June 5, 2024 • 35 mins
In this week's episode Tilly and Marley discuss memories from their own O.G. style childhoods (featuring switch-boarding houses and weeing on people from trees) VS the current experience of childhood that today's kids are experiencing. They talk about how the technological era we're living in is shaping the lives of today's children - for better or for worse...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, before we start this podcast, we were just like
to acknowledge that we are very privileged to be safe
where we are. What's happening in Gaza is really devastating
and confronting to be watching. We acknowledge we are so
lucky to live in a country that is safe. Please,
if you're able to help, we are leaving a few
links in the show notes. Thanks. Guys.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Life is an endless series of train wrecks with only
brief commercial like breaks of happiness gang till Hello, Hello, Hello. Wait.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I wanted to say something, but I had to entertain already.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, I know you're already. You're already, You're already tolling
that line.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Are you gang? And then it starts with a B,
so that of course. Yeah? How is everyone?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Everyone is great? Are you talking to me, Grace or
the people that are.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Listening to everyone in the podcast?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, I will speak for them as well. I think
the people are doing great too. I think all of
us are doing great.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Okay, Marley, tell me what you've been up to this
last week?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Okay, you know what? We have?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Anything interesting?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So I do, I do. I was out in the
city yesterday with Lynn and.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And you send me a cool shirt.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes, so this was just after sending you that cool
shirt that we will not repeat on this podcast. So
we just we're at these lights about to cross and
I see this dog in this guy's backpack with glasses on,
and I'm like, oh my god, you should try this.
Can you try this with one of your puppy dog backpacks?
The dog package?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
How weird do you think? I am?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I would have won one hundred percent take my dog
on a bike, But there was a cute little Corgie
in the back of this guy's backpack with glasses on,
and I'm like, how is he keeping his glasses on?
And he rides by and then turns out this dog
is freaking' Instagram and TikTok famous four point two million followers.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
This is so weird because what I'm about to tell
you is a dog.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Story too great. Well, Mad Max, wait, did you film?
I took a photo?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
We'll show you all, Mad Max Fury wrong, Yes, and
you just and I went to that premiere and now
I'm talking about a premiere from last night.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So connected, let's go. So that was that's my week.
That's the highlight of my week. Was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, well, the highlight of my week was also a dog.
So we went to like this Binge premiere last night
for this series called Colin from Accounts and basically the
main star of the show is a dog. Is it
Australian TV?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And we want the dog Australian TV series.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The dog does not talk, Okay, it's just a dog. However,
the rightiest, scruffiest thing you've ever seen. Imagine like a
pound ratty dog. But so all the actors just like
they're not very well carpet trained, Like you can tell
that they're Aussie actors because when they're when they're on
(02:51):
the red carpet, they're like doing those things where girls
put their legs up and around.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Each other, like oh my gosh, you.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Know, and like that was my in around and I
was like.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Are you saying it's just inappropriate.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Because like no, no, no, just like on the normal
red carpet events like with Chris Hemsworth.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Or whoever, you got to look well put together.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, they're like very proper, and like they've got publicists
there telling them to do that. And I couldn't hear
the publicists in the background, and they were like, let's
let's get a move on. Let's get a move on,
because it was like anyway, so funny because the cast
all had to go on the red carpet and then
the dog, the famous dog, got a whole owned seat
(03:32):
and media wall the dog was. Instead of going to
the media wall, we went over to the media seat
with the dog and got photos with the dog.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Wait, have you got photos of the dog?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yes, I'll show please. You know when dogs wear those
like tuxedos.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Oh, had a little bow tie or something on? Yes,
you didn't tell me this? Yeah, I can, I can,
I can. That's cud.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
That's actually like a way more normal looking dog than
I was expecting.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh really, yeah a little.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I expected, like, I don't know, to have some like
gelled mohawk or like something that made it stick out
from the crowd. Because how do you feel about dogs
being famous?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
How No, I I love it.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm just like, Wow, there's a dog riding in the
back of a bicycle that you saw, Maley that has
four point two million followers and literally has like probably
a billion times my net worth.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And I'm true, actually.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
There is like I'm like you know what, it's pure
there is, but like a more moral what is it
called ethical issue there? I think like the dog had
to sit there and there was a lot of flashing
lights on it, and I had to like sit there
and like keep getting photos and like flash, flash flash,
And that's obviously Marley, I don't know, Gross knows this.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Are you going to bring it up?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I was like, that's exactly what I was think.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I have to say it, Sage. When we did our
podcast cover up, we gave my dog epilepsy.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Okay, let's not hold on hold the phone.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
We did, Marley, how else did it happen? It triggered
the epilepsy the photo shoot, obviously not intentionally, and we
took her home and she was very well cared for
and she's now on medication. Oh yeah, it's actually not funny.
I'm not laughing.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No, no, no, no, no, of course, not like the album
or whatever we call it podcasts. We've got cover album,
we've got an album because we're joining your band, Grease Tink.
We were holding Tink in that position like for a
long it was probably like an hour long shoot that
we were having right till and after the shoot Tink
(05:45):
started like shaking in her create. I'm like, what's going on?
Maybe she's just tired or it was.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
A blessing actually, because otherwise we wouldn't have known she
had epilepsy and she would have just died at home.
So true, that was really lucky. Yeah, Okay, Russ is
good to go.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
All right, let's call Russ and let him know what
we're talking about today.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, we're calling Ross every week to explain what's in
the episode.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Ross is Tilly's papa, Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
My father, and Grace is our producer.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Good morning, Chi, Hi dad, Okay, and he says, okay,
So today's episode I briefed you a bit earlier, is on, Yeah,
is basically on our childhood versus the iPad generation. Obviously
(06:35):
we grew up without technology, so we're going to just
discuss the kids these days versus how I guess your
generation as well grew up along with us because we
lack that technology.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
M Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Think that's a really really good area and a topic
to look at because I was thinking about when you
grew up, because really the iPad only just come in.
I think if your childhood go back to you being
wearing a little fairy dress your Bobby, dressing.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Willow and Peggy and taking them for.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Wa dressing our dogs up.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, shooting the friends and the friends of Penny with
Chilly and your little pony, pushing your prim rams. Yes,
so much fun, which kids will lack they don't their
eyes or all.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, it's really sad. Yes, So that's what we're going
to discuss.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
That it's going to be wonderfully good.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
All right, Thanks sad conference.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Thanks. Ross is a huge part of this podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
But he's so much about like spreading, like doing things
for the right reason, and that's why we are going
to start discussing topics that are meaningful, for example, the
use of technology among children, because I think, I mean,
if you have a platform, you should be talking about
things that are relevant and hopefully can change people's lives.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Damn, tell, you've just changed completely over the last good.
