November 4, 2024 • 33 mins
It's our last episode of 2024! Georgie and Abbey are joined by Sam Koslowski co-founder of The Daily Aus to look back on the biggest and best sports stories of the year. Plus, the team make their sporting predictions for 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Here at two Good Sports. We would like to acknowledge
the traditional owners of the land on which we record
this podcast. There were Inurie people. This land was never seated,
always was always will be. Hello and welcome to two
Good Sports sports news told differently. I'm Georgie Tunnan for the.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Last time in twenty twenty four for Two Good Sports.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I am abbe jelmy.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I cannot believe that we're almost at the point of
the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Like Christmas decorations are up, I am not prepared.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Remember when you go into the supermarket for the first
time and you see the puddings and your life past.
That is a lightning bolt. A lightning bolt, because it's
coming earlier and earlier. But I can't believe that this
year is actually over.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm sad that crazy the season's over for us. There's
still so much sports to come. But we have absolutely
loved it and we do have a special app today.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
George, Yes, we do today. I'm so excited to say
that we're joined by a very special guest on this episode,
this very special episode of Two Good Sports. It's Sam
Kuselowski from The Daily Ohs. And Sam, first of all,
did I now the pronunciation of your last night, or
have I completely butchered it?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
You know what, Georgie, you did better than most of
my high school.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
That means I botched it it Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Nearly nearly Koselowski. But as with any good ethnic boy,
you know, we'll take what we can get and we'll
just run with it.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Can I take gelmy, jelmy, gabby, abby, whatever you want
to lob up?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
At this point, we just stop it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I'm gonna I'm gonna blame it on my Queensland accent.
That's what I'm going to do. I think, I think
that's how.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It's how it's spelled.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, Sam, of course we know who you are, and
I had the absolute joy of being sat next to
you at a function earlier this year and we just
completely clicked because you are delightful, but you're also incredibly
impressive in your professional life with the Daily Ohs, Can
you please introduce yourself to our dear listeners who, unless
they've been living under rock, I feel like you already
(01:58):
know who you are, but just in case, just in case.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah. So, I'm the co founder of The Daily Os
with the equally delightful Zara Sidler and the two of
us started the Daily ODS just as two friends wanting
to give news to our friends in twenty seventeens. I
was twenty two and she was twenty and then we
were working in other jobs and all that kind of stuff,
and then we quit our jobs in twenty twenty one
and went full time on the Daily Ohs. And now
(02:21):
I've got a newsroom of twenty young people here in Sydney.
We've got Instagram, TikTok, newsletters, podcasts, you know, we're starting
to make more videos, and we just launched our sport newsletter.
So it's it's just an absolute joy to be giving
news to young Australians, and not just young Australians, but
every Australian.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Hopefully I'm gonna say every single Australian, because I feel
that the Daily OS is an empire.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
What it is that it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's genuinely how I would say, the majority of people
I know in my circle, but then even just in
this country get their information right now, like it's incredible.
You mentioned your sports newsletter, Sam, which we are avid
fans of obvious reasons. But what I'd love to get
you to do. We know who you are now as
a person, as a professional person as well, but who
are you as a sports person?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Well, it's everything to me, like it's the love of
my life is sport.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Hello to your beautiful wife. By the way, Oh my go.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
She knows, she knows, and that's they have to get
that off the top. She gets it, she loves it.
I've converted her to be a Swans fan. We're all good.
But my dad was the sports editor of the Sydney
Morning Herald and he was in that position for quite
a while, and I grew up from I mean literally,
if you look up my birth announcement in the Sydney
Morning Herald in December of nineteen ninety four, the entire
(03:43):
thing is a cricket analogy. And the first photo I
ever have is me lying in a batpad, so I
didn't really have a choice. And then the earliest memory
I have is the Sydney Olympics. I was five years
old watching Kathy Freeman run around the track. And then
when I was seventeen. Oh so, I think the other
(04:04):
important thing to mention is I was really into surf
life saving and nippers, so that was my big sport
when I was younger, and then I had a really
bad knee injury when I was thirteen, and I've had
four knee reconstructions.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Wowow.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
And at that time, that's when a psychologist at the
time said you should start riding about sport because you're
you can't be playing it.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Your body's shutting down.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
That's it. And that's when I fell in love with journalism.
And so at seventeen, I started at Fox Sports and
I was at Fox Sports for five years and I
worked on everything from you know, the overnight shifts as
a journalist all the way through to being part of
the team that launched Ko Sports and the first kind
of streaming service. And then I became a lawyer for
five minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But sport, I mean, you're real underachiever, Sam a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I was a lawyer for five minutes.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It was terrible. I was terrible.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
If I could throw that into a conversation, I would
at any given point, even.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Though you're a lawyer for five seconds, Sam to people
will be honest, Do they come to you for legal advice?
Because I would.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah. They say, I've got a friend who was caught
at a nightclub with I say, go talk to someone
who's still got a license.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well, the nice thing is there's a bit of synergy
here because Georgie and I actually met at Fox Sports Wow,
where we were both doing our internship on the same day,
and the poor gentleman that was mentoring us couldn't tell
us apart.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's right, because they're very similar.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
We were both brunette at the time, very difficult to
get across the board. But what I've locked in there
is that the batpad can be can be the new
snoop Oh, I was going a little cricket pad.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
That's gorgeous. When you do it.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I'll send it to you after this. It's incredible, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
But you can feel the passion and the love. And
again if the fact that you're a new South Welshman
and you say footy and I say please clarify and
you go with AFL means that you're a man after
my heart and I've got issues, Sam, But.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
That's okay, that's okay. You're appealing to jell me.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I get it also, And my secret skill is being
able to recite sports commentary from famous man.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Can you do the Leo Barry Leo Barry?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You Starve give him something difficult?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Do you want? You want Nick Davis fourth quarter against
your lung? Obviously, now Davis Davis, I see it, but
I don't believe it. Nick Davis from the pocket?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Love it, love it. Who's your favorite commentator?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Bruce? Is that even a question anymore?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Have you ever met Bruce?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Never? Never? That would I wouldn't know it to say.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know what you do?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Go to water when you meet him, and I promise
you that he is everything you'd hope and dream for.
You should go to Ramwick anytime that he's there and
just linger near the seven broadcast to be near the greatness,
because everything that you'd hope that he would be he is.
But oh, Georgie, we're joined by one of our own. Oh,
this couldn't be more perfect for our finalist.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
This is what I mean, And I just knew it.
