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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this
podcast is recorded on. From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the
Spill your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodney and
I'm m Vernon And for day's we can watch, we
(00:33):
have a whole bunch of new titles to recommend to you.
I've got a show I have O. My heart dropped
into my stomach when I opened the screener for this
because this new show I have to talk about. The
steakes was so high.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Oh, mine stomach didn't drop. I saw this.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm sure it's still good.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I saw this on my Netflix account and I looked
right up my alley and if you know me, you
know exactly where this recommendation is going.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes, So that's what's coming up on Weekend Watch today.
But first we have to talk about Are Very Infamous,
and I guess I would say iconic because it's in
its fifth season now and it's been making headlines for
well over five years. Always very divided on this show.
They're either obsessed with it they watch every episode, or
they hate it and they're like this sends a bad message.
I'm not gonna watch it, and that show is you,
(01:20):
which is coming.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
By this men Penn Badally, Yes, it's coming to an end.
So I was obsessed with you when it first started,
really obsessed because I love Penn Badally. That was the
Gossip Really what do you like?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh you like him from Gossip Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I was a gosp Girl girl and then they made
him the villain spoilers and I was like, Okay, but
I feel like because they made him the villain at
the end of Gossip Girl, it felt like he's just
Dan from Gossip Girl and this is his new yeah
alter ego. But I think what intrigued me about you,
which I felt like was similar for a lot of women,
(01:57):
was it's similar to how a lot of women love
listening to true crime. Yeah, it gives you a sort
of like not comfort, but more like proof when we
say that we're scared, like it shows us proof that
we have a right to be scared of certain situations
and certain people in our lives. And I think you
were so creatively done in a way where you like
(02:18):
he was a main character and you hated him, but
at the same time you also like empathize with him
and like his background in his childhood and the reason
why he is like that, and like the women in
his lives. You remember that season one Shane Mitchell I
was like, that was the best season ever because also
pretty little Liars.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, your world's coming coming together.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And then after season three, so I was like a
die hard fan till season three, and then after that
it just felt a bit slapstick, like it felt a
bit overdone. It felt like there's no way that he
can still be going. And it was really funny watching
the press happen alongside the seasons, because I feel like
everyone was so obsessed with him as a person. He's
(02:57):
like this really good looking guy. He's very charismatic. He
had the similar I guess, vibe as Adam Brody when
he was doing Nobody Wants This, And then when his
character started getting really annoying, it felt like every got
the bit of an eck from Penn Badglor. Yeah, and
he's kind of just like laid in the shadows. I
feel like since then.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, that's interesting. When the first season of You came out,
I thought it was a really interesting, like it's an
interesting piece of television, Like very compelling. I remember sitting
down like binging the whole season in one go because
it was this thing, like it's that kind of true crime,
serial killer esque story that people love so much.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But my deal boyfriend, right, Yeah, he's beautiful, he's kind,
he reads.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, it's like you're seeing like the woman that he's stalking.
You're seeing like one side of their relationship of them
having this like meet cu Like one part of you
is very much a rom com like single goal living
in the city, big beautiful apartment. How does she for that?
Don't ask questions? And then she meets this guy and
he's in a bookstore and it's all very lovey WC.
There's that part of the story and then the other
(03:58):
part that you're seeing him stalk her through his eyes
and you're seeing all of that and you're getting that
voice over and his narration on the bit of the end,
where again I mean we're talking about season four here,
so just like littered with spoilers all the through obviously
the bit of the end when she's locked in the
glass page under and like she nearly.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Gets away, she really gets away.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And then it kills her, and then he moves on
and kills multiple other people throughout the whole show. So
I started falling off a bit as the seasons went on. Also,
I wrote a really negative review about it when it
came out, only because it just was at this time
where it was that Pete kind of fetishizing like young
beautiful woman being brutally killed on TV, which is obviously
still a thing now, and it's still a thing in podcasts,
it's some thing in books, this thing everywhere, but it
(04:39):
was at a moment where it was just so prominent and
no one was really saying anything about it, and I
was like, why are we kind of like holding this
up as like the epitome of entertainment? Yeah, when it's
also starting to feel a little dull. That's always its
biggest crime. I'll forgive anything if it's super entertaining, like
none of my high horse about anything that is like
really compelling, but it does start to get a bit
(04:59):
like overly played out, and I felt.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That with you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But it's coming into season five and I think a
lot of people who have dropped off, like you might
want to jump back in now.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I definitely will be.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, because at the end of season four, we had
this idea with Joe, he was confronting, like there's this
other serial killer, and then it turned out it was
like a very fight club esque sequence where you found
out that he wasn't real. He was a figment of
his imagination. So it's kind of this idea that as
much as all the way the thing about you is,
like all the way through, Joe's been like I'm a
good guy. It is the other women that are doing
(05:28):
this stuff to me, or like he helds people accountable
and stuff, but now you kind of see like he
just really is a serial killer.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
He's just a loser.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I feel like also fans who are die hard fans
of this show, I think we all want the same
outcome from season five. I think we want him dead.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
That's what a lot of people think. And I guess
that does seem like where it has to end, right
because at the end of season four we saw him
and Kate, which is his current kind of love interest.
He's sort of come out like he's back using his
real name, he's back in his reel identity. They're doing
all these press rounds to kind of explain what has happened,
and like journalists are starting to probe into Joe's past,
which is like a bit uncomfortable. They've also set up
(06:06):
this foundation. They're like, we're gonna open art schools in
New York and London. And then Joe's like, like he's
spontaneously just bought a bookshop and that's closing down and
everyone's like, is it the bookshop from the first season?
