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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
A Hi shaniah. Hi, heire. You're going so nice to
meet you.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
They here.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
It's so funny to meet you because I've actually it's
six o'clock in the morning here and my three year
old daughter was up very early, so we've been and
she was like, daddy, who you interviewed this morning? I
was like, Shania Twain and we had We've just been
dancing and seeking to Shania Twain in the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
So it's just very funny to see you. That's good
in person.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Now, the new Uber campaign Shanaia, it's amazing. I can't
wait to see the finished product. But the concept is
all about the things you can be doing in the
car if you're not driving, and without giving away too much,
there is a moment where it also shows off someone
getting a Shania Twain tattoo on their chest as an
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example of something you can do whilst not driving. Now,
I assume someone of your fame has a lot of
people out there in the world with actually your face
tattooed on them. How does it feel to know that
you probably are tattooed on a lot of people around
the world.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Oh, well, it's not something.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I mean, I've seen quite a few tattoos of me
on people. If I meet a fan that's got one,
they usually show it to me.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
The worst thing about that is as you age, they
no longer look like me.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
That worries me when I see one of those, like,
oh boy, I'm gonna look a little distorted there in
about five.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Anyway, it's a compliment. Anyway, it's a cute thing. I
think it's really sweet.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Where's the go to location for people?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Where where's the desirable spot to have a Shania Twain
face on the body?
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Oh, I'd say right on the forehead that would be
the best place, because you know they don't sag like
other parts.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, true, that is true, they say, pretty good. Well,
I suppose it's getting tattoos of you is one thing, Shania.
But I'm not sure how much Woods wants me to
reveal of this. But how do you feel about people
running marathons in your T shirt?
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Well?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Why wouldn't you?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
So this happened, I did this, Shanaia. So six years
ago I came.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And saw you when you were here in Australia, And
can I just say you were like so so good
when when man I Feel Like a Woman came on, Like,
I don't think I've ever been in a gig before
where every single female got up in the concert and
it was.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Like their anthem.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Did you know that when you made men I Feel
like a woman that would almost become the song of
female empowerment?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
No, I mean it was the song of my own
female empowerment that. Did I know that was going to translate?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
No, of course not.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
But it was a genuine moment of I'm finally in
my late twenties becoming comfortable in my own skin, and
I was like, in my own mind, it's about time.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So I made a statement.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Now it was a real statement, and I think that
that did translate and it transferred to to anybody out
there who needed that little push to.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Feel good in the rown.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Skin Ixamp, well I did.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I bought the T shirt at the gig because I
loved it so much, and as Will said, I did
wear it in a marathon. But I'm kind of angry
at is Shaniah because obviously I did an Instagram post
about the fact that I'd achieved a marathon and expected
a lot of love for that, but all I received
was love your T shirt.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Why are you so surprised? Come? I?
Speaker 7 (03:38):
I was right there with you, hey, speaking about being
an icon and a role model empowering women Shanaia.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I mean, obviously that is in that song, and I
remember my sister singing that song when I was little,
and all I wanted to be was a woman singing
that song with her because it was just like, Wow,
damn man, women are so much cooler than me. But
I suppose now I'm wondering if that song means more
to you because you know, obviously in researching and doing
some research for this interview, and so much about your
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personal life, which has just sounded so wild, like the
whole Limes to Sase thing that was crazy, man, and
then losing your mom and your stepdad, and then the
role you had to play for your family, and I
feel like all of that was kind of happening in
and around the same time. Can you can you talk
through those events and like, you know, the sort of
strength and resilience that you found, Well.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
All of my experiences in life are what inspires and
I guess it fuels my storytelling in music. That really
drives my creativity.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It's also my escapism.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Yeah's going great in my life, you know, I'm I'm going, oh, okay,
well let's sing about something else for a while, and
I get creative. So and I don't look for things.
I'm not a drama taste in person, but right, yeah, Yeah.
The more things I experience that are outside of them,
out of the norm or outside of my comfort zone own,
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even if it's a bad thing, it still enriches me
is something to turn around and write about.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I've heard a lot of Morissett talk about that to
saying that like the closer that she got to like
real pain or suffering, she was like, that's the moment
that I knew that I hit paid it because she
was like, Okay, great, this is going to be something
that you know, it is real, and it's going to
be something that I can work with.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
It gives you something to write about, you know, and
and it keeps your life. As painful as some things
can be, if you can turn it around into something
productive and maybe in turn inspiring to other people, then
it's actually not in vain.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Yeah, which is what you do. Yeah, you do that
in spade.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I also did a little bit of research just about
your earlier life, Shania and Cretin. This is if this
is wrong, but when you were lumberjack at some stage
in your life, did you chop wood? Of course you
were good lumberjack. You're strong lumberjack.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, I'm good. I'm good with the chainsaw, good with
the axe.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You It kind of comes with the territory, doesn't it, Like.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I'm of course, yeah, exactly, Like that's the way I
grew up. You got to a lot of the times
where I'm from, even just to get from A to B,
you gotta chop your way through the bush. A lot
of people in Canada carry their their chain saws in
their trunk or whatever, because if there's a tree falling
and you're trying to get home, who knows when the
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next car is going to come along. I'm not even kidding, right,
because these are areas with like very small population, so
you rely on somebody driving by in the next hour,
So you got to be able to get out there
and chop it up.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
And all I'm picturing though, is Shanaia twined in full
leopid print. Now chopping would is that when the lipid
prints start or when did the leopid print start, Shanna,
because that's again it's synonymous with Shana Twine now that
leopid print.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Look, the Lumberjack is no wear the leopard print. You
do not have leopards in Canada now. The lubber print
came in much later in life when I was really
starting to enjoy fashion and being a vegetarian. I'm like
an animal print that I can wear it without wearing
the skin.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah yeah, cool right, nice.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And lopbard print.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Was the go to for me. It was the neutral
and I really loved it. So knowing that I could
wear a stretch velvet leopard.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Print, Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I just found myself.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
It's amazing that you come across as so extra like,
you come across as so extroverted, and you always look amazing.
