Welcome to Weekend Watch! Where we recommend the shows and movies we can’t get enough of this week.
First up, Mixtape is a nostalgic new Binge drama about first love, second chances, and a song that brings two people back together after decades apart.
Then there’s Materialists, the sexy, stylish new film everyone in the Mamamia office is buzzing about. It’s not quite a rom-com, but it’s romantic, dramatic, and full of chaotic energy. Think high fashion, complicated relationships, and more than a few steamy moments.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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is recorded on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spell, your daily pop
culture fix.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brodney, and it is
our weekend watch episode.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yes, our special episode that we release every Friday morning
at six am. I don't know who's away, certainly not me, No,
I know people get up and live their lives. Must
be Nice where we release that episode with the best
new TV shows and movies that have just come out,
because we have a little sneak peak of everything before
it goes out to the masses. And I have been
dying to record this podcast with you.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I'm excited too because I feel like I've missed so
many movies and TV shows because I have been overseas.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Must be Nice.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
On holiday, I went to Vietnam and I was there
for shorter than the time it took to get there.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, this happens when you go over those weekend trips.
Like most it was on a plane, but still it was.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
A long weekend. But also like when you go on
a weekend. That's all my like TV movie times. Yeah,
so I actually haven't watched that much TV and movie
So you're literally taking the reins of this podcast for
this episode. But I am really really excited to get
back home and have my like little setup going.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Okay, So I have two recommendations. The first one is
for a new TV show that has just come out
this week on Binge and it's called mixtape.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Mixtape. Okay, that sounds funky.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
It is very funky. This is I was like, I'm
worried I sounded old, but then you said funky, and
then now you sound old. Okay, cut that out.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You never forget the boy who makes you your first mixtape.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It don't just up and leave on it's seventeen.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
We'll ship it by She's not coming back. My founder
on the first book.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We went together for decades.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You've never even mentioned. I said, ask her, what bloody happened?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's decades ago?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Are you and sick? It really doesn't matter how hard
I try, does it? I want? I guess the question
I should ask first is that do you know what
a mixtape is? And have you ever received a mixtape?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I've never received a mixtape. I feel like if I
received a mixtape.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
That would be extremely problematic because that person would be
much older than me.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Especially retro they've gone back the other way. I like
some how like some gen z now like buying the
old school knock your phone so that they can not
go online.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
A couple of full circle I spending a lot of
money out here is a mixtape? So is it like
an actual like cassette tape.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, that's the original. So it's like the cassette tape.
And the idea was that you would It's the kind
of thing that was like around a lot and like
rom coms and stuff, that you would make someone a
mixtape with songs that reminded them of you, all songs
you wanted to know.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Like a Spotify playlist.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, so the evolution is a mixtape and then a
mixed But how do you make one now on a
cassette player?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But how do you do it? Like how do you
put all the songs on it?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Oh? Well, I guess back in the day, you'd have
one of those like double cassette players where you put
a cassette tape and one a cassette tape in the
other and you can move it over. Whoa you have
to be listening to the radio. I just want everyone
to know that I wasn't alive for this, but I
watch a lot of movies, so I know this of
the art I'm really young is that you have to
be listening to the radio. Song came on the radio,
the cassette players in there, you have to go record
(03:34):
and then stop and then you just do that song, yeah,
and until you record it off the radio. And so
you had to be listening for your songs to come along.
And that means that also you'd have all of your
songs that you might have, like a bit of a
car At or something, Yeah in the middle that was
but Hear Me and Rhapsody, So you'd have those kind
of tapes around. I remember like my mom had tapes
of those that I like play as a kid, where
(03:55):
she taped it off the radio and then I want
to mix tape. Do you wan to make you a mixtage?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It sounds like a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It is because then it's very personal, because it's like
the songs that you pick up someone, it's like what
you want them to know. Like for you, I could
pick cute songs about friendship, but then if you want
to do it for a ball. You could pick songs
about like hidden love, whoa yeah, and it's a way
to say it without saying it. So you can make
a mixed CD and then I guess now you can
send someone a Spotify playlist.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It's quite a dangerous game.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
My ex made me a Spotify playlist and one of
the songs was how to Say I Love You Oh,
and then he break up at me after oh, and
I was like.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh, I feel It's just a real mixed message, a
mixtape message for sure. So this TV show is called Mixtape. Okay,
we're talking a dating podcast. It's four hours and it's
four episodes, so it's yeah, four hours long, roughly the
length of the intro we just gave it. And it's
on Binge and it's actually based on the acclaimed novel
(04:52):
by Jane Sanderson. It's got an incredible cast including Jim Sturgis,
Florence Hunt who a lot of people know from Bridgerton,
Ben Lawson, but also friend of the pod Teresa Palmer.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yay, yeah, is it an Australian.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's an Australian Irish production. So it follows two different
timeline and one of the Timelines is set in the
nineteen eighties where Alison and Dan meet as like very
love struck teenagers, and then there's also a timeline happening
in the future where it shows that Alison and Dan
played by Jim Sturgis and Teresa Palmer both went their
(05:26):
separate ways after they fell in love as teenagers, and
now they're both grown up and you know, they're married
to other people and have their whole other lives. And
Dan is a music journalist and Alison is a best
selling novel He lives in the UK, she lives in Australia.
