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August 1, 2025 33 mins

It’s a universal truth: heartbreak sucks. Whether you’re freshly post-breakup, ghosted, or just feeling a little lost in love, we’ve got your ultimate movie survival guide.

Tina Provis, who you probably know from Love Island, and I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here, joins Laura to walk us through the films that’ll hold your hand through heartbreak.

From the ones that help you cry it out, to the picks that remind you love will come again… consider this your emotional support watchlist. Whether you’re going through it or just need a weekend cry, we’ve got you covered.

If you or anyone you know needs to speak with an expert, please contact your GP or in Australia, contact Lifeline (13 11 14), Kids Helpline (1800 55 1800) or Beyond Blue (1300 22 4636), all of which provide trained counsellors you can talk with 24/7.

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Or if you're ready to love again, check out The Best Romantic Comedy TV Shows Of All Time
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So much.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on From Mama Mia. Welcome
to This Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Brodney and I'm Tina propos and on the show today. Well,
Fridays are a very special time here at the Spill

(00:35):
because it's where we get to deep dive into films
and TV shows that we love. We used to try
and group them together in a bit of a deep dive,
and today we are doing the best movies to watch
after a breakup.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yes, I'm no stranger to that.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I love to sync my teeth into a binge marathon
of breakup movies. But I guess we all have our
own idea of what a breakup movie is.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, exactly. So again, we love rules here on the Spill.
It's also so funny because for these Friday deep dives,
we usually tie it to a big new slasher has
come out, so we'll do best slashes, or like a
new romantic comedy has come out, so we'll do best
romantic comedies. So when we actually you suggested best breakup
movies I should say, because we've never done this on
the pain.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Surely someone somewhere as having a breakup.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
And so then in our production meeting, we were like,
how do we tie this to the current climate and
what's happening in pop culture? And then we thought, you
know what, breakup's happen all year round, all the time.
We don't even have to tie it to anyone. Unfortunately,
this episode will be viable all year long. So we're
classifying breakup movies as a movie where the central character
is involved in a breakup in some way and kind

(01:41):
of getting a bit more nitty gritty, where they have
an evolution or they have closure, or they have revenge
my favorite thing in a breakup movie, that's an unhealthy
way to look at it. So that is how we're
doing breakup movie stage. You want to kick us off
with your first one.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yes, So one of my favorites to watch is Celeste
and Jesse Forever.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I don't know if a lot of people have seen this.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I have not seen that movie.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yes, it's got Rashida Jones and Andy Samberg, you know,
so they're like typically comedic actors, so it's interesting to
see them in this role so essentially it opens with
them as this cute couple.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's how they're introduced to us.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
But we quickly find out that they've been divorced for
six months when their friends have an intervention and say,
what is going on between you guys? And it's really
looking at you know how messy it is and complicated
when you go through a breakup but you still are
deeply connected to someone and it follows the process of
letting go when, as the script once said, when a

(02:39):
heart breaks, no, it don't break even. So we see
Jesse still in love with Celeste and they've agreed to
be best.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Friends, which never works out from anyone problematic on all fronts.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
They hang out every day, they say I love you.
He still lives in a studio in her home. She
can imagine how messy that gets when he eventually does
start to move on see other people, and Celeste starts
to really question whether she's made the right decision, which
I think is.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Something a lot of people can relate to.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, that classic thing of like you're sociure when they're
still an option because they're kind of in the peripheral.
But then once they move on, it's like that's the
closure moment, right of have I met totally?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Like can you really be friends with an ex? That
is like the age old question.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, I mean I'm gonna say no, but I know
other people have different experiences. What's the takeaway from the movie?
Like can you be friends with an ex?

