August 21, 2023 • 25 mins
Australia has embraced the Matildas and women's football. A record-breaking Women's World Cup has seen our Tillies inspire the nation, going further than any Aussie team has before. But has this moment changed Australian sport forever? And what will it take to secure the future of the game?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm Georgie Tunney and I'm Abbe Jelmy and George.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
When we started this podcast, we were very adamant that, look,
we want to talk about women's sport, but only when
it's relevant and current. We just don't want to talk
about it for the sake of it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Very fitting for.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Our first episode, the only thing the country is talking
about is the Matilda's and how immensely successful the World
Cup has been, how it just got into the hearts
and souls of the nation. It's just we're dying to
talk about it, and that's going to be our main
unpack of today.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
But for now, should we get to the headlines.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Headline number one Spain the new world champions. They defeated
England one nil in the World Cup final and I
got a I think that they were the underdogs heading
into this final, the Lioness's after they beat us up
in the semifinal. I think it's fair to say no
one was happy with them, but they really did lack.
(01:13):
I have to say that kind of physicality. In the final,
Spain was able to just run them ragged and turn
them inside out with all of their fast passing. They
were technically brilliant. And they're such a young team. And
for me, for a team to do this with the
turmoil that is happening behind the scenes, if anyone who
doesn't know the story of La Roja, look it up. Basically,
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if we're going to truncate the story. Last October, the
team actually went to their governing body. They wrote a
letter fifteen players saying, we don't really like our coach Vilda.
We're not sure about him, not sure about what's happening
with the team, probably would like a new coach. The
governing body said, you know who, we like the coach.
So twelve of those fifteen players were not selected in
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this squad. So the best players for Spain. You can argue,
never even the trip to Australia or New Zealand for
this World Cup, but this young team has somehow been
able to put that aside and win. It was weird
seeing the celebrations after the game. It was very much
team celebrating, coaching staff, celebrating.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
The thing that we have to say. It speaks so
much to Spain's depth. We know that they were under
seventeen champions, also under twenty champions.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They're under nineteen European champions.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
They're very junior champions.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, and to win given all the drama that had
happened to that point, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
God, what a tournament?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
What a tournament?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
What do we do now?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I actually don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
You know what we do now? We watch AFL AFL.
So let's the final.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
The finals are heating up doorge well, and we're going
to get onto our next headline because this one will
not go away.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
There is a current station revolt.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
South Australia might vote itself off the island because there
was a non review in the Adelaide game against sign Hang.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
On, you're saying they're carving themselves off away from the mainland.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yet they're going to be the new Tasmania start. There's
gonna be a mote of.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Some variety, but essentially the Crows were robbed of a
game winning goal against the Swans on the weekend. There
was only a minute ago, there were two points down.
It was clearly a goal, so much so that ben
Key's was off celebrating.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The umpire called it behind and didn't review it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Sydney very quick to kick it on and continue the game.
Next minute they've lost and it means that they are
no longer in the running for the eight.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
So hang on, hang on. So it was a goal.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It was categorically there are angles and also unfortunately because
everyone has iPhones, there's people behind that have now put
all their stuff on social media been like there was
no deflection. It just categorically was a goal, so much
so that Gilla McLoughlin has come out and said this.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I want to say conclusively that if the decision had
been reviewed, it would have been overturned and it would
have been a goal. It's a human error that happens
repeatedly through games across the course of the year. But
this is an error that given that the context in
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the moment, was of great consequence, and I want to
acknowledge that there was a mistake and I want to
take accountability for the mistake on behalf of the league.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
They go, Crows fans, you wrap yourselves in that accountability
and you call it a day.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
What a soothing, soothing Crows fans and Crows executives are saying, cool,
story bro tell that to our KPI. That is just
making the finals in a professional level. So and also
as fans, making the finals makes you feel differently about
a whole season. Now we have every grate that has
ever kicked the oblong shape ball saying there needs to
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be a change to this. And it's a question like
at the moment, do we go to a var type
system but Gil saying.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
That you already have one, Well, it'll the ARC. But
the thing is, sorry, there's lots of acronyms.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But essentially they're still working on microchip technology.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Microchip techno.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Seriously, that might definitively, but that's apparently a few years away.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I think that's in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You've got the NBA where coaches can have one review,
but will that be used tactically?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Do you say in the NRL you can have a
captain's review on so the captains can go, hey, ref,
I don't agree with that, and then you pause and
you see and you can review it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Then you pause.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So this is the point, because the AFL is in
a position where every time they change something, people revolt going,
don't touch our game.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's the beauty of it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Don't change any here rests and then you get things
up this and.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They're like, well, this can't possibly happen.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Do something and I'd be very interested to see if
it doesn't get reviewed and changed.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Headline three.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
The Victorian government gain three hundred and eighty million to
not host a Commonwealth Games. The final figure has been
confirmed after Dan Andrews came out and said this might
cost six maybe seven billion dollars. Can't confirm to the billion,
but we only estimate it for three is blaming consultants
for the blowout estimates and trying something about trying to
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complete all the needed infrastructure for the time needed by
twenty twenty six. In the context of sport and funding
because it is so topical at the moment, particularly with
women's football. The government put eighty four million dollars to
women's football in the lead up to the Women's World Cup,
so that was forty four million to host the World
Cup itself and forty million dollars for grassroots programs that
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help the Matildas be as strong as what they are.
