doing so great. You're going.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Torrance is in the middle of a dancer team. She's
killing the words. It's all about her. You know the
song I No, No, I don't want to do it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
No, I'm sexy, I'm cute, ipulative, I'm bitching great hair.
The boys will like to stare.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, I don't want to keep going. I'm quite nervous.
I hate this this and.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I'm like in the dream, I know, well that's the thing.
It's that idea of getting up and someone saying do this,
and you're like, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Anyway, So she's like landing all the moves. She's like
the head cheerleader in this dream. And then she gets
up and she's like go Toro, and she's.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Naked and she just realized. The whole audience goes and
then a boom. Yeah great, that's also interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
One guy collapsed, Yeah, which is what would happen in
a high school movie like that. That's such a good
setup because it's not like a lot of over explaining
it all of a sudden, like you have this. It
sets the tone of the yeah that it's smart and
funny and a bit silly. It's it's the tone you're
immediately in this girl's head. So when she goes to
school for the vote, you're like already like in it
with her, and you know who all the other cheerleads,
like every other cheerleader on the team like instantly falls
(11:24):
into place.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So I'm everything You're not, Yes exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
There's so many bangers in that. Also a big role
for Gabrielle Union, who's gone on to be a real
superstar playing isis God. She's so good, it's so incredible.
It's so interesting her. I mean, there's so many layers
to this movie that I don't know if as many
teen movies do now. She was modeled after like a
top tier athlete, so they looked at like all the
different like interviews that all these top tier athletes had
(11:50):
given how they talk and how they speak to their
team and how they think, and put all of that
into her into that character, and that's why she seems
like goddess like and other worldly as she moves through
the movie, because she's meant to be like a pro athlete,
so amazing. So no one thought the movie was gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Watch the Spirit stick.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah this again, this movie. It's so funny how the
mentioned Clueless when she was pitching the movie, because Clueless
has gone on to like define the way people speak,
the way there are furred things, and without even knowing it,
like Clueless is like referenced in so many other movies
and bring it on, I'd say from that era, like
bring it on to mean Girls are the two movies
that we still talk about, like over twenty years later,
(12:28):
just because of the way they like changed our like
lexicon and change like quotes and all that sort of thing.
It's crazy. And also no one thought this movie would
do well. It was kind of being like, oh, that
silly Cheerley to movie. And they also nearly had to
stop production halfway through filming because half the cast got
arrested in Mexico. Not Kiirston Dunce. I feel like Eliza
Deuscu led the charge. They all like rented a van
(12:48):
one weekend when they were like halfway through filming, drove
across the border to like party in Mexico and then
got detained. Oh my god. They had to like ring
the studio and get them. They just like got to
set them filming on a Monday morning and was like
where's where is it asked except for little Kist and
Dunce because she was like much younger than everyone else,
so she's like there or ready to go, and like
where's the cart And they get a phone call being
(13:09):
like there. I don't know if they were actually like
in jail, but they were like they had been detained
and they had to go and spring them from Mexico.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's the best story.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
And then when the movie opened it was number one
for two weeks in North America and like then the
rest of the world, we cater more movies to young
women exactly, we.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Will show up.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And again the cast wasn't expecting it to be so big.
They got like a call from one of the reviewers
being like, so everyone's saying this movie is great. So
the night it came out, the night Bringing On came out,
all the cars like all those teen and like early
twenties actors who played the cheerleaders, rented a van and
drove around to all the cinemas in LA and like
would walk in and like see everyone screaming and laughing
(13:46):
and see all the cinemas packed with people, and they
were like, Holy hell, people like this movie.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And they were so young as well. Yeah, oh that
would have been so good.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
But at the end, and this is coming back to
the theme of this movie, cheerleading saved the day because
it brought them together. It taught them leadership. That was
the point of the movie. Okay, okay, what are you
gonna say?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So as much as I love Bring It On, it
was the first Bring it On I washed, but it
wasn't the one that like came out when I was
in that phase where I could watch cheerleader movies and
understand them, like watch teen girl movies and understand them.
It was another bring it on, bring it on all
or nothing shroc Yeah that's a pud.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, might not shake it. Yeah, boys, I'm mummy. I'm
not super well versed in the other bringing on movies.
Which one is that?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Hayden Pantiri and Solange Nos.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I mean so unreds.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I love Solange Knowles is so good in this So
you haven't watched this one.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
No, I have watched it many many years ago. This thing,
I wouldn't critique these movies that Bring It Off spinoff movies.
I wouldn't critique them if I hadn't seen them. So
I have. I'm just not super placed of which ones were.
My only issue with them is like, the studios obviously
saw how financially successful Bring It On was and how
much people loved it, so they made eight more, and
they made eight more, which I'm fine with on board,
but they missed the thing that people liked about the
(15:12):
first movie, which was that it was very smart. It
was like cuttingly funny. It also had this amazing critique
of society and how people like view each other, and
that's what people liked. And they said, you know what,
here's eight dumb movies to follow. That's what the chicks want.
They just want to come see other girls dance and
cheerleader outfits. And it's like, you literally missed the whole
point that Bring It On was trying to teach you.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It's kind of true because Bring It On All or
Nothing and a lot of the other ones. I have
watched most of them it's the same plot. It's literally
the same same plot every time. Yeah, so a little
bit has changed. So Hayden plays Britney Allen, who's like
the head cheerleader in this really preppy high end school.
She lives in this mansion with her parents. She's like,
(15:56):
drives her own car. She's very cool, she's very rich.
Everything's pink. Love that her dad loses his job, which
means she has to transfer schools into a quote unquote
rougher area not Los Angeles, which basically means she's the
only white girl at this whole.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
School at this very save the last dance.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So Solange Andole's plays Camille, who's like the head cheerleader
of the school that Brittany gets transferred to. And they
are so good.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
They're more like rather than like the big like I.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Guess Dallas cheerleaders curated moves. It's more like dance like fresh.
They take like a fresher approach towards cheerleading. Brittany joins
the team and there's like squabbles right because Brittany's like,
I used to be her cheerleader, so I can lead
this team. Yahman, It's like this is literally my team.
What's going on. At the same time, Brittany's like trying
(16:50):
to get in with her new friends, but she also
doesn't want to give up her life. And then she
slowly realizes that her friends from her old school when
she goes back to their prom are just bitches.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So this is pretty much the plot of Bringing On
the Musical.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Maybe maybe Bringing On the Musical is after Bringing On All.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
People go and see Bringing On the Musical, which is
like a wildly successful Broadway show, thinking it's gonna be
Bringing On the movie, but it's got a whole separate
plot about this girl who gets transferred to a different
school because the district's changed or something, and then this
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, sounds very familiar. But this movie, I feel like
has just had another round of like promo because it
got really popular on TikTok during COVID. Yeah, basically because
it was such a meme.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Wasn't there one scene she tries to do it, She's
doing okay, So the dance is called crumping okay, and
I wasn't gonna say that.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
The boy cheerleaders by teaching her how to crump, and
it's very like feels like more like a sporty, like
blocky kind of dance and she tries it and it's
not good.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, I'm asuming it wouldn't be good.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
It's not good. And then when I rewatched it after
when popping on TikTok, I physically had to fast forward
that scene because I forgot.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Okay, you can't agree it's one of your favorite movies
and say you have to I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Say one of my favorite movies, or so it is
one of my favorite cheerleader.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Movies, Okay, but you have to fast forward a scene.
I would never fast forward.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Rihanna, is it okay? So the whole thing, yeah, is
like all these Dan squads, all these cheerleading squads are
competing for this Rihanna competition because if you win the
competition and Rihanna's a judge, then you get to be
in Rihanna's new music video, plus you get money for
your school for computers. And Brittany is in this phase
(18:27):
of like I'm in this new dance squad and this
school actually needs the computers, like they actually need it.
Where's her old squad? They just want to be in
a Rihanna music via, So they're like, we're gonna beat you.
She was caught out kind of like telling some secrets
that she maybe shouldn't have a lot of misunderstandings happening.
She also her boyfriend was like an ex cheerleader and
(18:48):
then he went in college and became a total dick
and started dating one of the girls on her old team,
which is also a mean girl who took over Brittany.
So it's like a lot of bitchiness, Like the same
level of bitchiness is still there, like harsh critiques, but
it's so good. Also, someone in it who were completely
forgot is Francia Rasa, who plays Let, who's like Selena
Gomez's friends now enemy.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
They're back to being friends.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Well they're back to being friends. They're back to being friends.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I mean, look, she gave her a kidneys. That's that's
a high stage friendship.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
She is one of those actors, and she was in
the Blackish spinoff Grownish. She's always played a teenager slash
college student. Yeah, always her whole life. She's one of
those actors that can play the same role. She could
be like eighty and still.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Played And that's why I was upset when How I
Met your Mother got canceled even though that was horrendously
bad show. But it was her and Hilary Duff as
like the two lead characters, and I was like, give
those girls a chance. They're good at it.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
But that's Bring it On all and nothing. It's just
one of those movies. Like it was just the movie
that was around when I was ready to watch those movie.
