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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hello, Ales, are you good man?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Thank you so much for cutting your sound check a
little short or step, you know why.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
We're practicing right now for the MTV Awards. Crazy schedule
with with touring stuff, we actually don't get any proper rehearsals,
so I've been using sound checks as rehearsals.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh, crafty two for one, that's genius.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, then you can dial in your ear mix, but
also get to learn the new because we do so
many variations of ordinary, especially for TV.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
So yeah, right, that's great. It's almost like when you
go to go and have a shower and then you
realize you also need to do a poop and you're like,
I can do two for one in here the time,
and if.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
You leave the shower on the hottest setting, it's almost
like a makeshift steam room.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Now we're talking, and now that's that's three birds one stone.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
You got a multitask.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, that's that's really good. I would I've never actually
done that. I mean in Australia, it's a bit of
a thing about water restrictions. So I think it'd be
found upon if I had the hot water running for
ten minutes where I took a shit.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
But it is if you close the door, and I
never did that in California with all.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
The water restracts now from steaming poos.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Alex to a story about you that I truly, truly love.
I heard my friend that before you got into the industry,
you used to DM celebrities on social media.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
The best bit about this for mine is that you
then obviously get into the industry, you become world famous,
but weirdly you make the decision to not delete those
dms to people that you.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Now kind of know. It's awesome, Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
So, and I believe there's an example of Lewis Capaldi
talking to you or finding the DM from you from
before you were famous.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
So I not technically I DMD Lewis. There is a
like he was my first concert I ever went to.
So I did tag him in the story and I
never deleted it. It says Alex warn't tagged Lewis Pauley,
and then right underneath it, Lewis followed me back, and
so I sent him a photo of me on the
toilet while the steam was going, cantioned it. I captioned it,

(02:23):
I've been waiting for you and it's great.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Who else were you dming before you're in the industry.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I was just I don't know why I did it.
I would just DM everyone and be like I love
your song, or like I love your work. One of
them would see it and be like thanks man. I
remember dming Ed Sheeran asking him if he wanted to
be on my first song ever when I was like
sixteen or something.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah he didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Spoiler a lotoiler.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, I don't know. I think a lot of people
get in this position and they pretend that they're the cool,
mysterious musician, and I like the idea that like, these
people know that I've like grown up watching Like Sean
Men is another person where like I've told him to
his face that he's like the reason why, one of
the reasons why I got into music and felt like
I could do something in it. And so it's been
really cool.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
That is really cool.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
You're also fast forward.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I is Alex and you're performing at a secret pop
up Coachella show.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
With Ed seron crazy, right? Is that just constantly a
pinch yourself? Am I dreaming moment?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, it's been something really cool where like especially edlas
is the guy, like Ed is just the number one
for me, where it's always just been like I hope
one day I have a song with him and all
these things, and he is such an inspiration to the
music I make. But also why I do this and
why I treat people the way I do. Ed is
the kindest person I've every just something so so lost.

(03:51):
I feel like in this industry, everyone's got an ego
and everyone has different things, and that's why I hope messages.
That's why I treat everyone the same. Because Ed Sharon
could be the biggest asshole in the world. He is
worked so much and it has done so much, and
he could literally tell everyone to piss off, but he doesn't.
He's very kind.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
We did a podcast about this the other day, which, yeah,
it was just because you're good doesn't mean you have
to be a bitch, and just because you're a bitch
doesn't make you good.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Very wow. I love that.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
It's good.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
It's actually not mine. I actually got it off. Do
you know this is Jane country singer Casey Chambers. No,
I should have listened to her.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
She got inducted into the Hall of Fame in the
Arias and she got up on stage and was like,
I've always been led by this thing. My mom told
me just because you're good doesn't mean you have to
be a bitch, and just because your bitch doesn't mean
you're good.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's awesome.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
I've always remember, Wow, Yeah, I love you. Yeah, yeah,
it is good stuff. Hey man, you were talking about
Sewn Mendees being an inspiration to gett music. But I've
also been somewhere that if your father hadn't passed away,
you wouldn't have discovered your passion for music.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Is that is that true?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah? I mean, at least that's what I believe. And
my dad knew he was dying when I was born,
and so he kind of he wanted to speed run,
you know, watching his kids grow up. And so we
would every week do these talent shows. And I had
a guitar. I was obsessed with The Naked Brothers. Man,
if you know what that is. It was a TV
show and I would run around the house my underwear
playing guitar and not doing anything, and when he passed away,

(05:09):
it didn't hit me until I was like thirteen or fourteen,
and the first song I ever wrote was about how
my life was different and I wish I was cognitive
and of age enough to be able to say I'm
sorry and goodbye. And I never got to say goodbye
to my dad. I was nine. I didn't understand what
was happening, and so I wrote a song and it
was called well More I Love You on a piano
and my music career is shaped because of it. My

