December 17, 2025 • 20 mins
Late nights, extra sugar, cousins everywhere - school holidays can turn even the best routines upside down. In this Dear Wiggles episode, Simon and Lachy reassure parents that a little chaos isn’t just normal, it can be part of the magic.
They’re joined by Evie and Tsehay, who share their own memories of school holidays - from family time and swimming to packed schedules and sweet treats - reminding us what kids actually remember.
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Simon Pryce
Lachlan Gillespie
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Evie Ferris
Tsehay Hawkins
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Produced by The Wiggles and Mylk Media
Madeline Joannou
Nick Webb
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Wiggles acknowledged the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia
and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay
our respects to elders, past, present and emerging.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome to Wiggle Talk Lockey. It's a podcast for parents.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
It sure is Simon and Hello, my name is Lachlan
gi Lesbie.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello. Sorry, carry on.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I was about to say what I always say, Purple Wiggle.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes, my name is Simon p u Rice, Yes with
a y because I said so, Yes, and I am
the red Wiggle. Yes, great to see you, lock you too.
We moved house recently, Yes, yes, we're loving it. But
what we realized is we're in such a great routine
with Asher in our old place. Yes, we had our
(00:52):
places to go. We go down to the skate park.
He was on his bike a lot, doing all kinds
of different activities. And when we moved, of course, all
that routine changes and Loz and I were like, he's
hardly ridden his bike at all. Yeah, we thankfully and
luckily you have a pool now so that takes up
(01:12):
a lot of his time. He loves swimming, so which
is part of the reason why we wanted to move.
But because he loves the water so much. But then
we realized all those other activities we were doing, we
just kind of canceled because we were so busy and
invested in moving into the house setting it up that
we kind of misjudged what that meant for him. Now
(01:33):
he wasn't saying anything about it, and he was swimming though.
That was a big part of the change. But it's
been nice to introduce back in him going for a
ride in his bike, us finding the local oval now
and we take the creek about the ball, the AFL
footy ball, and were actually starting to get that nice
(01:53):
little routine happening, which has been really good. But you
move on, maybe we do. That's who we are as
people move on so quickly. It's quite interesting. Yeah, And
I know we have spoken to some experts and psychologists
in the past with regards to if there's a trauma
that happens that that consistency of routine, Yes, is a
really important thing to continue on with, Yeah, because it
(02:16):
creates that normality that this is way more extreme me
saying this in this situation we're in, but it did
remind me of that to think, Okay, he's just literally
in the last two years, move house twice. You know,
there's lots of change, and it's important to keep that
sort of consistent routine for him and introduce new things
which he was enjoying. But so anyway, that's a little
(02:38):
bit of a rant on my.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
No, but that that's kind of Italian because we're talking
about holidays today. But that is children are so adaptable
and ash, I won't think back to that time and go, oh,
I'm miss.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Riding my bike for those No no, no, that's.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Because you'll get back to the cool new house he
moved into and the pool, all those memories and then,
like you said, you've just found again the the bike
and the other things in a different area or a
different setting. But it does tie nicely.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Simon, Oh well, I had no idea. That's deer Wiggle time.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yes, and your questions, your dilemmas.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
We're here from will try and we will, we will
do our best. Wigle talk, talk Talk, Wigle Talk.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It's Dear Wiggles.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Authorized by Simon Luckie.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
This one's a good eat. It's uh deer Wiggles. School
holidays have destroyed our routine late nights, early mornings. Sugar cousins,
cousins excitement, how do we keep kids steady when everything
is upside down for a few weeks? And that's from
AG good one.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Ag.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Holidays are great times, aren't they. And our wonderful producer Madeline,
when we're talking about this before, said which I hadn't
really thought about, but if you think back to being
a child, I remember going camping for years. That was
our first big family holidays.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I remember going to the lolly shop and we definitely
probably ate too much sugar. I don't know what time
we went to bed, but you don't any of those
no important parent facts. We might have been really tired,
but we saw kids we didn't see other times of
the year, and we went to the beach and we
had such a great time. We got to sleep in
the tent with our parents in the tent. Like there
were so many great positive things that happened on holidays.
(04:16):
Cousins is another big one, like a lot of kids. Yeah,
we never saw our cousins apart.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
From the hold times.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Afterwards, You're like, far right, it's great seeing our cousin.
