July 3, 2025 • 20 mins
It’s the weekend and we’ve got thoughts - heated ones - about the latest addition to a certain dino-packed franchise.
Two of our hosts, both longtime fans, saw the new release this week and walked out with very different reactions.Was it a nostalgic thrill or a soulless sequel? We're breaking down what worked, what flopped, and why this blockbuster has us a little confused.
Plus, a PSA about a new show dropping next week from a very familiar (and often divisive) creator. We tell you why it might be worth putting on your radar.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hello and welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fix.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm m Burnham and I'm Cassenni Luki Tim. We've got
a special guest.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
A special guest entertainment writer and head of social.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Is that you pop culture and social editor. We almost
got there, We almost did. Hi, I'm Tina Burke.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Tina Burke is in the house because on the show today,
we're doing week and watch a bit differently because my
weekend watch was suddenly interrupted by a very scandalous article
that went live on Mom and Mia. So my weekend
watch is going to involve a bit of a throwdown
with Tina Burke.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm going to be mediating because I haven't seen the
that you're talking about. But before we get into it,
we are going to go into a full Jurassic World
rundown between.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
The two of you.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah yeah, But before we do that, I do just
want to kind of give a PSA to everybody about
too much.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
What's too much?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
We're all too much?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Just something has shifted with you.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Josh Hi, how are you girl? Or you could you're unhappy?
Leave me me. It's the worst thing everyone's ever die.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Change your life. Go to London, seriously, you love London
us the Spice World nine times in the theater.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I could do it. I could go and find my
English dream.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You know, a state ground starting gardens.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Good luck with that. Love one of them.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You're the singing guy.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
By the way, You've got like an American accent.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Right, let me guess you like one of those love Actually, girls.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
This is London. I came here for I out of
a movie.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, horror movie.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
These people are full of pent uprage and dark secrets.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I know. Would look at the Yellow House. I came
here to find myself. A lot of stuff went down
in New York. My ex boyfriend is living with another
woman right now. Yeah, I want you to cut their
heads off and sew them back on.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Looking in a big blue eyes.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Is he who he says he is?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
This is all just man here.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
He's of red flex.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You think you're so special.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I get that it's hard for you, but like it's
hard for fucking everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, I wanted to be in bed with like a
few grant from the British Jones Diaries.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Would you say British Jones Now there's four of them. Yeah,
it's not cooled. British Jones's British so too much? Is
the new Netflix series by Lena Dunna.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yes, I am very very excited about this.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Okay, So there's been a lot of chat about this.
It's going to air on the tenth of July on Netflix.
This is kind of basically just me showing off. Oh wy,
I've already seen it.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You've already seen it.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, okay, I'm not like to say whether it's good
or bad. I have already seen it.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
There's embargo, but it was created by Lena Dunham and
Lewis Felber. It is executive produced by Lena Dunham. So
if you were a fan of.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Girls, which both of us were.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Which was you know, Lena Dunham's coming of a coming
of age story, Yeah, it's kind of got that same vibe.
So basically New York Jessica starts a new life in
London after a disastrous breakup and finds a new connection
with Felix.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I am so so excited. What's the guy who plays
Will Sharp?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And he Will Sharp, Will Sharp plays baback.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yes, Will Sharp is the hottest.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Person for saying that he's in and he's wearing like
bright orange lipstick and it really that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Would give me pick But then afterwards, okay, okay, okay,
but it was just the orange.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
It was like the orange lipstick that kind of it
wasn't for me. And then he got hotter. So too
Much is going to be airing on Netflix on the
tenth of July.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I'm so excited. I reckon, we should do a bradly
honest review.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I think we will too.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I think we will, and then maybe have a throwdown
with Taina.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
This would be a medical breakthrough that could save countless lives.
It comes from the largest dinosaurs on the planet.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Fortunately for us, all these species exist in one isolated place.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Can you do ready tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He's your guy.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
We're the best that moving things and people and then
out of places they shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Loop up towards Barbados avoid government patrol.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
But there aren't that many anymore, mysach. No one's dumb
enough to go where we're going.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
This island was the research facility for the original glastic park.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
We need DNA from the three biggest dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Do we have to get a sample from an egg day?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Suppose we couldry and get it from the parent, but
they're flying Carnival the F sixteen.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Should we go into Jurassic World?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Should we?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Tina, I don't know that I'm ready to.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Are you sure you didn't just like the film because
you left your umbrella in the cinema.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's played a part because I was so flabbergasted and
was into like the Sydney storms by the way, this
is the day where like it was like flooding and
like crazy winds. So like this movie like stole my
time in my life, but like also my umbrella.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
There's nothing worse than losing a good umbrella. So upsetting
you guys went to the premiere this week?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yes, we were very, very lucky, the two of us,
and I hate that we didn't sit next to each
other because this has been so much funny if we
were sitting next to each other. But the two of us,
as well as other mummy people, including Laura Brodnick, went
to go see Jurassic World. What's the slogan for it?