So we all got to see the benefit of that
funding and since the Albanesi government has pledged two hundred
million dollars to go towards women's football to help bolster
it because it's the most popular thing.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And I think he thought this will looked really good.
We'll give all this money. That's great.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
That's still one hundred million dollars short of Victorian government.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'm paying to not do anything. It's just and we
still don't know. We still don't know where the Common
Games are.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yes, they're still not a host right, No, nothing announced.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And he's like, the good news is we can get
into building all that infrastructure. You do that to be
completed by twenty thirty four.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Just to add three hundred and eighty million dollars onto
that debt pile.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, yuck. It's so yuck.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I just I feel for the athletes, I feel for everything,
and I also feel for the fact that we have
a housing crisis and three hundred and eighty mil to
not have the Common Games is so sad. Not since
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the eyes of the nation were on Kathy Freeman in
two thousand has the Australian sporting public and just the
public stood still for a moment that will be remembered forever.
It seems fitting that this is what she said to
the Matilda's group before this tournament even began.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
The power of what of you just being here is
like unimaginable, Like it's beyond your wildest dreams, what you're
going to be able to do, And you're writing the
name history ladies, and you should be really proud of
That just.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Makes me want to cry.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
The term goosebumps has used a lot in football. It
should be reserved now only for that moment.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Just Queen Kathy just talking. This was before the tournament
even began, before the Women's World Cup. If we could
rewind the last three weeks, I mean you and me, Jeremy,
we were very, very confident that this tournament was going
to be a huge, huge success. But I think it
has to use Kathy's own words there. It has exceeded
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even our wildest dreams. How much the country has embraced
this team.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Unimaginable.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, it was before this unimaginable that you couldn't go
into a store and buy Matilda's jersey.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yes, please note, dear listener, that I am wearing a
Matilda's jersey and someone else it's.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Not cannot get them, which is the point it was,
and it was the fact that it wasn't just girls,
it was boys, it was sports fans, it was non
sports fans. The way that this World's Cup has captured
the imagination and the attention of Australia.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Is just it's mind boggling, and I think to truly
understand and comprehend just how magical dare I say, world
changing this event this last month has been here in Australia.
We have to go back because the Matilda's they now
may be everyone's favorite team. That's a fact, I say.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You said, maybe, yeah, ah, categoric.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, categorically they are everyone's favorite team. But they are
the farthest thing from an overnight success that you could
possibly see. The first outing of Team Australia, they weren't
called the Matildas at first, but Team Australia was in
nineteen seventy eight. Now I'm not great at math, but
that was forty five years ago. And tell me it
was so long ago that in nineteen seventy eight, the
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top number one song in Australia that had captured the
attention the same way that the Matildas have right now
was You're the one that I want from Greece. That's
how long ago that was. That is the context. Okay,
when this team first started playing, So not an overnight success.
Not an overnight success. Now, the team played sporadically through
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the eighties. They still didn't have a team nickname. They
were known as the Soccarettes. No, they were and also
the female soccer Us.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Oh that's worse.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Let's just take a pause to vomit. Now, the nineties
were fast forwarding. The nineties were super significant. Number one,
Jelmy and I were born and we are the Tillies
unofficial number one ticket holders, so that's pretty significant. Some
may argue that nineteen ninety three was more significant, which
was when Sam Kerr was born, which I mean, you know, tomato,
(10:20):
tomato whatever. Now, that team started getting funding around nineteen
ninety four. FIFA also decided that there was going to
be a Women's World Cup, and the sport was added
to the Olympics in the nineties two, so also pretty significant.
The team name of the Matildas was used for the
first time publicly in nineteen ninety five. Despite this, in
nineteen ninety nine, there were still no coverage for this team.
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There was still no real funding making a difference, so
the players actually took part in a nude calendar to
raise awareness for the team and also some much needed
funds to try and keep the profile afloat. Fast forward
two thousand and eight, the WLEA competition started in Australia
and we have a domestic professional competition. June twenty five,
(11:05):
twenty twenty, Australia and New Zealand are confirmed as hosts
of the Women's World Cup. That was only three years ago,
and look where we are now. Like even three years
ago people were like, I guess that could be cool,
and now we've seen just the ramifications or the effects
that that huge moment had. So it's been a slog.
It's been a real slog for recognition, for respect, for coverage,
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for funding, for facilities. Nothing has come easily to this team,
nothing except talent, is what I'll say. So all that toiling,
it leaves a mark. There are scars that they will
stay with, the athletes, the coaches, the fans who bleed
for this sport. But there was a moment during this
World Cup that acted as a seal for me, a
bio oil if you will, to heal those wounds to soothe,
(11:52):
if not heal, the gulf between men's and women's sport
and put an exclamation mark on the phrase it's all
just sport. I give you the goal.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
And here Sam Kerr, she's probably need some support per
running it. Bright Praer with a shot, scenes.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Scenes and deals as you just so eloquently put George
the journey of the Matildas in the lifetime of these players.
Sam Kerr told her family not to come to her
Matilda's debut because it wasn't a big deal. Granted she
was fifteen and fifteen year old probab don't want to
hang out with their family. Yeah, and also when she
was upset that she wasn't going to the Junior Matilda's
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camp because that's where her friends were.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yes, she was too good, but such is.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
The context of how much of a non event Matilda's
Games used to be.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And now you look at the numbers.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
The Australia versus England semi final reached eleven point one
five million, with an average audience of seven point one
three million, and the biggest streaming event ever on seven Play.