That's why genuinely such a special episode coming up, we
are going to be talking with Sam about some of
the big moments of twenty twenty four. We're looking back,
we're looking forward.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Which in an Olympic year is difficult.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It is difficult. It is difficult to pick anything that
outside of the Green and gold. Do you know what
I mean? Like, it's a lot, There's a lot, and yet.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
We managed to ish It's been a huge year in sport.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Oh my god. Massive. We'll be right back with Sam
after this. Yes, we're back topic one of our big, big, big,
big sporting moments for twenty twenty four. Sam from the
(07:33):
Daily Ohs is still with us and Sam, we are
beginning with a rather controversial topic that got Gelmy and
I rather riled up over the course of the year,
and that is the Enhanced Games. My question for you,
first of all, Sam, are you a fan or not
a fan of this concept.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I'm a fan of seeing once and then seeing how
I feel like. I think I'm a fan of how
curious I am to see what could be possible. But
I don't think that it's I just don't think it's
one of those things that's going to be introduced and
then stay there and then one hundred years time they're
going to be saying it's still there.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, And we should point out like a bit more
context for the Enhanced Games is essentially what we calling it,
jem mean, it's like the Olympics but drugs are allowed.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh, it's the doped Game, the doped Games, and the
figurehead in Australia is James Magnuson who competed for Australia
at twenty two.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
He's now thirty two and.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
He said I will reduce myself to the Gills direct
quote in order to firstly the finance on offer. So
it's one hundred thousand US if you just qualify, but
if you break a world record it is a million
dollars US.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, which to have this on offer.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And it's not funded by government, which is the issue
that we're seeing for the Comonwealth Games, and also issues
that we're seeing for the Olympics that is sponsored by
big farmer and big business who just want to see
what this is going to look like. It's so commercially
viable and my god, as much as it pains me,
I want to watch it. And the stat are this
(09:00):
that made me really sad is that over forty percent
of Olympic athletes admitted to water that they were doping.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Wow, that was depressing. So this was a depressing lie.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So doping is already a part of elite sport. They
are saying that with the enhanced Games it will be safer,
but our moral compass says say it ain't so.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
And I actually found one of the most compelling arguments
against the games to be the health risks. Though, in
terms of as soon as you kind of set than
a new bar, people are going to push their bodies
further and further and further, They're going to have more
and more, you know, experimental steroids to get that extra edge,
and the norm of just steroids is going to mean
(09:42):
that there's more, you know, pushing the boundaries, and that's
really dangerous.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Do you know what? Though, even the dangerousness of this
as a concept I think makes it more attractive for
sikos like you two to watch it because this is
this is true. This is an update from our episode
Jellmy Rob Mack. I think I've said his name right.
We don't know and director Ridley Scott are set to
co produce a ten part docu series about.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
The enhanced can't tell me that you're not watching?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, everyone's watching that. That's the thing, right, Everyone's watching that.
But Sam, do you think that?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And this is what we really struggled with was like.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
That you talk about the safety.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So Aaron Desusa, who happens to be a Victorian, he's
a Melbournie and he's the founder and president of this
whole concept. Has said it's not in our interest to
have athletes dropping dead trying to swim the fastest fifty meters.
We will be actually testing and regulating these drugs and
these athletes, which is not something that's offered as part
(10:41):
of the Olympic program.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, but they're guinea pig in my hair. See I'm
a very big sci fi fan, so in my head
they're the guinea pigs. Then for the general populace, these
people haven't died, so therefore let's mass produce this and
see how much how much we can sell.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Which is why billionaires are like, yeah, have my money.
The only thing I can't buy is a longer life.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Do you think it's still important though, for there to
be for sport to be clean, for there to be
this sanctity around that.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
But is it clean?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah? I think that's exactly the point out is that, Yes,
I do, Georgie think that it's important for sports to
be clean, and I mean take aside the economics of
it all, and you know the fact that there's integrity
in sport that makes people a lot of money and
it makes people have jobs and everything because we trust
the sport that we're watching. There are health issues that
(11:30):
are associated with drugs that make your body do things
that your body shouldn't do. And as we then have
these enhanced games where they say they're going to regulate it,
humans like to cheat. It's part of humanity to push
the boundaries and get around the rules. So good luck
to him if he thinks that he's going to regulate
a bunch of roided up kind of athletes in their
(11:52):
twilight era of their careers who are not going to
figure out ways to push the boundaries.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, our other point around this, for it wouldn't be
so attractive to these athletes that have retired if they
had made enough money as athletes competing at an Olympic
level during the Games, that this money wasn't attractive, and
yet it is. So we're seeing that athletes that are
in the podium of the best in the world have
a full time job in addition to training because the
(12:20):
money that they receive, Like I think the average Australian
Olympian if they were just to live off what they
made at the Olympics, is below the poverty line.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
There's obviously outliers responsors of that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But we have to look at the structure of the
Olympics of going Why is being a guinea pig for
Big Farmer attractive enough that they've got people signing up.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I do think a positive of the Games is that
it does raise these uncomfortable conversations right for people to
have and all different platforms at all different levels. I
have an uncomfortable question though, for Sam before we move
to our next topic in this Year in Review episode,
which is if you were to compete in the Enhanced Games, Sam, you.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Competing in so we've got to remember it's just track
and field.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oh yeah, it's a scale down.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, it'll shock you that.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Boxing got to look in and I think it's like
weightlifting as well as like basically that's it. They've basically gone,
what do we not have to build infrastructure for?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Keep it clean? Line? So out of.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Those, out of those, Sam, I'm going to pick gymnastics
For Sam, I reckon.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Well, I'm six for' two so and I've always wanted
to lean into to my weight and height, so maybe
I'd go long jump.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That's a good short sprint. Yes, send me thirty meters
long ways. I'm good to go.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I love that we all know that I'm trying to
be someone Biles and for you little Dolphin. Oh actually, actually, yeah,
that's so true. That is actually true. Maybe I could
do both.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Let's be honest. I'm doing none of them.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But what I am doing is watching, and I can
pretend to have all the moral high ground that I
want in terms of doping in sport makes me sick,
which it does. But will I be watching this Disney
series oh with popcorn? And will I be watching the
enhanced games when it happens, we will have a viewing party.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
But maybe then commentators need to step up and also
start doping. And you can just have like a whole
bottle of riddle and and you can you can speak
faster and remember more than you ever have before.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Oh my god, the play by play on that imagine,
I'm ready, ready, give me a mill to qualify and
I'm on, I'll be the next Bruce Mcamaney.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I won't even get to those heights. And that's the
next question as well. Will we see world records tumble
because of the doping or is it uncomfortable when people
are doping to the eyeballs and they still can't get
near the.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
World part of the story, which is part of the story.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
But anyway, that is one of the stories that was
our highlight of the year. Another one which I'd honestly
forgotten a little bit about because it's taken a back seat,
but it was huge at the time is Tasmania is
getting an AFL team, the Tazzy Devils. And the funniest
part for us was all the questions around the trademark
of the Tazzy Devils, because Warner Brothers said, no, you don't.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And it was only when.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They realized that the Tazzy Devil was a legitimate name
of an animal that we have in Australia that they
decided to let us have a little bit of a
trademark there. So we have a name, we have a guernsey.
But more remarkably, they have two hundred thousand founding members.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yes, it's just incredible.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It went game busters, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Are you Are you one of them?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Sam?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I know you're a swans Man.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
But the people just jumped on board the support what they.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Did they did and are you a fan of the
concept of Tazzy getting an AFL team.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'm a massive fan of I think there should be
an AFL team in every state and territory. As we
can get to that point as quick as possible, then
it will truly be, you know, a nationally representative sport.