So it was just like, well, cheerleader's a cool yeah,
and Crumbing's not crumbing. Hayden should not be crumping. Haydn't
please stop.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well, speaking of Bring it On, can I tell you
that kirs and Dunce, well, even though she was in
the mix to be the lead of that movie, she
originally turned it down because she didn't think it was
the right vibe for her and she thought it was
gonna be a bit silly. And the creators are like,
that's okay, we'll take the other very famous blonde, white
actress who's doing the rounds in every movie at the moment,
so we don't need you. Kirston does, and so they
(20:20):
offered the part to Marley Shelton.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Who's Marley Shelton?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
That's so mean? Who is that? That's a fair question,
that's a fair question. She's around a bit now. She
was like one of the Gita. Look, you will know
her face when you see her. Maybe you won't actually,
because she looks like every other blonde actress. But she
was like in like Valentine and all these other like movies.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
At the time, I recognize her face.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yes, yes, she's still working now. To be fair, she
was just a real girl of yes, yes, okay. She
was like the lead of some movies. In some movies
like Uptown Girls, she was like the supporting actress. But
she was, you know, very of the moment. So they
offered it to Marley, and Marley took the script away
and she read it and she thought about it, and
she was about to sign, and then she came back
to the producers and said, I'm so sorry. There are
(21:02):
two big cheerleading movies doing the rounds in Hollywood at
the moment, and I'm gonna take the other one because
the other one has the bigger cars, the biggest studio backing.
And everyone is saying that Bringing On is going to
tank and Sugar and Spice, which is the one that
she said yes to, is going to be one of
the biggest movies of the year. And I have to
go do the biggest movie of the year.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I haven't even heard of that movie.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Ye oh, Marley, she made the wrong But the thing
is in her defense, sometimes you just can't tell. I mean,
in my head, I was like, wasn't the script for
bringing On? I mean, the last time someone made that
big of a mistake was Christina Applegate turning down legally blonde.
Other thing is sometimes because they're like, please do this
movie and she was like, no, I'm doing another movie
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that sounds stupid. And now she was like, Christina Applegate's like,
obviously I regret that hugely, but also maybe Marley didn't know.
So she went on to make Sugar and Spice and
it didn't do great, but it has kind of picked
up a bit of a cult following over the years.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Today we get a cheer lab Jack high, I look
pretty big.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Squat Okay, Kansas pieces, could you try to keep your
voice down? Please? What I introducing anger under the wall?
How would you like me to introduce my foot into
your Lisa? Is that him? I had a lot of
work done.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I mean I had done a lot of work over
the summer, and.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Diane, I've loved you since I first saw you right
before you kick me in the head. I have an
announcement to me. We're getting married. So it came out
in two thousand and one, so it ended up coming
out after Bring It On, which was interesting because they
were meant to come out at the same time and
this one got delayed, and then I think they thought
that the Bring It On like publicity would like pass
(22:44):
over to this one. But it didn't do very well.
But it's got an all star car So it's got
Marla Solakoff, who was a huge name of the early
two thousands, Melissa George straight to Melissa George, who was
just starting to get a lot of traction in Hollywood
around that time. Mina Suvari who was again one of
the girls at the time like American Beauty and all
those kind of movies like Super Super Famous.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I kind of want to watch this movie.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I think you would really like you know, actually you'll
love it as I you the plot and James Marsden
heart throb of the moment. So Marley Shelton and James
Marsden play Diane and Jack. Now Diane and Jack. She's
the head cheerleader.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I love that couple.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, Diane and Jack she's the head cheerleader. He's the
head of the football team. They're so in love. Everyone
in school loves them, Their families love each.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Other, and everyone requirement it's the head.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I think so if that's what every movie has taught us.
And then they're about to go to I think I'm
going to like promo a dance or something. All their
families are together, they're all dressed up. They're celebrating them.
Diane and Jacket saying to their families like, we're in love,
and both their families like yeah, and they're like and
we're gonna get married one day. And everyone's like what,
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
If I did that to my parents, I'd be like,
get out.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And then Diane goes and I'm pregnant, dead silence. Their
families are furious. So they're in high school. They're like
the golden couple. They've become pregnant. Both of their families
disown them, like, if you want to have this baby,
you need to get out of their house. So they
have to move out. And they both still go to
school and cheerleading and playing on the football team, trying
to make ends meet, and like get ready to welcome
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this baby. And they have no money. Obviously, they're very,
very broke. They can't pay their rent, they can't buy food,
they can't keep going to school, and so they're just like,
what are we gonna do? And then Diane, who's like
like Jack is his whole thing is like he's very
sweet and like lovely, but he can't really get it
together and he can't lie, so he can't lie. It
is going to be a big part of the story.
(24:32):
So Diane gets together with her fellow cheerleaders and they're
trying to figure out what to do, and they decide
to start like robbing banks and stores and stuff. They
decide to like do a high why.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
The cheerleaders and they rob stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
They're helping her. Oh my god, this is what I mean.
That's true friendship. He is so true friendship. So it's
like true friends, we'll rob a bank. And so they
watch all of these like different highest movies to prepare,
and they start.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Out like, how we were trying to commit it told
the movies we watch.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
We just watch It's like how of Laurn Emily and
did this? It's like, oh, they've watched every Ocean's eleven movie.
And then they couldn't figure out how to turn the lock,
so they didn't do it, and so they kind of, Yeah,
they start like robbing a store and they work their
way upwards and one of the girls who's kind of
like in their all but at school, discovers that it's
them because they've got mass on. But when they're doing
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one of their first robberies, and this is why it's
a cheerleading movie, because cheerleading plays a part of the story,
they use their cheerleading moves to like evade the cameras
and like evade god me, like they got to like
backflip and like like mix the cameras and stuff. They've
got masks on, but they're just girls getting.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I can just imagine the security watching the going cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, but they've got these like rubber masks on with
like the faces so that you can't they just look
like but then they're like, wait, is that one backflipping
that one's doing a handstand just for the Yeah. So
they become this like famous group of like bandits. And
at this time James Marsten doesn't know and they start
playing this really big highs and they need a car
and he's you know, he's got a car, so like,
we're going to use the car for the getaway without
(26:03):
telling him. And then one day he comes home and
Jackie's surprises dying with an engage a ring. She's like,
oh my god, and she's like, how can we afford
this bit of many money in her head, she's like,
this is why I'm robbing banks for you, and he's like, oh,
I saw my car. She's like, fuck, we needed that
for the highest. So yeah, it kind of like goes
through that. So it's like very much a black comedy,
but like really well done. And I'm sad, like obviously
(26:24):
it's not Bringing All, like Bringing On is so much
smarter and better. But yeah, it's a really good movie
and I'm sad it did okay, but you would really
love it. It's called Sugar and Spice, so excited. Yeah,
it's got so many one liners. Melissa George is really
good in it. She usually plays like obviously she's on
Home and Away for so many years and then she
went and did like horror movies, some dramas, like she
(26:44):
was an alias, but I've never really seen her do
a comedy performance before. And her her characters like obsessed
with Conan O'Brien. It's like.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Mindy Kayling codey.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah. I actually feel like Mindy Kayling would remake this
into a series for Netflix. So well, because you've got
all the different cheerleaders have their own personalities and their
own like thing that they are, and they sort of
yet come together to pull off this bank robbery. So,
Sugar and Spice, I really want watch the ultimate cheerleading
movie and the worst mistake that Molly Shelton's ever made
my next movie. It's just gonna upset me. Yeah maybe.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Okay, so this isn't the cheerleading movie, nor is cheerleading
part of the storyline.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Okay, that literally was the one caveat for this whole podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
It just has the funniest cheerleading scene I've ever seen
in my life.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Okay, it is the hot chick Jessica Spencer, she's miss perfect.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Your life is like a fairy tale girl?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Are you the mom?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
She's Miss popular?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Turning your papers on the sale of witch trials? See here,
that's the only a that's not fair. She was the
only one who was actually there, but a curse is
about to turn her into.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
A miss her. I mean, come on, give me it.
Come on, come on, I mean, are there's.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
A cheerleading scene? Is it just chilling? Like move the
plot along?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I guess the cheerleading scene is integral to the plot.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Okay, then you're okay. This is no Jurassic Part cozy
Movies situation. I think you can skate by on this one.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Okay. So the Hot Chick think Freaking Friday.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
It was it kind of like the back of it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It did a lot of body swap movie.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yeah, there was a time there where body slot was really.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Everyone saw a Freaking Friday and like, let's do that.