We have so much connection. And then it goes back
to the school term and you just never see them
and never talk to them. So it's there's so many
positive so important thing to remember as a parent, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I think crse things out, but it does,
and to cut yourself a little bit of slack because
the whole thing changes. I was thinking about this today
because the Ashes is going to go to school and
school holidays and how difficult is for parents with both
parents working to navigate all that. That's really really really challenging,
and so of course things are going to be thrown
(04:56):
out and change because you have to. I think it's
a nice thing for children to have that change. Like
we're talking about earlier, I'm reminded to Ashes always traveled
with us a lot of the time, and so he
adapts really well to that sort of change, and he
has actually really comfortable in hotels. The last hotel rout
when we're on tour, he was like, can we stay
(05:17):
here for a week? You know, he gets excited about
it because there's some comfort in it. And I think
that kind of change that can happen is actually really
exciting for children. And I think as parents we can
get stuck in to make sure we can keep that
routine and keep. But in actual fact, like you were saying,
your experiences, what you recall and what you remember from
those holidays were just the fun times you were having,
(05:41):
not about whether you went to bed late, not about
any of those things at all, just that you were
having a great time on holidays with cousins or with
an extra ice cream and you would normally not have. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And I was thinking too with I've got a steps
on AJ and that that changes too. So there's a
whole side of that where we will get him back
after him spending some great time with his dad. It's different,
and it's not bad, but it's different. And then of
course you bounce back into routine. You set the eating
back up and the sleep back up, and it always
falls back in, but the routine will always be there.
And that's the great thing about a routine is you
(06:13):
know you'll jump straight back in. It might take a bit,
but then you see the results of having a great routine.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
The communication is kind of really important with this, and
I think we can talk to children. We can communicate
with them sometimes more than we feel that we can.
You can actually quite openly say to them we're going
to be doing things a little bit differently. The routine's
a bit out the window. We're going to get some lunch,
but it's going to be a bit later today. Because
of this, we might get to bed a bit later.
You can actually just talk through what the changes might
(06:40):
be for them to understand and then knowing for you, okay, well,
if this happens, there's a knock on effect which means
you won't get a bed later, which means then you
as a pairent, are prepared for that change of routine
as well. Like the other day we drove to Newcastle.
Asha Fellas, who's always going to was a two and
a half hour drive from Sydney, as she was going
(07:00):
to fall asleep in the car. He always falls asleep
in the car and a long drive regardless of what
time it is, and so we knew that in doing
that then that would put our routine out totally. And
in the past I think we've fall into the trap
of still trying to get him to bed at seven
thirty because at his bedtime, but he had an hour
and a half sleep in the middle of the day,
(07:21):
which he never has, so he's going to be up
till ten. That's just what's going to happen? And so
Lotz and I talked about it. We said, Okay, we'll
be up later tonight with Asher and we got our
heads around it. Then we didn't try to force something
on ashe or that he wasn't ready for, which meant
that it just would have been this conflict saying I'm
not tired, I'm not ready for bed. So we kind
of managed and negotiated that situation this time way better
(07:43):
than we have in the past because we understood what
was to come. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, And I'm just thinking back now to the holidays
where you had and we took a PlayStation or whatever
it was back then up to the coast each year.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
When we Donkey Kong, Yeah, Donkey Kong.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It was creaking and something else. But I probably played
too much screens in those those few weeks, but g
it was fun and that's a great memory I have.
And we still had lots of beach time and family
time and fish and chips, but it was you make
so many memories as children on holidays.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
My grandparents had a little holiday house at a Voca beach,
Central Coast outside of Sydney. They are my fondest memories
of school holidays. We'd probably go for a week at
a time, and then my cousins would come to and
we'd all kind of hang out there together. We'd all
do it as a little family holiday, and they were
such great times. And I don't remember anything about routines.
(08:34):
I don't remember it. I just remember being together as
a family. And the little milk bar at the beach
when they make that milk bar Hamburgers, oh yeah, you know,
and they had that space Invader machine at the front.
