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June 17, 2025 • 33 mins

On the show today, Simone Ashley has quietly been cut from the upcoming F1 movie starring Brad Pitt, a move that’s raised eyebrows amongst her Bridgerton fandom.

Meanwhile the film's star Brad Pitt is in a wild new era of fashion. But as more headlines surface about his ongoing legal battle with ex wife Angelina Jolie, could it all just be a calculated distraction?

Plus, the internet has latched onto a supposed feud between beloved children’s entertainer Miss Rachel and actress Olivia Munn. We’re breaking down what actually happened, and how a seemingly minor moment got turned into a full-blown controversy.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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that this podcast is recorded on From Mama Mia. Welcome
to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura
Brodnick and I'm Kelly McCarron. We've spent about, I want
to say, forty minutes to two hours talking about hair first,

(00:35):
so glad that we cut all of that out.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
We cut all of the important stuff. If you want
to listen to more about hair, go listen to you beauty,
which is the other job.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, well, obviously from our conversation, I need the help
because if you're not following us on which you should
be on YouTube and Instagram.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
TikTok and TikTok all the platforms.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
We're very video first now, which has given me a
hair complex.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's also just like a little bit annoying given that
when we started podcasting we turned up looking like Adam
Samer all the time, and now we've got to be cute.
Although today I'm giving teenage boy.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
No, I think you look great again. You can go
to our TikTok and everything. You can see. Kelly's out there.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
But a boy, you look like, Yeah, you do look
like she was a skaterable she said to you.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I was almost going to say, you do look like
avrol Levine's circa very early two thousands, which is not bad.
It's not bad, but like I'm still kicking a.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Lease could be Atney's and I'd be just ready to
go anyway. On today's show, we are diving into the
deeper meaning behind Brad Pitt's crazy fashion choices and the
celebrity feud. Absolutely no one saw coming. But first British
and fans are reeling at the moment because news that

(01:43):
fan favorite Simone Ashley has been cut from an upcoming
F one movie.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
No, no, yes, so the F one movie, which I
personally not super invested in, but I know a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
People because who cares? Yes, but I mean who cares us?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Well yeah, well no, no. There was a fight for tickets
in the Mum mirror office. The girls care. The girls
care as much as the guys. I think we're just on.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
The we We simply do not care about the I.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Said I had tickets and there was like almost a
stampede for the screening. So the F one movie huge, big, exciting, deal.
Brad pits in it obviously.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
See like straight, straight and arrow, no sugar. When you
look in the mirror, you see this rough and tumble
old school cowboy, doesn't take orders, goes his own way.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Huh. And Simone Ashley had from Bridgerton.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Who is season two?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Season two Kate? She was a Kaden Anthony season Yes,
about my personal favorite season because I love it enemies
to Lover's story and such a breakout star from that.
And she's been looking so hot on various read carts.
She's always done the most important thing at the cant
Film Festival. My favorite of it, Like her skin looks
like pure velvet, as if he went to a shop

(02:57):
purchase some velvet.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Oh is that velvet? No, it's Smon Ashley skin.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yes, exactly. Well, if you like her face, then that
might be the only reason to go to the f
one movie because that's all you're going to see. So
she was announcing she's not in it. No, there's a
one little shot of her face. So she got cast
in the movie. That was announced. It was a big deal,
especially because people leave Bridgeton. There's a lot of excitement
over which projects are gonna pick next? Are they going
to go into TV and film like all eyes are
on them. So when she got cast in the F

(03:22):
one movie, that was quite a big deal, and then
she was in a bit of the pre promotional stuff.
There was definitely like her and the trailer some of
the first look images. And only now as the movie
is about to be released this week, has it been
confirmed that there's like a brief shot of her face,
but she's been edited out of the entire movie, even
though she filmed a lot of scenes.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Well, I mean, if you get paid for it, who cares?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Really? Well, I know I think the.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Lands care, but I bet she probably couldn't really give
two hoots.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, oh, I mean I think you definitely would. The
thing is like you did, Yeah, I'm sure, Yes, you
still get paid. That's the thing. This happens a lot
where actors and actresses will go and film. Sometimes they'll
film a whole arc on a TV show, but it's
more normally movies that happens where they get cut out
and they could film so many scenes and then not
appear because in the final project, because once they get
into an editing room, hours and hours of footage of