Jerassic World?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Like, what's it called?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, Jurassic World Rebirth, Jurassic World Rebirth. Yeah, so Jurassic
World World Rebirth. And if you've been a longtime listener
of this bill, you know that I really suck at
explaining movies and TV shows. I'm going to do my best.
But basically, Jurassic World Rebirth has a massive, massive cast.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Huge cast, like crazy Hollywood talent.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Who was your favorite in the whole cast?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
My favorite before or after I saw the movie? Great cast,
so obviously Scyletjnsen, Jonathan Bailey, Mahershla Ali like Oscar Winner
report friend, like amazing cast, really great, I was. I
was excited to see Marsheler. Yeah, I was pumped for.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
That and so brand new cast compared to the rest
of the Jurassic World franchise. No one in Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But it's a prequel right in the No, it's not
a prequel.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It's a sequel to the sequel.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
It's a sequel to the sequel.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So I thought it was a prequel. I thought it
was set before Jurassic Park.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
No no, no, no, no no no. So Jurassic World takes
place and during Jurassic World, there were some scientists on
a remote island who decided to expare a meant what
some of the dinosaurs do some cross breeding. So this
Jurassic World takes place around thirty years.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
After the last, after the first, after the first. Yeah,
it's a really weird timeline. So you're kind of right in.
There's a there's an element of prequel because the opening
scene is set before Jurassic World, Yes, which is Chris
Pratt Jurassic World. So this is the fourth Jurassic World,
but the opening scene is set a few years before
the Jurassic World with Chris Pratt. Yeah, and then it's
(07:39):
also taking place after the last Jurassic World, Yeah, also
had Chris Pratt.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So it starts off with but there's no Chris Pratt.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
But there is no Chris Pratt. And I never thought
i'd say it, but we maybe needed because.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
We maybe needed a Chris Pratt like character. But basically
it starts off with like this big explanation like where
it's taking place, and that all the dinosaurs have been
released but kind of misplaced.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I guess they're just like hanging out in the middle
of that.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
They all need the warm weather, right, So all the
dinosaurs are located on the equator and including on that
equator of dinosaurs is where like these experiment mental crossbreed
dinosaurs are also living.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yes, okay, so where is this throwdown going to start? Tina?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Should we start with you on what were your main
gripes with the movie.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I had so many gripes. I had more gripes than
I think.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's not a single non gripe.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, like I had all the gripes you could have.
But like you and I are very big Jurassic Park fans,
we were really excited about this. I also really loved
Jurassic World, even the last one, which was like just
about bugs, and I still had fun.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
So our number one movie on our letter box.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yes, it is our biggest movie. And I really went
in thinking like I'm gonna love this. And then the
opening scene happened and I was sitting next to Laura Brodnick,
and I like annoy her so much because I turned
to her and like slapped her. I was like, yeah,
this is great, and like the opening scene, I was like, yeah,
classic Jurassic really loving this, and then the movie started
and I just kept waiting to love it, like all
(08:59):
movie long. I was like, any minute now, I'm gonna
I'm going to turn around, I'm going to disagree with
the critics, and I'm gonna have a great time. But
I did not at any.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Point in time gripe number one.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Grip number one. Okay, so they actually filmed on location
in Thailand. Yeah, so obviously for any big Jurassic heads
out there, like me and m Vernham, the Originals were
mostly shot in Hawaii, but then this one they went
to Thailand, and so they like filmed on location. There's
really great set picks of all the actors, and yet
the entire thing you felt like you were like looking
at a green screen like this was like a Hollywood backlot,
(09:30):
is how I felt the whole time. And I think
that was a bit of a combination of like maybe
the CGI and the special effects and the color grating,
like something about every scene did not look real to me.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Because I actually really liked the film as a whole.
It was not my favorite Jurassic Park slash Jurassic World
film out of all them, was probably my least favorite,
but I still liked it because like all the films
are like up there for me, and this one was
like mid for me. Okay, So I still liked it.
Amongst other things I have watched. That's why I'm worth
the watch. That's why we can watch, because it is
(10:01):
my recommendation. But because Tina had such a visceral reaction
to the entire film, I was like, I have to
include your point of view because I I don't want
to tell everyone go watch this film, you'll love it.