And then in the first episode, Teresa Palmer's character is
doing an into about her new novel and they're asking
her about like when she lived in Sheffield that's when
(05:47):
she met him, and you can see that she's like
very kind of taken it back and doesn't want to
talk about what happened. And then as the series goes on,
you kind of find out what happened to her in
the past, what happened to their love story, how they
might reconnect as adults, all kind of brought together by music,
and it's really love. It sounds like one of those.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Like little love stories yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I mean, there's definitely some dark parts to it, but
it is one of those stories. It's just like a
romantic drama where it's just about like it's about the characters.
It's about the evolution of their story. Like there's no
huge scary plot twists or anything like that. It's just
a really beautiful watch, super critically acclaimed when it first
started getting shown at film festivals and events. It actually
won the TV Spotlight Audience Award at south By Southwest
(06:29):
this year. So it was like the one that everyone
was like, this is the show to watch, and yeah,
it's just really nice. I just had a lovely time.
I sat down and watched all four episodes back to back.
Well I and you know, I love to like set
the scene and I had my candles lit and I
had my fresh flowers and yeah, and I always love
watching Teresa Palmer. I find it's such an interesting actress.
So if you're on binge and you watch Mixtape, then
(06:51):
go and watch her other new show, The Last Anniversary,
that also came out of this year, because they're both
really good watches.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
She's been doing some great work.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, so both based on best selling novels. Both on binge. Okay,
onto the main event.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I'm jealous, sir.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well that's what you've me on holiday, isn't it. I'm
going to set the scene. Okay, So this week I
went to the preview of a movie which is Adam
Cinemas now that we have been waiting to see for
such a.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Long time, the whole country has been waiting to see.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, the promo has been very good. So it's called Materialists.
And the way you probably know it is that it's
been billed as this big new love triangle movie starring
Dakota Johnson, Chris Evans and Pedro Pascal. Hear him say
his name? That I hear me? So my name is
Michael Queen's Rodney. Hey are you single? I'm a matchmaker.
(07:44):
Give me a call if you want to meet somebody.
I deserve someone who fulfills all of my criteria, nothing
over twenty PM.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I don't want someone who likes cats.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm trying to settle. I promise you're going to marry
the love of your life. How many marriages are you
responsible born? Now? Lucy, you're a matchmaker. Do you want
to drink sure cocin?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Deer?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Anybody I'm John.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Definitely didn't expect about it to you today.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, we don't even remember my face, Lucy.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And the eternal Bachelora. You can do better than me
my instincts you usually right.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Wow, you know how to.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Do the math, don't you. You are what we call.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
A unicorn, an impossible fantasy. How much is this enmartment
twelve million?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I'm not gonna marry him, are you?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Guess he's good looking and rich.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
He probably doesn't have roomain when I see your face,
the seat mirinkles, and children that look like you.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
So where does that leave us?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
The marketing material for this, I should say, has been
incredible because you have that very iconic poster, which is
Pedron Chris flanking Dakota on either side. Pedro's wearing his
very fancy tucks, Chris Evans is wearing more of a
cat away to outfit, and Dakota Johnson is in that beautiful,
rich blue gown that's become sort of like the symbol
of the movie. And then the trailer came out, and
(09:31):
the trailer felt very kind of like old school early
two thousands rom com. Yeah, you know, like she's she's
just a girl living in New York City.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Do I choose this hot man or this hot rich man.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
She's waking up in her beautiful, big apartment. That is
always the biggest lie that I think romantic comedy has
told us. It wasn't about love, was about real estate.
Because I always thought I was going to have a
huge apartment in New York and I wouldn't have to
pay for it. That's a lie.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's a lie, Carrie Ratcher, I feel listener.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You lie from Baganda. So, Dakota Johnson plays a woman
named Lucy, and as I said, we're introduced to her.
She's like in her beautiful New York City apartment. She
puts on her gorgeous outfit and she's walking through New
York and then she sees a hot man and she
looks eyes with him and she says, hello, I'm a
matchmaker and we have so many matches for you, and
she hands him her business card and then she bops
back along the street and you learn that she is
(10:18):
a matchmaker at an agency called a Door. So do
you know how matchmakers actually know a lot of people
who have been married through matchmakers story? Yeah, it's a thing.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I thought it was like a fake job.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Oh my god, No, it's a huge hut.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Dating apps took that away from them.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
No, because matchmaking agencies it's very high end, super super expensive,
like not for people like us, train your savings, and
that's why it matches people who are like quite rich,
That's what it is. So it's cutting through like it's
for people who don't want to put themselves on dating apps,
Like they have a lot of money and they used
to paying professionals to fix problems for them. And that's
where the matchmaker comes in. So especially Lucy being a
(10:56):
matchmaker in New York in this movie, she's all about finding,
you know, a matches for people who are very specific
kind of needs and a lot of money to pay
her bills. So the movie starts with her.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Going to wait, how do I get this job?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
How do you become a Matchmaker'd I think if I think,
once you watch this movie, you might not want to
be a matchmaker anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Oh no, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Again, it's a noble job. And like I said, I
know people who are married from it. Sometimes that's just
what you do. Wow, the same way as using a
dating app. But I don't think it's not all ribbons
and love hearts. Oh so so it's a horror. It's well, no,
we just wait.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So Lucy is attending the wedding of one of her matches.
