November 27, 2023 • 33 mins
It's our last episode for the year, so we're looking back on the stories we've covered so far and bringing you up to speed on where they're at now. Like, have Australian netballers been paid yet? Has the 2026 Commonwealth Games been resolved? And is the three-year ban handed to Luis Rubiales enough? Plus, we pick our favourite sports moments of the year.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Two Good Sports would like to acknowledge the traditional owners
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always will be. Hello and welcome to Two Good Sports
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm Georgie Tunney.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
And I'm Abby Jelmy and George. It's our final episode
for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Our last show of the year.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm both excited and sad because I'm very proud of
what we've been able to do in our debut season.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm giving ourselves the Clive Churchill then of Smith well
done us. We love praise.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
You can have Clive well done.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yep, yep, go us, go us.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
But we have had such a fun time talking to you,
dear listener, and to each other about all the things
that have just made our little brains tick this year.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
We have had so much fun.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
And yet this is the episode that I'm most excited
about because we touched on so many different topics, and
as happens in sports news and Sports News Told Differently,
the story progresses yeah after we tell it, and some
of these have gone in the most remarkable directions that
we're going to go back through all the different things
that we have already discussed and tell you how the
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story's ended to this point. Some of them calm games
haven't ended.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Some of them still TBC.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But the deep dives we are getting the updated depth.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
So add the jingle here, Welcome to the recap.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's a festive season when you turn on the telling
you and you see the best of Well we're doing
that in a podcast. Welcome aboard, and we are starting
with Peter Bowl, Georgie. Where else are we going to
start but Peter Bowl. Let's find out what the legend
is up to and how is feeling ahead of the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
You've gone through some dark times.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Talk about what that was like for you.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Yeah, very tough times and thankfully we got through it.
But you know there's times that you needed to go through.
And I said before, like I would have take anything,
but because like the storm that you kin't need to
go through to be resilient enough to prepare for what's
to come, which is the Paris Olympic Games. I'm looking
forward to coming back home and giving my fans something
really so I'm looking forward to coming racing. I'll race
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my first race probably in Sydney and then hopefully get
to Perth, my hometown, and give the fans a show
over there. Just make it home before going to Paris.
I'm stronger mentally, and that's what I was missing at
the at the Toky Olympic Games. The mental game over
the the physical and the physical will come.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
If there was a resilience ometer that existed and that
we could quantify a human's potential resilience reserves, Peter Bowl
is off the scale.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I genuinely have goosebumps because if it's possible to have
a favorite sporting moment that hasn't happened, Yes, if Peter
Bowl gets on the podium in Paris, I will lose
my actual mind.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And there is big promise, yes, Joe.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Then, firstly, the context of this is that that was
speaking at a major sponsor. If you long genes, so
the sponsors are back on because he is returned and
that big smile all throughout that video.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
He is back to being the Golden Boy.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
And we touched on the story George to the fact
that he was on the back page of newspapers around
the country branded a cheat for a drug test that
was false.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
The dark times you talk about it. There the reporter
asking him, you know, really, it's possible that we're underplaying
this by just calling it. Yeah, those dark times that
you went through got pretty hut.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I wasn't allowed to train or compete wild.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Wild for an athlete of his caliber to be labeled
that without any at the time specific or full proof. Remember,
the original story was Peter Bowl tests positive to a
performance enhancing drug. He immediately denies it. The result itself
was leaked. It was just his a sample. This was
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before his B sample was returned, fast forward and in
the end completely exonerated because.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It was a false positive.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
And yet there will still be people around Australia go,
Peter Bowl. Wasn't he that guy that was a drug cheat?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
People don't stay up with the news cycle.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
As much as you and me, So let's remind you
completely exonerated, hoping to be on the podium and should
he achieve it.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Good God.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
But that's one of my favorite progressions that we've covered
all year. He was in the dumps, he's lifted back up,
and we're going to keep telling you how great he
is and get on the bandwagon. And as he said,
we're going to see him racing around Australia too. But
let's move on to Meg Lanning.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Oh tell me, I remember when we were doing this
deep dive on Meg Lanning and it was more of
a welfare check for you. If I'm honest, Fine, she is.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
One of your all time favorite athletes, male or female.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You love her.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
She announced her retirement from international cricket. We took it hard,
some of us more than others.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And the seal of George was the fact that we
were going to be able to watch in the w
yes and the hope that it was coming from a
place of that she was at peace with her decision
and that she was in a good place and was
going to really enjoy her domestic cricket. The progression that
we've seen in the last couple of weeks is that
she's taking a break for personal reasons from the WBBL,
and we don't know what those reasons are, or we
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know that is the coach said that, Look, we're putting
our arms around and we're supporting Meg. We don't want
to speculate on what those reasons are. I'm sad as
a cricket fan that we're not getting to watch her
because she was in wonderful form.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
She was she was, and there is no doubt in
my mind that if Meg had not pulled the pin,
she would be the first person selected still for Australia. Absolutely,
she would one thousand percent be like, okay, we'll building
the team around Meg once again. We can only wish
her well and hope that she is doing okay and
that she is using this time to just figure out
what she wants, which is what she said in that
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incredibly emotional press conference that I remember us listening to,
and I believe the words were If that went on
for another four seconds, I would have been a puddle
from GELM.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I love that you drop an octave when you pretend
to be me. That that was good. That did sound
like me, to be fair.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But no, Meg Lanning sending some of you bears, We're
sending all of our thoughts. We hope that we see
her again, but if we don't, she owes us nothing.
She's given us everything for the better part of thirteen years.
But let's hope we do see her back to the
stars soon.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know who they could be really be needing her
at the moment is the stars. They could really have
used her, but they are set to miss the finals
for the WBPL, which is unfortunate but really our consensus
with me.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Speaking of concerned Netball Australia, it is going from bad
to worse to the house is on fire.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
The house is on fire, the driveway is on fire.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's blown up.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It has blown up because net for Australia. Wow wow, wow.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
We did not think that the crisis that is this
code in this country could enter another stratosphere of drama.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well how will we?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
During our deep dive, it was focused on the As
of today the time of this recording is still unresolved CPA.
So the collective players agreement between Netball Australia, the governing
body and the players Association trying to work out the
best funding model and payment model, revenue share model or
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profit share model that will work for this sport going forward.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
To this point, there is still no agreement, still no agreement,
And Georgie, you do what makes that even more uncomfortable?