So you've got him back in his real life and
it's all set up for like he's set up to
be like the winner. So something is going to unfold
in this new season where but does it feel I
(06:26):
don't know, if he dies at the end, does that
feel like it's kind of like a come up in
his character? Or will he die a kind of like
his own hand, like it'll die in like some sort
of a fiery blaze of glory, Like will they kind
of like end it as him being a hero? Is
what I want to know?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Oh my god, maybe you should write for the show.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Maybe I'm sure? And then what happened? Yeah, you're looking
at me is if I know you'll look across the table.
You're like, tell me about the last time. Yeah, I mean,
I don't know. I don't know if they're taking edits
at this point in time. But I also would say,
I like, if you haven't watched the first season, it
is really good TV, really, and apart from then, I
know they've got like the next couple of seasons. Well,
(07:04):
you've watched more than I have. But yeah, it gets
does it like brutal?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah? No more cringe.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Oh like, hey, brutal.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It does get brutal though, But then I think in
the seasons like in between, you find him that he is,
you still see like a person within him. I feel
like season one really made him look like a crazy,
animalistic killer, which I feel like was also the end
of season four, But the seasons in between, you see
like little hints that he which sounds so shitty, especially
(07:33):
for coming from me, a woman's he is just a
person who he's just a boy. He's just a guy
doing boys things. Boys will be boys guys.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And it cuts to Joe from you with his body
of women. He's brutally killed Jesus Christ. The thing I
always find interesting about you is how every time a
new season comes out, all the headlines go over where
Penn Badgeley hates the character of Joe and thinks you
should too, And I was like that is me. We
do that. That is not a hot take, pen Like,
(08:03):
it's not it's not him, it's the publications. You run
it like it's not a hot take. What's he supposed
to say that the killer? I wish I could just
I've modeled many parts of myself off Joe. I really
understand where he's coming from. Like he's not going to
say that, but again, I do understand why also why
girls are lusting after him. Everyone loves a bad boy.
But can I just say when we say I love
(08:23):
a bad boy, it's too bad? This is too bad?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Too bad?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Direction the other way, maybe some like tax fraud exactly,
or like someone robbing from the Richard Robin hood, or
even just some like you know, killing an enemy or
something like that. That's where, okay, benin stalking women we
draw the line. This. So the final season of You
is our Netflix. Now I guess we can go see
(08:46):
how it ends, all right?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Can I talk about my recommendation first? Please do good
luck trying to figure out all that it's about.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
For those who don't know Emily's i'd say a beautiful
part of your personality.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Elbie, I don't know if you've listened to the episode
where I talked about Sinners with kel. After I talked
about it, I haven't she yet, but I'm going to
go buy it. But I explained the whole movie to
her and then we were talking, and then after that
she was like, so, what's the movie about? And I
realized I didn't explain.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Listeners would dough that one of Emily's most endearing qualities
is that she will watch a movie or a TV show,
she will love it. She'll get so vestaed, she'll think
about it night and days, she'll talk about it, and
when you ask her to explain the plot, she doesn't know.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You were dealing get this job.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I honestly don't know the.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
First time it happened to us. Sorry to tangent here,
but the first time we remember we were friends, but
i'd only just started on the podcast now to explain
the Witch.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
That is my favorite memory of You had no idea
of the character's names, no idea what happened, no idea
of the plot, no idea of the books that was
based on, and you went hard. You were like, I'm
going to do a recap of the three seasons. I'm
going to get really intimate. Explain it. And we just
got so muddled and by the end, I said, let's
start at the beginning. What is a witcher?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And you were like, still don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So I wait for the new season with all right, well,
we're gonna have to you do your explanation of your
weekend watching, and I guess we'll throw in like a
Wikipedia summary or something for the listeners to work out.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Oh, I'm gonna set the scene.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Here I was sitting on my couch looking for a
movie to watch, going through all of my subscriptions. I
feel like when I'm channeling for something to watch. Netflix
is the automatic when I go to and I think
that's just because I'm so used to the like menu
options on there, and it's like perfectly tailored to what
I want to watch things you want. The algorithm nailed
this because I saw a little icon can come up
(10:45):
that was like recommended for me, and it was called Havoc,
and like I needed discay an more.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I would have said to anyone who asked me, this
is an Emily Verner movie.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I need to describe this poster to you because it
was like iconic. So I'm watching my TV and it's
like this icon and think of like old school movie posters.
We have like people in the foreground, people in the background,
and they're like blending out. And then the middle has
the word havoc. And then and right on the top
front and center is Tom Hardy.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Oh okay, say no more?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
And Tom Hardy with like his shaved head.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And you love your Tom Hardy's biggest say.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I love I.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Know. I don't hear that many people say, you know who?
I love it a movie Tom Hardy, Like, I know
people like him, but you have a huge emotional connection
to this man. I think about it again. You have
you cried his cinematic work, including Venom and Venam too.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I mean he's been nominated for an Oscar has he Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Okay, great?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I think if he hasn't he will now with Havoc.
I don't know, you never know, you never know. It
also starts Forrest Witteger, who is one of my favorite
actors of all time. But Havoc is about so I
sit on my TV. So Tom Hardy plays a detective.
