June 18, 2025 • 37 mins
On the show today, Sabrina Carpenter has responded to a comment that sex is her only personality trait, as a theory about her recent outrage campaign continues to bubble away.
Plus, Katy Perry is currently touring Australia, but at the same time a very reliable source has confirmed that her marriage to Orlando Bloom is coming to an end. We dug into the details to see what is actually happening.
And Dakota Johnson is allegedly also going through a break-up, while on an intense press tour where she is required to talk about true love. Which is actually why she shared this very bizarre revenge story.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And I'm Cayley McCarran, and we have got a ripper
of a show for you today, Spillers.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yes, Oh, a lot of heartbreak, a lot of intrigue,
a lot of gossip that we're going to weave through.
We've got two big celebrity couples that have been the
spotlight because allegedly both of their relationships have come to
an end for different reasons. So we're going to get
into that.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well. First, first, Laura, I want to talk to you
about the pop star that you have probably heard on
the radio lately NonStop. That is our friend, Miss Sabrina Carpenter.
She's not our friend at all, but.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, yes, I hear her on the radio. I also
play her on a constant loop on my Spotify as
I walk toward from work. Really that and musicals. Yeah,
she's a boppy girl. I love her music.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Can't relate to that at all. Really, Yeah, we'll get
into that in a minute though. But Sabrina Kappener's Manchild,
which was released a couple of weeks ago and then
(01:33):
her music video has just come out that accompanies it,
secured the biggest streaming debut for a female artist on
global Spotify this year, so passing Chapel Rones the Giver,
which I'm sure you would I would know it if
you sung a little bit to me. But I also
was kind of like bing bong.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah no, no, that's a great song. I'm not going
to sing it because I don't have the vocal range
of Chapel Rome, but it's a banger of a song.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But a lot of people are talking because her music
video and the posters and all of the visuals have
come out with the song, and let me just if
you haven't seen it, well, I'm gonna summarize what happens.
The video starts with Sabrina hitchhiking across the country with
one disastrous man after another, and it's set and filmed
(02:19):
in a very sixty seventies so vibe. It's very cool,
like it's very visually beautiful, which is a metaphor for
going from bad relationship to bad relationship, which you know
a lot of gals in their twenties can relate to.
So she's catching all these rides with multiple men, and
they're all like kind of weird, Like it's very surreal,
as if you're having a strange dream. Like there's really
(02:40):
impossible vehicles, and at one point she's like in a
pool with a shark. So there's a jet ski. There's
an armchair that just driving along. All of them have wheels.
There's a motorcycle with a supermarket shopping cut bolted to
the side. I don't know how much of it is AI,
which is part of the problem with art these days.
You watch something really cool like that and you think,
but how much is AI? I just don't know. And
(03:01):
at the end of the video, so that goes on
for a couple of minutes while she's singing, and it's
not a very good song to be well, I don't
think it is. At the end of the video, she
gets out of the car and immediately lags down another
that pulls up next to her. She gets into that
one and drives away, and that's it. And she's dressed
very Daisy Duke, very Jessica Simpson in.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
The books are Made for what Jukes had.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, that one like really hot, like but cheeks hanging out,
little crop, big blonde curls, absolutely gorgeous, objectively hot for
both the female and male gaze. But there is a
lot of commentary online about it being performative feminism and
that she's just always performing, that she's a feminist.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I don't know. I'm interesting what you think. I just
don't know if she's really thought that much about it.
And I don't think that this song in particular is
supposed to be a feminist anthem. Like I think that
it's just a summer banger about well, other people think
it's a banger. I don't about constantly choosing the wrong
men and wanting to look hot for the male gaze
(04:05):
all the time while you're running around chasing the wrong men.
That's what I think it is. I think that people
are just really.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Looking into it. Oh, I mean I think definitely looking
very over sexualized and glamorous is a huge part of
her brand and she loves it. And also why wouldn't you?
But it's interesting because this has come out and then as.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
An oscar, why are you trying to look like Charlie's
thrown in Monster.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I love this the two extremes. It's like blonde pinup
girl or crazy serial killer who's lost all her teeth.
There is no in between. There is absolutely that's what
we learned from Hollood and that's on them.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think it's interesting, like with the video clip coming
out and also as like em and I spoke on
a recent episode of The Spill, like the cover for
Manta where she's like again that very over sexualized pose
and she's kind of on her hands and knees, you know,
really intense makeup, and a man who's like off to
the side of the photo is like leaning down, like
pulling her hair back, and people like she's too over sexualized.
(04:57):
All her music, her video clips, her photos are all
this like very kind of pinup girl but also being
dominated by men. But I think if you look a
little bit closer, I mean, at the end of the day,
these are pop songs, so they're not meant to.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Be And who cares if she she wants to be
dominated and over sexualized?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Who gets well? I do under central extent, Like the
whole point is like art, whether it's like a pop
song or like an album or a painting is like
to put it out into the world and have people critique,
and so I think that's fine. But I also think
there's a lot of layers to the art that she
puts out, Like when you look at her past video clips,
they all they're not just her in a little sequent
outfit dancing, although a few of them obviously have that,
(05:34):
but they all have this really interesting element of storytelling,
like she loves to do a little film with all
of them.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
That's what I loved the film. Yeah, I thought it
was great. Well, it's like this when.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Her and Barry Kogan when he was in a video clip,
remember that, and they were like breaking out of the
jail cell. We had this little narrative, Or when she
re enacted all these incredible movies in her other video clip,
like Death Becomes Her and General Tager was in it,
and there was like this beautiful visual storytelling and all
these little easter eggs buried in there for people who
are like lovers of like that particular very campy genre
of film, and whether that's her whole team, it's probably
(06:07):
like a mixture of both. Again, it was like very
intentional story telling to be very campy, be over the top,
but also lean into this like, oh sexualized image. And
it's interesting because I was reading a profile with her
and Rolling Stone the other day and they were asking
her about like this intense kind of like this pushing
of sex and this pushing of like sex with her identity,
and I thought it was interesting that she was like,
(06:28):
you guys are the ones that really hook onto the sex.
She's like, I put out a lot of content and
that's what everyone really I'm paraphrasing obviously, but she was like,
this is what everyone really attaches themselves to. So she's like,
I think you guys are obsessed with sex, not me.
And I did sit with that for a while and
I was like, I mean, there's an element of truth
to that.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
There is, But I do think that she's a smart
lady and she knows what she's doing. Oh yeah, and
at the end of the day, sex sell, so you
know that, yes, maybe you are producing a lot of
different content. You know what's going to get attention, Well,
what's going to get yeah, and what's going to get
covered and talked about. So yeah, it's all well and
good to say that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
But I saw a fan also post a fans all
this word for what this person says. Posted the Manchild
album cover of her, like you know, with the man
pulling her hair back, and was like, does she have
a personality outside sex? And Sabrina Sora and she commented
and she was basically like, yeah, girl, and my personality
is really really good. And I think that that's also true.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I know heaps of people that
really love sex and over sexualize themselves in their lives
and they definitely have other hobbies. Yeah, Like, clearly she's
got other hobbies because she's very successful.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, exactly, and she's out.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And about she's not she is out at over time.
So when I said who cares, what I meant was like,
who cares if her whole brand is being over sexualized now?
And why does that matter to so many people? Like
who put her up as a feminist anthem icon or whatnot?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, I do understand a little bit. I think I
think it's because people thought that music was potentially moving
and like that this pop stardom was potentially moving away
from the Brittany's, the Christina, the Jessica Simpsons, the Mandy Moore's,
who are a very certain time, all these very thin,
overly sexualized blonde women like dancing on stage in a
very particular way. I think, with like Billie Eilish being
(08:20):
like the biggest star in the world and coming out
in these baggy outfits because she said she felt comfortable
in them, like greasy abams, sort of dancing a different way.
Even Taylor Swift to an extent, kind of pulling that
back and going in different direction. People thought pop music
had changed, and then Sabrina came back in l yeah
exactly with me like very kind of like yeah, being
a character on stage with her like dragon spied outfits,
(08:41):
and then people thought it went circled back around, and
then Sabrina was like, no, no, no, we're going back to this,
and people have really liked it. So the interesting thing
is that Manchild, the actual album isn't out yet, and
so when it comes out, I think it will have
that amazing storytelling element of like what's happened to her
in the last couple of years, because it's you know,
she's got a different level of fandom now, she's got
(09:01):
a different level of celebrity friends. But also she had
that really public breakup with Barry Kurugan that.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Kit starred at a very similar time becoming a household now.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, and something happened behind the scenes on that, Like
I mean a few times she's alluded to it on
stage because he's from Island, so when she was in Ireland,
she was like up on stage being like, yeah, Irish man,
like they're they're really something to be said about them
kind of thing. But I also, I just wonder, here's
a theory I've seen online that I'm really interested and
if it's true, I will be so impressed by her.
