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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My hard podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists and listen
live on the Free I heard a we have a.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Guest first time here on Willing Woody, which is very
very exciting. Some of you guys would know either through
Paul Fisher, the DJ, but obviously very much of her
own recently co hosts of the podcast Darling Shine New
Mum Chloe Fisher on will and Woody.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Welcome mate, Thanks Sky, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So good to have you here. So we're going to
talk a little bit about Always You Very very Shortly,
which is out now at all good bookstores. Looking forward
to talking about that, but before we do, you've come
straight off and ibetha summer with a kid. How the
bloody hell did that guy?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Wow, Well, it's definitely Look, it's great for families, but
it's definitely different when you've got a kid who is
one and a half and she's a pocket rocket. It's
a different scene to the scenes that I've been the
last few years, and the next year will be a
whole different scene too. Under two. Yeah, it's an interesting one.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Bobby's her name, isn't it your daughter?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Bobby does does Bobby get to see daddy on the
decks Dejane at all.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, you know what, she obviously can't come to the club.
He doesn't play for three She can't come to the club.
He doesn't play for three am. Actually, so not even
I go to the club very often. But we are
waiting for She's been to like one or two shows,
but we're really waiting for her moment because it's hard
because it's so loud, you know, and when they're young,
(01:39):
they really don't want to wear the noise canceling headphones.
So we're just waiting for the right moment for her.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So your husband, he starts his gig at three am. Now,
now I know, I'm a father myself.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You know, kids up at six am and they want
to play, they want to hang out with dad. How
does it go the morning after his three am gigs
when Bobby's going, where's Dad?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, well it's definitely a juggle. So in our apartment
in Iviza, there's like a spare room, so generally he
will creeping, have snacks, get go to the fridge, do
the snacks, and I will hear him and I'm like,
do not wake the baby up. And generally by the
time he creeps into the spare room to get some
sleep because I don't want him to also wake me up.
(02:22):
The baby will then wake up, and then she said, Dad,
it's just like, but you know what, he is a trooper,
Like he doesn't really drink or anything anymore. So he
gets like a couple of hours sleep and then he's up.
So he's an amazing dad. He's going, I don't know
if I could do it, but he really does get
up and he just gets going with the baby. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I suppose to go to kind of like make Hay
while the sun shines a little bit in that DJing
scene I remember back in well sort of like that
iconic trait Losing It debuted Coachello in twenty eighteen. Can
you describe the change in your life since that happened.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, it's definitely pretty fast paced. Our life is always go,
go go, you know. We live between Gold Coast La Abetha,
and it's crazy for him, Like since we've had the baby,
it's definitely slowed down a lot for me, but he stays.
He stays on the road, but we will just be
based wherever kind of he is. And it's an amazing lifestyle.
(03:21):
We absolutely love it, Like it does have its you know,
pros and cons. I obviously really miss my family and
friends a lot, and you know, being home right now
it's just like heaven because we get to just be
in everyone's pockets again. But yeah, it's it is busy,
but we're such a tight unit. You know. It looks
crazy and like everyone thinks that he's this like really crazy,
full on persona, but he's actually a very very chill
(03:43):
person and when he's not on the stage, he is
like a full on family man. We actually spend a
lot of time not with people because we just love
spending time together and cooking at home. And like our
friends haven't changed, our family had, Like everything's the same,
you know, it's just we don't get to spend as
much time at home home.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, yeah, Chloe. Another big part of the book is
something that my wife actually spoke to me a lot
about because she's an avid listener of your podcast, Darling Shine.
Can you tell us a bit for those that don't
know your journey to get pregnant and eventually bringing Bobby
into the world.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, so we started our fertility journey back in twenty twenty.
