September 11, 2025 • 33 mins
Filling in for Abby this week is multi-sport tragic, TikTok legend and all-round delight Lavender Baj. Together, we dive into the NRL finals with gusto (and a few grudges), debate club culture at the Broncos, relive the joy of Lachy Ilias’ dancing, and wonder: could the Bulldogs–Panthers grand final be the cultural moment of the season?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Here at Two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
The Wererungerie people. This land was never seated, always was
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
A hello, Hello, and welcome to another week, which means
another episode of Two Good Sports Sports snoops told differently.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm Georgie Tunney and.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Sitting across from me, it's not Abby Jelmy today it
is miss Lavender. Bye, Lavender, thank you so much for
filling it for Jelmy, For us, Yeah, I'm so happy
to be here now, Lavender. For our listeners, they would
know your work because you pop up everywhere. They would
have seen you in their feeds, they would have seen
(00:46):
you on their screens. How would you best describe your
job description at the moment.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Oh, it's a bit of everything, a bit of producing,
bit of presenting, lots of social media, all different sports.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
It's rugby league, soccer, f one, but everything.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Do you have a favorite?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Because because you are similar to myself, I would say
as always loving kind of all sports, and I refuse
to believe that you had to pick one.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So it's like I've.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Just sort of got this general knowledge of everything. Do
you have a favorite sport.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Oh, it's hard because like.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Kind of rugby league, kind of football, kind of F
one rugby league, not so much this week, but like.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
It kind of ebbs and flows.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I think liking multiple sports is good because like you've
got a better chance of one of your teams doing well.
Sometimes I have like the full trifector where everyone loses
on my day is where I'm like, I'm calling in sick.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Nobody talk to me.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That is such a Nights Fan philosophy. Deal listeners, We're
going to get there. We're going to get to the
rugby league. Do not worry because that's going to be
our main discussion of this episode heading into the NRL
Finals Week one this weekend. But before that, we've got
to do good sport, bad sport, and lavender. I'm gonna
kick things off with a bad sport. I'm not sure
(02:05):
if you have seen this, but Bailey Smith, who cannot
get away from a front page or a back page.
He's on every page. He's on all of the page.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
He's a whole newspaper.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
At this point, he is the whole newspaper. He's in
trouble for his actions directed towards or his behavior directed
towards a very well known, very well liked, very well
renowned photographer at an open training session where he took
I guess he was upset with her taking photographs of him,
(02:35):
and twice he went up to her and I think
he was yelling expletives. He said, you've shipped at your job, essentially,
Like I'm paraphrasing, what do we make of this? Lab
I just think I love Bailey Smith as a player.
I think he is actually great for the game, but
some of his temperaments, some of this behavioral stuff, I
(02:56):
don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, I think it's a hard one because, like I
get it to a point, I am all for when players,
particularly on social media, when players. I think it was
Jamara when he was going through some stuff. People kept
commenting stuff and he clapped back and he like didn't
cross the line, but was really funny. And I'm like,
you know what, when you're getting it every day of
your life, sometimes you're allowed to clap back a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah. With this, I'm like, m.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It's a bit unprofessional when it's kind of your Like
I see sports media athletes, they're all kind of like colleagues.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yes, yeah, you can say this is a workplace for
both of them. Yeah, like that training session, Bailey's at work,
but also the photographer who was targeted at work.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, And I think like it's like, was it Ginnevan
the other day in Adelaide that was walking to the
airport that I'm like, when you're in his face and
he's like out in.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Public, I understand being like this is so embarrassing for you.
Still it was that journalist's job.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
As journalists, we know that sometimes you have to do
things that you maybe wouldn't do. But I think when
it's an open training, it's like that's the whole point
of being here, Like it is an open training. It's
not like he was out for dinner with Tammy Hembro
and someone was shoving a camera in his face. It's
like it is an open training. There does have to
(04:17):
be a little bit of professionalism. And I think, like
I wonder if maybe we're part of the problem because
everyone's kind of been like Bailey Smith's really quite funny,
like when he's giving it to people, when he's on
the field and he's having fun, it's entertaining.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
H I wonder if maybe because.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
He's gotten so many comments and like so many people
have kind of like rebbed him up on that that
then he's taken it a step too far where it's
like there is a line of professionalism.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yes, and I think that you've I think you've nowled
that there. I feel like that definitely could be the case.
But he has to apologize, right Yeah, Like at the
time of this recording, he's not come out publicly and
apologize to that photographer, who again I stress it was
her workplace as well. I mean, if I had, we
don't know, she might be a Bailey Smith fan. If
I had potentially one of my favorite players coming at
(05:07):
me with an expletive laden tirade just being like, get
out of here, what are you doing when I've been
invited there by the club that he plays for, I'd
be so upset.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And was there any context I know that he was
like on the bench getting some sort of medical treatment
when the photo was taken, wear he like flipped the bird.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Was there any context to what set him off?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Like I could understand if he was like taking his
pants off getting changed and she's like in the change
room trying to take a photo. But if it's just
general training stuff, which is what I'm led to believe
it was.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I kind of don't. Is there more to the story
that like.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Look, I think that the potentially the triggering moment for
one of a better word was him getting a massage
and rubbed down on the sideline, and he maybe didn't
want photographs of that, but again, it's an open training session.
If you don't want photographs of that, then just do
it in the shit's like, yeah, back in the tunnel,
like and go back to the dressing room.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
You're a footy player, like you're going to get yeah,
like a massage.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
That's it seemed.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It seemed very very innocuous. I know that he has
so much attention on him, but he also does love
attention too, So that's a hard one I think for
himself to navigate as well.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
We're a fan of his on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I just think that this this this particular moment.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Mm, not for me, not for me, not for me either.
All right, let's head to good Sports. Lavender was only
one place to go.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It's got to be and he's back in the Premier League.
I'm so glad, Like there's a part of me that
I said it from the start that I said that
Tottenham never deserved him. It's going to be interesting for
all the people that immediately became lifelong Tottenham fans as
soon as he signed, that had like never supported Spurs
(06:54):
in their life now having to be.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Like, oh no, my my grandpa loves Nottingham Forest. What
are you talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I've always been a fan, But I'm happy for him
because I think I saw it coming. I said that
he was gonna have a bit of an okay time
and they would just write him off because they've sacked
like twelve.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Managers in nine managers in twelve years, or he's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Like that, Is this why like jumping in, Is this
why you didn't think that Tottenham ever deserved him?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, I said from the start, I was like, they
they don't have the loyalty that it takes, like and
just really good. But he's everywhere he's gone. He needs
a bit of time to cook. And he still won
them a trophy. Like if I was Spurs, I'd be like,
oh my god, we have silverware. Great, build a statue and.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
At least and at least from the outside looking in,
like it did seem that he was very popular with
the players, and it did seem like he was providing
something in those press conferences that not many APOL managers
are reported, you know, and I think as.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
A coach, like, I've never heard anyone related to football
that's ever said like anyone that's ever like played under him.