(09:34):
But I don't think it's true. But the theory, it's
also Sobrina, it's not too late to make it true.
So go on with that photo that's come out from
her album, which is the one where she's down on
all fours on the floor looking sexualized, and.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
The it doesn't like getting their head, you get her
head because you'd be like, I don't have to do
not touch it if you pull out one strength, this
is done.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, also kind of my friend mystuff like yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Then stop them and be like I like it, I
must fix.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But yeah, the hair grabing during sex, i'd have to
I'd have to give notes on that but so, and yeah,
the guy in the phone is like yanking her hair back.
But what think is potentially when she actually releases the
full album, that you'll see the full shot and that
she's actually the man the suit pulling back her own hair.
So it's Sabrina Carpenter like dominating herself. So it's like
(10:23):
her masculine side dominating her feminine side, and it's not
about and she's decentering men because men aren't even in
the picture. It's just her.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
That's very a simple favorite having sex with herself.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, it's a messed up mood, but I was like,
oh my god, that's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
The only reason I don't think it's true is like
because I feel like it's not really alluding to that,
and that it wouldn't have been leaked like they would
have kept that undercover.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It also would be very off brand, because no, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It'd be on brand for her that kind of like
being very overtly sexual and releasing this image, but it
having like a bit of a deeper layer behind it,
and her playing with people's expectations because she does copple
what of hate has since she was like a Disney
star and I think why.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I genuinely don't understand. She seems like the most well.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
She was involved in a really intense love triangle with
her own Olivia Rodrigo, who's the other really big pop star,
and they I can't remember the guy's name. He was
the star of the show on the Disney Network with them,
and they both released albums. It's like Driver's License is
about her. This is very deep Disney law, but it's
so important. Also, Sabrina Olivia pose for a photo this
year and so that was a huge situation. So you know,
(11:29):
the girls aren't fighting anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Is good because being a teenager, they've both.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Become global superstars and this guy is like nondescripts, so
they don't want. Like recently, Sabrina said, I don't think
about that Driver's License drama of my life anymore. I've
moved on. So I'll be interested to see when that
album does come out, if the script has been flipped
and it's.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Her love, if she does that.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
If I was her and her team and I saw
that theory going around online and it wasn't true, I'd
be like, get back in the studio.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Let let's reado that. Just like AI her face exactly.
Let's ai her face.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It'd be such clover marketing. I don't think it's true,
but I hope for her because I have very high
standards for her because I love Sabrina Carpenter. My favorite
song is Taste followed by Espresso. Then please please, just
in case you wanted to know, oh uselessen to music.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Okay, let us know what you all think. Do you
think that she's pulling her own hair back? Or is
it a hotty A different a male hotty. Laura has
some goss about Katy Perry. But before we start, I
need to ask you. Have you ever seen her in
real life?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
No? And I'm desperate too. And I'm also really sad
I didn't get tickets to her austrain For all the
haters out there who said Katy Perry is over, her
Australian tool is sold out, I.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Think she's an incredible performer. I want you to Some
of the tech talks are quite funny, but it's only
because you know you're doing some art, you're getting creative,
you're flying around the stage. Good on you, But I
just need like, I know, it doesn't matter, looks don't matter,
but you know how sometimes you see celebrities or famous
people in real life and you're like.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh, I have never saw her in real life.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, And I have never done a double take at someone.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Did you go to the concert?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
What would you story to Taylor Swift? Oh? Oh h
they had to I was just sitting in front of that,
so they were all in there. And I have never
like actually doubled took at someone because they were so
for Katy Perry. I did it for Katy Perry.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I would believe that, and like everything.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
About she was beautiful. She was sitting with Rita Orra
who was also just like just so beautiful real life beauties.
So it's just like a fun factory run.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That is a fun fact.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I'm feel like shit because they're really beautiful in real
life as well as on screen.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I know, but also just think of the maintenance that
their teams are doing to make them look like that.
But and Katy Perry's been looking really good in the
last few years. Well, she had this Australian stylist who
she still has, I believe at Teddiana Woodford, who like
completely redid her style. That's why every time she's going
on a red carpet. Everyone was talking about her and
like her makeover, she's.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Not talked about enough as one of the world's most beautiful,
Like if you look at her, she's stunning.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, I think I think just some of the negative
stuff around her recently has overshadowed that. So that's what
as coming into this tour, the lifetime to her, there
was obviously a lot of yeah, well there was there
was a lead up so well, there was the Woman's
World song that she put out, remember that, No, so
(14:24):
she she put out that song It's a Woman's World,
and it was her first big single.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Oh wow, that's right really proud was produced by the
man who was accused yeah checking kesher, But it also
was this really feminist anthem where they took all of
these like.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Iconic for mious moments and redid them in the video.
Clear but everyone thought she was being too much of
a try hard and like, you know, some parts of
it didn't land.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And when you've got the producer that's done that well,
it was.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
The same producer who worked on her like all of
her biggest hits. And I think she was like previous
years when she was like at the top of the
pop game, So I think that's when she thought she
was going to recreate that magic. And so that song
came out and she got absolutely slammed for it, both
for the song and for the video. Clear people like
this is so embarrassing. And then she kind of went
out of spotlight but was looking really she one red carpet.
(15:13):
So it's a bit like is it evening out? Like
people are making fun of.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Her, but I'm hot.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
She's hot, which will always help out in any situation.
Then the space thing happened, which is kind of hard
because people do think, and maybe this is true to
my extent, that a lot of this big world tour
that she's doing has some space stuff that's in it
that's not really referenced, and they think it's because she
thought that was going to be really favorably received, her
five minute trip to space.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh, and they definitely did.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
They all did, and that yeah exactly. Oh, I mean,
girl King's there, and you're just like, well, girl King's here,
Like she always makes the right choice. So I think
they didn't think it was going to be so globally mocked,
and so she's had to pull that out of her tour.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
And then there's very space, like it's very sci fi. Still.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, again, that was meant to be kind of a
lead into the space thing. But now she's on stage
and she's like, don't talk about it. But like I said,
it's sold out in a lot of places. I've heard
a lot of people say it's incredible. So that's all happening,
And obviously she's been in Australia. While she's in Australia,
all eyes are on her. But at the same time,
a report has come out from People magazine that she
and Orlando Bloom, who have been married many years.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
They've got a kid.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
They have a little girl. Her name's Daisy Dove Blooms.
That cute, very word, Daisy Dove Bloom. Cute. That's why
when she was up in space, she floated to the
camera and held up a little Daisy.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, so her daughter could be openly mocked at school.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I feel like the kind of school that kid would
go to, it's like all everyone's parents like richness. Yeah, exactly,
so that wouldn't have been a thing. So she's in
Australia turing at the moment, and this story from People
magazine came out and one of the reasons why everyone's
thinking this is potentially true is that, as I often say,
we don't mean to do pr for People magazine, but
they do check all their sources before they put something out.
(16:53):
That's why when celebrities want to release something like Hugh
Jackman and Sutton Foster, like finally releasing information at their
relationship and all that sort of stuff, they go through
people because they had that back channel setup.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
So not the Daily Mail.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, it's not like one of those old school tabloids
where someone in the office will just be like, oh,
I'll write this and I'll beat this, yeah, and all
those sorts of things, like they've actually checked. So they
put out an article saying that Katie Perry and Orlando
Blooms romance, they said, is navigating troubled waters, which I
feel like the writer people.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Make it at any point.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, I feel like the writer was probably like, oh,
this has come from Katie in Orlando's team or a friend,
so we've got to sort of say it. We don't
want to say they're breaking up, but they say. An
insider told People the couple experienced strain in their relationship
amid the release of her latest album, and another source
says there is no turning back. They're pretty much done,
a source tells People, adding that they don't really see
(17:45):
them being able to turn things around. It's been breaking
down the last couple of months and it isn't looking good.
And then they said about Katie touring at the moment,
this comeback means a lot to her and she wants
to give fans the best show. This makes me feel
like this part's coming from Katie's team. She's happy and
just focused on her tour and her daughter Daisy Dove,
four and a half years old, is with her and
their sightseeing and having fun. And they said they've contacted
(18:08):
both Katie Bloom and Katie Bloom, Davy Perry, and Orlando Bloom,
who did not respond to their request to say yes
or no the story is correct or incorrect, Which is
kind of interesting because I guess celebrities get like requests
like this every day. People say like, we're running a
story about you, do want to comment? And if you do,
if the celebrity then does comment, then it kind of
gives free rein for the story to keep going. But
(18:29):
I do wonder if there was a huge story like
this in People magazine that you might just say like
we're very happy together or something everything if it was
a complete not true. And the other thing is, again,
this could be just a wardrobe thing. We don't know.
The other thing is that she's been sided out without
her wedding ring in Australia.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Wear it.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I actually think she doesn't always wear it from.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
What I never wear mine and I you're.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Currently an unmarried lady. Do you know where it is? No?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
What, It's just somewhere at home.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It's somewhere at home.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I just don't look. Look. I don't like to be touched.
