August 21, 2025 • 17 mins
This week, we’ve got a harrowing real life story that will have you questioning everything, plus a lavish period drama full of romance, betrayal and deliciously dark secrets.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on from MoMA Mia. Welcome
to the Spill your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm Laura Brodnick,
and today we are joined by a very special guest,
Tina Burke. Now, Tina burg I'm gonna let you say
(00:35):
your own title, because it has come to my attention
that you've been complaining around the office that every time
you come on this podcast, I introduce you with a
different title. So what would you like to be called today?
I'd like to quickly rebuff that because I have certainly
not been complaining. There was just a lot of multipod confusion. Yeah,
my title is pop Culture and Social Editor. Okay, love
(00:56):
that for you. Love You are my manager. We've confirmed
this on the podcast. Don't say my manager on here.
People just think I'm cool and young and I don't
have any responsibility. She's my inspiration for living. What can
I say about Laura Brodneck. So Teenery is here for
Weekend Watch, which is a good episode for you to
be on because it is one of our favorite the
week because it is the episode where we talk about
the best new TV shows and movies that have been
(01:18):
released this week, except not in your case today, because
for this guest appearance, I asked you, what is the
show that you've been obsessed with that you want to
tell the spillers about, and it is a show we
actually haven't talked about, so I gave special permission for
it to be on this week. Also given the fact
that your other timely recommendation was The Princess Bride, which
I do believe came out over thirty years ago. Yeah,
(01:39):
I really genuinely and very seriously turned to Laura the
other day and she was like, what are your plans?
And I was like, I'm going to watch The Princess Bride?
And I think she thought I meant I would rewatch it,
and I was like, no, for the first time ever, which,
if you know anything about me, shot Corror, I love Whimsy.
How have I not seen this film? And what did
you think of it? I loved it so much? That
is the correct I have to say. The reason I
hadn't watched it as an adult was that I was
scared I wouldn't like it because it's very childish, right,
(02:02):
like it's very like fantastical and whimsy. Family moved, and
I was worried that if I watched it as an adult,
I wouldn't see how great it was. But I did
know big smiles all around. So I was like, Laura,
if you're going to make me do week and watch,
I'm going to talk about the Princess Bride. The only
reason I vetoed that is your only response is because
we talk about the Princess Bride so much on this podcast,
even though it came out well over thirty years ago.
(02:23):
I was like, it's actually a timely recommendation for us.
And the spillers have all watched it. Where did you
watch it? If people have, I watched it on stand? Okay, yes,
So for the five people out there, for the people
who have not liked me, who were just like, oh
well I like it or not like I do all
the references I love carry always he's like so hot
and beautiful, love him dearly. And I was just scared.
But if you haven't seen it, I'm here to say,
(02:43):
check it out. The Princess Briane love a timely recommendation
about it. Okay, So what is the new TV show
that you are recommending for the people this week, So
I am breaking the rules. And I do know the
rules of a weekend watch and take them very seriously. However,
have a very controversial opinion, which is that I love
to binge watch. Don't bring that in, Jean here, I
apologize I do, and so it means that sometimes, like
(03:04):
I'll hold on to things. So I have just finished
season two of The Buccaneers on Apple TV, and it
is fantastic series, and I'm here to recommend it. And look,
I did say that was okay and make myself still
like a tyrant, like, well, if the shoe fits, if
the long pointed shoe fits, lace that up a run.
But as I said to you, I know there's a
(03:24):
lot of people out there who don't like to watch
things weekly as I recommend people do. A lot of
people like to save shows until they're finished. They can
sit down and watch it all in one go and
enjoy it, which is what you're thinking people can do
with The Buccaneers. Yes, so, if you don't know, it
is based on a novel by Edith Wharton. The novel
was actually never finished, so it ended up getting finished
kind of by the outline that she had planned out.
(03:47):
So if you do know anything about it, there was
a nineteen ninety five mini series. I did not know that, Yes,
and it had like like mini Severira was in it.
There was a pod cast in it.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, it's really good. It's very fun, very mini series,
very like true to I guess the era. Whereas what
Apple TV did in twenty twenty three was they brought
the Buccaneers back with like a very of the moment adaptation,
which means, you know, instead of like classic music, that's
pop music, outfits that are not time appropriate, silliness all away.