So it's like a body swap movie and it stars
Rachel McAdams and Rob Schneider.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Was this like Rachel McAdam is one of her first
big roles, right yet? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Because I think like everyone told the Notebook and stuff,
and then I was like who was that girl? And
I was like, Oh, she's the girl in the Hot Chick.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Because she did this first right. Yeah, she didn't go
from the note.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Pod no, but like I feel like with like mean
girls and stuff, you're like, where else is she from?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, and it was Hot Chick.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Rachel McAdams plays Jess and Rob Schneider plays Clive, and
Jess is like very similar to like the classic cheerleader
main character, like Ted Cheerleader. She's very pretty, she's very rich,
she has everything going for her. Clive is a criminal,
a middle aged man who's a criminal. What happens is
(29:25):
Rachel she's out with the girls. They go like little
bargain shopping and I think this is a whole thing
which is quite sad on like why no one should
ever thrift, because what happened was is she bought these
really funky earrings. She loses one, so she's wearing one earring.
One falls out, is it? It's a peers steering.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Oh that doesn't seem very sanitary. Yeah, I'm sure it's fine.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
One falls out while they're going to get petrol in
their car. Rob Schneider who plays Clive. Clive works at
the petrol station.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Does he work at the petrol station? Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
He's at the petrol He sees the earring because it
fell out, right, So he sees the other earring and
he puts that earring in. Also not sanitary, and then
the earrings were actually magical and that's what makes them
sweat body.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's not quite sister with troubling pants. But it's the
same vibe magic and they's not bodies.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
They's not bodies, but instead of waking up in each
other's like environments, like yeah, like Rob Schneider suddenly like
Rachel McAdams, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So Rob's in like.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Rachels bend and he's like, what the hell, And then
there's this whole thing about like I have a penis
blah blah blah. Also Anna Ferris plays Rachel's best friend.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, what's the name? Jess plays I love Annas and anything.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
She's so funny and okay, coming to the cheerleading scene.
So Rob Schneider is like, I'm in a hot new body.
I'm a criminal. I'm going to use this body to
get as much money as I can. And Annas like
in Rob's body, and she's like, the world can't see me.
This is so embarrassing. She only confides with Anna about
like what's happened, and Anna believes her randomly, Well.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I'm sure there's a scene where she has to prove it, right.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, they do like a full like what's the name
of like my childhood year or whatever, So they figure
it out anyway, So the cheerleading scene. So Rachel Jess.
He is obsessed with cheer and she just wants her
team to succeed. So she sneaks into school with Anna
and she's wearing like this jacket and this hat and
these glasses to go watch the squad, and she's like
(31:25):
peering on the squad and then she sees her body,
so she's over there teaching the squad moves. So Rob
Schneider was able to get in there and teach the
girl the moves, and he's doing like this overly sexualized
type of dad. It's like he's very stiff that he's
doing the robot. It's like all confusing. So then wait,
now I'm confusing myself.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
This is actually such a complex movie.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Now I'm getting the bodies up. Okay, so Jess, which
is actually Clive, is doing the dad.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I'm following exactly. This is the Interstellar of teen movies.
I love.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I'm gonna get rid of the actor's names because now
I'm confusing my and Clive, who's actually Jess, is watching
it happen. So Clive, who's actually Jess, runs over and
is like, no, this is how you deal it, and
then starts teaching the actual routine and everyone's just following
along because they need this routine to move on. And
just the scene of watching Rob Schneider do a full
(32:21):
dance routine with the beautiful Rachel McAdams looking so stiff
next to him is the best thing I've ever seen.
It is so freakin funny, and I think that is
a part of the storyline where everyone starts figuring it out.
It is so well done. I think they're acting in
this like I'm not a big Rob Schneider fan.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Well, actually you do feel like he's core demographic.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, I'm a core demographic Adam Sandler fan. So I
feel like that's like in proxy with Rob Schneider.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah. I think that's where my love for Rob Scheiner
comes from, is that I just love Adam Sandler so much,
and he's.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
All the movie, all of Adam Sandler's movie, but just
watching Rob Schneider because he plays those like he's very
like physical comedy. He plays those roles really well. And
I think you can see Rachel McAdams really relax in
her role in the physical comedy element of horror role
because he just takes over and it's just done so
so well and and yes, it has a happy ending.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
And cheerleading does play a big partner.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
So one cheerleading scene, like I remember watching it as
a child and I was cry laugh it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Was so funny. Okay, the Hot Chick, right, the Hot
Chick up there with our favorite cheerleading movies. By default,
by technicality, I would say, okay, last one. And this
movie is one of the most important movies in the
last couple of decades, and it doesn't get talked about enough.
And I'm so thrilled that it fits into this genre
(33:42):
that we're talking about. Okay, it's called but I'm a cheerleader?
Free much free much right? S Yo? Free much Megan,
we love you.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Lately, we've become concerned about certain behaviors.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You don't have any pictures of guys, just these. You
don't even like to kiss me. It's true, honey.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
We think you're a yespian. I myself, what's it's a gay? Now?
I'm an ex gay Megan? Oh my god, have you
seen Okay, you need to watch this movie.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
But I feel like with the name, but what's it called?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
But I'm a cheerleader.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'm a cheerleader. Okay, So you listen to your own rules,
which is great.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yes, yes, Well at first I was just like, oh,
wait is this obviously that's the name of the movie.
But then I had to stick by the rules that
I made, and I sort of like thought about like
does cheerleading flit into the poor and yet it actually
saves the movie at the end, so it's really important.
So it's Natasha Leone obviously. Yeah. Yeah, it's one of
her first big, big movies movie come out. It came
out in nineteen ninety nine. And No, I didn't see
(34:44):
the cinema as a child. I saw it later. I
wasn't saw it. Yeah, No, I went to my friends
and I had a cocktail afterwards. No, I saw it
much later. It's become like a huge cult classic over
the years. It's on prime video. You have to watch it. Okay.
So natash l Own plays a Megan Bloomfield and she's
a cheerleader. She's in high school, she's a senior. All
(35:05):
these movies have a very similar threat. It starts off
with us saying and she's a beautiful blonde girl, and.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
She's like, I want to see a cheerleader. That's just like,
I fucking hate being.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Or it has to be maybe the rich, beautiful, confident
girl at school, because that's what cheerleading is. I guess
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I feel like everyone else has bigger problem.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I just love her. Every time we've started a describing movie,
we're like, she's blonde, she's beautiful, her family's super rich,
she's a captain of the cheerling squad. She's dating a
football player. She's dating Jarred. Now, it's all beautiful the
surface Red Jared, that's such a football player name, but
Megan isn't. She's like kissing Jared. No, he's a great
(35:45):
kisser and he is really hot, and she can't figure out.
She's like, why don't I like kissing him? Want She's
saying that she's in her head. She's like, this is weird.
But she also loves looking at her other cheerleaders doing
their dancing and like appreciating their moves. And then her
parents say to her, hey, you're a vegetarian, and you're
like and you like most Ethrige. It's a satirical comedy.
(36:07):
It's too funny. They're like, we think that you might
be a lesbian and not in our house, young lady.
No lesbians here, this is obviously like a horrific thing,
and like in the movie they do say like this
is obviously a bad thing, like and not being lied
about it, but it is a comedy. And so her
parents send her to this place called True Direction, which
is a two month long conversion therapy camp intended to
(36:30):
like for teenagers whose family are worry that they're showing
signs of being gay, and it's meant to like bring
the heterosexuality back to them through a five step program
where they rediscover their gender identity and they have to
even do things like simulate heterosexual intercourse to be like, yeah,
we'll get you back on the rife path. So very problematic,
but can I just say, like the movie makes it
(36:51):
very clear, like this is a terrible thing, like it's
played for laughs, but it's also just like this is bad,
so me can go to the camp. And she at
the time is like, yeah, okay, like I I don't
want to be gay, like my family's telling me no.
So I'm gonna go to this camp and I'm gonna
get myself fixed up and I'm gonna go back there.
She meets Graham, who's another girl in the camp played
by another standout actress. Yeah, yeah, that's the name Clear
(37:14):
deval oh Clear devoal youn't. She's in heaps of movies.
She's now a really incredible director. She recently directed Natasha
in Poker Face season two. Like they're still really really
good friends.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah. Clear has been in a lot of amazing things.
I mean she's been in like a lot of TV
like American Horror Story and stuff, and she's been like
a lot of movies. I remember, like just after this,
she was in The Faculty, which is an amazing tea movie.
But she's also become like a really amazing character directress
director over the years. So Clear and Megan start to
fall in love. Of course, it's really cute and lovely.