What's happening, Marley and I had to talk.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I've grown up about twenty years.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Do you think so?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah? I don't know, but that's good. You're right.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Events in recent would say otherwise, we'll see how the
next twenty minutes go.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's not hold hold our
breath here, Grace nineteen ninety seven to twenty twelve are
apparently gen z is and millennials, which would be me
in nineteen eighty one to nineteen ninety six, apparently, So
tell your gen Z then, So you're low key in
(08:34):
iPad person, aren't gen z is? The iPad is?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I think you're on the carcuse Alpha.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Some refer to the iPad generation as gen Z, but
I'm pretty sure the iPad generation is more like Generation Alpha,
and that was those who were born between twenty ten
and twenty twenty four, the year we're in right now.
But they're the kids, they're the current babies being.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
These are the iPad These are the ipadders. So yeah,
your childhood till so you because like my childhood growing up,
I would be outside all the time, like, especially outside
of school hours. All the time I was outside, right
and even when we were at school, like we were
rarely ever in front of any technology.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Dude, And remember computer lessons, computer lessons for the best
day of the way. It was like a Thursday afternoon
and you'd go on and you'd learn word art, you'd
play that do you.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Remember that typing game game? Yeah, typing game that taught
you how to like use the keyboard. That that was
super super dope. But outside of that, like I I
don't think I got a phone until probably year seven,
when did you get your first phone? Till? And the
issue is what kind of phone was it? Because I
had a completely different phone to probably what you had.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
But did you get an iPod Touch first? I did?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yes, I did. I love everyone got an eye That
was the best thing ever.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I remember vividly on a Friday after noon, Mom picked
us up from school and I was like, oh my god,
did you get it? And she like had that glass
It came in that glass case, that plastic case. Security
is that it was this blue iPod Touch and I
was so skinny.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I thought touches were so cat because it was literally
an iPhone without the cellular duty. It was like, what
was the purpose of that?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's perfect for like not wanting to give a kid
a phone, but like allowing them to have like an
hour's technology time before bed.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I think that's all right, But that's the same as
an iPad then.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
But what they do on the iPads now is what's
of concern to me. Like they're using them basically as phones.
The messenger kids the social media.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Like when I think of iPad kids, I don't think
about them like getting onto social media. I just think
that they're consuming that iPad like all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yea one percent, but a lot of them. Most of
them are on TikTok. Pretty much every kid at my
work follows me.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Wait, okay, that's wild, because Tilly, you work in childcare, right, So, like,
how old are those.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Kids, like anywhere from like five years old to no.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Okay, they're all on social media.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, okay, if you're five years old and you have
TikTok or Instagram and stuff like, that's got to be
a parental issue at that point, right. I Mean I'm
not a parent, but like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I think it is a comment on your parenting though,
because when I was younger, my dad was very strict. First,
when everyone else got I pods, like I was only
allowed I got. My dad bought me a mini computer,
and instead of like being able to go on all
those group chats and on social media and stuff, I
could still somewhat engage with like my friends that were
(11:46):
on Facebook, but like that was the extent of it.
I couldn't use tick and scroll through? What was it called?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So? Did you just call it tick? Ok?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Kickkick?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Wait? Did you start off at Facebook? You never had MySpace?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
No? We never.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I don't know about my line you wait, Grace, did
you have MySpace?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I missed the boat and I'm so sad about it.
Every time anyone who ever had it tells me about it,
I'm like, that sounds like it would have been my jam.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It was the best eraror I'll tell you what was
so so stressful about MySpace though, is you had like
a top you had like a top friends, and you
could like set like a top three, top five or
top ten friends, right, and like you'd have like your
best friend as number one, as number two, your next,
and so on and so forth. But like when you
would change that, this would like end friendships and relationships.
(12:31):
When you changed your tops, we called it our tops chat. Yes,
it's literally like that. And you had music on there,
and you could like make a theme of your page
and you could.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Like, wait, where did this go?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Or did you tell you what it was all about?
It's all about likes now, and back then it was
all about comments. No one cared about likes. Your picture
would have no likes, but if you had comments under
your photo, you were like lit.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, people knew about engagement from day one.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Literally, what happened to MySpace now? Is that still a thing?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think my Space started. I'm pretty sure that it's
a graveyard site now.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Facebook definitely came in and like replaced it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, yeah Facebook.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I was ten years old when I got Facebook. Really yeah,
but that's when I that age. No, everyone had that age,
and it was very different to how you're.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Think about Aleah having Facebook right now. Actually that's you
know what's crazy is Aleiah does have Facebook. We message
on Facebook Messenger all the time. She doesn't have Facebook,
she has a Messengers. Yeah, yeah, Alias Alia's my goddaughter,
that's my little cousin.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Well, yeah, I had Facebook and you just post the
most random stuff, Like you'd post your holiday in London
and you post some photos but they'd be taken on.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Well I went to London when I lived in Malaysia.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
From Malaysia, got you got.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You because mum worked there. Also, wait, just while we're
on the topic of Facebook, in year eleven, there was
this trend going oh years ten, there was this trend
going around, and you'd post on your Facebook like smash
or dash yeah yeah, and like everyone would like comment,
like their name to see what you'd reply back, so
you'd either reply smash or dash back. And I had
(14:11):
this whole like like a hot or not come yeah yeah,
And I had I had a boyfriend that i'd had
for like years, like since year eight, so it would
have been my third year of dating him, and he
posted a smash or dash thing and this girl that
he always talked about, Layla, her name was.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
He comments, you're getting absolutely slammed right.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Now, Layla. I don't even know the last name. I
don't even remember anymore. But Layla commented on this my
boyfriend's thing, and he goes, smash come up without a doubt.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Wait he said that, or she said that he.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Said that about her, and I remember and he was
fully gas light me. He's like, no, it's like it's
not a big deal, Like I'm just you know, it's
just a Facebook trend. And I was like, are you
kidding me? Smashed without a.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Doubt, dude, nah nah.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
That's why when you're saying MySpace ended relationships face, I.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Think just social media in general, this was you said,
this was high school, right, your ten. Yeah, we didn't
have Instagram or anything like that in high school. Like
my high school would have been so much different than
your high school. I feel we actually had to like
talk to people, like if you like had a crush
on someone or wanted to talk to someone like you knew.
(15:38):
I guess we had MSN. Do you remember MSN? But
like talking.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
We're in the.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Age group that's like just on the cutoff.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, we'd have to come back to school the next
day and then literally just talk to them in person,
like actually learn how to talk to people. I feel
like your generation maybe just relied on like speaking over
the phone or messaging and stuff rather than actually talking
in person, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
In year six, I had like my first boyfriend, which
obviously wasn't a boyfriend, but it was at the time.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
We never spoke in person, but over text we would
say I love you, like I love you baby, I
love you baby, hey baby, how are you and literally
all this stuff, and he'd be like, do you want
to go to formal with me? And stuff, But we
would never speak in person. Ever, you see each other
(16:35):
in person, see each other guy in contact just smile,
didn't speak.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I'm the same.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Why do you think I got Facebook? It was to
talk to a boy, Yes, boy, and I had to
get it. I had to get it in secret because
mom and dad same as you two. They were really
strict on Like I didn't get a phone till I
was like fifteen.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I didn't get there.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You go hearing that.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I feel for our parents, like, because how did they
this was new to them? Like they didn't. They were
only doing what they thought was best for us. We
were we were thinking we're missing out, but in reality,
we're growing with it as they were growing with it.