(04:10):
movies gets cut.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Just think about even like that aside, because I said, oh,
who cares, she's gonna get paid. I know you would care.
Imagine as well, like say you didn't get cut out
of a movie, but you delivered in your mind an
Oscar worthy performance in a single like that is the
greatest thing. That is the best piece of work I've
ever done. Oh my goodness, all of the awards are

(04:32):
going to come a knock in and that was cut.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yes, exactly. And it's also annoy you get exactly, you
get the money, but it's also the relevancy flow on effect,
especially for her because she has got a lot of traction,
but she's at that stage in her career now where
post Bridgeton and she's done like some cute rom coms
and stuff, but she really needs that next, big, defining
role to kind of tip her over into that next
level of stardom, and so starring opposite Brad Pitt in

(04:55):
this movie that has a lot of excitement would have
been that for her, And instead she just spent months
of her life filming for something that is nowhere in
the world. No one's going to see it. She could go.
I think she's doing some of the press, like the
Red Carpet, but she can't.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Go even though it was just her face.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, and she can't go to the film junkets or
anything because what she was to talk about, yeah, I
was cut out of that. So yeah, kind of a
bit of a blow for her. I understand why British
and fans are upset because, like for her fandom, that
would have been their reason to see the movie. But
like other actresses have come back from this, I remember,
like Shylene Woodley, she was already an established actress, but
she filmed a huge arc in the final spider Man

(05:31):
movie for the Andrew. I know, there's so many spider Mans,
the Andrew Garfield Emma Stone iteration. And so she filmed
as Mary Jane, a huge arc for that, spent months
and months and months trained for all the stunts, was
in all the pre photos, was in all the pre press,
and then once they actually sat down to make the movie,
they realized there was too much story and they just
edited her completely out. And so she just she spent

(05:53):
like months, like nearly a year of her life at
a really pivotal moment filming that movie and then just
had nothing to show for it. And she's talked about
it a lot, just said like, it's just the it's
the business.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
It is.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Also, she wouldn't be allowed to say too much about.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
It, but I'd think at the stage now where she
could be like that was shit, but she's just like,
that's just the business. And also you've.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Got to develop a really thick skin about these things.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
It's a very brutal industry, and I feel like it
does it kind of maybe we think of it more
when it's a TV stuff from a really big show
going into movies, because as a fan you had that
thing of like, oh, this is their next big thing. Yeah.
So now if you watch The Good Place with Manny Jasenko,
who is one of the stars of that, like it
was Kristin Bell yeah yeah, yeah, and Jimila Jimilan stuff.

(06:35):
So he was one of the stars and that like
one of the breakout stars. And then as the show
was ending, we found out he'd been cast in the
new Top Gun movie opposite Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise and
Brad the villains of this story.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
They really are. It's all their fault.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
And there was pictures of him on set and he
was like talking about it, and IE's like, he's the
star of a blockbuster. This is so exciting, like we
love him from the good place. He's such a good actor,
he's hot as all hell. This is going to be great.
And then top Gun Maverick came out. Where is Manny
just in the background? They cut him out.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
It was definitely Tom Cruise's fault because he was like,
he's simply too good looking. I do not want that
distraction in my film. Yes, that's about.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
A close up shots on Tom Cruise's face, like looking
into the camera, being really determined, doing stunts and.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Stuff, so overacting everything.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
So the f one movie is coming out this week,
I do think without Simone Ashley, But.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
What is it about cars?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's it's like the history of like all the drivers
and things. Yeah, you could not pay me to watch
that film, and no follow up questions because that's all
I know. It's the history of the cars and the
drivers and no further questions.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
You know who will want to watch it?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
My child and Emily Verdem they can go together.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
M that's it. You've just volunteered yourself.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
You're not here.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
You've volunteered yourself to take lend to the movies.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
All right, Well, speaking of Brad Pritt. We're not done
with that man yet, because he's having a very big
week apart from ruining Simone Ashley's career, which is a
rumor I'd love to start. We should cook that for tictoks.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Honestly, you and I with our rumors starting, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
It's really fun, isn't it fun, Especially if when people
only see the clip on like TikTok at Insta and
don't have any of the context. Be like that man,
he did that. He's done awful. He has done some
bad things. But this week we have to talk a
little bit about his fashion because he was not cut
from the f one movie. Here's the star of it.
So he is doing a big, huge press tour. So