You know, just all those little things you remember, you know,
sand in your pants.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But isn't that the point You're a very young, fifty
year old gentleman, But those are the memories.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That you hold onto. You still remember those things that
happened so long ago.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
But that's what stays with you for your entire life,
those those little memories that are so random and look
so little, but so special. They were so simple and
so meaningful.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Now there's a few Wiggles hanging around the studio today. Yeah,
do you want to get a couple of them in
to talk about their summer holidays?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yep, aj You've you've started something.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, that's right. I'm looking forward to summer holidays. I
can't wait it soon. Hello.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Hello, right, well we've got our first guest in. She's
wearing her outfit.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Hello. You brought some colors to the pod.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Absolutely, great to see you, EVI great.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
To see you.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, you're read.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
If you want question, you regret walking past the door now,
don't you know?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, yes, it's great to have you here.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, we're talking about holidays, school holidays and routines. Now,
first of all, do you have any memories that you'd
like to share about your holidays when you were little,
and did you remember being tired or having too much
sugar or things like that.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Did you remember that too? Glad you came in.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, this is the best, not specifically the sugar.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
No, I remember loving school holidays and it was it
felt like such a big deal, almost like wrapping up.
I'm thinking back to primary school and I still lived
in cans as well.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
That's a good holiday destination.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It is summertime all year, it's swimming in the pool,
being with the family Christmas and it was the most
time I probably got to spend with my family.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Did you ever go away for school holidays or you
all planted yourself in cans and had your holidays at home.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, we mostly just planted in cans.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, where would you go?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
People go to Paradise, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
We never really did any destination holidays. That was kind
of in the year that was we come to Melbourne
for ballet and all those kinds of things. So I
think that was the time that we could just really
settle it at home.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
So coke zero, I wasn't allowed it. No, No, that's right,
and you shouldn't. We shouldn't have it today. Yeah, No,
it's not good for you, is it? Loggy? No?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I drove to the shops on holidays to get frozen cokes.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Which holidays? School holidays?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
You drove road by bar back in preschool. I took
the yo, Yeah, I rode. Yeah, too much sugar.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That is holidays. That's part. I think that's part of
the rules. Got to go out there. Do you go
out the window a bit for holidays?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Absolutely? They probably still do. Like I feel like I've
always been super strict on routine. I'm obsessed with it.
But on the holidays it's okay.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, So you allow yourself, yeah, to have a bit
of a bit of leniency and leeway on holiday.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Definitely, I think it makes me a better person and
makes the routine better.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I look forward to seeing you after that, But it
really is it is those moments with families that you
do remember and kind of We've been to Disneyland, we've
done all that. But I imagine when we talk to
Ash when he's older, that's not what he will remember
about his holidays growing up. A be the little things
(12:32):
that we've done together, the hamburger, the milk bar at
the beach, those kind of things that you remember and
you kind of hold onto my core.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Every summer holidays, around Christmas time, Dad would throw the
ball as we jumped into the ball to catch it.
It is the best game. It is just the best.
We said about Christmas tree just a few weeks ago
or a week ago, and I feel like just putting
up Christmas decorations reminded me of my care childhood and
(13:01):
that Christmas tree and then summer and then that pool game.
It was just the best.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah. See that's beautiful. That's all you need.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Christmas decorations, a pool and a ball. That's summer holidays.
Thank you, ev, thank you serve you right for walking
past said door. You wont do that again. Thanks for joining,
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Well we have sobbed in sa Hi EV left the room,
so Hi came in. Hello, Hi, get a hi.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Hi. You like Ev. You're wearing full yellow.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Today, Yes, in the full glas.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
We're a bit underdone, locky, I know, but we are
talking about school holidays and school holiday memories and what
you recall when you were younger about school holidays, what
you loved, what you didn't love, those kind of things.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Well, mine was not that long ago, like mine was
only a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Carry on well in recall. I think when I was little,
my mum always emphasizes that I got bored really easily.
So she had to have a million stations and things
to do in the schoolidays. So did go to a
lot of zoos, a lot of museums, a lot of
different workshops and stuff. When I was little, like going
Mum would plan out a whole holiday thing because I
(14:13):
needed to be occupied. Yeah, okay, but I think as
I got older, I then just started doing a lot
of dance workshops in my holidays.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
See that would be a thing wouldn't it, Like you
regular dance classes would have holiday breaks too, but then
you'd fill those with holiday dance class Yes.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Like with workshops conventions. I think I kind of ended
up doing a lot of dance training in my holidays,
and then that would be like the two week holidays
like the school holidays, but then this big like Christmas
break would just be spending time at home and like relaxing,
fully relaxing. No dancing. Those felt really weird, not like
to do that. But my brother would have, Like if
(14:52):
I wasn't dancing, my brother would have like sports clinics,
So I just go along to those.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, okay, but you kind of filled your holidays with clinics.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
With clinics classes.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
This is the days before the Bargo Beach.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
This is exactly. This is days before the Bargo Beach.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
A Bargo Beach. The highest family put in a pool.