But to give context, they're just Channel seven numbers. That's
not off to sport. That's not the scene number. It's
not the scenes that fed square with people losing their mind.
(13:08):
It's not the fact that people said, come to our
house and let's have a viewing party. I think that's
what is unique and beautiful about sport. And there was
something about this World Cup that said, come one.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Come all.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yes, it was a safe space.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Football fanatics, people that have never watched the game before, men, women, boys, girls,
doesn't or anyone anyone. You are welcome here, get your
green and gold on. We'll explain the rules. You still
won't get offside, that's okay, and let's just enjoy something
that was so it was that sense of community, and
I think that goal just solidified Oh yeah, she's just
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that good. Do you know what's hilarious? We haven't discussed penalties.
That for me was the moment where you go, we've
arrived and you speak about Sam Kerr. She was someone
likened it to if it was in the lead up
to the two thousand Olympics. It's like Kathy Freeman doing
a calf in terms of the amount of pressure sponsorship,
number twenty jerseys that were just all about Sam.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And there's a reason for it. She's got golden boots
coming out of very ears.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
She has proven herself on the biggest stage in world
spot and world football. We then have a tournament where
we have to play without her. We get to the
round of six, we play and we assert ourselves without
the key figure that has been. If you ask before
this tournament, who's your favorite Matilda to the average Australian,
Sam Kerr would have been the one that everyone got.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yes, But that's because she would have been the one
that only everyone knew. Right now, we've got stories about
Katrina Gorri and her gorgeous daughter Harper, you know, Caitlin Ford.
She is an absolute superstar and who without Sam Kerr,
who has been her partner, you know pub her partner
striker for the majority of both of their careers. They've
played so much football together, starting back at you know,
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Sydney FC when they were teenagers. And for her to
play without her and make her own mark has been
wonderful to see throughout this tournament. Mary Fowler gloves my love.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I adore this one of the favorite things that I've seen.
And there was and we talk about how much it
infiltrated culture. Yes, you could not go on any form
of social media without seeing memes footage. Everyone will remember
that footage on the plane of the one sod that
was watching Lord.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Of the Rings.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But everyone else is celebrating because they're watching, like it's
those moments of community. But for me, something that there
were ten blokes that went to Bunnings and they bought gloves.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yes, they bought the gardening gloves.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
And they went to the pub because they couldn't get
gerdsies so they had to do something to be on
the foul train. And you just go, that's it's just
so cool, it's so cool. And she's a marketing dream.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
She is a marketing dream. The face, the hair, the just,
the talent, the talent, the past, the pass I know,
I know the pass or the goal.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I think the past will be the making of Mary.
They've grown up in an era where they've never had
this attention or they never thought that being a Matilda
would lead to this attention. Yes, of which brings me
to a point that in a meeting George, you dropped
a name that's in your phone book that was quite
obscene and you haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
God, if I look into my contacts, I am able
to look up the name Sam Kerr and I have
that Sam Curve's phone number right here, I could do it.
Is it still her number? I don't know. Does she
know who I am? Certainly not. But when I was
an intern for ABC covering the then known W League,
she would come on this little interns radio show and
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I would talk to her about the sky Blues and
how they were going because she was just a young
girl from Perth and moved over from Perth Glory and
was starting something pretty magical with Sydney FC. She was
the girl who could run and now she's the face
of everything everything, and that to me gives me the
goosebumps that you're talking about. Like all of these players
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I have been following for the last ten you know,
ten years. I mean, I'm so old, so she's so youthful,
But like ten years I followed them, and now to
see Australia fall in love with them the same way
that I did when you know, I was watching every
single one of their games has just been truly remarkable
and I think world changing because they're in the future.
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There is not going to be a Matilda's game that
isn't sold out. Yes, that from now, every single time
the Matilda's play, people will want to know and people
will want tickets, and that is huge.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I think what's huge is what it needs to do
for the future, and we've heard that from the players.
They're like, this is about legacy, this is about creating change.
We've seen change in the sale of merch we've seen
change in terms of popularity. Obviously we've already talked about
the television numbers. But the next thing and the legacy
that we've heard from the players that they want this
to be about is funding for football in Australia. And
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these are the words of Sam Kerr. We need funding
in our development, we need funding in our grassroots, we
need funding everywhere. She's basically like to shower everything in money.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
We need you get a car, You get a car.
She's like, we need the funding. Give us a fund
of the funding.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
And let's hear are from the great man Toning of
system Tony G.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
I've said it before, it's bigger than ninety minute football.
We're very disappointed at we lost, but hopefully we won
something else. We won the whore and the passion for
this for this game in this country. But I agree
with the players. This is not the end of something.