Obviously there was like the Craig Foster stuff years ago,
but like, I've never heard anyone that's played under.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Him say that he was not a good coach.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
He everywhere he's gone, he's had great success. I'm interested
to see is this the year that Forrests do really well?
I just hope that Forests finish above Spurs. That really funny.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Do you think that is possible? Do you think that's possible?
I mean that would be the ultimate. I mean, you know,
I'm not I love a bit of pettiness here that
says there's that's that's no surprise.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I don't. I don't, Yeah, I don't, cla.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I'm not the not the morality police, though sometimes I
claim to be on this podcast. So that for me,
would be a win for Ang and a win for
everyone who loves the petty. Who loves the petty to win,
we want him above Australia, a.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Win for Australia.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yes, Australia is above notting it's above Totting Tottenham.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I think, like, I don't know, it's one of those
things that you kind of always ride off. But then
there's been years that, like Chelsea a football club that uh,
one of like the big clubs have dropped really far down.
There's been years that teams that, like look at say Wrexham,
there's been teams that have had a change in direction
and have just skyrocketed. I don't think they're going to
(09:11):
win the league, but they.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Could, like I gonna pull off a Leicster.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yes, like imagine Forrest playing Champions League.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Have you seen how it's been reported overseas, especially like
is are Nottingham fans excited by this?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I think they are because I think they see the
vision and I think going to a smaller club. I'm
devastated because he was a boyhood like Liverpool was his
boyhood club and I always said I was like, when
Yogan Club leaves, he'll take over, and it never happened
because he started the year before Yergan Club left and
I don't think he'd ever go to a big club
(09:51):
like that again. But I think Forrest, like maybe a
smaller club will actually see the value in him and
they'll actually stick it out.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
And I think it's.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Kind of it's more glorious to go to a club
like that. It's like me being a Knights fan. You
pick a club that's not one of the big clubs,
and then when you victory tastes sweeter.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
We're gonna get to the nights. That's a lovely little segue.
So we'll say yay to and for being the new
manager of Nottingham Forest. We will be following that very
closely if you're interested on Andrew's journey. By the way,
Jemy and I did a podcast I think last season
about his us sent into the Premier League, which if
I do so for myself, is rather good. But Lav
and I will be back after this for our main topic,
(10:30):
which is NRL finals.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The Broncos are winning. In Love.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I'm so excited that you are on the podcast this
week because we had planned to do a preview of
the NRL and Jelmy is on the record.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
As you know, she loves it.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I've made her she's not allowed to not love it,
but AFL is her sport.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
However, Is she actually sick or is she just like I.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Mean, maybe she didn't want to sit across from me.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
She was probably thinking I was going to have my
Broncos beanie on, to be honest, and she's like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Imagine that studio is just you being like the Broncos. Oh,
And she's just like, oh, well.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Do you know what though, Lav and dear listeners, I
think I've been quite restrained this season because up until
last Thursday Night's performance against the Melbourne Storm. In my opinion, now,
I think that the Broncos have been tanking this entire season.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Where did we learn how to defend in a week?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I was like, I went to the game here against
Melbourne when the Broncos came down to play the Storm
only three or four weeks ago, and we were horrific.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yes, we lost all of our.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Players, but we were so bad and now now we're
winning the competition.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
We're winning the competition. Lab tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
The only thing in NRLD that's giving me any joy
at the moment is laky Elias's tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, tell me about them, tell me about them? Why
what are the doing? He's have you not seen that. No,
you must tell me everything.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Oh my gosh, lucky Ilias is doing like TikTok dances.
No way, and they are so so funny.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
No way.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Yeah, they're hilarious. They're incredible. They are a work of art.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
And now like other players have been like copying them
on tiktop to the point where Braith and Asta got
asked about it on TV the other day. It's like
I've spoken, because he's Ilias's manager. Yeah, he was, like,
I've spoken to Ilias. There'll be no more dancing.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Don't don't kill my fun.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
No, it's the only thing.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
It's like heart.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
We very rarely in the world of rugby league get
really funny, harmless things.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yes, yes, the ladder, the ladder word, there's key yeah
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Well I need him
to keep doing these because you've just told me about them,
so they can't be taken away from me before I
get them.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Oh, I will be texting them to you after the show.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Thank you, because you need to see them. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
This is what I need, This is what I need,
And I totally agree with you because sometimes I mean,
I'm a big advocate, even though I've just taken down
Baylis Smith. But I'm such an advocate for personalities in sport,
and no one wants everyone to be the cookie cutter.
This is the model because yawn, absolute yawn. And if
this is something that.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Ilius is loving, he needs to keep going, he needs
to do it.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
And yeah, I'm all for we need more players to
have like a plan B when rugby league and like
finishes up for them. If Locke Elliots wants to be
a dancing TikTok influencer, I support it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I love that he's just doing Justice Crew? Is that them?
The guys Justice Crew? You obviously listen to this podcast.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Maybe he could be like, who's the one that became
one of the wiggles? Used to be he was Justice Crow.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yes, the hot Wiggle, the Purple Wiggle.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Lock Ilius for the next wiggle. You're hearing it here first.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Here first, yes, yeah, okay, let's get into the matches
that we are going to see opening round of the
NRL Finals. Storm You've already said you do not think
that they can win. It's funny that you say that
because I don't know if the Bulldogs have any chance
of winning the comp. I know that they have been
for me. It was like at the start when they
(14:19):
kept winning everything and then they were like, you know,
number one for a while on the ladder and I
was like, this has to be a blip. This can't
be real, Like I, how have they done this?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I do have to say of all finals, you know
how like in Melbourne you're a Melbourne girl. Like in Melbourne,
AFL Grand Final is like a spectacle in Melton. Oh,
I think you put on a Bulldog's Panthers Final.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
In Sydney.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
It is the closest we are.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
It's not going to be the size of an AFL
Groand Final, but like cultural moment, it is the closest
we're going to get.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
There's going to be the drums, there's going to be
all the like.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
There're two clubs that have massive fan bases that will
come to the game and will actually like make a
spec a lot of that that I think would be
so good for the game.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
That is actually I had not thought of that, But
you're right.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
If I wasn't such a one eyed Brisbane fan, I'd
be like, wow, we should root for that final. But
we can't, unfortunately, because the Broncos have to be one
of those.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Teams competing in the Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
What do you make of Steve Crichton this year? I
feel like, for me, I'm on the record of saying
he's such an amazing player. He's one of my like
whenever it's like Origin, I'm like, God, damn that Crichton
because he's such a grub. But in like the best way.