It was the same for everyone experiencing this social media
and all these new apps and whatnot. They had no
(17:17):
idea what was best for us.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
See you talking about apps?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Hold on, hold on, you're talking about All I had
was damn snake on my phone, like a Motorola flip
phone bro where I had to pay for like five
dollars credit to textext.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Oh yeah, I did have to pay for credit at once.
It's like when I was in year seventies, I was
paying for credit or no no on on a wild
little phone.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Taste of that, thank you, but then you'd.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Go home to your iPod. Yes, yeah, so you had
at home. So you have Wi Fi at home? Correct,
Wi Fi at home, and then you have a little
phone like a flip phone or something for school.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Okay, So what do you think about like in terms
of your like the that you have of your childhood
and what childhoods look like now.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Dude, completely different. I used to run, like back to
my point before. I used to be running outside, getting
outside with my friend's outdoor heaps right like we used to.
I remember knocking on people's doors, like my friend's doors,
just talking to their parents to ask if they can
come out and play.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yes, And you'd go around also door knocking, like my
best friend Maya had this trick that she'd do where
she'd go around and door knock, and she'd say, have
you seen my cat Pussy? And she'd make everyone in
the neighborhood look for this cat that didn't exist because
you were kids. When you were kids, like you had
(18:41):
to entertain yourselves, you know what. I have the best
memories of being a kid. You'd get the you'd get
the home you get the home phone, and you'd get
your class list and you'd like call your boyfriend's home
and you'd hear their mom and you'd be like, oh
my god, it's Jesse home. Like it was.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yes, you used tot to talk to their parents till
you talking about your friend me and doing that. My
friends were switchboarding houses, like making like turning, like turning
off their power completely.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh my god, that is a wild like going and
turning off the powers at.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Night, like knocking on the door, distracting them and then
turning all of their power off.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Oh that is good, but you know what, Like it
was so much fun, even like you just wanted to
go out, you'd go across to the Neble Court or
you'd go and build a base like in the park
and you'd find bonds everywhere and think it was, oh
my god, like they've been doing weed here and you
think it was like the wildest thing ever. It was
(19:39):
so fun, dude. When I was nine years old, we
would go up to my cousin's farm and we'd build
treehouses and in the tree house, you know kaya Jakia
with so we would build treehouses up in the trees
and we'd get pieces of wood and like get whatever
you could find. And I'm not kidding like this is
(20:01):
just what kids were like these days.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
We had a designated toilet area and one time Kaya
wanted to come into the tree and I was like, Kaya,
I'm so sorry, I need to eat. You can't climb
up at the moment, and she was like, no, I'm
coming up, and I was like, you can't come up.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So I just pissed off. I was like, you can't
come up through the toilet. I said, you need to
use the other side of the train.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No you didn't. Wait what did Kaya do? I would?
I would be so angry.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
But I'm not kidding. Like us little like there was
like ten little cousins all the same age, and like
we'd poo out of the tree brunch.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So you're telling you but you can't.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I remember, yes, yeah, I was a fairal child, and
like I remember we'd go and get ice cream, Like
we'd run down to the ice cream store, got blue
bubblegum ice cream with like your five dollars your parents gave.
Come back to the tree house, like took a dump
in the tree and then it fell down and it
was it was bright blue, and then the dog ate
(21:12):
it start hated. No, it just gisark a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So that was your childhood. You know what, these kids
are better off with the iPads actually rather than that. No,
but like, look, the moral of that story is that
you're outside and a lot of kids aren't nowadays. Do
you think, Tilly, you're you work at school with these
kids five to ten years old. Do you think how
kids socialize and interact back when you're a kid is
(21:42):
different to how they're able to communicate and talk now, Like,
how does that differ?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well, I was saying to you guys yesterday, there's studies
that show the children that go to after school care
and before school care actually have a higher social and
emotional intelligence.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Is that just because they've got more time to like
socialize with their peers and like.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Correct, So other children are going home and their parents
are putting them on their iPads, whereas these kids are
like at Bush with a program that's made to make
them be kids. So like like the other day, for example,
we programmed phishing, so everyone had to go find a stick.
We got a piece of string, and you'd make a
(22:25):
little bait for the bottom, and it was just like
being kids again. And they're like, wow, this is so good.
I'm like, this is what we did back in the day. Yeah,
they're not allowed phones and stuff at school, that's not
the problem. It's the filler time between before school and
after school and on the weekends that they're not getting that.
I don't know what did we have that interaction and that.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, just that ability to yeah, that play, that play,
like socialize and play. But do you think especially in boys, yeah,
or it could be girls as well. Do you feel
that a lot more kids are being die nosed with
ADHD or they're just like they struggle to be retentive
and like hold retention, Like do you see that at school?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It's hard to know. I have looked into the whole
ADHD in children and like there's definitely an increase in
issues for example, not just ADHD, but like ODD which
is like defiancy, ADHD, add OCD everything.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
When did you get diagnosed with ADHD?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Sorry, before you can, Oh, I was diagnosed at fourteen, Okay,
so a bit older. But these children, I think there's
just in general, like more people on the autism spectrum,
on the ADHD spectrum, a lot of neurodivergent children, Like
there is so much more issues these days, whether it
(23:51):
is due to the iPads, or it's due to over
consumption of sugar. Like sometimes I'm like, change your kids
diet man. I look at their lunchboxes and what the
hell does an elsie mbar a packet of shaped packet
of Mammy noodles, And I'm like, you, guys, can't just
eat that because yet that's going to the Yeah, they're
(24:12):
good noodles. But back in the day, we got a
brown bread, vegiemite sandwich, an apple, a banana, and maybe
one treat. It was very different, and it was given
to you in a plastic bag and you were sent
to schools everything. These days, these lunchboxes are wild. They
were just plastic, sugary, processed crap. I mean delicious, yes,
(24:33):
elite as a kid, I would kid right. I don't
know how they function, yeah, exactly. It was the best
when you're young.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
But I heard from a teacher the other day that
kids just don't even understand how to like write correctly,
and that their hands that they don't have like the
like the muscles within their hand anymore to be able to, yeah,
grip a pencil correctly. What I heard. I heard that
the other use they're too busy tap, Yes, that's tapping
away and they don't even know how to write one
(25:02):
and two Like there, I don't know, Like their motor
skills within their hand aren't the same as how ours
were as kids. Is there crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
People not running around throwing dirty.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Them dodgeball or something? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Oh my god, it's not so sad. People also are
getting like callouses things on their fingers. They're getting like
mounted pinkies because they're key like they're pinky, will get
a dent in it kind of from the holding phones.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Oh and I used to get that that same dentt
on this finger, Yes, from a pen, from holding a
pen and like it would hurt so bad? Yes, how
bad was it?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
But you know what the big question is, are we
heading towards a train wreck because kids are using screens
so much?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I actually have faith in our generation. I think the
parents below us, like the generations, just didn't know what
to do with technology. I think this generation bloss is
the test of gener generation people. I've seen that it's failing.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I agree to I think a turn because I was
going to be really really negative then and say we've
got no hope, absolute train rack. But I do agree
I think like us even having this conversation is the
term like, because when we raise our kids, I assume
you'd be the same as mine till. I'm not saying
I'm going to cut the iPad completely out, but I'm
definitely going to have limitters and parameters around when they
(26:25):
can use that iPad versus how much damn sun they're getting,
you know what I mean, yeah, and what they're eating