This needs to be the start of something. And with
that comes to money as well.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Let's talk about that money. The Albanezy government as of
the weekend pledged two hundred million dollars for women's sport. Now,
on the face of it, we've already talked about how
you know Dan Andrews has just given away three hundred
and eighty million dollars for nothing. But on the face
of it, that sounds like a lot of money, right,
But it's not dedicated to football, where it's a lot
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of it I think has been put aside to update
facilities which is great and grounds which is you know,
very overdue. But where is it actually going? Will we
see it implemented in the grassroots pathways that Samka and
Tony g are begging for.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Football has the highest participation levels at a junior level
out of any sport in the country, and then it
just falls away, Yes, particularly at the young girls. The
numbers that break down, and this is just the Queensland
government giving us a bit of numbers here. Football participation
levels is one hundred and eighty thousand plus, but the
infrastructure investment per participant is forty seven dollars ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
What is that by like half a keeper's glove?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Rugby union participants, so not rugby league Rugby union participants
twenty thousand. Last clarification not important important Queen Lake government
infrastructure investments per participant six hundred and fifty five dollars
and twenty seven cents.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah, so you can understand why the girls are like
funding in our sport is like just relative. And honestly,
when was the last time you saw the Wallabies.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
On the back page?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Like it's union at the moment, and isn't one of
the most talked about sports.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I'll have the chance the Rabby World Cup's coming up.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Oh, it's coming, and we want to discuss Eddie and
his anger. But then that'll come at another time, coming
at another time.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
But when you look at those numbers, you can actually
see why it's not attractive or that there's there's not
the appeal there to be involved.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And I do think that the worst thing that could
happen off the back of this tidal wave of support
and popularity and recognition that we have seen since this
World Cup is for any young girl or young boy
to go to their local football team and say I
want to play and they say you can't wear full well.
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Football Australia is predicting that there will be a twenty
percent surge in participation in the sport that is already
the most highly participated for kids in Australia. They think
there's going to be a twenty percent surge on top
of that, I'm going to tell you right now, it'll
be more than that.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It'll be more than that, especially for young girls.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
For young girls, because they want to be the next Samker,
they want to be Mary Fowler. Like, oh my gosh,
I get emotional because I'm just starting to think about it.
Imagine the little girls coming up and playing on the
weekend and they've got gloves on.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
So those numbers Georgia are pretty damning, Yeah, pretty damning. However,
the Queensland Government and a stage of Paliche have pledged
thirty seven million dollars to support women's sport, tripling the
Inclusive Facilities Fund from ten million to thirty million. Ten
million will go towards the Queensland Women's Football Legacy Fund,
so that is dedicated ten million dollars going towards women's
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football and fifty million to active club program, so equipment
and training for ref's volunteers. So they are seeing the
gap and especially in the bridge of what will be
a surge in popularity. They're trying to do something about it,
but you'd argue that it's not going far enough.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
They also have promised a statue, Yes haven't they outside
of Suncorp Stadium or Lang Park.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
There needs to be statues there does Look.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
What I'm saying is is it an either all. Why
can't we be greedy at this moment and say I
want the statues, I want the funding.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yes, I want all of it. We can have it all,
but I think, but we can't fund the game.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I think the.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Importance is that we listen to the players. What they've
given us so much. They've given us so many moments
over the past couple of weeks where we'll remember exactly
where they were. What do they want this legacy to
be about funding and growth in football? And as fans
and viewing public, we can continue to do that with
our eyes.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Ailey Women's coming up.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
There's also so many grassroots teams around this country, junior
clubs that need your support. They need you to volunteer.
They need you to go watch so we can all
do that.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Keep on the bandwagon.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
They're going to keep making us proud, and I think
overwhelmingly we just want to say thank you for a
really beautiful couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Thank you. Tillis tell me it is time for our
favorite segment here on the show, fun Facts. You know
picked up we're kind of sports nerds.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
This is also the part where you say things and
I go pardon fun Facts.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I love it. So what I want to do for
you to say pardon now is I need to take
you back again in time. We're going back. It's a
history lesson the very first Women's World Cup in nineteen
ninety one, great year I was born.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Great year.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Also we had this World Cup. What do you think
was called? It was called the first FIFA World Championship
for Women's Football for the Eminem's Cup.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Sorry, can you how many words? Is that?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
The first speaker Women's World Championship for the Eminem's Cup.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
As a broadcaster who knows how particular they are that
phrasing around tournaments, his bang on, Yes, I would have
knocked out first FIFA World Championship for Women's Football for
the Eminem's Cup and been like it's been lovely seeing
you all.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm going home.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I'm going home, I need nap, I'm going home. Well,
apparently FIFA didn't actually want to call it a World Cup.
They were reluctant to do that because ding ding ding.
They were unsure of how successful the tournament would be,
the possibility that women's football could.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Take off again. This is in the nineties, in.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
The nine season in This is in our lifespan.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
This we're not talking about the fifties where it's like, ooh,
contra women not wearing skirts when.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
They play this.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
This is the nineties where they're like, oh, it's women,
it's the world but you can't possibly call it a
World Cup.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yes, and remember we still didn't. We still weren't technically
known as the Matilda's.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Then funny you should say that Georgie fun fact.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
On top of fun fact, they just keep coming at you.
We talked about the female soccer us being the name,
which is appalling. They also were almost the soccerates, the
blue flyers.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Blue the blue fly, no idea?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Is it a possum? Could you be in green and
gold and also be a blue fly? Very confusing war retas.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Well, we've already got one of them.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I mean they're playing rugby union somewhere. Lour keets lour
keats very intimidating.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
It just doesn't really roll off the tongue, does it.