But I think it's more go watch this film and
let me know who.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeh see who sided? You're arm Yes, like I thought
I would love it, and I just I've never hated
something so much, and normally I would still find it
good in a project and be like, go see it
make ater.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I've look.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I haven't seen the film yet, but I did see
a lot of the press tool because the press stow
has been amazing. Jonathan Bailey playing clarinet with the orchestra
like this cute little band. Have you seen that clip?
It's like my face. I've watched it like ten times.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It was so cute.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
I've played in an orchestra when I was eating. If
you could have told me at that age that one
day there was an opportunity to play with one hundred
and five piece orchestra at Abbey Road with Alexander Lesplank,
conducting both the John Williams score and also his own
incredible original score. Now it's not quite Brilliana, And.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
There's this very beautiful moment when the carry for Brea
by Chat and Bailey put his hand on one of
these Daniosaurus for the first time. You hear when it
(11:20):
comes in the movie as well. So Jonathan Bailey is
a clarinet player.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I guess I suppose I.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Think they thought it was did you you do give clarinet?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
VI UNJB should made up and play together.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I do not remember how to play clarinet at all.
I only played it in primary school. But yes I
did play clarinet. So when he was doing it in
the actual full orchestra, I was in a band like
band practice with kumba buns and stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
And I have a feeling he would have because the
music is John Williams. So I have a feeling that
the way he was playing it on that like little
social clip of him playing clarinet, you could tell that
he was hitting something deep. But this is a theme
like music that you would have played in school, So
he very much in what he was doing, and he
played that piece for his own theme in the movie.
(12:04):
There's a scene in particular that's actually quite wholesome and nice.
Maybe maybe that you do hear the theme come out,
so you do the kind of when.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And it is he does a phenomenal job. Macgrife is
not with Jonathan Bailey or his clarinet playing. What is
it with emotions?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Is it with his accent?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
It is a little bit like just let the man
be British, Like he's not charming when he tries to
be American, and like just let him be hot and British.
But no, it's with the dinosaurs.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
With the dinosaurs, I will say that what was disappointing
for me was I was interested in the storyline of
the crossbred dinosaurs because they did also alert to that
a bit. In the previous Jurassic World movies, you did
see them trying to make the scariest and the toughest
dinosaur because the t Rex isn't scary and tough enough.
(12:51):
But with this one, it was like all.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
The dinosaurs were a bit off.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
And I think because I leaned so hard, they had
to lean so hard into the CGI of that, because
you first have to make CGI dinosaurs, but then you
have to make CGI crossbread dinosaurs that the whole thing
just looks CGI. And I remember you were reminded me
that the original Jurassic Park films weren't CGI.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, so it was a mix of like they made
these massive animatronics and like there's all these amazing photos
from the set of the original with like the real
people and the scale of them to these fake dinosaurs
is massive. The t Rex was like this huge animatronic,
and then they added special effects on top, so it
was like very state of the art. And even Jurassic World,
where you know it's special effects and CGI, it still
feels like scary and you still feel like you're in
(13:35):
that world. But then something about this really like they
tried to lean a little bit into horror, and like
the monsters kind of came out looking a bit stranger
things but not good, and it just took it out a.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Little bit very like yeah, alieny and Yeah. I think
what the other Jurassic Park and Jurassic World movies did
really well is that you kind of know the dinosaurs,
and the dinosaurs, you know, are either like your friends
or they're like final boss and with this movie, it
was just like five final bosses it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Just like they just kept coming from different places, and
I was like, who if anyone?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
It's also mean, it's so scary, and we know from
Jurassic Park that not all dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I mean it's scary.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Not The one clip I've seen is he's got the
brontosaurs and he's patting.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
The less not even a brontosaurus. It's a weird They're
all so weird. I do think that's part of it,
is like like you said, like in the kind of
lead up Jurassic World films, there's this running thing of like,
you know, dinosaurs aren't fun anymore, They're not exciting anymore.
So like in this fictional world, humans have grown sick
of them. But like you've now given us a movie
where you didn't give us any dinosaurs, and I didn't
(14:41):
like it, Like you kind of fulfilled out yourselves by
being like humans would be sick of the raptors and
then you like didn't give me a raptor in a
Jurassic World movie. I didn't see one, Like what, I
was mad?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You were mad. There was one scene though that I
really enjoyed, and it was the t Rex scene.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I have feelings, okay, because can I just say, can
I just say?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And I am so happy I did this. It made
me feel so smart and put together, like I'm going
to be riding this high for the rest of my life.