You did this performance with Harry Styles at Coachella. There's
one hundred thousand people there, and I think for a
lot of people that's intimidating, and but I was learning
that you also have had your struggles with performing or
just being on a stage.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Can talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Oh, I I had severe stage fright.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Most of my career. It was probably I don't.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
I mean, I'm not gonna bank menopause, but I'm gonna
say that. It was just like, all of a sudden,
I'm like, what why am I letting this get in
my way?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
This? This? You know, I don't even know what the
fear is.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
It's hard to get even explain, like, you know, okay,
you want to you want to try fear going too menopause?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You know. I was like, oh.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
No, I had to re set the things that got.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
In my way.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
There's things you can control and there's things you cannot control,
and fear you can control. Can manage it, you can
see it in a different way. And I don't know,
it's just like a light bulb went on and I
realized that I was wasting a lot of time being
afraid of getting on stage doing what I loved.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Having seen you love You would have no idea that
you have stage fraught, though, well.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
It was so difficult, and I mean I would I
would say the same thing for so many people.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You see, you know a lot of people talk about
stage fright.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
You would never know it, but it's it's a terrible, terrible,
crippling feeling.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And experience, but.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
I mean I would overcome it, but it was challenged
by challenge. Like every time I went out there was
this well petrified experience over and over and over and
over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So and that's your job, Like it's not like something.
It's you're doing it every day.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Probably it's terrible. So it's it's like you have to
go through.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
The pain before you can get it of being out there.
I mean when I was younger, no, I was just
I just suffered through it. I just pushed, you know.
A real turning point for me was also and a
reality check was when I got my limes this season.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I had to get my throat.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Open, open throat surgery access the nerves, and I survived it.
I have symptoms that I just live with and they're
permanent apparently, so that's you know, I just.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Have to live with it.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Like everything you know we have, we all have permanent
ailments that we have to live with.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
That swell look at it.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Do you feel Do you feel grateful every time you sing? Now, Shana,
because I know again I'm preferred to a live performance.
You said on stage that there was there was a
moment in your life where you thought you were never
going to be able to sing again.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
So how special does it feel to be singing now?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Well, this is another thing where your prospective changes. So
it's like, oh, I can actually sing after all of this,
after open throat surgery, after you know, this lines attack.
So I'm going to make the most of it and
I'm going to damn enjoy it. I love that it
was like confronting something that I that shouldn't have been
there in the first place, but it was, and I
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couldn't change that. But I went from pushing through to
pushing the fear aside.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, Adam out, there's.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
One more question that WOULDY and I are dying to ask.
I know that you've probably had this question a billion times,
but it's you know, before we knew you, or we
knew all of you. I mean, I think the song
that probably was the biggest song in Australia when we
were growing up was that don't impress me much?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Have you ever have you and Brad Pitt got beef?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Did you ever bump into him and have to have
a conversation there?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Was he ever? I just mentioned him walking.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Up to you and a party in Hollywood and being
like Shana, like, what did I ever do to you?
Speaker 6 (11:27):
How does this not impress you?
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I know, well, no, we've never met, and I mean,
you know, there's a lot of Hollywood celebrities I've never met,
so it's.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Not you know, your chopping wood and the leopard print,
so no doubt you don't get to see him.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
He must be impressed with that though, you know, yeah,
leopard print, check and chop wood and music and also.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
The only person in the world who's not impressed by
him as well. I think really they drive him insane.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Over on Fallen Tree out of the Road. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
I mean, maybe he'll think of me if that rappens
to him on maybe I better call Should I ever
ask for how to do?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
So? He was just a guy who was just he
It's just this thing that was just like the antithesis
to the song you were writing at the time.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Exactly because I was thinking, Okay, everybody in the world's
in love with bridepit right now. There were nude photos
out of him and everybody was gaga over that, and
I'm thinking, Okay, if there is any one that is
making an impression on everyone, and that's my picked on him.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I love that. I also just love that it's unspoken
between you guys.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I can't if I was, if I was like in Hollywood,
I would just hold a dinner party and only invite
you too, and then.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Just seek me out right and it is by now,
it's okay.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And if you're trying so hard to impress you, I
just love that bit in that world, just trying so
hard to impress someone.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Rocks up in the lipard with a chainsaw.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh, he certainly doesn't have to try very hard. I think.
I'm sure he's got a pretty good sense of humor.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
It it sounds like it you have a great sense
of humor. I just learning.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I mean, I think we can talk to you forever,
learning so much about what you've been through, who you are,
the musician you are, the musician you're becoming. Know there's
a biopic that's in the works at the moment, which
sounds absolutely brilliant. We love everything you do and we're
so pumped to have spoken to you, to have the
privilege of speaking to you and to learn more about you,
and I think your audiences as well. You really continue
to be an icon for not just women, but people
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all over the world and in terms of resilience, art
and so many other things. It's been a privilege, so
thanks so much for having us, Thank you, thanks, appreciate
that