Recently we've called it the Bargo.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Beach exactly, and it's very popular now, very popular. So
I think that's now. This next Christmas break is just
going to be if the weather is nice out in
the sun, having a barbie in the Bargo Beach, in
the Bargo Beach.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And the beauty about the Bargo beach is no sand exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
You know, I'm not getting in between the toes, not
you know, in the tower.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Please forgive me for saying you're not You're not a swimmer.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
No, I can't.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So did you go swimming when you were younger? Did
you ever go to the beaches? Did you do all that?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
As my parents tried again, I live in Bargo, so
we're not really near any beaches except now I am.
Now now however, I'm a beach local. It's in my backyard,
backyard beach.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Always.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I did a lot of swimming lessons, my mom put,
I mean, so many swimming classes, right, because you know
it's safe for children to be able to swim. I
did it up until, like I'm gonna say, maybe you four.
I used to do those like swimming. It was called
swimming schemes like in school, and they would try to
get schemes.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And schemes exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
She she's busy, she was busy.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
From day one. I still sucked at swimming. My I
did one swimming like a swimming school like competition they'd
have like the fate, and I'd always not do it.
But this one year I was like, I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna commit to trying to do a swimming what
is it like a race? Swimming race? And I like
bailed like halfway during the swimm race. It was like
(16:38):
fifty meters and the lifeguard had to pull me out
and Mum was like, Mom was giggling. She was like,
I'm proudly tried. And the lifeguard when I left was like,
I've never seen someone kick so hard and get absolutely
So I did try. I went to the beach. But
I'm definitely like the person who likes to play in
the water relaxed, but like not swim so that'd.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Be a holiday name just splashing about.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, splashing about in the water, not actually getting anywhere.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
And Lucky likes to ask all our guests about sugar
intake on holidays.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yes, do you remember eving to sugar?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I think that still happens now, yeah, I do. I
do have a funny story when I was little, because
if anyone knows me, I I'm not anywhere without bag
of lollies or chocolates.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I know that's bad, but it's just.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You also have some fruit.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I do have fruit.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I like little crackers and things I do.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I do.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I like having my snack bag. But I do have
a funny story of when I was little, actually in
the in the holidays, Yes, in the holidays and sugar related.
We came back from it could have been the zoo,
it could have been city to surf one of those.
I was like two au three out in the city,
not close to home. That's all I remember. But this
(17:52):
is like my earliest memory as a kid that I
actually fully remember is we got home. Mom and Dad
like shut the door. I was in the pram and
then literally I think, went to put their bags down
so they could get me out of the pram. They
were gone for maybe like a minute and a half,
and I'd found the Allen's like family pack and shoved
everything in my mouth, all of the lollies, and Mum
and Dad came back and they're like so hi, like
(18:14):
they saw the rappers on the floor, like did you
eat my lollies? And they have a video of at
me go my mouth closed. I'm shaking my head and
I'm pretty sure that's where my sugar addiction started.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And that's a happy holiday.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And that is a happy holiday, happy.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Holiday moment for so high.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
It's impressive. You got them other rappers. This is not
like the party.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
It is the party mix, but like it was like
the party mix opened all over the floor. And I
still tend to love my lollies. I think that's my
it's my main food intake.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So has all started from the holidays?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
All started from holidays?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Exactly? Doesn't question accident? So maybe yeah, Now, well, look, holidays,
they are a wonderful When you're a kid and you
have that holiday moment, there's nothing better. And then I
remember that feeling of when school starts up again, that
kind of that sort of dread, the dread, the dread.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
It was the dread. It was knowing that, like you're
not going to relax and sleep in.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And no more and no more short backs to bed
on time, back to routine.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Back to routine.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It's all over.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
It's all over, back to school, it's all over.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well, we hope you have a wonderful, happy holiday. Yes,
I'm sure there will be some sugar. Oh there'll be
with some good healthy eating like I've seen you do too, exactly,
and enjoy the Bargo beach.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Will I'll be enjoying the Bargo Beach.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Thanks for coming on. We will talk to Hime.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Well that is all for today. Thank you AJ. If
you've got a question, send us a voice note at
the Wiggles dot com for SASH podcast, or drop us
an email at podcast at the wiggles dot com dot A.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
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and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
See you around like a Rissole.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Thank you,
The Wiggles acknowledged the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia
and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay
our respects to elders, past, present and emerging.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome to Wiggle Talk Lockey. It's a podcast for parents.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
It sure is Simon and Hello, my name is Lachlan
gi Lesbie.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello. Sorry, carry on.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I was about to say what I always say, Purple Wiggle.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes, my name is Simon p u Rice, Yes with
a y because I said so, Yes, and I am
the red Wiggle. Yes, great to see you, lock you too.
