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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My Heart podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free I had a.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Dean erupting in Los Angeles, downtown Los Angeles. If you
missed the audio before, there are a bunch of people
that gathered downtown Los Angeles outside the Metropolitan Detention Center
to oppose the immigration laws that Trump is imposing. And look,
just to give you an idea and why this is
affecting Australia so much, Lauren Tomrci, who was covering the
event four Channel nine, was shot by a rubber bullet
(00:39):
by the LAPD. Have a listen to this if you
haven't already, the.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
LAPD moving in on horseback, firing rubber bullets at protesters,
moving them on through the heart of lat.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I haven't seen that footage as well, Like she is okay,
by the way, really want to stress that she is okay.
But if you see the footage, naturally, when I first
saw the headline, it was like, oh, so she's been
caught in the crossfire. It's a horrible accident. It's not
you see someone behind her aim and shoot her in
the league.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, And there's a lot of people are saying online,
you know, that's a person who's got a camera on them,
clearly reporting for the news. I mean the reporter should
be immune image what they're doing to everybody else. There's
footage of protest is getting stamped by the LAPD on horseback.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
So look.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Miley Hogan from seven News, their USA correspondent, joins us
right now on Will and Woody. Miley, I saw you
on TV with a helmet seconds ago. Are you okay?
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yes? Yeah, Look I am okay. We do where a
ppe when we feel it's appropriate, and we just try
to assess the situation as much as we can and
hope that our training will kick in and we can
keep as safe as possible. Look, I will say sometimes
things happen when you're on the field, when you're reporting
on stories like Viswatan, sometimes things do happen. And unfortunately
(02:04):
for Lauren, that was an awful, distressing situation. And I
think we've all seen the footage and we can see
what happened there. I don't think there's much she could
have done really to avoid that.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Is it scary though, mother, because I mean is what
he just pointed out. I mean, yeah, there's not much
that you might have done if you according a crossfire. Sure,
we'd all kind of look at that and go that
was hectic. But as you said, we've all said in
the footage, she clearly takes aim at her and shoots her.
Is this this is a different sort of conflict that
we're seeing here. I mean, for anyone who's seen the
Alix Galan movie Civil War, there's a lot of that
(02:34):
about this for me right now, And I'm just you know,
if the press are getting targeted, how close is this
to unfolding into something a bit more hectic? Do you think?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Well?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I think as a journalist, you never want to see
the press getting targeted. It's important for journalists to be
able to be close up to these situations so we
can get a good understanding of what's actually happening on
the ground and then report it back. So the last
thing you want to do or see is journalists being
intimidated or frightened from doing their job. We want to
(03:08):
be able to be in there and get it done.
It's so important. I do believe that there'll be an
investigation into what happened to my friend in the wonderful
port Lauren to Marcy, So hopefully we'll get to Marsters there.
I haven't experienced that myself on the ground, so I
will say I mean there's been times where rubber bullets
has been definitely shot in the direction of where we
(03:31):
may be, or we'll see them getting shot at protesters.
Is it is always a bit hectic, to say the
least on the ground at times?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Hey, Milly, is this one of those situations where obviously
everything we're seeing on TV and through media, it looks
really hectic. To be honest, it kind of looks like
the kind of thing where there's no way I would
feel safe going to Los Angeles right now, Like if
I had a holiday book for tomorrow, I would be
canceling that trip one hundred percent. Is it actually that
hectic or are there just sort of small portions of
(04:02):
LA where it is really scary.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
If you've ever been to Los Angeles, you'll understand it's
a city that is ball It's absolutely massive, and these
protests are concentrated in the downtown area. It really is
concentrated to i'd say a four block radius in the
downtown area. If you were coming as a tourist, I
wouldn't be recommending going down to downtown Los Angeles at
(04:26):
this time. But you could go across to Santa Monica,
Venice West Hollywood and you'd see a thriving Los Angeles
getting on with their life. This really is concentrated in
the downtown area.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Are you afraid though? Because I mean Miley, the last
time the National Guard was sent out it was in
nineteen sixty five to try and aid protesters in a
silent protest. And you know, I know the governor of
California has said, you know, well, first of all, Trump
has endorsed his arrest, and then he's come out and said,
come and arrest me, big guy. And now Trump has
(05:01):
said literally used the words big guy. Ironically, how American
is that? And then he's now I know that Trump
is sending a over hundreds, if not thousands of Marines
and more National Guards. So whilst this is concentrated and
sure in a downtown area, surely there's a part of
you that feels as if you know, this is potentially
(05:22):
the spark that kicks off a powder keg of violence.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I think it will be interesting to see what does
happen when the Marines arriving downtown Los Angeles. To be
very honest with you, it hasn't been very It hasn't
been made clear what the Marines will be doing when
they get here. There's been no clear communication to the media,
to the public. Are they going to be on the streets.