So she's matched nine couples and she's getting celebrated and
it's all lovely. And then she gets to the wedding
and she's drumming up business and all this stuff, and
then she gets seated next to the groom's brother, a
multi multi millionaire called Harry's Pedro Pascal.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And she chooses Pedro Pascal and they live happily ever after.
Would you believe she match make herself.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I'm not gonna say who she ends up with, because
that is.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
The Can I tell you my theory?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
My theory is is that she jumps between Chris Evans
and I don't know their names, Chris and Pedro, and
then they start getting really annoyed at her and they're like, hey,
you have to choose, you have to choose, and then
she's like, I don't want to choose, and then they're like,
will choose, and then they choose each other.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I mean, that's a great movie. I'm gonna go out
in the limit to say that's not what happened.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I imagine like Chris Evans and Pedro Pascal is a couple.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I mean I would see. So she meets Harry and
she's all wanting to like sign him up for her agency.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
This is where this movie really it does not look
like a Harry.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah. Well, Chris Evans's name in the movie is John,
and he doesn't like a John, that's true. And she
kind of looks like a loosey, so that one fled.
So she's trying to sign up for the dating agency
because he is what they call And this is where
the movie gets very into kind of like dating speak.
It almost feels like it's a better movie than this.
But he's just not that into you, you know how
they bring it that was basically, and that brings a
(12:59):
lot of like dating lingo and phrases or rules or
like urban legends into the store.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I can't call them after three days blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, this movie kind of weaves in a lot of
that sort of stuff. So Pedro Pascal's Harry is what
we call a unicorn because he's got a really good job,
he's rich, he's tall, he's single, and he's looking for
a woman to share his life with and as their meeting,
Chris Evans's character John appears at the table.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Oh and he's none away things.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, he's tall and handsome. Oh yeah, but he's in
his late thirties. He's an actor who's still trying to
break into the industry, and he's picking up shifts as
a caterwaiter just to earn a bit of money to
pay for the terrible room. He shares in a terrible
apartment with like three other gross men. And so he
appears at the tables as Harry always call in Pedro,
I maybe I should just do that. As Pedro verscal
(13:48):
is hitting on Dakota Johnson, Chris Evans appears at the
table with Dakota Johnson's signature drink. And that is because
they've had a very long relationship and they've broken up
and all this kind of thing. I won't go into it.
So then the movie is very much around this question
of like compatibility and why marriage is a contract, and
also this question I'm interested in your thought on this,
this question of his marriage is a contract. Do you
(14:10):
marry the rich man who makes you feel valuable, but
who you are, you don't have a spark with but
everything on paper is good. Or do you marry the
poor man who you have a spark with, but nothing
about it makes business sense because marriage is a contract.
Even if you're in love, you're still entering into a
business arrangement.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's such a good point.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
The movie wants you to tell.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Oh my God, and you want me to answer.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, Okay, so you're Lucy your Dakota Fanning Dakota Johnson.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'd love to be Fanning. Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Firstly, I would choose to marry the rich man.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Interesting. You know what, that's not a bad thing because,
as I say in the movie, he makes you feel valuable,
and valuable is a very important part of you feel
like a human and feeling like you matter.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Also, sparks die right and like, as you said, they
did break up for a reason.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
So here's the interesting thing about Materialists is that when
the movie poster came out, when the trailer came out
and we saw who the leads were, Dakota and Pedro
and Chris, everyone was like, Yes, this is the rom
com I've been waiting for. And to be fair, the
promo for the movie did make it look like a
rom com. It's like it's Dakota Johnson in the Big
City tour between these two handsome men, and she's gonna
(15:33):
fall madly in love with one of them. This movie
is not a rom com. Oh it's a romantic drama.
Oh it's not a rom com at all. Oh my god,
it's romantic drama and potentially and at some points it
feels like a horror movie. What if you're currently in
the dating pool, which you know, I know me too.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh my god, I like.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Can I tell you? I was so thrown and so
just in my head about this movie. As I left that,
I walked home, and when I got home, I'm like,
why am I my feet in pain? And why did
that take so long? Because I don't live that far
from the movies, as you know, And I had forgotten
to like take my heels off from the premiere and
put my walking shoes on, which I normally do. I
just stopped through the streets of Sydney late at night
(16:12):
in my heels and I didn't put my headphones in
to like listen to music or anything. I was so
like in my head about like what does this mean?
And what do I think? And what does that mean?