I wear jewelry out to work sometimes. I just I'm
not someone that would just wear it at home.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I just feel a lot better if you said, yeah,
it's in my second top drawer or something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
It's in my cupboard somewhere.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Okay, feeling better. I'd love you to check that when
you go home. But no, she doesn't worry it all
the time. Kind of I guess fifty to fifty. I
don't know. I'm not really tracking Katie Perry's wedding ring,
but I feel like she often doesn't wear it on
red carpets and stuff. If it's not like the vibe
of her very start. But the difference to them, you.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Do think that. I'm like, yeah, you need to take
your ring off, especially if it's quite an ostentatious diamond ring.
Sometimes it really doesn't go with the outfit.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Take it off. That's so true. And no one's gonna
think you're divorced. Well, they obviously will because they do well,
but hey, it's Pierre. But the difference then is that
a lot of times where she's seen without it, she's
with Orlando Bloom, so it's less of a big headline
making kind of thing, whereas she hasn't been seen with
him for a while and she's not wearing her ring,
and there's a story in People magazine and that's all
(19:52):
the evidence we have.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I say, when you just said that, you know, the
sources say that things haven't been dol for a few months. Celebrities,
I feel like they don't give it enough of a try,
because a few months doesn't seem like a very long time.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I know, but a few months since it sort of
hit the publicity circuit, like it could have been happened
for a really long time. Okay, you know again, we
just don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
No, I just feel like celebs. They're used to getting
everything that they want in their lives being so easy.
They're like, oh, things are a little bit hard, I
mean hard. Yeah, Oh fuck this, let's get a divorce.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I mean I don't know. They've been together for like,
I don't know, six seven years something like that, exactly. Yeah,
so they count celep and she's had a rough time
of it. Let's not forget she was married to Russell
Brand that poor woman.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Like, so she went to one of these shows in
Sydney where he made awful.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, and he's currently being accused of rape, so she's
been through him quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. And then
I actually, can I just say on the record that
I'll be very sad if they break up because I've
always felt that they have this like kind of you know,
cutesy romance.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Six seven years, that's a great relationship.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
But she has said on the record what she wants
from a partner. So she went and call her daddy
and she said, if he cleans the kitchen, I'll give
him a blowjob, Like it's all I care about. She's like,
I'll have sex with you or do whatever you want
if you just clean up after yourself. Maybe he didn't
clean the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Maybe he did not. Okay, more break up news.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I know we're sorry to bring you all this sad.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's not really well.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
This whe we die not.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Also, they don't have to be sad.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
You could still be friends, could be no longer romantically
beautiful way to put it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yes, the other breakup stories circulate at the moment, and
to be fair, these two never talk about their relationships,
so it could be nothing. But the world is quite
certain that after eight years together that Chris Muttin, who
is the lead singer of cole Play but more famously old.
I think it's Oneth Paltrow's ex husband and dad Apple
and Moses. Okay, they have the two children together. Yeah,
(21:43):
do you know I hate that. I know this the
information that sticks in my brain. Moses because he's got
a song called Moses or it's got Moses in it.
And when she was pregnant with their son, she would
go and watch him play, and every time the song
Moses came on, he would start kicking, so they called
him Moses.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Oh cute.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I don't know why I know that.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But because you're a wealth of celebrity.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Because I just read things they do so well.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
That they have been dating you for eight years. I
swear that I thought she was like twenty two.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Oh no, she's in her thirties. But they've been together
for but he's like in his late forties. It's like
quite a So here's the tabloody side of it before
we get into other side. So one is that they've
never been super super public. They don't like walk off
a whole bunch of red carpets together or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Remember, up until a few months ago, I didn't know
that they were together. I thought she was with Pedro
Pascal and.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
That was like, oh wow, that was a great deal.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I almost wanted to let you come on the podcast
and put that information out here.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
But no, you know, we love to start romas.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, yeah, and that would have been a big one.
But yeah, So they it's been the last couple of
months that people have started to say, like, are they
not together? Because even though they never do a lot
of publicy together, so they never talk about each other
in interviews, they want red carpets together, anything like that,
but they always pitch it out like hugging in the street,
arms around each other all so I think they just like,
we're gonna go out and live our lives and we're
(22:56):
gonna get photographed and who cares. And she'll often go
to his concerts and stuff and like be in the
background all that sort of stuff. And Gwyneth, of course,
Gwyneth is a chatty girl and nothing's off the record
for her has talked about how much she loves having
Dakota as like a sister wife and how close they are,
and they've posted photos together, so she's like, really, you know,
in the fold of the family, Dakota.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Is just so sarcastic and not wellness. But no, but
Gwyneth is very very sarcastic, but Dakota is just so
not goop. It just I really, I guess I've got
lots of friends with vastly different interests.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I actually think Dakota is very goop. I actually think
that she would be very much. She's been raised in
that very intense Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Work she pretends not to be.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I think she's Yeah, I think her persona is just
like I'm just a quirky every girl. But I'm sure
behind the scenes she's eating like very yeah, she's eating
kale and having like yeah, and having like, you know,
the juice of a snail squeeze into her paws and
stuff like she I think she is I do that
and I'm not. Yeah, but you're a beauty influencer, so
I actually think that wouldn't be that. Gwyneth Paltrow is
(23:58):
very much the world she grew up in. So if
anyone's out of the lupet's Chris Martin, so she's very
in that circle. But recently they haven't been pictured together,
and then the rumor mills started that they've broken up
with people. They have. They have come out with a
full statement. That's the thing to say. That's why I
feel like no one behind the scenes has talked about it.
So when I say people, I mean like people on
the street, not people magazine.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
People on the street looking outside their house.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, which they do think they've broken up because they
haven't done even little references to each other for a while.
They pictured together, and also it's just the rumor mill,
and people are also saying that it's because the age
gap has kind of become a bigger thing, but also
that he was dragging his feet on their wedding. She's
never said they're engaged. Or anything like that, but it's
kind of been thought for a long time. But they're engaged,
(24:42):
so it's out in the world. The interesting thing is
that they never talk about being together, so they would
never address a rumor that they were broken up.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
They wouldn't even out themselves as been.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Seeing addressed so so publicly with such an intensity they
haven't seen around them before that I'm just thinking, like,
maybe it's true to an extent.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
And as we were saying, she's been very KOOKI extra cookie, yes,
and her little publicity.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So that's the interesting thing that if she was, if
she wasn't in the public eye at all, I'd be
kind of maybe less inclined to believe it, because why
would she come out and do an interview about being
with someone when she's off the publicity circuit. But she's
very on the publicity circuit at the moment, and it's
been a very kind of like very specific way that's
been done. So she's doing publicity for her new movie Materialists,
in which she stars with Pedro Pascal. And also.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Maybe he is her secret boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You think that he broke him up, He certainly did.
I don't even think that, however, I would love that
to be true, because we would just dine out on
that for weeks.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yes, yeah, what a glorious day for content, Well a
not a glorious day for Chris Mattin.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
No poor Chris Mauttin or Pedroc Yeah I don't yeah,
well no Pedro Perscal never publicly has a partner, any
kind of partner, so we never know what's going on
with him. He often has his sister coming to all
their events and stuff. But he and Takota have been
like pictured at concerts together. In one of them, they'd
been pitched like on the street together. But they're doing
press together, so that's kind of fine. He was wearing
(26:10):
her shirt at one of the concerts, and what she said.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Just they shmacked him and he couldn't find his own.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I mean, well, she says, because he was dressed inappropriately
for the cold weather and she had to give him
a shirt. But I just I think if they were
sleeping to here, they maybe just woantn't be so blatant.
So I one hundred percent don't think that's story. Yeah,
I mean, or maybe they want to throw us off
so many things. So she's on this press to a
for the Materialists, which is a great movie. If anyone
hasn't seen it yet, it will you just come to cinemas.
(26:37):
But it's both great and harrowing and beautiful and also
sometimes ridiculous. But like, I can't stop thinking about this movie.
And so, but that movie is all about finding the
one and how do you choose the person you want
to spend your life with? And do you go like
do you just.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Get the one? That's like the modern day hitch oh too.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I don't know anyone say it like that before. But
she plays a match maker. Yeah, so she plays a
matchmaker in a movie Dakota Johnson, and she's got this
like long term entanglement with Chris Evans, but his character
isn't right for her. And then she meets Pedro Pascal's character,
who's like this billionaire, you know, unicorn of a man
who is looking for a wife, and she starts dating
him and then it's kind of like this like triangle
(27:16):
between the three of them and this love story of
who she should be with Jess like in real life, Well, yeah,
Chris and Pedro just offer Chris battling it out exactly.