An awards night where everyone is to gather and celebrate.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
This is the latest. Let's have a listen.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
About a dozen super NETBWK players boycotted Netble Australia's annual
awards ceremony in protests last night, and Diamonds players posted
messages online saying they only attended the awards because they
are contractually obligated to do so.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
So this is.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Vision of the ceremony with Courtney Bruce winning the Liz
Ellis Diamond Awards Player of the Year. Now Netborle Australia
has confirmed to us this morning that it sent a
legal letter to players just hours before the awards, threatening
legal action if they didn't comply with their contracts and
actually attend the ceremony.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
A legal letter to get you off the couch and
get you to that awards night. How fun, What a
fun night.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
My sources tell me. And I love people that start
sentences that way. So my sources tell me that they
are close. They're extremely close to coming to a deal.
There's still little nuances to work out. But in that meantime,
eight weeks of no pay.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Of no pay for the supernetballers. And I do know
that at that awards night, everyone who was present because
they were contractually obligated to be present, and who did
win something, their acceptance speeches were all. We stand in
solidarity with the players and what is happening at the
moment because.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I when we did this.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Deep dive, we went into great depth about how untenable
we thought the relationship was between the governing body and
the players. There was such a huge breakdown. How on
earth do you let an awards night go ahead like this?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Because Corney Bruce deserves to be celebrated.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, but she's won the Alan Border the Norm Smith that,
like she's won the Dally M. Yeah, for her sport,
she deserves to, Like the liz Ella, she deserves to
be celebrated.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
But in that way it takes away from it. No
one's going to remember that she won the Lizzellis Medal.
Everyone's going to remember that people were being forced to
be there and pretend to be happy.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
But if netball Australia is in crisis, it is May
Day for the Wallabies.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Oh gosh, get.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
The flags out, the white flag, surrender start again.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So, dear listener, where we left our deep dive on
the crisis. The absolute shit show that is rugby Australia
was they were coachless, they were rudderless, and really.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Were they futureless?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
At this point I'm seeing nothing to have turned any
of that around. Eddie Jones officially has stood down as
of yet still not officially the Japanese coach, however, he
is over in Japan right now, and.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan had said, I'm not quitting,
that's right. I'm showing my children that I don't quit.
I'm not leaving, that's right.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And he was like, and really, guys, you can't put
the blame on me. I'm here delivering all of the things.
I'm bringing the sponsors. I'm living up to all these promises.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
And he tried to centralize power and take power away
from the States, and you know what the States did.
We're gonna vote you out, buddy. You do what people
don't like in power when you try to take some
from them.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So the latest update for the Wallabies is that Hamish mcclennan,
who was very unpopular towards the end of that tenure,
has stood down.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
No chance of being popular. You're not having success as
a matter. If you're Santa Claus, people are going to
vote you out of the North Pole.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yes, yes, And I do think remember how we were
focusing on Eddie Jones was brought in and that was
meant to be a Hamish McLennan captain's call, really bringing
in Eddie Jones to replace the outgoing coach at the time,
Dave Rennie, to revolutionize this team, lead us through the
France World Cup of this year and then steady the
ship into our home World Cup in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
He was meant to deliver the results.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Now that obviously did not happen, but I don't think
that was the not many people had an issue.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
With McLennan doing that.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The breakdown and communication between that partnership though, big problems
because there was a disparity between what Eddie was expecting
to be delivered and what was actually delivered. And now
Rugby Australia finds itself with a new chair. I think
Daniel Herbert has taken the reins now and he could
be good for the game, but god.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
He has so that was amounted on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
He said on Friday the was not on my radar,
so this is not it's not something that he saw coming.
He's been on the board for a while and he
essentially said, well, this is going to be new, and
I think the message that I saw from Daniel Herbert,
who is a World Cup winning Wallaby himself, was that
we need to get results. Yes, we need success on
field and essentially said that the Wallabies are the shop
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front for Australian rugby.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And my god, is that true.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
If the Wallabies are doing well, everything else trickles down.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I know, but I just do not see how they're
going to get those results. I do not see how
they are going to get that success on the field
because it is such a dumpster fire behind the scenes,
even with this changing of the guard.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
But wait, there's more. When I say.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Dumpster fire, let's just add a little bit of fuel
onto that.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Because Rugby Australia has taken out an eighty million dollar alone,
what a whistle from you, excellent, an eighty million dollar
loone just to try and stay afloat to get to
this home World Cup, which is still four years away,
so a long time away, but also a very short
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time in order to you know, doubtbuild this dumpster fire.
The other key part here is that yes, we are
in need of eighty million dollars to try and keep
this sport afloat, but we also may have lost a
million dollars to the French Rugby Federation because we decided
that we would play France in a practice match in
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the lead up to the Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
We lost that game just by the bye.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Is it stunning, no one, But we decided we agreed
to play that game and a handshake deal, thinking that
we were going to earn a million dollars from it.
What we were actually paid was one hundred thousand dollars.
Obviously that's a little bit, a little bit of a difference.
So Rugby Australia thought, hang on a second, that's not
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adding up. We've done these sums. No, no, no, France,
where's our money. Turns out that the French Rugby Federation
may not need to honor the deal. Honor that deal
because the contract wasn't tight, because the contract was not
written down. And even more, here's the kicker that the
head of the French rugby union at the time, he's
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no longer there because he was fired and literally charged
with corruption.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
So we've had a corrupt and shake with no watertight contract.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
But we're calling and saying you owe.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Us a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
A nine hundred thousand is the gap between what we
were paid and what we'd like I don't know if
you've seen the headlines. We're in a little bit of strife.
So if you could be pay that, that would be great.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
If you can just hurry up. Yep, thank you so much,
would be amazing. I've got bay Id, thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
We would love rugby in Australia to do well. God,
we're both fans of the game. Yeah, we don't want
to be naysayers. We don't want to laugh and kick
at them while they're down, but just sometimes there's a
contract with the corrupt head of and it just is
a little bit hard to sit back and be like
guys sorted.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Out come on, because you just think when you think that,
when you think it can't get worse, there's rugby Australia.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And when you think that there's not more headlines to come,
you would be wrong because coming up next some of
our favorite stories, the calm Games, Oh Swimming Australia. Did
we get expelled?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Did we not?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
We've got the follow up and Lewis Ruby as so
much happened this year. Let us pray that man who's
kissing football goodbye. See what I did there? I see
that's all coming up.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Georgie.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Can you believe that we are almost at the end
of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I can't. I can't.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
It's outrageous.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
It feels both the longest year of my life and
also the shortest year of my life.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I don't know that possible, but that's what's happened.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
So next year would be twenty twenty four, which I mean,
we're just two years out from a Commonwealth Games that
doesn't have a venue still, or a location still, or
any sort of direction, and Australia is left with blood
on their hands. Maybe not blood on their fans, but
egg on their face.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Definitely egg on their face.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Because the Andrews government now led by Victorian Premier de
Cinta Allen, who, as we discussed when we did the
deep dive on this, was actually the person that was
behind the bid at the hell the Regional Victoria to
host the twenty twenty six Commonwealth Games. Well, no one
has picked up the lemon.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yes, the lemon, that's right, that's what you called it.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Lemon of six maybe seven billion dollars. We thought, well,
the Commonwealth are very powerful. Yes, Australia will be embarrassed.