What have you made of his leadership at the Bulldogs
this year? Because their assent has to come well, it's
(15:37):
down to him as well.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I think he's probably the single best signing they've made
in recent memory. I think, like rememb when he started
and he was like captain in his first season.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Then I was like, yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Was like what what are you doing? The guy from
Penrith Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And he's so young. I always forget that he's like
what twenty three. Yeah, he's a baby. But I think
he's so good and I think think the success that
they've had has to come down. It's not just him,
but I think he's really brought that Panthers' mentality of like.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Like the Panthers just have it.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
They've got a good system where they can keep losing
players and then those players go on to be successful
elsewhere and they still stay strong. And I think that
is like the best system to have for the growth
of league, that now we're getting people like Crichton at
the Bulldogs. That's then kind of like trickling down his
like systems into the new like the younger boys, not
(16:33):
really younger because he's a baby, but like into the
rest of the team. I think that only helps to
grow the league because then people that have played under
his leadership go to other clubs and.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
They go, oh, I really like him.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I feel like you've hit something on the head there
with the Panthers. And what makes them incredibly annoying to
me is, yes, they defeated us in a recent Grand Final,
which I may never recover from, but it's also that
they're actually good, like Ivan Cleary and Nathan Cleary are
actually geniuses. Because you're right, you've got that premiership team
and like premiership players have left that team and still
(17:08):
and still they are in serious contention for winning another one.
And if they win again, is that five in a row?
My brain just went blank. It'll be five in a
row and I'll have to leave the country, like I
just they cannot do it. But they're up against the
Warriors this weekend, and you and I are both fans
of the Wars, and I will be. I might even
(17:29):
get a Wars jersey. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'm just like, come on, come on, because.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
If they can get if they can defeat Penrith, here
penwith don't get another shot next week, sorry, Panthers fans.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I think if if Penrith can somehow go five, there
is absolutely no disputing that Ivan Cleary is the best
coach to the game of rugby league has ever seen.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Wow five in a row with so many players leaving yep,
and the system that he has built and the success
that people have gone on to have after him.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I don't think that that it's a hot take.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah yeah, and in the moderngy in the modern game
as well, Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Did you see that the Wars are hiring a fan.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
What do you mean They've got a LinkedIn job being
like finals fan with the possibility to extend.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Forever. What a really funny like LinkedIn?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Oh my god, So you and I we can just
be Warriors fans for that game so that they can
defeat Penrith.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
They're recruiting.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I think the Wars have a good strategy of like
they are just everyone's second team.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah they are.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, And to be fair, I love to see them
in the finals, especially after everything they went through with
COVID and being away from home for so long and
what they gave the competition.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Like, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
We've seen them, we've seen them grow. They've been such
a good team for so long and they have not
had the results. Hello Dolphins, who's doing that this year?
So I'm glad that we got the Warriors in the finals.
Sharksvy Roosters. I mean, look, I don't want to be
that person, but for me as a Queenslander Broncos fan,
this is like a Who Cares Cup? So like I
think the Roosters might win the Sharks.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
How were they there?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, well I don't really have.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
The Sharks are like campaigning to alban Ezi because they
can't play at Shark Park anymore. Oh my god, some
issue with Shark Park that like everyone's upset about.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
But I think with this game.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You're a political journalist as well. Look at you.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Without you, you're just like I've got I've got elbow
on speeds a same he comes.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
He follows me on Twitter from my old political journal days.
That's my client to fame. Oh my gosh, yes, I
think it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I hate the roosters like I hate the roosters more
than I arguably hate the roosters more than I hate Queensland.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Whoat the roosters, WHOA.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's a lot.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
They're probably tired. I absolutely despise them.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So for AFL fans, that's like maybe the Roosters. They
Manly's Collingwood, So who would the roosters be? The roosters
would be like maybe Melbourne if you hate Melbourne because
they're just like that, that silver Spoon type team.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah. Yeah, And then they brought in we need to
assay and.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Oh my god, can you say his last time again?
Jerlmi calls him Marky Mark And I'm always like no one,
I always try and get it.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
The only time I can get it is when I
don't need to. And then the one time I did
the State of Origin with nine, I was on TV
and I was like, don't know why I tried to
say the name butchered it.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Just bordshered it beyond belief.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
But for him to come from Union to Lea and
play as well as he's playing.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Oh for like he was like a pretty no name
union player.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, and now he is like in a different atmosphere.
How good this man is? He looks like he's from
a boy band. He can fly higher than Jordan and
he's more athletic than David Pocock. Sorry, you have you
created the most elite athlete of all time?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I reckon with him.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
He's going to play League World Cup next year and
then he'll go back to rugby play Rugby World Cup
twenty twenty seven, which is amazing because both World Cups
are in Australia. Yeah, he's going to be a Kangaroo
and a Wallaby, back to back winners, two World Cups.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
And then maybe maybe I'll forgive the Rousters.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Maybe only then, only then?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Age, So who is who cares Cup?
Speaker 4 (21:15):
For you?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
As well? You'll be going, You'll be going for the Sharks.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I I'm already whose cares Cup?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Who cares Cup? At this point because we won the spoon?
But yeah, this game to me, can both teams lose?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I hope, So, I mean we can only hope. We
can only hope that or they just absolutely play themselves
into exhaustion, so that you know, whoever does make it
through the next week, we don't care. Now the game
that everyone, this is a fact, cares about is Sunday
Raiders Broncos because the Broncos leads off. We're winning the Cup.
We're winning the Cup. We're taking on the minor premiers.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Who cares? Who absolutely cares?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Reye Welsh he's drinking that toilet water and he is
nailing it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
He's so good toilet water like so that good, harmless fun.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Do you know what I want if the Broncos can win,
you know, the A League Trophy, that's the toilet seat.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
The toilet seat. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, if the Broncos win, somebody needs to give Reese
Wash the gold toilet seat.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Did you see in the broadcast last week in the
most incredible game that I've already mentioned where we defeated
the Melbourne Storm, who yes, had injuries, whatever, I don't
talk about it, but.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
It still counts.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It still counts, It still counts.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
When Reese was getting interviewed, they had like a number
of fans at the back that were holding toilet seats
and I was like, there's no way that stadium staff
is letting them in there.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
My girlfriend's the marketing manager. She must be behind that.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And I was like, genius, genius, it's so good, so good.
I mean, look, I am some might say slightly not
objective when it comes to the Broncos, but love, what
do you actually think our chances are? Realistically? I mean
you we've lost. I don't think Adam Reynolds is going
to come back. He shouldn't as far as I'm concerned
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for the season. You know, we don't have Cobbo, we
don't have man, but what we have is race, well, spirit, spirit, spirit, fingers.
Oh my god, are you saying we bring it on?
They came second?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Oh no, I don't know because I am firmly anti match.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Oh the coach Michael Maguire, Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I am firmly I didn't think. I don't love what
he's doing with the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, and I think, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Okay, okay for people who don't feel it close as
closely as us, Why why don't you like it?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And what I just think he sort of came in
and he was worried about nail polish and selfies and everything,
and like came in with this stance of like I'm
going to better club culture. And I don't think you
can look at where the Broncos are now. They've had
like a pretty decent season on the field. You cannot
look at the club right now and say that they're
in a better place with club culture.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Than they were at the start of the season. So
I think, like I just didn't. I wasn't a fan
of him.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Is it also because he coached the Blues and then
went to the opposition?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Maybe yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
But I think I've been very I've been very vocal
being like it's I'm going to be right when they
don't win the premiership. I said they weren't going to
make finals, so I'm already wrong. But if they go
on and win the premiership, I have to swallow a
bit of pride and admit that maybe I don't think
I was wrong about like the club culture not being
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where it should be, But I can't be like he
was a bad idea if they win the premiership.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I can tell you though, like Reese Walsh has only
had visible striking nail polish the last two weeks, and
that's when we've been really good. So maybe you're onto something,
you know, like his bright red nails the other week,
I was like, this is everything I want.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Well, my logic has always been like we have players
in this league that do like horrific. There have been
rugby league players that have killed people, and we are
more worried about like nail polish and selfies and shirts
off at training.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Like I just don't care. And I don't think.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
That Reye Walsh is now polish impacts his playing ability. No,
he could paint rainbow's on his nails for all I care.
