August 26, 2025 • 10 mins
Zoe Kravitz and Austin Butler join us to talk all about their newest movie 'Caught Stealing'. We cover a huge amount including sex scenes, their natural chemistry, Taylor Swift and even pull off a strip race which had a little surprise for one of us.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Heard hello four o'clock in the morning, is delirious.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
What time is it for?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well, thank you a lot of coffee and we're good
to go.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Australian coffee from the world it is.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You are right, Austin. Have you had Australian coffees? Are he?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
I don't, I mean not not knowingly you would know.
I would know. No, I haven't. I had. I guess
I drank coffee when I was in Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Put it.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Hey, guys, I just want to say congrats on the movie.
We've seen a lot of we see a lot of
media screenies. This is by far our favorite. We absolutely
loved it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We loved it. We loved it.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Yeah, we I do have to cavey at that with
the fact that we go and watch all the screen
is with our youngest producer, Analyse, who's here as well.
You can't see her, but she's uh, we very much
see her as our younger sister, and she had to
see between us during that really saucy scene at the start,
which was incredibly awkward for all of us.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, I apologize.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, it was tough, man.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
I couldn't look her in the eye afterwards, and kind
kind of got us thinking, actually, did you like, how
do you do you know after doing a scene like that?
You know, do you tell your families like, hey, guys,
first fifteen minutes just just fast forward, first forward?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
How do you never know?
Speaker 6 (01:48):
No, I just don't really even think about the fact
that anyone's going to see the movie.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Actually, you know if I think, if I think about that,
I'll get I'll get scared not only of like doing
like intimate scenes, but also just in general, like it
just you kind of have to just pretend like it's
just happening.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
In the moment. Oh cool.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
There's there's so much fun in that scene as well,
that both your characters bring to that saucy scene. You
know that that fun between your relationship. I'm interested to
ask you though, there's there's obviously a strip race between
the two of you. You've only met Will and I
for about a minute now, but out of the two
of us.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Who do you think is winning the strip race?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Well, well you're not wearing a vest.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's true, that is true.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
One less clothing on you in the in your current state.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, Proba's not your friend.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, rip zips, rip zips to win this thing.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
My question is do yourdatas do you have?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
No, they're not, unfortunately, but again I'm so competitive that
I would rip these bad boys off to win at.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
We're going to money money on you because you seem
like vicious and vicious he.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Is you're picking that up there.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
We were going to offer to do it for you, guys,
but just a reminder, it's five o'clock in the morning
here somewhere, and would fair you'd love to see it
for you.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
We'll give you, guys a show. You gave us such
a good show with the movie. We'll finish with a
little strip.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
At the end.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I don want to focus on the start of the movie, though,
Like there's this so much action and excitement that all
spawns from this offer from your character's neighbor to effectively
look after his cat Austin.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And it did.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Remind me Zoe of a time that your mum's snake
stayed at Taylor Swift's house.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I like saying it that way, the snake stay at
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yes, of course, will doesn't know this story, but that
that didn't go too well.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Zoe, Well, it didn't go as bad as it could have.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It didn't go as good as it could have.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
You know, the snake is okay, Orpheus, We didn't lose
the snake. The bathroom was destroyed, but we fixed it.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Taylor and I they are no longer friends. She won't
talk to me, she won't call me back.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Nosed the bathroom, like what how did them?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
The snake? The snake?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
My mom we were staying okay, we were staying at
her house during the La fires, and my mom listened
to Panga we had to evacuate. So she brought her
snake with her, and she put the snake down in
the bathroom while she was washing her face and closed
the door, thinking that the snake would have nowhere to go.
But Orpheus found a very small hole in the corner,
(04:49):
and she caught her before she went fully into the hole.