Forgotten his name. He plays a detective, and he's like
(12:04):
one of those detectives that you can tell has like
a darkening past. He basically plays Tom Hardy. Like every
game Tom Hardy's played, it's this detective. So he's like
this detective and you know what, he's not afraid to
get dirty, Like if he has to break the rules,
he breaks the rules. There's all these murders happening, and
not just murders, but so much it is happening in
the city kind of like Batman like Gotham. That's the
vibe of the city. But don't worry, Venom's not in
(12:26):
this one.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
That would be a great crossing.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
So but then Forrest Woodheger plays a politician. What happens
is it's like this crime happens, like a really really
big crime, and Tom Hardy was like, hey, this could
be the politician's son. And then he goes up to
the politician Forest He's like, hey, your son's involved, and
(12:49):
Forest's like, no, my son is not involved, but he
is missing, Tom Hardy, you need to find him right now.
And Tom Hardy's like, I got this. Forest is not.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Meant to be a comedy, right, No, it's so serious.
It's really serious.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
It's like an action thriller. So it's like a mystery
because like where's the sun?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
But at giving it comedic over.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Sorry, but that's just because I don't know how to explain.
And then Tom Hardy just goes on this big adventure
in the city to find this missing son, and he's
like acting like kind of like a protective dad, but
also like he's not afraid to kill some people.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I would believe that Tom Hardy. Do you remember that
story that came out so many years ago now, but
I'll never forget it. This woman was giving this police
report that she had had her bag snatched in London.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And Tomarty saved her.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh my god. This man saw this woman get like
pushed over her bag stolen, and he chased the man
through the streets, got them, I want to say, man
handle them a little bit, got her bag back and
was like here you go, then went on his way,
and everyriend's like, that was Tom Hardy.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So I reckon, Like they filmed them doing that and
they put it in this movie. Yeah, like it would
have been like exact.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
He's out there fighting crime on the streets that show
like an actor who fights crime and oh my god,
and it's Tom Hardy's real life story.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
WHOA And then what happens?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Then he crosses the wrong criminal anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Havoc is like crazy, crazy actioning, a bit gruesome but
not too much.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
But it's like, well, you don't like super super gruesome
stuff like.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah about all the time, but I like I like
guns the Blaze, Yeah, kind of like strong, like these
actionally strong men who've been in the industry for a
really long time, like Expendables, best movie of all time.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You always wonder if i'd anyone asks me what's Emily's
favorite movies? I would say all male casts. You do
just like the ladies in there. Lots of action, lots
of action, but no one really gets too hurt or
dies too badly.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
If you have a fifteen year old son, what if
he likes I like.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, and then also people become friends at the end.
I feel like you like actually like Teams of Men, yeah,
which was like this was a risk for me because
it's just Tom Hardy solo kind of like taking like
a Liam Nielsen. He's going for that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But I prefer teams of men. But this is still
really good.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Okay, Well it's good that you're branching out from teams
of men to one man. Anyway, Having on Netflix recommendation,
you did a really good job of.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Explaining that I'm sorry if this movie is so different
to what what I just said. It's a rock comment.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Everyone's like, it's actually a political thriller. One of the
reasons why I was very, very nervous to watch this
new series, which came out on Prime video last night,
is because it was made by one of my favorite
TV creators of all time. Do you know the name
Amy Sherman Palladino, maybe in old little show called Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, I love Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yes, obviously you have a soul. Yes, I love. She
is the creator, writer, director, executive producer, everything of Gilmore Girls.
She out of the idea with sitting in a little
in Connecticut and wrote it on a napkin what it
was going to be, and then she.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Shaped stuff on napkin.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Well, she's what she had a brainwave about, like a
young mother living in a small Connecticut town and all
these different characters and her rich family. She had to
get that shit down all she has a napkin.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Oh my god. I feel like this is a common
theme with like great artists. It's like always writing a
first idea down on napkin and then they frame it
for like generations.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, I don't know what that napkin is, but I
would sell my soul for it anyway. Amy sham and Palladino,
the creator Gilmore Girls, also the creator of another one
of my favorite TV shows of all time, and, in
my opinion, but also other critics' opinion, one of the
best TV shows of all time, The MARVELOUSNESSUS Maisel. Yes, yeah,
you've watched it. Yes, amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So my mom got me into that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, because your mom has excellent taste. Every time we
talk about a very similar yes, and I don't find that.
I find that great.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Actually that's better than having taste like me.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yes. Everything Amy and Shaman Perladino does is very light
on like big casts of men. It's usually about women,
you know, and these like quick and always like these big,
sprawling casts of characters. And she's also really well known
for her dialogue. It's always so sharp, so fast, lots
of pop culture references. That's something that you can see
in Gilmore Girls and also in The Marvelessness Is Maisl.
The pace is really yeah, the pain and she's so
(16:56):
particular about it, and you can kind of see when
she takes her hands off a show because she very
infamously left Gilmore Girls in the final seasons there was
like a thing with a network, and so a lot
of people when they talk about not loving the last
season of Gilmore Girls, it's kind of just because Amy
Palladino and Dan Palladino, her husband, who works on everything
with her, if their creative force wasn't there, then they
came out and made Gilmore Girls A Year in the Life.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Which was actually really good.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, I stand by that. A lot of people hate it.
I don't. She also made the short lived show butN
Heads with Sutton Foster. Have you.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, I've heard of it, but.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's on Disney Plus. You should absolutely watch it and
it's got Kelly Bishop who wears Emily Gilmore and Gilmore Girls. Anyway,
this woman has created this whole TV universe that's just
so incredible. So when I found out that she had
a new show coming out, I was excited and nervous.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Okay, the name of the show.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
And before I say the name of the show, can
I just say, do not message me and say I
pronounced it wrong. Oh no, you know why I pronounced
it wrong because I don't speak French. Oh it's a
French show. Yeah, well it's got a French name. Oh okay,
and so my North Queensland accents really going to come here.