But before we went into the city, them up, but
our producer Mons was definitely there, and I said, I
watched this Walking with Dinosaurs documentary that was like narrated
by David Abra And one of the things that people
don't know is that t rexis could actually swim, like
(15:23):
they would swim from Ireland to Ireland, and they can
hold their breath and they can swim. And I was like,
it would have been cool if like we had a
dressic Park movie where we saw that, and we saw.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That, and we did see that, and they give away
a lot in the trailer, so we're not doing spoilers. Yeah,
incredible scene. That was probably the best scene in the film.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So good.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But I think it was a good example of where
they tried to like go horror at times and then
like suddenly they were doing a family friendly film.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Like I was never actually worried anyone was going to
get chomped up. I think I was never really thinking,
like you who's going to die? You knew who was
going to die. You knew how they were going to
die and you were not surprised.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, all, Like, yeah, you could guess right from the
beginning film. There's about like ten characters. You know exactly
which ones are going to be gone.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Okay, So in terms of a weekend watch, this is
very different for us. But it's almost like one of
those movies that you have to go see for yourself.
You still should go see this movie in the cinema.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So I get.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I thought it was the scariest one out of all
of them. Like, it's not like creepy scary, like the
stalk orrish behavior we saw with the other Durassic plucks.
It's very like jump scary scary, which is my worst
type of scary. Because I feel like exactly what you said.
I'm not sure who they were trying to market this
film too, whether it's for like families with like young kids,
or whether it's for die hard Jurassic Park fans not Tina,
(16:39):
not me, But I found it quite scary, and I
was telling all the girls I'm on me that if
you have kids, like I did, find it scary.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I don't think a child no sa film, no, not
at all. But then they also like went really childish
in some parts, So it's very strange.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, it's very Maybe there could be like a different cut,
Maybe we should.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Maybe we should make a cut. I would love to
see them. I want the raw footage, the raw I
want to see what I could have made myself, because like,
they spent one hundred and eighty million dollars on this thing,
and I just feel like it they like rushed and
produced out something that didn't make the most.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
It's just like one thing that you feel like they
could have done to make it better for you.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
For me, I think they tried to jam too many
niche Like a few critics have said that it's like
a love letter to Fielberg, And there were a lot
of obviously you would recognize like little references here and there,
and like scenes that they tried to put in to
be like ah, remember this, like remember this moment, and
it just was too much. Like it would have been
nice to see them do some like authentic things that
fell new, like I think the Jurassic World with Chris Pratt.
(17:35):
There were just so many things that we didn't expect. Yeah,
because like we've never seen this type of world before,
and so it did really just feel like it was
trying to copy the original but with scary different types
of dinosaurs, yeah, rather than give us something new. But
like I think the plot maybe there's one scene where
they're on the boat and they try to bring in
like a backstory for Scarlet Johnson and herscheler Ali, and
(17:57):
like suddenly we're sad and we have this backstory and
you can tell the only reason that it's in there
is so that later on there's going to be a
scene and you're going to watch that scene and you're
going to go, oh, that was his motivation.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Right, Yeah, that's why Chekhov's gone.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's why n made this decision.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Also just plays Black Widow.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
She does.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's her whole character. So if you miss Black Widow
as a Marvel fan, you'll get.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Her in this film. See this film. She's back.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I will say that this film, though, out of all
of them, in my opinion, felt the most adventurous, like
they were on a big adventurer where all the other
films took place either in the park or at like
a manor I'm pretty sure one of them so they
stick to one, okay, but this one just like a
lot of traveling. Like you get ocean dinosaurs, you get
land dinosaurs, you get sky dinosaurs.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Okay, because you're right, is it's everything's usually like a
Latin island.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, but this one it's like they're going everywhere.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, there is an adventure. The New York part was fun. Yeah,
I had a good time.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Tina took an adventure right out of cinema.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Okay, so it's out now in cinemas.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yes, it's out now in cinemas. I want everyone to
watch it and let us know who you agree with.
I feel like we ended up being having the same opinion.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
We had a similar vibe. Like the thing is I
wanted to love this year is so bad and I
actually want people to go see it so they can
make another one and they can go back to their budget.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
And I think that's also the pitfall of the franchise,
right as It's like if this was a standalone movie,
I think it would have been like great.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You could have taken this cast, this vibe and just
like it could have been out of space. Yeah, like yeah,
this wasn't a Jurassic movie. It was just a movie.
It could have been fine, but not as part of
the franchise with like that weight of expectation.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Oh my gosh, Spillers, give it a watch. Let us
know what you think you can dm us on the
Spill podcast. Let us know whose side you're on. I
feel like everyone's gonna be anteen onside because.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm scared no one will be. People at work loved it.
One of the girls said it was the best movie
she's seen all year.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
She said.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I actually didn't speak to her for the rest of
the day. I can't sorry too much.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today.