I think it makes such a difference to local communities
when they can back a team that they feel like
is theirs, and you know, you start to get to
(16:04):
have jobs around the club and a junior footy program,
and it's just such an awesome thing. I just really
want to see that team running onto the field. What
you do?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
They start twenty twenty eight, right, so.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
We've got a little bit of a little bit of time.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
But they need to have a stadium by twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yes, and I'm sam on the record as being not
a fan of even just the plan for their current stadium,
which I know is still very contentious. They're still fighting
about whether or not it's going to go ahead. But
the initial plan was something like a twenty something thousand
seat stadium.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And needed a run and need it was twenty three
thousand and needed a roof, is what Andrew Dillon, the
AFL were like, oh, you can have one, you need
to build this, so it was on the government.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Whereas I think that short sighted. We're seeing with smaller
venues around the country, just like in terms of using
that venue for other sports, for artists, huge artists, that
they just avoid those kind of capacity stadiums like it's no,
it's not possible.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm going to put a counter argument to Sam and
he can decide which one of us he agrees with you.
I think it's the right size because if you head
to the showgrounds or enng Stadium to watch the Giants,
who are a highly successful AFL franchise, yes, not in
an AFL state so to speak, you are struggling even
in finals to fill that stadium and to get the
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energy that should be required for sporting events to feel great.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
But if you build a great stadium, you can get
bigger acts there and it's not just footy, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
But for what it's primarily going to be used for,
for the population in Tasmania.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I think twenty three is a really good idea, Sam, Sam, so.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I have well, i think I'm going to agree with
both of you. I think sorry, sorry, sorry, Sam, I
think there is a way I remember seeing at the time.
I can't exactly remember who propose it, but there is
a way to basically construct a stadium that can feel
packed at twenty thousand people but has easy ways to
convert it and scale it up. Oh and so it's.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Like one of those tables at Christmas that you have
about some extra step.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yes, this time.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Slightly more infrastructure spend, I think, but there's you know,
like even something as simple as just leaving one side
of the stadium to be a hill with the ability
to build a stand.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
On yeah, adelaide oval.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah, yeah, there are ways to think about this so
that we can know when it is twenty thousand people
a game, then we can say, all right, let's scale
this baby up and go to thirty five and then
fifty and then the next MCG not.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Too flag issue. Is there a roof with a hill?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
No? No roof.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
No, it needs to have. The AFL wanted a roof.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And I'm going to tell you, as someone who has
done boundary from Blunston Arena, it is.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Cold, Sam.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, but you mentioned the stadium and the build and
the infrastructure. It's twenty twenty four. It's hard to build
a House in two years. We still don't have a
stadium that's approved. We still don't have a government that
have said we're green lighting this. I am so dubious
as to whether or not this is going to be
completed by twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
And there is a fee that the Tasmanian.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Government will need to pay the AFL should they not
have a stadium ready for twenty twenty. Nice baby has
attack saying, yeah, you said you'd be ready, but you haven't.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
So you've got and it's in the millions.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
The other huge thing of note when it comes to
Tasmania's AFL team, the Devil's Sam is I know it's
the Foundation jersey.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
But have you seen the jersey sand that they supposed.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I tried to order one.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Oh, hang on, Okay, do you think it's Do you
think it's nice? Do you think it's nice?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I think it's unreal?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
What Sam?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, I'm in the very very small minority of people
who go I look at that and I go, you
know what? That is going to be a one to
keep forever?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Okay, Well, I can see it as a collector's edition,
I can. I can see he is a collector's item. However, Sam,
do you agree with me that it does kind of
look like Filopian Chube. That's I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
I'm just saying, yeah, Look, it's not subtle in the
way that they've composed that jersey, but it's Tazzy time
and time. And what better way to say is Tazzy
time than a big map of Tazzy and a Philopian
tube right in the Miliga.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Chess and they are very patriotic. I love it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I love that we'll be able to use that little
piece of audio Sam, whenever it's like what it'll come back,
and I just love it so much. I think we're
all in agreement though, that we are a fan of
Tazzy getting a team. We do have to keep racing
through because we have so many more highlights to get through.
Because it turns out that twenty twenty four may have
been the never ending highlight season.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I mean, of all of all of the events, a
particular event, oh god it midea.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Also one of the more challenging things, Sam, I don't
know if you experienced this, not being able to say Olympic,
that would be a disadvantaging legal reasons during an Olympic year,
was my idea of Everest.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I could not climb it. I only got to base camp.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, yeah, no, we we had some lovely little experimental
run ins with where the lawyer is and where the
lawyer isn't. I'm using the word Olympic and the thing
in Paris, and they're very particular, very particular about and
they've got a big asset to protect.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well if we got that reason, the Green and Gold
edition of Two Good Sports was one of our highlights
of the year and the fact that we got to
every day come in and have a chat about Australia's
ever Olympics and in those two weeks we.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Also had our greatest ever day at the Games.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
But one of the headlines that you've chosen to highlight
and we love this, Oh we agree, Jess and Miami Fox.
Is there a more marketable duo in Australasia?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
What was your highlight out of the Fox family at
the Paris Games?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Look, I'm just such a fan of stories in sport
and people and emotion and there was no more beautiful
display of what the family can achieve together than just
being in their corners for every single race. You know,
the parents running along the banks of the Whitewater rafting course.
(22:32):
It was just this unbridled sense of their actually getting
so much out of each other's victories. And I actually
think that was the magic ingredient that got them, both
Jess and Naomi over the line was they just had
this support network that was under slave for the entire
country that made me bounce out of bed at whatever frickin' time.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It was stupid.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Just so you know, Sam jeremies on record as wanting
to change her name to Jess Fox at certain times
of that Olympic campaign.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
She's been everywhere. She was at Victorian Fashion Week.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
She also started presenting the sport for nine and I
was like, baby, if you want my job.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I get it. Take it. At this point, how talented
can one human be?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
But you mentioned the story and I think that's why
we all loved it so much, but particularly no Amy,
who had never been able to qualify for games because
her sister had taken the one and only spot that
was available for Australia. So we remember that she was
consistently one of the best paddlers in the world. The
problem was her sister just happened to be the greatest.
(23:41):
That we've ever seen, and you mentioned the family connection,
both of them trained by their mum, Miriam, who also
won bronze in the kayak, and her dad Richard. Part
of the commentary, so all of a sudden, we are
all chips in on this family. Jess is the flag bearer,
like it was just beautiful. But to see no Amy
in the high at Cross win that gold after Jess
(24:02):
had already won two and she did it outright. She
had to beat her sister and the hates to get there,
so it wasn't like Jess just didn't compete well.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
At one time. Our favorite stat from the Green and
Gold edition of Two Good Sports was that the Fox family,
just as a family represented like sixteenth on the overall tally,
like equal with Ireland. Like what, Sam, I actually don't
know the answer to this. So this could be a
great part of the podcast or one part that we cut.
But do you have any siblings?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Two younger brothers?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Okay, how would you go sibling rivalry if this was
your family?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Oh mate, none of us could perform at that level.