But I see a lot of face glitter in I
haven't watch this show, by the way, but I see
(04:16):
a lot of face glitter. I see a lot of
hair adornments. I see a lot of sexy outfits, a
lot of sexy outfits, like in one episode in season two,
she weren't off the shoulder red gown. You know what,
You watch this and it's just like you're just living
in a fantasy, and that's that's exactly what I want
from a TV show at the moment. So I love that.
And I kind of think if you're interperior dramas and
you watch it simultaneously with the Gilded Age, because they
were both dropping around the same time, like one's real
(04:39):
one's not. And that's okay, that's exactly historical accuracy. Be damned.
I want it off the shoulder gown. I want to
play a shoulder gown and I want yeah, I want
the girls to be wearing sparkly eyeshadow, face glitter and
sometimes even hair glitter, and sometimes maybe Chapel Roone should
play Yeah, yes, exactly. I think the women would have
love Chapel Rome going out on the limb to say that,
I think they would have. So, if you're not familiar
with the show, what it is is about a bunch
(05:00):
of American women who go over to the UK to
find husbands when one of their friends has fallen in
love with, you know, a fancy British man. So they're
sort of American women who are part of like that
nouveau class like so everyone in Britain looks down on
them because they're American and their crass and they're new money,
but they actually have money. A lot of these British
like people with titles do not have money. Yes, So
it's a very like there's a lot of exploration of
(05:22):
class in society, but it is about the girls coming
over to try to also enter society and find husbands,
and what ensues is a lot of chaos. So there
is a love triangle, which we love. We love to
see a love triangle. There's a love triangle between the
main character, Nan and her two love interests, the owned
guy that's the center of the story, but all of
the friends have their own sort of emotional arcs. There
(05:43):
are some quite serious themes, so at times it does
go into assault, manipulation. There are some marriages that have
domestic violence. There are other marriages that are you know,
marriages of convenience. There is a lesbian plot, which very
exciting for you know, a period drama to feature. That
is what is making me want to watch the show
because there's a transactress who is on has been a
(06:05):
few TV shows I choose right, Yeah, fantastic, and her
romantic interest is actually Kate Winslet's staughter Off Yeah, I
saw that to me is fantastic, and like she's so
much like her mother. So there's all of these great
bits like where you just notice Kate Winslet's mannerisms coming through.
But it's very much just about like the romantic market
and being a woman in this time, but kind of
set in a modern way. There's not a lot that
I can say about season two for you guys right now,
(06:27):
because if you haven't seen season one, it would just
spoil everything for you. I will say season one was
it came out in twenty twenty three. Season two has
come out in twenty twenty five, and they do feel
like tonally different shows a little bit, right, Like. I
loved Season two still, but it did feel at times
like you were like, what's going on? Right? Okay? So
I will just say that twenty spillers who haven't seen it,
(06:48):
season one feels much more intentional and complete in season two.
I'm not sure if they were worried about cancelation or
if they just wanted to really speed things along, But
there was so much packed into season two that at
times it felt a little bit like in an old
school world where we knew we were getting ten seasons,
these plots would have taken place over like years, and
instead we've shoved every plot you could into season two.
But I think if you go in knowing, it's just
(07:09):
like a light had a bit of fun bit of sexiness.
You'll have a good time. Okay. All right, Well you've
saw me on watching it Apple TV, right, Apple TV
check it out? Okay, Well, I have stuck to the
rules this week making myself sound so fun. I saw
im fun at parties. Just I love you a lot,
Thank you, you like you're my boss, and I like
(07:30):
you a lot. I made you so just and a
nice person. Hey, let's just talk about me for the
rest of the ging, not about any TV shows. Okay,
We'll going from that to a show about some very
serious topics. So a new drama that has just dropped
on Disney Plus this week. It's called The Twisted Tale
of Amanda Knox. I'm sure many people know the story
of Amanda Knox, who is an American student who went
(07:51):
over to study in Italy and was then tried for
the murder of her roommate, Meredith Kirscher. There's been so
much coverage around this since the event happened many many
years ago. There's been books written about it, there's been documentaries,
there's been podcasts. Amandannox herself has been speaking about it
for years and what it was like coming back to
the US and rebuilding her life and everything she's been
(08:12):
through since then.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Don't move, don't make a sound, Amanda.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't like this. She just turned back. Why would
I return to a country where I was convicted of murder?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Because in order to move forward, I need to go back.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
In two thousand and seven, I was halfway around the world,
studying abroad in Italy. I had no idea that my dream, Hello,
anybody home was about to become a nightmare. Meredith, Oh
my god, there's a body. It's Meredith.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Where did you go the night of merediths murder?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Do I need a lawyer right now?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Please?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So this is a dramatization of her story, and it
stars Grace Van Patten as Amanda and Oxen kind of
takes you through from the events when the death occurs,
through the trial, through like the public scrutiny of it.
