October 16, 2025 • 21 mins
Julia Roberts, Ayo Edebiri, and Andrew Garfield’s new movie After The Hunt is out now in cinemas and is already stirring up a wave of controversy. Allow us to talk you through one of the buzziest movies of the year and whether or not you should see it.
And if you are craving a new scandalous young adult love story, then we’ve got a movie recommendation that you might be interested in.
Plus, Em has discovered a spy drama that she’s absolutely obsessed with, and you’ll want to binge it all weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm Laura
Brodney and I'm in Burnham, and it is a weekend.
Watched the episode of the week where we talk about
(00:35):
the best new TV shows and movies that have just
come out in some cases, so everyone knows what they
can watch this weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, look, my show is just a show I'm really
enjoying right now.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And that is allowed because we do have a special
guest coming on learning the episode to give us an
update on a brand new release. And I have a
release to you. Can I go first?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Because I just feel like at the moment, everyone is
looking for a bit of sexy escapism. Right. It's the
end of the year. People are stressed, people are tired,
people are about to spell a lot of time with
their families.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
People are horney.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well that too, And what gives you better sense of
romance and escapism than watching a movie about two step siblings?
Hook it up? Ill, No, don't pretend you're into it.
You just watched three seasons of the Summer I Turn Pretty.
I don't standing siblings, but they were raised as siblings.
Time they're going to tap into the same audience because
(01:28):
remember we went to that event for the Summer I
Turned Pretty and they had the two lead actresses and
the creator, Jenny Harn and it was all celebrating the
Summer I Turned Pretty. But they also had the author
behind them My Fault series, who was there when we
saw the trailer and everyone was like, yeah, you guys
like almost siblings looking up. Well, if you're like the
Summer I Turn Pretty, then you should know the My
(01:48):
Fault series. So if anyone's on across these movies, I
think the first one came out in twenty twenty three,
and I love the titles of these movies.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And they're also based off books.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
They're based off books. Yes, so Mercedes Ron is the
author behind it. She spoke at that event we went to, Yeah,
lovely so smart. They actually started as what Pad stories,
you know that online thinking when one could just I
believe it. She had a dream and a fantasy and
she put pen to paper or keypad to start what Pad.
We're about fifteen years behind that, but no, but we
(02:19):
should just start it. What would your fantasy be he
had to write a fantasy for what pad into a
TV show? Well, they're stepsiply I do, like you.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Know, I'm into my fairy smart. Yeah, it might be
like mythical like fairies.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But what hasn't been done, Like we've got fairy smart,
we've got where wolf smart obvious, there's so much vampires have.
Zombie smart is out there already, is it? I think
you'd have to go really off as a joke. No,
there's hips. You've not read any zombie smart where wolf
smuts out there, smart, centaur smart, decaying. Yeah, but some
people are just like there's actually there's that movie Warm
(02:53):
Bodies with Teresa Palmer and Nicholas's so true where she
does it is?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, she does.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Look up with the zombie and hot zombie is a
hot You have to if you want to write some
sort of smart mythology like adjacent, you'd have to go
for something that's not being tapped into, maybe like some gnomes.
What I.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Do.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Because fairies and mermaids have been done. Dryads have been done,
superheros have been done, Giants have been done. You're gonna
have to go an buddy and not want to tell you.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
You know what will be good smart, like you know
the B movie, like fan fiction of B movies.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I don't know. People wanted that he's people wanted that
woman talking up that bee.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yes, oh you know what?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
What cars again? I do think that's probably been done,
but actually not to a huge extent like Transformers, Like
does the car turn into a robot? You can have.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Transformers some of the Transformers hot miss Prime, Yes, Metron
Megatron's hot so hot?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh my god. And you want to almost be in
a love triangle with here in the villain.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh my god? What okay, okay, let me write this down,
let me ride.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
This, no one this it's a good idea to co
write a smutty Transformer's book where heroin it can be
a mixture of both of them.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Oh my god. You know what we should do. We
should write the book together and then do a really
honest review of our book. And you know what, it's
going to be really good.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And how about we at least just try and write
the first few pages and we'll read them on the spill.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I'm actually committed to this idea.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's a young woman torn between Optimist Prime and Megatron,
who she hooks up with both of them. What would
like pseudonyms be, Oh, I don't know how to get
into that, and you're gonna have to write something.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
This girl his Iron girl.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
He's a question.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
That we asked for.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Do they change into cars halfway through the sex act
or do they stay robots the whole time? Or do
you mix it up? We have to like think of
the logistics of this.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Maybe it starts in the car. Yeah, in the car
like full play. Yeah, you're in the car's full play,
and it's a bumpy road. It's a bumpy they transfer.
I love how you like had like a full like
woman in your head, and I just had myself.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
She started the kind was like, I fat, you're Stephaniemurrin twil.
You're just like I'm just doing a straight author incert.