And as long as he's playing, he's playing.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So what I'm hearing is that the Broncos are winning.
What I'm thinking is potentially Broncos Panthers. Is that even
possible with the makeup of the finals, I don't know.
If that happens again, I'll just be mad. I'll be mad.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Because Penrith if they win this week, I'm concerned.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I think if they win this week, it's all over.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, that's what I think too, like they need.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
To get out first week of finals, or because I
think every year I can't do it again, and every
year I have and Cleary's side.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Every year, bet yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And then he does it and it's like and then
like Nathan Cleary said that he's definitely not going to
go to the Super League.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, and damn it.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Good of the league. Just go away.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You're too good to be.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
In love with Mary Fowler and leave our game alone.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Just you know, love.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Like at the start of this season of Two Good Sports,
we did our ins and outs list, and Nathink Cleary
was on both my in and out because I'm like,
you're so good.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Get out of my life.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, get out, get out of here, Get out of here.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Please. You don't even get in in set of origin either.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
No, he just ruins my life. He ruins my life.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
This lovely man, you know, with his gorgeous girlfriend, like
just ruins my life.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Anyway. It's just this has become a therapy session for
me again.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Old, do you want one of those like lay down couches?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I do?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Tell me what's bothering you, George?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I do.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
That's exactly what I need. That's exactly what I need.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I do want to get before we get into our
fun fact, I want to get in your thoughts on
Teddy Swims being the halftime entertainment for the NRL Grand Final.
Peter Landy's gave the AFL such a kick saying, oh, yeah,
who've they got a poodle?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And he called it And I'm like, I was actually
talking to Mum about this morning that I love Teddy Swims.
I think NRL always does, like the cool young act.
I always does, like the big Marquee act.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yes, I love the signing.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I'm just so sick of Peter, like you know that
Madman meme where it's like I pity you and the
other guy's like, I don't think about you at all.
That to me is Peter Blanders and every other sport code.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Like he's so pressed on what everyone else is doing.
And I'm like, you're gonna pretend you don't know who
Snoop Dogg is?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
See, whereas I I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'm like, yes, this is so because you know that
there'll be people in AFL house that are just like,
did you see what he called Snoop Dogg?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
And Snoop Dog's out here like bacon cookies with Martha Stewart.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
He doesn't care, he doesn't care, he doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, No, I think it's I think Teddy Swims is
actually a great, a great call. And I mean, you know,
putting on my absolute conspiracy theorist hat here uh he
did join that busca in the Queen Street mall and
Brisbane a couple of years ago, which went viral. Teddy
swims this is singing because a busker was singing here
hit lose control and then he just started singing with
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him and they.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Had like millions and millions of views.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And I just think that that means that Brisbane is
going to win because he's got that connection.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Sorry, you're seeing so many facts.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I just like bullshit.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And with that, let's go to our fun fact of
the episode, Lave. This fun fact actually involves you because
where our listeners may have seen you is on the
tick of the top and it is you ranking football jerseys,
which is content that can I just say, everyone needs
in their life, because we all know the jerseys that
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are hideous, that hurt your eyes and the ones that
you were like take all of my money and.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
What hang on, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa? So wait,
hang on, fun fact, how many how many jerseys do
you own?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I would say like eight to one hundred at this
point in my.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Defense, like I do spend it is the reason that
I'll never own a house, but I do also it's
that and like scarves, I just go to a lot
of events where they're like, here's a shirt, or like
sometimes I'll just get them sent to me and I'm like,
I don't even know how this company got my address.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
And then I can't better throw them out.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yes, no, no you can't. You can't, but but you
actually genuinely love them. What makes a good strip?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Oh, I am a sucker for like a good like
a good sponsor makes a big difference. Like I've got
a Fulham Premier League shirt that has a Pizza Hut
sponsor that's really excellent. Like my favorite of all time
is it's Oh I think it's a Brazilian.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Team, but it's FC Martigue.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
It's a football shirt sponsored not by Jurassic Park, the movie,
by Jurassic Park, the video game. It's got Jurassic Park
the game in the Jurassic Park fon on the front.
It's gorgeous, no way what and I've been on a
lifelong hunt to find it.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
But because it's a team that's not very big and
it's quite.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
An old shirt, there's just not many left that are
floating around, and there's heaps of replicas and people tell
I reckon five times a day. Someone will send me
the link to the replica and I'm like, I don't
want the replica. I want the real there.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
This is the shout out, guys. If any of you
happen to have this jersey, Lavendon needs it.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
I will pay tens of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
And then I will like put it in a corner
and not touch it because I won't want to wreck it.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's always the way. You just never work your wanted.
But no, no, no, that's that's safe. Why has Melbourne Storm
got an ugly jersey?
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I think it just looks like they are playing in
the Big Bash.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Like it just looks like a Big Bash shirt. It
doesn't look like a football shirt.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Like, look at their shirt and tell me that it
doesn't give like we're playing in the Big Bash in summer.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
But the zinc on the face.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
That is so accurate.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
And every year they get mad at me and I'm like, babes,
I've been doing these rankings for like three years now.