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Or no?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
It's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I guess they try without giving like too much away
with what happens. I think it's the relationship is going
to change and kind of navigating how to change it
while still being in each other's lives. I think you
can be friends with an ex after some time, and
it is impossible to do so if you're still in
each other's everyday lives, Like how are you meant to

(03:56):
be dating someone when you've just gone through a divorce?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, and living with them and living with them or
even people like when you break up and you're still
like seeing each other all the time, Like do you
go from having coffee with your ex to that update?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
No?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
When I say you can't be friends, I feel like
you can be friendly, but I don't off you can
go have that best friend kind of dynamic.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I think that I can and I can't.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
No, I love it, Okay, I think I can, but
I can't. But also, you know what, I'm sure someone
out there has proved us wrong. What stage of a
breakup are you watching this movie in?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Like?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Because you know how sometime there's different stages depending on
where you're from the process that you watch different movies,
like where with this fall, I.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Think this is beyond the anger phase and you're just
sadly like looking back, Like, I think this is for
people who have just lost their person and it feels
like you're losing yourself a little bit because so much
of your identity is tied to them and the future
you thought you were going to have together, and when
that changes and the dynamic changes and you're just left

(04:52):
feeling confused. I think this is a great movie for
those people.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Oh okay, Oh I love that it's so rare that
someone comes on here and as a movie that I
need to watch it. No.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I just they're so funny as well, So I like
a good dynamic. I love Rashida, love.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Her and anything. Okay, I'll add that to my watch list. Okay,
So when I was trying to decide which movies to
pick for today's show, always got overwhelmed because there's so
many there's just so many good options. And I was
in a car and away to an event full of
women I work with, like all different ages and we
all work in different areas, and I was like, oh, guys,
what's a good breakup movie to talk abound the pod
And at the same time, every woman in the car

(05:29):
yelled Someone Great. Have you seen it? Yes? Yes, yes,
And I was like, I love how that's become the
definitive comfort breakup movie for so many different women, again,
different ages, coming off like a relationship breakup or just
like a few dates that have gone nowhere, or like
a marriage breakup. Like everyone comes back to this movie.
So if you haven't seen, it's a Netflix movie. It
stars Gina Rodriguez, Britney Snow, and wander Wise. I've got

(05:51):
to say when it first came out, like I saw it,
I saw the hype around it, but I did know
if it was for me, I'm just like, oh, I'll
get around that one day.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
And then I was staying with my little sister one
night and she said we were trying to decide a
movie to watch, and she was like, oh, I mean,
we could watch Someone Great, but we both watched that
a thousand times and I was like, I've never seen it,
and she was like, oh my god, Like she literally
threw herself at the TV put it on, and it
is such a great movie. So it's Gina Rodriguez. She's
just gone through this breakup, she's about to move cities,

(06:20):
and so her two best friends come over and they
have almost like this like wild final night out to
kind of like get her out of the funk of
this breakup. But it's almost about best friends more so
than a breakup. I think.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, I think that's what's really kind of special about
the movie, and seeing how there are other relationships in
your life. I think when you're in the thick of
a relationship and you fall in love with someone, it's
really easy. And as someone who is in a relationship
and watching my friends fall in love, you kind of
go to the sidelines. But you know that you know
your really good friendships are still there for you, and

(06:54):
how fulfilling those relationships, those female relationships can be, especially
when you need it.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I feel like, also, there's so
many breakup movies where it ends with the main character,
like usually the lead female character finding this big new
love and falling in love again, and I think, like,
maybe there's a stage of a breakup where that works
for you. But also if I'm like deep in a
like breakup situation, I don't want to watch someone else
fine love.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
No, I don't want to see think that is another
rule to add. Yes, ideally nobody's happy.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, it's everyone.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Needs to feel as bad as I do when I'm
watching the movie, Like, I don't like, I know a
lot of people, and forgive me if this is one
of yours. But the Notebook, I don't want to watch
The Notebook because I think it's really happy, and I
don't want to feel happy.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I think it's eventually again.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I don't know if I put there's a breakup movie,
I think that is just a romance because it ends
with my mom.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
And my mom said it was a breakup movie.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Oh really, What was her rationale on that?