(08:24):
he's doing events, he's doing red carpets, but also in
between his press, he's doing like little pap walks, you know,
like leaving the hotel to go to dinner.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Oh I just happened to be wearing this and walking
to this restaurant. Well there's ten cameras and like.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Standing in front of the cars to get you know,
get letting people get photos, all that sort of stuff.
It's what he does when he's doing like a big
press tool like this, because when Brad Pitt's not working,
like he's on the press tool, like you won't see him.
He's hold up in his like Hollywood Hills.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Bunker, notoriously private.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
When it gets real lightly exactly with that fridge that's
full of different types of water. Like this journalist. This
journalist went and like went to his house for a
day to interview him, and she's like it was just
very weird, like just guitars like everywhere, but like dark,
and he had like all these different He's like, do
you want like this level of war, of this level
of water, and like his fridge was weird. It was

(09:13):
a weird time, soileps.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
When they're that famous and they've been famous for that long,
there are a very strange bunch of people.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
It was in a dark place. Then he seems better now.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I bet he's still got his weird water fridge just.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
The correct temperature. So at the moment, he's doing all
the pap walks with his girlfriend he's been with for
a long time. It's the first girlfriend he's been really
public with for a while. Inez de Ramone. Does that
name ring a bellfy model? Oh no, no business woman,
but no, no, she's like a model. It looks like
a model one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Looks like I don't know what her actual job is
that she should be.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
On account be more interested in who she used to
be married to, which was Paul Wesley aka Stephan Salvator
from The Vampire Diaries.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh so she's a lot younger then, because oh yeah,
it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I just know that if he would.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Let's not be silly, she's not going to be over
the age of thirty two.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
She's exactly thirty two, so she might be Well, Vampire
Diaries is your favorite show that you'd like, the morning
shows that you'd like to know that she went directly
from Stephen Salvatore to Brad Pitt Brad Pitch.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
She was like, this bloke's not old enough, even though
in Vampire Years he's good, So I'm going to go
for Noah.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
One said too much about their age gap because when
they made their first red carpet debut a couple of
months ago, over and just thought it was so romantic
that she was at this event with him, and she's
so beautiful, and she's really smart and all these things.
Like everyone was like very sloped up in their love story.
But he's sixty one and she's thirty two, ill, which
I don't usually mind a bit of an age gap.
For me, that's a little But also it's Brad pitt.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
You know who has a thirty something year age gap
who a lot of parents with their children.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well that I think that's the tipping point.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
It is disgusting.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
You can't date Brad pitt even though he's sixty one.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, probably, Yeah, I know I would date him, but
i'd probably smash him. Yeah, well, why I might face it.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'm like, yeah, like, I don't want to say it.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I don't know though maybe after I The thing is
is that they always look like incredible but like in
real life he probably looks like an old mate.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I do wonder if you it came down to it
and it was like you and Brad Pittner room if
at the end of the day he is.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Just my dad man, Yeah, my dad's mate. That's always
the same age.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
So okay, that's really yeah, that's always the flip for
me if they could be the parents. Anyway, they've been
on the press tour. I just had to get that
girlfriend thing out of the way. So we're all on
the same page. So they've been out in the bat
on the press tour and Brad Pitt has really stepped
up his fashion in a very unusual way. The first
thing to note is that he's working with a new stylist.
He's teamed up with Taylor McNeil, who is also known