Rue Paul's in it, Like there's all these amazing yeah
(37:48):
cast members, and then towards the end when like they're
falling in love and they get caught like cooking up.
I just don't want to spoil because I want everyone
here to go and watch it. Meghan leaves and Graham
decides to stay behind the conversion camp because she's worried
about like her family disowning her. And then Meghan like
can't go home, she's to go stay with other people.
And then the people who have kind of like escaped
the conversion camp go to the graduation to try and
(38:11):
like bust their people out. So Megan goes there and
like it is trying to like show Graham her love.
And I don't want to spoil it, but I just
do want to say that she does a cheer at
the conversion ceremony that only not outs her as a
proud lesbian, but outs her love for this girl. And
she does it via being a cheerleader, and that's the
whole thing in the movie. Like people keep saying you're gay,
(38:31):
and she's like, but I'm a cheerleader. Cheerleaders can't be gay.
And at the end she's like, yeah, but I'm a
cheerleader and I'm in love with you. And it's really
beautiful and romantic and it's so funny, and again it's
like a satirical comedy and it makes a lot of
really kind of you know in nineteen ninety nine, like
guys like bring it on in a way, it makes
a lot of different like interesting like comments on society
and like there's like a lot of jokes and stuff,
(38:53):
but they're all making jokes of like the families who
would behave this way, the people that would behave this way.
And also it's so groundbreaking at the time and maybe
even now in some cases of mainstream pop culture to
have the love story just be between these two teenage
girls who just like fall it like they want to
be together.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
And I don't know how cheerleading saving.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
No, it's so good though. It's so good, and that's
how she knows to express herself. And she wants to
make a public statement a speech would have been that. No,
but she's a cheerleader. Okay, the whole point in the movie.
So I highly recommend if anyone hasn't watched that, I
feel like again it's become a cult classic. It's just
such a hidden gem of a movie. It launched all
these careers. It's on Prime video. That's where I watched
(39:34):
it recently because I just freaking love that movie. And yeah,
but I'm a cheerleader and I'm a cheerleader. Well that's
it for our Cheerleading wrap up today. What a beautiful time.
I should just say, we've had some late breaking news
this episode. For this episode, so our producer Georgie. While
we've been talking, has gone for a hunt on where
young Jesse Bradford is star Bring it on? Not seen
(39:55):
in many years. No, this is live, I'm reading it now.
Jesse Bradford update. She's a titled it.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Can we talk about how she said to the.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Over that? But yes, yes, we just realized our producer
Georgie has been messaging me for weeks and doesn't have
my number. To the person out there who got this
Jesse Bradford update before me, I'm I enjoyed. Okay, Jesse Bradford.
He has kids. That's oh and eighty six thousand Instagram followers,
quite a lot. I'm this is Georgie editorializing. She's deep
(40:29):
diveed on his Instagram and she says he does a
movie we've never heard of every two years, which is
the meanest thing I've ever heard any We did not
say that. We did not say that he travels a
lot and his dog just died. He travels a lot
of this dog just I'm sure he travels a lot more.
(40:50):
Now this is just name do we know?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Oh my god, between him and Megan Markle, these dogs
can't catch a break.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Oh my god, I feel so bad.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Make sure you send it to the wrong person first, Georgie,
no faster, that's such a dog's name.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Oh my god. Alright, I'm so sorry for your loss,
Jesse Bradford, and I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
This is.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Oh seven years, that's long. Can we go on tonight
and we even comment from the Spill podcast. I'm so sorry.
He looks so different.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Wow, oh Jesse, Oh Jesse, he's been through it. He's
really been.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
We haven't mentioned his kids' names, but his dog name, Buster,
has just passed.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Oh yeah, what's his kid's name.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Let's go find that, not do that. He's got a daughter, Maggie.
That's really cute.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Oh my gosh, he's a tourist like us.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
About this a maid? Okay, now we're really his family. Well,
I'm glad to know Jesse Bradford is doing well. Yeah,
I'm sorry. Sorry about your dog. Jesse's so sorry, Jesse,
and about your movie and about your career hanging their friend.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
But your daughter is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, that's important, crying for Buster.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
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your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm
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m Vernon, And boy do we have an exciting episode
for you today.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Because if you didn't know earlier this week, there's one
thing we've been talking about, and that is Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders.
We are obsessed.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
We know you're obsessed.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
We've watched all of the episodes, one of us in
one night, one of us watched it twice.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Let you decide who, but you can look at the
video and say who has bagged under our eyes to
pick who that is.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And I feel like the first season of Dallas Cowboys
Cheerleaders when it came out, everyone just went into this
like big hole of indulging and only cheerleader content. And
I think we do this when we finally get context
of the actual industry. And that's exactly what we're doing today.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yes, in celebration of everyone being a cheerleader, at least
in spirit for a week, watching Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders and
really immersing ourselves in that world. Today's episode is dedicated
to the very best cheerleader movies of all time. It's
so interesting that putting this list together, I realized how
much I was almost as much as I say, like, oh,
I didn't know the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders existed and all
(01:35):
that sort of stuff, which is true before the Netflix show,
But I did realize how much I was raised by
the American cheerleader system because it's such a prominent thing
in so many of my favorite TV shows over the years,
my favorite movies, like for me, like growing up as
a kid, seeing like cheerleaders in high school movies mostly
was the epitome of cool.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And it's so interesting the different type of cheerleaders that are,
like I think the movies we were brought up with.
It really shows cheerleading as an individual sport. Yeah, and
there's so many iconic lines in these movies where the
cheerleading team is more important than the football team. And
they even say that cheerleading for the game is just
(02:15):
only a small part of what we do. Yes, Like
we're actually a stand alone like sport. We have our
own competitions. It's a huge, huge, deal, especially in the US.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yes, exactly, and we all grow up watching American TV
and movies, so that's what we were raised on. So
on that thread, though, we should just say there's so
many movies that do feature cheerleaders or cheerleading as part
of the plot. But for today we had to define.
Well I had to define. I was like, you know,
how define after I chose my movies. Well, I hope
you follow the rules because, as you know, I'm super
(02:44):
easy going and I love a fun, loose podcast. As
long as we have a strict.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think producers should just like jump to our last
Briddley Honest review.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yes, where we did cozy movies and Emily said Jurassic Park.
And to be honest, we haven't spoken since this is
the first time we've been in a room together.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
If we wanted to see panic visualized on LB's face,
we have posted that on our Instagram as a steal podcast.
So go look at that, because a minute I talked
about Jurassic Park, I just saw all the light leave
your face.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
This is your momentary deem yourself if you follow the rules,
because we right now I have not. I So we're
defining a cheerleading movie where not just someone who is
a character who is a cheerleader or someone who wears
a cheerleading uniform, but where cheerleading plays a fundamental part
of the main plot. Because there's a lot of movies
like we will looking at the list where cheerleaders were mentioned,
(03:31):
and like movies like Jennifer's Body was on their incredible
horror movie, but cheerleading not really part of the pot.
She wears a uniform, whereas all the ones I have
on my list. Cheerleading saves the day and sometimes it
saves lives. So that's how we're defining it. You better
have a proper list.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Two movies that I want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Okay, Well, to lead you into that, first of all,
we have to start with I think we can all agree.
This is the one area where I think everyone agrees on.
The one thing is that Bring It On is the
greatest cheerleading movie of all time. Twelve So Grez, oh
(04:18):
my god, Okay, we're gonna get to it because we're
going to talk about the Bring It Off off shoots.
It's sporn to cinematic universe. Can I just have one
moment to follow them? Please? Go?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, Bring It On? Was definitely the first movie that
changed my life as a child. Like you were so
young and I was sitting there and I was like,
oh my god, I didn't understand a thing that happened.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah except for the dances, oh yeah, because you would
have been quiet. So it came out in the year
two thousand. I remember I was a tween at the time.
This sent center stage with the two movies. I have
a very visceral memory of going to see it with
my friends. I mean the first time I was allowed
to go out to the movies without a parent. So
I remember going to see Bringing On as a Saturday night.
I think we'd called the movie line to like pre
book our tickets because we knew it was going to
(04:59):
be sold out. There's not a lot to do in
Townsville when you're fourteen or whatever it was. And I
remember we all went and watched this movie, and like
all the kids from every high school were like all
their was like sitting in their groups because it was
the opening weekend and I'm just watching Bring It On
and just being like this is cinema, Like it was
so incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Teen movies back then, like in the early two thousands
were just the best form of movies ever because it
wasn't catered for adults, which I feel like some teen
movies now do they cater it for the parent because
I want the parents to allow their children to watch it.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Back then, no one gave a shit.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
They were just like, you go and make what you want.