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't think she had one.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
She was just like, i'd watch that if I was
an a break Yeah, She's like, I'm not. But I
think that's more if you're just needing even a problematic romance,
We're like, this isn't great. But I can see these
two love each other. The other thing about someone great
is like it didn't launch her career because she was
already making music. But you're the Lizzo song good as hell?
How the Gina Rodriguez character, Yes, it's iconic singing. Yeah,

(08:11):
she's in the in the kitchen by herself. She's doing
that thing like if you live alone, you know, you know,
it's just like, yeah, we don't ixpos. The amount of time.
I'm like, I'm going to clean. I put some music on.
An hour has passed, no cleaning has happened.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I have to put a timer on now technique because
I heard if you put a timer on, you kind
of work till the timer.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Oh, wakay, So that's what you can try. If I
put a really good song, I forget to clean. I
just start dancing to the song and singing it and
then all of a sudden it's on a whole soundtrack. Yeah,
we have that in Combat. And so that's a great
scene to the movie where she's like dancing in the
kitchen and her underwear singing truth. HER's a really iconic moment.
And her friend comes in and doesn't judge her at all,
just they jump in and they both start screaming the song.

(08:49):
I just took a DNA test.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Turns out I'm hold your posy even when.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I'm crying crazy you no comment?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Would you call it.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
A home girl like you?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Hold?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
So that song? Even Lizzo has said that that really
capulated her music to a new audience because she sings
so much of the song at such a turning point
of the movie, and it kind of like helped get
her totally.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I think it's the world captures such a moment like that,
a moment that everybody has had, especially when you're going
through a breakup and you.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Finally kind of get your spark back again.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
That's what I.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Felt like that was for her.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, I know, I love Oh, I just love that.
I love that movie. Does everyone else?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I feel like it's a good rewatch movie. So again,
someone great even if you're not going through a breakup,
but if you are, I feel like it will really.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Help, all right.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Another breakup movie that I love is Five Hundred Days
of Summer. Yes, I think it's more than just like
a breakup movie, more than a love story. It's really
looking at your expectations versus.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
The reality, which I think is where a lot.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Of heartbreak actually happens, So if you haven't seen it,
Five Hundred Days of Summer is another rom com drama
vibe situation and it follows the life of Tom played
by Joseph Gordon Levitt and Zoey Deschanel plays the lead
who is Summer Finn, and we see Tom falling in
love for Summer. It kind of goes into windows of

(10:21):
them getting to know each other, and it follows the
story of the excitement they have when you first meet
someone and then also you know when those feelings aren't reciprocated,
and it's really interesting to see the dynamic of that
relationship where someone is really honest upfront. So from the
get go, Summer lets him know I'm not looking for
a relationship, and Tom goes along pursuing her, thinking that

(10:45):
Summer along the way, she's going to change her mind,
and that's where his expectations start to fall flat.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
There's like this iconic scene where.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
There's the window of his expectations and his reality.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
At a party, and I feel like that is so real,
Like you.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Know, when you're going to run into your ex and
you're like, we're going to rekindle and have a really
good Night and it just goes completely south.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
And I think that's something that everybody has had happened.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Oh yeah, that movie. The impact of that movie when
it came out, there was so much hype around it,
especially because Joseph Gordon Leavitt and Zoe Dashanow were like
the tight of hot woman. They still are, but very
hot properties at the time. Their chemistry on and off
screen was incredible, and I just feel like that that
movie became such a huge talking point for so long,
And wasn't it. When the movie came out, people like
started to hate the character of Summer right, Yeah, but

(11:34):
she was a bit and she was leading him on
and she didn't know a good thing. I feel like
people really demonized her.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
It's interesting because I feel like the film isn't villainizing her, and.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
The film is like, yeah, maybe that's just how people
were thinking at the time, and she was more of
an easy target.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Because I thought that was great about the movie.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
It shows that it is never really someone's fault and
two people can have a different experience of the same relationship.
And I think the non linear way the story is
tell because we're kind of going into flashbacks at different
points in time. It's very reminiscent of when you are
going through a brain up and pulling out all the