It's me in the book, and I won't hear a
word about it. You're like, her name's Emily, her name's Emily.
Nam that I don't want to hear a word about Emily.
You like to go there, it's not me, it's a character,
all right, We'll stay true.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
That a great wee can watch so far.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, so you can read a book that doesn't exist
that we're gonna write. So My Fault, My Fault series, Okay,
I love the names of these movies. The first one
is called My Fault, the second movie is called Your Fault,
and the new movie that just came out last night
(05:56):
on Prime Video that is available for you to watch
is called Our Fault, which I think shows a healthy
sense of acceptance of who is the problem here and
it's both of them.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
So if anything, the next one will be their fault,
their fault, her fault.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Everyone kept telling me that London would be a fresh start,
but I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You know, It's just the big entrance wasn't necessary.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
God, it is.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I shod you swore, daddy boy. I'd hate to not
give up to your expectations.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Any other bad book shows.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Nick, what is going on with you?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So, as we said, they're based on the books by
Mercedes Ron and the first, like the whole story, right,
is about this seventeen year old girl called Noah who
moved into this really wealthy new hotel seventeen. Yeah, she
isn't start Okay, Yeah that's legal, is it? I mean,
let's not look for legalities in this situation. So her
mother marries a millionaire, right, must be that nice, And
(07:13):
she moves into the billionaire stepfather's home and she's trying
to adjust to life in this new world, all this
money and all this power, and then she meets her
new step brother. Nick, is involved in street racing and
has a rebellious streak. It's how he's described.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay, fast and.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Furious, so yeah, yeah, no, it has a real fast
and furious bent these movies.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, I remember the trailer had a lot of cars
and that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, is that what you were really getting into? That
cross curss is over with our transformers, fanship.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's all comfortable circle.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
So Noah and Nick at first they hate each other,
of course, but not in the way siblings enemies to
lover us. I know. It's all the tropes twisted in there.
So Nick noan me and they don't like each other,
and there's a lot of tension between them, but it
soon turns.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
He's like, no, he's my biological.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Girl dad, And there's no way to sugarcoat this. There's
step siblings fall in love and start hooking up. There's
lots of different elements involved.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And so do they tell the parents.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, yeah, the parents know.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't want to get into like which movie things
happen because I don't know if people have watched all
of them, so don't want to spoil. But like, that's
the premise of the three movies. So the last movie
in the trilogy, Our Fold, only came out on Prime
Video this week, so it's there to watch. So if
you've been watched the first two movies and you're hanging
out for the last installment, it's out now. But if
you haven't watched any of them, you should really sit
(08:38):
down and do a free film feature this weekend. Oh
my god, sexy watch it all the way to the end.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
How long are the movies? Are they like little extendon
movie like okay, oh my god. Yeah they're a little
weak or anything. But you could knock the three of
them over in like under six hours. I definitely have
sexy time. So yeah, on fault on Prime Video?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
What is your recommendation? Doesn't have anything to do with
sexy cars?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
No, okay, my recommendation is a series that's just come
out Apple TV. Yes, it is called Slow Horses.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Okay, I have not seen this, but I've seen so
much chat around it LB.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It's one of those shows where everyone's like, have you
watched thow Horses yet? Have you watched it yet?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Have you No?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
That's what people say to me, and I'm like no, no, no,
And then this weekend I was like, you know what,
I'm just gonna give it a go. M It's been
like everywhere I'm going to start on season one because
obviously I'm not gonna yeah, I'm not going to crazy,
so I start on season one. I watched the whole
of season one in one day, really twelve pm two
I think around seven pm.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, well that's a real committmence and you must have
been very invested.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
It is so so good. So it stars Gary Oldman.
He plays this character called Jackson Lamb and he's head
of a certain division in m I five and it's
the type of division where like kind of disgraced I
five agents work out. It's so like division that you
don't want to end up in. It's kind of a
joke division. Like the name they call it is Slough
(10:09):
House because of so far out of London they may
as well be in Slough And it's basically him and
The other main character is this guy named River cart Ride.
He's played by Jack Lodin. And all of these agents
like they do something like really really bad in five.
Like one of the agents like leaves a top secret
file on the train, so he's immediately put into some holes.
(10:30):
Like you can't mess up in five. They're like the
top of the top. It's like these group of agents
like they're laughing stock amongst all of the MI five people.
They have like these really boring, mundane tasks to do,
like kind of like tailgating people who aren't even that important,
like looking through files, like looking through rubbish cans of
like people they're investigating, and then they have to send
all their findings to the real MI five division. They
(10:53):
come across a really big kidnapping and they decided to
take upon themselves to save this guy who's being kidnapped,
and they uncover some certain secrets within the MI five division.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Interesting it is.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Done so it's like like typical British crime where it's
just so good and juicy, but also has that element
of realism, like it's no expendables, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, again, that's only your favorite movie franchise. For most people,
that's not the bar.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No no, no, no, no, no. It doesn't feel like
over the top or over fake over.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Actionly and how's Gary Oldman my favorite actors? You know?