There has to be an answer so that sports that
basically the Comnwealth Games is their pinnacle network will.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Need to get sorted out.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, we have no answer, but what we do have
is a bit of a deep dive into just how
much not having these games is.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Costing is costing Because we didn't have all of the
figures at the time of our deep dive, we knew
there was potentials thrown out there of five, maybe six
maybe seven billion dollars that this game's were going to
cost us, and that's why we couldn't go ahead with it,
according to the then premiere, Daniel Andrews. But tell me
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how much has it cost us already?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Well, we know there was the bill that we owed
the police seven million dollars.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
That's right, yes, yes, And now.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
According to a twenty twenty six Cornwealth Games Organizing Committees
annual report, taxpayers spent eleven million dollars on the Organizing
Committee's employee costs last financial year alone, and they are
getting paid out no and not like the games are
still going ahead and this is.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
What that looks like.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
So a report that was released on the first of
November revealed that thirty two executives working to deliver the
games thirty two thirty.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Two big room being a long table, very long table.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That's sixteen a side. That is a long table. It
is gosh my math. Then I was like two.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Who deliver the games were paid a minimum of one
hundred and eighty thousand dollars a year. Ten of those
people were paid in excess of three hundred thousand dollars
a year, while one was being paid more than five
hundred thousand dollars a year to decipher how they were
going to make this game's work and then still get
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paid it for not being able to figure out that cipher.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So Shadow Sports Minister Sam Groth i e the giant
man with the fast serve. If you're wondering where that
name is coming from. Australian ten is Great is saying
that the Games is now expected to cost at least
six hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Six hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, that's not seven billion.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
At least would have had something, George, We would have
had infrastructure in the games. But the question is where
are they going to be now? The Gold Coast has
been very loud about wanting to host.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
It and met Tom tap meyor Tom Tay.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yeah, the mayor has no power.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
That's Sue is saying absolutely not on our own persons
saying they might help it.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Gena Reinhart, yes, this is this.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Is this is fresh fresh information. Is that Gena Reinhart
has now backed the concept of maybe having a Gold
Coast and Perth like joint venture to host these games.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Have I completely made that up?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Do we think Dan thought to call Gina and say, babe,
you've got six maybe seven billion dollars?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Potently he should have put in a phone call.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I just don't know when this is going to be resolved.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And until it is, the bills are just going to
keep on racking up.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know what, episode one of Two Good Sports. Next
year we will retouch on this and hopefully have a resolution.
But we need to get going because when you think
of Commwalth Games, you think of swimmers from Australia winning goal.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
That's right. Wonderful news Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
We didn't get.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Expelled, Yes, we didn't get expelled from the world A
quatting's body, thank god, A wild sentence. I feel that
we This was a defining moment for Two Good Sports
throughout the year because no one was talking about non Australia.
But I'm patting ourselves on the back here until we
started talking about it, because we were like, excuse me,
hang on.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Just a note. It says here in the fine print
that we may be expelled.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
We just won the world chance.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Pardon sorry, what and what would be expelled mean? Well,
to remind you, dear listener, that would have meant that
some of our top swimmers, our top names Arianne Tipmas,
would be competing under a neutral flag, which just seems bizarre,
bizarre or unfathomable.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
And yet we were very close.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So close, And the reason that we were threatened with
expulsion was because the board at Swimming Australia was not
up to par with what the world governing body was expecting.
They wanted a diversification of the board, they wanted a
complete regeneration, and they wanted this revolving door of leadership
that really had epitomized Swimming Australia to stop spinning.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And it felt like the swimmers were like, oh, thank god, yeah,
can someone please govern our governance because this is getting
out of control. And it seemed like a lot of
good administrators were getting the opportunity and getting gridlocked because
of such a small amount of votes dictating and they
needed to have more voices, and that's what happened.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
It changed over.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yes, so we do have more voices now on the board,
including a very important athlete representative, So the athletes can
feel that they now have a voice when it comes
to issues that actually directly affect them. They get to
have a say in that, which is what the World
Body thought was a great idea.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So Swimming Australia got into the line.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You can draw comparisons between what happened at Swimming Australia
and what's happening at rugby Australia right now. That there's
so much power to the States, it's difficult for the
governing body to get change made, except our swimmers are
doing really well.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yes, that's the that's the big difference with different carra
behind the scenes. All on fire in the pool, all.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Good, also on fire, but on fire.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Wow, I'm an idiot. That was so right. On fire
in a good way, in.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
A good way, on fire. The Matilda.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Matilda's you know what, I love that this is where
we've chosen to finish. Yeah, not that the headline says
the matildas it says Lewis Roubialees. But I'm going to
talk about the Matilda's and the fact that they are
for lygging and sold out eleven consecutive stadiums in Australia.
So where we last left you was after the World Cup,
where we were on the highest of highs.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
They then had Olympic qualifiers.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yes, one, all of those one all of those smashed.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Them in incredible fashion, one of those at a sold
out Perth stadium. Yes, in front of near on sixty
thousand p people, and it just fills your heart with joy.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
And it goes to show, once again, patting ourselves on
the back, that we were right responsible. We're responsible for
the Matildas, but we're also we were right in saying
that the Matilda's effect had completely changed sport in this
country forever. And we have started to see that because
there will not be your time when the Matilda's are playing,
that people won't know about it and people won't want
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to be there because they will just continue selling out stadiums.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
And Mary Fowler is dating Nathan Cleary, who broke your heart, which.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I still have not come to terms with this.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
My Mary with Nathan Cleary who just ripped out my heart,
stomped on it, then put it through a shredder, and
then said, hey, you still work.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
But we do need to talk about Lewis Rivialis because
he was one of our major deep diyes, because we
all remember the uncomfortable kiss with Jenny Emoso and just
going what's happening here? And we saw the Spanish football
federation completely implode upon itself.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yes we did.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
We did, remember, dear listener, the scenes of Spain winning
the World Cup with that incredible team. Yes, it was
so unfortunate that so much of the commentary was stolen
by Lewis Rubalis and everything that happened with him in
the aftermath of that tournament, because when you actually do
just sit in isolation and look at that team and
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what they did to England in that final.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
And the fact that they were all young, because so
many of the players had to revolt against the coach
to even be on that stage at a World Cup.