(12:12):
good moments, when you're trying to make sense.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Of where it all went wrong.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Like I can recall so many conversations with friends where
you're shocked and blindsided by a heartbreak and you're saying,
but we just went on holiday, like we just went
to each other's parents, Like where did it go wrong?
And then slowly as you unravel the puzzle pieces, unravel
the puzzle pieces.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, we're nittyll you're picking up when I'm putting down.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
You start to see the little signals that you ignored
and the red flags along the way. And I think
the way they tell that story is really clever, because
that is how we look at a break up. We're
only looking for all the good times when we look back,
even if it's a completely wrong fear.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
And what you're saying at the different perspective of that
movie is so interesting because in his story, she's this
kind of person who came in and broke his heart.
But in her story, if you flip the whole thing
around it, it was all from her perspective. I feel like
he would be this kind of clinging guy who was
really like she had fun with him, but she kept
saying like I don't want a relationship, and he just
would not take no for an answer. Then started being
really like overly emotional. Like if you flip it around,

(13:14):
it's a very different movie. I feel.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I'm like, I have definitely done that.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
All of a.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Sudden, your face looked down and I was like.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I think it is hard because sometimes people's actions and
words don't marry up, and people can tell you how
they feel, and if you want to read into how
they're acting and take different meaning from it, that's where
it becomes this gray area. But at the end of
the day, you have to take something at face value.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Oh that's a takeaway from
that movie. Also, great soundtrack, always.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Green dancing scene mister Blue Sky.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, I love that one iconic movie and also so
interesting that it still gets referenced all the time, like
it's really it came out so long ago, right long ago.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
I think it came out in two thousand and nine, right,
so a few years it's getting on now. But I
think as well, the idea of someone falling in love
with the idea of someone is also where you get
heart broke, because it's just the idea of what you
think you're going to be together, and he has created
this whole world that doesn't exist, and that's where you
get let down.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
He just wanted a wife and a child and everything,
and she was just that for him. So yeah, I
love that great breakup recommendation. Where in the breakup do
we watch that?

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I think you have to be ready to accept a
hard truth if you're watching that, it's not the day off.
I actually watched it recently when a guy I went
on one date with didn't want to see me ever again.
So I just wanted to watch that to like bring
me back to earth and remember that I don't know
this man.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
It could have been that, so thankfully it's not.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah exactly, like I just assigned him something but didn't
have to be it. Yeah, Oh my gosh, love that. Okay.
So I'm just gonna say, I know this next movie
I'm going to recommend is maybe too literal, Okay, but
as I went through my list, I just had to
include it because I think it's such an important part
of like the cinematic breakup world. And it's called The.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Breakup Groundbreaking your Nose.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
I know, I know, but like it does what it
says on the tin in the movie. So, I don't
know if you've seen this one. It came out in
two thousand and six with Vince Vaughn and Jennifer Aniston.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I have seen it, yeah, but I need to rewatch.
I can't remember it. You're gonna have to jog my memory.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
So they're a couple and at first they kind of
have this like very pitch of perfect life where it
shows their meet cute at a baseball game and they
have this Also, the actors have incredible chemistry, Jennifer Aniston
and Vince Vaughn, which is so important because they dated
in real life after the movie. They they met on
the movie, they had chemistry. They only dated for a

(15:42):
few months once the movie had come out, so I
think their whole relationship was about a year from when
they met when they broke up. But it's really interesting
because Jennifer Aniston obviously had come off the huge brad
Pit break up a few years before that, and she
was kind of still spiraling, and she since thed in
interviews that she like really credits Vince Vaughn for being
like kind of like a safe person for her to like.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I'm sure everyone was rooting for that.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, I feel like. I mean, he's a tall, funny guy,
she's a hot woman. We wanted it to work. Yeah.
She kind of credits with him with helping her transition
from a marriage breakdown to like going back into the
dating pool, and that after she finished, they broke up
and they were quite amicable, which I kind of believe
because they were pictured like out about years later with
friends and stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
So you can be friends with the next well exactly.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Again if you're a Hollywood star, and again I think,
yeahs from the X if you're just like all in
the same circle. But I don't know if they personally
go and like hangout separately, but I hope that's true.
But yeah, she kind of credits him with like helping
her know that you can get over a breakup and
find love. So I love it that's happening in real
Is that nice?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:40):
That's yeah, So I love that's happening in real life.
But the movie itself, so yes, we see them fall
in love. We see their relationship be so beautiful. They
have great chemistry, and then we see them quite a
few years into the relationship when they're both very focused
on their careers, living in an apartment. They think everything's right,
but like their relationship just isn't working, like that love
isn't there. And from then on the movie basically tracks