We're going to see marine marine on the streets doing
(05:51):
crowd control. These are soldiers that have been trained to
fight foreign wars. Are we going to see people with
that level of training dealing with their own citizens who
are protesting. I mean, that would be an extraordinary exhalation,
and it would be an extraordinary show of for so
how far Donald Trump is willing to go to use
(06:12):
the military to intimidate American citizens and also to patrol
these It really would be an extraordinary escalation. If the
Marines were on the streets here will be fascinating and
very unprecedented to watch.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Really well, he said they're going over there to restore order,
is what he said. And you know, as Newsom has
said that the governor of California that they shouldn't be deployed.
They shouldn't be deploying American soldiers on American soil, facing
their own countrymen to fulfill the deranged fantasy of a
dictatorial president, which I think is really what this is,
(06:52):
which I mean, this scares me, Miley. I don't think
i've ever particularly in America. I mean, we see this
in Europe. We see we see presidents and autocrats deploying
the military to put down rebellions and cups all over
the world, and that is often the beginning of the end.
So the fact that president of the United States is
doing this in his own country, in Los Angeles, that
(07:15):
scares me. And I just yeah, the fact they're shooting
the press, that's I hope you're doing all right.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I'm yeah, thank you, thank you. I mean, it is
definitely an interesting time to be a journalist in the
United States.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, right, Okay, good luck, Miley. It's midnight in LA
right now, so hopefully you can get some sleep safely,
and we're just hoping here that it calms down.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Absolutely, thank you, Thank you so much, Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
For joining us. Smiley Hogan their seven years USA correspondent,
keeping subrested of what is going on in Los Angeles.
That scary stuff. Look, it might be controlled, it seems
like it is in downtown LA, but like he's just
there's I know, there's more protest planned for across the country.
In the next coming days. So America showing on paper
now that you know, ideologically it has been the most polarizing,
cut or polarized country in the world. We saw that
(08:07):
the elections, and now we might actually be seeing that. Yeah,
as I said, in flesh, which is just really scary
thought I reckon
My Heart podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free I had a.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Dean erupting in Los Angeles, downtown Los Angeles. If you
missed the audio before, there are a bunch of people
that gathered downtown Los Angeles outside the Metropolitan Detention Center
to oppose the immigration laws that Trump is imposing. And look,
just to give you an idea and why this is
affecting Australia so much, Lauren Tomrci, who was covering the
event four Channel nine, was shot by a rubber bullet
(00:39):
by the LAPD. Have a listen to this if you
haven't already, the.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
LAPD moving in on horseback, firing rubber bullets at protesters,
moving them on through the heart of lat.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I haven't seen that footage as well, Like she is okay,
by the way, really want to stress that she is okay.
But if you see the footage, naturally, when I first
saw the headline, it was like, oh, so she's been
caught in the crossfire. It's a horrible accident. It's not
you see someone behind her aim and shoot her in
the league.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, And there's a lot of people are saying online,
you know, that's a person who's got a camera on them,
clearly reporting for the news. I mean the reporter should
be immune image what they're doing to everybody else. There's
footage of protest is getting stamped by the LAPD on horseback.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
So look.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Miley Hogan from seven News, their USA correspondent, joins us
right now on Will and Woody. Miley, I saw you
on TV with a helmet seconds ago. Are you okay?
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yes? Yeah, Look I am okay. We do where a
ppe when we feel it's appropriate, and we just try
to assess the situation as much as we can and
hope that our training will kick in and we can
keep as safe as possible. Look, I will say sometimes
things happen when you're on the field, when you're reporting
on stories like Viswatan, sometimes things do happen. And unfortunately
(02:04):
for Lauren, that was an awful, distressing situation. And I
think we've all seen the footage and we can see
what happened there. I don't think there's much she could
have done really to avoid that.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Is it scary though, mother, because I mean is what
he just pointed out. I mean, yeah, there's not much
that you might have done if you according a crossfire. Sure,
we'd all kind of look at that and go that
was hectic. But as you said, we've all said in
the footage, she clearly takes aim at her and shoots her.