(11:39):
for styling someone who likes to make a big splash
on the red carpet, Timothy challamye Oh, when he was
doing his the press for his Bob Dylan movie that
I can never freaking remember the name of that movie
because it's very nondescript, but he was, you know, dressing
like Bob Dylan on the red carpet and like had
the goroateee, like the little vests and.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
See my best, My Best.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
It was that kind of vibe. So now she's moved
on to styling Brad Pitt, and look, there's some interesting
stuff happening here. My favorite headline about this is from GQ,
who talked about the fact that Brad Pitt was having
a bit of a Tyler dirt in summer, or that
he's having a fight club. Have you seen Fight Club? Yeah, yeah,
that's his character in Flight Club.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
The first rule of fight Club is you do not talk.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
About Fight Club?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Oh I watch it so long?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yea, yeah, no, no, that's fine, But there's like a lot
of comparisons to that. He's like leading back into his
flight Club style. He's having a Tyler dirt and some
all that sort of thing. So that's one of his
most famous movies, fight Club. But in that movie, his
character Tyler wears like really crazy over the top outfits. Oh,
very mismatch, like very like loud printed shirts, mismatch clothes

(12:47):
because he's meant to look like a kind of like
a dream, like a figment of an imagination against all
of the kind of more industrial look of that movie.
So Brad Pitt is channeling that, and he's had some
interesting looks. So one of the best ones has been
he's wearing a lilac silk shirt and a tangerine pair
of cargo pants.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Listen, none of that makes sense. It's not like he
he actually dresses like me, Like, no, two days in
the same He's just confused and loves to have fun
with him.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, exactly. So we've got one photo here. So he's
got the orange like almost parachute pants.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
And a sheer ribbed purple top.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, a see through almost like an eggplant purple.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, with a big denim.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Oh, we've got a bag with all the stuff in
it and little yellow shoes and the images courtesy of Gucci.
And I said Gucci claiming that, ah, this looks like
he just fell into a pile of clothes. It does,
and like rolled out the window after like doing like
He's like, it looks like he's doing the Walk of shame.
He's like, this is all I had, but it's actually.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
I've still got my top one. I'll just these someone's
running pants.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
He's actually styled from Gucci. And now we've got this
is quite This.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Is where he's exiting. There is very fem.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
This is him doing one of the walk and there's
his girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Well yes, okay, that's why I like that is a
very fem like Oh.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
No, no, they're walking. This is getting very much to
his back, to his into the vampire days, I think.
So he's wearing a silk shirt but it's unbuttoned, like
quite far down, so we're seeing a lot of chest him.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Okay, my eyes sigh. Okay, I thought that was inez.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
No, And as it's behind him, that's a's hot and
she is really hot. But look, he's wearing a silk shirt.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
It's far too fair to be wearing that shirt.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Buttons undone and he's got a long he's got three
necklaces ond underneath one sheet and silk silk pants. He
does look a bit washed out. It's because he's shaved
his head. Yeah, he looks a bit ill. This is
a bit more cool. So he's got Oh, you guys
are dressed the same he's got. He's got a long
sleeve shirt underneath a T shirt.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
The teenage boy Felix confused. They're like, am I fifteen? No?
I'm an old man dressed like a teenager.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
This to me again. We'll describe for the podcast listeners.
He's wearing like, uh, I don't even wear ascribe a
green T shirt. It looks like it has paint splashes
down the front, but it probably costs more than my car.
Like a T shirt?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Is that one? Two separate pants on his legs.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, one side is different. So he's got a green
T shirt over a long sleeve white shirt with a
bunch of bracelets on one hand, and then's he's got
like almost old school parachute pants and one leg of
the parachute pants is cream and the other leg is
green and orange patterned. Maybe that's to do with this movie.
This is the worst one.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, that one is giving stone vibe.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
He's wearing a tidle. He's wearing a full tied eyed outfit.
And I was gonna say, like it's bright tight eye,
but like I don't know if there's a neutral tied eye,
but like the top is many different colors, and then
the pants are the pants are like a awful palm
tree link and it's probably Chanel, and he's one hundred
percent no. These outfits would again cost more than our
weekly rent doubled. And he's got a long sleeve shirt underneath.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
He must be cold now months.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Even for just those bracelets.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
That is, one jacket would be five grand.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
So in this this is the photo that's caused a
lot of issues, is that he's wearing like a long jean.
Oh no, but like a bad cut, like a mum jean.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Or it's a bad cutsh on him. He just looks.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I'm then a crushed velvet jacket. Now, as someone who
rocked a lot of crushed velvet jackets in the early
two thousand, that's why I feel like they were really
in stock, like Justine's used to sell them. Did you
have them as well?