It is a really interesting dramatization, especially if anyone who's
not across the case and the story watching it, like
it's kind of a good entry point into the story.
(09:21):
I will just say that, Like, there's always been a
lot of back and forth around Amanda Knox and like
around how she behaved at the time. Some people thought
she wasn't acting appropriately and some people thought that she
was guilty, and there's all these questions around it. So
I will just say that Amanda Knox is very heavily
involved in this series. She is an executive producer. All
the photos of like Grace Van Patten on the Red Carpet,
(09:42):
she's with Amanda Knox. So you've just got to watch
it from the point of view that yes, it's a dramatization,
but it is being told from Amanda Knox's perspective, with
her input and with her kind of shaping the story.
So if you just have that in mind, it's an
interesting watch. So the first two episodes have dropped now
on Disney Plus and then new episodes will drop weekly.
So if you kind of love a bit of true
crime with a bit of dramatization around it, and if
(10:05):
you ask someone who's into true crime through an entertainment lens,
we do have a little special something around the show
coming up when it ends. Won't say anything more about
that now, but yes, the Twister Tail of Amanda Knox
on Disney Plus now. So our other recommendation for this
week is a movie that we have been talking about
for months we've been talking about the stars. It's kind
(10:26):
of set to be the biggest comedy of the year.
Now I haven't seen it, and you haven't seen it.
That's a bit of a miss on our part. That's
a really upsetting miss on our part. I was so
excited to see it and I will be front seat
in the center. Actually that's my back seat in the cinema. Yeah,
I'm not front seats. Sorry, what did you walk in late?
Couldn't find a seat? That's terrible. Just but also make
sure to go front seat and imax. No, so we
haven't seen it, but the executive producer of The Spill, Manisha,
(10:50):
has seen it. She went to the premiere. She had
a fun time, and she's here to give us her
honest review. Mania I am.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I did go to the premiere. I did have a
fun time.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
There were hot dogs, But I love it was your
main takeaway from that event. That's important. That's nice, so important.
They can make or break a premiere the.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Hot dogs where you could control the sauce aday you know,
stage cinema snacking.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I love that. That is so good. As I said, I
did want you to write a whole review or just
do a whole review on this podcast that's just about
the hot dogs. And at the end you say, well,
the naked guns out now, which we can still do
if you want, but we might circle back to it.
Go back. Once you kill a man for revenge, there's
not going back. A voice in your head saying over
(11:31):
and over that was awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Who are you, Dreven?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Detective Frank Treven?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Thanks at least one has always been the elite of
the elite, and you, Frank, are the best of the best.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I need this woman immediately. There are the lad mayor
please Christmas.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Over here, Lieutenant.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I think someone murdered my brother. I'll find them. This
is what I do.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So as you serve twenty years for man's laughter. You
mean manslaughter must have been quite a joke.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Do this by the book?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Why?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Who's going to arrest me?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Other cops?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Is she serious? Is he serious?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So naked Gun I will admit I haven't seen the
previous naked gun movies, potentially a big gap in my
culture knowledge. I have been told of people going, but
I did go with people who have seen it and
people who haven't seen it, and I feel like we
all equally had a good time, so I wouldn't say
you have to see them.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
They're calling it a legacy.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Sequel, so it's not like a remake, but it does
follow on the story and he's the son of the
original Frank Drebin And yeah, Liam Neeson Pammy Anderson. I
was very excited because of all the Red Carpet bars
that we've been covering.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Oh yeah, because people think that they are dating right
after all, but pray that they are. It's so we're
not sure they Yeah, they haven't said they're dating, but
they haven't said they're not dating. And they've been noodling
is the only word for it on Red Carpet But
that's so in keeping with like the vibe of Naked
Gun too. Yeah, what did you think watching them that
they're together? Did you get the vibe from screen give us.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Something going on? Like there's really great chemistry. I also
feel like they're fueling the rumors.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
But then also when people tell them about it, they're like,
I'm so disappointed.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I love when we keep rumors going on this podcast
or start them. So that's great exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I actually maybe because of coming off all that Red
Carpet bars, I thought it needed more Pammy Anderson.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I think this movie needed more. The moment she was
in were great.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Obviously, that love interest role was played by Priscilla Presley
in the original trilogy.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I thought she was great in it.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I really enjoyed it. I don't want to spoil too much.