The show is called Etoit. So we've been saying the
office because we're all obsessed with this show obviously because
we're all Amy Showman Palladino girls, and we were talking
(18:05):
about how to say it properly and the Natara, one
of our writers, like you just to say it with confidence.
So that's what I'm going to do. So the show
is called Etoi. It's about thank you. That's the last
time I said. It's about these two different ballet companies
and the drama that happens. So it's like a ballet
drama d which are ballet off yes, exactly, so, which
is interesting because Bunheads was also a ballet show, but
(18:25):
that was very much more like her. Is she a
ballet loose? I think she likes a bit of ballet anyhow,
and Palladinoor, I don't think it's a ballet dancer.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
But maybe she was just like you know, when you
just get like a fixation on one.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Probably she's like a small town drama New York comedy scene.
Ballet in her areas of interest. So you have Jack,
who is the executive director of the Metropolitan Ballet Theater
in New York City is one of the main characters,
and then Genevieve, who is the interim director of La
Ballet Nationale in the Paris. So you have these two
(18:57):
iconic ballet institutions who are both really struggling that both
of their new seasons have flopped. They can't get people
in to see their companies. Basically, ballet is going to
die forever. The stakes are high. No more Balerie, but
I loved some one, like, well, people aren't buying tickets
to the ballet in this world. So what they do
is they get together, and they also have a bit
of an interesting past. Jack and Genevieve have a romantic
(19:20):
past and very very flirting. Now this whole kind of
thing between them. They decide to have this one year
experiment where they trade some of their dancers. So then
you have the show going back and forth between Paris
New York as you bring like different dancers into companies,
and then it's kind of almost like Center Stage s
you know, the iconic early two thousands movie where you
have all of these incredible and this is what Amy
(19:40):
Shaman Paladina does really well is doing a big cast
of characters and the way they all bounce off each
other because obviously you have these two ballet companies like
desperately trying to stay afloat, and then you have like
you know, the prima donna ballerinas and the new ballerines
coming in, plus all the people who were like involved
in the ballet, and it's almost like this fish out
of water because they swapped the primo dancers around and
it's this whole kind of thing. So we've got and
(20:01):
they're all looking up with each other too.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Whoa sexy?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So you've got ballet, drama, ballet sex, you know, and
it looks beautiful, like it just like every Amy show
and Palladino show just looks you know, Gilmore Girls is
just like this fan color and everything's so gorgeous and
like the set dressing is incredible, and then the marvelous
miness is Maizel. Sometimes I just think that show can't
be real. It is the most beautiful.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
It feels like like just like a stage production, yes exactly.
It feels like this big theatrical production that's on here.
Streen and that's what feels like watching. Also, there's lots
of characters in there who well, the cast is incredible.
First of all, Charlotte Gainsborough plays Genevieve. She's a very
famous French and English actress and she usually does a
lot more when you've seen her in like really dramatic,
(20:43):
gritty roles, so watching her in something that's both a
drama and a comedy is really amazing. And then Luke
Kirby is in it as well, so he plays Jack,
one of the leaves. So he's Lenny Bruce from The
Marvelous Missus Maize. Oh my god, yeah, you know that
the other comic helps me Geelong.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
They hook up and.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Now he's in this show.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yes, and he's one of the leads in this show.
So if you like love the Marvelessess is Mazel and
you loved Lenny Bruce from that, he's in this. And
then the other thing that made me realize happy is
that Yannick Trusdelle, who played Michelle Gerard in Gilmore Girls,
as in like Michelle, why I'm not even saying who
he is? People know, like you guys, don't you've watched
Gilmore Girls, plays Rafael and just watching him back on
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screen in an Amy Sherman Palladino show, like, I literally, wait.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Does this I get first gig since Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
No, he's done other stuff, but this is kind of,
like I guess, one of his really big acting roles.
And because he's coming back into the Amy Sherman Palladino universe,
it's such a big deal. So I got like really
like emotional when he came on stage.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It's just so cute.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
So there's eight episodes. It's really beautiful, good. Don't watch
it if you're like looking for another Gilmore Girls or
another it's definitely more masl esque, but it's also its
own show. I guess, like it's just an entertaining show.
It looks beautiful, it's interesting. It's not going to reach
the heights of Gilmore Girls a Mazel, I don't think.
But also like that's really yeah, you know what I mean.
That's a really high start. So and it does get
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a little kind of uneven towards the end a little bit,
but it starts off really strong, and I just think, like,
sit down and give it a chance and just let
yourself get immersed in this world, because it's really interesting.
Don't be looking at your phone. You've got to be
a thing about an Amy showman paladine. I'm sure you've
got to be taking playing attention to a dialogue.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Move so fast.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It moved so fast, the jokes, the references, the like
little quips between the characters, like there's so Mantle one
las one where like this one Ballerina hooks up with
someone on a couch and she was like, but she listened, queens,
I wasn't going there, so we sucked on the couch. Like.
It's just so fast paced. So it's at et spelt.
I'll just spell that in case anyone's looking right on
Prime video. E t oh, I l e on Prime video.
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Eight episodes. I'd love you to watch it and just
kind of get your vibeline. A little recap, maybe little recap.