He plays Drucula in Bram Stoker's Dracula, one of my
favorite favorite movies of all time. Okay, he don't say
anying about about Gary Oldman.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I'm not saying any think he's obviously an amazing actor.
He just looks different. Well yeah, he's older, yeah, but
he's really like the character he plays is like this old, greasy,
annoying like gross Man. I bet he does that very well.
He does it really well. But also like I found
him quite sexy in Batman.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
He wasn't there, yes, oh yeah, yeah was me when
he was Batman.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
No, he wasn't Batman. I found him sexy. Commissioner Gordon
commission as Commissioner Gordon Batman with his mustache.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, oh yeah. Hot. He's hot in everything.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
He's hot, just not in this. But he's really good.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
He's really doing good character acting. He's hot in real life.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The main guy, Jack Lowden, super hard.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, no, I believe you, And I've seen pictures of him.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
He is very, very sexy. But you don't like, I'm
not watching it like you know me, and I'm not
watching it going like, oh my god, this guy is
so hot. I'm watching it because it's actually a really
good pla. Yes, yes, Now I know everyone has already
watched it, so they're probably like yelling into their phones
right now at me, going, you're explaining everything really really wrong. Okay,
and I'm sorry about that, but look, I'm a ner
(12:45):
fan and now I'm on board.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, and I'm sure there's heaps people who haven't watched
it who are going to watch it.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Please watch it.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It's so wet.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
We can watch it on Apple TV. It is called
Slow Horses.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Okay, So we have Broughten a special guest for this
next beer, because.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
When did you get here?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
All the listeners just drove the cart Thanks for that, Emily.
So a very important movie has come out this week now,
Emily and I couldn't get to the premiere, so we
have roped in someone who did. Would you like to
tell the people who you are?
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Hi, I'm Chelsea. I'm the entertainment producer here at Mamma Mia.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Oh my gosh, entertainment writer at Mamma Mia and also
hosting some upcoming episodes of Watch Party. You're all across
the poet, So tell us which movie you went to
without us?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I watched After the Hunt, directed by what Nino, Yeah,
Luco and starring Julia Roberts, Iodebris, Andrew Garfield. Highly anticipated movie,
and I do have thoughts.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Talk to Maggie today.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
No, she wasn't a class, no call, no show. I
need to speak with you. Okay, Hank walked me home.
What do you saying happened? He crossed the line?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But what actually happened?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
These kids We've had everything handed to them in their lives.
Insists that the world stopped. But the first slip of victimization,
you should be ready, ready for what we backlash Potentially.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I don't feel comfortable having this conversation with you anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Not everything is supposed to make you a comfortable.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Great, incredible cast, and I feel like everyone only really
found out that this movie was happening in that awkward
interview where Julia robbers yes, where.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
She's like, I'm gonna put this question of me too,
and race to you, Andrew Garfield and you Julia Robbers
two white people in the room Black Lives Matter? Yes,
could I could not me.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And like take off your classes. I was like yes, Julia, Yeah,
there's a buzz.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
They've been very cute on the press tour. So yes,
tell us the first of what the movie is about.
What's the premise.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Julia Roberts plays a Yale professor and her life sort
of gets turned upside down when her star student, which
is Io Debrie's character, levels some pretty troubling sexual assault
allegations against her Alma's friend and drama. Yeah, it's a
psychological drama, drama.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, oh I did not know this was a surprise
to you, but yes.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yes, because I've only ever seen her in comedy. It's like,
amazing actor, but like I've only ever seen her in comedy.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Are you calling the Bearer comedy? You're the problem with
the any voting?