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Speaker 1 (20:23):
MHM
So you're listening to Amma Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hello and welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fix.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm m Burnham and I'm Cassenni Luki Tim. We've got
a special guest.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
A special guest entertainment writer and head of social.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Is that you pop culture and social editor. We almost
got there, We almost did. Hi, I'm Tina Burke.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Tina Burke is in the house because on the show today,
we're doing week and watch a bit differently because my
weekend watch was suddenly interrupted by a very scandalous article
that went live on Mom and Mia. So my weekend
watch is going to involve a bit of a throwdown
with Tina Burke.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm going to be mediating because I haven't seen the
that you're talking about. But before we get into it,
we are going to go into a full Jurassic World
rundown between.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
The two of you.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah yeah, But before we do that, I do just
want to kind of give a PSA to everybody about
too much.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
What's too much?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
We're all too much?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Just something has shifted with you.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Josh Hi, how are you girl? Or you could you're unhappy?
Leave me me. It's the worst thing everyone's ever die.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Change your life. Go to London, seriously, you love London
us the Spice World nine times in the theater.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I could do it. I could go and find my
English dream.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You know, a state ground starting gardens.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Good luck with that. Love one of them.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You're the singing guy.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
By the way, You've got like an American accent.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Right, let me guess you like one of those love Actually, girls.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
This is London. I came here for I out of
a movie.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, horror movie.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
These people are full of pent uprage and dark secrets.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I know. Would look at the Yellow House. I came
here to find myself. A lot of stuff went down
in New York. My ex boyfriend is living with another
woman right now. Yeah, I want you to cut their
heads off and sew them back on.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Looking in a big blue eyes.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Is he who he says he is?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
This is all just man here.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
He's of red flex.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You think you're so special.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I get that it's hard for you, but like it's
hard for fucking everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, I wanted to be in bed with like a
few grant from the British Jones Diaries.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Would you say British Jones Now there's four of them. Yeah,
it's not cooled. British Jones's British so too much? Is
the new Netflix series by Lena Dunna.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yes, I am very very excited about this.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Okay, So there's been a lot of chat about this.
It's going to air on the tenth of July on Netflix.
This is kind of basically just me showing off. Oh wy,
I've already seen it.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You've already seen it.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, okay, I'm not like to say whether it's good
or bad. I have already seen it.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
There's embargo, but it was created by Lena Dunham and
Lewis Felber. It is executive produced by Lena Dunham. So
if you were a fan of.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Girls, which both of us were.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Which was you know, Lena Dunham's coming of a coming
of age story, Yeah, it's kind of got that same vibe.
So basically New York Jessica starts a new life in
London after a disastrous breakup and finds a new connection
with Felix.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I am so so excited. What's the guy who plays
Will Sharp?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And he Will Sharp, Will Sharp plays baback.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yes, Will Sharp is the hottest.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Person for saying that he's in and he's wearing like
bright orange lipstick and it really that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Would give me pick But then afterwards, okay, okay, okay,
but it was just the orange.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
It was like the orange lipstick that kind of it
wasn't for me. And then he got hotter. So too
Much is going to be airing on Netflix on the
tenth of July.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I'm so excited. I reckon, we should do a bradly
honest review.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I think we will too.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I think we will, and then maybe have a throwdown
with Taina.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
This would be a medical breakthrough that could save countless lives.
It comes from the largest dinosaurs on the planet.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Fortunately for us, all these species exist in one isolated place.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Can you do ready tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He's your guy.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
We're the best that moving things and people and then
out of places they shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Loop up towards Barbados avoid government patrol.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
But there aren't that many anymore, mysach. No one's dumb
enough to go where we're going.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
This island was the research facility for the original glastic park.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
We need DNA from the three biggest dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Do we have to get a sample from an egg day?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Suppose we couldry and get it from the parent, but
they're flying Carnival the F sixteen.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Should we go into Jurassic World?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Should we?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Tina, I don't know that I'm ready to.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Are you sure you didn't just like the film because
you left your umbrella in the cinema.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's played a part because I was so flabbergasted and
was into like the Sydney storms by the way, this
is the day where like it was like flooding and
like crazy winds. So like this movie like stole my
time in my life, but like also my umbrella.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
There's nothing worse than losing a good umbrella. So upsetting
you guys went to the premiere this week?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yes, we were very, very lucky, the two of us,
and I hate that we didn't sit next to each
other because this has been so much funny if we
were sitting next to each other. But the two of us,
as well as other mummy people, including Laura Brodnick, went
to go see Jurassic World. What's the slogan for it?