Like it really turns all these tough questions.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It just makeing like I'm so keen to watch it
because when I came into the office today, like so
many people here, Mum and Maya went to watch it,
and one of our entertainment writers, Tara Watson, I think
she said something similar to you. She was like to me,
She's like, it's going to make you spiral, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Like, okay, so this, yeah, the setup is really really good.
So you see Lucy to go to Johnson going and
meeting with all her different clients, both men and women,
and what they are saying they want in a relationship.
It's just so sobering of like, oh, there's no one
out there and I'm not anyone's ideal because my age
is wrong, my height is wrong, my face is wrong,
(16:58):
my personality is wrong. And this is so transactional and
like the older you get, especially as a woman, like
there's just no men out there for you to meet,
and if you're a different size, there's no man.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Out for me.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
And it's so bleak. Literally, in those first few minutes,
I had my two wines, as you know, I have
my popcorn, and I was all read. I was all
in for the movie, and I was sitting there and
my heart was beating so far because I was like,
this movie that musquraded it as a rom com is
throwing this huge spotlight over this idea that what your
(17:29):
worth is, what it means to find love? How much
of like a rat race it is, like it's the
Hunger Games, how much you only have a tiny window
to be someone's ideal, how transactional it is, and just
how bleak it'll be if you as to go to
Johnson case as the movie she's like it's this or
dialoge and you're like, yeah, I don't know, it's really
(17:50):
And the thing is, no one should have gone into
this thinking it was a rom com because despite some
of the marketing, because it's written directed by Selene's Song
an incredible filmmaker, one of my absolute favorite filmmakers at
the moment, Oscar nominated her first movie, Past Lives. Like
this made me feel a lot like watching Past Me.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I had a very similar the pace it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, just how like she's a and I should also.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Past Lives if we haven't watched it.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Incredible amazing, Oh should I say materialists incredible? I actually
loved it. I just it hit me really hard, but
it's meant to like it did its job exactly. Like again,
she's not trying to tell a frothy wrong com She's
trying to like get in your heart and soul in
your head with this storyline and these characters. Yeah, I
just I think going into it because Past Lives is
like her first film, and Materialist is on the same vein,
(18:37):
and like Selene's song was just never going to write
a wrong comp Yeah, but again, the post is so pretty,
it's so nice, So it's just, yeah, it's really interesting
of like you see her sort of like go between
these two men, but then there's also the clients that
she works with and like what's happening in their lives,
and it just really I don't know, it builds this
really interesting ending. I would say, go and see the movies.
(18:58):
Like obviously you can watch when it comes on streaming,
but I almost feel like it's a good one to
go and like really immerse yourself in. You could go
by yourself and just have like a solo movie date
and yeah, and just take it all in. But it's
also a really really good movie to like if you
can go and see with like a bunch of your
girlfriends and then don't all rush off go to drinks
or something afterwards, because you're just gonna want to like
(19:19):
dissect this movie like crazy, or I want to talk
about the ending so bad.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Okay, okay, without spoiling the ending, give me some adjectives
to describe your feelings.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, romantic okay, a cop out. No, that's my personal opinion, Okay.
And it's like hopeful and really sobering at the same time.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Interesting. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I think a lot of people have talked to us
loved or hated the ending. People are very intense about it.
When I say cop it, I just mean, like I
thought we weren't making a romcom Selene, but sometimes we
almost veer into making I just find it so interesting,
I know. I guess if enough people see it, if
enough spillers want to talk about it, we could do
a really honest review.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
So I think the ending of Past Lives just destroyed
everything destroyed.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, this is not quite that, but it really like
and the build up to it and everything, and it
just really makes you question love and romance and everything,
but also makes you want it even more. Yeahlleen, No, anyway, materialists,
it's out now. I mean, look, if you just love
(20:28):
Pedro Pascal and Chris Evans. Also, Chris Evans great actor.
People have been really shitting on him since he left
Marvel because after he left Marvel the Marvels Automatic Universe,
he and Robert Downey Junior and Scarlett Johansson all left
at the same time. Yeah, and Scarlett Johanson nominated for
two Oscars straight after directing her home movie critically acclaimed.
Robert Downey Junior won an Oscar critically acclaimed. Chris Evans
(20:52):
not doing well got married to a younger woman that
people got really angry about it only because his.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Ex is Jenny's Lay. Yeah, and we thought he was
a different kind of I'm just gonna saying, well.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Did we all did? Brother did a podcast the other day?
Were you telling me his brother did a podcast the
other day saying that Chris Evans couldn't find love for
so long because so many people shot it on him
for his girlfriends and then were mean to his girlfriends.