We are all we're all lanky Injury prize.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Six foot, you're already meeting the KP.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Come on, I'm the sureest one. I'm the suret I'm
the surest sun.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Go rowings calling. I just need one more.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Maybe the Dacona. How much could be the DACONI.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I don't know how much we like hard work.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Leads a family of twenty, It leads a family, leads
an office of twenty.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, that's a very dramatic family. But I think the
other thing I noticed from watching Jess and Nurmi is
just how physically tough that sport is. And there are
some sports you watch at the Olympics and you go, yeah,
I reckon, I could probably shoot a bow and arrow.
I reckon that that doesn't look too bad.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yes, I've said that quite a few times, Like Georgie's
on the record of archery, how hard.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah I could, I could legalless man, possibly go wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, but this one, this sport just the core strength
and the speed and the coordination and the tenacity, but
also the margin for error. Like one turn and that's
your gold medal gone.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
The initial drop in the kayak.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Crossh we both drown.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
We both strategically to flip your kayak. Yeah, your turn
and then you flip yourself back up.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You'd be fine. Saying, because you're a nipper from way back,
so you'd be all good, you'd be ambulance. Get out,
get us out.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
If you throw on a battle to the side, someone
pull me out. At least it wasn't in the river
send because that was another highlight for us. It's just
how filthy and how much money they had to put
into that. We will leave the open water swimming because
that was a bit of a low light. But while
we're talking about swimming, Alexi Leary, I.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Think possibly arguably our best good sport of the year.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Done, done done.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
We're giving it to her.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Hadigorically in terms of I steal. Sam can't listen to
that audio without crying. Oh yes, when her dad is
talking about when she qualifies for the Games, after all
that she'd been through, the traumatic brain injury and everything else,
she simply is a joy, an absolute joy. But why
(26:41):
did the Alexilary story in particular speak to you?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I think it was again, sorry to pick two stories
just based on just how emotional they were.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But Hi, welcome to Welcome to it weekly.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, it's literally what drives us.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, yeah, the sight of somebody who had over in
such a short period of time, and we're talking here
a couple of years ago, Like we're not talking about
this happened twenty years ago. And this is my journey
since this is a very contemporary event. For her to
come to her first Paralympic Games and not only excel
(27:17):
in the individual races, but then jump in and like
kill it in the medley relay was just an amazing site.
You then back that up with her on microphone performances
and you've got yourself a superstar. And you know, the
Paralympics was such an incredible ten days of sport. Every event,
(27:38):
I was jumping onto Wikipedia and trying to find out
the stories of the athletes that we were seeing. Yeah,
and Alexiliary, for me captured the spirit of the Paralympic Games,
and I think.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
What struck us and has stayed with us since. Jellmy
it's fair to say, is Sam, how do you go
with like taking a compliment, so with like people saying,
oh my gosh, it's us saying it's incredible that you,
you know, are in control of a twenty person newsroom
and that you've built this career up from nothing to
where it is now. And the Daily OS is a
(28:09):
legitimate news sign now being that way, Yeah, Like, how
do you go taking a compliment?
Speaker 4 (28:14):
I like to try and just make a joke.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yes, very Australian of you.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah yeah. Whereas what we loved about Alexa was that
she was out there being like, I am so proud
of myself. I have done this incredible thing that no
one else can do. Yes, and I feel amazing, but
I've done that.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
It was this unbridled pride and joy. And then for
me it was the cutting to the parents in the
stands that said we were told to say goodbye to
her several times.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Russ is Everyone's dad, Their dad, Russ Everyone's dad.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
The fact they turned off the machine expecting her not
to breathe, and then by some miracle she had and
that again, if it was a movie, you'd just go wow,
they put some mail on that one. And yet it's
absolutely perfect. And I love seeing the coverage that she's
received since, because it hasn't been check out this para athlete,
(29:12):
it's been check out this Australian icon, get to know Alexa.
And I think that again, the more that those stories
can permeate so that you're not having to look up Wikipedia,
you just know the stories of our parer athletes. And
again that's something that I think that brands are getting
on board with finally a lot more.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Now you will not see a campaign that has just
an Olympian. It will be a Paralympian.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And it's often the Paralympian story that actually hits you more,
it makes you feel more.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
But we definitely can do a better job, especially as media,
of not just talking about it every four years totally.
How you know, our challenge as sports journals is to
figure out ways, easy ways. That's such incredible stuff happening
all the time to talk about our Paralympic athletes, not
just in four years in.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
LA You're here, here, here, Alexa for Prime Minister. Oh,
just call it outrageous.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
We're after I think we're going to ask outrageous predictions.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
So we're here.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yes, Well, she'd change our Australian anthem because she's got
a real good ear for music and I love all that.
I'm all for it. I'm all for it, yes, Sam
here on two Good Sports. We do like to make
a crazy prediction. I'm on the record as saying that
the would win the Bledderslow Cup. I'm also on the
record as saying Saint Kilda would finish in the top four.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You also said Brisbane would win the flag when no
one else would.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
So I mean one out of three am bad.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
One out of three am bad? Not bad, Sam. I
want your craziest prediction for the year twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I think this is going to be the year that
we see an Australian tennis player win a Grand Slam.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's how good.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
My question is, is it Nick curios after he's announced
his comeback.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
No, but genuinely.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
It's absolutely not Nick Curious. I'll go on the record
the same mate.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I was outrageous.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I've been over Alex Dimenor, who happens to be in
the top ten, and I'm just cowboyed in.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
And I would also keep my eye on Alexi Popren.
I think between Demonor and Popren we have some serious
talent in the male side of the drawer and I
think this could be the one.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
There's room at the top. There is there is room
at the top. And to be fair, what about you guys, Oh.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I am going to say that I do think, go on,
everyone will be stunned that the Brisbane Broncos far Out
will feature once again in the NRL Finals. We're going
to be back and I think we're going to make
top four, which Sam, if you don't know, we went
from Grand finalists to not even in the picture. So
that's going to be a big comeback. That's what I'm predicting.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I'm going to say that in twenty twenty five because
of the return of sprint, but the Olympic ddition, so
we get to see Noah Lyles and all the drama.
We are going to see track and field athletes for
the first time ever really permeate household names and very
cool and become the rock stars that they really are.
(32:09):
And I think this vehicle that is Netflix and the like,
I think the momentum for the first time post Games
is going to continue because they're making names themselves.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I want to see what don't you think?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Like, I just imagine the Olympic Edition. I can't now
it's coming out.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
You'd never see us again because we'd just be watching
that on repeat again and again and again. Well, I
fear for us. I fear for us. How will we eat?
How will we sleep? How will we drink?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
How will we do anything?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
We are we are born to bing it, but I
am a bit of a I love my footy, but
I also love my drack and field and I think
it's never been given it's time in the sun to
the level of which we're about to see, and I
think that will be really cool.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Unfortunately we have run out of time on this incredible
highlights edition. It has been the joy of our lives.
Bringing this series too this year has been incredible. The
green and Gold addition was a highlight for both of us.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I think also, if you want more sport, which everyone does,
remember The Daily ODS does have a sports newsletter from
a man that described sport.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Is the love of his life. Yeah, so I dare
say it's going to cover a few topics.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
As always, thank you so much for listening to Two
Good Sports in twenty twenty four. This has been an
iHeart production. Sam thanking you make sure that you do.