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Literally, Yeah, she's incredible in this.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Oh my god, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, it's so good. Yes, through me. You thought you
were tuning in for a field.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
We thought it was a comedy the genre.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
So yeah, So her life kind of gets turned upside
down and it's really about the fallout, and we start
to uncover a lot about her character and her own secrets.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
So Io Debris is making sexual assault allegations against Andrew
Gard's character.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
And he's very good friends with Julia Robertson's character. So
Julia Robins's character is kind of grappling with this, right,
and do you see her kind of processes and what
kind of follows?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, and he did he do it?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Don't ruin the movie. That's an interesting premise too, because
it is that idea of like, we're all, you know,
we're all believe women, which I stand by. I don't
cut that and put a cut that b Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I mean how no one seems to believe women.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think that's the premise of this movie. But I
think there's a huge complication when it's someone you know
and love and you're just like, this is that I'm
assuming what I've seen from like the intus and trailers
and stuff. You just like, it can't be this person
like I know them. And we see a lot of
people grapple with that when allegations are made against people
they know. It's just like an extra layer.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, and the film you sort of see her no spoilers,
but the moment she's told this news and how that
kind of changes throughout the film and you start to
find out that she has some relation to the subject
matter in some way.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Oh interesting. So all the kind of headlines around this
movie is it kind of like people keep saying, like
the Me Too movement, especially in Hollywood, burned fast and
bright for so long, and then there was a few
complications and some people feel like it's dropped off in
some areas and I lost momentum, and obviously, like there's
that movement still exists. And then when this movie came out,
the question was that it was maybe going to be
(17:07):
damaging to the Me Too movement because it was alluding
to the fact that some women lie though even though
like we know in the world, the percentage of women
who lie is so so minuscule it barely warrants.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
But they're the ones that we share about.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, exactly, and so and obviously sometimes cases can't go
forward because of a lack of evidence. It doesn't mean
it didn't happen. But what was your thoughts on that
in the movie in terms of like how it would
relate to the Me too movement?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
In that conversation, Yeah, I would say my personal opinion,
great movie in terms of what the director was able
to do. It's visually stunning, music is great, It's very
unsettling in tones. So I feel like I enjoyed the film,
but I would agree that I feel like there are
some bad ethics in it where I walked away not
really understanding the message or the commentary there is trying
(17:54):
to make about the me too movement, and I was
quite confused because there are some pretty divisive scenes really
in the movie, but I didn't come away feeling like
there was a strong take on that from the director.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
It is a massive swing to because I'm assuming that
again we don't want to give too much away, but
I'm assuming the premise is that there's this idea that
Io's character is lying.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
It tows that line where we don't know if she's lying.
Did he do it?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Did he not?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
And it's like jumps back and forth.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, from a storytelling point of view, that's so interesting. Yeah,
that idea of like having this unreliable narrator and this
unreliable character and the fallout from something like that is
so huge. But when you look at it, as you're saying,
from like like a real life news perspective, it is
kind of damaging because like there is that rhetoric out
there that women lie. Now this, I think, Okay, it's
that whole thing of like, do movies have to have
(18:41):
like a moral kind of compass around them. I don't
think so.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
But I think it's different when it's like a movie
like this where it's like a story that happens every
day to women all the time, because the other thing
I can relate it to. And I obviously haven't seen
this movie, but a movie I have seen that like
was so big an award winning was Anatomy of a four. Yeah,
and when that, I feel like that's such an extreme
because that's obviously like a murder plot. And I think
(19:06):
it works in those scenarios when like the crime the
quote unquote crime is like so extreme versus in these
movies where it's actually just something that happens to women
every single day.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah, it is kind of I was conflicted because it's
beautiful storytelling and I really enjoyed it. In this, I
wouldn't say enjoyed it. It's very anxiety provoking. I think
they do that on purpose.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You're stressed for like the two hours, you're meant to
sort of feel like you're in the city.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yes, and they do that very well. But I do
think as a director maybe there is a responsibility to
take a bit of a stance when the subject matter
is so pertinent and so important.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, it's almost like there should have been like a
little endo graphic that says like this is based on
fictional events. Yeah, something like ninety nine percent of women
who come forward are telling the true that there aren't
real stats. Yeah, around that, It's almost like you needed that.
But then also, is that diluting the storytelling? Is like
taking away from art because it's.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Not the last week I want? Is people to take
that away? Is truth? Yeah, which I feel like a
lot of people do.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You don't want what most of it would be? They're like,
well one percent of women lie, Like that's they would
take that away. How were the performances? Because Julia Roberts
always talks about the fact that she has really stepped
away from acting, and she only peaks very specific projects
to work on, and then Iowa Debris, as we know,
has done a lot of comedy Bottoms one of the
greatest movies ever. She's like in the Bear. We've had
(20:20):
a lot of time to sit with her character, but
I feel like this is a very different role for her. Incredible.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
The performances really carry the entire movie. And that's why
I struggle to say I have seen some of the
movies online, and I feel like I struggled to say
that I didn't enjoy or that it's not a good movie,
because the performances are so fantastic and the chemistry between
the three of them is incredible and all is I
love him, but in this movie, I'm like, god, I.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
That's interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So did he play a professor yesse country glasses, yes, Oh,
but not.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
In like a fun country way, like I want to
punch you in the face.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Good.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
He's like that classic a philosophy professor that's like very
flirty with his students and really toes the line of
being unethical and unlasonable.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I know those.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Experience. Oh my gosh, I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh my god. So after the Hunt, So it's in
cinemas now, and you're saying you do recommend people see it,
but just be aware it's a bit of an experience.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And you have no comedy.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
No, it's you heard it here first.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
And if you have anxiety, I do. This is your warning.