There's a great singing bit that she's in. Yeah, she
really captured that kind of like old world style, but
then it was also contemporary.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So I really enjoyed her in it. But I think
she needed to be in it more.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, I wonder if they're like, because she's coming off
this buzz of like she's come back as now like
a proper actress, because for a long time she was
just seen as a pinup girl and a sex symbol.
She didn't get any work for many many years. And
then with the Last show Girl, which she probably should
have got an Oscar nomine four after watching that movie
was my thought on that. But she was seen for
the first time as a proper, critically acclaimed actress. And
(14:17):
then she's come into this like leading comedy role, which
is a really good like jumping point. It's like she
can now do comedy, she can do drama, she can
do everything.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Love that for her, and I think speaking of that,
it was so great seeing Liam Neeson in a comedy
role because I've seen him in so many serious things.
The comedy in this is so slapstick. It's so like
it's like a dad joke wrapped up into some movie
or it's an absurdist play that's it's like banana peel
humor physical comedy.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And it's so funny seeing him in a role like that.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
But I will say the silly goose factor is high,
Like you gotta be in a silly mood.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You've got to go with your silly friends.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, and you've got to be not like, oh, let
me follow this splot, You've got to like I'm going
to associate into this observer.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah. I love when Lee does comedy because he does
it like often, like when he's like in the Ted
movies or something like that, where he plays that stern
character we know from Taken, But as a comedy role, yeah,
Like Dairy Girls is one of my favorite because like, yeah, again,
he was playing someone super super serious in the most
ridiculous environment, and that's when I think he's a bit
of fun.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You love that guy.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
He's a funny guy. So for people who don't know anything,
what is the naked gun? What is the plot? In
like one or two sentences.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
It's potentially the hardest plot ever summarized, like, that's.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The worst thing you could ask. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I was a bit stress about you asking that, but
I didn't know generally enough.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
There's this device called the like plot device, so plot
device that goes missing, and basically there's a suspicious death
of an engineer and they're trying to piece it all together,
and the sister of the engineer, Pammy Anderson, she gets involved.
She obviously wants to get to the bottom of it,
so she comes on this journey with them. And one
thing that I will say stood out to me because
(15:53):
I know a little bit about the previous movies, even
not having seen them, but.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
This one, I feel like is for the girls.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
There's really interesting female centric pop culture references throughout, which
I don't believe played a big role in the previous ones.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I think they were a bit more matcho.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
So I don't want to spoil the references because I
think that's half the delight of seeing the movie, But
some of them you would really enjoy.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Laura and I think you would Okay, so you guys.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I know you woke, so okay, I love that. So
the naked gune in cinemas now don't sit in the
front row. But apart from that, go.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Get a hot dog, but get a hot dot hot dog.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Oh you did bring it back to the hot dog.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Love that circled back. Get your hot dog, get front row.
It came out yesterday, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Recommend Oh I can't wait to watch that. Well, thank
you so much for listening to the spill today and
this week you can get twenty percent off a Mama
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much to Tina, Entertainment editor and pop culture. Yeah no, no,
not at all, but I like it's my favorite thing.
(16:52):
Is like we change it every time and we have fun.
So will you be next week? I meant to say
social media and entertainment. It also like it all means
the same thing. I'm cool with it. I've just been informed.
Clean that up. Anyway, Thank you for joining us, and
you'll also be back this afternoon for a little special
something we're doing on this spill, So sorry say still,
don't say that and stay tuned. Also, don't forget to
(17:13):
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(17:34):
production by Scott Stronik. And we'll see you back here
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very very special episode of The Spill. Bye bye,
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on from MoMA Mia. Welcome
to the Spill your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm Laura Brodnick,
and today we are joined by a very special guest,
Tina Burke. Now, Tina burg I'm gonna let you say
(00:35):
your own title, because it has come to my attention
that you've been complaining around the office that every time
you come on this podcast, I introduce you with a
different title. So what would you like to be called today?