They wanted to make money, but also it could have
a really clever social commentary as well as being like
a funny, sexy movie. And the thing is we had
very high expectations for teen movies back then. Yes, like
some of this shlocky stuff that gets put on Netflix,
we wouldn't have no, no, no all. So you're going to
a cinema paying twenty dollars? Do we have many shifts
that came out. I had to work to earn that
(05:59):
twenty dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I'm pretty good.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Go to the movie.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I'm pretty sure that movie was like so many people's
like sexual.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Understanding, oh one hundred. I found out about sex the
first time. I think watching that movie. Okay, I love
that for you, And that was a different way to
learn about.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
It, very different. And I would not recommend.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
If anyone who can't quite remember the plot, which I'm
going to assume everyone listening to this podcast has seen it.
Kirsten Dunce, who is still an incredible actress, but in
the early two thousands was the girl the lead of
every amazing movie, particularly teen movies. We'd watched her grow
up since she was in her first film, Interview with
the Vampire, and this was kind of also a huge
star making turn for her. So she plays Torrance Shipman.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Hurry.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well, it's funny that her name's Torrance and the toros
at her cheerleading squad.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
That's what confused me as a child. I thought she
owned the cheerleading stode. I thought that there was like
it could have just made it a bit different.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's an interesting story throw that no one's really explained
because I remember thinking when I first watched the movie, like,
is her family such an intense like fan of this
high school cheerleading squad in the football team that they
named their daughter after it. But it was just meant
to be like a fun thing. So she's going into
her senior year and she's all she cares about as
being a cheerleader and her squad, and she wants to
lead them to the finals. And she finally gets voted captain,
(07:11):
only to realize that the captain before her, Big Red,
had stolen all of their cheers I love how you
look at me like you didn't know this. You're had
stolen all of their cheerleading dances and sequences, everything from
the Clovers, which were a neighboring squad but from a
less rich area really and like the rival danced, yes,
(07:32):
and so they didn't have the means to like go
to finals and compete and all that sort of stuff,
so the Toros could just steal everything from them. An
elite cast, I should just say, so, we've got Kirston Dunce.
We've also got Elijah Justscoup, who I cannot stress enough
superstar of the moment. She had already played Faith on
Buffy the Vampire Slayer and because she played the bad
girl in this, Claire Kramer from Buffy, who plays Glory,
(07:54):
was also one of the cheerleaders, and also Jesse Bradford.
At the height of Jesse Bradford, it was downhill after that.
I've got to say for him, was it Oh yeah,
I guess he went to star in a few different things,
but it was.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Like, was he an American pie?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
No, you're thinking of Jason Biggs. They do like very
exact same. That is a different man. So Jesse Bradford
was You're like, man, that guy had a great year.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Did he go down for.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Jason Bigs? Are still working? Yeah, Jesse Bradford, I'm sure
it is fine. I haven't seen him in a while.
I hope he's doing well. Hope he's I'm sure he is.
Can I just say if I ever saw Jesse Bradford,
I'd say my fourteen year old self was head over
heels in love with you from that and Swim Things.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Two brush scene, Yeah, the brushing the teeth.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
They auditioned so many actors for that role because it
had to be a really particular person to play the
love interest and the brother and had that quirky.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And to be intriguing but also a bit goofy but
also sexy.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And also Terrence also had that terrible boyfriend who was
a cheerleader and then went to college and was awful
to her, so he had to be like the anti
of that. So they auditioned so many actors and the
actor who almost got it was James Franco. Oh no,
so it was going to be I mean that it
was like peak James Franco.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Before he had, but I don't think he pulled off the.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Brother He would have been slimy. Yeah, so the origin
of it on It was actually written by a journalist,
Jessica Bendinger, so you know, big things could happen for us.
One day and she was really obsessed with watching cheerleading
competitions on TV and just watch how intense it was,
how all the teams had rivalries but sometimes they would
(09:28):
come together and their backstories, and she was like, this
is so much more interesting to me than all the
football movies and everything that's out there. So she worked
on developing the movie and when she was trying to
sell it to networks, she builled it as Clueless meats
strictly ballroom. Oh I love that. Isn't that the best timeline?
So despite like writing the script and getting it all together,
(09:48):
she then pitched it to twenty eight different studios before
someone finally said, yes.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I'm obsessed with that. Oh it's such a good film.
But can we talk about quickly?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
The opening scene?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yes, please give me your thoughts to night, because again,
the opening scene a masterpiece.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Me as a six year old child, was freaking out.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So the opening scene is like Bam Bam band. There's
no cold opens here, so it's like a dream sequence.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Tori Torrence is gonna call a Tory no because her
name is Torrance tom So that's a weird thing to say.
Kirsten Houston, Sorry, No, you're doing so great. You're going.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Torrance is in the middle of a dancer team. She's
killing the words. It's all about her. You know the
song I No, No, I don't want to do it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
No, I'm sexy, I'm cute, ipulative, I'm bitching great hair.
The boys will like to stare.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, I don't want to keep going. I'm quite nervous.
I hate this this and.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I'm like in the dream, I know, well that's the thing.
It's that idea of getting up and someone saying do this,
and you're like, I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Anyway, So she's like landing all the moves. She's like
the head cheerleader in this dream. And then she gets
up and she's like go Toro, and she's.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Naked and she just realized. The whole audience goes and
then a boom. Yeah great, that's also interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
One guy collapsed, Yeah, which is what would happen in
a high school movie like that. That's such a good
setup because it's not like a lot of over explaining
it all of a sudden, like you have this. It
sets the tone of the yeah that it's smart and
funny and a bit silly. It's it's the tone you're
immediately in this girl's head. So when she goes to
school for the vote, you're like already like in it
with her, and you know who all the other cheerleads,
like every other cheerleader on the team like instantly falls
(11:24):
into place.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So I'm everything You're not, Yes exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
There's so many bangers in that. Also a big role
for Gabrielle Union, who's gone on to be a real
superstar playing isis God. She's so good, it's so incredible.
It's so interesting her. I mean, there's so many layers
to this movie that I don't know if as many
teen movies do now. She was modeled after like a
top tier athlete, so they looked at like all the
different like interviews that all these top tier athletes had
(11:50):
given how they talk and how they speak to their
team and how they think, and put all of that
into her into that character, and that's why she seems
like goddess like and other worldly as she moves through
the movie, because she's meant to be like a pro athlete,
so amazing. So no one thought the movie was gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Watch the Spirit stick.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah this again, this movie. It's so funny how the
mentioned Clueless when she was pitching the movie, because Clueless
has gone on to like define the way people speak,
the way there are furred things, and without even knowing it,
like Clueless is like referenced in so many other movies
and bring it on, I'd say from that era, like
bring it on to mean Girls are the two movies
that we still talk about, like over twenty years later,
(12:28):
just because of the way they like changed our like
lexicon and change like quotes and all that sort of thing.
It's crazy. And also no one thought this movie would
do well. It was kind of being like, oh, that
silly Cheerley to movie. And they also nearly had to
stop production halfway through filming because half the cast got
arrested in Mexico. Not Kiirston Dunce. I feel like Eliza
Deuscu led the charge. They all like rented a van
(12:48):
one weekend when they were like halfway through filming, drove
across the border to like party in Mexico and then
got detained. Oh my god. They had to like ring
the studio and get them. They just like got to
set them filming on a Monday morning and was like
where's where is it asked except for little Kist and
Dunce because she was like much younger than everyone else,
so she's like there or ready to go, and like
where's the cart And they get a phone call being
(13:09):
like there. I don't know if they were actually like
in jail, but they were like they had been detained
and they had to go and spring them from Mexico.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
That's the best story.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
And then when the movie opened it was number one
for two weeks in North America and like then the
rest of the world, we cater more movies to young
women exactly, we.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Will show up.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And again the cast wasn't expecting it to be so big.
They got like a call from one of the reviewers
being like, so everyone's saying this movie is great. So
the night it came out, the night Bringing On came out,
all the cars like all those teen and like early
twenties actors who played the cheerleaders, rented a van and
drove around to all the cinemas in LA and like
would walk in and like see everyone screaming and laughing
(13:46):
and see all the cinemas packed with people, and they
were like, Holy hell, people like this movie.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And they were so young as well. Yeah, oh that
would have been so good.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
But at the end, and this is coming back to
the theme of this movie, cheerleading saved the day because
it brought them together. It taught them leadership. That was
the point of the movie. Okay, okay, what are you
gonna say?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So as much as I love Bring It On, it
was the first Bring it On I washed, but it
wasn't the one that like came out when I was
in that phase where I could watch cheerleader movies and
understand them, like watch teen girl movies and understand them.
It was another bring it on, bring it on all
or nothing shroc Yeah that's a pud.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, might not shake it. Yeah, boys, I'm mummy. I'm
not super well versed in the other bringing on movies.