The man's been through a lost He went through so much.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It's hard being a really attractive white.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Man, being attractive white man. Someone give him a chance,
So Anyway, this is the first time after he's left
the Marvel cinematic universe that people like, oh, you're a
real actor. You're a good actor.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
He does really well, but he should also go back.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah. He hates people asking him that you could see
to see the Materialists premiere, Like he was asked, what
do you go back to Marvel? And his soul has
left his body.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
So it's like when you ask Robert Patterson about Twilight.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, so Materialists listening is now, go and see it
and then talk to us about it. And I guess
if enough people, I love to do a brilli honest review.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
If enough people see it, Oh my god, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Okay, anyway, a very love and drama filled episode of
Weekend Watch about two recommendations to day love is in
the air.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Both yours as a listener.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
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So you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spell, your daily pop
culture fix.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brodney, and it is
our weekend watch episode.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yes, our special episode that we release every Friday morning
at six am. I don't know who's away, certainly not me, No,
I know people get up and live their lives. Must
be Nice where we release that episode with the best
new TV shows and movies that have just come out,
because we have a little sneak peak of everything before
it goes out to the masses. And I have been
dying to record this podcast with you.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I'm excited too because I feel like I've missed so
many movies and TV shows because I have been overseas.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Must be Nice.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
On holiday, I went to Vietnam and I was there
for shorter than the time it took to get there.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, this happens when you go over those weekend trips.
Like most it was on a plane, but still it was.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
A long weekend. But also like when you go on
a weekend. That's all my like TV movie times. Yeah,
so I actually haven't watched that much TV and movie
So you're literally taking the reins of this podcast for
this episode. But I am really really excited to get
back home and have my like little setup going.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Okay, So I have two recommendations. The first one is
for a new TV show that has just come out
this week on Binge and it's called mixtape.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Mixtape. Okay, that sounds funky.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
It is very funky. This is I was like, I'm
worried I sounded old, but then you said funky, and
then now you sound old. Okay, cut that out.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You never forget the boy who makes you your first mixtape.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It don't just up and leave on it's seventeen.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
We'll ship it by She's not coming back. My founder
on the first book.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We went together for decades.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You've never even mentioned. I said, ask her, what bloody happened?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's decades ago?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Are you and sick? It really doesn't matter how hard
I try, does it? I want? I guess the question
I should ask first is that do you know what
a mixtape is? And have you ever received a mixtape?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I've never received a mixtape. I feel like if I
received a mixtape.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
That would be extremely problematic because that person would be
much older than me.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Especially retro they've gone back the other way. I like
some how like some gen z now like buying the
old school knock your phone so that they can not
go online.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
A couple of full circle I spending a lot of
money out here is a mixtape? So is it like
an actual like cassette tape.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, that's the original. So it's like the cassette tape.
And the idea was that you would It's the kind
of thing that was like around a lot and like
rom coms and stuff, that you would make someone a
mixtape with songs that reminded them of you, all songs
you wanted to know.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Like a Spotify playlist.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, so the evolution is a mixtape and then a
mixed But how do you make one now on a
cassette player?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But how do you do it? Like how do you
put all the songs on it?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Oh? Well, I guess back in the day, you'd have
one of those like double cassette players where you put
a cassette tape and one a cassette tape in the
other and you can move it over. Whoa you have
to be listening to the radio. I just want everyone
to know that I wasn't alive for this, but I
watch a lot of movies, so I know this of
the art I'm really young is that you have to
be listening to the radio. Song came on the radio,
the cassette players in there, you have to go record
(03:34):
and then stop and then you just do that song, yeah,
and until you record it off the radio. And so
you had to be listening for your songs to come along.
And that means that also you'd have all of your
songs that you might have, like a bit of a
car At or something, Yeah in the middle that was
but Hear Me and Rhapsody, So you'd have those kind
of tapes around. I remember like my mom had tapes
of those that I like play as a kid, where
(03:55):
she taped it off the radio and then I want
to mix tape. Do you wan to make you a mixtage?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It sounds like a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It is because then it's very personal, because it's like
the songs that you pick up someone, it's like what
you want them to know. Like for you, I could
pick cute songs about friendship, but then if you want
to do it for a ball. You could pick songs
about like hidden love, whoa yeah, and it's a way
to say it without saying it. So you can make
a mixed CD and then I guess now you can
send someone a Spotify playlist.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It's quite a dangerous game.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
My ex made me a Spotify playlist and one of
the songs was how to Say I Love You Oh,
and then he break up at me after oh, and
I was like.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Oh, I feel It's just a real mixed message, a
mixtape message for sure. So this TV show is called Mixtape. Okay,
we're talking a dating podcast. It's four hours and it's
four episodes, so it's yeah, four hours long, roughly the
length of the intro we just gave it. And it's
on Binge and it's actually based on the acclaimed novel
(04:52):
by Jane Sanderson. It's got an incredible cast including Jim Sturgis,
Florence Hunt who a lot of people know from Bridgerton,
Ben Lawson, but also friend of the pod Teresa Palmer.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yay, yeah, is it an Australian.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's an Australian Irish production. So it follows two different
timeline and one of the Timelines is set in the
nineteen eighties where Alison and Dan meet as like very
love struck teenagers, and then there's also a timeline happening
in the future where it shows that Alison and Dan
played by Jim Sturgis and Teresa Palmer both went their
(05:26):
separate ways after they fell in love as teenagers, and
now they're both grown up and you know, they're married
to other people and have their whole other lives. And
Dan is a music journalist and Alison is a best
selling novel He lives in the UK, she lives in Australia.