I'd like to quickly rebuff that because I have certainly
not been complaining. There was just a lot of multipod confusion. Yeah,
my title is pop Culture and Social Editor. Okay, love
(00:56):
that for you. Love You are my manager. We've confirmed
this on the podcast. Don't say my manager on here.
People just think I'm cool and young and I don't
have any responsibility. She's my inspiration for living. What can
I say about Laura Brodneck. So Teenery is here for
Weekend Watch, which is a good episode for you to
be on because it is one of our favorite the
week because it is the episode where we talk about
the best new TV shows and movies that have been
(01:18):
released this week, except not in your case today, because
for this guest appearance, I asked you, what is the
show that you've been obsessed with that you want to
tell the spillers about, and it is a show we
actually haven't talked about, so I gave special permission for
it to be on this week. Also given the fact
that your other timely recommendation was The Princess Bride, which
I do believe came out over thirty years ago. Yeah,
(01:39):
I really genuinely and very seriously turned to Laura the
other day and she was like, what are your plans?
And I was like, I'm going to watch The Princess Bride?
And I think she thought I meant I would rewatch it,
and I was like, no, for the first time ever, which,
if you know anything about me, shot Corror, I love Whimsy.
How have I not seen this film? And what did
you think of it? I loved it so much? That
is the correct I have to say. The reason I
hadn't watched it as an adult was that I was
scared I wouldn't like it because it's very childish, right,
(02:02):
like it's very like fantastical and whimsy. Family moved, and
I was worried that if I watched it as an adult,
I wouldn't see how great it was. But I did
know big smiles all around. So I was like, Laura,
if you're going to make me do week and watch,
I'm going to talk about the Princess Bride. The only
reason I vetoed that is your only response is because
we talk about the Princess Bride so much on this podcast,
even though it came out well over thirty years ago.
(02:23):
I was like, it's actually a timely recommendation for us.
And the spillers have all watched it. Where did you
watch it? If people have, I watched it on stand? Okay, yes,
So for the five people out there, for the people
who have not liked me, who were just like, oh
well I like it or not like I do all
the references I love carry always he's like so hot
and beautiful, love him dearly. And I was just scared.
But if you haven't seen it, I'm here to say,
(02:43):
check it out. The Princess Briane love a timely recommendation
about it. Okay, So what is the new TV show
that you are recommending for the people this week, So
I am breaking the rules. And I do know the
rules of a weekend watch and take them very seriously. However,
have a very controversial opinion, which is that I love
to binge watch. Don't bring that in, Jean here, I
apologize I do, and so it means that sometimes, like
(03:04):
I'll hold on to things. So I have just finished
season two of The Buccaneers on Apple TV, and it
is fantastic series, and I'm here to recommend it. And look,
I did say that was okay and make myself still
like a tyrant, like, well, if the shoe fits, if
the long pointed shoe fits, lace that up a run.
But as I said to you, I know there's a
(03:24):
lot of people out there who don't like to watch
things weekly as I recommend people do. A lot of
people like to save shows until they're finished. They can
sit down and watch it all in one go and
enjoy it, which is what you're thinking people can do
with The Buccaneers. Yes, so, if you don't know, it
is based on a novel by Edith Wharton. The novel
was actually never finished, so it ended up getting finished
kind of by the outline that she had planned out.
(03:47):
So if you do know anything about it, there was
a nineteen ninety five mini series. I did not know that, Yes,
and it had like like mini Severira was in it.
There was a pod cast in it.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, it's really good. It's very fun, very mini series,
very like true to I guess the era. Whereas what
Apple TV did in twenty twenty three was they brought
the Buccaneers back with like a very of the moment adaptation,
which means, you know, instead of like classic music, that's
pop music, outfits that are not time appropriate, silliness all away.
But I see a lot of face glitter in I
haven't watch this show, by the way, but I see
(04:16):
a lot of face glitter. I see a lot of
hair adornments. I see a lot of sexy outfits, a
lot of sexy outfits, like in one episode in season two,
she weren't off the shoulder red gown. You know what,
You watch this and it's just like you're just living
in a fantasy, and that's that's exactly what I want
from a TV show at the moment. So I love that.