(05:32):
love life is shaped because of it. I've strived to
be the best father in the world, and one day,
hopefully I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I reckon you will. Bee. Have you met you for
about ten minutes? I reckon You'll be a great father?
Am I right?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And also saying Alex that you you were homeless for
a period of time.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, yeah, it was about four to six months. I
was sleeping in I was sleeping in a car. I
got a beat up salvaged Vulva wagon and nice left
my wife.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
So ordinary is about your wife?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Coover? Is that how I pronounce her name?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, okay cool.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
So so you're in the car with her wait, I
don't want a nitpick, but this came up. Correct me
if I'm wrong. You're talking to her online out of home.
There's lots going on. You're in the car, she's in Hawaii.
She then comes over and lives with you in the car.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Question from the floor, and this just came out natural.
Question does she have a home in Hawaii?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Why did she come to live with you in the
car when you could have gone to live with her
in the house.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
She had dropped out of college and she had fully
her parents hated me because of that. She had dropped
out of college away from Hawaii, and so Hawaiian family,
you typically don't leave. So she moved and she she
went to live with her friend in California. I became homeless,
and she said let's do it, and slept in a
car with.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
She became homeless for you.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yes, she dropped out of college, home and stuff. So
it's not like she had a home in Hawaii and
they would have totally accepted that.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but she chose and she couldn't.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Be with me. Pretty much.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Whoa, that's so much cooler.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Beautiful, that's coul No one never asked that question. No,
Like I've said this story a little while, no one
ever asks that. Actually, apparently the space cutter to fly
three thousand miles for some.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
But when you're both sleeping in the car by the way,
so I assume one of them's drive aside, one of
one of you is passenger side.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
What's your favorite meal when you when you're on the road.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
There's a peanut butter jars. That's peanut butter and jelly.
Well it would already come pre mixed. Oh wow, but
you just you have pbmjs for days and it's like.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
That, it's late, it's perfect of the things I lived on.
What's your rider for like a gig coming up? You're
at Margaret Corderena tonight. What's what's in your room? What
do you surround yourself with?

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well, typically my rider is a PPM J.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Actually really it still is. On the road. You are
now eating in the stadium.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
That's great, throwing like hard boiled eggs sometimes not together
or that would be good though.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, yeah, I usually have like vegetables and my wife,
like I always put flowers for my wife and chickens,
just like try to eat healthy, but then PDAJ is
a quick option.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, nice love.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
The producers are running me a note saying stop talking
about food, talk about music.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
So that's fair. That's good feedback. That's good live feedback
that we're receiving. I'm getting on mine.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Oh we don't mind either, man, But we're just puppets
for the man here. So let's we've got a brand
new song we're gonna be playing that we actually haven't
played here on willim Woody yet.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I know it's not a brand new song.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
We're gonna be playing Eternity, So don't talk to us
little bit more about eternity before we play.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, I mean funny enough. That sounds about grief and
kind of overcoming the fact that I, you know, my
parents are gone, and it's something that like it sticks
with you a little bit, Like like I said, I
never got to say goodbye my dad. I remember the
day before he died, I had been messing with him
because he was so out of it, like he was
on drugs or whatnot, and I would just I didn't

(09:03):
understand it. So I was just messing with them and
asking him for all these things, and like would you
buy me a Ferrari and Whatevering's like, whatever you mom?
That was the last conversation I've read, and my dad
is asking him to find me something. But yeah, my mom,
I never got to I never got to think about
her either.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
So oh, so this.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Is that song. That song is just kind of just
about like, you know, my mom drank herself to death
and kind of having the conversation with why you have
to chase the light somewhere I can't go?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
So WHOA is that hard to perform? Alex?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
It was the other day I posted this video. The
other day there was a girl named Haley who was
supposed to come to my show and she had passed
away a week ago, and her friends brought pictures of
her and she was supposed to sit front row and
I was having a really I caught something when I
came here, and so I've been I've been like fighting
a little bit of a sickness and I wasn't going

(09:52):
to perform it. It's a hard song, was singing, and
so they asked nicely and I did it and it
was really really sad and emotional and everyone in the
room was crying, and it was just that song just
moves a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I guess WHOA anyway, here it is. Listen to meme out.
That's all radio. That's a good pivot, Alex. You get it.
I got you pivoted for me. I wasn't looking forward
to it. I was like, Okay, I've got this, I've
got this.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Thank you so much. It's been so nice to meet you.
Thanks me.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
So I love I love talking about p B and
J's and Steve. I'd love to come into the place
and be able touch in his face.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
We all love that.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Good luck with the shows. Congratulations and everything. Dude, it's
a it's a humbling and and and an inspiring story.
I really truly where you are and who you are
is really beautiful. Mate. So congratulations you too, brother Alex
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