We moved house recently, Yes, yes, we're loving it. But
what we realized is we're in such a great routine
with Asher in our old place. Yes, we had our
(00:52):
places to go. We go down to the skate park.
He was on his bike a lot, doing all kinds
of different activities. And when we moved, of course, all
that routine changes and Loz and I were like, he's
hardly ridden his bike at all. Yeah, we thankfully and
luckily you have a pool now so that takes up
(01:12):
a lot of his time. He loves swimming, so which
is part of the reason why we wanted to move.
But because he loves the water so much. But then
we realized all those other activities we were doing, we
just kind of canceled because we were so busy and
invested in moving into the house setting it up that
we kind of misjudged what that meant for him. Now
(01:33):
he wasn't saying anything about it, and he was swimming though.
That was a big part of the change. But it's
been nice to introduce back in him going for a
ride in his bike, us finding the local oval now
and we take the creek about the ball, the AFL
footy ball, and were actually starting to get that nice
(01:53):
little routine happening, which has been really good. But you
move on, maybe we do. That's who we are as
people move on so quickly. It's quite interesting. Yeah, And
I know we have spoken to some experts and psychologists
in the past with regards to if there's a trauma
that happens that that consistency of routine, Yes, is a
really important thing to continue on with, Yeah, because it
(02:16):
creates that normality that this is way more extreme me
saying this in this situation we're in, but it did
remind me of that to think, Okay, he's just literally
in the last two years, move house twice. You know,
there's lots of change, and it's important to keep that
sort of consistent routine for him and introduce new things
which he was enjoying. But so anyway, that's a little
(02:38):
bit of a rant on my.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
No, but that that's kind of Italian because we're talking
about holidays today. But that is children are so adaptable
and ash, I won't think back to that time and go, oh,
I'm miss.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Riding my bike for those No no, no, that's.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Because you'll get back to the cool new house he
moved into and the pool, all those memories and then,
like you said, you've just found again the the bike
and the other things in a different area or a
different setting. But it does tie nicely.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Simon, Oh well, I had no idea. That's deer Wiggle time.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yes, and your questions, your dilemmas.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
We're here from will try and we will, we will
do our best. Wigle talk, talk Talk, Wigle Talk.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It's Dear Wiggles.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Authorized by Simon Luckie.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
This one's a good eat. It's uh deer Wiggles. School
holidays have destroyed our routine late nights, early mornings. Sugar cousins,
cousins excitement, how do we keep kids steady when everything
is upside down for a few weeks? And that's from
AG good one.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Ag.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Holidays are great times, aren't they. And our wonderful producer Madeline,
when we're talking about this before, said which I hadn't
really thought about, but if you think back to being
a child, I remember going camping for years. That was
our first big family holidays.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I remember going to the lolly shop and we definitely
probably ate too much sugar. I don't know what time
we went to bed, but you don't any of those
no important parent facts. We might have been really tired,
but we saw kids we didn't see other times of
the year, and we went to the beach and we
had such a great time. We got to sleep in
the tent with our parents in the tent. Like there
were so many great positive things that happened on holidays.
(04:16):
Cousins is another big one, like a lot of kids. Yeah,
we never saw our cousins apart.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
From the hold times.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Afterwards, You're like, far right, it's great seeing our cousin.