And I kind of think if you're interperior dramas and
you watch it simultaneously with the Gilded Age, because they
were both dropping around the same time, like one's real
(04:39):
one's not. And that's okay, that's exactly historical accuracy. Be damned.
I want it off the shoulder gown. I want to
play a shoulder gown and I want yeah, I want
the girls to be wearing sparkly eyeshadow, face glitter and
sometimes even hair glitter, and sometimes maybe Chapel Roone should
play Yeah, yes, exactly. I think the women would have
love Chapel Rome going out on the limb to say that,
I think they would have. So, if you're not familiar
with the show, what it is is about a bunch
(05:00):
of American women who go over to the UK to
find husbands when one of their friends has fallen in
love with, you know, a fancy British man. So they're
sort of American women who are part of like that
nouveau class like so everyone in Britain looks down on
them because they're American and their crass and they're new money,
but they actually have money. A lot of these British
like people with titles do not have money. Yes, So
it's a very like there's a lot of exploration of
(05:22):
class in society, but it is about the girls coming
over to try to also enter society and find husbands,
and what ensues is a lot of chaos. So there
is a love triangle, which we love. We love to
see a love triangle. There's a love triangle between the
main character, Nan and her two love interests, the owned
guy that's the center of the story, but all of
the friends have their own sort of emotional arcs. There
(05:43):
are some quite serious themes, so at times it does
go into assault, manipulation. There are some marriages that have
domestic violence. There are other marriages that are you know,
marriages of convenience. There is a lesbian plot, which very
exciting for you know, a period drama to feature. That
is what is making me want to watch the show
because there's a transactress who is on has been a
(06:05):
few TV shows I choose right, Yeah, fantastic, and her
romantic interest is actually Kate Winslet's staughter Off Yeah, I
saw that to me is fantastic, and like she's so
much like her mother. So there's all of these great
bits like where you just notice Kate Winslet's mannerisms coming through.
But it's very much just about like the romantic market
and being a woman in this time, but kind of
set in a modern way. There's not a lot that
I can say about season two for you guys right now,
(06:27):
because if you haven't seen season one, it would just
spoil everything for you. I will say season one was
it came out in twenty twenty three. Season two has
come out in twenty twenty five, and they do feel
like tonally different shows a little bit, right, Like. I
loved Season two still, but it did feel at times
like you were like, what's going on? Right? Okay? So
I will just say that twenty spillers who haven't seen it,
(06:48):
season one feels much more intentional and complete in season two.
I'm not sure if they were worried about cancelation or
if they just wanted to really speed things along, But
there was so much packed into season two that at
times it felt a little bit like in an old
school world where we knew we were getting ten seasons,
these plots would have taken place over like years, and
instead we've shoved every plot you could into season two.
But I think if you go in knowing, it's just
(07:09):
like a light had a bit of fun bit of sexiness.
You'll have a good time. Okay. All right, Well you've
saw me on watching it Apple TV, right, Apple TV
check it out? Okay, Well, I have stuck to the
rules this week making myself sound so fun. I saw
im fun at parties. Just I love you a lot,
Thank you, you like you're my boss, and I like
(07:30):
you a lot. I made you so just and a
nice person. Hey, let's just talk about me for the
rest of the ging, not about any TV shows. Okay,
We'll going from that to a show about some very
serious topics. So a new drama that has just dropped
on Disney Plus this week. It's called The Twisted Tale
of Amanda Knox. I'm sure many people know the story
of Amanda Knox, who is an American student who went
(07:51):
over to study in Italy and was then tried for
the murder of her roommate, Meredith Kirscher. There's been so
much coverage around this since the event happened many many
years ago. There's been books written about it, there's been documentaries,
there's been podcasts. Amandannox herself has been speaking about it
for years and what it was like coming back to
the US and rebuilding her life and everything she's been
(08:12):
through since then.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Don't move, don't make a sound, Amanda.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't like this. She just turned back. Why would
I return to a country where I was convicted of murder?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Because in order to move forward, I need to go back.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
In two thousand and seven, I was halfway around the world,
studying abroad in Italy. I had no idea that my dream, Hello,
anybody home was about to become a nightmare. Meredith, Oh
my god, there's a body. It's Meredith.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Where did you go the night of merediths murder?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Do I need a lawyer right now?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Please?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So this is a dramatization of her story, and it
stars Grace Van Patten as Amanda and Oxen kind of
takes you through from the events when the death occurs,
through the trial, through like the public scrutiny of it.