If it was a movie, remove the Lewis roubales and
it is worthy of that plotline.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Oh yeah, but my god, did it just monster world football?
It did?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
It did, and a lot and for a lot of people.
I remember we talked about it in the Deep Dive.
There was this perception that ultimately the kiss was a
good thing because it had people talking about a in
world football. It shone the light on the marchoism that
exists in Spanish football in particular, and it said, hang
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on a second, we're not okay with that.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
This isn't good.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And to see that team and what it represents in
that nation and how it made a social movement happen
as well and made that possible was really quite crazy
to see.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Do what I wish that we checked before this so
that we could follow up. How's Luis Rubialez's mum going?
Oh my god? Her son has since been banned from.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Football related activities for three years. So basically Spanish football
refused to stand the man down. Yeah, and Louis Roubalez
has gone, well, FIFA have said you need to get
in the corner for three years.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Is she still in the church?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Is she still?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Is she?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Is she still proclaiming her son's innocence?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And on that hunger strike, remember that, like, honestly, the
story was wild wild. She was upset that her son
had been being called out for being slightly sex system
misogynistic and for his assault that happened in front of
the entire world and was like, oh, hang on, I'm
just going to go on a hunger strike because it's
really just too much for me.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
So to recap.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Jenny Himoso was able to get a restraining order, Yes,
that was in September, for the fact that Rubiales cannot
come within two hundred meters of her. The World Football
Society wrapped their arms around her.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yes, and Rubiales is banned for three years.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I would think given the band from FIFA, he is
untouchable after that time, and do as in I think
he will not come back into football.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I disagree completely.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I think that this three years is a slap on
the wrist. I think he would walk back into certain
football teams, maybe even the Spanish football team. I don't
see it as being a lashing impact.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't see it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I don't see the world of cancel culture.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Cancel culture is so fickle. No, I do not think so.
He has such gravitas in the game that I hope
I hope that he doesn't just get the chance to
walk back in. But I can see him walking back
in in a very high paid job behind the scenes,
not necessarily a front forward, public facing role so much
as he was.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But I can totally see him back in that administration.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I hear how you might see that now, But think
about the progress we've seen women's sport in three years,
Imagine the progress in another three I.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Can only hope that that happens. Right now, I'm a pessimist.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Stay tuned for the follow up in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Tell me, though, what was your favorite moment of the
entire year? Do you think your favorite sporting moment? I mean, okay, look,
let's be honest, dear listener, We're both going to say
the Matilda's They were our favorite.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
We love them so much.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Just what they have done for sport in general, male
female sport has been exceptional. But apart from them, what
have you loved?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Listening to Peter Bowl just now made me happy?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
If we're talking about topics that we've covered, I think
seeing someone that was innocent exonerated and then to see
the power of that person to go this has given
me mental strengths I didn't have before. I'm ready. I
just think there's so much to be said there for
role models. Yeah, I think it's an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
You Broncos, my Broncos. Even though we lost, broke you.
They did. They did break me in that NRL Grand
Final where you know, there literally had to be a
historic comeback, the biggest comeback in Grand Final history to
beat us, and they managed it, the Panthers. But the
excitement that they gave me throughout the year, the love
that they re installed in me for rugby league and
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that team, and just the anticipation that I now have
for next season as well to see how they do.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
It's been my favorite moment, hands down.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
One more the story arc of the Australian cricket team
getting that one day World Cup win, in the fact
that everyone was throwing rock saying we haven't prepared properly,
they've played too much cricket, we're going nowhere. Glenn Maxwell
going full Salmon and giving us one of the greatest
innings that we will ever see.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
It's one of the greatest innings that.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
He was paralyzed and yet didn't have to run because
he seemed to just find the rope a double ton.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It's obscene. You're right, India, Oh.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
God, in India. That was very special. The year of
the World Cups is coming to a close. So many,
so many, but don't worry. Twenty twenty four is pretty
chill on the other Olympics.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
We'll see you then.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Tell me. Yeah, it's time for another Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah, speaking hello. It is she, It is she. It's
a good thing.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
This is coming to an end because you're not getting
crazier as it goes on.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
We need to regroup. But how are you calling about
a fun fat? I am calling.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
About a fun fat and I have some details if
you've got some time, if you'd like to listen.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
To that's always dull hash.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
We are finishing the year of two good sports with
a fun fact which really does actually tie in nicely
to how this year started from a sporting sense, because
Novak Djokovic won the Australian Open if you go all
those months back to January this year, but the Joker
has won a record seventh ATP Finals title as of
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last week, meaning that once again fun fact, he is
ahead of Roger Federer, which just I mean, stabbed me
in the eye makes me sad.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Do you think that Djokovic is victim of the Nadal
Federer attacks? Yes, as in you cannot be viewed in
the hero light because that spot.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Is taken one hundred percent. He's a victim of that.
He's also a victim of his own personality.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Valid both, But I also just think like Djokovic beating
Federer feels like when Bambi mum got shot.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Honestly, again and again.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
It keeps happening. You go.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I know that this is the circle of life. I
know that things will be fine. Records are there to
be broken, but leave them alone.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
But give us the record for a hot second, just
a hot second.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I mean feder is off being serenaded by Boticelli.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Oh, yeah, you're right, he's still well, this little little
RF little logo.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Oh and sponsoring pasta, which makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
That makes absolutely no sense. Your Swiss, babe, you're Swist.