(17:02):
their breakup as they're living in the same house. They're
trying to like work out like what to do, and
there is a moment in the movie where you do think.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
They're going to get back together, which I guess that's
so real.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, because it is a messy time and when you're
navigating that and essentially ripping your whole life apart, Yeah,
you must have those moments where you think, should we
just get back together?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, exactly. It's also so funny the reaction to this
movie in two thousand and six when it came out,
because I feel like that was the real height of
rom coms those early two thousands, and also the kind
of moment of like having two big stars come together
in a rom com, Like that's all the marketing you need.
And even though it's called the Breakup, I think a
lot of people didn't think it would actually be a breakup.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's too obvious yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
I think they thought they'd have this zany thing.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I mean not spoilers, but it is the title of
the movie. They would come back together. And I remember
seeing the cinema with friends and then like the credits roll,
the lights came on, and so my friends are like,
we're not leaving, Like there's no way. It just ended
like that.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
So they stay broken up.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yes, they stay broken up.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I kind of like that.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I think tying it up in a neat bow sometimes
feels forced and it doesn't feel like I think we
need to remind people that sometimes things just don't work.
And I think so often I even have to check
myself sometimes when something is not working or something's difficult
when I'm dating, because I think we're taught to make
something difficult work, and if.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
You're in love, it will just figure itself out in
the air.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
I think it's what so many movies take, even like
the Notebook Your Mum's for a breakup movie, is that
you kind of have this thing like, oh, they'll go
all this tumultuous stuff and they'll have these fights and
they won't be right for each other, but at the
end of the day, they're in love and they will
and it'll be work together.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, that's why I tell myself, and it's not exactly.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
And that's why I think sometimes the breakup is like
actually a good wake up calls a movie because it
sets itself up as an old school Hollywood romance, and
as you're watching the movie, you're waiting for them to
get back together. Yeah, like that iconic scene where Jennifer Aniston,
because he's got like this beautiful body, like walks naked
through the apartment and all of a sudden, he's because
they're living together still and he's like so enamored with
her and stuff. And then they have these little meet

(19:07):
cute things when they're broken up and you just think
they're gonna back together. The whole movie is kind of
worth it for this end scene where months and months
and months after they break up, they meet on the
street just walking past each other and they stop and
have this conversation and it's this really beautifully written, beautifully
acted scene where it's these two people who are so
clearly have shared this life, they have so much love,

(19:30):
and they're just looking at each other with this like
we'll never get back together as they have this little
quick catch up conversation and kind of share like where
their lives have gone since they've broke up, and like
these huge successes that they've had that they worked on
together and then they didn't actually share and the success
because they were broken up and all this stuff, and
then they just walk away from each other. And it
is this thing of like, you have this life with

(19:51):
someone and then it can be gone. But also it's
the right decision. I think it's such a great thing.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
That's really sweet, and I think people often just want
to forget forget people when they move on, but I
think it just shows you know, you can still have
love for someone and it not be your person at
the end of the day.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, I haven't thought about this movie.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I'm getting emotional conversations.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Oh man, I just shout out to anyone who's listening
this who is going through a breakup right now, like
you're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Okay, it is this round to watch these movies.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, the movies that we have mentioned today, though, are
those realistic endings?