It is a really interesting dramatization, especially if anyone who's
not across the case and the story watching it, like
it's kind of a good entry point into the story.
(09:21):
I will just say that, Like, there's always been a
lot of back and forth around Amanda Knox and like
around how she behaved at the time. Some people thought
she wasn't acting appropriately and some people thought that she
was guilty, and there's all these questions around it. So
I will just say that Amanda Knox is very heavily
involved in this series. She is an executive producer. All
the photos of like Grace Van Patten on the Red Carpet,
(09:42):
she's with Amanda Knox. So you've just got to watch
it from the point of view that yes, it's a dramatization,
but it is being told from Amanda Knox's perspective, with
her input and with her kind of shaping the story.
So if you just have that in mind, it's an
interesting watch. So the first two episodes have dropped now
on Disney Plus and then new episodes will drop weekly.
So if you kind of love a bit of true
crime with a bit of dramatization around it, and if
(10:05):
you ask someone who's into true crime through an entertainment lens,
we do have a little special something around the show
coming up when it ends. Won't say anything more about
that now, but yes, the Twister Tail of Amanda Knox
on Disney Plus now. So our other recommendation for this
week is a movie that we have been talking about
for months we've been talking about the stars. It's kind
(10:26):
of set to be the biggest comedy of the year.
Now I haven't seen it, and you haven't seen it.
That's a bit of a miss on our part. That's
a really upsetting miss on our part. I was so
excited to see it and I will be front seat
in the center. Actually that's my back seat in the cinema. Yeah,
I'm not front seats. Sorry, what did you walk in late?
Couldn't find a seat? That's terrible. Just but also make
sure to go front seat and imax. No, so we
haven't seen it, but the executive producer of The Spill, Manisha,
(10:50):
has seen it. She went to the premiere. She had
a fun time, and she's here to give us her
honest review. Mania I am.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I did go to the premiere. I did have a
fun time.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
There were hot dogs, But I love it was your
main takeaway from that event. That's important. That's nice, so important.
They can make or break a premiere the.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Hot dogs where you could control the sauce aday you know,
stage cinema snacking.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I love that. That is so good. As I said, I
did want you to write a whole review or just
do a whole review on this podcast that's just about
the hot dogs. And at the end you say, well,
the naked guns out now, which we can still do
if you want, but we might circle back to it.
Go back. Once you kill a man for revenge, there's
not going back. A voice in your head saying over
(11:31):
and over that was awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Who are you, Dreven?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Detective Frank Treven?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Thanks at least one has always been the elite of
the elite, and you, Frank, are the best of the best.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I need this woman immediately. There are the lad mayor
please Christmas.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Over here, Lieutenant.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I think someone murdered my brother. I'll find them. This
is what I do.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So as you serve twenty years for man's laughter. You
mean manslaughter must have been quite a joke.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Do this by the book?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Why?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Who's going to arrest me?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Other cops?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Is she serious? Is he serious?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So naked Gun I will admit I haven't seen the
previous naked gun movies, potentially a big gap in my
culture knowledge. I have been told of people going, but
I did go with people who have seen it and
people who haven't seen it, and I feel like we
all equally had a good time, so I wouldn't say
you have to see them.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
They're calling it a legacy.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Sequel, so it's not like a remake, but it does
follow on the story and he's the son of the
original Frank Drebin And yeah, Liam Neeson Pammy Anderson. I
was very excited because of all the Red Carpet bars
that we've been covering.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Oh yeah, because people think that they are dating right
after all, but pray that they are. It's so we're
not sure they Yeah, they haven't said they're dating, but
they haven't said they're not dating. And they've been noodling
is the only word for it on Red Carpet But
that's so in keeping with like the vibe of Naked
Gun too. Yeah, what did you think watching them that
they're together? Did you get the vibe from screen give us.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Something going on? Like there's really great chemistry. I also
feel like they're fueling the rumors.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
But then also when people tell them about it, they're like,
I'm so disappointed.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I love when we keep rumors going on this podcast
or start them. So that's great exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I actually maybe because of coming off all that Red
Carpet bars, I thought it needed more Pammy Anderson.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I think this movie needed more. The moment she was
in were great.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Obviously, that love interest role was played by Priscilla Presley
in the original trilogy.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I thought she was great in it.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I really enjoyed it. I don't want to spoil too much.