We have so much connection. And then it goes back
to the school term and you just never see them
and never talk to them. So it's there's so many
positive so important thing to remember as a parent, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I think crse things out, but it does,
and to cut yourself a little bit of slack because
the whole thing changes. I was thinking about this today
because the Ashes is going to go to school and
school holidays and how difficult is for parents with both
parents working to navigate all that. That's really really really challenging,
and so of course things are going to be thrown
(04:56):
out and change because you have to. I think it's
a nice thing for children to have that change. Like
we're talking about earlier, I'm reminded to Ashes always traveled
with us a lot of the time, and so he
adapts really well to that sort of change, and he
has actually really comfortable in hotels. The last hotel rout
when we're on tour, he was like, can we stay
(05:17):
here for a week? You know, he gets excited about
it because there's some comfort in it. And I think
that kind of change that can happen is actually really
exciting for children. And I think as parents we can
get stuck in to make sure we can keep that
routine and keep. But in actual fact, like you were saying,
your experiences, what you recall and what you remember from
those holidays were just the fun times you were having,
(05:41):
not about whether you went to bed late, not about
any of those things at all, just that you were
having a great time on holidays with cousins or with
an extra ice cream and you would normally not have. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And I was thinking too with I've got a steps
on AJ and that that changes too. So there's a
whole side of that where we will get him back
after him spending some great time with his dad. It's different,
and it's not bad, but it's different. And then of
course you bounce back into routine. You set the eating
back up and the sleep back up, and it always
falls back in, but the routine will always be there.
And that's the great thing about a routine is you
(06:13):
know you'll jump straight back in. It might take a bit,
but then you see the results of having a great routine.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
The communication is kind of really important with this, and
I think we can talk to children. We can communicate
with them sometimes more than we feel that we can.
You can actually quite openly say to them we're going
to be doing things a little bit differently. The routine's
a bit out the window. We're going to get some lunch,
but it's going to be a bit later today. Because
of this, we might get to bed a bit later.
You can actually just talk through what the changes might
(06:40):
be for them to understand and then knowing for you, okay, well,
if this happens, there's a knock on effect which means
you won't get a bed later, which means then you
as a pairent, are prepared for that change of routine
as well. Like the other day we drove to Newcastle.
Asha Fellas, who's always going to was a two and
a half hour drive from Sydney, as she was going
(07:00):
to fall asleep in the car. He always falls asleep
in the car and a long drive regardless of what
time it is, and so we knew that in doing
that then that would put our routine out totally. And
in the past I think we've fall into the trap
of still trying to get him to bed at seven
thirty because at his bedtime, but he had an hour
and a half sleep in the middle of the day,
(07:21):
which he never has, so he's going to be up
till ten. That's just what's going to happen? And so
Lotz and I talked about it. We said, Okay, we'll
be up later tonight with Asher and we got our
heads around it. Then we didn't try to force something
on ashe or that he wasn't ready for, which meant
that it just would have been this conflict saying I'm
not tired, I'm not ready for bed. So we kind
of managed and negotiated that situation this time way better
(07:43):
than we have in the past because we understood what
was to come. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, And I'm just thinking back now to the holidays
where you had and we took a PlayStation or whatever
it was back then up to the coast each year.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
When we Donkey Kong, Yeah, Donkey Kong.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It was creaking and something else. But I probably played
too much screens in those those few weeks, but g
it was fun and that's a great memory I have.
And we still had lots of beach time and family
time and fish and chips, but it was you make
so many memories as children on holidays.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
My grandparents had a little holiday house at a Voca beach,
Central Coast outside of Sydney. They are my fondest memories
of school holidays. We'd probably go for a week at
a time, and then my cousins would come to and
we'd all kind of hang out there together. We'd all
do it as a little family holiday, and they were
such great times. And I don't remember anything about routines.
(08:34):
I don't remember it. I just remember being together as
a family. And the little milk bar at the beach
when they make that milk bar Hamburgers, oh yeah, you know,
and they had that space Invader machine at the front.
You know, just all those little things you remember, you know,
sand in your pants.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But isn't that the point You're a very young, fifty
year old gentleman, But those are the memories.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That you hold onto. You still remember those things that
happened so long ago.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
But that's what stays with you for your entire life,
those those little memories that are so random and look
so little, but so special. They were so simple and
so meaningful.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Now there's a few Wiggles hanging around the studio today. Yeah,
do you want to get a couple of them in
to talk about their summer holidays?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yep, aj You've you've started something.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, that's right. I'm looking forward to summer holidays. I
can't wait it soon. Hello.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Hello, right, well we've got our first guest in. She's
wearing her outfit.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Hello. You brought some colors to the pod.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Absolutely, great to see you, EVI great.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
To see you.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, you're read.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
If you want question, you regret walking past the door now,
don't you know?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, yes, it's great to have you here.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, we're talking about holidays, school holidays and routines. Now,
first of all, do you have any memories that you'd
like to share about your holidays when you were little,
and did you remember being tired or having too much
sugar or things like that.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Did you remember that too? Glad you came in.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, this is the best, not specifically the sugar.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
No, I remember loving school holidays and it was it
felt like such a big deal, almost like wrapping up.