So she's on the and she's been going so hard
on the promo tour for this movie. And so she's
been doing like so many a lot of press, a
lot of different press, but saying nothing because you can
(27:37):
see that she has either not that she had answers
personal questions, but her team has said, like, she's not
doing any real life questions. So she's doing a lot
of games and gimmicks and other celebrities podcasts. So she
went on Amy Pola's podcast, Good Hang. But even then
she was like, she brought a puppy with her, being like,
look at the puppy, don't look at me, don't talk
to me.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
They haven't talked about silly things not yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And they're having this silly back and forth. And she's been,
you know, going to doing the talk show circuit, and
she always has the scene where she comes out in
a dress and then sits down and then is like
shocked and horrified that like her dress is really short,
her boob is falling out or something like that. She's
done that, which I understand that except me, Yeah, And
I don't even think she's doing it to show her boob.
I think she'd actually wouldn't care if the world saw
(28:18):
her boobs or not. But I think it's just like
little quirky thing.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
We have seen her boobs, haven't we, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
In Fifty Shades all three movies, and they're beautiful. But
I think it's more so that she was just like
she comes out with these little things, like she knows
that that will kind of go through the time and
so they won't have to ask her any questions because
she's folding a napkin into her dress and then that
becomes the viral moment that everyone shares on TikTok and
then no one's talking about she's the other stuff she is, Well,
she's been raised in Hollywood. She's like third is her
(28:44):
mom again, Her mom is Melanie Griffiths, Yeah, and her
dad is the actor Don Johnson, and then her stepfather
is Antonio Banderas. But then her grandmother is Tippy Heddrohn,
who's one of the most iconic old school Hollywood actresses.
So she's a third generation NEPO baby.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Oh love it.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
And it shows those genes have been like mixed around
a few times and they've come out to this like
just quirky weird girl is She's the.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
One that was like I was homeless, like trying to yeah, yeah,
you weren't.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, but she loves to weave a story.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
She does.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
She's been doing that so she One interesting one that
she did was with Vanity Fair and she's doing the
lie Detective test and obviously, like you kind of like
her and her team must like pre feed them questions
to ask because and I think she was saving this
story for it to kind of be this big moment
on the press tour because she said this.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You once sent a man who broke your friend's heart
a gallon of gorilla shit? Can you confirm or deny
that this happened? I mean, there's no way that he
would watch this, So yes, I did do that. How
would one order something like that asking for a friend?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Shit senders dot com you can order any kind, any size, truthful.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I didn't know that I have.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Is that a real place? She sent me stock calm? Look, yeah,
please just called shit shit senders dot com because I
thought she must have been joking, Like I've seen the
clip going around. I love how she's like, he'll never
watch this. I'm like, he won't have a chance because
this has been broadcast on like every single social media
platform probably knows.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, someone sent him a bag of shit.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
But gorilla shit is so specific.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Is it big or stinky?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I think it would be. I can't save ever is
it real?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Okay? Oh my god, that one isn't but okay, okay.
There is Poopsenters dot com, shit express dot com. Then
there's a Reddit thread. Somebody keeps she somebody keeps sending
me shit literally literal shit from poop centers dot com
and I don't and I don't know who it is.
(30:40):
And it's been consecutive for the fourth time, and I
want to sue her harassment. Yet the policy of the
company keeps the center anonymous. I know you may laugh
at my case, but I've been getting shit literal sheit
sent to me.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
That is actually so upsetting I would die, But it's
so funny.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I need to find out how much this. Yeah, I
think that the regular folk can do all.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I mean, it would have put on the company card,
like who do we hate? I can think of so
many celebrities.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
A simple way to send a piece of shit around
the world.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I love that there's a market for this. How good
is that order?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Now?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Does it? Can you actually order gorilla shit? Or is
that off the market? Now?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Animal? Okay? I can choose an elephant or ele ow.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I feel like elephant, right, Elephant.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Shit would be huge. I think cows and also like,
but cow you could kind of get yourself.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Elephant should have be much harder.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
You've gotta scoop it up, put it in a bag,
then take it to the PI.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I feel like at least that's attainable, like you, I
mean not in Sydney, but like right, like from my hometown,
there's cows and fields around. So an elephant you'd have
to hop the fence at Tronkazoo. Okay, okay, is it
reasonably priced?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
No, this is a different website with actual prices. Percenters
dot com, the one that the surf from Reddit was
upset about. Cow jung so for a court seventeen ninety five.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
That's so reasonable.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Elephants crap a court eighteen ninety five. Gorilla pooh twenty dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh my god, she didn't even break the budget to
send that.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
She really there's a combo pack. You can send a
pack for ninety dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I mean I feel like she went for the megapack.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, no, that's all three.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Oh oh, that's beautiful, Gorilla.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
It's like gettingn Elephant Cow.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
It's like a fild where you order the sliders and
you can get a different burger for each one. It's like, fum, wow,
I really thought she was lying. I'm sorry to Coda Johnson.
I thought you were lying about saying the shit, but
you weren't. And now you've also opened up this world
to us.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And we have now given any spiller looking for a yes,
quite an affordable way to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
And affordable revenge is really what I'm looking for exactly,
and also low stakes because like there's so many people
I want it to take.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Is that a really harassment?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah? I mean I think yes, if you keep doing
it and if you're saying there threatening missage. But there's
so many people I'd love to take revenge against. But
I'm so lazy.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm way too lazy.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Oh I know that what I mean, Like I think
about it, but then I'm like, oh, I have to
go do this, like I have to. I can't even
go to the post office. I can't do revenge. But
that's so easy, so easy.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Another one that I did have someone do for me
as a joke, Yeah, revenge, but was like you send
like a thing and like just a bunch of glitter
dicks arrives. Oh, and you open it and it just explodes.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
That's kind of festive though if someone sent me that, though,
I wouldn't think it's annoying to clean up glitter. But
I also think if someone sent me that, I'd be like, oh,
I was wasteful.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
At least who isn't wasted?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, you could probably garden there. So she said that
to distruct us, which it absolutely did.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Oh well, yeah, oh my god. Why did she say
these quirky, weird things.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
It's so we dedicated ten minute ten where.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
We start googling how to send someone shit.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
She's a clever girl, so she's I think she's been
putting that out there because it must be really if
what we think is true, and that they are going
through this really intense breakup after being together for eight years,
after like you know, according to Goneth Paltrow, her kids
see her as another mother and they are breaking up. Yeah,
as another mother and then they are breaking up. That
would be really intense. But the intensity would be so
(34:02):
heightened if you're then on oppress to have been asked.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
What people are going to ask, Yeah, but also.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Being asked like some of the interviews I've seen two
the more kind of focused ones are like, how do
you know if you're in love? How do you know
if you found the one? And that's why she and
Pedro keep like doing these little cutesy answers.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
As a kid.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Cokey cokey mm hmm, spelled the way the frog is spelled.
Cokey see o q u I hyky cock. Yeah, my
nickname is a little girl was cock fucking idiot? Oh
(34:40):
my god. But really she's on a press too, talking
about finding true love while she's potentially lost her true love.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Oh that, Laura.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
You could not be these little celebs. I feel bad
for them sometimes, so I do hope that one isn't true.
I hope kay only do our truet as well. But
that's the thing, like these.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Stories just come to everyone could get a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But I also just sink these sometimes these stories blow
up with such intensity and they have a lifespan of
over a year, and they never come to for a
and then after a while we get we just never
talk about the fact that we were a pick, that
this that these couples in our eyes were broken up
for months and months and months and they're having another kid.
The other sign that people think they're broken up just
(35:23):
me is that Chris Martin's also been on tour recently
and she hasn't been there, which when she's on a
press to us. When she's on a press tour, she
doesn't go to his shows. But as he was finishing
one of his shows, he yelled out, this, don't forget
to go and see like serious, we love you, we
(35:43):
think love bless him.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Why would that be a sign there, well, because he's
never done that before.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
They don't reference each other in any way, So people
are thinking, like, you could take it both ways. You
could take it the way that they have seen the headlines,
which of course you would even if you're not looking
because like Dakoda especially doesn't have the social media, but
your publishers would be telling you that. You would say like, oh,
I'm going to say that to prove that we're still together.
But that's so different to their usual playbook. What people
(36:11):
think has happened is that they have broken up. And
Chris Martin, very famously good friends with.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
His exes, consciously uncomord and he has said that as
a whole of like we're almost like a message to
her and her team and their family and stuff like
we've broken up, but I'm still gonna speak well of you,
and I'm going to tell this whole stadium of people
to go and see your movie because I know that
this is a huge week for you when you're doing
promo and I want you.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
To see it. Either way.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Nice, Yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Is very nice. Well, we'll see I I again. I
don't know if they're broken up, but only time will tell.
Until then, we have a great way to enact revenge
on our enemies. And I feel like that's the takeaway
from today.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
If you ever annoy me, expect to find a bag
of shit at your door. So thanks so much for
listening to the Spill today, and don't forget to follow
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Visit Fenton Andfentin dot com dot au and Emma Laurel
(37:05):
will be back in your podcast feeds at three pm tomorrow.