Speaker 1 (16:33):
No question, I just need to clarify. He paid someone
to help him.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
So these clothes are very, very expensive and that doesn't matter,
and he's paid someone to put them together. But the
look on his face, I do feel bad for him.
He does look a little concerned, especially in the crushed blow.
I would velbot blazer, which is not.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Quite Nana doing outfits.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
He looks like someone who, like, you know how, like
you're at home and you're trying to psy like yourself
up for an outfit you're not too sure of, and
you're like, yeah, it looks fine. Like if I say
like this, and I like this, and it's cool and
it's fun and you're so into it, and then as
soon as you step outside you realize you made a
horrible mistake in the outfit's bad. That's Brad Pitt on
his entire press. Yeah it's not great, But there's actually
a little bit of a hidden layer to this going on.

(17:17):
There's always something with Brad Pitt, so he's got a
bit of a history of doing this. Like so most
of the time he is either very kind of classic
movie star. Just a normal black tailored suit on the
red carpet gorgeous or when he yeah, gorgeous, he's a
hot man, or when he's like doing press or just
wear like a very kind of clean, buttoned up shirt,
all that sort of thing. But he's had this thing
over the last couple of years where if there's something

(17:38):
bad about him in the press or a story is
bubbling up, he really leans into this like theme dressing
for his movies and like making these big fashion moments.
And I think it's too distract from the headlines because
all everyone's talking about this week and the last couple
of weeks is these crazy outfits that he's wearing.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Centric dressing.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah exactly. They're not talking about all the drama with
his kids or his divorce or his much much younger girlfriend.
Everyone's just like, oh my god, bright pit, you crazy kid.
That is Actually it's very smart prt it is and
he's not.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
How more people not do that, just like when bad
things have been written about you, just I think a
lot of them do.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
That's why we see these huge press tour looks a
lot of the time, Like obviously a lot of time
it is for movie promotion. But if you get one
like viral moment with address or an outfit or something,
it can cancelight your negative publicity, and he's had a
lot the last couple of years. It all started when,
if you remember this, when Angelina Jolly and Brad Pitt
were on a private jet with their children and then
they made an emergency landing and an FBI report was filed,

(18:39):
and in the report it said that Brad Pitt didn't
specifically name him, but it was like the match number
with the flight, so we knew it was him, that
he had become really drunk and belligerent on the flight
and had been aggressive towards the children. And then later
it was alleged that it was Maddix, their eldest son,
and that he'd been really aggressive to Angelina Jolly, and
the allegation was he'd like smashed her up against the wall,

(19:01):
tipped beer on her head, screamed at her, all that
sort of stuff. And after that is when their divorce happened.
And then that divorce dragged on for many, many many
and a lot of that was to do with like
their estate and everything, but most of it was to
do with the custody of the kids, because the kids
all put statements in saying that they didn't want anything
to do with their father and didn't want to be
in his presence, and then a lot of people thought

(19:22):
that was Angelina jolly pushing that. But now a lot
of the kids.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Old enough, you don't push that.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, it's gone on so long now that a lot
of the kids, like Maddox and Zahara and Pax who
were the older ones, and then you've got Shiloh, and
then you've got the twins, Knox and Vivian. I think
the twins would be like the only two now that
are kind of that age where they would need like
a custody arrangement. But it got to the stage where
the kids kind of aged out of it and started
speaking out. So like Maddox was like filmed going into

(19:49):
start college, which I felt bad for him because he's
just a kid going in to start college. Everyone's like
his brag gonna calm and he was like no. And
then Zahara when she went to college, did it like
a statement about dropping the pit name. And then Pax,
who's the second eldest son, put out this big statement
on social media a few years ago, calling his dad
like a terrible person, saying he never wanted to be
around him. Shiloh's also like petitioned to officially like get