and all of these little things. How would you raise
your kid till oh?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I honestly, it's so weird because it is that point
in your life when you get older and you think, wow,
I'm grateful for my parents, like what Grace is saying before,
So I am grateful for strict parents. I saw somebody
the other day make a comment on a TikTok and
it had one hundred and fifty six thousand likes, and
it said, I have so much faith in our generation
(26:58):
and how they will raise their children. And I fully
believe that because I just think I, honestly will be
so strict on eating and like iPads and everything, not
just because of the overconsumption, just because of the dangers
that I see online. I think parents need to make
more efforts into getting back into that century play and
(27:20):
just like free play and teaching kids to be kids again,
because I think parents have forgotten because they basically got
pay a thousand dollars and they have a like that
iPad which is a baby sitter.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I think us and parents like where like, let's let's
not lie here, guys. We're clearly addicted to our phones, right, yes,
we literally I was thinking about it the other day
as I had it in my pocket. Is that like
like I take this everywhere? Like am I going to
take this phone everywhere with me for the rest of
my life? You know what I mean? Like, think about
think that, Think about when was the last day that
(27:53):
you had without your phone? Tilly? Ours would have been
big Brother, absolutely life. I love it was.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It's so fun.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Did you feel a difference in like your mood and
your brain chemistry.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Back I feel like I would go to sleep at
night till especially when we're in the house, and I
was excited to go to sleep and like go into
like enter my dreams, like that was my entertainment.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
It's so strange to explain.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Today, I was hanging out with a friend and we
were just going to go for a walk, like do
the could you do bond I walk whatever?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And I was like, you know what.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I was like, you know what, Sam, I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Leave my fone. I'm gonna do it. Some alarms go
off in that studio and it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Was the best decision ever.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I was like, it's so free.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
How good is it? Dude? Lynn falls and she's going
to hate me when she listens to this in the
morning on her drive. But sorry, sorry Lynn, sorry babe,
but she falls asleep to TikTok Like yeah, I've got
videos of her literally falling asleep like this. She loves it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, I have so many friends that do that.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah. So as bad as it is, till I do agree,
I think that we are turning the page here. I
have hope in our generations to come.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I was going to leave you with a little do
it say it.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
But it's I wanted to end things on a positive
note because this is a stat I've read and yeah,
you know it. The study is very generally speaking, it
is believed that the average person is projected to spend
about thirty years of their life behind a device.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, start that, No, guys, Like, guys, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Not Okay, well how do we how do we limit it?
Can wear to know that? Honestly, the government needs to
set a thing and be like two hours a day quota.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah, this is saying not just it's just behind a device. Yeah,
and we all, most of us work behind screens, So
how do you that?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Tous See, this is why I want to no, no,
we're hitting everyone with the truth on this as you're
listening to this with your devices, wireless devices, Bluetooth to
your phone that's in your hand on the train. You
know what, this is all a train wreck. It's all
a train wreck because without their devices, they're not listening
(30:19):
to this.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
So yeah, so let's not shot on the devices all
around Instagram out of here.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
So all right, let's go into train. Yeah. I like that.
It's interesting that we're actually talking about this because as
of two weeks ago, I started looking into the dangers
of you know, having your phone around you so much,
and I found this new Well, my friend Demo actually
(30:48):
showed me this new I don't know if you guys
have seen it, and it's not do not disturb. It's
like a different, completely different function in your phone, and
it like shuts away all of your like notifications, like
you can't see your message notifications, Instagram noticication. Sleep Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Is it called sleep the function?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Have you got it? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So I
use that. But the best part about it is the
alarm that goes off in the morning and it's like
this bird like these birds like chiming, and it's the
most peaceful and best way to wake up rather than
those just stressful, anxiety written alarms. Yes, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Do you now find the birds annoying though, Mary? Or
are they still peaceful?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That's so funny because again we're going back to last night.
I was trying to sleep. Lynn was watching Tiktoks. I
like basically fell asleep and Lynn, there's some birds that
came on on are TikTok and it woke me up.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Your brain's trying to do Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Bad, like in itself, that's bad. I don't know. But
that's my tip because check out the sleep function and
wake up to something soothing because I love it.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I'm going to use that. Okay. My trainer tips are
related to this as well. I was going to suggest
that people get the timer on their apps, which tells
you how long that you've been on your socials. So
like when you're on Instagram, you can set a thirty
minute timer and it doesn't block you from going on
(32:09):
the app. You do put a password in, but at
least you're aware of your scrolling time.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Untill I like this direction that we're going. We're really
we're changing the world one part at a time. Now,
you know.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, guys, let's we actually should have a goal. How
many what's your average screen time?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Just all averages?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Three hours twenty five minutes?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
That's yours? No, I think that's good.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I say, she thinks that's oh yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Mine actually isn't as bad as I feel like it
has been.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
What's yours?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Four hours forty seven?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Oh no, what.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Are you do?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Go to the hell? Go on? What's yours? What?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Six minutes? That's like from dawn till dusk?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Jelly, that's a quorder of your day, your whole day
toaly that is, and not including your sleep. You sleep
for eight hours and then you're on. That's half of
your day to ly, So how's that thirty minute? How's
that old thirty minute time ago?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
And then yeah, real, it's getting a workout.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
It's getting a work out.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
It was actually six hours and nine minutes. So at
least my time is sixty nine. At least is a
silver lining.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yes, there is a silver lining there. I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
You know I have a six nine tattoo.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Oh yeah, I can see it right now. She just
showed me. I can confirm it's real. Well, yep, regrets.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Okay, y that's for another time, another time. Let's end this.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Thank you all for listening. That was That was a
hell of a trainee. If you're listening on Spotify, guys,
we're gonna put a question a QA box there and
what is that question? Grace?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
The question is just there's a Q and a section
at the bottom of Spotify where you can leave your thoughts,
your feedback, or any train wreck story. Send them in.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Wait, dad, just send me a text. No, this makes
me want to cry. What it says? The owner of
Borders in brook Bow told me skateboard sales are way
down because kids are wanting to do everything virtually. Because
of screens, kids aren't learning how to fall, get up,
take risk on a skateboard and not learning all those
skills for later in life.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
No, the skateboard, get off our phones. Let's just end
it with that. Let's get off your phone if you're
listening to this at this point, like, get out of
Spotify and get off your phone and put it away
from the day. Don't even bother about following us on
train recor pod, on Instagram or on TikTok eo. Like
just put your phone away, all right, No phone, okay, fine,
(34:46):
follow us review and then you throw it out, all right.