Bye bye
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Ll Llo
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And I'm Cayley McCarran, and we have got a ripper
of a show for you today, Spillers.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yes, Oh, a lot of heartbreak, a lot of intrigue,
a lot of gossip that we're going to weave through.
We've got two big celebrity couples that have been the
spotlight because allegedly both of their relationships have come to
an end for different reasons. So we're going to get
into that.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well. First, first, Laura, I want to talk to you
about the pop star that you have probably heard on
the radio lately NonStop. That is our friend, Miss Sabrina Carpenter.
She's not our friend at all, but.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, yes, I hear her on the radio. I also
play her on a constant loop on my Spotify as
I walk toward from work. Really that and musicals. Yeah,
she's a boppy girl. I love her music.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Can't relate to that at all. Really, Yeah, we'll get
into that in a minute though. But Sabrina Kappener's Manchild,
which was released a couple of weeks ago and then
(01:33):
her music video has just come out that accompanies it,
secured the biggest streaming debut for a female artist on
global Spotify this year, so passing Chapel Rones the Giver,
which I'm sure you would I would know it if
you sung a little bit to me. But I also
was kind of like bing bong.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah no, no, that's a great song. I'm not going
to sing it because I don't have the vocal range
of Chapel Rome, but it's a banger of a song.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But a lot of people are talking because her music
video and the posters and all of the visuals have
come out with the song, and let me just if
you haven't seen it, well, I'm gonna summarize what happens.
The video starts with Sabrina hitchhiking across the country with
one disastrous man after another, and it's set and filmed
(02:19):
in a very sixty seventies so vibe. It's very cool,
like it's very visually beautiful, which is a metaphor for
going from bad relationship to bad relationship, which you know
a lot of gals in their twenties can relate to.
So she's catching all these rides with multiple men, and
they're all like kind of weird, Like it's very surreal,
as if you're having a strange dream. Like there's really
(02:40):
impossible vehicles, and at one point she's like in a
pool with a shark. So there's a jet ski. There's
an armchair that just driving along. All of them have wheels.
There's a motorcycle with a supermarket shopping cut bolted to
the side. I don't know how much of it is AI,
which is part of the problem with art these days.
You watch something really cool like that and you think,
but how much is AI? I just don't know. And
(03:01):
at the end of the video, so that goes on
for a couple of minutes while she's singing, and it's
not a very good song to be well, I don't
think it is. At the end of the video, she
gets out of the car and immediately lags down another
that pulls up next to her. She gets into that
one and drives away, and that's it. And she's dressed
very Daisy Duke, very Jessica Simpson in.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
The books are Made for what Jukes had.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, that one like really hot, like but cheeks hanging out,
little crop, big blonde curls, absolutely gorgeous, objectively hot for
both the female and male gaze. But there is a
lot of commentary online about it being performative feminism and
that she's just always performing, that she's a feminist.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I don't know. I'm interesting what you think. I just
don't know if she's really thought that much about it.
And I don't think that this song in particular is
supposed to be a feminist anthem. Like I think that
it's just a summer banger about well, other people think
it's a banger. I don't about constantly choosing the wrong
men and wanting to look hot for the male gaze
(04:05):
all the time while you're running around chasing the wrong men.
That's what I think it is. I think that people
are just really.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Looking into it. Oh, I mean I think definitely looking
very over sexualized and glamorous is a huge part of
her brand and she loves it. And also why wouldn't you?
But it's interesting because this has come out and then as.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
An oscar, why are you trying to look like Charlie's
thrown in Monster.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I love this the two extremes. It's like blonde pinup
girl or crazy serial killer who's lost all her teeth.
There is no in between. There is absolutely that's what
we learned from Hollood and that's on them.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think it's interesting, like with the video clip coming
out and also as like em and I spoke on
a recent episode of The Spill, like the cover for
Manta where she's like again that very over sexualized pose
and she's kind of on her hands and knees, you know,
really intense makeup, and a man who's like off to
the side of the photo is like leaning down, like
pulling her hair back, and people like she's too over sexualized.
(04:57):
All her music, her video clips, her photos are all
this like very kind of pinup girl but also being
dominated by men. But I think if you look a
little bit closer, I mean, at the end of the day,
these are pop songs, so they're not meant to.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Be And who cares if she she wants to be
dominated and over sexualized?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Who gets well? I do under central extent, Like the
whole point is like art, whether it's like a pop
song or like an album or a painting is like
to put it out into the world and have people critique,
and so I think that's fine. But I also think
there's a lot of layers to the art that she
puts out, Like when you look at her past video clips,
they all they're not just her in a little sequent
outfit dancing, although a few of them obviously have that,
(05:34):
but they all have this really interesting element of storytelling,
like she loves to do a little film with all
of them.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
That's what I loved the film. Yeah, I thought it
was great. Well, it's like this when.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Her and Barry Kogan when he was in a video clip,
remember that, and they were like breaking out of the
jail cell. We had this little narrative, Or when she
re enacted all these incredible movies in her other video clip,
like Death Becomes Her and General Tager was in it,
and there was like this beautiful visual storytelling and all
these little easter eggs buried in there for people who
are like lovers of like that particular very campy genre
of film, and whether that's her whole team, it's probably
(06:07):
like a mixture of both. Again, it was like very
intentional story telling to be very campy, be over the top,
but also lean into this like, oh sexualized image. And
it's interesting because I was reading a profile with her
and Rolling Stone the other day and they were asking
her about like this intense kind of like this pushing
of sex and this pushing of like sex with her identity,
and I thought it was interesting that she was like,
(06:28):
you guys are the ones that really hook onto the sex.
She's like, I put out a lot of content and
that's what everyone really I'm paraphrasing obviously, but she was like,
this is what everyone really attaches themselves to. So she's like,
I think you guys are obsessed with sex, not me.
And I did sit with that for a while and
I was like, I mean, there's an element of truth
to that.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
There is, But I do think that she's a smart
lady and she knows what she's doing. Oh yeah, and
at the end of the day, sex sell, so you
know that, yes, maybe you are producing a lot of
different content. You know what's going to get attention, Well,
what's going to get yeah, and what's going to get
covered and talked about. So yeah, it's all well and
good to say that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
But I saw a fan also post a fans all
this word for what this person says. Posted the Manchild
album cover of her, like you know, with the man
pulling her hair back, and was like, does she have
a personality outside sex? And Sabrina Sora and she commented
and she was basically like, yeah, girl, and my personality
is really really good. And I think that that's also true.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I know heaps of people that
really love sex and over sexualize themselves in their lives
and they definitely have other hobbies. Yeah, Like, clearly she's
got other hobbies because she's very successful.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, exactly, and she's out.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And about she's not she is out at over time.
So when I said who cares, what I meant was like,
who cares if her whole brand is being over sexualized now?
And why does that matter to so many people? Like
who put her up as a feminist anthem icon or whatnot?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, I do understand a little bit. I think I
think it's because people thought that music was potentially moving
and like that this pop stardom was potentially moving away
from the Brittany's, the Christina, the Jessica Simpsons, the Mandy Moore's,
who are a very certain time, all these very thin,
overly sexualized blonde women like dancing on stage in a
very particular way. I think, with like Billie Eilish being
(08:20):
like the biggest star in the world and coming out
in these baggy outfits because she said she felt comfortable
in them, like greasy abams, sort of dancing a different way.
Even Taylor Swift to an extent, kind of pulling that
back and going in different direction. People thought pop music
had changed, and then Sabrina came back in l yeah
exactly with me like very kind of like yeah, being
a character on stage with her like dragon spied outfits,
(08:41):
and then people thought it went circled back around, and
then Sabrina was like, no, no, no, we're going back to this,
and people have really liked it. So the interesting thing
is that Manchild, the actual album isn't out yet, and
so when it comes out, I think it will have
that amazing storytelling element of like what's happened to her
in the last couple of years, because it's you know,
she's got a different level of fandom now, she's got
(09:01):
a different level of celebrity friends. But also she had
that really public breakup with Barry Kurugan that.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Kit starred at a very similar time becoming a household now.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, and something happened behind the scenes on that, Like
I mean a few times she's alluded to it on
stage because he's from Island, so when she was in Ireland,
she was like up on stage being like, yeah, Irish man,
like they're they're really something to be said about them
kind of thing. But I also, I just wonder, here's
a theory I've seen online that I'm really interested and
if it's true, I will be so impressed by her.
(09:34):
But I don't think it's true. But the theory, it's
also Sobrina, it's not too late to make it true.
So go on with that photo that's come out from
her album, which is the one where she's down on
all fours on the floor looking sexualized, and.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
The it doesn't like getting their head, you get her
head because you'd be like, I don't have to do
not touch it if you pull out one strength, this
is done.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, also kind of my friend mystuff like yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Then stop them and be like I like it, I
must fix.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But yeah, the hair grabing during sex, i'd have to
I'd have to give notes on that but so, and yeah,
the guy in the phone is like yanking her hair back.