Every year I'm like and like, why of my friends
used to work for the club, Like I got quite
a few people in that organization that are seeing these videos.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
I'm like, yeah, make it better. Like, I don't know
what to tell you, just stop making ugly shirts.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
This is a PSA.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I actually quite like camera so that one team that
we didn't probably cover off in our very extensive preview
was the Raiders, and I do think that they are
a significant chance of winning the whole thing, which no
one in the league I don't think would actually be
mad at.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And I actually like their.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Jersey because it is so so so very green and
so very different from everyone else's.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
It does make me like there is a part of
me that wants to just green screen things onto it.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Though.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, that jersey that you want so badly, just put
it on them.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, although I don't like I don't like the big
box around sponsors got It's as if they don't know
how to like. It's as if your mum has made
a camera graphic but doesn't know how to remove the
background on an image.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
So it's just the white box around it.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, and sponsorsnos lotter for advertising.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
I'm like, it's not it looks horrible.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
You're like, I'm not gonna buy it. I'm not gonna
buy it With that.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I would your company if you force the team to
wear a big other box around it.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And with that, dear listeners, that is your challenge this weekend,
watch the footy, watch all of the codes, and just
take note of the sponsors and whether or not there
are boxes around them and if if you would spend
tens of thousands of dollars on that jersey and if not,
sorry you're actually not a jersey aficionado.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
That is Lavender. Bye, Lavender, Thank.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
You so much for joining us on this week's episode
of Two Good Sports.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
You're just a damned delight. You are a delight.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Thank you for having it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Oh, you're the best. You're the best until Dake Bigger
School
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Mhm
Here at Two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge
the traditional owners of the land on which we record
this podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The Wererungerie people. This land was never seated, always was
always will be.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
A hello, Hello, and welcome to another week, which means
another episode of Two Good Sports Sports snoops told differently.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm Georgie Tunney and.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Sitting across from me, it's not Abby Jelmy today it
is miss Lavender. Bye, Lavender, thank you so much for
filling it for Jelmy, For us, Yeah, I'm so happy
to be here now, Lavender. For our listeners, they would
know your work because you pop up everywhere. They would
have seen you in their feeds, they would have seen
(00:46):
you on their screens. How would you best describe your
job description at the moment.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Oh, it's a bit of everything, a bit of producing,
bit of presenting, lots of social media, all different sports.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
It's rugby league, soccer, f one, but everything.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Do you have a favorite?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Because because you are similar to myself, I would say
as always loving kind of all sports, and I refuse
to believe that you had to pick one.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So it's like I've.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Just sort of got this general knowledge of everything. Do
you have a favorite sport.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Oh, it's hard because like.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Kind of rugby league, kind of football, kind of F
one rugby league, not so much this week, but like.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
It kind of ebbs and flows.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I think liking multiple sports is good because like you've
got a better chance of one of your teams doing well.
Sometimes I have like the full trifector where everyone loses
on my day is where I'm like, I'm calling in sick.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Nobody talk to me.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That is such a Nights Fan philosophy. Deal listeners, We're
going to get there. We're going to get to the
rugby league. Do not worry because that's going to be
our main discussion of this episode heading into the NRL
Finals Week one this weekend. But before that, we've got
to do good sport, bad sport, and lavender. I'm gonna
kick things off with a bad sport. I'm not sure
(02:05):
if you have seen this, but Bailey Smith, who cannot
get away from a front page or a back page.
He's on every page. He's on all of the page.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
He's a whole newspaper.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
At this point, he is the whole newspaper. He's in
trouble for his actions directed towards or his behavior directed
towards a very well known, very well liked, very well
renowned photographer at an open training session where he took
I guess he was upset with her taking photographs of him,
(02:35):
and twice he went up to her and I think
he was yelling expletives. He said, you've shipped at your job, essentially,
Like I'm paraphrasing, what do we make of this? Lab
I just think I love Bailey Smith as a player.
I think he is actually great for the game, but
some of his temperaments, some of this behavioral stuff, I
(02:56):
don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, I think it's a hard one because, like I
get it to a point, I am all for when players,
particularly on social media, when players. I think it was
Jamara when he was going through some stuff. People kept
commenting stuff and he clapped back and he like didn't
cross the line, but was really funny. And I'm like,
you know what, when you're getting it every day of
your life, sometimes you're allowed to clap back a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah. With this, I'm like, m.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It's a bit unprofessional when it's kind of your Like
I see sports media athletes, they're all kind of like colleagues.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yes, yeah, you can say this is a workplace for
both of them. Yeah, like that training session, Bailey's at work,
but also the photographer who was targeted at work.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, And I think like it's like, was it Ginnevan
the other day in Adelaide that was walking to the
airport that I'm like, when you're in his face and
he's like out in.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Public, I understand being like this is so embarrassing for you.
Still it was that journalist's job.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
As journalists, we know that sometimes you have to do
things that you maybe wouldn't do. But I think when
it's an open training, it's like that's the whole point
of being here, Like it is an open training. It's
not like he was out for dinner with Tammy Hembro
and someone was shoving a camera in his face. It's
like it is an open training. There does have to
(04:17):
be a little bit of professionalism. And I think, like
I wonder if maybe we're part of the problem because
everyone's kind of been like Bailey Smith's really quite funny,
like when he's giving it to people, when he's on
the field and he's having fun, it's entertaining.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
H I wonder if maybe because.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
He's gotten so many comments and like so many people
have kind of like rebbed him up on that that
then he's taken it a step too far where it's
like there is a line of professionalism.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yes, and I think that you've I think you've nowled
that there. I feel like that definitely could be the case.
But he has to apologize, right Yeah, Like at the
time of this recording, he's not come out publicly and
apologize to that photographer, who again I stress it was
her workplace as well. I mean, if I had, we
don't know, she might be a Bailey Smith fan. If
I had potentially one of my favorite players coming at
(05:07):
me with an expletive laden tirade just being like, get
out of here, what are you doing when I've been
invited there by the club that he plays for, I'd
be so upset.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And was there any context I know that he was
like on the bench getting some sort of medical treatment
when the photo was taken, wear he like flipped the bird.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Was there any context to what set him off?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Like I could understand if he was like taking his
pants off getting changed and she's like in the change
room trying to take a photo. But if it's just
general training stuff, which is what I'm led to believe
it was.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I kind of don't. Is there more to the story
that like.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Look, I think that the potentially the triggering moment for
one of a better word was him getting a massage
and rubbed down on the sideline, and he maybe didn't
want photographs of that, but again, it's an open training session.
If you don't want photographs of that, then just do
it in the shit's like, yeah, back in the tunnel,
like and go back to the dressing room.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
You're a footy player, like you're going to get yeah,
like a massage.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
That's it seemed.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It seemed very very innocuous. I know that he has
so much attention on him, but he also does love
attention too, So that's a hard one I think for
himself to navigate as well.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
We're a fan of his on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I just think that this this this particular moment.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Mm, not for me, not for me, not for me either.
All right, let's head to good Sports. Lavender was only
one place to go.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It's got to be and he's back in the Premier League.
I'm so glad, Like there's a part of me that
I said it from the start that I said that
Tottenham never deserved him. It's going to be interesting for
all the people that immediately became lifelong Tottenham fans as
soon as he signed, that had like never supported Spurs
(06:54):
in their life now having to be.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Like, oh no, my my grandpa loves Nottingham Forest. What
are you talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I've always been a fan, But I'm happy for him
because I think I saw it coming. I said that
he was gonna have a bit of an okay time
and they would just write him off because they've sacked
like twelve.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Managers in nine managers in twelve years, or he's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Like that, Is this why like jumping in, Is this
why you didn't think that Tottenham ever deserved him?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, I said from the start, I was like, they
they don't have the loyalty that it takes, like and
just really good. But he's everywhere he's gone. He needs
a bit of time to cook. And he still won
them a trophy. Like if I was Spurs, I'd be like,
oh my god, we have silverware. Great, build a statue and.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
At least and at least from the outside looking in,
like it did seem that he was very popular with
the players, and it did seem like he was providing
something in those press conferences that not many APOL managers
are reported, you know, and I think as.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
A coach, like, I've never heard anyone related to football
that's ever said like anyone that's ever like played under him.
Obviously there was like the Craig Foster stuff years ago,
but like, I've never heard anyone that's played under.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Him say that he was not a good coach.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
He everywhere he's gone, he's had great success. I'm interested
to see is this the year that Forrests do really well?