Which one is that?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Hayden Pantiri and Solange Nos.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I mean so unreds.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I love Solange Knowles is so good in this So
you haven't watched this one.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
No, I have watched it many many years ago. This thing,
I wouldn't critique these movies that Bring It Off spinoff movies.
I wouldn't critique them if I hadn't seen them. So
I have. I'm just not super placed of which ones were.
My only issue with them is like, the studios obviously
saw how financially successful Bring It On was and how
much people loved it, so they made eight more, and
they made eight more, which I'm fine with on board,
but they missed the thing that people liked about the
(15:12):
first movie, which was that it was very smart. It
was like cuttingly funny. It also had this amazing critique
of society and how people like view each other, and
that's what people liked. And they said, you know what,
here's eight dumb movies to follow. That's what the chicks want.
They just want to come see other girls dance and
cheerleader outfits. And it's like, you literally missed the whole
point that Bring It On was trying to teach you.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It's kind of true because Bring It On All or
Nothing and a lot of the other ones. I have
watched most of them it's the same plot. It's literally
the same same plot every time. Yeah, so a little
bit has changed. So Hayden plays Britney Allen, who's like
the head cheerleader in this really preppy high end school.
She lives in this mansion with her parents. She's like,
(15:56):
drives her own car. She's very cool, she's very rich.
Everything's pink. Love that her dad loses his job, which
means she has to transfer schools into a quote unquote
rougher area not Los Angeles, which basically means she's the
only white girl at this whole.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
School at this very save the last dance.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So Solange Andole's plays Camille, who's like the head cheerleader
of the school that Brittany gets transferred to. And they
are so good.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
They're more like rather than like the big like I.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Guess Dallas cheerleaders curated moves. It's more like dance like fresh.
They take like a fresher approach towards cheerleading. Brittany joins
the team and there's like squabbles right because Brittany's like,
I used to be her cheerleader, so I can lead
this team. Yahman, It's like this is literally my team.
What's going on. At the same time, Brittany's like trying
(16:50):
to get in with her new friends, but she also
doesn't want to give up her life. And then she
slowly realizes that her friends from her old school when
she goes back to their prom are just bitches.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So this is pretty much the plot of Bringing On
the Musical.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Maybe maybe Bringing On the Musical is after Bringing On All.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
People go and see Bringing On the Musical, which is
like a wildly successful Broadway show, thinking it's gonna be
Bringing On the movie, but it's got a whole separate
plot about this girl who gets transferred to a different
school because the district's changed or something, and then this
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, sounds very familiar. But this movie, I feel like
has just had another round of like promo because it
got really popular on TikTok during COVID. Yeah, basically because
it was such a meme.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Wasn't there one scene she tries to do it, She's
doing okay, So the dance is called crumping okay, and
I wasn't gonna say that.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
The boy cheerleaders by teaching her how to crump, and
it's very like feels like more like a sporty, like
blocky kind of dance and she tries it and it's
not good.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, I'm asuming it wouldn't be good.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
It's not good. And then when I rewatched it after
when popping on TikTok, I physically had to fast forward
that scene because I forgot.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Okay, you can't agree it's one of your favorite movies
and say you have to I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Say one of my favorite movies, or so it is
one of my favorite cheerleader.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Movies, Okay, but you have to fast forward a scene.
I would never fast forward.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Rihanna, is it okay? So the whole thing, yeah, is
like all these Dan squads, all these cheerleading squads are
competing for this Rihanna competition because if you win the
competition and Rihanna's a judge, then you get to be
in Rihanna's new music video, plus you get money for
your school for computers. And Brittany is in this phase
(18:27):
of like I'm in this new dance squad and this
school actually needs the computers, like they actually need it.
Where's her old squad? They just want to be in
a Rihanna music via, So they're like, we're gonna beat you.
She was caught out kind of like telling some secrets
that she maybe shouldn't have a lot of misunderstandings happening.
She also her boyfriend was like an ex cheerleader and
(18:48):
then he went in college and became a total dick
and started dating one of the girls on her old team,
which is also a mean girl who took over Brittany.
So it's like a lot of bitchiness, Like the same
level of bitchiness is still there, like harsh critiques, but
it's so good. Also, someone in it who were completely
forgot is Francia Rasa, who plays Let, who's like Selena
Gomez's friends now enemy.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
They're back to being friends.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Well they're back to being friends. They're back to being friends.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I mean, look, she gave her a kidneys. That's that's
a high stage friendship.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
She is one of those actors, and she was in
the Blackish spinoff Grownish. She's always played a teenager slash
college student. Yeah, always her whole life. She's one of
those actors that can play the same role. She could
be like eighty and still.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Played And that's why I was upset when How I
Met your Mother got canceled even though that was horrendously
bad show. But it was her and Hilary Duff as
like the two lead characters, and I was like, give
those girls a chance. They're good at it.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
But that's Bring it On all and nothing. It's just
one of those movies. Like it was just the movie
that was around when I was ready to watch those movie.
So it was just like, well, cheerleader's a cool yeah,
and Crumbing's not crumbing. Hayden should not be crumping. Haydn't
please stop.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well, speaking of Bring it On, can I tell you
that kirs and Dunce, well, even though she was in
the mix to be the lead of that movie, she
originally turned it down because she didn't think it was
the right vibe for her and she thought it was
gonna be a bit silly. And the creators are like,
that's okay, we'll take the other very famous blonde, white
actress who's doing the rounds in every movie at the moment,
so we don't need you. Kirston does, and so they
(20:20):
offered the part to Marley Shelton.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Who's Marley Shelton?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
That's so mean? Who is that? That's a fair question,
that's a fair question. She's around a bit now. She
was like one of the Gita. Look, you will know
her face when you see her. Maybe you won't actually,
because she looks like every other blonde actress. But she
was like in like Valentine and all these other like movies.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
At the time, I recognize her face.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yes, yes, she's still working now. To be fair, she
was just a real girl of yes, yes, okay. She
was like the lead of some movies. In some movies
like Uptown Girls, she was like the supporting actress. But
she was, you know, very of the moment. So they
offered it to Marley, and Marley took the script away
and she read it and she thought about it, and
she was about to sign, and then she came back
to the producers and said, I'm so sorry. There are
(21:02):
two big cheerleading movies doing the rounds in Hollywood at
the moment, and I'm gonna take the other one because
the other one has the bigger cars, the biggest studio backing.
And everyone is saying that Bringing On is going to
tank and Sugar and Spice, which is the one that
she said yes to, is going to be one of
the biggest movies of the year. And I have to
go do the biggest movie of the year.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I haven't even heard of that movie.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Ye oh, Marley, she made the wrong But the thing
is in her defense, sometimes you just can't tell. I mean,
in my head, I was like, wasn't the script for
bringing On? I mean, the last time someone made that
big of a mistake was Christina Applegate turning down legally blonde.
Other thing is sometimes because they're like, please do this
movie and she was like, no, I'm doing another movie
(21:45):
that sounds stupid. And now she was like, Christina Applegate's like,
obviously I regret that hugely, but also maybe Marley didn't know.
So she went on to make Sugar and Spice and
it didn't do great, but it has kind of picked
up a bit of a cult following over the years.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Today we get a cheer lab Jack high, I look
pretty big.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Squat Okay, Kansas pieces, could you try to keep your
voice down? Please? What I introducing anger under the wall?
How would you like me to introduce my foot into
your Lisa? Is that him? I had a lot of
work done.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I mean I had done a lot of work over
the summer, and.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Diane, I've loved you since I first saw you right
before you kick me in the head. I have an
announcement to me. We're getting married. So it came out
in two thousand and one, so it ended up coming
out after Bring It On, which was interesting because they
were meant to come out at the same time and
this one got delayed, and then I think they thought
that the Bring It On like publicity would like pass
(22:44):
over to this one. But it didn't do very well.
But it's got an all star car So it's got
Marla Solakoff, who was a huge name of the early
two thousands, Melissa George straight to Melissa George, who was
just starting to get a lot of traction in Hollywood
around that time. Mina Suvari who was again one of
the girls at the time like American Beauty and all
those kind of movies like Super Super Famous.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I kind of want to watch this movie.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I think you would really like you know, actually you'll
love it as I you the plot and James Marsden
heart throb of the moment. So Marley Shelton and James
Marsden play Diane and Jack. Now Diane and Jack. She's
the head cheerleader.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I love that couple.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, Diane and Jack she's the head cheerleader. He's the
head of the football team. They're so in love. Everyone
in school loves them, Their families love each.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Other, and everyone requirement it's the head.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I think so if that's what every movie has taught us.
And then they're about to go to I think I'm
going to like promo a dance or something. All their
families are together, they're all dressed up. They're celebrating them.