I love to know how you explained the poor back
to me.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
The Spill is produced by Amy Kimball, with sound production
by Scott's Tronnik. And we will see you soon.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Bye bye. M
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this
podcast is recorded on. From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the
Spill your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodney and
I'm m Vernon And for day's we can watch, we
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have a whole bunch of new titles to recommend to you.
I've got a show I have O. My heart dropped
into my stomach when I opened the screener for this
because this new show I have to talk about. The
steakes was so high.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Oh, mine stomach didn't drop. I saw this.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm sure it's still good.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I saw this on my Netflix account and I looked
right up my alley and if you know me, you
know exactly where this recommendation is going.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes, So that's what's coming up on Weekend Watch today.
But first we have to talk about Are Very Infamous,
and I guess I would say iconic because it's in
its fifth season now and it's been making headlines for
well over five years. Always very divided on this show.
They're either obsessed with it they watch every episode, or
they hate it and they're like this sends a bad message.
I'm not gonna watch it, and that show is you,
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which is coming.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
By this men Penn Badally, Yes, it's coming to an end.
So I was obsessed with you when it first started,
really obsessed because I love Penn Badally. That was the
Gossip Really what do you like?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh you like him from Gossip Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I was a gosp Girl girl and then they made
him the villain spoilers and I was like, Okay, but
I feel like because they made him the villain at
the end of Gossip Girl, it felt like he's just
Dan from Gossip Girl and this is his new yeah
alter ego. But I think what intrigued me about you,
which I felt like was similar for a lot of women,
(01:57):
was it's similar to how a lot of women love
listening to true crime. Yeah, it gives you a sort
of like not comfort, but more like proof when we
say that we're scared, like it shows us proof that
we have a right to be scared of certain situations
and certain people in our lives. And I think you
were so creatively done in a way where you like
(02:18):
he was a main character and you hated him, but
at the same time you also like empathize with him
and like his background in his childhood and the reason
why he is like that, and like the women in
his lives. You remember that season one Shane Mitchell I
was like, that was the best season ever because also
pretty little Liars.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, your world's coming coming together.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And then after season three, so I was like a
die hard fan till season three, and then after that
it just felt a bit slapstick, like it felt a
bit overdone. It felt like there's no way that he
can still be going. And it was really funny watching
the press happen alongside the seasons, because I feel like
everyone was so obsessed with him as a person. He's
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like this really good looking guy. He's very charismatic. He
had the similar I guess, vibe as Adam Brody when
he was doing Nobody Wants This, And then when his
character started getting really annoying, it felt like every got
the bit of an eck from Penn Badglor. Yeah, and
he's kind of just like laid in the shadows. I
feel like since then.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, that's interesting. When the first season of You came out,
I thought it was a really interesting, like it's an
interesting piece of television, Like very compelling. I remember sitting
down like binging the whole season in one go because
it was this thing, like it's that kind of true crime,
serial killer esque story that people love so much.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But my deal boyfriend, right, Yeah, he's beautiful, he's kind,
he reads.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, it's like you're seeing like the woman that he's stalking.
You're seeing like one side of their relationship of them
having this like meet cu Like one part of you
is very much a rom com like single goal living
in the city, big beautiful apartment. How does she for that?
Don't ask questions? And then she meets this guy and
he's in a bookstore and it's all very lovey WC.
There's that part of the story and then the other
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part that you're seeing him stalk her through his eyes
and you're seeing all of that and you're getting that
voice over and his narration on the bit of the end,
where again I mean we're talking about season four here,
so just like littered with spoilers all the through obviously
the bit of the end when she's locked in the
glass page under and like she nearly.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Gets away, she really gets away.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And then it kills her, and then he moves on
and kills multiple other people throughout the whole show. So
I started falling off a bit as the seasons went on. Also,
I wrote a really negative review about it when it
came out, only because it just was at this time
where it was that Pete kind of fetishizing like young
beautiful woman being brutally killed on TV, which is obviously
still a thing now, and it's still a thing in podcasts,
it's some thing in books, this thing everywhere, but it
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was at a moment where it was just so prominent and
no one was really saying anything about it, and I
was like, why are we kind of like holding this
up as like the epitome of entertainment? Yeah, when it's
also starting to feel a little dull. That's always its
biggest crime. I'll forgive anything if it's super entertaining, like
none of my high horse about anything that is like
really compelling, but it does start to get a bit
(04:59):
like overly played out, and I felt.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That with you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But it's coming into season five and I think a
lot of people who have dropped off, like you might
want to jump back in now.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I definitely will be.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, because at the end of season four, we had
this idea with Joe, he was confronting, like there's this
other serial killer, and then it turned out it was
like a very fight club esque sequence where you found
out that he wasn't real. He was a figment of
his imagination. So it's kind of this idea that as
much as all the way the thing about you is,
like all the way through, Joe's been like I'm a
good guy. It is the other women that are doing
(05:28):
this stuff to me, or like he helds people accountable
and stuff, but now you kind of see like he
just really is a serial killer.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
He's just a loser.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I feel like also fans who are die hard fans
of this show, I think we all want the same
outcome from season five. I think we want him dead.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
That's what a lot of people think. And I guess
that does seem like where it has to end, right
because at the end of season four we saw him
and Kate, which is his current kind of love interest.
He's sort of come out like he's back using his
real name, he's back in his reel identity. They're doing
all these press rounds to kind of explain what has happened,
and like journalists are starting to probe into Joe's past,
which is like a bit uncomfortable. They've also set up
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this foundation. They're like, we're gonna open art schools in
New York and London. And then Joe's like, like he's
spontaneously just bought a bookshop and that's closing down and
everyone's like, is it the bookshop from the first season?