I just hope that Forests finish above Spurs. That really funny.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Do you think that is possible? Do you think that's possible?
I mean that would be the ultimate. I mean, you know,
I'm not I love a bit of pettiness here that
says there's that's that's no surprise.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I don't. I don't, Yeah, I don't, cla.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I'm not the not the morality police, though sometimes I
claim to be on this podcast. So that for me,
would be a win for Ang and a win for
everyone who loves the petty. Who loves the petty to win,
we want him above Australia, a.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Win for Australia.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yes, Australia is above notting it's above Totting Tottenham.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I think, like, I don't know, it's one of those
things that you kind of always ride off. But then
there's been years that, like Chelsea a football club that uh,
one of like the big clubs have dropped really far down.
There's been years that teams that, like look at say Wrexham,
there's been teams that have had a change in direction
and have just skyrocketed. I don't think they're going to
(09:11):
win the league, but they.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Could, like I gonna pull off a Leicster.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yes, like imagine Forrest playing Champions League.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Have you seen how it's been reported overseas, especially like
is are Nottingham fans excited by this?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I think they are because I think they see the
vision and I think going to a smaller club. I'm
devastated because he was a boyhood like Liverpool was his
boyhood club and I always said I was like, when
Yogan Club leaves, he'll take over, and it never happened
because he started the year before Yergan Club left and
I don't think he'd ever go to a big club
(09:51):
like that again. But I think Forrest, like maybe a
smaller club will actually see the value in him and
they'll actually stick it out.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
And I think it's.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Kind of it's more glorious to go to a club
like that. It's like me being a Knights fan. You
pick a club that's not one of the big clubs,
and then when you victory tastes sweeter.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
We're gonna get to the nights. That's a lovely little segue.
So we'll say yay to and for being the new
manager of Nottingham Forest. We will be following that very
closely if you're interested on Andrew's journey. By the way,
Jemy and I did a podcast I think last season
about his us sent into the Premier League, which if
I do so for myself, is rather good. But Lav
and I will be back after this for our main topic,
(10:30):
which is NRL finals.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The Broncos are winning. In Love.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I'm so excited that you are on the podcast this
week because we had planned to do a preview of
the NRL and Jelmy is on the record.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
As you know, she loves it.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I've made her she's not allowed to not love it,
but AFL is her sport.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
However, Is she actually sick or is she just like I.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Mean, maybe she didn't want to sit across from me.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
She was probably thinking I was going to have my
Broncos beanie on, to be honest, and she's like, I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Imagine that studio is just you being like the Broncos. Oh,
And she's just like, oh, well.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Do you know what though, Lav and dear listeners, I
think I've been quite restrained this season because up until
last Thursday Night's performance against the Melbourne Storm. In my opinion, now,
I think that the Broncos have been tanking this entire season.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Where did we learn how to defend in a week?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I was like, I went to the game here against
Melbourne when the Broncos came down to play the Storm
only three or four weeks ago, and we were horrific.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yes, we lost all of our.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Players, but we were so bad and now now we're
winning the competition.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
We're winning the competition. Lab tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
The only thing in NRLD that's giving me any joy
at the moment is laky Elias's tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, tell me about them, tell me about them? Why
what are the doing? He's have you not seen that. No,
you must tell me everything.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Oh my gosh, lucky Ilias is doing like TikTok dances.
No way, and they are so so funny.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
No way.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Yeah, they're hilarious. They're incredible. They are a work of art.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
And now like other players have been like copying them
on tiktop to the point where Braith and Asta got
asked about it on TV the other day. It's like
I've spoken, because he's Ilias's manager. Yeah, he was, like,
I've spoken to Ilias. There'll be no more dancing.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Don't don't kill my fun.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
No, it's the only thing.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
It's like heart.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
We very rarely in the world of rugby league get
really funny, harmless things.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yes, yes, the ladder, the ladder word, there's key yeah
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Well I need him
to keep doing these because you've just told me about them,
so they can't be taken away from me before I
get them.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Oh, I will be texting them to you after the show.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Thank you, because you need to see them. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
This is what I need, This is what I need,
And I totally agree with you because sometimes I mean,
I'm a big advocate, even though I've just taken down
Baylis Smith. But I'm such an advocate for personalities in sport,
and no one wants everyone to be the cookie cutter.
This is the model because yawn, absolute yawn. And if
this is something that.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Ilius is loving, he needs to keep going, he needs
to do it.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
And yeah, I'm all for we need more players to
have like a plan B when rugby league and like
finishes up for them. If Locke Elliots wants to be
a dancing TikTok influencer, I support it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I love that he's just doing Justice Crew? Is that them?
The guys Justice Crew? You obviously listen to this podcast.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Maybe he could be like, who's the one that became
one of the wiggles? Used to be he was Justice Crow.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yes, the hot Wiggle, the Purple Wiggle.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Lock Ilius for the next wiggle. You're hearing it here first.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Here first, yes, yeah, okay, let's get into the matches
that we are going to see opening round of the
NRL Finals. Storm You've already said you do not think
that they can win. It's funny that you say that
because I don't know if the Bulldogs have any chance
of winning the comp. I know that they have been
for me. It was like at the start when they
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kept winning everything and then they were like, you know,
number one for a while on the ladder and I
was like, this has to be a blip. This can't
be real, Like I, how have they done this?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I do have to say of all finals, you know
how like in Melbourne you're a Melbourne girl. Like in Melbourne,
AFL Grand Final is like a spectacle in Melton. Oh,
I think you put on a Bulldog's Panthers Final.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
In Sydney.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
It is the closest we are.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
It's not going to be the size of an AFL
Groand Final, but like cultural moment, it is the closest
we're going to get.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
There's going to be the drums, there's going to be
all the like.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
There're two clubs that have massive fan bases that will
come to the game and will actually like make a
spec a lot of that that I think would be
so good for the game.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
That is actually I had not thought of that, But
you're right.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
If I wasn't such a one eyed Brisbane fan, I'd
be like, wow, we should root for that final. But
we can't, unfortunately, because the Broncos have to be one
of those.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Teams competing in the Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
What do you make of Steve Crichton this year? I
feel like, for me, I'm on the record of saying
he's such an amazing player. He's one of my like
whenever it's like Origin, I'm like, God, damn that Crichton
because he's such a grub. But in like the best way.
What have you made of his leadership at the Bulldogs
this year? Because their assent has to come well, it's
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down to him as well.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I think he's probably the single best signing they've made
in recent memory. I think, like rememb when he started
and he was like captain in his first season.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Then I was like, yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Was like what what are you doing? The guy from
Penrith Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And he's so young. I always forget that he's like
what twenty three. Yeah, he's a baby. But I think
he's so good and I think think the success that
they've had has to come down. It's not just him,
but I think he's really brought that Panthers' mentality of like.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Like the Panthers just have it.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
They've got a good system where they can keep losing
players and then those players go on to be successful
elsewhere and they still stay strong. And I think that
is like the best system to have for the growth
of league, that now we're getting people like Crichton at
the Bulldogs. That's then kind of like trickling down his
like systems into the new like the younger boys, not
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really younger because he's a baby, but like into the
rest of the team. I think that only helps to
grow the league because then people that have played under
his leadership go to other clubs and.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
They go, oh, I really like him.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I feel like you've hit something on the head there
with the Panthers. And what makes them incredibly annoying to
me is, yes, they defeated us in a recent Grand Final,
which I may never recover from, but it's also that
they're actually good, like Ivan Cleary and Nathan Cleary are
actually geniuses. Because you're right, you've got that premiership team
and like premiership players have left that team and still
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and still they are in serious contention for winning another one.