It's the chocolate rog.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
But we are excited about the fact that Jokovic is
going to be back in Australia. We're excited for the
summer of tennis. But he is arguably the greatest of
all time. He now has to say that he's the greatest.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Ninety eight singles titles overall on that men's turn.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And he's not slowing down, no, no, He has spent
four hundred weeks as world number one over the course
of his career. That's ninety weeks more than Federer, which again.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Why is dead?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
You don't need to qualify who beat We get it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, she's already dead.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
We get it.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
We get a Novak.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
You're good.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You're good?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Are we good?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah? Well we're really good. We two good sports.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, that's it. That's it for us for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
We have genuinely loved this. It's been the highlight of
our week.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, it really has.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
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Speaker 6 (32:25):
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Speaker 4 (32:50):
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Speaker 3 (32:53):
And as always, have an amazing safe holiday period. Big
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'm Georgie Tunney.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
And I'm Abby Jelmy and George. It's our final episode
for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Our last show of the year.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm both excited and sad because I'm very proud of
what we've been able to do in our debut season.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm giving ourselves the Clive Churchill then of Smith well
done us. We love praise.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
You can have Clive well done.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yep, yep, go us, go us.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
But we have had such a fun time talking to you,
dear listener, and to each other about all the things
that have just made our little brains tick this year.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
We have had so much fun.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
And yet this is the episode that I'm most excited
about because we touched on so many different topics, and
as happens in sports news and Sports News Told Differently,
the story progresses yeah after we tell it, and some
of these have gone in the most remarkable directions that
we're going to go back through all the different things
that we have already discussed and tell you how the
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story's ended to this point. Some of them calm games
haven't ended.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Some of them still TBC.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But the deep dives we are getting the updated depth.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
So add the jingle here, Welcome to the recap.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's a festive season when you turn on the telling
you and you see the best of Well we're doing
that in a podcast. Welcome aboard, and we are starting
with Peter Bowl, Georgie. Where else are we going to
start but Peter Bowl. Let's find out what the legend
is up to and how is feeling ahead of the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
You've gone through some dark times.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Talk about what that was like for you.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
Yeah, very tough times and thankfully we got through it.
But you know there's times that you needed to go through.
And I said before, like I would have take anything,
but because like the storm that you kin't need to
go through to be resilient enough to prepare for what's
to come, which is the Paris Olympic Games. I'm looking
forward to coming back home and giving my fans something
really so I'm looking forward to coming racing. I'll race
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my first race probably in Sydney and then hopefully get
to Perth, my hometown, and give the fans a show
over there. Just make it home before going to Paris.
I'm stronger mentally, and that's what I was missing at
the at the Toky Olympic Games. The mental game over
the the physical and the physical will come.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
If there was a resilience ometer that existed and that
we could quantify a human's potential resilience reserves, Peter Bowl
is off the scale.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I genuinely have goosebumps because if it's possible to have
a favorite sporting moment that hasn't happened, Yes, if Peter
Bowl gets on the podium in Paris, I will lose
my actual mind.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And there is big promise, yes, Joe.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Then, firstly, the context of this is that that was
speaking at a major sponsor. If you long genes, so
the sponsors are back on because he is returned and
that big smile all throughout that video.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
He is back to being the Golden Boy.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
And we touched on the story George to the fact
that he was on the back page of newspapers around
the country branded a cheat for a drug test that
was false.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
The dark times you talk about it. There the reporter
asking him, you know, really, it's possible that we're underplaying
this by just calling it. Yeah, those dark times that
you went through got pretty hut.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I wasn't allowed to train or compete wild.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Wild for an athlete of his caliber to be labeled
that without any at the time specific or full proof. Remember,
the original story was Peter Bowl tests positive to a
performance enhancing drug. He immediately denies it. The result itself
was leaked. It was just his a sample. This was
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before his B sample was returned, fast forward and in
the end completely exonerated because.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It was a false positive.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
And yet there will still be people around Australia go,
Peter Bowl. Wasn't he that guy that was a drug cheat?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
People don't stay up with the news cycle.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
As much as you and me, So let's remind you
completely exonerated, hoping to be on the podium and should
he achieve it.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Good God.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
But that's one of my favorite progressions that we've covered
all year. He was in the dumps, he's lifted back up,
and we're going to keep telling you how great he
is and get on the bandwagon. And as he said,
we're going to see him racing around Australia too. But
let's move on to Meg Lanning.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Oh tell me, I remember when we were doing this
deep dive on Meg Lanning and it was more of
a welfare check for you. If I'm honest, Fine, she is.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
One of your all time favorite athletes, male or female.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You love her.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
She announced her retirement from international cricket. We took it hard,
some of us more than others.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And the seal of George was the fact that we
were going to be able to watch in the w
yes and the hope that it was coming from a
place of that she was at peace with her decision
and that she was in a good place and was
going to really enjoy her domestic cricket. The progression that
we've seen in the last couple of weeks is that
she's taking a break for personal reasons from the WBBL,
and we don't know what those reasons are, or we
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know that is the coach said that, Look, we're putting
our arms around and we're supporting Meg. We don't want
to speculate on what those reasons are. I'm sad as
a cricket fan that we're not getting to watch her
because she was in wonderful form.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
She was she was, and there is no doubt in
my mind that if Meg had not pulled the pin,
she would be the first person selected still for Australia. Absolutely,
she would one thousand percent be like, okay, we'll building
the team around Meg once again. We can only wish
her well and hope that she is doing okay and
that she is using this time to just figure out
what she wants, which is what she said in that
(05:51):
incredibly emotional press conference that I remember us listening to,
and I believe the words were If that went on
for another four seconds, I would have been a puddle
from GELM.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I love that you drop an octave when you pretend
to be me. That that was good. That did sound
like me, to be fair.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But no, Meg Lanning sending some of you bears, We're
sending all of our thoughts. We hope that we see
her again, but if we don't, she owes us nothing.
She's given us everything for the better part of thirteen years.
But let's hope we do see her back to the
stars soon.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know who they could be really be needing her
at the moment is the stars. They could really have
used her, but they are set to miss the finals
for the WBPL, which is unfortunate but really our consensus
with me.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Speaking of concerned Netball Australia, it is going from bad
to worse to the house is on fire.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
The house is on fire, the driveway is on fire.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's blown up.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It has blown up because net for Australia. Wow wow, wow.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
We did not think that the crisis that is this
code in this country could enter another stratosphere of drama.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well how will we?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
During our deep dive, it was focused on the As
of today the time of this recording is still unresolved CPA.
So the collective players agreement between Netball Australia, the governing
body and the players Association trying to work out the
best funding model and payment model, revenue share model or
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profit share model that will work for this sport going forward.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
To this point, there is still no agreement, still no agreement,
And Georgie, you do what makes that even more uncomfortable?
An awards night where everyone is to gather and celebrate.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
This is the latest. Let's have a listen.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
About a dozen super NETBWK players boycotted Netble Australia's annual
awards ceremony in protests last night, and Diamonds players posted
messages online saying they only attended the awards because they
are contractually obligated to do so.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
So this is.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Vision of the ceremony with Courtney Bruce winning the Liz
Ellis Diamond Awards Player of the Year. Now Netborle Australia
has confirmed to us this morning that it sent a
legal letter to players just hours before the awards, threatening
legal action if they didn't comply with their contracts and
actually attend the ceremony.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
A legal letter to get you off the couch and
get you to that awards night. How fun, What a
fun night.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
My sources tell me. And I love people that start
sentences that way. So my sources tell me that they
are close. They're extremely close to coming to a deal.