But what think is potentially when she actually releases the
full album, that you'll see the full shot and that
she's actually the man the suit pulling back her own hair.
So it's Sabrina Carpenter like dominating herself. So it's like
(10:23):
her masculine side dominating her feminine side, and it's not
about and she's decentering men because men aren't even in
the picture. It's just her.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
That's very a simple favorite having sex with herself.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, it's a messed up mood, but I was like,
oh my god, that's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
The only reason I don't think it's true is like
because I feel like it's not really alluding to that,
and that it wouldn't have been leaked like they would
have kept that undercover.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It also would be very off brand, because no, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It'd be on brand for her that kind of like
being very overtly sexual and releasing this image, but it
having like a bit of a deeper layer behind it,
and her playing with people's expectations because she does copple
what of hate has since she was like a Disney
star and I think why.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I genuinely don't understand. She seems like the most well.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
She was involved in a really intense love triangle with
her own Olivia Rodrigo, who's the other really big pop star,
and they I can't remember the guy's name. He was
the star of the show on the Disney Network with them,
and they both released albums. It's like Driver's License is
about her. This is very deep Disney law, but it's
so important. Also, Sabrina Olivia pose for a photo this
year and so that was a huge situation. So you know,
(11:29):
the girls aren't fighting anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Is good because being a teenager, they've both.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Become global superstars and this guy is like nondescripts, so
they don't want. Like recently, Sabrina said, I don't think
about that Driver's License drama of my life anymore. I've
moved on. So I'll be interested to see when that
album does come out, if the script has been flipped
and it's.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Her love, if she does that.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
If I was her and her team and I saw
that theory going around online and it wasn't true, I'd
be like, get back in the studio.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Let let's reado that. Just like AI her face exactly.
Let's ai her face.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It'd be such clover marketing. I don't think it's true,
but I hope for her because I have very high
standards for her because I love Sabrina Carpenter. My favorite
song is Taste followed by Espresso. Then please please, just
in case you wanted to know, oh uselessen to music.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Okay, let us know what you all think. Do you
think that she's pulling her own hair back? Or is
it a hotty A different a male hotty. Laura has
some goss about Katy Perry. But before we start, I
need to ask you. Have you ever seen her in
real life?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
No? And I'm desperate too. And I'm also really sad
I didn't get tickets to her austrain For all the
haters out there who said Katy Perry is over, her
Australian tool is sold out, I.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Think she's an incredible performer. I want you to Some
of the tech talks are quite funny, but it's only
because you know you're doing some art, you're getting creative,
you're flying around the stage. Good on you, But I
just need like, I know, it doesn't matter, looks don't matter,
but you know how sometimes you see celebrities or famous
people in real life and you're like.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh, I have never saw her in real life.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, And I have never done a double take at someone.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Did you go to the concert?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
What would you story to Taylor Swift? Oh? Oh h
they had to I was just sitting in front of that,
so they were all in there. And I have never
like actually doubled took at someone because they were so
for Katy Perry. I did it for Katy Perry.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I would believe that, and like everything.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
About she was beautiful. She was sitting with Rita Orra
who was also just like just so beautiful real life beauties.
So it's just like a fun factory run.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That is a fun fact.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I'm feel like shit because they're really beautiful in real
life as well as on screen.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I know, but also just think of the maintenance that
their teams are doing to make them look like that.
But and Katy Perry's been looking really good in the
last few years. Well, she had this Australian stylist who
she still has, I believe at Teddiana Woodford, who like
completely redid her style. That's why every time she's going
on a red carpet. Everyone was talking about her and
like her makeover, she's.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Not talked about enough as one of the world's most beautiful,
Like if you look at her, she's stunning.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, I think I think just some of the negative
stuff around her recently has overshadowed that. So that's what
as coming into this tour, the lifetime to her, there
was obviously a lot of yeah, well there was there
was a lead up so well, there was the Woman's
World song that she put out, remember that, No, so
(14:24):
she she put out that song It's a Woman's World,
and it was her first big single.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Oh wow, that's right really proud was produced by the
man who was accused yeah checking kesher, But it also
was this really feminist anthem where they took all of
these like.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Iconic for mious moments and redid them in the video.
Clear but everyone thought she was being too much of
a try hard and like, you know, some parts of
it didn't land.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And when you've got the producer that's done that well,
it was.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
The same producer who worked on her like all of
her biggest hits. And I think she was like previous
years when she was like at the top of the
pop game, So I think that's when she thought she
was going to recreate that magic. And so that song
came out and she got absolutely slammed for it, both
for the song and for the video. Clear people like
this is so embarrassing. And then she kind of went
out of spotlight but was looking really she one red carpet.
(15:13):
So it's a bit like is it evening out? Like
people are making fun of.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Her, but I'm hot.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
She's hot, which will always help out in any situation.
Then the space thing happened, which is kind of hard
because people do think, and maybe this is true to
my extent, that a lot of this big world tour
that she's doing has some space stuff that's in it
that's not really referenced, and they think it's because she
thought that was going to be really favorably received, her
five minute trip to space.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh, and they definitely did.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
They all did, and that yeah exactly. Oh, I mean,
girl King's there, and you're just like, well, girl King's here,
Like she always makes the right choice. So I think
they didn't think it was going to be so globally mocked,
and so she's had to pull that out of her tour.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
And then there's very space, like it's very sci fi. Still.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, again, that was meant to be kind of a
lead into the space thing. But now she's on stage
and she's like, don't talk about it. But like I said,
it's sold out in a lot of places. I've heard
a lot of people say it's incredible. So that's all happening,
And obviously she's been in Australia. While she's in Australia,
all eyes are on her. But at the same time,
a report has come out from People magazine that she
and Orlando Bloom, who have been married many years.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
They've got a kid.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
They have a little girl. Her name's Daisy Dove Blooms.
That cute, very word, Daisy Dove Bloom. Cute. That's why
when she was up in space, she floated to the
camera and held up a little Daisy.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, so her daughter could be openly mocked at school.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I feel like the kind of school that kid would
go to, it's like all everyone's parents like richness. Yeah, exactly,
so that wouldn't have been a thing. So she's in
Australia turing at the moment, and this story from People
magazine came out and one of the reasons why everyone's
thinking this is potentially true is that, as I often say,
we don't mean to do pr for People magazine, but
they do check all their sources before they put something out.
(16:53):
That's why when celebrities want to release something like Hugh
Jackman and Sutton Foster, like finally releasing information at their
relationship and all that sort of stuff, they go through
people because they had that back channel setup.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
So not the Daily Mail.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, it's not like one of those old school tabloids
where someone in the office will just be like, oh,
I'll write this and I'll beat this, yeah, and all
those sorts of things, like they've actually checked. So they
put out an article saying that Katie Perry and Orlando
Blooms romance, they said, is navigating troubled waters, which I
feel like the writer people.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Make it at any point.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, I feel like the writer was probably like, oh,
this has come from Katie in Orlando's team or a friend,
so we've got to sort of say it. We don't
want to say they're breaking up, but they say. An
insider told People the couple experienced strain in their relationship
amid the release of her latest album, and another source
says there is no turning back. They're pretty much done,
a source tells People, adding that they don't really see
(17:45):
them being able to turn things around. It's been breaking
down the last couple of months and it isn't looking good.
And then they said about Katie touring at the moment,
this comeback means a lot to her and she wants
to give fans the best show. This makes me feel
like this part's coming from Katie's team. She's happy and
just focused on her tour and her daughter Daisy Dove,
four and a half years old, is with her and
their sightseeing and having fun. And they said they've contacted
(18:08):
both Katie Bloom and Katie Bloom, Davy Perry, and Orlando Bloom,
who did not respond to their request to say yes
or no the story is correct or incorrect, Which is
kind of interesting because I guess celebrities get like requests
like this every day. People say like, we're running a
story about you, do want to comment? And if you do,
if the celebrity then does comment, then it kind of
gives free rein for the story to keep going. But
(18:29):
I do wonder if there was a huge story like
this in People magazine that you might just say like
we're very happy together or something everything if it was
a complete not true. And the other thing is, again,
this could be just a wardrobe thing. We don't know.
The other thing is that she's been sided out without
her wedding ring in Australia.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Wear it.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I actually think she doesn't always wear it from.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
What I never wear mine and I you're.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Currently an unmarried lady. Do you know where it is? No?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
What, It's just somewhere at home.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It's somewhere at home.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I just don't look. Look. I don't like to be touched.