Is this this is a different sort of conflict that
we're seeing here. I mean, for anyone who's seen the
Alix Galan movie Civil War, there's a lot of that
(02:34):
about this for me right now, And I'm just you know,
if the press are getting targeted, how close is this
to unfolding into something a bit more hectic? Do you think?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Well?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I think as a journalist, you never want to see
the press getting targeted. It's important for journalists to be
able to be close up to these situations so we
can get a good understanding of what's actually happening on
the ground and then report it back. So the last
thing you want to do or see is journalists being
intimidated or frightened from doing their job. We want to
(03:08):
be able to be in there and get it done.
It's so important. I do believe that there'll be an
investigation into what happened to my friend in the wonderful
port Lauren to Marcy, So hopefully we'll get to Marsters there.
I haven't experienced that myself on the ground, so I
will say I mean there's been times where rubber bullets
has been definitely shot in the direction of where we
(03:31):
may be, or we'll see them getting shot at protesters.
Is it is always a bit hectic, to say the
least on the ground at times?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Hey, Milly, is this one of those situations where obviously
everything we're seeing on TV and through media, it looks
really hectic. To be honest, it kind of looks like
the kind of thing where there's no way I would
feel safe going to Los Angeles right now, Like if
I had a holiday book for tomorrow, I would be
canceling that trip one hundred percent. Is it actually that
hectic or are there just sort of small portions of
(04:02):
LA where it is really scary.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
If you've ever been to Los Angeles, you'll understand it's
a city that is ball It's absolutely massive, and these
protests are concentrated in the downtown area. It really is
concentrated to i'd say a four block radius in the
downtown area. If you were coming as a tourist, I
wouldn't be recommending going down to downtown Los Angeles at
(04:26):
this time. But you could go across to Santa Monica,
Venice West Hollywood and you'd see a thriving Los Angeles
getting on with their life. This really is concentrated in
the downtown area.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Are you afraid though? Because I mean Miley, the last
time the National Guard was sent out it was in
nineteen sixty five to try and aid protesters in a
silent protest. And you know, I know the governor of
California has said, you know, well, first of all, Trump
has endorsed his arrest, and then he's come out and said,
come and arrest me, big guy. And now Trump has
(05:01):
said literally used the words big guy. Ironically, how American
is that? And then he's now I know that Trump
is sending a over hundreds, if not thousands of Marines
and more National Guards. So whilst this is concentrated and
sure in a downtown area, surely there's a part of
you that feels as if you know, this is potentially
(05:22):
the spark that kicks off a powder keg of violence.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I think it will be interesting to see what does
happen when the Marines arriving downtown Los Angeles. To be
very honest with you, it hasn't been very It hasn't
been made clear what the Marines will be doing when
they get here. There's been no clear communication to the media,
to the public. Are they going to be on the streets.
We're going to see marine marine on the streets doing
(05:51):
crowd control. These are soldiers that have been trained to
fight foreign wars. Are we going to see people with
that level of training dealing with their own citizens who
are protesting. I mean, that would be an extraordinary exhalation,
and it would be an extraordinary show of for so
how far Donald Trump is willing to go to use
(06:12):
the military to intimidate American citizens and also to patrol
these It really would be an extraordinary escalation. If the
Marines were on the streets here will be fascinating and
very unprecedented to watch.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Really well, he said they're going over there to restore order,
is what he said. And you know, as Newsom has
said that the governor of California that they shouldn't be deployed.
They shouldn't be deploying American soldiers on American soil, facing
their own countrymen to fulfill the deranged fantasy of a
dictatorial president, which I think is really what this is,
(06:52):
which I mean, this scares me, Miley. I don't think
i've ever particularly in America. I mean, we see this
in Europe. We see we see presidents and autocrats deploying
the military to put down rebellions and cups all over
the world, and that is often the beginning of the end.
So the fact that president of the United States is
doing this in his own country, in Los Angeles, that
(07:15):
scares me. And I just yeah, the fact they're shooting
the press, that's I hope you're doing all right.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I'm yeah, thank you, thank you. I mean, it is
definitely an interesting time to be a journalist in the
United States.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, right, Okay, good luck, Miley. It's midnight in LA
right now, so hopefully you can get some sleep safely,
and we're just hoping here that it calms down.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Absolutely, thank you, Thank you so much, Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
For joining us. Smiley Hogan their seven years USA correspondent,
keeping subrested of what is going on in Los Angeles.
That scary stuff. Look, it might be controlled, it seems
like it is in downtown LA, but like he's just
there's I know, there's more protest planned for across the country.
In the next coming days. So America showing on paper
now that you know, ideologically it has been the most polarizing,
cut or polarized country in the world. We saw that
(08:07):
the elections, and now we might actually be seeing that. Yeah,
as I said, in flesh, which is just really scary
thought I reckon
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