We love you guys. Bye.
Okay, before we start this podcast, we were just like
to acknowledge that we are very privileged to be safe
where we are. What's happening in Gaza is really devastating
and confronting to be watching. We acknowledge we are so
lucky to live in a country that is safe. Please,
if you're able to help, we are leaving a few
links in the show notes. Thanks. Guys.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Life is an endless series of train wrecks with only
brief commercial like breaks of happiness gang till Hello, Hello, Hello. Wait.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I wanted to say something, but I had to entertain already.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, I know you're already. You're already, You're already tolling
that line.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Are you gang? And then it starts with a B,
so that of course. Yeah? How is everyone?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Everyone is great? Are you talking to me, Grace or
the people that are.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Listening to everyone in the podcast?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, I will speak for them as well. I think
the people are doing great too. I think all of
us are doing great.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Okay, Marley, tell me what you've been up to this
last week?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Okay, you know what? We have?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Anything interesting?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So I do, I do. I was out in the
city yesterday with Lynn and.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And you send me a cool shirt.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes, so this was just after sending you that cool
shirt that we will not repeat on this podcast. So
we just we're at these lights about to cross and
I see this dog in this guy's backpack with glasses on,
and I'm like, oh my god, you should try this.
Can you try this with one of your puppy dog backpacks?
The dog package?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
How weird do you think? I am?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I would have won one hundred percent take my dog
on a bike, But there was a cute little Corgie
in the back of this guy's backpack with glasses on,
and I'm like, how is he keeping his glasses on?
And he rides by and then turns out this dog
is freaking' Instagram and TikTok famous four point two million followers.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
This is so weird because what I'm about to tell
you is a dog.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Story too great. Well, Mad Max, wait, did you film?
I took a photo?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
We'll show you all, Mad Max Fury wrong, Yes, and
you just and I went to that premiere and now
I'm talking about a premiere from last night.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So connected, let's go. So that was that's my week.
That's the highlight of my week. Was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, well, the highlight of my week was also a dog.
So we went to like this Binge premiere last night
for this series called Colin from Accounts and basically the
main star of the show is a dog. Is it
Australian TV?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And we want the dog Australian TV series.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The dog does not talk, Okay, it's just a dog. However,
the rightiest, scruffiest thing you've ever seen. Imagine like a
pound ratty dog. But so all the actors just like
they're not very well carpet trained, Like you can tell
that they're Aussie actors because when they're when they're on
(02:51):
the red carpet, they're like doing those things where girls
put their legs up and around.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Each other, like oh my gosh, you.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Know, and like that was my in around and I
was like.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Are you saying it's just inappropriate.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Because like no, no, no, just like on the normal
red carpet events like with Chris Hemsworth.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Or whoever, you got to look well put together.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, they're like very proper, and like they've got publicists
there telling them to do that. And I couldn't hear
the publicists in the background, and they were like, let's
let's get a move on. Let's get a move on,
because it was like anyway, so funny because the cast
all had to go on the red carpet and then
the dog, the famous dog, got a whole owned seat
(03:32):
and media wall the dog was. Instead of going to
the media wall, we went over to the media seat
with the dog and got photos with the dog.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Wait, have you got photos of the dog?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yes, I'll show please. You know when dogs wear those
like tuxedos.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Oh, had a little bow tie or something on? Yes,
you didn't tell me this? Yeah, I can, I can,
I can. That's cud.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
That's actually like a way more normal looking dog than
I was expecting.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh really, yeah a little.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I expected, like, I don't know, to have some like
gelled mohawk or like something that made it stick out
from the crowd. Because how do you feel about dogs
being famous?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
How No, I I love it.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm just like, Wow, there's a dog riding in the
back of a bicycle that you saw, Maley that has
four point two million followers and literally has like probably
a billion times my net worth.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And I'm true, actually.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
There is like I'm like you know what, it's pure
there is, but like a more moral what is it
called ethical issue there? I think like the dog had
to sit there and there was a lot of flashing
lights on it, and I had to like sit there
and like keep getting photos and like flash, flash flash,
And that's obviously Marley, I don't know, Gross knows this.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Are you going to bring it up?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I was like, that's exactly what I was think.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I have to say it, Sage. When we did our
podcast cover up, we gave my dog epilepsy.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Okay, let's not hold on hold the phone.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
We did, Marley, how else did it happen? It triggered
the epilepsy the photo shoot, obviously not intentionally, and we
took her home and she was very well cared for
and she's now on medication. Oh yeah, it's actually not funny.
I'm not laughing.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No, no, no, no, no, of course, not like the album
or whatever we call it podcasts. We've got cover album,
we've got an album because we're joining your band, Grease Tink.
We were holding Tink in that position like for a
long it was probably like an hour long shoot that
we were having right till and after the shoot Tink
(05:45):
started like shaking in her create. I'm like, what's going on?
Maybe she's just tired or it was.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
A blessing actually, because otherwise we wouldn't have known she
had epilepsy and she would have just died at home.
So true, that was really lucky. Yeah, Okay, Russ is
good to go.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
All right, let's call Russ and let him know what
we're talking about today.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, we're calling Ross every week to explain what's in
the episode.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Ross is Tilly's papa, Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
My father, and Grace is our producer.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Good morning, Chi, Hi dad, Okay, and he says, okay,
So today's episode I briefed you a bit earlier, is on, Yeah,
is basically on our childhood versus the iPad generation. Obviously
(06:35):
we grew up without technology, so we're going to just
discuss the kids these days versus how I guess your
generation as well grew up along with us because we
lack that technology.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
M Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Think that's a really really good area and a topic
to look at because I was thinking about when you
grew up, because really the iPad only just come in.
I think if your childhood go back to you being
wearing a little fairy dress your Bobby, dressing.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Willow and Peggy and taking them for.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Wa dressing our dogs up.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, shooting the friends and the friends of Penny with
Chilly and your little pony, pushing your prim rams. Yes,
so much fun, which kids will lack they don't their
eyes or all.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, it's really sad. Yes, So that's what we're going
to discuss.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
That it's going to be wonderfully good.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
All right, Thanks sad conference.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Thanks. Ross is a huge part of this podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
But he's so much about like spreading, like doing things
for the right reason, and that's why we are going
to start discussing topics that are meaningful, for example, the
use of technology among children, because I think, I mean,
if you have a platform, you should be talking about
things that are relevant and hopefully can change people's lives.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Damn, tell, you've just changed completely over the last good.
What's happening, Marley and I had to talk.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I've grown up about twenty years.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Do you think so?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah? I don't know, but that's good. You're right.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Events in recent would say otherwise, we'll see how the
next twenty minutes go.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's not hold hold our
breath here, Grace nineteen ninety seven to twenty twelve are
apparently gen z is and millennials, which would be me
in nineteen eighty one to nineteen ninety six, apparently, So
tell your gen Z then, So you're low key in
(08:34):
iPad person, aren't gen z is? The iPad is?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I think you're on the carcuse Alpha.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Some refer to the iPad generation as gen Z, but
I'm pretty sure the iPad generation is more like Generation Alpha,
and that was those who were born between twenty ten
and twenty twenty four, the year we're in right now.
