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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My herd podcasts, hear more kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free Hard.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Right now though, Justin Bieber, Yeah, he really has been
in the headline for all the wrong reasons recently.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Even I'm across this.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm not across the bee, but he's made it on
a couple of Reddit threads that I follow recently.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
What's reddit saying about the bar?
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Just some pretty cook stuff of him at Coachella and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
He had a big spat with paparazzi's as well.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah about that, Yeah about that? Yeah, not doing himself
many favors.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
He has posted here a text message exchange with him
and a friend.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Hasn't identified the friend though.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
No, no, no, no, So he's written here so the guy.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
I'll try and read.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Out the bits of the very important because it does
tend to go on. The guy basically complains that Justin
Bieber lashed out at him, right yep. Bieber then says
the friendship's over. I'll never accept a man calling my
anger lashing out. I enjoyed our short lived friendship, but
I wasn't kidding when I told you I didn't need
you as a friend. Yeah, goes on he says, I
(01:16):
will never suppress my emotions for someone. Conflict is a
part of a relationship.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, yeah, I mean, I hate to say it, but
I do agree with.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The bear there's some wisdom within all this other I'm
not sure if you just got chut gpt to blurt
that out for him, but I think he's right. I actually,
I actually do think he's right. There he goes under
call him a pussy and you know, ends up ruining it.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
But I do.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I do want to talk quickly about SIDEA about suppressing
your emotions. I will never suppress my emotions for someone.
And because you know this, Sem and I have done
some couples counseling recently in a in a very healthy sense. Actually,
and if you don't you haven't seen a couple's counsel
in relationship. I would highly recommend it. But I feel
like our couple's counseling prolonged recently because I suck at this.
(02:04):
I am a very good emotion suppressor within the relationship.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
As in, so you suppressed your emotions how you are feeling.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, because I don't want to hurt the other person.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yeah, sure, And I'll.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Drag them down with you? Is that is that The
vine blogger is.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Like, look, if you really want to break it down,
I think it's a safety thing. I think you don't
want to ruin the safety of your relationship. You know, particular,
you've been with someone for a while, you're just like,
oh Jesus, if I really let rit with here with
how I'm feeling, then you like, miss, the walls could
come down.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's all about safety, right, So as soon as you
crossed that line with the person that you love, and
it's a person that you've bet everything on at this
stage in your life, but.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
You can get not used to doing it previously.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
It's a really hard thing to do, and I think
a lot of us do it because we're scared about
how we're going to be perceived by the person that
we're with, or even in this beber sense, with our friends,
we do it because we don't want to lose the
friendship of course. And ultimately, what I've found through this
this this counseling that we've done recently is that.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's really bad for you. It's really really bad.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
It's going to come out at some stage.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Exactly exactly and more importantly, if you don't do it
so pray, if you don't let your emotions out, I
end up doing the thing which no one likes, which
is I sulk.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And even if I just do it subtly, sulking is
the worst thing you can do on the planet because and.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Then someone goes that you are right, yep, fine, fine, fine,
like you're good in there?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah good, And and then it's hard.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's like, can we talk about this, talk about what like, Okay,
I'm not going to go there. We'll think we've all
been guilty of sulking. By the way, we're not having
goos of people who sock. I think we all sulk well,
and we all know it sucks. But when you're in
the middle of a sulk, you're controlled by it.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
It's a shocking feeling when you when you're mid sulk.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Children sok.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I did a bit of research on sulking and Elanda
Boton talks about sulking because I was interested in why
I sulk. I'm like, why am I? Why am I sulker?