And the lorrier Keids are tagging on the line And
actually that doesn't sound bad now that I say it
in hindsight.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Well let's just say we've come a long way.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
That is it for their this week's fun Fact, and
that's it for our show today. No, oh my gosh,
you're so sad it's over.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I mean, we'll be back next week.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
There's so much happening in sport this week that it
feels like we've just scraped the surface.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
As always. We'll be back next week.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
And we'll be back next week. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
But just remember biggot Sport
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm Georgie Tunney and I'm Abbe Jelmy and George.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
When we started this podcast, we were very adamant that, look,
we want to talk about women's sport, but only when
it's relevant and current. We just don't want to talk
about it for the sake of it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Very fitting for.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Our first episode, the only thing the country is talking
about is the Matilda's and how immensely successful the World
Cup has been, how it just got into the hearts
and souls of the nation. It's just we're dying to
talk about it, and that's going to be our main
unpack of today.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
But for now, should we get to the headlines.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Headline number one Spain the new world champions. They defeated
England one nil in the World Cup final and I
got a I think that they were the underdogs heading
into this final, the Lioness's after they beat us up
in the semifinal. I think it's fair to say no
one was happy with them, but they really did lack.
(01:13):
I have to say that kind of physicality. In the final,
Spain was able to just run them ragged and turn
them inside out with all of their fast passing. They
were technically brilliant. And they're such a young team. And
for me, for a team to do this with the
turmoil that is happening behind the scenes, if anyone who
doesn't know the story of La Roja, look it up. Basically,
(01:35):
if we're going to truncate the story. Last October, the
team actually went to their governing body. They wrote a
letter fifteen players saying, we don't really like our coach Vilda.
We're not sure about him, not sure about what's happening
with the team, probably would like a new coach. The
governing body said, you know who, we like the coach.
So twelve of those fifteen players were not selected in
(01:55):
this squad. So the best players for Spain. You can argue,
never even the trip to Australia or New Zealand for
this World Cup, but this young team has somehow been
able to put that aside and win. It was weird
seeing the celebrations after the game. It was very much
team celebrating, coaching staff, celebrating.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
The thing that we have to say. It speaks so
much to Spain's depth. We know that they were under
seventeen champions, also under twenty champions.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They're under nineteen European champions.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
They're very junior champions.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, and to win given all the drama that had
happened to that point, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
God, what a tournament?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
What a tournament?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
What do we do now?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I actually don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
You know what we do now? We watch AFL AFL.
So let's the final.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
The finals are heating up doorge well, and we're going
to get onto our next headline because this one will
not go away.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
There is a current station revolt.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
South Australia might vote itself off the island because there
was a non review in the Adelaide game against sign Hang.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
On, you're saying they're carving themselves off away from the mainland.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yet they're going to be the new Tasmania start. There's
gonna be a mote of.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Some variety, but essentially the Crows were robbed of a
game winning goal against the Swans on the weekend. There
was only a minute ago, there were two points down.
It was clearly a goal, so much so that ben
Key's was off celebrating.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The umpire called it behind and didn't review it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Sydney very quick to kick it on and continue the game.
Next minute they've lost and it means that they are
no longer in the running for the eight.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
So hang on, hang on. So it was a goal.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It was categorically there are angles and also unfortunately because
everyone has iPhones, there's people behind that have now put
all their stuff on social media been like there was
no deflection. It just categorically was a goal, so much
so that Gilla McLoughlin has come out and said this.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I want to say conclusively that if the decision had
been reviewed, it would have been overturned and it would
have been a goal. It's a human error that happens
repeatedly through games across the course of the year. But
this is an error that given that the context in
(03:57):
the moment, was of great consequence, and I want to
acknowledge that there was a mistake and I want to
take accountability for the mistake on behalf of the league.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
They go, Crows fans, you wrap yourselves in that accountability
and you call it a day.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
What a soothing, soothing Crows fans and Crows executives are saying, cool,
story bro tell that to our KPI. That is just
making the finals in a professional level. So and also
as fans, making the finals makes you feel differently about
a whole season. Now we have every grate that has
ever kicked the oblong shape ball saying there needs to
(04:32):
be a change to this. And it's a question like
at the moment, do we go to a var type
system but Gil saying.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
That you already have one, Well, it'll the ARC. But
the thing is, sorry, there's lots of acronyms.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But essentially they're still working on microchip technology.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Microchip techno.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Seriously, that might definitively, but that's apparently a few years away.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I think that's in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You've got the NBA where coaches can have one review,
but will that be used tactically?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Do you say in the NRL you can have a
captain's review on so the captains can go, hey, ref,
I don't agree with that, and then you pause and
you see and you can review it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Then you pause.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So this is the point, because the AFL is in
a position where every time they change something, people revolt going,
don't touch our game.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's the beauty of it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Don't change any here rests and then you get things
up this and.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They're like, well, this can't possibly happen.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Do something and I'd be very interested to see if
it doesn't get reviewed and changed.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Headline three.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
The Victorian government gain three hundred and eighty million to
not host a Commonwealth Games. The final figure has been
confirmed after Dan Andrews came out and said this might
cost six maybe seven billion dollars. Can't confirm to the billion,
but we only estimate it for three is blaming consultants
for the blowout estimates and trying something about trying to
(05:49):
complete all the needed infrastructure for the time needed by
twenty twenty six. In the context of sport and funding
because it is so topical at the moment, particularly with
women's football. The government put eighty four million dollars to
women's football in the lead up to the Women's World Cup,
so that was forty four million to host the World
Cup itself and forty million dollars for grassroots programs that
(06:11):
help the Matildas be as strong as what they are.
So we all got to see the benefit of that
funding and since the Albanesi government has pledged two hundred
million dollars to go towards women's football to help bolster
it because it's the most popular thing.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And I think he thought this will looked really good.