A stressful movie.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Take some chocolate in yeah it, take some chocolate, take
a breather. Okay, amazing. Thank you for that review. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
Do not forget to follow us on socials. We are
on Instagram and TikTok at the Spill podcast. The Spill
is produced by Minishio's Lauren with sound production by Scotstranik
and we will see you next time.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Bye bye bye
So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome
to the Spill your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm Laura
Brodney and I'm in Burnham, and it is a weekend.
Watched the episode of the week where we talk about
(00:35):
the best new TV shows and movies that have just
come out in some cases, so everyone knows what they
can watch this weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, look, my show is just a show I'm really
enjoying right now.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And that is allowed because we do have a special
guest coming on learning the episode to give us an
update on a brand new release. And I have a
release to you. Can I go first?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Because I just feel like at the moment, everyone is
looking for a bit of sexy escapism. Right. It's the
end of the year. People are stressed, people are tired,
people are about to spell a lot of time with
their families.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
People are horney.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well that too, And what gives you better sense of
romance and escapism than watching a movie about two step siblings?
Hook it up? Ill, No, don't pretend you're into it.
You just watched three seasons of the Summer I Turn Pretty.
I don't standing siblings, but they were raised as siblings.
Time they're going to tap into the same audience because
(01:28):
remember we went to that event for the Summer I
Turned Pretty and they had the two lead actresses and
the creator, Jenny Harn and it was all celebrating the
Summer I Turned Pretty. But they also had the author
behind them My Fault series, who was there when we
saw the trailer and everyone was like, yeah, you guys
like almost siblings looking up. Well, if you're like the
Summer I Turn Pretty, then you should know the My
(01:48):
Fault series. So if anyone's on across these movies, I
think the first one came out in twenty twenty three,
and I love the titles of these movies.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And they're also based off books.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
They're based off books. Yes, so Mercedes Ron is the
author behind it. She spoke at that event we went to, Yeah,
lovely so smart. They actually started as what Pad stories,
you know that online thinking when one could just I
believe it. She had a dream and a fantasy and
she put pen to paper or keypad to start what Pad.
We're about fifteen years behind that, but no, but we
(02:19):
should just start it. What would your fantasy be he
had to write a fantasy for what pad into a
TV show? Well, they're stepsiply I do, like you.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Know, I'm into my fairy smart. Yeah, it might be
like mythical like fairies.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But what hasn't been done, Like we've got fairy smart,
we've got where wolf smart obvious, there's so much vampires have.
Zombie smart is out there already, is it? I think
you'd have to go really off as a joke. No,
there's hips. You've not read any zombie smart where wolf
smuts out there, smart, centaur smart, decaying. Yeah, but some
people are just like there's actually there's that movie Warm
(02:53):
Bodies with Teresa Palmer and Nicholas's so true where she
does it is?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, she does.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Look up with the zombie and hot zombie is a
hot You have to if you want to write some
sort of smart mythology like adjacent, you'd have to go
for something that's not being tapped into, maybe like some gnomes.
What I.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Do.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Because fairies and mermaids have been done. Dryads have been done,
superheros have been done, Giants have been done. You're gonna
have to go an buddy and not want to tell you.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
You know what will be good smart, like you know
the B movie, like fan fiction of B movies.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I don't know. People wanted that he's people wanted that
woman talking up that bee.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yes, oh you know what?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
What cars again? I do think that's probably been done,
but actually not to a huge extent like Transformers, Like
does the car turn into a robot? You can have.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Transformers some of the Transformers hot miss Prime, Yes, Metron
Megatron's hot so hot?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh my god. And you want to almost be in
a love triangle with here in the villain.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh my god? What okay, okay, let me write this down,
let me ride.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
This, no one this it's a good idea to co
write a smutty Transformer's book where heroin it can be
a mixture of both of them.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Oh my god. You know what we should do. We
should write the book together and then do a really
honest review of our book. And you know what, it's
going to be really good.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And how about we at least just try and write
the first few pages and we'll read them on the spill.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I'm actually committed to this idea.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's a young woman torn between Optimist Prime and Megatron,
who she hooks up with both of them. What would
like pseudonyms be, Oh, I don't know how to get
into that, and you're gonna have to write something.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
This girl his Iron girl.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
He's a question.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
That we asked for.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Do they change into cars halfway through the sex act
or do they stay robots the whole time? Or do
you mix it up? We have to like think of
the logistics of this.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Maybe it starts in the car. Yeah, in the car
like full play. Yeah, you're in the car's full play,
and it's a bumpy road. It's a bumpy they transfer.
I love how you like had like a full like
woman in your head, and I just had myself.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
She started the kind was like, I fat, you're Stephaniemurrin twil.
You're just like I'm just doing a straight author incert.
It's me in the book, and I won't hear a
word about it. You're like, her name's Emily, her name's Emily.
Nam that I don't want to hear a word about Emily.