I wear jewelry out to work sometimes. I just I'm
not someone that would just wear it at home.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I just feel a lot better if you said, yeah,
it's in my second top drawer or something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
It's in my cupboard somewhere.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Okay, feeling better. I'd love you to check that when
you go home. But no, she doesn't worry it all
the time. Kind of I guess fifty to fifty. I
don't know. I'm not really tracking Katie Perry's wedding ring,
but I feel like she often doesn't wear it on
red carpets and stuff. If it's not like the vibe
of her very start. But the difference to them, you.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Do think that. I'm like, yeah, you need to take
your ring off, especially if it's quite an ostentatious diamond ring.
Sometimes it really doesn't go with the outfit.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Take it off. That's so true. And no one's gonna
think you're divorced. Well, they obviously will because they do well,
but hey, it's Pierre. But the difference then is that
a lot of times where she's seen without it, she's
with Orlando Bloom, so it's less of a big headline
making kind of thing, whereas she hasn't been seen with
him for a while and she's not wearing her ring,
and there's a story in People magazine and that's all
(19:52):
the evidence we have.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I say, when you just said that, you know, the
sources say that things haven't been dol for a few months. Celebrities,
I feel like they don't give it enough of a try,
because a few months doesn't seem like a very long time.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I know, but a few months since it sort of
hit the publicity circuit, like it could have been happened
for a really long time. Okay, you know again, we
just don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
No, I just feel like celebs. They're used to getting
everything that they want in their lives being so easy.
They're like, oh, things are a little bit hard, I
mean hard. Yeah, Oh fuck this, let's get a divorce.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I mean I don't know. They've been together for like,
I don't know, six seven years something like that, exactly. Yeah,
so they count celep and she's had a rough time
of it. Let's not forget she was married to Russell
Brand that poor woman.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Like, so she went to one of these shows in
Sydney where he made awful.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, and he's currently being accused of rape, so she's
been through him quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. And then
I actually, can I just say on the record that
I'll be very sad if they break up because I've
always felt that they have this like kind of you know,
cutesy romance.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Six seven years, that's a great relationship.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
But she has said on the record what she wants
from a partner. So she went and call her daddy
and she said, if he cleans the kitchen, I'll give
him a blowjob, Like it's all I care about. She's like,
I'll have sex with you or do whatever you want
if you just clean up after yourself. Maybe he didn't
clean the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Maybe he did not. Okay, more break up news.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I know we're sorry to bring you all this sad.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's not really well.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
This whe we die not.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Also, they don't have to be sad.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
You could still be friends, could be no longer romantically
beautiful way to put it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yes, the other breakup stories circulate at the moment, and
to be fair, these two never talk about their relationships,
so it could be nothing. But the world is quite
certain that after eight years together that Chris Muttin, who
is the lead singer of cole Play but more famously old.
I think it's Oneth Paltrow's ex husband and dad Apple
and Moses. Okay, they have the two children together. Yeah,
(21:43):
do you know I hate that. I know this the
information that sticks in my brain. Moses because he's got
a song called Moses or it's got Moses in it.
And when she was pregnant with their son, she would
go and watch him play, and every time the song
Moses came on, he would start kicking, so they called
him Moses.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Oh cute.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I don't know why I know that.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But because you're a wealth of celebrity.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Because I just read things they do so well.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
That they have been dating you for eight years. I
swear that I thought she was like twenty two.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Oh no, she's in her thirties. But they've been together
for but he's like in his late forties. It's like
quite a So here's the tabloody side of it before
we get into other side. So one is that they've
never been super super public. They don't like walk off
a whole bunch of red carpets together or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Remember, up until a few months ago, I didn't know
that they were together. I thought she was with Pedro
Pascal and.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
That was like, oh wow, that was a great deal.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I almost wanted to let you come on the podcast
and put that information out here.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
But no, you know, we love to start romas.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, yeah, and that would have been a big one.
But yeah, So they it's been the last couple of
months that people have started to say, like, are they
not together? Because even though they never do a lot
of publicy together, so they never talk about each other
in interviews, they want red carpets together, anything like that,
but they always pitch it out like hugging in the street,
arms around each other all so I think they just like,
we're gonna go out and live our lives and we're
(22:56):
gonna get photographed and who cares. And she'll often go
to his concerts and stuff and like be in the
background all that sort of stuff. And Gwyneth, of course,
Gwyneth is a chatty girl and nothing's off the record
for her has talked about how much she loves having
Dakota as like a sister wife and how close they are,
and they've posted photos together, so she's like, really, you know,
in the fold of the family, Dakota.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Is just so sarcastic and not wellness. But no, but
Gwyneth is very very sarcastic, but Dakota is just so
not goop. It just I really, I guess I've got
lots of friends with vastly different interests.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I actually think Dakota is very goop. I actually think
that she would be very much. She's been raised in
that very intense Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Work she pretends not to be.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I think she's Yeah, I think her persona is just
like I'm just a quirky every girl. But I'm sure
behind the scenes she's eating like very yeah, she's eating
kale and having like yeah, and having like, you know,
the juice of a snail squeeze into her paws and
stuff like she I think she is I do that
and I'm not. Yeah, but you're a beauty influencer, so
I actually think that wouldn't be that. Gwyneth Paltrow is
(23:58):
very much the world she grew up in. So if
anyone's out of the lupet's Chris Martin, so she's very
in that circle. But recently they haven't been pictured together,
and then the rumor mills started that they've broken up
with people. They have. They have come out with a
full statement. That's the thing to say. That's why I
feel like no one behind the scenes has talked about it.
So when I say people, I mean like people on
the street, not people magazine.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
People on the street looking outside their house.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, which they do think they've broken up because they
haven't done even little references to each other for a while.
They pictured together, and also it's just the rumor mill,
and people are also saying that it's because the age
gap has kind of become a bigger thing, but also
that he was dragging his feet on their wedding. She's
never said they're engaged. Or anything like that, but it's
kind of been thought for a long time. But they're engaged,
(24:42):
so it's out in the world. The interesting thing is
that they never talk about being together, so they would
never address a rumor that they were broken up.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
They wouldn't even out themselves as been.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Seeing addressed so so publicly with such an intensity they
haven't seen around them before that I'm just thinking, like,
maybe it's true to an extent.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
And as we were saying, she's been very KOOKI extra cookie, yes,
and her little publicity.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
So that's the interesting thing that if she was, if
she wasn't in the public eye at all, I'd be
kind of maybe less inclined to believe it, because why
would she come out and do an interview about being
with someone when she's off the publicity circuit. But she's
very on the publicity circuit at the moment, and it's
been a very kind of like very specific way that's
been done. So she's doing publicity for her new movie Materialists,
in which she stars with Pedro Pascal. And also.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Maybe he is her secret boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You think that he broke him up, He certainly did.
I don't even think that, however, I would love that
to be true, because we would just dine out on
that for weeks.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yes, yeah, what a glorious day for content, Well a
not a glorious day for Chris Mattin.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
No poor Chris Mauttin or Pedroc Yeah I don't yeah,
well no Pedro Perscal never publicly has a partner, any
kind of partner, so we never know what's going on
with him. He often has his sister coming to all
their events and stuff. But he and Takota have been
like pictured at concerts together. In one of them, they'd
been pitched like on the street together. But they're doing
press together, so that's kind of fine. He was wearing
(26:10):
her shirt at one of the concerts, and what she said.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Just they shmacked him and he couldn't find his own.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I mean, well, she says, because he was dressed inappropriately
for the cold weather and she had to give him
a shirt. But I just I think if they were
sleeping to here, they maybe just woantn't be so blatant.
So I one hundred percent don't think that's story. Yeah,
I mean, or maybe they want to throw us off
so many things. So she's on this press to a
for the Materialists, which is a great movie. If anyone
hasn't seen it yet, it will you just come to cinemas.
(26:37):
But it's both great and harrowing and beautiful and also
sometimes ridiculous. But like, I can't stop thinking about this movie.
And so, but that movie is all about finding the
one and how do you choose the person you want
to spend your life with? And do you go like
do you just.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Get the one? That's like the modern day hitch oh too.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I don't know anyone say it like that before. But
she plays a match maker. Yeah, so she plays a
matchmaker in a movie Dakota Johnson, and she's got this
like long term entanglement with Chris Evans, but his character
isn't right for her. And then she meets Pedro Pascal's character,
who's like this billionaire, you know, unicorn of a man
who is looking for a wife, and she starts dating
him and then it's kind of like this like triangle
(27:16):
between the three of them and this love story of
who she should be with Jess like in real life, Well, yeah,
Chris and Pedro just offer Chris battling it out exactly.
So she's on the and she's been going so hard
on the promo tour for this movie. And so she's
been doing like so many a lot of press, a
lot of different press, but saying nothing because you can
(27:37):
see that she has either not that she had answers
personal questions, but her team has said, like, she's not
doing any real life questions. So she's doing a lot
of games and gimmicks and other celebrities podcasts. So she
went on Amy Pola's podcast, Good Hang. But even then
she was like, she brought a puppy with her, being like,
look at the puppy, don't look at me, don't talk
to me.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
They haven't talked about silly things not yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And they're having this silly back and forth. And she's been,
you know, going to doing the talk show circuit, and
she always has the scene where she comes out in
a dress and then sits down and then is like
shocked and horrified that like her dress is really short,
her boob is falling out or something like that. She's
done that, which I understand that except me, Yeah, And
I don't even think she's doing it to show her boob.