So she was holding onto the tail and we but
snakes are very strong and so we couldn't get her out,
and so we had to pull up like a whole
banquette and destroy this bathroom in order to stop the
snake from getting lost in the wall for forever.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I'm always interested in those moments, Zoe, And I'm sure
you can weigh in here as well, Austin, like, do
you think the best thing to do is to just
be really honest with Taylor and tell her what's happened,
or just try and fix the entire bathroom without her
ever knowing?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
No, My plan was to fix it and then tell
her to say, you know, everything's fixed, or don't worry,
but FYI, this happened because it's a funny story.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
That was my plan.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
And I had asked the people that kind of you know,
take care of her house to you know, not to
tell her and fix it, but they obviously don't care
what I say.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
It did. And so when I called Taylor like a
couple of weeks later.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
And said, you know, hey, I wanted to let you
know something, she was like, is it that you you
lost a snack in my house?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I wake the bath room and she thought it was
quite funny. It wasn't pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Let's talk about your your chemistry on screen. Because we
carely not to give away too much here. There's some
mean twists and turns in this movie. But we were
brought in like from the start, and it was like
a really cool portrayal I think of like a really
adult relationship.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It's very sex positive.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
It was you know, you know, Zoe, you were kind
of like propositioning Austin or your character was, and you
were also kind of calling the shots on like hey, look,
you come to me when you're already sort of thing,
and we both walked away. We were like, I believed
that you guys were together, like there was no sense
of there was any acting going on.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Really, how do you build chemistry with each other? Like
that is it? Do you kind of see because I
imagine you can't just turn that on.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Do you sit down and talk about your deepest, darkest secrets?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Do you do by staring? I don't know. How do
you How do you get there?
Speaker 6 (06:51):
I think it's a combination of spending time together and
really getting to know.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Still a bit before the moment.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Darren.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
One of the first things we did is Darren drove
us to Coney Island and we went on like a
little road trip together and hung out and like had
some beers and like, you know, played air hockey. The
Aarin was really great, a kind of like encouraging us
to all spend time together. And then I think it
was about finding the specificity of the characters and where
they're at in their relationship. I think that's actually doing
(07:22):
a lot of the heavy lifting in a way, because
it is such a specific time, like this gray area
in between, like two people who are just kind of
casually seeing each other and sleeping together and then kind
of deciding like, Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I think we're actually feeling a little bit more and
do we want to you know, explore that such.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
A specific time, you know, and for that to get
interrupted by what happens in the film, you know, and
there's so much you know, there's so much help, you know,
and I think a lot of people are watching this
relationship and projecting, you know, what could have been you know.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, yeah, totally, one hundred percent. Sorry. Often.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
The other part of this film, which really it kind
of smecks me across the head, is that your character
gets his ass handed to him just so many times.
And we also saw that in the Back Riders as well.
It kind of that a feeling to me, like are
you now picking roles based on your character getting in
physical pain?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Like serious physical pain?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (08:21):
The masochist inside just.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Want to.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Punishment, you know, I I think about Yeah, I've been
thinking about Harrison Ford a lot. Like I used to
watch Some forty.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
He gets beaten up so well in movies.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
You know you watched him get beaten up and and
I used to play pretend as a child before I
ever started acting, so eight years old, and I always
loved that. It was like I watched watch Indiana Jones
and then we want to act that out. And it
was always like, or you watch Paul newmaner or these
these people who they get hit and they did knock down,
(08:56):
but they keep getting back up.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You know, you're so good at it though every single
time you're in pain. You just believe it so much.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Thank you what.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He's also glutton for punishment.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Loved is the best thing in the world.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
That was his six saying for the movie. Actually, he
was like, oh god.
Speaker 7 (09:17):
Yeah, you just love to seeing me get punching the face.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
If you can punch him right now, that all my
dreams come true.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I got one of those faces.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Very punishable. Guys.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Well, look, congrats on the film. Yeah, really awesome. Are
going to try and do this? Okay, you want the
strip rice straight for one.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
We go.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
No way, no.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Bed's going to I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Oh my god, believe it.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think I think we'll want for sure had shirt.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Wow, this is the best thing ship, the best. I
knew the best was going the best one.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Damn that was closed thought the best.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
We won't keep doing the same there stop things.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
But I can't wait till this is over. And they're
just like it's poor in the morning and they're just
the coffee so fresh. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
You do a lot of these. Thank you for the movie.