And if they win again, is that five in a row?
My brain just went blank. It'll be five in a
row and I'll have to leave the country, like I
just they cannot do it. But they're up against the
Warriors this weekend, and you and I are both fans
of the Wars, and I will be. I might even
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get a Wars jersey. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I'm just like, come on, come on, because.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
If they can get if they can defeat Penrith, here
penwith don't get another shot next week, sorry, Panthers fans.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I think if if Penrith can somehow go five, there
is absolutely no disputing that Ivan Cleary is the best
coach to the game of rugby league has ever seen.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Wow five in a row with so many players leaving yep,
and the system that he has built and the success
that people have gone on to have after him.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I don't think that that it's a hot take.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah yeah, and in the moderngy in the modern game
as well, Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Did you see that the Wars are hiring a fan.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
What do you mean They've got a LinkedIn job being
like finals fan with the possibility to extend.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Forever. What a really funny like LinkedIn?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Oh my god, So you and I we can just
be Warriors fans for that game so that they can
defeat Penrith.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
They're recruiting.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I think the Wars have a good strategy of like
they are just everyone's second team.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah they are.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, And to be fair, I love to see them
in the finals, especially after everything they went through with
COVID and being away from home for so long and
what they gave the competition.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Like, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
We've seen them, we've seen them grow. They've been such
a good team for so long and they have not
had the results. Hello Dolphins, who's doing that this year?
So I'm glad that we got the Warriors in the finals.
Sharksvy Roosters. I mean, look, I don't want to be
that person, but for me as a Queenslander Broncos fan,
this is like a Who Cares Cup? So like I
think the Roosters might win the Sharks.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
How were they there?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, well I don't really have.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
The Sharks are like campaigning to alban Ezi because they
can't play at Shark Park anymore. Oh my god, some
issue with Shark Park that like everyone's upset about.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
But I think with this game.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You're a political journalist as well. Look at you.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Without you, you're just like I've got I've got elbow
on speeds a same he comes.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
He follows me on Twitter from my old political journal days.
That's my client to fame. Oh my gosh, yes, I
think it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I hate the roosters like I hate the roosters more
than I arguably hate the roosters more than I hate Queensland.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Whoat the roosters, WHOA.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's a lot.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
They're probably tired. I absolutely despise them.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So for AFL fans, that's like maybe the Roosters. They
Manly's Collingwood, So who would the roosters be? The roosters
would be like maybe Melbourne if you hate Melbourne because
they're just like that, that silver Spoon type team.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah. Yeah, And then they brought in we need to
assay and.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Oh my god, can you say his last time again?
Jerlmi calls him Marky Mark And I'm always like no one,
I always try and get it.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
The only time I can get it is when I
don't need to. And then the one time I did
the State of Origin with nine, I was on TV
and I was like, don't know why I tried to
say the name butchered it.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Just bordshered it beyond belief.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
But for him to come from Union to Lea and
play as well as he's playing.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Oh for like he was like a pretty no name
union player.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, and now he is like in a different atmosphere.
How good this man is? He looks like he's from
a boy band. He can fly higher than Jordan and
he's more athletic than David Pocock. Sorry, you have you
created the most elite athlete of all time?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I reckon with him.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
He's going to play League World Cup next year and
then he'll go back to rugby play Rugby World Cup
twenty twenty seven, which is amazing because both World Cups
are in Australia. Yeah, he's going to be a Kangaroo
and a Wallaby, back to back winners, two World Cups.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
And then maybe maybe I'll forgive the Rousters.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Maybe only then, only then?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Age, So who is who cares Cup?
Speaker 4 (21:15):
For you?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
As well? You'll be going, You'll be going for the Sharks.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I I'm already whose cares Cup?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Who cares Cup? At this point because we won the spoon?
But yeah, this game to me, can both teams lose?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I hope, So, I mean we can only hope. We
can only hope that or they just absolutely play themselves
into exhaustion, so that you know, whoever does make it
through the next week, we don't care. Now the game
that everyone, this is a fact, cares about is Sunday
Raiders Broncos because the Broncos leads off. We're winning the Cup.
We're winning the Cup. We're taking on the minor premiers.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Who cares? Who absolutely cares?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Reye Welsh he's drinking that toilet water and he is
nailing it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
He's so good toilet water like so that good, harmless fun.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Do you know what I want if the Broncos can win,
you know, the A League Trophy, that's the toilet seat.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
The toilet seat. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, if the Broncos win, somebody needs to give Reese
Wash the gold toilet seat.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Did you see in the broadcast last week in the
most incredible game that I've already mentioned where we defeated
the Melbourne Storm, who yes, had injuries, whatever, I don't
talk about it, but.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
It still counts.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It still counts, It still counts.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
When Reese was getting interviewed, they had like a number
of fans at the back that were holding toilet seats
and I was like, there's no way that stadium staff
is letting them in there.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
My girlfriend's the marketing manager. She must be behind that.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And I was like, genius, genius, it's so good, so good.
I mean, look, I am some might say slightly not
objective when it comes to the Broncos, but love, what
do you actually think our chances are? Realistically? I mean
you we've lost. I don't think Adam Reynolds is going
to come back. He shouldn't as far as I'm concerned
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for the season. You know, we don't have Cobbo, we
don't have man, but what we have is race, well, spirit, spirit, spirit, fingers.
Oh my god, are you saying we bring it on?
They came second?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Oh no, I don't know because I am firmly anti match.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Oh the coach Michael Maguire, Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I am firmly I didn't think. I don't love what
he's doing with the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, and I think, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Okay, okay for people who don't feel it close as
closely as us, Why why don't you like it?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And what I just think he sort of came in
and he was worried about nail polish and selfies and everything,
and like came in with this stance of like I'm
going to better club culture. And I don't think you
can look at where the Broncos are now. They've had
like a pretty decent season on the field. You cannot
look at the club right now and say that they're
in a better place with club culture.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Than they were at the start of the season. So
I think, like I just didn't. I wasn't a fan
of him.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Is it also because he coached the Blues and then
went to the opposition?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Maybe yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
But I think I've been very I've been very vocal
being like it's I'm going to be right when they
don't win the premiership. I said they weren't going to
make finals, so I'm already wrong. But if they go
on and win the premiership, I have to swallow a
bit of pride and admit that maybe I don't think
I was wrong about like the club culture not being
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where it should be, But I can't be like he
was a bad idea if they win the premiership.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I can tell you though, like Reese Walsh has only
had visible striking nail polish the last two weeks, and
that's when we've been really good. So maybe you're onto something,
you know, like his bright red nails the other week,
I was like, this is everything I want.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Well, my logic has always been like we have players
in this league that do like horrific. There have been
rugby league players that have killed people, and we are
more worried about like nail polish and selfies and shirts
off at training.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Like I just don't care. And I don't think.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
That Reye Walsh is now polish impacts his playing ability. No,
he could paint rainbow's on his nails for all I care.