Jerassic World?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Like, what's it called?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, Jurassic World Rebirth, Jurassic World Rebirth. Yeah, so Jurassic
World World Rebirth. And if you've been a longtime listener
of this bill, you know that I really suck at
explaining movies and TV shows. I'm going to do my best.
But basically, Jurassic World Rebirth has a massive, massive cast.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Huge cast, like crazy Hollywood talent.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Who was your favorite in the whole cast?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
My favorite before or after I saw the movie? Great cast,
so obviously Scyletjnsen, Jonathan Bailey, Mahershla Ali like Oscar Winner
report friend, like amazing cast, really great, I was. I
was excited to see Marsheler. Yeah, I was pumped for.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
That and so brand new cast compared to the rest
of the Jurassic World franchise. No one in Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But it's a prequel right in the No, it's not
a prequel.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It's a sequel to the sequel.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
It's a sequel to the sequel.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So I thought it was a prequel. I thought it
was set before Jurassic Park.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
No no, no, no, no no no. So Jurassic World takes
place and during Jurassic World, there were some scientists on
a remote island who decided to expare a meant what
some of the dinosaurs do some cross breeding. So this
Jurassic World takes place around thirty years.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
After the last, after the first, after the first. Yeah,
it's a really weird timeline. So you're kind of right in.
There's a there's an element of prequel because the opening
scene is set before Jurassic World, Yes, which is Chris
Pratt Jurassic World. So this is the fourth Jurassic World,
but the opening scene is set a few years before
the Jurassic World with Chris Pratt. Yeah, and then it's
(07:39):
also taking place after the last Jurassic World, Yeah, also
had Chris Pratt.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So it starts off with but there's no Chris Pratt.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
But there is no Chris Pratt. And I never thought
i'd say it, but we maybe needed because.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
We maybe needed a Chris Pratt like character. But basically
it starts off with like this big explanation like where
it's taking place, and that all the dinosaurs have been
released but kind of misplaced.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I guess they're just like hanging out in the middle
of that.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
They all need the warm weather, right, So all the
dinosaurs are located on the equator and including on that
equator of dinosaurs is where like these experiment mental crossbreed
dinosaurs are also living.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yes, okay, so where is this throwdown going to start? Tina?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Should we start with you on what were your main
gripes with the movie.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I had so many gripes. I had more gripes than
I think.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's not a single non gripe.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, like I had all the gripes you could have.
But like you and I are very big Jurassic Park fans,
we were really excited about this. I also really loved
Jurassic World, even the last one, which was like just
about bugs, and I still had fun.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
So our number one movie on our letter box.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yes, it is our biggest movie. And I really went
in thinking like I'm gonna love this. And then the
opening scene happened and I was sitting next to Laura Brodnick,
and I like annoy her so much because I turned
to her and like slapped her. I was like, yeah,
this is great, and like the opening scene, I was like, yeah,
classic Jurassic really loving this, and then the movie started
and I just kept waiting to love it, like all
(08:59):
movie long. I was like, any minute now, I'm gonna
I'm going to turn around, I'm going to disagree with
the critics, and I'm gonna have a great time. But
I did not at any.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Point in time gripe number one.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Grip number one. Okay, so they actually filmed on location
in Thailand. Yeah, so obviously for any big Jurassic heads
out there, like me and m Vernham, the Originals were
mostly shot in Hawaii, but then this one they went
to Thailand, and so they like filmed on location. There's
really great set picks of all the actors, and yet
the entire thing you felt like you were like looking
at a green screen like this was like a Hollywood backlot,
(09:30):
is how I felt the whole time. And I think
that was a bit of a combination of like maybe
the CGI and the special effects and the color grating,
like something about every scene did not look real to me.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Because I actually really liked the film as a whole.
It was not my favorite Jurassic Park slash Jurassic World
film out of all them, was probably my least favorite,
but I still liked it because like all the films
are like up there for me, and this one was
like mid for me. Okay, So I still liked it.
Amongst other things I have watched. That's why I'm worth
the watch. That's why we can watch, because it is
(10:01):
my recommendation. But because Tina had such a visceral reaction
to the entire film, I was like, I have to
include your point of view because I I don't want
to tell everyone go watch this film, you'll love it.
But I think it's more go watch this film and
let me know who.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeh see who sided? You're arm Yes, like I thought
I would love it, and I just I've never hated
something so much, and normally I would still find it
good in a project and be like, go see it
make ater.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I've look.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I haven't seen the film yet, but I did see
a lot of the press tool because the press stow
has been amazing. Jonathan Bailey playing clarinet with the orchestra
like this cute little band. Have you seen that clip?