You like to go there, it's not me, it's a character,
all right, We'll stay true.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
That a great wee can watch so far.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, so you can read a book that doesn't exist
that we're gonna write. So My Fault, My Fault series, Okay,
I love the names of these movies. The first one
is called My Fault, the second movie is called Your Fault,
and the new movie that just came out last night
(05:56):
on Prime Video that is available for you to watch
is called Our Fault, which I think shows a healthy
sense of acceptance of who is the problem here and
it's both of them.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
So if anything, the next one will be their fault,
their fault, her fault.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Everyone kept telling me that London would be a fresh start,
but I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You know, It's just the big entrance wasn't necessary.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
God, it is.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I shod you swore, daddy boy. I'd hate to not
give up to your expectations.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Any other bad book shows.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Nick, what is going on with you?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So, as we said, they're based on the books by
Mercedes Ron and the first, like the whole story, right,
is about this seventeen year old girl called Noah who
moved into this really wealthy new hotel seventeen. Yeah, she
isn't start Okay, Yeah that's legal, is it? I mean,
let's not look for legalities in this situation. So her
mother marries a millionaire, right, must be that nice, And
(07:13):
she moves into the billionaire stepfather's home and she's trying
to adjust to life in this new world, all this
money and all this power, and then she meets her
new step brother. Nick, is involved in street racing and
has a rebellious streak. It's how he's described.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay, fast and.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Furious, so yeah, yeah, no, it has a real fast
and furious bent these movies.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, I remember the trailer had a lot of cars
and that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, is that what you were really getting into? That
cross curss is over with our transformers, fanship.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It's all comfortable circle.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
So Noah and Nick at first they hate each other,
of course, but not in the way siblings enemies to
lover us. I know. It's all the tropes twisted in there.
So Nick noan me and they don't like each other,
and there's a lot of tension between them, but it
soon turns.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
He's like, no, he's my biological.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Girl dad, And there's no way to sugarcoat this. There's
step siblings fall in love and start hooking up. There's
lots of different elements involved.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And so do they tell the parents.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, yeah, the parents know.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't want to get into like which movie things
happen because I don't know if people have watched all
of them, so don't want to spoil. But like, that's
the premise of the three movies. So the last movie
in the trilogy, Our Fold, only came out on Prime
Video this week, so it's there to watch. So if
you've been watched the first two movies and you're hanging
out for the last installment, it's out now. But if
you haven't watched any of them, you should really sit
(08:38):
down and do a free film feature this weekend. Oh
my god, sexy watch it all the way to the end.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
How long are the movies? Are they like little extendon
movie like okay, oh my god. Yeah they're a little
weak or anything. But you could knock the three of
them over in like under six hours. I definitely have
sexy time. So yeah, on fault on Prime Video?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
What is your recommendation? Doesn't have anything to do with
sexy cars?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
No, okay, my recommendation is a series that's just come
out Apple TV. Yes, it is called Slow Horses.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Okay, I have not seen this, but I've seen so
much chat around it LB.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It's one of those shows where everyone's like, have you
watched thow Horses yet? Have you watched it yet?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Have you No?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
That's what people say to me, and I'm like no, no, no,
And then this weekend I was like, you know what,
I'm just gonna give it a go. M It's been
like everywhere I'm going to start on season one because
obviously I'm not gonna yeah, I'm not going to crazy,
so I start on season one. I watched the whole
of season one in one day, really twelve pm two
I think around seven pm.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, well that's a real committmence and you must have
been very invested.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
It is so so good. So it stars Gary Oldman.
He plays this character called Jackson Lamb and he's head
of a certain division in m I five and it's
the type of division where like kind of disgraced I
five agents work out. It's so like division that you
don't want to end up in. It's kind of a
joke division. Like the name they call it is Slough
(10:09):
House because of so far out of London they may
as well be in Slough And it's basically him and
The other main character is this guy named River cart Ride.
He's played by Jack Lodin. And all of these agents
like they do something like really really bad in five.
Like one of the agents like leaves a top secret
file on the train, so he's immediately put into some holes.
(10:30):
Like you can't mess up in five. They're like the
top of the top. It's like these group of agents
like they're laughing stock amongst all of the MI five people.
They have like these really boring, mundane tasks to do,
like kind of like tailgating people who aren't even that important,
like looking through files, like looking through rubbish cans of
like people they're investigating, and then they have to send
all their findings to the real MI five division. They
(10:53):
come across a really big kidnapping and they decided to
take upon themselves to save this guy who's being kidnapped,
and they uncover some certain secrets within the MI five division.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Interesting it is.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Done so it's like like typical British crime where it's
just so good and juicy, but also has that element
of realism, like it's no expendables, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, again, that's only your favorite movie franchise. For most people,
that's not the bar.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No no, no, no, no, no. It doesn't feel like
over the top or over fake over.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Actionly and how's Gary Oldman my favorite actors? You know?