But they're the kids, they're the current babies being.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
These are the iPad These are the ipadders. So yeah,
your childhood till so you because like my childhood growing up,
I would be outside all the time, like, especially outside
of school hours. All the time I was outside, right
and even when we were at school, like we were
rarely ever in front of any technology.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Dude, And remember computer lessons, computer lessons for the best
day of the way. It was like a Thursday afternoon
and you'd go on and you'd learn word art, you'd
play that do you.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Remember that typing game game? Yeah, typing game that taught
you how to like use the keyboard. That that was
super super dope. But outside of that, like I I
don't think I got a phone until probably year seven,
when did you get your first phone? Till? And the
issue is what kind of phone was it? Because I
had a completely different phone to probably what you had.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
But did you get an iPod Touch first? I did?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yes, I did. I love everyone got an eye That
was the best thing ever.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I remember vividly on a Friday after noon, Mom picked
us up from school and I was like, oh my god,
did you get it? And she like had that glass
It came in that glass case, that plastic case. Security
is that it was this blue iPod Touch and I
was so skinny.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I thought touches were so cat because it was literally
an iPhone without the cellular duty. It was like, what
was the purpose of that?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's perfect for like not wanting to give a kid
a phone, but like allowing them to have like an
hour's technology time before bed.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I think that's all right, But that's the same as
an iPad then.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
But what they do on the iPads now is what's
of concern to me. Like they're using them basically as phones.
The messenger kids the social media.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Like when I think of iPad kids, I don't think
about them like getting onto social media. I just think
that they're consuming that iPad like all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yea one percent, but a lot of them. Most of
them are on TikTok. Pretty much every kid at my
work follows me.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Wait, okay, that's wild, because Tilly, you work in childcare, right, So, like,
how old are those.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Kids, like anywhere from like five years old to no.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Okay, they're all on social media.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, okay, if you're five years old and you have
TikTok or Instagram and stuff like, that's got to be
a parental issue at that point, right. I Mean I'm
not a parent, but like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I think it is a comment on your parenting though,
because when I was younger, my dad was very strict. First,
when everyone else got I pods, like I was only
allowed I got. My dad bought me a mini computer,
and instead of like being able to go on all
those group chats and on social media and stuff, I
could still somewhat engage with like my friends that were
(11:46):
on Facebook, but like that was the extent of it.
I couldn't use tick and scroll through? What was it called?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So? Did you just call it tick? Ok?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Kickkick?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Wait? Did you start off at Facebook? You never had MySpace?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
No? We never.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I don't know about my line you wait, Grace, did
you have MySpace?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I missed the boat and I'm so sad about it.
Every time anyone who ever had it tells me about it,
I'm like, that sounds like it would have been my jam.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It was the best eraror I'll tell you what was
so so stressful about MySpace though, is you had like
a top you had like a top friends, and you
could like set like a top three, top five or
top ten friends, right, and like you'd have like your
best friend as number one, as number two, your next,
and so on and so forth. But like when you
would change that, this would like end friendships and relationships.
(12:31):
When you changed your tops, we called it our tops chat. Yes,
it's literally like that. And you had music on there,
and you could like make a theme of your page
and you could.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Like, wait, where did this go?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Or did you tell you what it was all about?
It's all about likes now, and back then it was
all about comments. No one cared about likes. Your picture
would have no likes, but if you had comments under
your photo, you were like lit.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, people knew about engagement from day one.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Literally, what happened to MySpace now? Is that still a thing?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think my Space started. I'm pretty sure that it's
a graveyard site now.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Facebook definitely came in and like replaced it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, yeah Facebook.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I was ten years old when I got Facebook. Really yeah,
but that's when I that age. No, everyone had that age,
and it was very different to how you're.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Think about Aleah having Facebook right now. Actually that's you
know what's crazy is Aleiah does have Facebook. We message
on Facebook Messenger all the time. She doesn't have Facebook,
she has a Messengers. Yeah, yeah, Alias Alia's my goddaughter,
that's my little cousin.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Well, yeah, I had Facebook and you just post the
most random stuff, Like you'd post your holiday in London
and you post some photos but they'd be taken on.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Well I went to London when I lived in Malaysia.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
From Malaysia, got you got.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You because mum worked there. Also, wait, just while we're
on the topic of Facebook, in year eleven, there was
this trend going oh years ten, there was this trend
going around, and you'd post on your Facebook like smash
or dash yeah yeah, and like everyone would like comment,
like their name to see what you'd reply back, so
you'd either reply smash or dash back. And I had
(14:11):
this whole like like a hot or not come yeah yeah,
And I had I had a boyfriend that i'd had
for like years, like since year eight, so it would
have been my third year of dating him, and he
posted a smash or dash thing and this girl that
he always talked about, Layla, her name was.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
He comments, you're getting absolutely slammed right.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Now, Layla. I don't even know the last name. I
don't even remember anymore. But Layla commented on this my
boyfriend's thing, and he goes, smash come up without a doubt.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Wait he said that, or she said that he.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Said that about her, and I remember and he was
fully gas light me. He's like, no, it's like it's
not a big deal, Like I'm just you know, it's
just a Facebook trend. And I was like, are you
kidding me? Smashed without a.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Doubt, dude, nah nah.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
That's why when you're saying MySpace ended relationships face, I.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Think just social media in general, this was you said,
this was high school, right, your ten. Yeah, we didn't
have Instagram or anything like that in high school. Like
my high school would have been so much different than
your high school. I feel we actually had to like
talk to people, like if you like had a crush
on someone or wanted to talk to someone like you knew.
(15:38):
I guess we had MSN. Do you remember MSN? But
like talking.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
We're in the.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Age group that's like just on the cutoff.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, we'd have to come back to school the next
day and then literally just talk to them in person,
like actually learn how to talk to people. I feel
like your generation maybe just relied on like speaking over
the phone or messaging and stuff rather than actually talking
in person, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
In year six, I had like my first boyfriend, which
obviously wasn't a boyfriend, but it was at the time.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
We never spoke in person, but over text we would
say I love you, like I love you baby, I
love you baby, hey baby, how are you and literally
all this stuff, and he'd be like, do you want
to go to formal with me? And stuff, But we
would never speak in person. Ever, you see each other
(16:35):
in person, see each other guy in contact just smile,
didn't speak.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I'm the same.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Why do you think I got Facebook? It was to
talk to a boy, Yes, boy, and I had to
get it. I had to get it in secret because
mom and dad same as you two. They were really
strict on Like I didn't get a phone till I
was like fifteen.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I didn't get there.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You go hearing that.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I feel for our parents, like, because how did they
this was new to them? Like they didn't. They were
only doing what they thought was best for us. We
were we were thinking we're missing out, but in reality,
we're growing with it as they were growing with it.