I think she'd actually wouldn't care if the world saw
(28:18):
her boobs or not. But I think it's just like
little quirky thing.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
We have seen her boobs, haven't we, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
In Fifty Shades all three movies, and they're beautiful. But
I think it's more so that she was just like
she comes out with these little things, like she knows
that that will kind of go through the time and
so they won't have to ask her any questions because
she's folding a napkin into her dress and then that
becomes the viral moment that everyone shares on TikTok and
then no one's talking about she's the other stuff she is, Well,
she's been raised in Hollywood. She's like third is her
(28:44):
mom again, Her mom is Melanie Griffiths, Yeah, and her
dad is the actor Don Johnson, and then her stepfather
is Antonio Banderas. But then her grandmother is Tippy Heddrohn,
who's one of the most iconic old school Hollywood actresses.
So she's a third generation NEPO baby.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Oh love it.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
And it shows those genes have been like mixed around
a few times and they've come out to this like
just quirky weird girl is She's the.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
One that was like I was homeless, like trying to yeah, yeah,
you weren't.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, but she loves to weave a story.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
She does.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
She's been doing that so she One interesting one that
she did was with Vanity Fair and she's doing the
lie Detective test and obviously, like you kind of like
her and her team must like pre feed them questions
to ask because and I think she was saving this
story for it to kind of be this big moment
on the press tour because she said this.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You once sent a man who broke your friend's heart
a gallon of gorilla shit? Can you confirm or deny
that this happened? I mean, there's no way that he
would watch this, So yes, I did do that. How
would one order something like that asking for a friend?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Shit senders dot com you can order any kind, any size, truthful.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I didn't know that I have.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Is that a real place? She sent me stock calm? Look, yeah,
please just called shit shit senders dot com because I
thought she must have been joking, Like I've seen the
clip going around. I love how she's like, he'll never
watch this. I'm like, he won't have a chance because
this has been broadcast on like every single social media
platform probably knows.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, someone sent him a bag of shit.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
But gorilla shit is so specific.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Is it big or stinky?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I think it would be. I can't save ever is
it real?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Okay? Oh my god, that one isn't but okay, okay.
There is Poopsenters dot com, shit express dot com. Then
there's a Reddit thread. Somebody keeps she somebody keeps sending
me shit literally literal shit from poop centers dot com
and I don't and I don't know who it is.
(30:40):
And it's been consecutive for the fourth time, and I
want to sue her harassment. Yet the policy of the
company keeps the center anonymous. I know you may laugh
at my case, but I've been getting shit literal sheit
sent to me.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
That is actually so upsetting I would die, But it's
so funny.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I need to find out how much this. Yeah, I
think that the regular folk can do all.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I mean, it would have put on the company card,
like who do we hate? I can think of so
many celebrities.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
A simple way to send a piece of shit around
the world.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I love that there's a market for this. How good
is that order?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Now?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Does it? Can you actually order gorilla shit? Or is
that off the market? Now?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Animal? Okay? I can choose an elephant or ele ow.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I feel like elephant, right, Elephant.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Shit would be huge. I think cows and also like,
but cow you could kind of get yourself.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Elephant should have be much harder.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
You've gotta scoop it up, put it in a bag,
then take it to the PI.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
I feel like at least that's attainable, like you, I
mean not in Sydney, but like right, like from my hometown,
there's cows and fields around. So an elephant you'd have
to hop the fence at Tronkazoo. Okay, okay, is it
reasonably priced?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
No, this is a different website with actual prices. Percenters
dot com, the one that the surf from Reddit was
upset about. Cow jung so for a court seventeen ninety five.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
That's so reasonable.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Elephants crap a court eighteen ninety five. Gorilla pooh twenty dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh my god, she didn't even break the budget to
send that.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
She really there's a combo pack. You can send a
pack for ninety dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I mean I feel like she went for the megapack.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, no, that's all three.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Oh oh, that's beautiful, Gorilla.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
It's like gettingn Elephant Cow.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
It's like a fild where you order the sliders and
you can get a different burger for each one. It's like, fum, wow,
I really thought she was lying. I'm sorry to Coda Johnson.
I thought you were lying about saying the shit, but
you weren't. And now you've also opened up this world
to us.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And we have now given any spiller looking for a yes,
quite an affordable way to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
And affordable revenge is really what I'm looking for exactly,
and also low stakes because like there's so many people
I want it to take.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Is that a really harassment?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah? I mean I think yes, if you keep doing
it and if you're saying there threatening missage. But there's
so many people I'd love to take revenge against. But
I'm so lazy.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm way too lazy.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Oh I know that what I mean, Like I think
about it, but then I'm like, oh, I have to
go do this, like I have to. I can't even
go to the post office. I can't do revenge. But
that's so easy, so easy.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Another one that I did have someone do for me
as a joke, Yeah, revenge, but was like you send
like a thing and like just a bunch of glitter
dicks arrives. Oh, and you open it and it just explodes.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
That's kind of festive though if someone sent me that, though,
I wouldn't think it's annoying to clean up glitter. But
I also think if someone sent me that, I'd be like, oh,
I was wasteful.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
At least who isn't wasted?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, you could probably garden there. So she said that
to distruct us, which it absolutely did.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Oh well, yeah, oh my god. Why did she say
these quirky, weird things.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
It's so we dedicated ten minute ten where.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
We start googling how to send someone shit.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
She's a clever girl, so she's I think she's been
putting that out there because it must be really if
what we think is true, and that they are going
through this really intense breakup after being together for eight years,
after like you know, according to Goneth Paltrow, her kids
see her as another mother and they are breaking up. Yeah,
as another mother and then they are breaking up. That
would be really intense. But the intensity would be so
(34:02):
heightened if you're then on oppress to have been asked.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
What people are going to ask, Yeah, but also.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Being asked like some of the interviews I've seen two
the more kind of focused ones are like, how do
you know if you're in love? How do you know
if you found the one? And that's why she and
Pedro keep like doing these little cutesy answers.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
As a kid.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Cokey cokey mm hmm, spelled the way the frog is spelled.
Cokey see o q u I hyky cock. Yeah, my
nickname is a little girl was cock fucking idiot? Oh
(34:40):
my god. But really she's on a press too, talking
about finding true love while she's potentially lost her true love.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Oh that, Laura.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
You could not be these little celebs. I feel bad
for them sometimes, so I do hope that one isn't true.
I hope kay only do our truet as well. But
that's the thing, like these.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Stories just come to everyone could get a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But I also just sink these sometimes these stories blow
up with such intensity and they have a lifespan of
over a year, and they never come to for a
and then after a while we get we just never
talk about the fact that we were a pick, that
this that these couples in our eyes were broken up
for months and months and months and they're having another kid.
The other sign that people think they're broken up just
(35:23):
me is that Chris Martin's also been on tour recently
and she hasn't been there, which when she's on a
press to us. When she's on a press tour, she
doesn't go to his shows. But as he was finishing
one of his shows, he yelled out, this, don't forget
to go and see like serious, we love you, we
(35:43):
think love bless him.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Why would that be a sign there, well, because he's
never done that before.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
They don't reference each other in any way, So people
are thinking, like, you could take it both ways. You
could take it the way that they have seen the headlines,
which of course you would even if you're not looking
because like Dakoda especially doesn't have the social media, but
your publishers would be telling you that. You would say like, oh,
I'm going to say that to prove that we're still together.
But that's so different to their usual playbook. What people
(36:11):
think has happened is that they have broken up. And
Chris Martin, very famously good friends with.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
His exes, consciously uncomord and he has said that as
a whole of like we're almost like a message to
her and her team and their family and stuff like
we've broken up, but I'm still gonna speak well of you,
and I'm going to tell this whole stadium of people
to go and see your movie because I know that
this is a huge week for you when you're doing
promo and I want you.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
To see it. Either way.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Nice, Yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Is very nice. Well, we'll see I I again. I
don't know if they're broken up, but only time will tell.
Until then, we have a great way to enact revenge
on our enemies. And I feel like that's the takeaway
from today.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
If you ever annoy me, expect to find a bag
of shit at your door. So thanks so much for
listening to the Spill today, and don't forget to follow
us on TikTok. The Spill is produced by Manisha Is
Warren with sound production by Tom Lyon Mom and Me
and Studios are started with furniture from Fenton and Fenton.
Visit Fenton Andfentin dot com dot au and Emma Laurel
(37:05):
will be back in your podcast feeds at three pm tomorrow.
Bye bye
Speaker 2 (37:11):
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