He plays Drucula in Bram Stoker's Dracula, one of my
favorite favorite movies of all time. Okay, he don't say
anying about about Gary Oldman.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I'm not saying any think he's obviously an amazing actor.
He just looks different. Well yeah, he's older, yeah, but
he's really like the character he plays is like this old, greasy,
annoying like gross Man. I bet he does that very well.
He does it really well. But also like I found
him quite sexy in Batman.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
He wasn't there, yes, oh yeah, yeah was me when
he was Batman.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
No, he wasn't Batman. I found him sexy. Commissioner Gordon
commission as Commissioner Gordon Batman with his mustache.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, oh yeah. Hot. He's hot in everything.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
He's hot, just not in this. But he's really good.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
He's really doing good character acting. He's hot in real life.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The main guy, Jack Lowden, super hard.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, no, I believe you, And I've seen pictures of him.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
He is very, very sexy. But you don't like, I'm
not watching it like you know me, and I'm not
watching it going like, oh my god, this guy is
so hot. I'm watching it because it's actually a really
good pla. Yes, yes, Now I know everyone has already
watched it, so they're probably like yelling into their phones
right now at me, going, you're explaining everything really really wrong. Okay,
and I'm sorry about that, but look, I'm a ner
(12:45):
fan and now I'm on board.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, and I'm sure there's heaps people who haven't watched
it who are going to watch it.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Please watch it.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It's so wet.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
We can watch it on Apple TV. It is called
Slow Horses.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Okay, So we have Broughten a special guest for this
next beer, because.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
When did you get here?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
All the listeners just drove the cart Thanks for that, Emily.
So a very important movie has come out this week now,
Emily and I couldn't get to the premiere, so we
have roped in someone who did. Would you like to
tell the people who you are?
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Hi, I'm Chelsea. I'm the entertainment producer here at Mamma Mia.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Oh my gosh, entertainment writer at Mamma Mia and also
hosting some upcoming episodes of Watch Party. You're all across
the poet, So tell us which movie you went to
without us?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I watched After the Hunt, directed by what Nino, Yeah,
Luco and starring Julia Roberts, Iodebris, Andrew Garfield. Highly anticipated movie,
and I do have thoughts.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Talk to Maggie today.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
No, she wasn't a class, no call, no show. I
need to speak with you. Okay, Hank walked me home.
What do you saying happened? He crossed the line?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But what actually happened?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
These kids We've had everything handed to them in their lives.
Insists that the world stopped. But the first slip of victimization,
you should be ready, ready for what we backlash Potentially.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I don't feel comfortable having this conversation with you anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Not everything is supposed to make you a comfortable.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Great, incredible cast, and I feel like everyone only really
found out that this movie was happening in that awkward
interview where Julia robbers yes, where.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
She's like, I'm gonna put this question of me too,
and race to you, Andrew Garfield and you Julia Robbers
two white people in the room Black Lives Matter? Yes,
could I could not me.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And like take off your classes. I was like yes, Julia, Yeah,
there's a buzz.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
They've been very cute on the press tour. So yes,
tell us the first of what the movie is about.
What's the premise.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Julia Roberts plays a Yale professor and her life sort
of gets turned upside down when her star student, which
is Io Debrie's character, levels some pretty troubling sexual assault
allegations against her Alma's friend and drama. Yeah, it's a
psychological drama, drama.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, oh I did not know this was a surprise
to you, but yes.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yes, because I've only ever seen her in comedy. It's like,
amazing actor, but like I've only ever seen her in comedy.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Are you calling the Bearer comedy? You're the problem with
the any voting?