I hate the fact that I'm sulking? And he said,
because basically, at some stage in your life, you've been
told that your emotions aren't valid. At some stage, you've
had a moment.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's probably a parent when you're young, a parent being like,
be quiet, please be quiet, which is totally naturally if.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
They just don't understand you, they don't try and understand
your emotions. So you learn this thing like, hey, if
I'm letting my emotions rip here, the people that I'm
doing it for won't understand me. And so the reason
that children stay silent when they're sulking is because it's
basically them saying, you don't.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Understand me, right, and if you don't understand me, then
you don't love me.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
That's the correlation. You don't understand me, you don't.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Love me, which is so unfair because you're not telling
the person that you're sulking in front of how to
understand you. So you put this awful burden on your
lover to go normally.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Am I not going to talk to you?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You will have to mind read me to figure out
what my emotions actually are.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And then once you've done that, once you've proved to
me that you will.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Love me, then I will come back to you.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You've got a professor x me.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You've got to get in there for it and figure
out my emotions for me, I'm not going to tell
them to you. So I think there's a very valuablesson
that I learned recent that I wanted to share is
that like, if by not by not sharing your emotions,
by not by suppressing your emotions, you might feel like
you're doing the right thing, because I think that's often
where it comes from me, like, oh, I'm going to
protect you and.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
I'm going to be the bigger guy here and hold
onto my emotions.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You will eventually get to a point where you ruin
your relationship.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Yeah, sounds like you're a bit team Bieber.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I am by me some bebes kean on the big
guy will it's perfect a guy, You're.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Finally a believer a big times And.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It is so much bigger for Beiber as well, because
I feel like he has done that with the public
for his entire life, where he felt like he had
to be a certain.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
He had to be a sweetheart for everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And the world loved him, and has this moment where
he's going, you know what.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I'm not going to be this person for people anymore
because I've done it for so long and I'm sick
of it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's an interesting topic in general, isn't It is like
would we how much would we tolerate child star's behavior
if they weren't child stars previously?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
M It's a very interesting discussion.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I think stinksive tomorrow, does it? Yeah? We don't have
time now?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Oh right, yeah, well I wasn't jesting. We do it now?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Oh sorry, I thought you were, And I was like, bloddy,
hell mate.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
It feels like like a it feels like a through job.
That one. That's a big that's a big.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Big sit down.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I think.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
So I would speak to Louis Docco or something.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
So he's just handball to someone else. There you go.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
If you're a documentary maker, go and do something with
that subject matter.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Beth McGarvey Channel ten, if she's.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
The head of ten, she might pick it up. W
My herd podcasts, hear more kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free Hard.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Right now though, Justin Bieber, Yeah, he really has been
in the headline for all the wrong reasons recently.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Even I'm across this.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm not across the bee, but he's made it on
a couple of Reddit threads that I follow recently.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
What's reddit saying about the bar?
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Just some pretty cook stuff of him at Coachella and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
He had a big spat with paparazzi's as well.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah about that, Yeah about that? Yeah, not doing himself
many favors.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
He has posted here a text message exchange with him
and a friend.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Hasn't identified the friend though.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
No, no, no, no, So he's written here so the guy.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
I'll try and read.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Out the bits of the very important because it does
tend to go on. The guy basically complains that Justin
Bieber lashed out at him, right yep. Bieber then says
the friendship's over. I'll never accept a man calling my
anger lashing out. I enjoyed our short lived friendship, but
I wasn't kidding when I told you I didn't need
you as a friend. Yeah, goes on he says, I
(01:16):
will never suppress my emotions for someone. Conflict is a
part of a relationship.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, yeah, I mean, I hate to say it, but
I do agree with.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The bear there's some wisdom within all this other I'm
not sure if you just got chut gpt to blurt
that out for him, but I think he's right. I actually,
I actually do think he's right. There he goes under
call him a pussy and you know, ends up ruining it.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
But I do.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I do want to talk quickly about SIDEA about suppressing
your emotions. I will never suppress my emotions for someone.
And because you know this, Sem and I have done
some couples counseling recently in a in a very healthy sense. Actually,
and if you don't you haven't seen a couple's counsel
in relationship. I would highly recommend it. But I feel
like our couple's counseling prolonged recently because I suck at this.