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, as we said.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
We don't want to see anyone getting back together.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, exactly, we're just here for a bit of some
time cure exactly, man. But yeah, The Breakup. What a
great movie. What else do you have on your list?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Okay, next on my list.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I think this one translates to breakups, but also just
rejection in.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
General on the dating world. It's he's just not that
into you.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Oh my god. That movie also starring Jennifer Aniston. I know,
we just love to have a breakup movie.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
He's really sweet in the movie as well. I think
everybody has seen this movie. It's iconic and it follows
the lives of these interconnected characters in the dating world
as they're navigating relationships breakups, and it's a real honest
look at the fact that it does what it says
on the tin, He's just not that into you. You know,

(21:15):
if someone isn't calling you, if someone isn't texting you,
if someone isn't chasing you or giving you a commitment,
at the end of the day, they're probably not interested
and it could be time to cut them loose.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
And that is essentially the premise of the whole movie.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
And I think it is really great because it's hard
to have self respect sometimes in this it's hard out
here in modern dating, and it's just a big fat
reminder that you need to be honest.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
You need to be honest and check yourself.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
It's so funny because that movie, like it's gone back
and forth the conversation of like good movie, bad movies.
Some people love it, some people hate it. But that
kind of idea if he's just not that into you,
is so universal. It's still like really holds up today.
That movie. It comes from a Sex and the City episode, right.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
It comes from a book. It's like a self help book.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'm not sure I've got the right timing here, but
it was in a Sex and the City episode, Like
it was a big theme of the episode where Berger
tells Carrie's boyfriend times it would have been Seas tells
Miranda like, he's just not that into you, and all
the girls, Charlotte, Samantha, they're horrified, and Miranda's like, wait
a second, I'm intrigued. Tell me more. And he was
like if he wanted to, he would, He's just not
that into you. It's fine, you're great, You'll find someone great.

(22:24):
And then Miranda really takes that and runs with it
to the point where she overhears these two girls in
the park when she's having lunch talking about this guy
like he's so busy. He's not calling me back. He's
so busy with work, and she's like, goes over and
she's like, I'm gonna give you some advice that changes
your life. He's just not that into you. And she
thinks she's spreading like the feminist gospel. She walks away
and they're like, what a bitch.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
But it honestly is though, And I think it just
I love how the movie opens and is this little
girl in the.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Park and a boy pushes her over, bullies her.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
And her mum consoles her and says, don't worry, sweetie,
like he just likes you. Yeah, And I think that
is something you kind of go through most of your life.
I think in high school that was definitely a conversation
I probably had at one point.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
I think that's what all little girls get told. I mean,
maybe not now as much, but I think that was
such a thing. It just, oh, he just likes you.
He just be mean to you to like yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
And it's the excuses that we make along the way.
And I even't find myself doing this with my friends
as well.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
If they haven't texted you back, you're like, don't worry.
He's probably just really busy, but.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
The things we invent, like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh, I've got a whole plot lines going on.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
He's so busy, he's lost his phone. He didn't see
my message. He messaged me, but I didn't see because
I don't know which platform it was on. And then
you're like, yeah, I guess if you wanted to hit
would And that's why it stands through all of this time.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
And I feel like, I think when I was younger
watching it, I thought, oh, how desperate. That just feels
like a fiction world, And then actually going into the
dating world, I realized that it's so close to the truth.
And I don't think it's going to be something that
goes away.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
No, even though the movie does kind of like they
give you that happy ending, But I love how something
went from like a Sex and the City episode to
like a book to this whole way of living to
a movie. But then we sort of almost have with
that movie that Hollywood ending because then you've got Jennifer
Emiston and what's the may make fun of all the
time back to you too, But you know what, Phoenix

(24:17):
tattoo guy, we have like kind of there.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I hate that, do you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I hate that.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I actually rewatched this movie the other day, and I
kind of forget about the ending and how everything ties up,
because I just like the idea of the movie.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I like the concept, even.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Though I choose to ignore it time after kind we
all watch this movie and then it just goes off
into the abyss. But I do think if someone is
forced to marry you after all these years, because essentially
she wanted to get married, he didn't, She breaks up
with him, and then suddenly he comes back and compromises
and they get married.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
I think the ring and the pants that she wanted.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
The ugly pants. Wants to throw away those ugly pants.
He just did it for the pants. Really not even.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I guess they can't. They try and get themselves off
the hook by having so many different storylines that they
have some end realistically, like the Jennifer Conley Lee Cooper's
story where she's like realizes he's cheating, realizes he's never
going to change, finds out he's smoking, and she's just like,
he's just not that into you, even though you're married,
He's not going to change for you. But then we
have the central storyline justin Long and Jennifer Goodwin kind

(25:24):
of be like that I'm an exception. What do you
think of that?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
I think it is hard to like watch sometimes because
buying into that and like the believability, I'm like that,
would that really just work out like that?