And then in the first episode, Teresa Palmer's character is
doing an into about her new novel and they're asking
her about like when she lived in Sheffield that's when
(05:47):
she met him, and you can see that she's like
very kind of taken it back and doesn't want to
talk about what happened. And then as the series goes on,
you kind of find out what happened to her in
the past, what happened to their love story, how they
might reconnect as adults, all kind of brought together by music,
and it's really love. It sounds like one of those.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Like little love stories yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I mean, there's definitely some dark parts to it, but
it is one of those stories. It's just like a
romantic drama where it's just about like it's about the characters.
It's about the evolution of their story. Like there's no
huge scary plot twists or anything like that. It's just
a really beautiful watch, super critically acclaimed when it first
started getting shown at film festivals and events. It actually
won the TV Spotlight Audience Award at south By Southwest
(06:29):
this year. So it was like the one that everyone
was like, this is the show to watch, and yeah,
it's just really nice. I just had a lovely time.
I sat down and watched all four episodes back to back.
Well I and you know, I love to like set
the scene and I had my candles lit and I
had my fresh flowers and yeah, and I always love
watching Teresa Palmer. I find it's such an interesting actress.
So if you're on binge and you watch Mixtape, then
(06:51):
go and watch her other new show, The Last Anniversary,
that also came out of this year, because they're both
really good watches.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
She's been doing some great work.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, so both based on best selling novels. Both on binge. Okay,
onto the main event.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I'm jealous, sir.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well that's what you've me on holiday, isn't it. I'm
going to set the scene. Okay, So this week I
went to the preview of a movie which is Adam
Cinemas now that we have been waiting to see for
such a.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Long time, the whole country has been waiting to see.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, the promo has been very good. So it's called Materialists.
And the way you probably know it is that it's
been billed as this big new love triangle movie starring
Dakota Johnson, Chris Evans and Pedro Pascal. Hear him say
his name? That I hear me? So my name is
Michael Queen's Rodney. Hey are you single? I'm a matchmaker.
(07:44):
Give me a call if you want to meet somebody.
I deserve someone who fulfills all of my criteria, nothing
over twenty PM.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I don't want someone who likes cats.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm trying to settle. I promise you're going to marry
the love of your life. How many marriages are you
responsible born? Now? Lucy, you're a matchmaker. Do you want
to drink sure cocin?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Deer?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Anybody I'm John.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Definitely didn't expect about it to you today.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, we don't even remember my face, Lucy.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And the eternal Bachelora. You can do better than me
my instincts you usually right.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Wow, you know how to.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Do the math, don't you. You are what we call.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
A unicorn, an impossible fantasy. How much is this enmartment
twelve million?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I'm not gonna marry him, are you?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Guess he's good looking and rich.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
He probably doesn't have roomain when I see your face,
the seat mirinkles, and children that look like you.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
So where does that leave us?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
The marketing material for this, I should say, has been
incredible because you have that very iconic poster, which is
Pedron Chris flanking Dakota on either side. Pedro's wearing his
very fancy tucks, Chris Evans is wearing more of a
cat away to outfit, and Dakota Johnson is in that beautiful,
rich blue gown that's become sort of like the symbol
of the movie. And then the trailer came out, and
(09:31):
the trailer felt very kind of like old school early
two thousands rom com. Yeah, you know, like she's she's
just a girl living in New York City.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Do I choose this hot man or this hot rich man.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
She's waking up in her beautiful, big apartment. That is
always the biggest lie that I think romantic comedy has
told us. It wasn't about love, was about real estate.
Because I always thought I was going to have a
huge apartment in New York and I wouldn't have to
pay for it. That's a lie.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's a lie, Carrie Ratcher, I feel listener.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You lie from Baganda. So, Dakota Johnson plays a woman
named Lucy, and as I said, we're introduced to her.
She's like in her beautiful New York City apartment. She
puts on her gorgeous outfit and she's walking through New
York and then she sees a hot man and she
looks eyes with him and she says, hello, I'm a
matchmaker and we have so many matches for you, and
she hands him her business card and then she bops
back along the street and you learn that she is
(10:18):
a matchmaker at an agency called a Door. So do
you know how matchmakers actually know a lot of people
who have been married through matchmakers story? Yeah, it's a thing.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I thought it was like a fake job.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Oh my god, No, it's a huge hut.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Dating apps took that away from them.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
No, because matchmaking agencies it's very high end, super super expensive,
like not for people like us, train your savings, and
that's why it matches people who are like quite rich,
That's what it is. So it's cutting through like it's
for people who don't want to put themselves on dating apps,
Like they have a lot of money and they used
to paying professionals to fix problems for them. And that's
where the matchmaker comes in. So especially Lucy being a
(10:56):
matchmaker in New York in this movie, she's all about finding,
you know, a matches for people who are very specific
kind of needs and a lot of money to pay
her bills. So the movie starts with her.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Going to wait, how do I get this job?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
How do you become a Matchmaker'd I think if I think,
once you watch this movie, you might not want to
be a matchmaker anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Oh no, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Again, it's a noble job. And like I said, I
know people who are married from it. Sometimes that's just
what you do. Wow, the same way as using a
dating app. But I don't think it's not all ribbons
and love hearts. Oh so so it's a horror. It's well, no,
we just wait.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So Lucy is attending the wedding of one of her matches.