We'll give all this money. That's great.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
That's still one hundred million dollars short of Victorian government.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'm paying to not do anything. It's just and we
still don't know. We still don't know where the Common
Games are.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yes, they're still not a host right, No, nothing announced.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And he's like, the good news is we can get
into building all that infrastructure. You do that to be
completed by twenty thirty four.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Just to add three hundred and eighty million dollars onto
that debt pile.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, yuck. It's so yuck.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I just I feel for the athletes, I feel for everything,
and I also feel for the fact that we have
a housing crisis and three hundred and eighty mil to
not have the Common Games is so sad. Not since
(07:17):
the eyes of the nation were on Kathy Freeman in
two thousand has the Australian sporting public and just the
public stood still for a moment that will be remembered forever.
It seems fitting that this is what she said to
the Matilda's group before this tournament even began.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
The power of what of you just being here is
like unimaginable, Like it's beyond your wildest dreams, what you're
going to be able to do, And you're writing the
name history ladies, and you should be really proud of
That just.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Makes me want to cry.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
The term goosebumps has used a lot in football. It
should be reserved now only for that moment.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Just Queen Kathy just talking. This was before the tournament
even began, before the Women's World Cup. If we could
rewind the last three weeks, I mean you and me, Jeremy,
we were very, very confident that this tournament was going
to be a huge, huge success. But I think it
has to use Kathy's own words there. It has exceeded
(08:13):
even our wildest dreams. How much the country has embraced
this team.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Unimaginable.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, it was before this unimaginable that you couldn't go
into a store and buy Matilda's jersey.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yes, please note, dear listener, that I am wearing a
Matilda's jersey and someone else it's.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Not cannot get them, which is the point it was,
and it was the fact that it wasn't just girls,
it was boys, it was sports fans, it was non
sports fans. The way that this World's Cup has captured
the imagination and the attention of Australia.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Is just it's mind boggling, and I think to truly
understand and comprehend just how magical dare I say, world
changing this event this last month has been here in Australia.
We have to go back because the Matilda's they now
may be everyone's favorite team. That's a fact, I say.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You said, maybe, yeah, ah, categoric.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, categorically they are everyone's favorite team. But they are
the farthest thing from an overnight success that you could
possibly see. The first outing of Team Australia, they weren't
called the Matildas at first, but Team Australia was in
nineteen seventy eight. Now I'm not great at math, but
that was forty five years ago. And tell me it
was so long ago that in nineteen seventy eight, the
(09:28):
top number one song in Australia that had captured the
attention the same way that the Matildas have right now
was You're the one that I want from Greece. That's
how long ago that was. That is the context. Okay,
when this team first started playing, So not an overnight success.
Not an overnight success. Now, the team played sporadically through
(09:50):
the eighties. They still didn't have a team nickname. They
were known as the Soccarettes. No, they were and also
the female soccer Us.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Oh that's worse.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Let's just take a pause to vomit. Now, the nineties
were fast forwarding. The nineties were super significant. Number one,
Jelmy and I were born and we are the Tillies
unofficial number one ticket holders, so that's pretty significant. Some
may argue that nineteen ninety three was more significant, which
was when Sam Kerr was born, which I mean, you know, tomato,
(10:20):
tomato whatever. Now, that team started getting funding around nineteen
ninety four. FIFA also decided that there was going to
be a Women's World Cup, and the sport was added
to the Olympics in the nineties two, so also pretty significant.
The team name of the Matildas was used for the
first time publicly in nineteen ninety five. Despite this, in
nineteen ninety nine, there were still no coverage for this team.
(10:43):
There was still no real funding making a difference, so
the players actually took part in a nude calendar to
raise awareness for the team and also some much needed
funds to try and keep the profile afloat. Fast forward
two thousand and eight, the WLEA competition started in Australia
and we have a domestic professional competition. June twenty five,
(11:05):
twenty twenty, Australia and New Zealand are confirmed as hosts
of the Women's World Cup. That was only three years ago,
and look where we are now. Like even three years
ago people were like, I guess that could be cool,
and now we've seen just the ramifications or the effects
that that huge moment had. So it's been a slog.
It's been a real slog for recognition, for respect, for coverage,
(11:27):
for funding, for facilities. Nothing has come easily to this team,
nothing except talent, is what I'll say. So all that toiling,
it leaves a mark. There are scars that they will
stay with, the athletes, the coaches, the fans who bleed
for this sport. But there was a moment during this
World Cup that acted as a seal for me, a
bio oil if you will, to heal those wounds to soothe,
(11:52):
if not heal, the gulf between men's and women's sport
and put an exclamation mark on the phrase it's all
just sport. I give you the goal.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
And here Sam Kerr, she's probably need some support per
running it. Bright Praer with a shot, scenes.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Scenes and deals as you just so eloquently put George
the journey of the Matildas in the lifetime of these players.
Sam Kerr told her family not to come to her
Matilda's debut because it wasn't a big deal. Granted she
was fifteen and fifteen year old probab don't want to
hang out with their family. Yeah, and also when she
was upset that she wasn't going to the Junior Matilda's
(12:37):
camp because that's where her friends were.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yes, she was too good, but such is.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
The context of how much of a non event Matilda's
Games used to be.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And now you look at the numbers.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
The Australia versus England semi final reached eleven point one
five million, with an average audience of seven point one
three million, and the biggest streaming event ever on seven Play.