Speaker 3 (25:37):
I know, but I guess it's that wish fulfillment of
like there's this rule, but that moment where she's like,
I'm the exception. He really does love me and they
get together and it's so hollywooded not realistic. But maybe
I thought the movie was just too worried to go
in like a different.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
A different direction.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Maybe one day, when I have my own love story,
I'll be able to relate to that plot line a
little bit more closely.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
You know. That's not learning flat for me. The only
thing I love about that storyline is like Jennifer Goodwin
and Justin Long are best friends in real life, oh,
which is really cute. That she was going through a
really bad breakup around when they were filming, and they
said they would go to bars and like she would
tell him like about her breakup, and Justin to be like,
I've got to tell you the truth, and people would

(26:16):
come to and be like are you. It's almost like
people thought that they were doing like pre movie promo
before that was a thing, and they're like, no, we're
actually just having that conversation. Yeah, so that's I kind
of like that story more than the movie one.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah. No, I lived for that.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, that's a great breakup movie, especially because it's got
so many different storylines you can kind of pick which
one you want to go with to suit your circumstance.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah. I like watching breakup movies, Like how I listened
to songs like they're about my life and me. So
if I can find something to relate to, that's what
brings it home for me.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Breakup movie, Oh.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
My god, I love that. I haven't thought about that
movie in ages, but love it all right. I had
to dive back into the archives for my last maybe
I wanted to talk about this movie came out in
nineteen ninety six, so I always a child. I don't
know if you were ever then. Yeah, so I was
in primary school, so I couldn't go to the movies
and see it, but I became very aware of it
because it kind of took over the world. It's called

(27:07):
The First Wives Club.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I haven't seen seen it.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Oh my god, you have to watch it. Yes, it
came out so long ago, but I've watched it many
times since and it still holds up. And even to
this day, when I tell people to go watch it,
they just love it, like it doesn't feet dated. It's
just trust such a good movie. Yeah, there's some things
I don't feel very strongly about, but I feel very
strongly that you will love The First Wives Class. So
it came out in nineteen ninety six and it stars

(27:32):
Bette Midler, Diane kee Connor, and Goldie Horn. So already
good cars, yep, yep, yep. And so they play three
best friends who meet in college and they're so close
they're like sisters. The fourth member of their little group
is played by Stockard Channing from Greece, and they're best
friends and they vowed to be in each other's lives forever.
Then it cuts about thirty years into the future, so

(27:53):
they're all like much older, married, have adult kids, and
they fall out of contact until Stockard Channing's character commits suicide.
So the beginning's quite duck commit suicide because her husband
has dumped her and moved on for a younger woman,
and so the other three characters all come to the
funeral and they reconnect and they realize that all of
their husbands have just left them for younger women after

(28:17):
like them, like getting them through their careers and like
being a homemaker and having their children, and so they
decide to enact revenge. And the revenge it's so good
and all their characters are so golden. Porn plays this
like famous actress who made all of these iconic movies
with her then director husband, and now he's making movies
with a young actress and she's only getting scripts to
be like the mother character. So she's very angry and

(28:39):
she's like a Hollywood legend. And then Diane Keaton's character
is a bit more of a kind of mousey stay
at home, and then Bet Midler's characters like baudy woman,
and Sarah Jessica Parker is in it. Sot Midler's husband
leaves her for Sarah Jessica Parker, and Sarah Jessica Parker
in this role is ten out of ten. Her comedic timing,
her acting, it's just like it's the first time I