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Literally, Yeah, she's incredible in this.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Oh my god, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, it's so good. Yes, through me. You thought you
were tuning in for a field.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
We thought it was a comedy the genre.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
So yeah, So her life kind of gets turned upside
down and it's really about the fallout, and we start
to uncover a lot about her character and her own secrets.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
So Io Debris is making sexual assault allegations against Andrew
Gard's character.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
And he's very good friends with Julia Robertson's character. So
Julia Robins's character is kind of grappling with this, right,
and do you see her kind of processes and what
kind of follows?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, and he did he do it?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Don't ruin the movie. That's an interesting premise too, because
it is that idea of like, we're all, you know,
we're all believe women, which I stand by. I don't
cut that and put a cut that b Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I mean how no one seems to believe women.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think that's the premise of this movie. But I
think there's a huge complication when it's someone you know
and love and you're just like, this is that I'm
assuming what I've seen from like the intus and trailers
and stuff. You just like, it can't be this person
like I know them. And we see a lot of
people grapple with that when allegations are made against people
they know. It's just like an extra layer.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, and the film you sort of see her no spoilers,
but the moment she's told this news and how that
kind of changes throughout the film and you start to
find out that she has some relation to the subject
matter in some way.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Oh interesting. So all the kind of headlines around this
movie is it kind of like people keep saying, like
the Me Too movement, especially in Hollywood, burned fast and
bright for so long, and then there was a few
complications and some people feel like it's dropped off in
some areas and I lost momentum, and obviously, like there's
that movement still exists. And then when this movie came out,
the question was that it was maybe going to be
(17:07):
damaging to the Me Too movement because it was alluding
to the fact that some women lie though even though
like we know in the world, the percentage of women
who lie is so so minuscule it barely warrants.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
But they're the ones that we share about.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, exactly, and so and obviously sometimes cases can't go
forward because of a lack of evidence. It doesn't mean
it didn't happen. But what was your thoughts on that
in the movie in terms of like how it would
relate to the Me too movement?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
In that conversation, Yeah, I would say my personal opinion,
great movie in terms of what the director was able
to do. It's visually stunning, music is great, It's very
unsettling in tones. So I feel like I enjoyed the film,
but I would agree that I feel like there are
some bad ethics in it where I walked away not
really understanding the message or the commentary there is trying
(17:54):
to make about the me too movement, and I was
quite confused because there are some pretty divisive scenes really
in the movie, but I didn't come away feeling like
there was a strong take on that from the director.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
It is a massive swing to because I'm assuming that
again we don't want to give too much away, but
I'm assuming the premise is that there's this idea that
Io's character is lying.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
It tows that line where we don't know if she's lying.
Did he do it?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Did he not?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
And it's like jumps back and forth.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, from a storytelling point of view, that's so interesting. Yeah,
that idea of like having this unreliable narrator and this
unreliable character and the fallout from something like that is
so huge. But when you look at it, as you're saying,
from like like a real life news perspective, it is
kind of damaging because like there is that rhetoric out
there that women lie. Now this, I think, Okay, it's
that whole thing of like, do movies have to have
(18:41):
like a moral kind of compass around them. I don't
think so.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
But I think it's different when it's like a movie
like this where it's like a story that happens every
day to women all the time, because the other thing
I can relate it to. And I obviously haven't seen
this movie, but a movie I have seen that like
was so big an award winning was Anatomy of a four. Yeah,
and when that, I feel like that's such an extreme
because that's obviously like a murder plot. And I think
(19:06):
it works in those scenarios when like the crime the
quote unquote crime is like so extreme versus in these
movies where it's actually just something that happens to women
every single day.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah, it is kind of I was conflicted because it's
beautiful storytelling and I really enjoyed it. In this, I
wouldn't say enjoyed it. It's very anxiety provoking. I think
they do that on purpose.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You're stressed for like the two hours, you're meant to
sort of feel like you're in the city.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yes, and they do that very well. But I do
think as a director maybe there is a responsibility to
take a bit of a stance when the subject matter
is so pertinent and so important.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, it's almost like there should have been like a
little endo graphic that says like this is based on
fictional events. Yeah, something like ninety nine percent of women
who come forward are telling the true that there aren't
real stats. Yeah, around that, It's almost like you needed that.
But then also, is that diluting the storytelling? Is like
taking away from art because it's.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Not the last week I want? Is people to take
that away? Is truth? Yeah, which I feel like a
lot of people do.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You don't want what most of it would be? They're like,
well one percent of women lie, Like that's they would
take that away. How were the performances? Because Julia Roberts
always talks about the fact that she has really stepped
away from acting, and she only peaks very specific projects
to work on, and then Iowa Debris, as we know,
has done a lot of comedy Bottoms one of the
greatest movies ever. She's like in the Bear. We've had
(20:20):
a lot of time to sit with her character, but
I feel like this is a very different role for her. Incredible.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
The performances really carry the entire movie. And that's why
I struggle to say I have seen some of the
movies online, and I feel like I struggled to say
that I didn't enjoy or that it's not a good movie,
because the performances are so fantastic and the chemistry between
the three of them is incredible and all is I
love him, but in this movie, I'm like, god, I.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
That's interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So did he play a professor yesse country glasses, yes, Oh,
but not.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
In like a fun country way, like I want to
punch you in the face.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Good.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
He's like that classic a philosophy professor that's like very
flirty with his students and really toes the line of
being unethical and unlasonable.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I know those.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Experience. Oh my gosh, I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh my god. So after the Hunt, So it's in
cinemas now, and you're saying you do recommend people see it,
but just be aware it's a bit of an experience.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And you have no comedy.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
No, it's you heard it here first.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
And if you have anxiety, I do. This is your warning.
A stressful movie.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Take some chocolate in yeah it, take some chocolate, take
a breather. Okay, amazing. Thank you for that review. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.
Do not forget to follow us on socials. We are
on Instagram and TikTok at the Spill podcast. The Spill
is produced by Minishio's Lauren with sound production by Scotstranik
and we will see you next time.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Bye bye bye
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It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
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