There's a great singing bit that she's in. Yeah, she
really captured that kind of like old world style, but
then it was also contemporary.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So I really enjoyed her in it. But I think
she needed to be in it more.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, I wonder if they're like, because she's coming off
this buzz of like she's come back as now like
a proper actress, because for a long time she was
just seen as a pinup girl and a sex symbol.
She didn't get any work for many many years. And
then with the Last show Girl, which she probably should
have got an Oscar nomine four after watching that movie
was my thought on that. But she was seen for
the first time as a proper, critically acclaimed actress. And
(14:17):
then she's come into this like leading comedy role, which
is a really good like jumping point. It's like she
can now do comedy, she can do drama, she can
do everything.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Love that for her, and I think speaking of that,
it was so great seeing Liam Neeson in a comedy
role because I've seen him in so many serious things.
The comedy in this is so slapstick. It's so like
it's like a dad joke wrapped up into some movie
or it's an absurdist play that's it's like banana peel
humor physical comedy.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And it's so funny seeing him in a role like that.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
But I will say the silly goose factor is high,
Like you gotta be in a silly mood.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You've got to go with your silly friends.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, and you've got to be not like, oh, let
me follow this splot, You've got to like I'm going
to associate into this observer.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah. I love when Lee does comedy because he does
it like often, like when he's like in the Ted
movies or something like that, where he plays that stern
character we know from Taken, But as a comedy role, yeah,
Like Dairy Girls is one of my favorite because like, yeah, again,
he was playing someone super super serious in the most
ridiculous environment, and that's when I think he's a bit
of fun.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You love that guy.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
He's a funny guy. So for people who don't know anything,
what is the naked gun? What is the plot? In
like one or two sentences.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
It's potentially the hardest plot ever summarized, like, that's.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The worst thing you could ask. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I was a bit stress about you asking that, but
I didn't know generally enough.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
There's this device called the like plot device, so plot
device that goes missing, and basically there's a suspicious death
of an engineer and they're trying to piece it all together,
and the sister of the engineer, Pammy Anderson, she gets involved.
She obviously wants to get to the bottom of it,
so she comes on this journey with them. And one
thing that I will say stood out to me because
(15:53):
I know a little bit about the previous movies, even
not having seen them, but.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
This one, I feel like is for the girls.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
There's really interesting female centric pop culture references throughout, which
I don't believe played a big role in the previous ones.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I think they were a bit more matcho.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
So I don't want to spoil the references because I
think that's half the delight of seeing the movie, But
some of them you would really enjoy.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Laura and I think you would Okay, so you guys.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I know you woke, so okay, I love that. So
the naked gune in cinemas now don't sit in the
front row. But apart from that, go.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Get a hot dog, but get a hot dot hot dog.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Oh you did bring it back to the hot dog.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Love that circled back. Get your hot dog, get front row.
It came out yesterday, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Recommend Oh I can't wait to watch that. Well, thank
you so much for listening to the spill today and
this week you can get twenty percent off a Mama
Mere subscription and Mama Mea will match that twenty percent
and donate it to Rise Up, a charity supporting women
and families affected by domestic violence. And thank you so
much to Tina, Entertainment editor and pop culture. Yeah no, no,
not at all, but I like it's my favorite thing.
(16:52):
Is like we change it every time and we have fun.
So will you be next week? I meant to say
social media and entertainment. It also like it all means
the same thing. I'm cool with it. I've just been informed.
Clean that up. Anyway, Thank you for joining us, and
you'll also be back this afternoon for a little special
something we're doing on this spill, So sorry say still,
don't say that and stay tuned. Also, don't forget to
(17:13):
follow the Spill on Instagram and TikTok. They're so great
because Tina makes them that way and puts up all
the juice and sex floge us see it all by
the scenes, good time, Yeah, behind the scenes so many
you love hot people and that's what we see on
the Steel Instagram. Yeah, love that. And The Spill is
produced by minsha Isswarren who also thank you for being
a film critic today. Love that for you with suand
(17:34):
production by Scott Stronik. And we'll see you back here
on your podcast feed at three pm for a very
very very special episode of The Spill. Bye bye,
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