It was the same for everyone experiencing this social media
and all these new apps and whatnot. They had no
(17:17):
idea what was best for us.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
See you talking about apps?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Hold on, hold on, you're talking about All I had
was damn snake on my phone, like a Motorola flip
phone bro where I had to pay for like five
dollars credit to textext.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Oh yeah, I did have to pay for credit at once.
It's like when I was in year seventies, I was
paying for credit or no no on on a wild
little phone.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Taste of that, thank you, but then you'd.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Go home to your iPod. Yes, yeah, so you had
at home. So you have Wi Fi at home? Correct,
Wi Fi at home, and then you have a little
phone like a flip phone or something for school.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Okay, So what do you think about like in terms
of your like the that you have of your childhood
and what childhoods look like now.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Dude, completely different. I used to run, like back to
my point before. I used to be running outside, getting
outside with my friend's outdoor heaps right like we used to.
I remember knocking on people's doors, like my friend's doors,
just talking to their parents to ask if they can
come out and play.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yes, And you'd go around also door knocking, like my
best friend Maya had this trick that she'd do where
she'd go around and door knock, and she'd say, have
you seen my cat Pussy? And she'd make everyone in
the neighborhood look for this cat that didn't exist because
you were kids. When you were kids, like you had
(18:41):
to entertain yourselves, you know what. I have the best
memories of being a kid. You'd get the you'd get
the home you get the home phone, and you'd get
your class list and you'd like call your boyfriend's home
and you'd hear their mom and you'd be like, oh
my god, it's Jesse home. Like it was.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yes, you used tot to talk to their parents till
you talking about your friend me and doing that. My
friends were switchboarding houses, like making like turning, like turning
off their power completely.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh my god, that is a wild like going and
turning off the powers at.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Night, like knocking on the door, distracting them and then
turning all of their power off.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Oh that is good, but you know what, Like it
was so much fun, even like you just wanted to
go out, you'd go across to the Neble Court or
you'd go and build a base like in the park
and you'd find bonds everywhere and think it was, oh
my god, like they've been doing weed here and you
think it was like the wildest thing ever. It was
(19:39):
so fun, dude. When I was nine years old, we
would go up to my cousin's farm and we'd build
treehouses and in the tree house, you know kaya Jakia
with so we would build treehouses up in the trees
and we'd get pieces of wood and like get whatever
you could find. And I'm not kidding like this is
(20:01):
just what kids were like these days.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
We had a designated toilet area and one time Kaya
wanted to come into the tree and I was like, Kaya,
I'm so sorry, I need to eat. You can't climb
up at the moment, and she was like, no, I'm
coming up, and I was like, you can't come up.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So I just pissed off. I was like, you can't
come up through the toilet. I said, you need to
use the other side of the train.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No you didn't. Wait what did Kaya do? I would?
I would be so angry.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
But I'm not kidding. Like us little like there was
like ten little cousins all the same age, and like
we'd poo out of the tree brunch.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So you're telling you but you can't.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I remember, yes, yeah, I was a fairal child, and
like I remember we'd go and get ice cream, Like
we'd run down to the ice cream store, got blue
bubblegum ice cream with like your five dollars your parents gave.
Come back to the tree house, like took a dump
in the tree and then it fell down and it
was it was bright blue, and then the dog ate
(21:12):
it start hated. No, it just gisark a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So that was your childhood. You know what, these kids
are better off with the iPads actually rather than that. No,
but like, look, the moral of that story is that
you're outside and a lot of kids aren't nowadays. Do
you think, Tilly, you're you work at school with these
kids five to ten years old. Do you think how
kids socialize and interact back when you're a kid is
(21:42):
different to how they're able to communicate and talk now, Like,
how does that differ?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well, I was saying to you guys yesterday, there's studies
that show the children that go to after school care
and before school care actually have a higher social and
emotional intelligence.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Is that just because they've got more time to like
socialize with their peers and like.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Correct, So other children are going home and their parents
are putting them on their iPads, whereas these kids are
like at Bush with a program that's made to make
them be kids. So like like the other day, for example,
we programmed phishing, so everyone had to go find a stick.
We got a piece of string, and you'd make a
(22:25):
little bait for the bottom, and it was just like
being kids again. And they're like, wow, this is so good.
I'm like, this is what we did back in the day. Yeah,
they're not allowed phones and stuff at school, that's not
the problem. It's the filler time between before school and
after school and on the weekends that they're not getting that.
I don't know what did we have that interaction and that.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, just that ability to yeah, that play, that play,
like socialize and play. But do you think especially in boys, yeah,
or it could be girls as well. Do you feel
that a lot more kids are being die nosed with
ADHD or they're just like they struggle to be retentive
and like hold retention, Like do you see that at school?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It's hard to know. I have looked into the whole
ADHD in children and like there's definitely an increase in
issues for example, not just ADHD, but like ODD which
is like defiancy, ADHD, add OCD everything.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
When did you get diagnosed with ADHD?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Sorry, before you can, Oh, I was diagnosed at fourteen, Okay,
so a bit older. But these children, I think there's
just in general, like more people on the autism spectrum,
on the ADHD spectrum, a lot of neurodivergent children, Like
there is so much more issues these days, whether it
(23:51):
is due to the iPads, or it's due to over
consumption of sugar. Like sometimes I'm like, change your kids
diet man. I look at their lunchboxes and what the
hell does an elsie mbar a packet of shaped packet
of Mammy noodles, And I'm like, you, guys, can't just
eat that because yet that's going to the Yeah, they're
(24:12):
good noodles. But back in the day, we got a
brown bread, vegiemite sandwich, an apple, a banana, and maybe
one treat. It was very different, and it was given
to you in a plastic bag and you were sent
to schools everything. These days, these lunchboxes are wild. They
were just plastic, sugary, processed crap. I mean delicious, yes,
(24:33):
elite as a kid, I would kid right. I don't
know how they function, yeah, exactly. It was the best
when you're young.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
But I heard from a teacher the other day that
kids just don't even understand how to like write correctly,
and that their hands that they don't have like the
like the muscles within their hand anymore to be able to, yeah,
grip a pencil correctly. What I heard. I heard that
the other use they're too busy tap, Yes, that's tapping
away and they don't even know how to write one
(25:02):
and two Like there, I don't know, Like their motor
skills within their hand aren't the same as how ours
were as kids. Is there crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
People not running around throwing dirty.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Them dodgeball or something? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Oh my god, it's not so sad. People also are
getting like callouses things on their fingers. They're getting like
mounted pinkies because they're key like they're pinky, will get
a dent in it kind of from the holding phones.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Oh and I used to get that that same dentt
on this finger, Yes, from a pen, from holding a
pen and like it would hurt so bad? Yes, how
bad was it?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
But you know what the big question is, are we
heading towards a train wreck because kids are using screens
so much?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I actually have faith in our generation. I think the
parents below us, like the generations, just didn't know what
to do with technology. I think this generation bloss is
the test of gener generation people. I've seen that it's failing.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I agree to I think a turn because I was
going to be really really negative then and say we've
got no hope, absolute train rack. But I do agree
I think like us even having this conversation is the
term like, because when we raise our kids, I assume
you'd be the same as mine till. I'm not saying
I'm going to cut the iPad completely out, but I'm
definitely going to have limitters and parameters around when they
(26:25):
can use that iPad versus how much damn sun they're getting,
you know what I mean, yeah, and what they're eating
and all of these little things. How would you raise