I have to give you a show as well, only
in Australia. Thanks guys,
My Heart podcasts, hear More Kids podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free I.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Heard hello four o'clock in the morning, is delirious.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
What time is it for?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well, thank you a lot of coffee and we're good
to go.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Australian coffee from the world it is.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You are right, Austin. Have you had Australian coffees? Are he?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
I don't, I mean not not knowingly you would know.
I would know. No, I haven't. I had. I guess
I drank coffee when I was in Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Put it.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Hey, guys, I just want to say congrats on the movie.
We've seen a lot of we see a lot of
media screenies. This is by far our favorite. We absolutely
loved it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We loved it. We loved it.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Yeah, we I do have to cavey at that with
the fact that we go and watch all the screen
is with our youngest producer, Analyse, who's here as well.
You can't see her, but she's uh, we very much
see her as our younger sister, and she had to
see between us during that really saucy scene at the start,
which was incredibly awkward for all of us.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, I apologize.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, it was tough, man.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
I couldn't look her in the eye afterwards, and kind
kind of got us thinking, actually, did you like, how
do you do you know after doing a scene like that?
You know, do you tell your families like, hey, guys,
first fifteen minutes just just fast forward, first forward?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
How do you never know?
Speaker 6 (01:48):
No, I just don't really even think about the fact
that anyone's going to see the movie.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Actually, you know if I think, if I think about that,
I'll get I'll get scared not only of like doing
like intimate scenes, but also just in general, like it
just you kind of have to just pretend like it's
just happening.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
In the moment. Oh cool.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
There's there's so much fun in that scene as well,
that both your characters bring to that saucy scene. You
know that that fun between your relationship. I'm interested to
ask you though, there's there's obviously a strip race between
the two of you. You've only met Will and I
for about a minute now, but out of the two
of us.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Who do you think is winning the strip race?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Well, well you're not wearing a vest.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's true, that is true.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
One less clothing on you in the in your current state.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, Proba's not your friend.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, rip zips, rip zips to win this thing.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
My question is do yourdatas do you have?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
No, they're not, unfortunately, but again I'm so competitive that
I would rip these bad boys off to win at.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
We're going to money money on you because you seem
like vicious and vicious he.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Is you're picking that up there.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
We were going to offer to do it for you, guys,
but just a reminder, it's five o'clock in the morning
here somewhere, and would fair you'd love to see it
for you.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
We'll give you, guys a show. You gave us such
a good show with the movie. We'll finish with a
little strip.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
At the end.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I don want to focus on the start of the movie, though,
Like there's this so much action and excitement that all
spawns from this offer from your character's neighbor to effectively
look after his cat Austin.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And it did.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Remind me Zoe of a time that your mum's snake
stayed at Taylor Swift's house.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I like saying it that way, the snake stay at
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yes, of course, will doesn't know this story, but that
that didn't go too well.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Zoe, Well, it didn't go as bad as it could have.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It didn't go as good as it could have.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
You know, the snake is okay, Orpheus, We didn't lose
the snake. The bathroom was destroyed, but we fixed it.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Taylor and I they are no longer friends. She won't
talk to me, she won't call me back.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Nosed the bathroom, like what how did them?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
The snake? The snake?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
My mom we were staying okay, we were staying at
her house during the La fires, and my mom listened
to Panga we had to evacuate. So she brought her
snake with her, and she put the snake down in
the bathroom while she was washing her face and closed
the door, thinking that the snake would have nowhere to go.
But Orpheus found a very small hole in the corner,
(04:49):
and she caught her before she went fully into the hole.