There's still little nuances to work out. But in that meantime,
eight weeks of no pay.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Of no pay for the supernetballers. And I do know
that at that awards night, everyone who was present because
they were contractually obligated to be present, and who did
win something, their acceptance speeches were all. We stand in
solidarity with the players and what is happening at the
moment because.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I when we did this.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Deep dive, we went into great depth about how untenable
we thought the relationship was between the governing body and
the players. There was such a huge breakdown. How on
earth do you let an awards night go ahead like this?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Because Corney Bruce deserves to be celebrated.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, but she's won the Alan Border the Norm Smith that,
like she's won the Dally M. Yeah, for her sport,
she deserves to, Like the liz Ella, she deserves to
be celebrated.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
But in that way it takes away from it. No
one's going to remember that she won the Lizzellis Medal.
Everyone's going to remember that people were being forced to
be there and pretend to be happy.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
But if netball Australia is in crisis, it is May
Day for the Wallabies.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Oh gosh, get.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
The flags out, the white flag, surrender start again.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So, dear listener, where we left our deep dive on
the crisis. The absolute shit show that is rugby Australia
was they were coachless, they were rudderless, and really.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Were they futureless?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
At this point I'm seeing nothing to have turned any
of that around. Eddie Jones officially has stood down as
of yet still not officially the Japanese coach, however, he
is over in Japan right now, and.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan had said, I'm not quitting,
that's right. I'm showing my children that I don't quit.
I'm not leaving, that's right.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And he was like, and really, guys, you can't put
the blame on me. I'm here delivering all of the things.
I'm bringing the sponsors. I'm living up to all these promises.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
And he tried to centralize power and take power away
from the States, and you know what the States did.
We're gonna vote you out, buddy. You do what people
don't like in power when you try to take some
from them.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So the latest update for the Wallabies is that Hamish mcclennan,
who was very unpopular towards the end of that tenure,
has stood down.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
No chance of being popular. You're not having success as
a matter. If you're Santa Claus, people are going to
vote you out of the North Pole.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yes, yes, And I do think remember how we were
focusing on Eddie Jones was brought in and that was
meant to be a Hamish McLennan captain's call, really bringing
in Eddie Jones to replace the outgoing coach at the time,
Dave Rennie, to revolutionize this team, lead us through the
France World Cup of this year and then steady the
ship into our home World Cup in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
He was meant to deliver the results.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Now that obviously did not happen, but I don't think
that was the not many people had an issue.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
With McLennan doing that.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The breakdown and communication between that partnership though, big problems
because there was a disparity between what Eddie was expecting
to be delivered and what was actually delivered. And now
Rugby Australia finds itself with a new chair. I think
Daniel Herbert has taken the reins now and he could
be good for the game, but god.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
He has so that was amounted on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
He said on Friday the was not on my radar,
so this is not it's not something that he saw coming.
He's been on the board for a while and he
essentially said, well, this is going to be new, and
I think the message that I saw from Daniel Herbert,
who is a World Cup winning Wallaby himself, was that
we need to get results. Yes, we need success on
field and essentially said that the Wallabies are the shop
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front for Australian rugby.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And my god, is that true.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
If the Wallabies are doing well, everything else trickles down.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I know, but I just do not see how they're
going to get those results. I do not see how
they are going to get that success on the field
because it is such a dumpster fire behind the scenes,
even with this changing of the guard.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
But wait, there's more. When I say.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Dumpster fire, let's just add a little bit of fuel
onto that.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Because Rugby Australia has taken out an eighty million dollar alone,
what a whistle from you, excellent, an eighty million dollar
loone just to try and stay afloat to get to
this home World Cup, which is still four years away,
so a long time away, but also a very short
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time in order to you know, doubtbuild this dumpster fire.
The other key part here is that yes, we are
in need of eighty million dollars to try and keep
this sport afloat, but we also may have lost a
million dollars to the French Rugby Federation because we decided
that we would play France in a practice match in
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the lead up to the Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
We lost that game just by the bye.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Is it stunning, no one, But we decided we agreed
to play that game and a handshake deal, thinking that
we were going to earn a million dollars from it.
What we were actually paid was one hundred thousand dollars.
Obviously that's a little bit, a little bit of a difference.
So Rugby Australia thought, hang on a second, that's not
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adding up. We've done these sums. No, no, no, France,
where's our money. Turns out that the French Rugby Federation
may not need to honor the deal. Honor that deal
because the contract wasn't tight, because the contract was not
written down. And even more, here's the kicker that the
head of the French rugby union at the time, he's
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no longer there because he was fired and literally charged
with corruption.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
So we've had a corrupt and shake with no watertight contract.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
But we're calling and saying you owe.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Us a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
A nine hundred thousand is the gap between what we
were paid and what we'd like I don't know if
you've seen the headlines. We're in a little bit of strife.
So if you could be pay that, that would be great.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
If you can just hurry up. Yep, thank you so much,
would be amazing. I've got bay Id, thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
We would love rugby in Australia to do well. God,
we're both fans of the game. Yeah, we don't want
to be naysayers. We don't want to laugh and kick
at them while they're down, but just sometimes there's a
contract with the corrupt head of and it just is
a little bit hard to sit back and be like
guys sorted.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Out come on, because you just think when you think that,
when you think it can't get worse, there's rugby Australia.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And when you think that there's not more headlines to come,
you would be wrong because coming up next some of
our favorite stories, the calm Games, Oh Swimming Australia. Did
we get expelled?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Did we not?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
We've got the follow up and Lewis Ruby as so
much happened this year. Let us pray that man who's
kissing football goodbye. See what I did there? I see
that's all coming up.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Georgie.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Can you believe that we are almost at the end
of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I can't. I can't.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
It's outrageous.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
It feels both the longest year of my life and
also the shortest year of my life.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I don't know that possible, but that's what's happened.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
So next year would be twenty twenty four, which I mean,
we're just two years out from a Commonwealth Games that
doesn't have a venue still, or a location still, or
any sort of direction, and Australia is left with blood
on their hands. Maybe not blood on their fans, but
egg on their face.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Definitely egg on their face.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Because the Andrews government now led by Victorian Premier de
Cinta Allen, who, as we discussed when we did the
deep dive on this, was actually the person that was
behind the bid at the hell the Regional Victoria to
host the twenty twenty six Commonwealth Games. Well, no one
has picked up the lemon.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yes, the lemon, that's right, that's what you called it.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Lemon of six maybe seven billion dollars. We thought, well,
the Commonwealth are very powerful. Yes, Australia will be embarrassed.