But to give context, they're just Channel seven numbers. That's
not off to sport. That's not the scene number. It's
not the scenes that fed square with people losing their mind.
(13:08):
It's not the fact that people said, come to our
house and let's have a viewing party. I think that's
what is unique and beautiful about sport. And there was
something about this World Cup that said, come one.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Come all.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yes, it was a safe space.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Football fanatics, people that have never watched the game before, men, women, boys, girls,
doesn't or anyone anyone. You are welcome here, get your
green and gold on. We'll explain the rules. You still
won't get offside, that's okay, and let's just enjoy something
that was so it was that sense of community, and
I think that goal just solidified Oh yeah, she's just
(13:42):
that good. Do you know what's hilarious? We haven't discussed penalties.
That for me was the moment where you go, we've
arrived and you speak about Sam Kerr. She was someone
likened it to if it was in the lead up
to the two thousand Olympics. It's like Kathy Freeman doing
a calf in terms of the amount of pressure sponsorship,
number twenty jerseys that were just all about Sam.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And there's a reason for it. She's got golden boots
coming out of very ears.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
She has proven herself on the biggest stage in world
spot and world football. We then have a tournament where
we have to play without her. We get to the
round of six, we play and we assert ourselves without
the key figure that has been. If you ask before
this tournament, who's your favorite Matilda to the average Australian,
Sam Kerr would have been the one that everyone got.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yes, But that's because she would have been the one
that only everyone knew. Right now, we've got stories about
Katrina Gorri and her gorgeous daughter Harper, you know, Caitlin Ford.
She is an absolute superstar and who without Sam Kerr,
who has been her partner, you know pub her partner
striker for the majority of both of their careers. They've
played so much football together, starting back at you know,
(14:50):
Sydney FC when they were teenagers. And for her to
play without her and make her own mark has been
wonderful to see throughout this tournament. Mary Fowler gloves my love.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I adore this one of the favorite things that I've seen.
And there was and we talk about how much it
infiltrated culture. Yes, you could not go on any form
of social media without seeing memes footage. Everyone will remember
that footage on the plane of the one sod that
was watching Lord.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Of the Rings.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But everyone else is celebrating because they're watching, like it's
those moments of community. But for me, something that there
were ten blokes that went to Bunnings and they bought gloves.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yes, they bought the gardening gloves.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
And they went to the pub because they couldn't get
gerdsies so they had to do something to be on
the foul train. And you just go, that's it's just
so cool, it's so cool. And she's a marketing dream.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
She is a marketing dream. The face, the hair, the just,
the talent, the talent, the past, the pass I know,
I know the pass or the goal.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I think the past will be the making of Mary.
They've grown up in an era where they've never had
this attention or they never thought that being a Matilda
would lead to this attention. Yes, of which brings me
to a point that in a meeting George, you dropped
a name that's in your phone book that was quite
obscene and you haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
God, if I look into my contacts, I am able
to look up the name Sam Kerr and I have
that Sam Curve's phone number right here, I could do it.
Is it still her number? I don't know. Does she
know who I am? Certainly not. But when I was
an intern for ABC covering the then known W League,
she would come on this little interns radio show and
(16:31):
I would talk to her about the sky Blues and
how they were going because she was just a young
girl from Perth and moved over from Perth Glory and
was starting something pretty magical with Sydney FC. She was
the girl who could run and now she's the face
of everything everything, and that to me gives me the
goosebumps that you're talking about. Like all of these players
(16:52):
I have been following for the last ten you know,
ten years. I mean, I'm so old, so she's so youthful,
But like ten years I followed them, and now to
see Australia fall in love with them the same way
that I did when you know, I was watching every
single one of their games has just been truly remarkable
and I think world changing because they're in the future.
(17:14):
There is not going to be a Matilda's game that
isn't sold out. Yes, that from now, every single time
the Matilda's play, people will want to know and people
will want tickets, and that is huge.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I think what's huge is what it needs to do
for the future, and we've heard that from the players.
They're like, this is about legacy, this is about creating change.
We've seen change in the sale of merch we've seen
change in terms of popularity. Obviously we've already talked about
the television numbers. But the next thing and the legacy
that we've heard from the players that they want this
to be about is funding for football in Australia. And
(17:47):
these are the words of Sam Kerr. We need funding
in our development, we need funding in our grassroots, we
need funding everywhere. She's basically like to shower everything in money.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
We need you get a car, You get a car.
She's like, we need the funding. Give us a fund
of the funding.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
And let's hear are from the great man Toning of
system Tony G.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
I've said it before, it's bigger than ninety minute football.
We're very disappointed at we lost, but hopefully we won
something else. We won the whore and the passion for
this for this game in this country. But I agree
with the players. This is not the end of something.