So you've got him back in his real life and
it's all set up for like he's set up to
be like the winner. So something is going to unfold
in this new season where but does it feel I
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don't know, if he dies at the end, does that
feel like it's kind of like a come up in
his character? Or will he die a kind of like
his own hand, like it'll die in like some sort
of a fiery blaze of glory, Like will they kind
of like end it as him being a hero? Is
what I want to know?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Oh my god, maybe you should write for the show.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Maybe I'm sure? And then what happened? Yeah, you're looking
at me is if I know you'll look across the table.
You're like, tell me about the last time. Yeah, I mean,
I don't know. I don't know if they're taking edits
at this point in time. But I also would say,
I like, if you haven't watched the first season, it
is really good TV, really, and apart from then, I
know they've got like the next couple of seasons. Well,
(07:04):
you've watched more than I have. But yeah, it gets
does it like brutal?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah? No more cringe.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Oh like, hey, brutal.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It does get brutal though, But then I think in
the seasons like in between, you find him that he is,
you still see like a person within him. I feel
like season one really made him look like a crazy,
animalistic killer, which I feel like was also the end
of season four, But the seasons in between, you see
like little hints that he which sounds so shitty, especially
(07:33):
for coming from me, a woman's he is just a
person who he's just a boy. He's just a guy
doing boys things. Boys will be boys guys.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And it cuts to Joe from you with his body
of women. He's brutally killed Jesus Christ. The thing I
always find interesting about you is how every time a
new season comes out, all the headlines go over where
Penn Badgeley hates the character of Joe and thinks you
should too, And I was like that is me. We
do that. That is not a hot take, pen Like,
(08:03):
it's not it's not him, it's the publications. You run
it like it's not a hot take. What's he supposed
to say that the killer? I wish I could just
I've modeled many parts of myself off Joe. I really
understand where he's coming from. Like he's not going to
say that, but again, I do understand why also why
girls are lusting after him. Everyone loves a bad boy.
But can I just say when we say I love
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a bad boy, it's too bad? This is too bad?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Too bad?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Direction the other way, maybe some like tax fraud exactly,
or like someone robbing from the Richard Robin hood, or
even just some like you know, killing an enemy or
something like that. That's where, okay, benin stalking women we
draw the line. This. So the final season of You
is our Netflix. Now I guess we can go see
(08:46):
how it ends, all right?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Can I talk about my recommendation first? Please do good
luck trying to figure out all that it's about.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
For those who don't know Emily's i'd say a beautiful
part of your personality.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Elbie, I don't know if you've listened to the episode
where I talked about Sinners with kel. After I talked
about it, I haven't she yet, but I'm going to
go buy it. But I explained the whole movie to
her and then we were talking, and then after that
she was like, so, what's the movie about? And I
realized I didn't explain.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Listeners would dough that one of Emily's most endearing qualities
is that she will watch a movie or a TV show,
she will love it. She'll get so vestaed, she'll think
about it night and days, she'll talk about it, and
when you ask her to explain the plot, she doesn't know.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You were dealing get this job.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I honestly don't know the.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
First time it happened to us. Sorry to tangent here,
but the first time we remember we were friends, but
i'd only just started on the podcast now to explain
the Witch.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
That is my favorite memory of You had no idea
of the character's names, no idea what happened, no idea
of the plot, no idea of the books that was
based on, and you went hard. You were like, I'm
going to do a recap of the three seasons. I'm
going to get really intimate. Explain it. And we just
got so muddled and by the end, I said, let's
start at the beginning. What is a witcher?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And you were like, still don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So I wait for the new season with all right, well,
we're gonna have to you do your explanation of your
weekend watching, and I guess we'll throw in like a
Wikipedia summary or something for the listeners to work out.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Oh, I'm gonna set the scene.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Here I was sitting on my couch looking for a
movie to watch, going through all of my subscriptions. I
feel like when I'm channeling for something to watch. Netflix
is the automatic when I go to and I think
that's just because I'm so used to the like menu
options on there, and it's like perfectly tailored to what
I want to watch things you want. The algorithm nailed
this because I saw a little icon can come up
(10:45):
that was like recommended for me, and it was called Havoc,
and like I needed discay an more.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I would have said to anyone who asked me, this
is an Emily Verner movie.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I need to describe this poster to you because it
was like iconic. So I'm watching my TV and it's
like this icon and think of like old school movie posters.
We have like people in the foreground, people in the background,
and they're like blending out. And then the middle has
the word havoc. And then and right on the top
front and center is Tom Hardy.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Oh okay, say no more?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
And Tom Hardy with like his shaved head.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And you love your Tom Hardy's biggest say.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I love I.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Know. I don't hear that many people say, you know who?
I love it a movie Tom Hardy, Like, I know
people like him, but you have a huge emotional connection
to this man. I think about it again. You have
you cried his cinematic work, including Venom and Venam too.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I mean he's been nominated for an Oscar has he Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Okay, great?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I think if he hasn't he will now with Havoc.
I don't know, you never know, you never know. It
also starts Forrest Witteger, who is one of my favorite
actors of all time. But Havoc is about so I
sit on my TV. So Tom Hardy plays a detective.