Diane and Jacket saying to their families like, we're in love,
and both their families like yeah, and they're like and
we're gonna get married one day. And everyone's like what,
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
If I did that to my parents, I'd be like,
get out.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And then Diane goes and I'm pregnant, dead silence. Their
families are furious. So they're in high school. They're like
the golden couple. They've become pregnant. Both of their families
disown them, like, if you want to have this baby,
you need to get out of their house. So they
have to move out. And they both still go to
school and cheerleading and playing on the football team, trying
to make ends meet, and like get ready to welcome
(24:11):
this baby. And they have no money. Obviously, they're very,
very broke. They can't pay their rent, they can't buy food,
they can't keep going to school, and so they're just like,
what are we gonna do? And then Diane, who's like
like Jack is his whole thing is like he's very
sweet and like lovely, but he can't really get it
together and he can't lie, so he can't lie. It
is going to be a big part of the story.
(24:32):
So Diane gets together with her fellow cheerleaders and they're
trying to figure out what to do, and they decide
to start like robbing banks and stores and stuff. They
decide to like do a high why.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
The cheerleaders and they rob stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
They're helping her. Oh my god, this is what I mean.
That's true friendship. He is so true friendship. So it's
like true friends, we'll rob a bank. And so they
watch all of these like different highest movies to prepare,
and they start.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Out like, how we were trying to commit it told
the movies we watch.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
We just watch It's like how of Laurn Emily and
did this? It's like, oh, they've watched every Ocean's eleven movie.
And then they couldn't figure out how to turn the lock,
so they didn't do it, and so they kind of, Yeah,
they start like robbing a store and they work their
way upwards and one of the girls who's kind of
like in their all but at school, discovers that it's
them because they've got mass on. But when they're doing
(25:17):
one of their first robberies, and this is why it's
a cheerleading movie, because cheerleading plays a part of the story,
they use their cheerleading moves to like evade the cameras
and like evade god me, like they got to like
backflip and like like mix the cameras and stuff. They've
got masks on, but they're just girls getting.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I can just imagine the security watching the going cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, but they've got these like rubber masks on with
like the faces so that you can't they just look
like but then they're like, wait, is that one backflipping
that one's doing a handstand just for the Yeah. So
they become this like famous group of like bandits. And
at this time James Marsten doesn't know and they start
playing this really big highs and they need a car
and he's you know, he's got a car, so like,
we're going to use the car for the getaway without
(26:03):
telling him. And then one day he comes home and
Jackie's surprises dying with an engage a ring. She's like,
oh my god, and she's like, how can we afford
this bit of many money in her head, she's like,
this is why I'm robbing banks for you, and he's like, oh,
I saw my car. She's like, fuck, we needed that
for the highest. So yeah, it kind of like goes
through that. So it's like very much a black comedy,
but like really well done. And I'm sad, like obviously
(26:24):
it's not Bringing All, like Bringing On is so much
smarter and better. But yeah, it's a really good movie
and I'm sad it did okay, but you would really
love it. It's called Sugar and Spice, so excited. Yeah,
it's got so many one liners. Melissa George is really
good in it. She usually plays like obviously she's on
Home and Away for so many years and then she
went and did like horror movies, some dramas, like she
(26:44):
was an alias, but I've never really seen her do
a comedy performance before. And her her characters like obsessed
with Conan O'Brien. It's like.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Mindy Kayling codey.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah. I actually feel like Mindy Kayling would remake this
into a series for Netflix. So well, because you've got
all the different cheerleaders have their own personalities and their
own like thing that they are, and they sort of
yet come together to pull off this bank robbery. So,
Sugar and Spice, I really want watch the ultimate cheerleading
movie and the worst mistake that Molly Shelton's ever made
my next movie. It's just gonna upset me. Yeah maybe.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Okay, so this isn't the cheerleading movie, nor is cheerleading
part of the storyline.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Okay, that literally was the one caveat for this whole podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
It just has the funniest cheerleading scene I've ever seen
in my life.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Okay, it is the hot chick Jessica Spencer, she's miss perfect.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Your life is like a fairy tale girl?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Are you the mom?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
She's Miss popular?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Turning your papers on the sale of witch trials? See here,
that's the only a that's not fair. She was the
only one who was actually there, but a curse is
about to turn her into.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
A miss her. I mean, come on, give me it.
Come on, come on, I mean, are there's.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
A cheerleading scene? Is it just chilling? Like move the
plot along?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I guess the cheerleading scene is integral to the plot.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Okay, then you're okay. This is no Jurassic Part cozy
Movies situation. I think you can skate by on this one.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Okay. So the Hot Chick think Freaking Friday.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
It was it kind of like the back of it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It did a lot of body swap movie.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yeah, there was a time there where body slot was really.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Everyone saw a Freaking Friday and like, let's do that.
So it's like a body swap movie and it stars
Rachel McAdams and Rob Schneider.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Was this like Rachel McAdam is one of her first
big roles, right yet? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Because I think like everyone told the Notebook and stuff,
and then I was like who was that girl? And
I was like, Oh, she's the girl in the Hot Chick.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Because she did this first right. Yeah, she didn't go
from the note.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Pod no, but like I feel like with like mean
girls and stuff, you're like, where else is she from?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, and it was Hot Chick.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Rachel McAdams plays Jess and Rob Schneider plays Clive, and
Jess is like very similar to like the classic cheerleader
main character, like Ted Cheerleader. She's very pretty, she's very rich,
she has everything going for her. Clive is a criminal,
a middle aged man who's a criminal. What happens is
(29:25):
Rachel she's out with the girls. They go like little
bargain shopping and I think this is a whole thing
which is quite sad on like why no one should
ever thrift, because what happened was is she bought these
really funky earrings. She loses one, so she's wearing one earring.
One falls out, is it? It's a peers steering.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Oh that doesn't seem very sanitary. Yeah, I'm sure it's fine.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
One falls out while they're going to get petrol in
their car. Rob Schneider who plays Clive. Clive works at
the petrol station.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Does he work at the petrol station? Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
He's at the petrol He sees the earring because it
fell out, right, So he sees the other earring and
he puts that earring in. Also not sanitary, and then
the earrings were actually magical and that's what makes them
sweat body.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's not quite sister with troubling pants. But it's the
same vibe magic and they's not bodies.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
They's not bodies, but instead of waking up in each
other's like environments, like yeah, like Rob Schneider suddenly like
Rachel McAdams, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So Rob's in like.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Rachels bend and he's like, what the hell, And then
there's this whole thing about like I have a penis
blah blah blah. Also Anna Ferris plays Rachel's best friend.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, what's the name? Jess plays I love Annas and anything.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
She's so funny and okay, coming to the cheerleading scene.
So Rob Schneider is like, I'm in a hot new body.
I'm a criminal. I'm going to use this body to
get as much money as I can. And Annas like
in Rob's body, and she's like, the world can't see me.
This is so embarrassing. She only confides with Anna about
like what's happened, and Anna believes her randomly, Well.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I'm sure there's a scene where she has to prove it, right.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, they do like a full like what's the name
of like my childhood year or whatever, So they figure
it out anyway, So the cheerleading scene. So Rachel Jess.
He is obsessed with cheer and she just wants her
team to succeed. So she sneaks into school with Anna
and she's wearing like this jacket and this hat and
these glasses to go watch the squad, and she's like
(31:25):
peering on the squad and then she sees her body,
so she's over there teaching the squad moves. So Rob
Schneider was able to get in there and teach the
girl the moves, and he's doing like this overly sexualized
type of dad. It's like he's very stiff that he's
doing the robot. It's like all confusing. So then wait,
now I'm confusing myself.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
This is actually such a complex movie.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Now I'm getting the bodies up. Okay, so Jess, which
is actually Clive, is doing the dad.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I'm following exactly. This is the Interstellar of teen movies.
I love.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I'm gonna get rid of the actor's names because now
I'm confusing my and Clive, who's actually Jess, is watching
it happen. So Clive, who's actually Jess, runs over and
is like, no, this is how you deal it, and
then starts teaching the actual routine and everyone's just following
along because they need this routine to move on. And
just the scene of watching Rob Schneider do a full
(32:21):
dance routine with the beautiful Rachel McAdams looking so stiff
next to him is the best thing I've ever seen.
It is so freakin funny, and I think that is
a part of the storyline where everyone starts figuring it out.