your kid till oh?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I honestly, it's so weird because it is that point
in your life when you get older and you think, wow,
I'm grateful for my parents, like what Grace is saying before,
So I am grateful for strict parents. I saw somebody
the other day make a comment on a TikTok and
it had one hundred and fifty six thousand likes, and
it said, I have so much faith in our generation
(26:58):
and how they will raise their children. And I fully
believe that because I just think I, honestly will be
so strict on eating and like iPads and everything, not
just because of the overconsumption, just because of the dangers
that I see online. I think parents need to make
more efforts into getting back into that century play and
(27:20):
just like free play and teaching kids to be kids again,
because I think parents have forgotten because they basically got
pay a thousand dollars and they have a like that
iPad which is a baby sitter.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I think us and parents like where like, let's let's
not lie here, guys. We're clearly addicted to our phones, right, yes,
we literally I was thinking about it the other day
as I had it in my pocket. Is that like
like I take this everywhere? Like am I going to
take this phone everywhere with me for the rest of
my life? You know what I mean? Like, think about
think that, Think about when was the last day that
(27:53):
you had without your phone? Tilly? Ours would have been
big Brother, absolutely life. I love it was.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It's so fun.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Did you feel a difference in like your mood and
your brain chemistry.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Back I feel like I would go to sleep at
night till especially when we're in the house, and I
was excited to go to sleep and like go into
like enter my dreams, like that was my entertainment.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
It's so strange to explain.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Today, I was hanging out with a friend and we
were just going to go for a walk, like do
the could you do bond I walk whatever?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And I was like, you know what.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I was like, you know what, Sam, I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Leave my fone. I'm gonna do it. Some alarms go
off in that studio and it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Was the best decision ever.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I was like, it's so free.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
How good is it? Dude? Lynn falls and she's going
to hate me when she listens to this in the
morning on her drive. But sorry, sorry Lynn, sorry babe,
but she falls asleep to TikTok Like yeah, I've got
videos of her literally falling asleep like this. She loves it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, I have so many friends that do that.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah. So as bad as it is, till I do agree,
I think that we are turning the page here. I
have hope in our generations to come.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I was going to leave you with a little do
it say it.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
But it's I wanted to end things on a positive
note because this is a stat I've read and yeah,
you know it. The study is very generally speaking, it
is believed that the average person is projected to spend
about thirty years of their life behind a device.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, start that, No, guys, Like, guys, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Not Okay, well how do we how do we limit it?
Can wear to know that? Honestly, the government needs to
set a thing and be like two hours a day quota.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah, this is saying not just it's just behind a device. Yeah,
and we all, most of us work behind screens, So
how do you that?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Tous See, this is why I want to no, no,
we're hitting everyone with the truth on this as you're
listening to this with your devices, wireless devices, Bluetooth to
your phone that's in your hand on the train. You
know what, this is all a train wreck. It's all
a train wreck because without their devices, they're not listening
(30:19):
to this.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
So yeah, so let's not shot on the devices all
around Instagram out of here.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
So all right, let's go into train. Yeah. I like that.
It's interesting that we're actually talking about this because as
of two weeks ago, I started looking into the dangers
of you know, having your phone around you so much,
and I found this new Well, my friend Demo actually
(30:48):
showed me this new I don't know if you guys
have seen it, and it's not do not disturb. It's
like a different, completely different function in your phone, and
it like shuts away all of your like notifications, like
you can't see your message notifications, Instagram noticication. Sleep Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Is it called sleep the function?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Have you got it? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So I
use that. But the best part about it is the
alarm that goes off in the morning and it's like
this bird like these birds like chiming, and it's the
most peaceful and best way to wake up rather than
those just stressful, anxiety written alarms. Yes, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Do you now find the birds annoying though, Mary? Or
are they still peaceful?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That's so funny because again we're going back to last night.
I was trying to sleep. Lynn was watching Tiktoks. I
like basically fell asleep and Lynn, there's some birds that
came on on are TikTok and it woke me up.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Your brain's trying to do Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Bad, like in itself, that's bad. I don't know. But
that's my tip because check out the sleep function and
wake up to something soothing because I love it.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I'm going to use that. Okay. My trainer tips are
related to this as well. I was going to suggest
that people get the timer on their apps, which tells
you how long that you've been on your socials. So
like when you're on Instagram, you can set a thirty
minute timer and it doesn't block you from going on
(32:09):
the app. You do put a password in, but at
least you're aware of your scrolling time.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Untill I like this direction that we're going. We're really
we're changing the world one part at a time. Now,
you know.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, guys, let's we actually should have a goal. How
many what's your average screen time?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Just all averages?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Three hours twenty five minutes?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
That's yours? No, I think that's good.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I say, she thinks that's oh yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Mine actually isn't as bad as I feel like it
has been.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
What's yours?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Four hours forty seven?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Oh no, what.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Are you do?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Go to the hell? Go on? What's yours? What?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Six minutes? That's like from dawn till dusk?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Jelly, that's a quorder of your day, your whole day
toaly that is, and not including your sleep. You sleep
for eight hours and then you're on. That's half of
your day to ly, So how's that thirty minute? How's
that old thirty minute time ago?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
And then yeah, real, it's getting a workout.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
It's getting a work out.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
It was actually six hours and nine minutes. So at
least my time is sixty nine. At least is a
silver lining.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yes, there is a silver lining there. I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
You know I have a six nine tattoo.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Oh yeah, I can see it right now. She just
showed me. I can confirm it's real. Well, yep, regrets.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Okay, y that's for another time, another time. Let's end this.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Thank you all for listening. That was That was a
hell of a trainee. If you're listening on Spotify, guys,
we're gonna put a question a QA box there and
what is that question? Grace?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
The question is just there's a Q and a section
at the bottom of Spotify where you can leave your thoughts,
your feedback, or any train wreck story. Send them in.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Wait, dad, just send me a text. No, this makes
me want to cry. What it says? The owner of
Borders in brook Bow told me skateboard sales are way
down because kids are wanting to do everything virtually. Because
of screens, kids aren't learning how to fall, get up,
take risk on a skateboard and not learning all those
skills for later in life.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
No, the skateboard, get off our phones. Let's just end
it with that. Let's get off your phone if you're
listening to this at this point, like, get out of
Spotify and get off your phone and put it away
from the day. Don't even bother about following us on
train recor pod, on Instagram or on TikTok eo. Like
just put your phone away, all right, No phone, okay, fine,
(34:46):
follow us review and then you throw it out, all right.
We love you guys. Bye.
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