(20:12):
rid of his name. All the statements in the court
written from the kids say they want nothing to do
with Brad Pitton, don't want to be around him because
he's like the subtext was, like the allegation was that
they felt unsafe in his presence.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Which is insane, insane, and it goes to show he
is uncance. Like that's if that was anyone else, if
that was a woman with stuff, they would literally be
their public grave would be dug and they would be
sent there. Oh I'm just crazy that if it was
anyone else.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Exactly, And I feel like now like like that is
permitting culture like a little bit like if you read
a lot of the comments under some of these bride
pit style photos that everyone's sharing and like all the
funny articles and stuff about it, like people are saying, hey,
isn't this man super abusive to his kids and his
wife and everything? But it is, Yeah, you're right, he
is like the one person who is completely untouchable because

(21:02):
if there was any other celebrity particularly what imagine if
Angelina Jolly was out there doing press and we had
not one hundred percent confirm, but confirm to an extent
just because of the kid's statements and all the stuff
that's in the court sestiment, and she wouldn't even be
allowed one hundred percent. They were saying, I don't want
to see my mother because I'm like, I'm scared of
being around her now.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
And because just in real life, that is the biggest
red flag. If someone tells me that the kids don't
talk to them, or like I know a couple of
girls that have an older partner, yeah, and they'll be like, oh, yeah,
they do have kids, but there talk to them. I'm like,
how is that not the biggest red flag? Yeah, like
that says so much about a person.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's the hugest thing. And there's just again
so much. I mean, there's things we don't know, but
there's a lot there that is on the record that
is so damning to him. But also not knowing the
full story hasn't stopped us from canceling, like you know
other celebrities. I think it's just because he is like
so much the golden boy of Hollywood. One is that
he still makes a lot of money for studios, and
that's the kind of thing that will knock you over

(22:01):
the edge in Hollywood, is like do you still make money?
And then his inner circle are very much like you know,
George Clooney and all those sorts of people, but also
the producers and like pretty much everyone who makes a
decision is very much team Brad Pitt, which is why
he can still go and like, you know, open a
huge movie and be on a red carpet.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
And I think he from reports he's to them, To
people that he works with, he's nice, very easy.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Like exactly well. It's like when he was nominally for
an Oscar and he was his whole thing was being
like the humble movie star who never expected it. And
he walked into the Oscars mix mixer thing it's like
the big press day where you can like go and
meet the other nominees and you can meet the press
and all that sort of thing, and he walked over
and like made himself a name tag and put it
on it said Brad Pitt. And everyone's like, why are
you doing that? And I was like, he's trying to

(22:45):
look humble. Yeah, he's trying to look like he didn't
expect to be here, and he's just you.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Know, I do really like that about Like I mean,
I wouldn't expect it from someone like Brad Pitt, but
when you do meet different celebrities and they introduce themselves,
I just always find that really.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, I find that too. It's like the when I
met Ariana Grande and she's like, oh my god, Hi,
I'm Mariana. I'm Ariana Grunday and I'm like, oh, so hot.
I know, but that's like I'm Laura, and I was like,
you don't need to know. You'll forget that I am
Laura Brodnick. You'll forget this interaction. So yeah, interesting. I
mean that's the thing about like the bride pit stuff
is like I think we'll just keep having this conversation

(23:19):
going forward about his superstardom and his amazing fashion and
this sort of story will always be in the background,
but it's never going to overlap what he does in
front of the cameras.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Nana, Nana, Okay, Laura, I have a question for you.
If I say, would you know what I was referencing?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
No, I think you were possessed from a horror movie.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Okay, no, I'm channeling my inner Miss Rachel. And I
feel like eighty to ninety percent of parents will know
who Miss Rachel is. So Miss Rachel Let's backstory. She's
a preschool teacher. During the COVID pandemic, when everyone was
at home, she noticed that her son had a delay
with his speech and she was like looking around, looking

(24:02):
on YouTube, and she was like, there is nothing fun
and educational that helps kids learn different things learn with
their development and saying that makes things easier for parents,
and it's all just not helpful at all, or it's
just like it's not engaging for little kids. So she
started a YouTube channel, Hi Hello, think of you? Where's

(24:28):
missus Rachel? Think of you?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Can you do that?