(29:00):
saw I'm like that woman is a freaking star. That's
so so good. So then they go on this huge
quest and the way they get revenges so good from
like shutting down their businesses, taking their money, up, their relationships,
public humiliation. It's just so clever.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
And how too God Yeah, exactly, it's exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
It's like, don't just get mad, get revenge, and then
has also this beautiful kind of ending. Again, I want
to spoil it too much, but like.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I'm actually gonna go watch it.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I don't know, you have to watch it, and I actually
feel like you will love it. Like at the end,
as kind of all the revenge plots start popping up,
like you'll be like on your feet cheering, like this
is amazing. But it has this really beautiful full circle
moment where they kind of come back to like their
friend who took her in life because of feeling so
alone in abandoned, and what can they do now to
help other women that's not just in their revenge And

(29:46):
it ends on one of the most iconic closing shots
of a movie where they're all dressed in white and
they walk down the streets singing you don't Own Me,

(30:07):
and they're like screaming and dancing and my friends and
I like, it's just literally and Gooselum's talking about it
most iconic theme empowering. Yeah, just so good. And like
obviously when I was in primary school and it came out.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Like that, I related, I think my friends.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
I must have somehow got the DVD. So this is
years after had to come out, and we would like
watch her to sleep over and we would like go
down the street doing that dance and stuff, and we're
relating to these women in their like forties and fifties
who have like divorced, but we're just like, you know what,
women stick together and even as like ten year olds,
we kind of like got that message from it totally. Yeah,
such a good movie.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
At what point in a break up? Watching this at
the beginning, like.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, it's like angry revenge. And they have these moments
where like especially Diane Keane's character, because she's very much like, oh,
you know, like we might get back together, and like
you're like she just saw a daughter like your father's
just going through something. And then she has this moment
where she has this breakdown moment where like, if you're
just going through a breakup, it will feel I think
cathartic for you to watch her have this rage moment

(31:04):
where she finally lets it out like it's so good
and I'm so sorry. They were going to make a sequel,
which maybe it's good they didn't because it's such a
perfect movie because it was such a huge hit at
the box office and like this acclaimed movie when it
came out, all the three lead actresses, so Goldiehorn, Bet Midler,
and Diane Keaton also they would come back Sea Call,
but the network was like, oh, I mean, it's a

(31:26):
woman's film. Like even though it made so much money,
They're like, you can make it, but we're only going
to pay you the same amount as the first movie,
whereas usually if you come back to make a sequel
to a movie that is a box office hit, you
get more money.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
And when they can only do it again with that car, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah exactly. So you go into that cart and they said,
you know what, the whole theme of the movie is
just like what you're owed and what you're worth. So
we're not doing the sequel. So they never did a sequel.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
But it's okay, So watch it. No, I'm gonna watch it.
I'll feedback with my thoughts. I'm very excited not going
through a breakup, but I can still be angry.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, watch it. Exactly like I feeling all the time.
The anger doesn't go away. Yeah, I think watch it
now when you're like in a good mind frame so
you can experience it. But then next time you have
a breakup, which again I hope it doesn't happen, but
you just never know what. I'm not trying to put.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
That up in single for like five years, so there's
nothing on the horizon.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
But next time it does have that whole like yeah,
like don't feel bad about yourself, just get out there
and like get revenge. And sometimes revenge is what you need.
That's the correct emotion for a breakup.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Oh yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
So I hope everyone's feeling like empowered, angry, sad, happy
after this. I don't know. I can't judge what people's
emotions are going to be.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, but if not, you have some good movies to
watch to get you through it.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yes, yes, and please like contact us on the spill
in store, any other other ways to contact us as
in the show notes and let us know what movie
you watch in a breakup, because I feel like there's
again so many other options out there that we have many.
I need them, Yeah, we need them. We need they
happen all the time, all the happily married people like
sitting there in their car like stone face listening to this,
freaking out, being like, you're going to happen to me,

(32:58):
and you're going to be fine, You're going to be fine. Well,
thank you so much for joining us with the Spill today,
and thank you so much Tina for jumping in and
talking about the breakups and revenge. And if you want
more from the spill, please follow us on Instagram in
TikTok at the Spill podcast and yes, please let us
know your own break up movies. The Spill is produced
by Minitia Yes Warren with sound production by Scott Stronik.

(33:18):
And We'll see you back here on your podcast, feeded
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