If you don't follow the Daily Oohs, Actually not sure
If you're no which rock sure sure as always follow
us on Instagram at two Good Sports Podcasts.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Be a good sport.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Bye bye,
Here at two Good Sports. We would like to acknowledge
the traditional owners of the land on which we record
this podcast. There were Inurie people. This land was never seated,
always was always will be. Hello and welcome to two
Good Sports sports news told differently. I'm Georgie Tunnan for the.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Last time in twenty twenty four for Two Good Sports.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I am abbe jelmy.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I cannot believe that we're almost at the point of
the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Like Christmas decorations are up, I am not prepared.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Remember when you go into the supermarket for the first
time and you see the puddings and your life past.
That is a lightning bolt. A lightning bolt, because it's
coming earlier and earlier. But I can't believe that this
year is actually over.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm sad that crazy the season's over for us. There's
still so much sports to come. But we have absolutely
loved it and we do have a special app today.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
George, Yes, we do today. I'm so excited to say
that we're joined by a very special guest on this episode,
this very special episode of Two Good Sports. It's Sam
Kuselowski from The Daily Ohs. And Sam, first of all,
did I now the pronunciation of your last night, or
have I completely butchered it?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
You know what, Georgie, you did better than most of
my high school.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
That means I botched it it Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Nearly nearly Koselowski. But as with any good ethnic boy,
you know, we'll take what we can get and we'll
just run with it.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Can I take gelmy, jelmy, gabby, abby, whatever you want
to lob up?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
At this point, we just stop it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I'm gonna I'm gonna blame it on my Queensland accent.
That's what I'm going to do. I think, I think
that's how.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It's how it's spelled.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, Sam, of course we know who you are, and
I had the absolute joy of being sat next to
you at a function earlier this year and we just
completely clicked because you are delightful, but you're also incredibly
impressive in your professional life with the Daily Ohs, Can
you please introduce yourself to our dear listeners who, unless
they've been living under rock, I feel like you already
(01:58):
know who you are, but just in case, just in case.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah. So, I'm the co founder of The Daily Os
with the equally delightful Zara Sidler and the two of
us started the Daily ODS just as two friends wanting
to give news to our friends in twenty seventeens. I
was twenty two and she was twenty and then we
were working in other jobs and all that kind of stuff,
and then we quit our jobs in twenty twenty one
and went full time on the Daily Ohs. And now
(02:21):
I've got a newsroom of twenty young people here in Sydney.
We've got Instagram, TikTok, newsletters, podcasts, you know, we're starting
to make more videos, and we just launched our sport newsletter.
So it's it's just an absolute joy to be giving
news to young Australians, and not just young Australians, but
every Australian.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Hopefully I'm gonna say every single Australian, because I feel
that the Daily OS is an empire.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
What it is that it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's genuinely how I would say, the majority of people
I know in my circle, but then even just in
this country get their information right now, like it's incredible.
You mentioned your sports newsletter, Sam, which we are avid
fans of obvious reasons. But what I'd love to get
you to do. We know who you are now as
a person, as a professional person as well, but who
are you as a sports person?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Well, it's everything to me, like it's the love of
my life is sport.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Hello to your beautiful wife. By the way, Oh my go.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
She knows, she knows, and that's they have to get
that off the top. She gets it, she loves it.
I've converted her to be a Swans fan. We're all good.
But my dad was the sports editor of the Sydney
Morning Herald and he was in that position for quite
a while, and I grew up from I mean literally,
if you look up my birth announcement in the Sydney
Morning Herald in December of nineteen ninety four, the entire
(03:43):
thing is a cricket analogy. And the first photo I
ever have is me lying in a batpad, so I
didn't really have a choice. And then the earliest memory
I have is the Sydney Olympics. I was five years
old watching Kathy Freeman run around the track. And then
when I was seventeen. Oh so, I think the other
(04:04):
important thing to mention is I was really into surf
life saving and nippers, so that was my big sport
when I was younger, and then I had a really
bad knee injury when I was thirteen, and I've had
four knee reconstructions.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Wowow.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
And at that time, that's when a psychologist at the
time said you should start riding about sport because you're
you can't be playing it.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Your body's shutting down.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
That's it. And that's when I fell in love with journalism.
And so at seventeen, I started at Fox Sports and
I was at Fox Sports for five years and I
worked on everything from you know, the overnight shifts as
a journalist all the way through to being part of
the team that launched Ko Sports and the first kind
of streaming service. And then I became a lawyer for
five minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But sport, I mean, you're real underachiever, Sam a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I was a lawyer for five minutes.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It was terrible. I was terrible.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
If I could throw that into a conversation, I would
at any given point, even.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Though you're a lawyer for five seconds, Sam to people
will be honest, Do they come to you for legal advice?
Because I would.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah. They say, I've got a friend who was caught
at a nightclub with I say, go talk to someone
who's still got a license.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well, the nice thing is there's a bit of synergy
here because Georgie and I actually met at Fox Sports Wow,
where we were both doing our internship on the same day,
and the poor gentleman that was mentoring us couldn't tell
us apart.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's right, because they're very similar.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
We were both brunette at the time, very difficult to
get across the board. But what I've locked in there
is that the batpad can be can be the new
snoop Oh, I was going a little cricket pad.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
That's gorgeous. When you do it.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I'll send it to you after this. It's incredible, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
But you can feel the passion and the love. And
again if the fact that you're a new South Welshman
and you say footy and I say please clarify and
you go with AFL means that you're a man after
my heart and I've got issues, Sam, But.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
That's okay, that's okay. You're appealing to jell me.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I get it also, And my secret skill is being
able to recite sports commentary from famous man.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Can you do the Leo Barry Leo Barry?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You Starve give him something difficult?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Do you want? You want Nick Davis fourth quarter against
your lung? Obviously, now Davis Davis, I see it, but
I don't believe it. Nick Davis from the pocket?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Love it, love it. Who's your favorite commentator?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Bruce? Is that even a question anymore?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Have you ever met Bruce?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Never? Never? That would I wouldn't know it to say.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know what you do?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Go to water when you meet him, and I promise
you that he is everything you'd hope and dream for.
You should go to Ramwick anytime that he's there and
just linger near the seven broadcast to be near the greatness,
because everything that you'd hope that he would be he is.
But oh, Georgie, we're joined by one of our own. Oh,
this couldn't be more perfect for our finalist.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
This is what I mean, And I just knew it.