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Half her body's help, half poor bodies help buys helps.
She now has over fifteen million subscribers on YouTube alone.
She has a toy line, and her warm, nurturing presence

(24:53):
is just such a loved part of many a household.
Like I admit, before I was a parent, I remember
like I'd go over and I'd hear her voice and
I'd be like, oh my god, she's so annoying. Why
does she talk like that? But she actually announces things
like annunciation is very part of what she's putting exactly,
and she really does make it so helpful and easy

(25:14):
for toddler's babies, whatever age there are too.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I believe that because I didn't know your impression, because
I haven't actually watched any miss my impression is actually
awful personally. But I know her name just from so
many the parents in my life saying like, oh my God,
thank God for Miss Rachel. She looks after the kid
for me in the afternoon. She calms the kid down,
We give like we're going on a long flight. We
give the kid like a phone with Miss Rachel. So
I'm very aware of her presence and her.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Very good teacher. It's obvious as well that she's a teacher. Yeah,
just with the way that she delivers different things and anyway,
her content is incredible. She does her songs for Lily's.
It starts from baby stuff, moves up through toddlerhood. Lenne
for some reason, isn't that much of a fan anymore.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
But he used to love her baby as he's getting older.
But yeah, I guess some kids. I mean, I never
thought we'd be talking about Miss Rachel on this pod.
But this is where she's a celeb now as well.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Is she's a huge influencer, like some people would know
her over movie stars. Anyway, she's actually been in the
media a lot over the party or so because she
has gotten a lot more outspoken about advocacy, which is great,
like she's using her platform not just for parenting adjacent things.
But recently, oh, this whole big drama happens. So Olivia

(26:22):
Munn she is that beautiful actress that's married to the
comedian John mulaney, And she did an interview with People
Magazine and she said something along the lines of like, oh,
like I don't really like watching Mitchell Rachel, like she
doesn't play in our house, which is such a non
event thing to say, Like we were talking about it
this morning. I was like, if someone said, oh, I

(26:43):
don't like listening to the Spill when Kelly mccarran's on
it because I find her voice annoying, I'd just be like, yeah,
that's fair enough, Like everyone's not for everyone. But anyway,
then that got turned into Olivia Mutt hates miss Rachel
and all of the parents. Don't mess with the parents.
Parents be crazy. Parents are very protective of people like

(27:08):
miss Rachel, and they went after poor Olivia, even though
she didn't actually do anything.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
It escalated to such a situation that because I didn't
read the original People article when it was uh, because
I like Olivia Moe, but it was, you know, it
was more it was just meant to be like a
lovely little interview about her kids. So she and John
mulaney have two kids, Malcolm great name and May. And
that was the whole thing. When she announced she was
pregnant with him, people didn't really know them together, and

(27:32):
there was like crossover with his ex wife, so it
was all very scandalous. But now everyone's very invested in
them as a couple and they're so in love, and it.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Was just it's about their life, their kids and everything.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
And like she's been recovering from cancer and they had
like welcomed their little daughter May, and it was it
was meant to be yet a lovely article about her parenting.
And she was just saying that, like she needs to
be invested in the kids shows that her kids are watching,
otherwise she can't have them one in the house.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I know, Olivia shout out. If you're listening, you just
simply put your headphones on and listen to something else.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, I'm just wondered she doesn't like get permitting and
she so, yeah, she said miss Rachel. I guess the
kind of turning point was that the headline article on
People magazine, why Olivia Munn doesn't allow Miss Rachel in
her house.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Which is a little of course they knew what they
were doing, yes, but it just also goes to show
never just read, read, or watch something before you get cranky.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
But I do think even people who read the article
was so angry because you're right, once the parents saw
her say I don't like miss Rachel. And it was
just one little tiny part the comments, like People magazines
all of their sending death threats.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
A mother that has fought cancer, who's just minding our
business simply said one thing about what TV program she
doesn't like? Do you like every program? Do you say
that you like every program playing along at home?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
No? It escalated so quickly, So at first it was
just flooding all of the People magazine like their Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,
all those sort of things with angry comments about Olivia Munn.
Then people started making reaction videos on TikTok and being like,
here's what Olivia mun doesn't know about miss Rachel and
that escalated, and then yeah, it did go to full
on death threats against her and her children, to the