It's like my face. I've watched it like ten times.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It was so cute.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
I've played in an orchestra when I was eating. If
you could have told me at that age that one
day there was an opportunity to play with one hundred
and five piece orchestra at Abbey Road with Alexander Lesplank,
conducting both the John Williams score and also his own
incredible original score. Now it's not quite Brilliana, And.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
There's this very beautiful moment when the carry for Brea
by Chat and Bailey put his hand on one of
these Daniosaurus for the first time. You hear when it
(11:20):
comes in the movie as well. So Jonathan Bailey is
a clarinet player.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I guess I suppose I.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Think they thought it was did you you do give clarinet?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
VI UNJB should made up and play together.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I do not remember how to play clarinet at all.
I only played it in primary school. But yes I
did play clarinet. So when he was doing it in
the actual full orchestra, I was in a band like
band practice with kumba buns and stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
And I have a feeling he would have because the
music is John Williams. So I have a feeling that
the way he was playing it on that like little
social clip of him playing clarinet, you could tell that
he was hitting something deep. But this is a theme
like music that you would have played in school, So
he very much in what he was doing, and he
played that piece for his own theme in the movie.
(12:04):
There's a scene in particular that's actually quite wholesome and nice.
Maybe maybe that you do hear the theme come out,
so you do the kind of when.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And it is he does a phenomenal job. Macgrife is
not with Jonathan Bailey or his clarinet playing. What is
it with emotions?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Is it with his accent?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
It is a little bit like just let the man
be British, Like he's not charming when he tries to
be American, and like just let him be hot and British.
But no, it's with the dinosaurs.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
With the dinosaurs, I will say that what was disappointing
for me was I was interested in the storyline of
the crossbred dinosaurs because they did also alert to that
a bit. In the previous Jurassic World movies, you did
see them trying to make the scariest and the toughest
dinosaur because the t Rex isn't scary and tough enough.
(12:51):
But with this one, it was like all.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
The dinosaurs were a bit off.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
And I think because I leaned so hard, they had
to lean so hard into the CGI of that, because
you first have to make CGI dinosaurs, but then you
have to make CGI crossbread dinosaurs that the whole thing
just looks CGI. And I remember you were reminded me
that the original Jurassic Park films weren't CGI.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, so it was a mix of like they made
these massive animatronics and like there's all these amazing photos
from the set of the original with like the real
people and the scale of them to these fake dinosaurs
is massive. The t Rex was like this huge animatronic,
and then they added special effects on top, so it
was like very state of the art. And even Jurassic World,
where you know it's special effects and CGI, it still
feels like scary and you still feel like you're in
(13:35):
that world. But then something about this really like they
tried to lean a little bit into horror, and like
the monsters kind of came out looking a bit stranger
things but not good, and it just took it out a.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Little bit very like yeah, alieny and Yeah. I think
what the other Jurassic Park and Jurassic World movies did
really well is that you kind of know the dinosaurs,
and the dinosaurs, you know, are either like your friends
or they're like final boss and with this movie, it
was just like five final bosses it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Just like they just kept coming from different places, and
I was like, who if anyone?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
It's also mean, it's so scary, and we know from
Jurassic Park that not all dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I mean it's scary.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Not The one clip I've seen is he's got the
brontosaurs and he's patting.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
The less not even a brontosaurus. It's a weird They're
all so weird. I do think that's part of it,
is like like you said, like in the kind of
lead up Jurassic World films, there's this running thing of like,
you know, dinosaurs aren't fun anymore, They're not exciting anymore.
So like in this fictional world, humans have grown sick
of them. But like you've now given us a movie
where you didn't give us any dinosaurs, and I didn't
(14:41):
like it, Like you kind of fulfilled out yourselves by
being like humans would be sick of the raptors and
then you like didn't give me a raptor in a
Jurassic World movie. I didn't see one, Like what, I
was mad?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You were mad. There was one scene though that I
really enjoyed, and it was the t Rex scene.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I have feelings, okay, because can I just say, can
I just say?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And I am so happy I did this. It made
me feel so smart and put together, like I'm going
to be riding this high for the rest of my life.
But before we went into the city, them up, but
our producer Mons was definitely there, and I said, I
watched this Walking with Dinosaurs documentary that was like narrated
by David Abra And one of the things that people
don't know is that t rexis could actually swim, like
(15:23):
they would swim from Ireland to Ireland, and they can
hold their breath and they can swim. And I was like,
it would have been cool if like we had a
dressic Park movie where we saw that, and we saw.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That, and we did see that, and they give away
a lot in the trailer, so we're not doing spoilers. Yeah,
incredible scene. That was probably the best scene in the film.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So good.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But I think it was a good example of where
they tried to like go horror at times and then
like suddenly they were doing a family friendly film.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Like I was never actually worried anyone was going to
get chomped up. I think I was never really thinking,
like you who's going to die? You knew who was
going to die. You knew how they were going to
die and you were not surprised.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, all, Like, yeah, you could guess right from the
beginning film. There's about like ten characters. You know exactly
which ones are going to be gone.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Okay, So in terms of a weekend watch, this is
very different for us. But it's almost like one of
those movies that you have to go see for yourself.