There has to be an answer so that sports that
basically the Comnwealth Games is their pinnacle network will.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Need to get sorted out.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, we have no answer, but what we do have
is a bit of a deep dive into just how
much not having these games is.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Costing is costing Because we didn't have all of the
figures at the time of our deep dive, we knew
there was potentials thrown out there of five, maybe six
maybe seven billion dollars that this game's were going to
cost us, and that's why we couldn't go ahead with it,
according to the then premiere, Daniel Andrews. But tell me
(17:28):
how much has it cost us already?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Well, we know there was the bill that we owed
the police seven million dollars.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
That's right, yes, yes, And now.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
According to a twenty twenty six Cornwealth Games Organizing Committees
annual report, taxpayers spent eleven million dollars on the Organizing
Committee's employee costs last financial year alone, and they are
getting paid out no and not like the games are
still going ahead and this is.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
What that looks like.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
So a report that was released on the first of
November revealed that thirty two executives working to deliver the
games thirty two thirty.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Two big room being a long table, very long table.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That's sixteen a side. That is a long table. It
is gosh my math. Then I was like two.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Who deliver the games were paid a minimum of one
hundred and eighty thousand dollars a year. Ten of those
people were paid in excess of three hundred thousand dollars
a year, while one was being paid more than five
hundred thousand dollars a year to decipher how they were
going to make this game's work and then still get
(18:37):
paid it for not being able to figure out that cipher.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So Shadow Sports Minister Sam Groth i e the giant
man with the fast serve. If you're wondering where that
name is coming from. Australian ten is Great is saying
that the Games is now expected to cost at least
six hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Six hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, that's not seven billion.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
At least would have had something, George, We would have
had infrastructure in the games. But the question is where
are they going to be now? The Gold Coast has
been very loud about wanting to host.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
It and met Tom tap meyor Tom Tay.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yeah, the mayor has no power.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
That's Sue is saying absolutely not on our own persons
saying they might help it.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Gena Reinhart, yes, this is this.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Is this is fresh fresh information. Is that Gena Reinhart
has now backed the concept of maybe having a Gold
Coast and Perth like joint venture to host these games.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Have I completely made that up?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Do we think Dan thought to call Gina and say, babe,
you've got six maybe seven billion dollars?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Potently he should have put in a phone call.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I just don't know when this is going to be resolved.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And until it is, the bills are just going to
keep on racking up.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know what, episode one of Two Good Sports. Next
year we will retouch on this and hopefully have a resolution.
But we need to get going because when you think
of Commwalth Games, you think of swimmers from Australia winning goal.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
That's right. Wonderful news Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
We didn't get.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Expelled, Yes, we didn't get expelled from the world A
quatting's body, thank god, A wild sentence. I feel that
we This was a defining moment for Two Good Sports
throughout the year because no one was talking about non Australia.
But I'm patting ourselves on the back here until we
started talking about it, because we were like, excuse me,
hang on.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Just a note. It says here in the fine print
that we may be expelled.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
We just won the world chance.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Pardon sorry, what and what would be expelled mean? Well,
to remind you, dear listener, that would have meant that
some of our top swimmers, our top names Arianne Tipmas,
would be competing under a neutral flag, which just seems bizarre,
bizarre or unfathomable.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
And yet we were very close.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So close, And the reason that we were threatened with
expulsion was because the board at Swimming Australia was not
up to par with what the world governing body was expecting.
They wanted a diversification of the board, they wanted a
complete regeneration, and they wanted this revolving door of leadership
that really had epitomized Swimming Australia to stop spinning.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And it felt like the swimmers were like, oh, thank god, yeah,
can someone please govern our governance because this is getting
out of control. And it seemed like a lot of
good administrators were getting the opportunity and getting gridlocked because
of such a small amount of votes dictating and they
needed to have more voices, and that's what happened.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
It changed over.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yes, so we do have more voices now on the board,
including a very important athlete representative, So the athletes can
feel that they now have a voice when it comes
to issues that actually directly affect them. They get to
have a say in that, which is what the World
Body thought was a great idea.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So Swimming Australia got into the line.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You can draw comparisons between what happened at Swimming Australia
and what's happening at rugby Australia right now. That there's
so much power to the States, it's difficult for the
governing body to get change made, except our swimmers are
doing really well.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yes, that's the that's the big difference with different carra
behind the scenes. All on fire in the pool, all.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Good, also on fire, but on fire.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Wow, I'm an idiot. That was so right. On fire
in a good way, in.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
A good way, on fire. The Matilda.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Matilda's you know what, I love that this is where
we've chosen to finish. Yeah, not that the headline says
the matildas it says Lewis Roubialees. But I'm going to
talk about the Matilda's and the fact that they are
for lygging and sold out eleven consecutive stadiums in Australia.
So where we last left you was after the World Cup,
where we were on the highest of highs.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
They then had Olympic qualifiers.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yes, one, all of those one all of those smashed.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Them in incredible fashion, one of those at a sold
out Perth stadium. Yes, in front of near on sixty
thousand p people, and it just fills your heart with joy.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
And it goes to show, once again, patting ourselves on
the back, that we were right responsible. We're responsible for
the Matildas, but we're also we were right in saying
that the Matilda's effect had completely changed sport in this
country forever. And we have started to see that because
there will not be your time when the Matilda's are playing,
that people won't know about it and people won't want
(23:25):
to be there because they will just continue selling out stadiums.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
And Mary Fowler is dating Nathan Cleary, who broke your heart, which.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I still have not come to terms with this.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
My Mary with Nathan Cleary who just ripped out my heart,
stomped on it, then put it through a shredder, and
then said, hey, you still work.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
But we do need to talk about Lewis Rivialis because
he was one of our major deep diyes, because we
all remember the uncomfortable kiss with Jenny Emoso and just
going what's happening here? And we saw the Spanish football
federation completely implode upon itself.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yes we did.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
We did, remember, dear listener, the scenes of Spain winning
the World Cup with that incredible team. Yes, it was
so unfortunate that so much of the commentary was stolen
by Lewis Rubalis and everything that happened with him in
the aftermath of that tournament, because when you actually do
just sit in isolation and look at that team and
(24:28):
what they did to England in that final.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
And the fact that they were all young, because so
many of the players had to revolt against the coach
to even be on that stage at a World Cup.