This needs to be the start of something. And with
that comes to money as well.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Let's talk about that money. The Albanezy government as of
the weekend pledged two hundred million dollars for women's sport. Now,
on the face of it, we've already talked about how
you know Dan Andrews has just given away three hundred
and eighty million dollars for nothing. But on the face
of it, that sounds like a lot of money, right,
But it's not dedicated to football, where it's a lot
(18:45):
of it I think has been put aside to update
facilities which is great and grounds which is you know,
very overdue. But where is it actually going? Will we
see it implemented in the grassroots pathways that Samka and
Tony g are begging for.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Football has the highest participation levels at a junior level
out of any sport in the country, and then it
just falls away, Yes, particularly at the young girls. The
numbers that break down, and this is just the Queensland
government giving us a bit of numbers here. Football participation
levels is one hundred and eighty thousand plus, but the
infrastructure investment per participant is forty seven dollars ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
What is that by like half a keeper's glove?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Rugby union participants, so not rugby league Rugby union participants
twenty thousand. Last clarification not important important Queen Lake government
infrastructure investments per participant six hundred and fifty five dollars
and twenty seven cents.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah, so you can understand why the girls are like
funding in our sport is like just relative. And honestly,
when was the last time you saw the Wallabies.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
On the back page?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Like it's union at the moment, and isn't one of
the most talked about sports.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I'll have the chance the Rabby World Cup's coming up.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Oh, it's coming, and we want to discuss Eddie and
his anger. But then that'll come at another time, coming
at another time.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
But when you look at those numbers, you can actually
see why it's not attractive or that there's there's not
the appeal there to be involved.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And I do think that the worst thing that could
happen off the back of this tidal wave of support
and popularity and recognition that we have seen since this
World Cup is for any young girl or young boy
to go to their local football team and say I
want to play and they say you can't wear full well.
(20:35):
Football Australia is predicting that there will be a twenty
percent surge in participation in the sport that is already
the most highly participated for kids in Australia. They think
there's going to be a twenty percent surge on top
of that, I'm going to tell you right now, it'll
be more than that.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It'll be more than that, especially for young girls.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
For young girls, because they want to be the next Samker,
they want to be Mary Fowler. Like, oh my gosh,
I get emotional because I'm just starting to think about it.
Imagine the little girls coming up and playing on the
weekend and they've got gloves on.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
So those numbers Georgia are pretty damning, Yeah, pretty damning. However,
the Queensland Government and a stage of Paliche have pledged
thirty seven million dollars to support women's sport, tripling the
Inclusive Facilities Fund from ten million to thirty million. Ten
million will go towards the Queensland Women's Football Legacy Fund,
so that is dedicated ten million dollars going towards women's
(21:21):
football and fifty million to active club program, so equipment
and training for ref's volunteers. So they are seeing the
gap and especially in the bridge of what will be
a surge in popularity. They're trying to do something about it,
but you'd argue that it's not going far enough.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
They also have promised a statue, Yes haven't they outside
of Suncorp Stadium or Lang Park.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
There needs to be statues there does Look.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
What I'm saying is is it an either all. Why
can't we be greedy at this moment and say I
want the statues, I want the funding.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yes, I want all of it. We can have it all,
but I think, but we can't fund the game.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I think the.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Importance is that we listen to the players. What they've
given us so much. They've given us so many moments
over the past couple of weeks where we'll remember exactly
where they were. What do they want this legacy to
be about funding and growth in football? And as fans
and viewing public, we can continue to do that with
our eyes.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Ailey Women's coming up.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
There's also so many grassroots teams around this country, junior
clubs that need your support. They need you to volunteer.
They need you to go watch so we can all
do that.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Keep on the bandwagon.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
They're going to keep making us proud, and I think
overwhelmingly we just want to say thank you for a
really beautiful couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Thank you. Tillis tell me it is time for our
favorite segment here on the show, fun Facts. You know
picked up we're kind of sports nerds.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
This is also the part where you say things and
I go pardon fun Facts.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I love it. So what I want to do for
you to say pardon now is I need to take
you back again in time. We're going back. It's a
history lesson the very first Women's World Cup in nineteen
ninety one, great year I was born.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Great year.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Also we had this World Cup. What do you think
was called? It was called the first FIFA World Championship
for Women's Football for the Eminem's Cup.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Sorry, can you how many words? Is that?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
The first speaker Women's World Championship for the Eminem's Cup.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
As a broadcaster who knows how particular they are that
phrasing around tournaments, his bang on, Yes, I would have
knocked out first FIFA World Championship for Women's Football for
the Eminem's Cup and been like it's been lovely seeing
you all.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm going home.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I'm going home, I need nap, I'm going home. Well,
apparently FIFA didn't actually want to call it a World Cup.
They were reluctant to do that because ding ding ding.
They were unsure of how successful the tournament would be,
the possibility that women's football could.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Take off again. This is in the nineties, in.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
The nine season in This is in our lifespan.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
This we're not talking about the fifties where it's like, ooh,
contra women not wearing skirts when.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
They play this.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
This is the nineties where they're like, oh, it's women,
it's the world but you can't possibly call it a
World Cup.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yes, and remember we still didn't. We still weren't technically
known as the Matilda's.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Then funny you should say that Georgie fun fact.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
On top of fun fact, they just keep coming at you.
We talked about the female soccer us being the name,
which is appalling. They also were almost the soccerates, the
blue flyers.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Blue the blue fly, no idea?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Is it a possum? Could you be in green and
gold and also be a blue fly? Very confusing war retas.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Well, we've already got one of them.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I mean they're playing rugby union somewhere. Lour keets lour
keats very intimidating.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
It just doesn't really roll off the tongue, does it.
And the lorrier Keids are tagging on the line And
actually that doesn't sound bad now that I say it
in hindsight.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Well let's just say we've come a long way.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
That is it for their this week's fun Fact, and
that's it for our show today. No, oh my gosh,
you're so sad it's over.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I mean, we'll be back next week.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
There's so much happening in sport this week that it
feels like we've just scraped the surface.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
As always. We'll be back next week.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
And we'll be back next week. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
But just remember biggot Sport
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