I'm thinking back to primary school and I still lived
in cans as well.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
That's a good holiday destination.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It is summertime all year, it's swimming in the pool,
being with the family Christmas and it was the most
time I probably got to spend with my family.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Did you ever go away for school holidays or you
all planted yourself in cans and had your holidays at home.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, we mostly just planted in cans.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, where would you go?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
People go to Paradise, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
We never really did any destination holidays. That was kind
of in the year that was we come to Melbourne
for ballet and all those kinds of things. So I
think that was the time that we could just really
settle it at home.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
So coke zero, I wasn't allowed it. No, No, that's right,
and you shouldn't. We shouldn't have it today. Yeah, No,
it's not good for you, is it? Loggy? No?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I drove to the shops on holidays to get frozen cokes.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Which holidays? School holidays?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
You drove road by bar back in preschool. I took
the yo, Yeah, I rode. Yeah, too much sugar.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That is holidays. That's part. I think that's part of
the rules. Got to go out there. Do you go
out the window a bit for holidays?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Absolutely? They probably still do. Like I feel like I've
always been super strict on routine. I'm obsessed with it.
But on the holidays it's okay.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, So you allow yourself, yeah, to have a bit
of a bit of leniency and leeway on holiday.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Definitely, I think it makes me a better person and
makes the routine better.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I look forward to seeing you after that, But it
really is it is those moments with families that you
do remember and kind of We've been to Disneyland, we've
done all that. But I imagine when we talk to
Ash when he's older, that's not what he will remember
about his holidays growing up. A be the little things
(12:32):
that we've done together, the hamburger, the milk bar at
the beach, those kind of things that you remember and
you kind of hold onto my core.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Every summer holidays, around Christmas time, Dad would throw the
ball as we jumped into the ball to catch it.
It is the best game. It is just the best.
We said about Christmas tree just a few weeks ago
or a week ago, and I feel like just putting
up Christmas decorations reminded me of my care childhood and
(13:01):
that Christmas tree and then summer and then that pool game.
It was just the best.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah. See that's beautiful. That's all you need.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Christmas decorations, a pool and a ball. That's summer holidays.
Thank you, ev, thank you serve you right for walking
past said door. You wont do that again. Thanks for joining,
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Well we have sobbed in sa Hi EV left the room,
so Hi came in. Hello, Hi, get a hi.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Hi. You like Ev. You're wearing full yellow.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Today, Yes, in the full glas.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
We're a bit underdone, locky, I know, but we are
talking about school holidays and school holiday memories and what
you recall when you were younger about school holidays, what
you loved, what you didn't love, those kind of things.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Well, mine was not that long ago, like mine was
only a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
But okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Carry on well in recall. I think when I was little,
my mum always emphasizes that I got bored really easily.
So she had to have a million stations and things
to do in the schoolidays. So did go to a
lot of zoos, a lot of museums, a lot of
different workshops and stuff. When I was little, like going
Mum would plan out a whole holiday thing because I
(14:13):
needed to be occupied. Yeah, okay, but I think as
I got older, I then just started doing a lot
of dance workshops in my holidays.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
See that would be a thing wouldn't it, Like you
regular dance classes would have holiday breaks too, but then
you'd fill those with holiday dance class Yes.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Like with workshops conventions. I think I kind of ended
up doing a lot of dance training in my holidays,
and then that would be like the two week holidays
like the school holidays, but then this big like Christmas
break would just be spending time at home and like relaxing,
fully relaxing. No dancing. Those felt really weird, not like
to do that. But my brother would have, Like if
(14:52):
I wasn't dancing, my brother would have like sports clinics,
So I just go along to those.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, okay, but you kind of filled your holidays with clinics.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
With clinics classes.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
This is the days before the Bargo Beach.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
This is exactly. This is days before the Bargo Beach.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
A Bargo Beach. The highest family put in a pool.