If it was a movie, remove the Lewis roubales and
it is worthy of that plotline.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Oh yeah, but my god, did it just monster world football?
It did?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
It did, and a lot and for a lot of people.
I remember we talked about it in the Deep Dive.
There was this perception that ultimately the kiss was a
good thing because it had people talking about a in
world football. It shone the light on the marchoism that
exists in Spanish football in particular, and it said, hang
(25:09):
on a second, we're not okay with that.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
This isn't good.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And to see that team and what it represents in
that nation and how it made a social movement happen
as well and made that possible was really quite crazy
to see.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Do what I wish that we checked before this so
that we could follow up. How's Luis Rubialez's mum going?
Oh my god? Her son has since been banned from.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Football related activities for three years. So basically Spanish football
refused to stand the man down. Yeah, and Louis Roubalez
has gone, well, FIFA have said you need to get
in the corner for three years.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Is she still in the church?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Is she still?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Is she?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Is she still proclaiming her son's innocence?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And on that hunger strike, remember that, like, honestly, the
story was wild wild. She was upset that her son
had been being called out for being slightly sex system
misogynistic and for his assault that happened in front of
the entire world and was like, oh, hang on, I'm
just going to go on a hunger strike because it's
really just too much for me.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
So to recap.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Jenny Himoso was able to get a restraining order, Yes,
that was in September, for the fact that Rubiales cannot
come within two hundred meters of her. The World Football
Society wrapped their arms around her.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yes, and Rubiales is banned for three years.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I would think given the band from FIFA, he is
untouchable after that time, and do as in I think
he will not come back into football.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I disagree completely.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I think that this three years is a slap on
the wrist. I think he would walk back into certain
football teams, maybe even the Spanish football team. I don't
see it as being a lashing impact.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't see it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
I don't see the world of cancel culture.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Cancel culture is so fickle. No, I do not think so.
He has such gravitas in the game that I hope
I hope that he doesn't just get the chance to
walk back in. But I can see him walking back
in in a very high paid job behind the scenes,
not necessarily a front forward, public facing role so much
as he was.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But I can totally see him back in that administration.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I hear how you might see that now, But think
about the progress we've seen women's sport in three years,
Imagine the progress in another three I.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Can only hope that that happens. Right now, I'm a pessimist.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Stay tuned for the follow up in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Tell me, though, what was your favorite moment of the
entire year? Do you think your favorite sporting moment? I mean, okay, look,
let's be honest, dear listener, We're both going to say
the Matilda's They were our favorite.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
We love them so much.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Just what they have done for sport in general, male
female sport has been exceptional. But apart from them, what
have you loved?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Listening to Peter Bowl just now made me happy?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
If we're talking about topics that we've covered, I think
seeing someone that was innocent exonerated and then to see
the power of that person to go this has given
me mental strengths I didn't have before. I'm ready. I
just think there's so much to be said there for
role models. Yeah, I think it's an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
You Broncos, my Broncos. Even though we lost, broke you.
They did. They did break me in that NRL Grand
Final where you know, there literally had to be a
historic comeback, the biggest comeback in Grand Final history to
beat us, and they managed it, the Panthers. But the
excitement that they gave me throughout the year, the love
that they re installed in me for rugby league and
(28:42):
that team, and just the anticipation that I now have
for next season as well to see how they do.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
It's been my favorite moment, hands down.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
One more the story arc of the Australian cricket team
getting that one day World Cup win, in the fact
that everyone was throwing rock saying we haven't prepared properly,
they've played too much cricket, we're going nowhere. Glenn Maxwell
going full Salmon and giving us one of the greatest
innings that we will ever see.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
It's one of the greatest innings that.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
He was paralyzed and yet didn't have to run because
he seemed to just find the rope a double ton.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It's obscene. You're right, India, Oh.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
God, in India. That was very special. The year of
the World Cups is coming to a close. So many,
so many, but don't worry. Twenty twenty four is pretty
chill on the other Olympics.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
We'll see you then.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Tell me. Yeah, it's time for another Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah, speaking hello. It is she, It is she. It's
a good thing.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
This is coming to an end because you're not getting
crazier as it goes on.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
We need to regroup. But how are you calling about
a fun fat? I am calling.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
About a fun fat and I have some details if
you've got some time, if you'd like to listen.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
To that's always dull hash.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
We are finishing the year of two good sports with
a fun fact which really does actually tie in nicely
to how this year started from a sporting sense, because
Novak Djokovic won the Australian Open if you go all
those months back to January this year, but the Joker
has won a record seventh ATP Finals title as of
(30:28):
last week, meaning that once again fun fact, he is
ahead of Roger Federer, which just I mean, stabbed me
in the eye makes me sad.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Do you think that Djokovic is victim of the Nadal
Federer attacks? Yes, as in you cannot be viewed in
the hero light because that spot.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Is taken one hundred percent. He's a victim of that.
He's also a victim of his own personality.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Valid both, But I also just think like Djokovic beating
Federer feels like when Bambi mum got shot.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Honestly, again and again.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
It keeps happening. You go.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I know that this is the circle of life. I
know that things will be fine. Records are there to
be broken, but leave them alone.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
But give us the record for a hot second, just
a hot second.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I mean feder is off being serenaded by Boticelli.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Oh, yeah, you're right, he's still well, this little little
RF little logo.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Oh and sponsoring pasta, which makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
That makes absolutely no sense. Your Swiss, babe, you're Swist.
It's the chocolate rog.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
But we are excited about the fact that Jokovic is
going to be back in Australia. We're excited for the
summer of tennis. But he is arguably the greatest of
all time. He now has to say that he's the greatest.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Ninety eight singles titles overall on that men's turn.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And he's not slowing down, no, no, He has spent
four hundred weeks as world number one over the course
of his career. That's ninety weeks more than Federer, which again.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Why is dead?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
You don't need to qualify who beat We get it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, she's already dead.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
We get it.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
We get a Novak.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
You're good.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You're good?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Are we good?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah? Well we're really good. We two good sports.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, that's it. That's it for us for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
We have genuinely loved this. It's been the highlight of
our week.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, it really has.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Sorry for me. We'd love your feedback.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
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Speaker 4 (32:38):
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Speaker 2 (32:40):
Pin Yeah right, actually right, that's better. All negative reviews
CC to a rubbish bin near you.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
We've genuinely had a great time. We do want your feedback.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
And as always, have an amazing safe holiday period. Big
good Sport, Be good Sport, BEFO.
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