So she's matched nine couples and she's getting celebrated and
it's all lovely. And then she gets to the wedding
and she's drumming up business and all this stuff, and
then she gets seated next to the groom's brother, a
multi multi millionaire called Harry's Pedro Pascal.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And she chooses Pedro Pascal and they live happily ever after.
Would you believe she match make herself.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I'm not gonna say who she ends up with, because
that is.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
The Can I tell you my theory?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
My theory is is that she jumps between Chris Evans
and I don't know their names, Chris and Pedro, and
then they start getting really annoyed at her and they're like, hey,
you have to choose, you have to choose, and then
she's like, I don't want to choose, and then they're like,
will choose, and then they choose each other.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I mean, that's a great movie. I'm gonna go out
in the limit to say that's not what happened.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I imagine like Chris Evans and Pedro Pascal is a couple.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I mean I would see. So she meets Harry and
she's all wanting to like sign him up for her agency.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
This is where this movie really it does not look
like a Harry.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah. Well, Chris Evans's name in the movie is John,
and he doesn't like a John, that's true. And she
kind of looks like a loosey, so that one fled.
So she's trying to sign up for the dating agency
because he is what they call And this is where
the movie gets very into kind of like dating speak.
It almost feels like it's a better movie than this.
But he's just not that into you, you know how
they bring it that was basically, and that brings a
(12:59):
lot of like dating lingo and phrases or rules or
like urban legends into the store.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I can't call them after three days blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, this movie kind of weaves in a lot of
that sort of stuff. So Pedro Pascal's Harry is what
we call a unicorn because he's got a really good job,
he's rich, he's tall, he's single, and he's looking for
a woman to share his life with and as their meeting,
Chris Evans's character John appears at the table.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Oh and he's none away things.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, he's tall and handsome. Oh yeah, but he's in
his late thirties. He's an actor who's still trying to
break into the industry, and he's picking up shifts as
a caterwaiter just to earn a bit of money to
pay for the terrible room. He shares in a terrible
apartment with like three other gross men. And so he
appears at the tables as Harry always call in Pedro,
I maybe I should just do that. As Pedro verscal
(13:48):
is hitting on Dakota Johnson, Chris Evans appears at the
table with Dakota Johnson's signature drink. And that is because
they've had a very long relationship and they've broken up
and all this kind of thing. I won't go into it.
So then the movie is very much around this question
of like compatibility and why marriage is a contract, and
also this question I'm interested in your thought on this,
this question of his marriage is a contract. Do you
(14:10):
marry the rich man who makes you feel valuable, but
who you are, you don't have a spark with but
everything on paper is good. Or do you marry the
poor man who you have a spark with, but nothing
about it makes business sense because marriage is a contract.
Even if you're in love, you're still entering into a
business arrangement.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's such a good point.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
The movie wants you to tell.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Oh my God, and you want me to answer.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, Okay, so you're Lucy your Dakota Fanning Dakota Johnson.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'd love to be Fanning. Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Firstly, I would choose to marry the rich man.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Interesting. You know what, that's not a bad thing because,
as I say in the movie, he makes you feel valuable,
and valuable is a very important part of you feel
like a human and feeling like you matter.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Also, sparks die right and like, as you said, they
did break up for a reason.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
So here's the interesting thing about Materialists is that when
the movie poster came out, when the trailer came out
and we saw who the leads were, Dakota and Pedro
and Chris, everyone was like, Yes, this is the rom
com I've been waiting for. And to be fair, the
promo for the movie did make it look like a
rom com. It's like it's Dakota Johnson in the Big
City tour between these two handsome men, and she's gonna
(15:33):
fall madly in love with one of them. This movie
is not a rom com. Oh it's a romantic drama.
Oh it's not a rom com at all. Oh my god,
it's romantic drama and potentially and at some points it
feels like a horror movie. What if you're currently in
the dating pool, which you know, I know me too.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh my god, I like.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Can I tell you? I was so thrown and so
just in my head about this movie. As I left that,
I walked home, and when I got home, I'm like,
why am I my feet in pain? And why did
that take so long? Because I don't live that far
from the movies, as you know, And I had forgotten
to like take my heels off from the premiere and
put my walking shoes on, which I normally do. I
just stopped through the streets of Sydney late at night
(16:12):
in my heels and I didn't put my headphones in
to like listen to music or anything. I was so
like in my head about like what does this mean?
And what do I think? And what does that mean?
Like it really turns all these tough questions.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It just makeing like I'm so keen to watch it
because when I came into the office today, like so
many people here, Mum and Maya went to watch it,
and one of our entertainment writers, Tara Watson, I think
she said something similar to you. She was like to me,
She's like, it's going to make you spiral, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Like, okay, so this, yeah, the setup is really really good.