You still should go see this movie in the cinema.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So I get.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I thought it was the scariest one out of all
of them. Like, it's not like creepy scary, like the
stalk orrish behavior we saw with the other Durassic plucks.
It's very like jump scary scary, which is my worst
type of scary. Because I feel like exactly what you said.
I'm not sure who they were trying to market this
film too, whether it's for like families with like young kids,
or whether it's for die hard Jurassic Park fans not Tina,
(16:39):
not me, But I found it quite scary, and I
was telling all the girls I'm on me that if
you have kids, like I did, find it scary.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I don't think a child no sa film, no, not
at all. But then they also like went really childish
in some parts, So it's very strange.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, it's very Maybe there could be like a different cut,
Maybe we should.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Maybe we should make a cut. I would love to
see them. I want the raw footage, the raw I
want to see what I could have made myself, because like,
they spent one hundred and eighty million dollars on this thing,
and I just feel like it they like rushed and
produced out something that didn't make the most.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
It's just like one thing that you feel like they
could have done to make it better for you.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
For me, I think they tried to jam too many
niche Like a few critics have said that it's like
a love letter to Fielberg, And there were a lot
of obviously you would recognize like little references here and there,
and like scenes that they tried to put in to
be like ah, remember this, like remember this moment, and
it just was too much. Like it would have been
nice to see them do some like authentic things that
fell new, like I think the Jurassic World with Chris Pratt.
(17:35):
There were just so many things that we didn't expect. Yeah,
because like we've never seen this type of world before,
and so it did really just feel like it was
trying to copy the original but with scary different types
of dinosaurs, yeah, rather than give us something new. But
like I think the plot maybe there's one scene where
they're on the boat and they try to bring in
like a backstory for Scarlet Johnson and herscheler Ali, and
(17:57):
like suddenly we're sad and we have this backstory and
you can tell the only reason that it's in there
is so that later on there's going to be a
scene and you're going to watch that scene and you're
going to go, oh, that was his motivation.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Right, Yeah, that's why Chekhov's gone.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's why n made this decision.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Also just plays Black Widow.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
She does.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's her whole character. So if you miss Black Widow
as a Marvel fan, you'll get.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Her in this film. See this film. She's back.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I will say that this film, though, out of all
of them, in my opinion, felt the most adventurous, like
they were on a big adventurer where all the other
films took place either in the park or at like
a manor I'm pretty sure one of them so they
stick to one, okay, but this one just like a
lot of traveling. Like you get ocean dinosaurs, you get
land dinosaurs, you get sky dinosaurs.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Okay, because you're right, is it's everything's usually like a
Latin island.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, but this one it's like they're going everywhere.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, there is an adventure. The New York part was fun. Yeah,
I had a good time.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Tina took an adventure right out of cinema.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Okay, so it's out now in cinemas.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yes, it's out now in cinemas. I want everyone to
watch it and let us know who you agree with.
I feel like we ended up being having the same opinion.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
We had a similar vibe. Like the thing is I
wanted to love this year is so bad and I
actually want people to go see it so they can
make another one and they can go back to their budget.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
And I think that's also the pitfall of the franchise,
right as It's like if this was a standalone movie,
I think it would have been like great.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You could have taken this cast, this vibe and just
like it could have been out of space. Yeah, like yeah,
this wasn't a Jurassic movie. It was just a movie.
It could have been fine, but not as part of
the franchise with like that weight of expectation.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Oh my gosh, Spillers, give it a watch. Let us
know what you think you can dm us on the
Spill podcast. Let us know whose side you're on. I
feel like everyone's gonna be anteen onside because.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm scared no one will be. People at work loved it.
One of the girls said it was the best movie
she's seen all year.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
She said.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I actually didn't speak to her for the rest of
the day. I can't sorry too much.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today.
If you love listening to us, make sure you follow
us on TikTok at the Spill podcast. MoMA mea Studio
is a style of furniture from Fentin and Fentin. Visit
Fentin and Fentin dot com. Are you and We'll be
back here in your podcast feed at three pm today.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Bye bye bye
Speaker 1 (20:23):
MHM
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