Recently we've called it the Bargo.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Beach exactly, and it's very popular now, very popular. So
I think that's now. This next Christmas break is just
going to be if the weather is nice out in
the sun, having a barbie in the Bargo Beach, in
the Bargo Beach.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And the beauty about the Bargo beach is no sand exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
You know, I'm not getting in between the toes, not
you know, in the tower.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Please forgive me for saying you're not You're not a swimmer.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
No, I can't.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So did you go swimming when you were younger? Did
you ever go to the beaches? Did you do all that?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
As my parents tried again, I live in Bargo, so
we're not really near any beaches except now I am.
Now now however, I'm a beach local. It's in my backyard,
backyard beach.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Always.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I did a lot of swimming lessons, my mom put,
I mean, so many swimming classes, right, because you know
it's safe for children to be able to swim. I
did it up until, like I'm gonna say, maybe you four.
I used to do those like swimming. It was called
swimming schemes like in school, and they would try to
get schemes.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And schemes exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
She she's busy, she was busy.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
From day one. I still sucked at swimming. My I
did one swimming like a swimming school like competition they'd
have like the fate, and I'd always not do it.
But this one year I was like, I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna commit to trying to do a swimming what
is it like a race? Swimming race? And I like
bailed like halfway during the swimm race. It was like
(16:38):
fifty meters and the lifeguard had to pull me out
and Mum was like, Mom was giggling. She was like,
I'm proudly tried. And the lifeguard when I left was like,
I've never seen someone kick so hard and get absolutely
So I did try. I went to the beach. But
I'm definitely like the person who likes to play in
the water relaxed, but like not swim so that'd.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Be a holiday name just splashing about.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, splashing about in the water, not actually getting anywhere.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
And Lucky likes to ask all our guests about sugar
intake on holidays.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yes, do you remember eving to sugar?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I think that still happens now, yeah, I do. I
do have a funny story when I was little, because
if anyone knows me, I I'm not anywhere without bag
of lollies or chocolates.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I know that's bad, but it's just.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You also have some fruit.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I do have fruit.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I like little crackers and things I do.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I do.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I like having my snack bag. But I do have
a funny story of when I was little, actually in
the in the holidays, Yes, in the holidays and sugar related.
We came back from it could have been the zoo,
it could have been city to surf one of those.
I was like two au three out in the city,
not close to home. That's all I remember. But this
(17:52):
is like my earliest memory as a kid that I
actually fully remember is we got home. Mom and Dad
like shut the door. I was in the pram and
then literally I think, went to put their bags down
so they could get me out of the pram. They
were gone for maybe like a minute and a half,
and I'd found the Allen's like family pack and shoved
everything in my mouth, all of the lollies, and Mum
and Dad came back and they're like so hi, like
(18:14):
they saw the rappers on the floor, like did you
eat my lollies? And they have a video of at
me go my mouth closed. I'm shaking my head and
I'm pretty sure that's where my sugar addiction started.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And that's a happy holiday.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And that is a happy holiday, happy.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Holiday moment for so high.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
It's impressive. You got them other rappers. This is not
like the party.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
It is the party mix, but like it was like
the party mix opened all over the floor. And I
still tend to love my lollies. I think that's my
it's my main food intake.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So has all started from the holidays?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
All started from holidays?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Exactly? Doesn't question accident? So maybe yeah, Now, well, look, holidays,
they are a wonderful When you're a kid and you
have that holiday moment, there's nothing better. And then I
remember that feeling of when school starts up again, that
kind of that sort of dread, the dread, the dread.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
It was the dread. It was knowing that, like you're
not going to relax and sleep in.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And no more and no more short backs to bed
on time, back to routine.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Back to routine.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It's all over.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
It's all over, back to school, it's all over.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well, we hope you have a wonderful, happy holiday. Yes,
I'm sure there will be some sugar. Oh there'll be
with some good healthy eating like I've seen you do too, exactly,
and enjoy the Bargo beach.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Will I'll be enjoying the Bargo Beach.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Thanks for coming on. We will talk to Hime.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Well that is all for today. Thank you AJ. If
you've got a question, send us a voice note at
the Wiggles dot com for SASH podcast, or drop us
an email at podcast at the wiggles dot com dot A.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You and if wiill Talk has been keeping you company,
a quick rating or review helps other parents find the
show too. Thanks for listening. We love that you're listening
and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
See you around like a Rissole.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Thank you,
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