So you see Lucy to go to Johnson going and
meeting with all her different clients, both men and women,
and what they are saying they want in a relationship.
It's just so sobering of like, oh, there's no one
out there and I'm not anyone's ideal because my age
is wrong, my height is wrong, my face is wrong,
(16:58):
my personality is wrong. And this is so transactional and
like the older you get, especially as a woman, like
there's just no men out there for you to meet,
and if you're a different size, there's no man.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Out for me.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
And it's so bleak. Literally, in those first few minutes,
I had my two wines, as you know, I have
my popcorn, and I was all read. I was all
in for the movie, and I was sitting there and
my heart was beating so far because I was like,
this movie that musquraded it as a rom com is
throwing this huge spotlight over this idea that what your
(17:29):
worth is, what it means to find love? How much
of like a rat race it is, like it's the
Hunger Games, how much you only have a tiny window
to be someone's ideal, how transactional it is, and just
how bleak it'll be if you as to go to
Johnson case as the movie she's like it's this or
dialoge and you're like, yeah, I don't know, it's really
(17:50):
And the thing is, no one should have gone into
this thinking it was a rom com because despite some
of the marketing, because it's written directed by Selene's Song
an incredible filmmaker, one of my absolute favorite filmmakers at
the moment, Oscar nominated her first movie, Past Lives. Like
this made me feel a lot like watching Past Me.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I had a very similar the pace it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, just how like she's a and I should also.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Past Lives if we haven't watched it.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Incredible amazing, Oh should I say materialists incredible? I actually
loved it. I just it hit me really hard, but
it's meant to like it did its job exactly. Like again,
she's not trying to tell a frothy wrong com She's
trying to like get in your heart and soul in
your head with this storyline and these characters. Yeah, I
just I think going into it because Past Lives is
like her first film, and Materialist is on the same vein,
(18:37):
and like Selene's song was just never going to write
a wrong comp Yeah, but again, the post is so pretty,
it's so nice, So it's just, yeah, it's really interesting
of like you see her sort of like go between
these two men, but then there's also the clients that
she works with and like what's happening in their lives,
and it just really I don't know, it builds this
really interesting ending. I would say, go and see the movies.
(18:58):
Like obviously you can watch when it comes on streaming,
but I almost feel like it's a good one to
go and like really immerse yourself in. You could go
by yourself and just have like a solo movie date
and yeah, and just take it all in. But it's
also a really really good movie to like if you
can go and see with like a bunch of your
girlfriends and then don't all rush off go to drinks
or something afterwards, because you're just gonna want to like
(19:19):
dissect this movie like crazy, or I want to talk
about the ending so bad.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Okay, okay, without spoiling the ending, give me some adjectives
to describe your feelings.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, romantic okay, a cop out. No, that's my personal opinion, Okay.
And it's like hopeful and really sobering at the same time.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Interesting. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I think a lot of people have talked to us
loved or hated the ending. People are very intense about it.
When I say cop it, I just mean, like I
thought we weren't making a romcom Selene, but sometimes we
almost veer into making I just find it so interesting,
I know. I guess if enough people see it, if
enough spillers want to talk about it, we could do
a really honest review.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
So I think the ending of Past Lives just destroyed
everything destroyed.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, this is not quite that, but it really like
and the build up to it and everything, and it
just really makes you question love and romance and everything,
but also makes you want it even more. Yeahlleen, No, anyway, materialists,
it's out now. I mean, look, if you just love
(20:28):
Pedro Pascal and Chris Evans. Also, Chris Evans great actor.
People have been really shitting on him since he left
Marvel because after he left Marvel the Marvels Automatic Universe,
he and Robert Downey Junior and Scarlett Johansson all left
at the same time. Yeah, and Scarlett Johanson nominated for
two Oscars straight after directing her home movie critically acclaimed.
Robert Downey Junior won an Oscar critically acclaimed. Chris Evans
(20:52):
not doing well got married to a younger woman that
people got really angry about it only because his.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Ex is Jenny's Lay. Yeah, and we thought he was
a different kind of I'm just gonna saying, well.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Did we all did? Brother did a podcast the other day?
Were you telling me his brother did a podcast the
other day saying that Chris Evans couldn't find love for
so long because so many people shot it on him
for his girlfriends and then were mean to his girlfriends.
The man's been through a lost He went through so much.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It's hard being a really attractive white.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Man, being attractive white man. Someone give him a chance,
So Anyway, this is the first time after he's left
the Marvel cinematic universe that people like, oh, you're a
real actor. You're a good actor.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
He does really well, but he should also go back.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah. He hates people asking him that you could see
to see the Materialists premiere, Like he was asked, what
do you go back to Marvel? And his soul has
left his body.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
So it's like when you ask Robert Patterson about Twilight.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, so Materialists listening is now, go and see it
and then talk to us about it. And I guess
if enough people, I love to do a brilli honest review.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
If enough people see it, Oh my god, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Okay, anyway, a very love and drama filled episode of
Weekend Watch about two recommendations to day love is in
the air.
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