Forgotten his name. He plays a detective, and he's like
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one of those detectives that you can tell has like
a darkening past. He basically plays Tom Hardy. Like every
game Tom Hardy's played, it's this detective. So he's like
this detective and you know what, he's not afraid to
get dirty, Like if he has to break the rules,
he breaks the rules. There's all these murders happening, and
not just murders, but so much it is happening in
the city kind of like Batman like Gotham. That's the
vibe of the city. But don't worry, Venom's not in
(12:26):
this one.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
That would be a great crossing.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
So but then Forrest Woodheger plays a politician. What happens
is it's like this crime happens, like a really really
big crime, and Tom Hardy was like, hey, this could
be the politician's son. And then he goes up to
the politician Forest He's like, hey, your son's involved, and
(12:49):
Forest's like, no, my son is not involved, but he
is missing, Tom Hardy, you need to find him right now.
And Tom Hardy's like, I got this. Forest is not.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Meant to be a comedy, right, No, it's so serious.
It's really serious.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
It's like an action thriller. So it's like a mystery
because like where's the sun?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
But at giving it comedic over.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Sorry, but that's just because I don't know how to explain.
And then Tom Hardy just goes on this big adventure
in the city to find this missing son, and he's
like acting like kind of like a protective dad, but
also like he's not afraid to kill some people.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I would believe that Tom Hardy. Do you remember that
story that came out so many years ago now, but
I'll never forget it. This woman was giving this police
report that she had had her bag snatched in London.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And Tomarty saved her.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh my god. This man saw this woman get like
pushed over her bag stolen, and he chased the man
through the streets, got them, I want to say, man
handle them a little bit, got her bag back and
was like here you go, then went on his way,
and everyriend's like, that was Tom Hardy.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So I reckon, Like they filmed them doing that and
they put it in this movie. Yeah, like it would
have been like exact.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
He's out there fighting crime on the streets that show
like an actor who fights crime and oh my god,
and it's Tom Hardy's real life story.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
WHOA And then what happens?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Then he crosses the wrong criminal anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Havoc is like crazy, crazy actioning, a bit gruesome but
not too much.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
But it's like, well, you don't like super super gruesome
stuff like.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah about all the time, but I like I like
guns the Blaze, Yeah, kind of like strong, like these
actionally strong men who've been in the industry for a
really long time, like Expendables, best movie of all time.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You always wonder if i'd anyone asks me what's Emily's
favorite movies? I would say all male casts. You do
just like the ladies in there. Lots of action, lots
of action, but no one really gets too hurt or
dies too badly.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
If you have a fifteen year old son, what if
he likes I like.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, and then also people become friends at the end.
I feel like you like actually like Teams of Men, yeah,
which was like this was a risk for me because
it's just Tom Hardy solo kind of like taking like
a Liam Nielsen. He's going for that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But I prefer teams of men. But this is still
really good.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Okay, Well it's good that you're branching out from teams
of men to one man. Anyway, Having on Netflix recommendation,
you did a really good job of.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Explaining that I'm sorry if this movie is so different
to what what I just said. It's a rock comment.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Everyone's like, it's actually a political thriller. One of the
reasons why I was very, very nervous to watch this
new series, which came out on Prime video last night,
is because it was made by one of my favorite
TV creators of all time. Do you know the name
Amy Sherman Palladino, maybe in old little show called Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, I love Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yes, obviously you have a soul. Yes, I love. She
is the creator, writer, director, executive producer, everything of Gilmore Girls.
She out of the idea with sitting in a little
in Connecticut and wrote it on a napkin what it
was going to be, and then she.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Shaped stuff on napkin.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Well, she's what she had a brainwave about, like a
young mother living in a small Connecticut town and all
these different characters and her rich family. She had to
get that shit down all she has a napkin.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Oh my god. I feel like this is a common
theme with like great artists. It's like always writing a
first idea down on napkin and then they frame it
for like generations.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, I don't know what that napkin is, but I
would sell my soul for it anyway. Amy sham and Palladino,
the creator Gilmore Girls, also the creator of another one
of my favorite TV shows of all time, and, in
my opinion, but also other critics' opinion, one of the
best TV shows of all time, The MARVELOUSNESSUS Maisel. Yes, yeah,
you've watched it. Yes, amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So my mom got me into that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, because your mom has excellent taste. Every time we
talk about a very similar yes, and I don't find that.
I find that great.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Actually that's better than having taste like me.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yes. Everything Amy and Shaman Perladino does is very light
on like big casts of men. It's usually about women,
you know, and these like quick and always like these big,
sprawling casts of characters. And she's also really well known
for her dialogue. It's always so sharp, so fast, lots
of pop culture references. That's something that you can see
in Gilmore Girls and also in The Marvelessness Is Maisl.
The pace is really yeah, the pain and she's so
(16:56):
particular about it, and you can kind of see when
she takes her hands off a show because she very
infamously left Gilmore Girls in the final seasons there was
like a thing with a network, and so a lot
of people when they talk about not loving the last
season of Gilmore Girls, it's kind of just because Amy
Palladino and Dan Palladino, her husband, who works on everything
with her, if their creative force wasn't there, then they
came out and made Gilmore Girls A Year in the Life.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Which was actually really good.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, I stand by that. A lot of people hate it.
I don't. She also made the short lived show butN
Heads with Sutton Foster. Have you.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, I've heard of it, but.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's on Disney Plus. You should absolutely watch it and
it's got Kelly Bishop who wears Emily Gilmore and Gilmore Girls. Anyway,
this woman has created this whole TV universe that's just
so incredible. So when I found out that she had
a new show coming out, I was excited and nervous.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Okay, the name of the show.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
And before I say the name of the show, can
I just say, do not message me and say I
pronounced it wrong. Oh no, you know why I pronounced
it wrong because I don't speak French. Oh it's a
French show. Yeah, well it's got a French name. Oh okay,
and so my North Queensland accents really going to come here.