(29:08):
point where with People Magazine had to put out so
they've taken the article down. You can't see anymore. They've
scrubbed it from all their social platforms, and they had
to put a statement saying we've taken the very unusual
step of removing this article because again, People Magazine not
really verify old school tabloid exactly. They verify the pieces
that they put up. It's a lot of interviews. If

(29:29):
they do gossip, they always put like sauce, so like,
they're not the kind of outlet that's having to constantly
take things down. So it was and also it was
an original interview, so it's not the kind of thing
they would take down. But they said, we've had to
take this down because of the escalating violent threats against
Olivia Munn and the fact that it's escalated to such
an extent, and so and then John Mulaney came out
and was saying that and asking people to.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Stop, please calm down. There's really there's much bigger problems
out in the world, which is why. Then Miss Rachel
came out. I love like I call him Miss Rachel.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, like Rach. Miss Rachel came out and.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Just said, guys, it's it's fine. Let's not send take
towards Olivia Mune. I would much rather all of this
coverage be around the children of Gaza. They're starving, let's
focus on that. Possibly, And so the news headlines aren't
focusing on the starving children in Gaza. They are firstly
going Olivia munt hates Miss Rachel. Next they spin Miss

(30:27):
Rachel's words and they're like, Miss Rachel wants Olivia Munn
to stop starving all the children exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
This again, this is the thing I we always say
media literacy, but this one has escalated so far because
after John Moline put out his statement detailing some of
the threats that have been coming their way, saying it
had come on multiple sources. People magazine put the statement
out and they were all just like, please stop saying
you're going to kill this woman and her children. Then
Miss Rachel jumped in because I think it was just
to the point where I'm sure miss Rachel I don't

(30:55):
know much about her but she gets up in the morning,
she makes the coffee, she opens Instagram, and all she's seeing,
I'm sure, is that Olivia Munn is going to be
killed in her name, which I feel is very off
brand for her. So then she puts out Yes, put
out her statement saying yes, children in Gaza, this is
talk about that, and she was like, this is what's
happening to them. These are resources. And then she also
shared some other materials saying these are other children that

(31:16):
are suffering. Basically, she was saying like, this is not
where you put your energy.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, let's put our focus, time and attention onto something
that's actually happening and actually important. Yes, something that isn't happening.
And it was actually never even said to the same
degree that people were blowing.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
It up to.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Is just so ridiculous exactly because and then.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
As she was saying, people then kind of collated those
two things, where then they thought Olivia Mann, who again
said one sentence, then they thought that she was starving
at all of the children at Data it all of
her fault exactly, that she didn't care about the children
in Gaza. And so that now all the outlets who
are reporting on this back and forth. Feud have had
to go back and add a statement to their articles

(31:57):
that say, just a note on this, that the original
article didn't speak about children any contacts, not children in Gaza,
not children starving, that wasn't the subject of the interview.
Because the article's been taken down. You could have thought
or was she meant to be talking about? Was she
asked a question about children in the world, starving, children
being in war zones, children being hurt, and she flipped

(32:18):
it to talk about Miss Rachel. Is then the story
that went out, So that's escalated again. So yeah, Miss
Rachel's trying to kind of like calm the flame, just
be like I feel like once a story like this
gets out, it's hard to put it back in.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Like they both just need to lay low and not
say anything. But at the end of the day, you
heard it here. Miss Rachel and Olivia did absolutely nothing wrong.
Both of them just want children all around the world
to have access to meals. Yes, and you know what
their children personally do or don't watch is their personal progative.

(32:51):
The only thing to take note is that yet again
there are lunatics spreading lots of rumors and craziness on
the internet. That's the summary of the story.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Memory of that. Please write that down everyone.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Well, thank you so much for listening to this episode
of the Spell, and don't forget to follow the Spell
on TikTok, follow us on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Maybe we'll postick photo of Kelly's outfit. We can say
you brought it up. Well, so who wore a best
You were.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Brad Pit, me or Bridpit or a teenage boy?

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, those are the three.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I just can we boast a photo when I look cute? Honestly?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
And this fill is produced by Manisha Issworn with sound
production by Tom Lyon Mama Mia Studio is a Star
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Speaker 1 (33:34):
We'll be back in your feet at three pm tomorrow.
Bye bye
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