And as long as he's playing, he's playing.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So what I'm hearing is that the Broncos are winning.
What I'm thinking is potentially Broncos Panthers. Is that even
possible with the makeup of the finals, I don't know.
If that happens again, I'll just be mad. I'll be mad.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Because Penrith if they win this week, I'm concerned.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I think if they win this week, it's all over.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, that's what I think too, like they need.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
To get out first week of finals, or because I
think every year I can't do it again, and every
year I have and Cleary's side.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Every year, bet yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And then he does it and it's like and then
like Nathan Cleary said that he's definitely not going to
go to the Super League.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, and damn it.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Good of the league. Just go away.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You're too good to be.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
In love with Mary Fowler and leave our game alone.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Just you know, love.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Like at the start of this season of Two Good Sports,
we did our ins and outs list, and Nathink Cleary
was on both my in and out because I'm like,
you're so good.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Get out of my life.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, get out, get out of here, Get out of here.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Please. You don't even get in in set of origin either.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
No, he just ruins my life. He ruins my life.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
This lovely man, you know, with his gorgeous girlfriend, like
just ruins my life.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Anyway. It's just this has become a therapy session for
me again.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Old, do you want one of those like lay down couches?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I do?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Tell me what's bothering you, George?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I do.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
That's exactly what I need. That's exactly what I need.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I do want to get before we get into our
fun fact, I want to get in your thoughts on
Teddy Swims being the halftime entertainment for the NRL Grand Final.
Peter Landy's gave the AFL such a kick saying, oh, yeah,
who've they got a poodle?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
And he called it And I'm like, I was actually
talking to Mum about this morning that I love Teddy Swims.
I think NRL always does, like the cool young act.
I always does, like the big Marquee act.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yes, I love the signing.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I'm just so sick of Peter, like you know that
Madman meme where it's like I pity you and the
other guy's like, I don't think about you at all.
That to me is Peter Blanders and every other sport code.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Like he's so pressed on what everyone else is doing.
And I'm like, you're gonna pretend you don't know who
Snoop Dogg is?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
See, whereas I I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'm like, yes, this is so because you know that
there'll be people in AFL house that are just like,
did you see what he called Snoop Dogg?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
And Snoop Dog's out here like bacon cookies with Martha Stewart.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
He doesn't care, he doesn't care, he doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, No, I think it's I think Teddy Swims is
actually a great, a great call. And I mean, you know,
putting on my absolute conspiracy theorist hat here uh he
did join that busca in the Queen Street mall and
Brisbane a couple of years ago, which went viral. Teddy
swims this is singing because a busker was singing here
hit lose control and then he just started singing with
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him and they.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Had like millions and millions of views.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And I just think that that means that Brisbane is
going to win because he's got that connection.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Sorry, you're seeing so many facts.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I just like bullshit.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And with that, let's go to our fun fact of
the episode, Lave. This fun fact actually involves you because
where our listeners may have seen you is on the
tick of the top and it is you ranking football jerseys,
which is content that can I just say, everyone needs
in their life, because we all know the jerseys that
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are hideous, that hurt your eyes and the ones that
you were like take all of my money and.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
What hang on, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa? So wait,
hang on, fun fact, how many how many jerseys do
you own?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I would say like eight to one hundred at this
point in my.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Defense, like I do spend it is the reason that
I'll never own a house, but I do also it's
that and like scarves, I just go to a lot
of events where they're like, here's a shirt, or like
sometimes I'll just get them sent to me and I'm like,
I don't even know how this company got my address.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
And then I can't better throw them out.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yes, no, no you can't. You can't, but but you
actually genuinely love them. What makes a good strip?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Oh, I am a sucker for like a good like
a good sponsor makes a big difference. Like I've got
a Fulham Premier League shirt that has a Pizza Hut
sponsor that's really excellent. Like my favorite of all time
is it's Oh I think it's a Brazilian.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Team, but it's FC Martigue.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
It's a football shirt sponsored not by Jurassic Park, the movie,
by Jurassic Park, the video game. It's got Jurassic Park
the game in the Jurassic Park fon on the front.
It's gorgeous, no way what and I've been on a
lifelong hunt to find it.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
But because it's a team that's not very big and
it's quite.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
An old shirt, there's just not many left that are
floating around, and there's heaps of replicas and people tell
I reckon five times a day. Someone will send me
the link to the replica and I'm like, I don't
want the replica. I want the real there.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
This is the shout out, guys. If any of you
happen to have this jersey, Lavendon needs it.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
I will pay tens of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
And then I will like put it in a corner
and not touch it because I won't want to wreck it.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's always the way. You just never work your wanted.
But no, no, no, that's that's safe. Why has Melbourne Storm
got an ugly jersey?
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I think it just looks like they are playing in
the Big Bash.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Like it just looks like a Big Bash shirt. It
doesn't look like a football shirt.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Like, look at their shirt and tell me that it
doesn't give like we're playing in the Big Bash in summer.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
But the zinc on the face.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
That is so accurate.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
And every year they get mad at me and I'm like, babes,
I've been doing these rankings for like three years now.
Every year I'm like and like, why of my friends
used to work for the club, Like I got quite
a few people in that organization that are seeing these videos.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
I'm like, yeah, make it better. Like, I don't know
what to tell you, just stop making ugly shirts.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
This is a PSA.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I actually quite like camera so that one team that
we didn't probably cover off in our very extensive preview
was the Raiders, and I do think that they are
a significant chance of winning the whole thing, which no
one in the league I don't think would actually be
mad at.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And I actually like their.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Jersey because it is so so so very green and
so very different from everyone else's.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
It does make me like there is a part of
me that wants to just green screen things onto it.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Though.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, that jersey that you want so badly, just put
it on them.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, although I don't like I don't like the big
box around sponsors got It's as if they don't know
how to like. It's as if your mum has made
a camera graphic but doesn't know how to remove the
background on an image.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
So it's just the white box around it.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, and sponsorsnos lotter for advertising.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
I'm like, it's not it looks horrible.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
You're like, I'm not gonna buy it. I'm not gonna
buy it With that.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I would your company if you force the team to
wear a big other box around it.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And with that, dear listeners, that is your challenge this weekend,
watch the footy, watch all of the codes, and just
take note of the sponsors and whether or not there
are boxes around them and if if you would spend
tens of thousands of dollars on that jersey and if not,
sorry you're actually not a jersey aficionado.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
That is Lavender. Bye, Lavender, Thank.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
You so much for joining us on this week's episode
of Two Good Sports.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
You're just a damned delight. You are a delight.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Thank you for having it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Oh, you're the best. You're the best until Dake Bigger
School
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Mhm
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