It is so well done. I think they're acting in
this like I'm not a big Rob Schneider fan.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Well, actually you do feel like he's core demographic.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, I'm a core demographic Adam Sandler fan. So I
feel like that's like in proxy with Rob Schneider.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah. I think that's where my love for Rob Scheiner
comes from, is that I just love Adam Sandler so much,
and he's.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
All the movie, all of Adam Sandler's movie, but just
watching Rob Schneider because he plays those like he's very
like physical comedy. He plays those roles really well. And
I think you can see Rachel McAdams really relax in
her role in the physical comedy element of horror role
because he just takes over and it's just done so
so well and and yes, it has a happy ending.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
And cheerleading does play a big partner.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
So one cheerleading scene, like I remember watching it as
a child and I was cry laugh it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Was so funny. Okay, the Hot Chick, right, the Hot
Chick up there with our favorite cheerleading movies. By default,
by technicality, I would say, okay, last one. And this
movie is one of the most important movies in the
last couple of decades, and it doesn't get talked about enough.
And I'm so thrilled that it fits into this genre
(33:42):
that we're talking about. Okay, it's called but I'm a cheerleader?
Free much free much right? S Yo? Free much Megan,
we love you.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Lately, we've become concerned about certain behaviors.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You don't have any pictures of guys, just these. You
don't even like to kiss me. It's true, honey.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
We think you're a yespian. I myself, what's it's a gay? Now?
I'm an ex gay Megan? Oh my god, have you
seen Okay, you need to watch this movie.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
But I feel like with the name, but what's it called?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
But I'm a cheerleader.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'm a cheerleader. Okay, So you listen to your own rules,
which is great.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yes, yes, Well at first I was just like, oh,
wait is this obviously that's the name of the movie.
But then I had to stick by the rules that
I made, and I sort of like thought about like
does cheerleading flit into the poor and yet it actually
saves the movie at the end, so it's really important.
So it's Natasha Leone obviously. Yeah. Yeah, it's one of
her first big, big movies movie come out. It came
out in nineteen ninety nine. And No, I didn't see
(34:44):
the cinema as a child. I saw it later. I
wasn't saw it. Yeah, No, I went to my friends
and I had a cocktail afterwards. No, I saw it
much later. It's become like a huge cult classic over
the years. It's on prime video. You have to watch it. Okay.
So natash l Own plays a Megan Bloomfield and she's
a cheerleader. She's in high school, she's a senior. All
(35:05):
these movies have a very similar threat. It starts off
with us saying and she's a beautiful blonde girl, and.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
She's like, I want to see a cheerleader. That's just like,
I fucking hate being.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Or it has to be maybe the rich, beautiful, confident
girl at school, because that's what cheerleading is. I guess
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I feel like everyone else has bigger problem.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I just love her. Every time we've started a describing movie,
we're like, she's blonde, she's beautiful, her family's super rich,
she's a captain of the cheerling squad. She's dating a
football player. She's dating Jarred. Now, it's all beautiful the
surface Red Jared, that's such a football player name, but
Megan isn't. She's like kissing Jared. No, he's a great
(35:45):
kisser and he is really hot, and she can't figure out.
She's like, why don't I like kissing him? Want She's
saying that she's in her head. She's like, this is weird.
But she also loves looking at her other cheerleaders doing
their dancing and like appreciating their moves. And then her
parents say to her, hey, you're a vegetarian, and you're
like and you like most Ethrige. It's a satirical comedy.
(36:07):
It's too funny. They're like, we think that you might
be a lesbian and not in our house, young lady.
No lesbians here, this is obviously like a horrific thing,
and like in the movie they do say like this
is obviously a bad thing, like and not being lied
about it, but it is a comedy. And so her
parents send her to this place called True Direction, which
is a two month long conversion therapy camp intended to
(36:30):
like for teenagers whose family are worry that they're showing
signs of being gay, and it's meant to like bring
the heterosexuality back to them through a five step program
where they rediscover their gender identity and they have to
even do things like simulate heterosexual intercourse to be like, yeah,
we'll get you back on the rife path. So very problematic,
but can I just say, like the movie makes it
(36:51):
very clear, like this is a terrible thing, like it's
played for laughs, but it's also just like this is bad,
so me can go to the camp. And she at
the time is like, yeah, okay, like I I don't
want to be gay, like my family's telling me no.
So I'm gonna go to this camp and I'm gonna
get myself fixed up and I'm gonna go back there.
She meets Graham, who's another girl in the camp played
by another standout actress. Yeah, yeah, that's the name Clear
(37:14):
deval oh Clear devoal youn't. She's in heaps of movies.
She's now a really incredible director. She recently directed Natasha
in Poker Face season two. Like they're still really really
good friends.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah. Clear has been in a lot of amazing things.
I mean she's been in like a lot of TV
like American Horror Story and stuff, and she's been like
a lot of movies. I remember, like just after this,
she was in The Faculty, which is an amazing tea movie.
But she's also become like a really amazing character directress
director over the years. So Clear and Megan start to
fall in love. Of course, it's really cute and lovely.
Rue Paul's in it, Like there's all these amazing yeah
(37:48):
cast members, and then towards the end when like they're
falling in love and they get caught like cooking up.
I just don't want to spoil because I want everyone
here to go and watch it. Meghan leaves and Graham
decides to stay behind the conversion camp because she's worried
about like her family disowning her. And then Meghan like
can't go home, she's to go stay with other people.
And then the people who have kind of like escaped
the conversion camp go to the graduation to try and
(38:11):
like bust their people out. So Megan goes there and
like it is trying to like show Graham her love.
And I don't want to spoil it, but I just
do want to say that she does a cheer at
the conversion ceremony that only not outs her as a
proud lesbian, but outs her love for this girl. And
she does it via being a cheerleader, and that's the
whole thing in the movie. Like people keep saying you're gay,
(38:31):
and she's like, but I'm a cheerleader. Cheerleaders can't be gay.
And at the end she's like, yeah, but I'm a
cheerleader and I'm in love with you. And it's really
beautiful and romantic and it's so funny, and again it's
like a satirical comedy and it makes a lot of
really kind of you know in nineteen ninety nine, like
guys like bring it on in a way, it makes
a lot of different like interesting like comments on society
and like there's like a lot of jokes and stuff,
(38:53):
but they're all making jokes of like the families who
would behave this way, the people that would behave this way.
And also it's so groundbreaking at the time and maybe
even now in some cases of mainstream pop culture to
have the love story just be between these two teenage
girls who just like fall it like they want to
be together.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
And I don't know how cheerleading saving.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
No, it's so good though. It's so good, and that's
how she knows to express herself. And she wants to
make a public statement a speech would have been that. No,
but she's a cheerleader. Okay, the whole point in the movie.
So I highly recommend if anyone hasn't watched that, I
feel like again it's become a cult classic. It's just
such a hidden gem of a movie. It launched all
these careers. It's on Prime video. That's where I watched
(39:34):
it recently because I just freaking love that movie. And yeah,
but I'm a cheerleader and I'm a cheerleader. Well that's
it for our Cheerleading wrap up today. What a beautiful time.
I should just say, we've had some late breaking news
this episode. For this episode, so our producer Georgie. While
we've been talking, has gone for a hunt on where
young Jesse Bradford is star Bring it on? Not seen
(39:55):
in many years. No, this is live, I'm reading it now.
Jesse Bradford update. She's a titled it.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Can we talk about how she said to the.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Over that? But yes, yes, we just realized our producer
Georgie has been messaging me for weeks and doesn't have
my number. To the person out there who got this
Jesse Bradford update before me, I'm I enjoyed. Okay, Jesse Bradford.
He has kids. That's oh and eighty six thousand Instagram followers,
quite a lot. I'm this is Georgie editorializing. She's deep
(40:29):
diveed on his Instagram and she says he does a
movie we've never heard of every two years, which is
the meanest thing I've ever heard any We did not
say that. We did not say that he travels a
lot and his dog just died. He travels a lot
of this dog just I'm sure he travels a lot more.
(40:50):
Now this is just name do we know?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Oh my god, between him and Megan Markle, these dogs
can't catch a break.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Oh my god, I feel so bad.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Make sure you send it to the wrong person first, Georgie,
no faster, that's such a dog's name.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Oh my god. Alright, I'm so sorry for your loss,
Jesse Bradford, and I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
This is.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Oh seven years, that's long. Can we go on tonight
and we even comment from the Spill podcast. I'm so sorry.
He looks so different.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Wow, oh Jesse, Oh Jesse, he's been through it. He's
really been.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
We haven't mentioned his kids' names, but his dog name, Buster,
has just passed.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Oh yeah, what's his kid's name.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Let's go find that, not do that. He's got a daughter, Maggie.
That's really cute.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Oh my gosh, he's a tourist like us.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
About this a maid? Okay, now we're really his family. Well,
I'm glad to know Jesse Bradford is doing well. Yeah,
I'm sorry. Sorry about your dog. Jesse's so sorry, Jesse,
and about your movie and about your career hanging their friend.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
But your daughter is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, that's important, crying for Buster.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Well, thank you so much for listening to the Spill today,
and don't forget to follow us on TikTok at the
Spill podcast US. The Spill is produced by Minicius Warren
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