That's why genuinely such a special episode coming up, we
are going to be talking with Sam about some of
the big moments of twenty twenty four. We're looking back,
we're looking forward.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Which in an Olympic year is difficult.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It is difficult. It is difficult to pick anything that
outside of the Green and gold. Do you know what
I mean? Like, it's a lot, There's a lot, and yet.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
We managed to ish It's been a huge year in sport.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Oh my god. Massive. We'll be right back with Sam
after this. Yes, we're back topic one of our big, big, big,
big sporting moments for twenty twenty four. Sam from the
(07:33):
Daily Ohs is still with us and Sam, we are
beginning with a rather controversial topic that got Gelmy and
I rather riled up over the course of the year,
and that is the Enhanced Games. My question for you,
first of all, Sam, are you a fan or not
a fan of this concept.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I'm a fan of seeing once and then seeing how
I feel like. I think I'm a fan of how
curious I am to see what could be possible. But
I don't think that it's I just don't think it's
one of those things that's going to be introduced and
then stay there and then one hundred years time they're
going to be saying it's still there.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, And we should point out like a bit more
context for the Enhanced Games is essentially what we calling it,
jem mean, it's like the Olympics but drugs are allowed.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh, it's the doped Game, the doped Games, and the
figurehead in Australia is James Magnuson who competed for Australia
at twenty two.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
He's now thirty two and.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
He said I will reduce myself to the Gills direct
quote in order to firstly the finance on offer. So
it's one hundred thousand US if you just qualify, but
if you break a world record it is a million
dollars US.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, which to have this on offer.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And it's not funded by government, which is the issue
that we're seeing for the Comonwealth Games, and also issues
that we're seeing for the Olympics that is sponsored by
big farmer and big business who just want to see
what this is going to look like. It's so commercially
viable and my god, as much as it pains me,
I want to watch it. And the stat are this
(09:00):
that made me really sad is that over forty percent
of Olympic athletes admitted to water that they were doping.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Wow, that was depressing. So this was a depressing lie.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So doping is already a part of elite sport. They
are saying that with the enhanced Games it will be safer,
but our moral compass says say it ain't so.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
And I actually found one of the most compelling arguments
against the games to be the health risks. Though, in
terms of as soon as you kind of set than
a new bar, people are going to push their bodies
further and further and further, They're going to have more
and more, you know, experimental steroids to get that extra edge,
and the norm of just steroids is going to mean
(09:42):
that there's more, you know, pushing the boundaries, and that's
really dangerous.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Do you know what? Though, even the dangerousness of this
as a concept I think makes it more attractive for
sikos like you two to watch it because this is
this is true. This is an update from our episode
Jellmy Rob Mack. I think I've said his name right.
We don't know and director Ridley Scott are set to
co produce a ten part docu series about.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
The enhanced can't tell me that you're not watching?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, everyone's watching that. That's the thing, right, Everyone's watching that.
But Sam, do you think that?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And this is what we really struggled with was like.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
That you talk about the safety.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So Aaron Desusa, who happens to be a Victorian, he's
a Melbournie and he's the founder and president of this
whole concept. Has said it's not in our interest to
have athletes dropping dead trying to swim the fastest fifty meters.
We will be actually testing and regulating these drugs and
these athletes, which is not something that's offered as part
(10:41):
of the Olympic program.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, but they're guinea pig in my hair. See I'm
a very big sci fi fan, so in my head
they're the guinea pigs. Then for the general populace, these
people haven't died, so therefore let's mass produce this and
see how much how much we can sell.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Which is why billionaires are like, yeah, have my money.
The only thing I can't buy is a longer life.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Do you think it's still important though, for there to
be for sport to be clean, for there to be
this sanctity around that.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
But is it clean?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah? I think that's exactly the point out is that, Yes,
I do, Georgie think that it's important for sports to
be clean, and I mean take aside the economics of
it all, and you know the fact that there's integrity
in sport that makes people a lot of money and
it makes people have jobs and everything because we trust
the sport that we're watching. There are health issues that
(11:30):
are associated with drugs that make your body do things
that your body shouldn't do. And as we then have
these enhanced games where they say they're going to regulate it,
humans like to cheat. It's part of humanity to push
the boundaries and get around the rules. So good luck
to him if he thinks that he's going to regulate
a bunch of roided up kind of athletes in their
(11:52):
twilight era of their careers who are not going to
figure out ways to push the boundaries.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, our other point around this, for it wouldn't be
so attractive to these athletes that have retired if they
had made enough money as athletes competing at an Olympic
level during the Games, that this money wasn't attractive, and
yet it is. So we're seeing that athletes that are
in the podium of the best in the world have
a full time job in addition to training because the
(12:20):
money that they receive, Like I think the average Australian
Olympian if they were just to live off what they
made at the Olympics, is below the poverty line.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
There's obviously outliers responsors of that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But we have to look at the structure of the
Olympics of going Why is being a guinea pig for
Big Farmer attractive enough that they've got people signing up.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I do think a positive of the Games is that
it does raise these uncomfortable conversations right for people to
have and all different platforms at all different levels. I
have an uncomfortable question though, for Sam before we move
to our next topic in this Year in Review episode,
which is if you were to compete in the Enhanced Games, Sam, you.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Competing in so we've got to remember it's just track
and field.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oh yeah, it's a scale down.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, it'll shock you that.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Boxing got to look in and I think it's like
weightlifting as well as like basically that's it. They've basically gone,
what do we not have to build infrastructure for?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Keep it clean? Line? So out of.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Those, out of those, Sam, I'm going to pick gymnastics
For Sam, I reckon.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Well, I'm six for' two so and I've always wanted
to lean into to my weight and height, so maybe
I'd go long jump.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That's a good short sprint. Yes, send me thirty meters
long ways. I'm good to go.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I love that we all know that I'm trying to
be someone Biles and for you little Dolphin. Oh actually, actually, yeah,
that's so true. That is actually true. Maybe I could
do both.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Let's be honest. I'm doing none of them.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But what I am doing is watching, and I can
pretend to have all the moral high ground that I
want in terms of doping in sport makes me sick,
which it does. But will I be watching this Disney
series oh with popcorn? And will I be watching the
enhanced games when it happens, we will have a viewing party.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
But maybe then commentators need to step up and also
start doping. And you can just have like a whole
bottle of riddle and and you can you can speak
faster and remember more than you ever have before.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Oh my god, the play by play on that imagine,
I'm ready, ready, give me a mill to qualify and
I'm on, I'll be the next Bruce Mcamaney.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I won't even get to those heights. And that's the
next question as well. Will we see world records tumble
because of the doping or is it uncomfortable when people
are doping to the eyeballs and they still can't get
near the.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
World part of the story, which is part of the story.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
But anyway, that is one of the stories that was
our highlight of the year. Another one which I'd honestly
forgotten a little bit about because it's taken a back seat,
but it was huge at the time is Tasmania is
getting an AFL team, the Tazzy Devils. And the funniest
part for us was all the questions around the trademark
of the Tazzy Devils, because Warner Brothers said, no, you don't.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And it was only when.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They realized that the Tazzy Devil was a legitimate name
of an animal that we have in Australia that they
decided to let us have a little bit of a
trademark there. So we have a name, we have a guernsey.
But more remarkably, they have two hundred thousand founding members.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yes, it's just incredible.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It went game busters, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Are you Are you one of them?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Sam?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I know you're a swans Man.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
But the people just jumped on board the support what they.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Did they did and are you a fan of the
concept of Tazzy getting an AFL team.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'm a massive fan of I think there should be
an AFL team in every state and territory. As we
can get to that point as quick as possible, then
it will truly be, you know, a nationally representative sport.