The show is called Etoit. So we've been saying the
office because we're all obsessed with this show obviously because
we're all Amy Showman Palladino girls, and we were talking
(18:05):
about how to say it properly and the Natara, one
of our writers, like you just to say it with confidence.
So that's what I'm going to do. So the show
is called Etoi. It's about thank you. That's the last
time I said. It's about these two different ballet companies
and the drama that happens. So it's like a ballet
drama d which are ballet off yes, exactly, so, which
is interesting because Bunheads was also a ballet show, but
(18:25):
that was very much more like her. Is she a
ballet loose? I think she likes a bit of ballet anyhow,
and Palladinoor, I don't think it's a ballet dancer.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
But maybe she was just like you know, when you
just get like a fixation on one.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Probably she's like a small town drama New York comedy scene.
Ballet in her areas of interest. So you have Jack,
who is the executive director of the Metropolitan Ballet Theater
in New York City is one of the main characters,
and then Genevieve, who is the interim director of La
Ballet Nationale in the Paris. So you have these two
(18:57):
iconic ballet institutions who are both really struggling that both
of their new seasons have flopped. They can't get people
in to see their companies. Basically, ballet is going to
die forever. The stakes are high. No more Balerie, but
I loved some one, like, well, people aren't buying tickets
to the ballet in this world. So what they do
is they get together, and they also have a bit
of an interesting past. Jack and Genevieve have a romantic
(19:20):
past and very very flirting. Now this whole kind of
thing between them. They decide to have this one year
experiment where they trade some of their dancers. So then
you have the show going back and forth between Paris
New York as you bring like different dancers into companies,
and then it's kind of almost like Center Stage s
you know, the iconic early two thousands movie where you
have all of these incredible and this is what Amy
(19:40):
Shaman Paladina does really well is doing a big cast
of characters and the way they all bounce off each
other because obviously you have these two ballet companies like
desperately trying to stay afloat, and then you have like
you know, the prima donna ballerinas and the new ballerines
coming in, plus all the people who were like involved
in the ballet, and it's almost like this fish out
of water because they swapped the primo dancers around and
it's this whole kind of thing. So we've got and
(20:01):
they're all looking up with each other too.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Whoa sexy?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So you've got ballet, drama, ballet sex, you know, and
it looks beautiful, like it just like every Amy show
and Palladino show just looks you know, Gilmore Girls is
just like this fan color and everything's so gorgeous and
like the set dressing is incredible, and then the marvelous
miness is Maizel. Sometimes I just think that show can't
be real. It is the most beautiful.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
It feels like like just like a stage production, yes exactly.
It feels like this big theatrical production that's on here.
Streen and that's what feels like watching. Also, there's lots
of characters in there who well, the cast is incredible.
First of all, Charlotte Gainsborough plays Genevieve. She's a very
famous French and English actress and she usually does a
lot more when you've seen her in like really dramatic,
(20:43):
gritty roles, so watching her in something that's both a
drama and a comedy is really amazing. And then Luke
Kirby is in it as well, so he plays Jack,
one of the leaves. So he's Lenny Bruce from The
Marvelous Missus Maize. Oh my god, yeah, you know that
the other comic helps me Geelong.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
They hook up and.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Now he's in this show.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yes, and he's one of the leads in this show.
So if you like love the Marvelessess is Mazel and
you loved Lenny Bruce from that, he's in this. And
then the other thing that made me realize happy is
that Yannick Trusdelle, who played Michelle Gerard in Gilmore Girls,
as in like Michelle, why I'm not even saying who
he is? People know, like you guys, don't you've watched
Gilmore Girls, plays Rafael and just watching him back on
(21:22):
screen in an Amy Sherman Palladino show, like, I literally, wait.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Does this I get first gig since Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
No, he's done other stuff, but this is kind of,
like I guess, one of his really big acting roles.
And because he's coming back into the Amy Sherman Palladino universe,
it's such a big deal. So I got like really
like emotional when he came on stage.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It's just so cute.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
So there's eight episodes. It's really beautiful, good. Don't watch
it if you're like looking for another Gilmore Girls or
another it's definitely more masl esque, but it's also its
own show. I guess, like it's just an entertaining show.
It looks beautiful, it's interesting. It's not going to reach
the heights of Gilmore Girls a Mazel, I don't think.
But also like that's really yeah, you know what I mean.
That's a really high start. So and it does get
(22:05):
a little kind of uneven towards the end a little bit,
but it starts off really strong, and I just think, like,
sit down and give it a chance and just let
yourself get immersed in this world, because it's really interesting.
Don't be looking at your phone. You've got to be
a thing about an Amy showman paladine. I'm sure you've
got to be taking playing attention to a dialogue.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Move so fast.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It moved so fast, the jokes, the references, the like
little quips between the characters, like there's so Mantle one
las one where like this one Ballerina hooks up with
someone on a couch and she was like, but she listened, queens,
I wasn't going there, so we sucked on the couch. Like.
It's just so fast paced. So it's at et spelt.
I'll just spell that in case anyone's looking right on
Prime video. E t oh, I l e on Prime video.
(22:45):
Eight episodes. I'd love you to watch it and just
kind of get your vibeline. A little recap, maybe little recap.
I love to know how you explained the poor back
to me.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
The Spill is produced by Amy Kimball, with sound production
by Scott's Tronnik. And we will see you soon.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Bye bye. M
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