(02:04):
I am a very good emotion suppressor within the relationship.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
As in, so you suppressed your emotions how you are feeling.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, because I don't want to hurt the other person.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yeah, sure, And I'll.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Drag them down with you? Is that is that The
vine blogger is.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Like, look, if you really want to break it down,
I think it's a safety thing. I think you don't
want to ruin the safety of your relationship. You know, particular,
you've been with someone for a while, you're just like,
oh Jesus, if I really let rit with here with
how I'm feeling, then you like, miss, the walls could
come down.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's all about safety, right, So as soon as you
crossed that line with the person that you love, and
it's a person that you've bet everything on at this
stage in your life, but.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
You can get not used to doing it previously.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
It's a really hard thing to do, and I think
a lot of us do it because we're scared about
how we're going to be perceived by the person that
we're with, or even in this beber sense, with our friends,
we do it because we don't want to lose the
friendship of course. And ultimately, what I've found through this
this this counseling that we've done recently is that.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's really bad for you. It's really really bad.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
It's going to come out at some stage.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Exactly exactly and more importantly, if you don't do it
so pray, if you don't let your emotions out, I
end up doing the thing which no one likes, which
is I sulk.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And even if I just do it subtly, sulking is
the worst thing you can do on the planet because and.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Then someone goes that you are right, yep, fine, fine, fine,
like you're good in there?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah good, And and then it's hard.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's like, can we talk about this, talk about what like, Okay,
I'm not going to go there. We'll think we've all
been guilty of sulking. By the way, we're not having
goos of people who sock. I think we all sulk well,
and we all know it sucks. But when you're in
the middle of a sulk, you're controlled by it.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
It's a shocking feeling when you when you're mid sulk.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Children sok.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I did a bit of research on sulking and Elanda
Boton talks about sulking because I was interested in why
I sulk. I'm like, why am I? Why am I sulker?
I hate the fact that I'm sulking? And he said,
because basically, at some stage in your life, you've been
told that your emotions aren't valid. At some stage, you've
had a moment.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's probably a parent when you're young, a parent being like,
be quiet, please be quiet, which is totally naturally if.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
They just don't understand you, they don't try and understand
your emotions. So you learn this thing like, hey, if
I'm letting my emotions rip here, the people that I'm
doing it for won't understand me. And so the reason
that children stay silent when they're sulking is because it's
basically them saying, you don't.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Understand me, right, and if you don't understand me, then
you don't love me.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
That's the correlation. You don't understand me, you don't.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Love me, which is so unfair because you're not telling
the person that you're sulking in front of how to
understand you. So you put this awful burden on your
lover to go normally.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Am I not going to talk to you?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You will have to mind read me to figure out
what my emotions actually are.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And then once you've done that, once you've proved to
me that you will.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Love me, then I will come back to you.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You've got a professor x me.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You've got to get in there for it and figure
out my emotions for me, I'm not going to tell
them to you. So I think there's a very valuablesson
that I learned recent that I wanted to share is
that like, if by not by not sharing your emotions,
by not by suppressing your emotions, you might feel like
you're doing the right thing, because I think that's often
where it comes from me, like, oh, I'm going to
protect you and.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
I'm going to be the bigger guy here and hold
onto my emotions.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You will eventually get to a point where you ruin
your relationship.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Yeah, sounds like you're a bit team Bieber.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I am by me some bebes kean on the big
guy will it's perfect a guy, You're.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Finally a believer a big times And.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It is so much bigger for Beiber as well, because
I feel like he has done that with the public
for his entire life, where he felt like he had
to be a certain.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
He had to be a sweetheart for everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And the world loved him, and has this moment where
he's going, you know what.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I'm not going to be this person for people anymore
because I've done it for so long and I'm sick
of it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's an interesting topic in general, isn't It is like
would we how much would we tolerate child star's behavior
if they weren't child stars previously?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
M It's a very interesting discussion.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I think stinksive tomorrow, does it? Yeah? We don't have
time now?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Oh right, yeah, well I wasn't jesting. We do it now?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Oh sorry, I thought you were, And I was like, bloddy,
hell mate.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
It feels like like a it feels like a through job.
That one. That's a big that's a big.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Big sit down.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I think.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
So I would speak to Louis Docco or something.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
So he's just handball to someone else. There you go.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
If you're a documentary maker, go and do something with
that subject matter.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Beth McGarvey Channel ten, if she's.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
The head of ten, she might pick it up. W
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