I think it makes such a difference to local communities
when they can back a team that they feel like
is theirs, and you know, you start to get to
(16:04):
have jobs around the club and a junior footy program,
and it's just such an awesome thing. I just really
want to see that team running onto the field. What
you do?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
They start twenty twenty eight, right, so.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
We've got a little bit of a little bit of time.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
But they need to have a stadium by twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yes, and I'm sam on the record as being not
a fan of even just the plan for their current stadium,
which I know is still very contentious. They're still fighting
about whether or not it's going to go ahead. But
the initial plan was something like a twenty something thousand
seat stadium.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And needed a run and need it was twenty three
thousand and needed a roof, is what Andrew Dillon, the
AFL were like, oh, you can have one, you need
to build this, so it was on the government.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Whereas I think that short sighted. We're seeing with smaller
venues around the country, just like in terms of using
that venue for other sports, for artists, huge artists, that
they just avoid those kind of capacity stadiums like it's no,
it's not possible.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'm going to put a counter argument to Sam and
he can decide which one of us he agrees with you.
I think it's the right size because if you head
to the showgrounds or enng Stadium to watch the Giants,
who are a highly successful AFL franchise, yes, not in
an AFL state so to speak, you are struggling even
in finals to fill that stadium and to get the
(17:24):
energy that should be required for sporting events to feel great.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
But if you build a great stadium, you can get
bigger acts there and it's not just footy, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
But for what it's primarily going to be used for,
for the population in Tasmania.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I think twenty three is a really good idea, Sam, Sam, so.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I have well, i think I'm going to agree with
both of you. I think sorry, sorry, sorry, Sam, I
think there is a way I remember seeing at the time.
I can't exactly remember who propose it, but there is
a way to basically construct a stadium that can feel
packed at twenty thousand people but has easy ways to
convert it and scale it up. Oh and so it's.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Like one of those tables at Christmas that you have
about some extra step.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yes, this time.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Slightly more infrastructure spend, I think, but there's you know,
like even something as simple as just leaving one side
of the stadium to be a hill with the ability
to build a stand.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
On yeah, adelaide oval.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah, yeah, there are ways to think about this so
that we can know when it is twenty thousand people
a game, then we can say, all right, let's scale
this baby up and go to thirty five and then
fifty and then the next MCG not.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Too flag issue. Is there a roof with a hill?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
No? No roof.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
No, it needs to have. The AFL wanted a roof.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And I'm going to tell you, as someone who has
done boundary from Blunston Arena, it is.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Cold, Sam.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, but you mentioned the stadium and the build and
the infrastructure. It's twenty twenty four. It's hard to build
a House in two years. We still don't have a
stadium that's approved. We still don't have a government that
have said we're green lighting this. I am so dubious
as to whether or not this is going to be
completed by twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
And there is a fee that the Tasmanian.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Government will need to pay the AFL should they not
have a stadium ready for twenty twenty. Nice baby has
attack saying, yeah, you said you'd be ready, but you haven't.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
So you've got and it's in the millions.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
The other huge thing of note when it comes to
Tasmania's AFL team, the Devil's Sam is I know it's
the Foundation jersey.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
But have you seen the jersey sand that they supposed.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I tried to order one.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Oh, hang on, Okay, do you think it's Do you
think it's nice? Do you think it's nice?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I think it's unreal?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
What Sam?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, I'm in the very very small minority of people
who go I look at that and I go, you
know what? That is going to be a one to
keep forever?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Okay, Well, I can see it as a collector's edition,
I can. I can see he is a collector's item. However, Sam,
do you agree with me that it does kind of
look like Filopian Chube. That's I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
I'm just saying, yeah, Look, it's not subtle in the
way that they've composed that jersey, but it's Tazzy time
and time. And what better way to say is Tazzy
time than a big map of Tazzy and a Philopian
tube right in the Miliga.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Chess and they are very patriotic. I love it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I love that we'll be able to use that little
piece of audio Sam, whenever it's like what it'll come back,
and I just love it so much. I think we're
all in agreement though, that we are a fan of
Tazzy getting a team. We do have to keep racing
through because we have so many more highlights to get through.
Because it turns out that twenty twenty four may have
been the never ending highlight season.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I mean, of all of all of the events, a
particular event, oh god it midea.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Also one of the more challenging things, Sam, I don't
know if you experienced this, not being able to say Olympic,
that would be a disadvantaging legal reasons during an Olympic year,
was my idea of Everest.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I could not climb it. I only got to base camp.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, yeah, no, we we had some lovely little experimental
run ins with where the lawyer is and where the
lawyer isn't. I'm using the word Olympic and the thing
in Paris, and they're very particular, very particular about and
they've got a big asset to protect.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well if we got that reason, the Green and Gold
edition of Two Good Sports was one of our highlights
of the year and the fact that we got to
every day come in and have a chat about Australia's
ever Olympics and in those two weeks we.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Also had our greatest ever day at the Games.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
But one of the headlines that you've chosen to highlight
and we love this, Oh we agree, Jess and Miami Fox.
Is there a more marketable duo in Australasia?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Probably not.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
What was your highlight out of the Fox family at
the Paris Games?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Look, I'm just such a fan of stories in sport
and people and emotion and there was no more beautiful
display of what the family can achieve together than just
being in their corners for every single race. You know,
the parents running along the banks of the Whitewater rafting course.
(22:32):
It was just this unbridled sense of their actually getting
so much out of each other's victories. And I actually
think that was the magic ingredient that got them, both
Jess and Naomi over the line was they just had
this support network that was under slave for the entire
country that made me bounce out of bed at whatever frickin' time.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It was stupid.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Just so you know, Sam jeremies on record as wanting
to change her name to Jess Fox at certain times
of that Olympic campaign.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
She's been everywhere. She was at Victorian Fashion Week.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
She also started presenting the sport for nine and I
was like, baby, if you want my job.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I get it. Take it. At this point, how talented
can one human be?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
But you mentioned the story and I think that's why
we all loved it so much, but particularly no Amy,
who had never been able to qualify for games because
her sister had taken the one and only spot that
was available for Australia. So we remember that she was
consistently one of the best paddlers in the world. The
problem was her sister just happened to be the greatest.
(23:41):
That we've ever seen, and you mentioned the family connection,
both of them trained by their mum, Miriam, who also
won bronze in the kayak, and her dad Richard. Part
of the commentary, so all of a sudden, we are
all chips in on this family. Jess is the flag bearer,
like it was just beautiful. But to see no Amy
in the high at Cross win that gold after Jess
(24:02):
had already won two and she did it outright. She
had to beat her sister and the hates to get there,
so it wasn't like Jess just didn't compete well.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
At one time. Our favorite stat from the Green and
Gold edition of Two Good Sports was that the Fox family,
just as a family represented like sixteenth on the overall tally,
like equal with Ireland. Like what, Sam, I actually don't
know the answer to this. So this could be a
great part of the podcast or one part that we cut.
But do you have any siblings?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Two younger brothers?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Okay, how would you go sibling rivalry if this was
your family?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Oh mate, none of us could perform at that level.
We are all we're all lanky Injury prize.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Six foot, you're already meeting the KP.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Come on, I'm the sureest one. I'm the suret I'm
the surest sun.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Go rowings calling. I just need one more.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Maybe the Dacona. How much could be the DACONI.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I don't know how much we like hard work.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Leads a family of twenty, It leads a family, leads
an office of twenty.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, that's a very dramatic family. But I think the
other thing I noticed from watching Jess and Nurmi is
just how physically tough that sport is. And there are
some sports you watch at the Olympics and you go, yeah,
I reckon, I could probably shoot a bow and arrow.