So she was holding onto the tail and we but
snakes are very strong and so we couldn't get her out,
and so we had to pull up like a whole
banquette and destroy this bathroom in order to stop the
snake from getting lost in the wall for forever.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I'm always interested in those moments, Zoe, And I'm sure
you can weigh in here as well, Austin, like, do
you think the best thing to do is to just
be really honest with Taylor and tell her what's happened,
or just try and fix the entire bathroom without her
ever knowing?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
No, My plan was to fix it and then tell
her to say, you know, everything's fixed, or don't worry,
but FYI, this happened because it's a funny story.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
That was my plan.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
And I had asked the people that kind of you know,
take care of her house to you know, not to
tell her and fix it, but they obviously don't care
what I say.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
It did. And so when I called Taylor like a
couple of weeks later.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
And said, you know, hey, I wanted to let you
know something, she was like, is it that you you
lost a snack in my house?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I wake the bath room and she thought it was
quite funny. It wasn't pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Let's talk about your your chemistry on screen. Because we
carely not to give away too much here. There's some
mean twists and turns in this movie. But we were
brought in like from the start, and it was like
a really cool portrayal I think of like a really
adult relationship.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It's very sex positive.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
It was you know, you know, Zoe, you were kind
of like propositioning Austin or your character was, and you
were also kind of calling the shots on like hey, look,
you come to me when you're already sort of thing,
and we both walked away. We were like, I believed
that you guys were together, like there was no sense
of there was any acting going on.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Really, how do you build chemistry with each other? Like
that is it? Do you kind of see because I
imagine you can't just turn that on.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Do you sit down and talk about your deepest, darkest secrets?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Do you do by staring? I don't know. How do
you How do you get there?
Speaker 6 (06:51):
I think it's a combination of spending time together and
really getting to know.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Still a bit before the moment.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Darren.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
One of the first things we did is Darren drove
us to Coney Island and we went on like a
little road trip together and hung out and like had
some beers and like, you know, played air hockey. The
Aarin was really great, a kind of like encouraging us
to all spend time together. And then I think it
was about finding the specificity of the characters and where
they're at in their relationship. I think that's actually doing
(07:22):
a lot of the heavy lifting in a way, because
it is such a specific time, like this gray area
in between, like two people who are just kind of
casually seeing each other and sleeping together and then kind
of deciding like, Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I think we're actually feeling a little bit more and
do we want to you know, explore that such.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
A specific time, you know, and for that to get
interrupted by what happens in the film, you know, and
there's so much you know, there's so much help, you know,
and I think a lot of people are watching this
relationship and projecting, you know, what could have been you know.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, yeah, totally, one hundred percent. Sorry. Often.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
The other part of this film, which really it kind
of smecks me across the head, is that your character
gets his ass handed to him just so many times.
And we also saw that in the Back Riders as well.
It kind of that a feeling to me, like are
you now picking roles based on your character getting in
physical pain?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Like serious physical pain?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (08:21):
The masochist inside just.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Want to.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Punishment, you know, I I think about Yeah, I've been
thinking about Harrison Ford a lot. Like I used to
watch Some forty.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
He gets beaten up so well in movies.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
You know you watched him get beaten up and and
I used to play pretend as a child before I
ever started acting, so eight years old, and I always
loved that. It was like I watched watch Indiana Jones
and then we want to act that out. And it
was always like, or you watch Paul newmaner or these
these people who they get hit and they did knock down,
(08:56):
but they keep getting back up.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You know, you're so good at it though every single
time you're in pain. You just believe it so much.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Thank you what.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He's also glutton for punishment.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Loved is the best thing in the world.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
That was his six saying for the movie. Actually, he
was like, oh god.
Speaker 7 (09:17):
Yeah, you just love to seeing me get punching the face.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
If you can punch him right now, that all my
dreams come true.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I got one of those faces.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Very punishable. Guys.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Well, look, congrats on the film. Yeah, really awesome. Are
going to try and do this? Okay, you want the
strip rice straight for one.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
We go.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
No way, no.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Bed's going to I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Oh my god, believe it.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think I think we'll want for sure had shirt.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Wow, this is the best thing ship, the best. I
knew the best was going the best one.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Damn that was closed thought the best.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
We won't keep doing the same there stop things.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
But I can't wait till this is over. And they're
just like it's poor in the morning and they're just
the coffee so fresh. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
You do a lot of these. Thank you for the movie.
I have to give you a show as well, only
in Australia. Thanks guys,
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