I reckon that that doesn't look too bad.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yes, I've said that quite a few times, Like Georgie's
on the record of archery, how hard.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah I could, I could legalless man, possibly go wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, but this one, this sport just the core strength
and the speed and the coordination and the tenacity, but
also the margin for error. Like one turn and that's
your gold medal gone.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
The initial drop in the kayak.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Crossh we both drown.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
We both strategically to flip your kayak. Yeah, your turn
and then you flip yourself back up.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You'd be fine. Saying, because you're a nipper from way back,
so you'd be all good, you'd be ambulance. Get out,
get us out.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
If you throw on a battle to the side, someone
pull me out. At least it wasn't in the river
send because that was another highlight for us. It's just
how filthy and how much money they had to put
into that. We will leave the open water swimming because
that was a bit of a low light. But while
we're talking about swimming, Alexi Leary, I.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Think possibly arguably our best good sport of the year.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Done, done done.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
We're giving it to her.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Hadigorically in terms of I steal. Sam can't listen to
that audio without crying. Oh yes, when her dad is
talking about when she qualifies for the Games, after all
that she'd been through, the traumatic brain injury and everything else,
she simply is a joy, an absolute joy. But why
(26:41):
did the Alexilary story in particular speak to you?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I think it was again, sorry to pick two stories
just based on just how emotional they were.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But Hi, welcome to Welcome to it weekly.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah, it's literally what drives us.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, yeah, the sight of somebody who had over in
such a short period of time, and we're talking here
a couple of years ago, Like we're not talking about
this happened twenty years ago. And this is my journey
since this is a very contemporary event. For her to
come to her first Paralympic Games and not only excel
(27:17):
in the individual races, but then jump in and like
kill it in the medley relay was just an amazing site.
You then back that up with her on microphone performances
and you've got yourself a superstar. And you know, the
Paralympics was such an incredible ten days of sport. Every event,
(27:38):
I was jumping onto Wikipedia and trying to find out
the stories of the athletes that we were seeing. Yeah,
and Alexiliary, for me captured the spirit of the Paralympic Games,
and I think.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
What struck us and has stayed with us since. Jellmy
it's fair to say, is Sam, how do you go
with like taking a compliment, so with like people saying,
oh my gosh, it's us saying it's incredible that you,
you know, are in control of a twenty person newsroom
and that you've built this career up from nothing to
where it is now. And the Daily OS is a
(28:09):
legitimate news sign now being that way, Yeah, Like, how
do you go taking a compliment?
Speaker 4 (28:14):
I like to try and just make a joke.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yes, very Australian of you.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah yeah. Whereas what we loved about Alexa was that
she was out there being like, I am so proud
of myself. I have done this incredible thing that no
one else can do. Yes, and I feel amazing, but
I've done that.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
It was this unbridled pride and joy. And then for
me it was the cutting to the parents in the
stands that said we were told to say goodbye to
her several times.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Russ is Everyone's dad, Their dad, Russ Everyone's dad.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
The fact they turned off the machine expecting her not
to breathe, and then by some miracle she had and
that again, if it was a movie, you'd just go wow,
they put some mail on that one. And yet it's
absolutely perfect. And I love seeing the coverage that she's
received since, because it hasn't been check out this para athlete,
(29:12):
it's been check out this Australian icon, get to know Alexa.
And I think that again, the more that those stories
can permeate so that you're not having to look up Wikipedia,
you just know the stories of our parer athletes. And
again that's something that I think that brands are getting
on board with finally a lot more.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Now you will not see a campaign that has just
an Olympian. It will be a Paralympian.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And it's often the Paralympian story that actually hits you more,
it makes you feel more.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
But we definitely can do a better job, especially as media,
of not just talking about it every four years totally.
How you know, our challenge as sports journals is to
figure out ways, easy ways. That's such incredible stuff happening
all the time to talk about our Paralympic athletes, not
just in four years in.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
LA You're here, here, here, Alexa for Prime Minister. Oh,
just call it outrageous.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
We're after I think we're going to ask outrageous predictions.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
So we're here.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yes, Well, she'd change our Australian anthem because she's got
a real good ear for music and I love all that.
I'm all for it. I'm all for it, yes, Sam
here on two Good Sports. We do like to make
a crazy prediction. I'm on the record as saying that
the would win the Bledderslow Cup. I'm also on the
record as saying Saint Kilda would finish in the top four.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You also said Brisbane would win the flag when no
one else would.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
So I mean one out of three am bad.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
One out of three am bad? Not bad, Sam. I
want your craziest prediction for the year twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I think this is going to be the year that
we see an Australian tennis player win a Grand Slam.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's how good.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
My question is, is it Nick curios after he's announced
his comeback.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
No, but genuinely.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
It's absolutely not Nick Curious. I'll go on the record
the same mate.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I was outrageous.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I've been over Alex Dimenor, who happens to be in
the top ten, and I'm just cowboyed in.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
And I would also keep my eye on Alexi Popren.
I think between Demonor and Popren we have some serious
talent in the male side of the drawer and I
think this could be the one.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
There's room at the top. There is there is room
at the top. And to be fair, what about you guys, Oh.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I am going to say that I do think, go on,
everyone will be stunned that the Brisbane Broncos far Out
will feature once again in the NRL Finals. We're going
to be back and I think we're going to make
top four, which Sam, if you don't know, we went
from Grand finalists to not even in the picture. So
that's going to be a big comeback. That's what I'm predicting.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I'm going to say that in twenty twenty five because
of the return of sprint, but the Olympic ddition, so
we get to see Noah Lyles and all the drama.
We are going to see track and field athletes for
the first time ever really permeate household names and very
cool and become the rock stars that they really are.
(32:09):
And I think this vehicle that is Netflix and the like,
I think the momentum for the first time post Games
is going to continue because they're making names themselves.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I want to see what don't you think?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Like, I just imagine the Olympic Edition. I can't now
it's coming out.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
You'd never see us again because we'd just be watching
that on repeat again and again and again. Well, I
fear for us. I fear for us. How will we eat?
How will we sleep? How will we drink?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
How will we do anything?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
We are we are born to bing it, but I
am a bit of a I love my footy, but
I also love my drack and field and I think
it's never been given it's time in the sun to
the level of which we're about to see, and I
think that will be really cool.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Unfortunately we have run out of time on this incredible
highlights edition. It has been the joy of our lives.
Bringing this series too this year has been incredible. The
green and Gold addition was a highlight for both of us.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I think also, if you want more sport, which everyone does,
remember The Daily ODS does have a sports newsletter from
a man that described sport.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Is the love of his life. Yeah, so I dare
say it's going to cover a few topics.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
As always, thank you so much for listening to Two
Good Sports in twenty twenty four. This has been an
iHeart production. Sam thanking you make sure that you do.
If you don't follow the Daily Oohs, Actually not sure
If you're no which rock sure sure as always follow
us on Instagram at two Good Sports Podcasts.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Be a good sport.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Bye bye,
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