We felt pregnant actually the first time, and went on
to have a miscourage at about five weeks, and it
kind of came as a shock to me because I
was in my twenties, and I thought, Oh, that's weird,
Like who does this happen to I knew my mom
and had one, but like it was very foreign, Like
I thought, you know, you have to be older to
(04:43):
have miscourages. No one speaks about this. This is weird,
Like I feel like it's only happening to me, And
then proceeded to then another four years on have another
four miscourages. We lost a set of twins about a
year and we ended up started going down the IVF
and the fertility doctor route because it was just not
(05:04):
really working for us naturally, and we did eight rounds
of IVF, three of them too, and then the rest
of them didn't work. Basically, what was happening inside my
uterus was every time I was having a miscarriage, the
way that my body was healing was healing with a
lot of scar tissue. So the more times I'd feel pregnant,
the more times it would take, the further along in
(05:25):
the pregnancy would come about. And then I would lose
the baby because they were in our mind. And this
is what I've kind of come to the conclusion is
that there wasn't enough blood circulation in my uterus for
the baby to grow any further because there was so
much scarring. Now, I saw so many doctors, a lot
of most of them were You're just unlucky, and I
(05:45):
was thinking, no, I'm not. This is not normal. It
can't be normal recurrent miscarriage for my age. You know,
when you're in the fertility trenches, you have to tick
all the boxes within yourself before you can kind of
move on to the next steps. We floated the idea
sorry to See quite a few times, but I just
wasn't ready to move to that step. I'm like, I
still need answers within myself. I had to really make
(06:08):
sure opened myself that i'd been like, I've done that,
I've ticked that box. If I wasn't doing the background researcher,
if I wasn't trying to work out what's going on,
you're not walking out of the doctor surgery and they're
not doing the research for you, like they're just not
not only a miscarrit going through a miscarriage, isolating and lonely.
But the fertility journey is also really isolating and lonely.
When you have no answers, you are literally pulling your
(06:31):
hair out, going what the hell is going on? And
I had this beautiful woman who lives in Queensland that
offered to be my surrogate and we found her through
the podcast actually, so we did the psych test, we
did the lawyer stuff like it literally went on six
to eight months process that we went through. Yeah, lots
of zoom interviews. We met her. Paul and I went
(06:53):
on our really really belated honeymoon like three years later,
to the Maldives after his IBS A season in twenty thirteen,
just literally just enjoyed each other. Witched off. We were
going home to Australia to meet the surrogate in person
and I hadn't physically I had the big document like
the agreement, but I hadn't physically signed it yet. I
was like, you know what, I'm just going to I
(07:14):
just feel like I feel better doing it with her
in person. And I was reading the document before I
went to this elective procedure and it says sustain from
intercourse for the two weeks in the lead up, and
I thought, well, broken that rule. So we were at
our honeymoon, but I was just like, you know what,
(07:34):
it would never like, it would just never. It's the
chances none. But I'm like, I'm not going to waste
my time and drive from Cool and Dadda to Surface
Paradise to see this document and they're going to make
me do this anyway, so I might as well do
one at home, did a pregnancy test Paul wasn't even
in the country and positive, and I was like, you're kidding.
So then we actually continued to go on the next
(07:56):
way to meet the surrogate and her husband to tell
them that she's no longer needed. And yeah, I mean
it was petrifying. The whole pregnancy with Bobby was really
really scary, of course, but we made it to the
end and it was and we've got her now and
it was just like the biggest blessing in the world.
I'm not sure if I'm grateful I got to labor,
(08:18):
because that is just a whole nother ball game.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Again, naturally naturally again, Yes.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, I think my body just must have like worked
out what to do. I don't know. I still still
to this day I don't really have like the full
on answer as to what the problem like really was.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It was almost with this stuff. I mean, we had
a couple of miscarriages as well, certainly nothing as as
long or as drawn out as yours. But I feel
like you almost get the sense that there's like, you know,
kind of like a mystery to all of this, which
kind of wants to stay a mystery. What a crazy story.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So happy for you guys, now, how good?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I know.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, look if everyone get a copy, Always you by
Chloe Fisher, out and out all good bookstores, Chloe, good
luck with the book, long much, good luck with the baby,
thanks so much for coming on the show, and relaxed
with good luck with the room service, whatever you choose,
so much
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Guys, I really appreciate it.
My hard podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists and listen
live on the Free I heard a we have a.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Guest first time here on Willing Woody, which is very
very exciting. Some of you guys would know either through
Paul Fisher, the DJ, but obviously very much of her
own recently co hosts of the podcast Darling Shine New
Mum Chloe Fisher on will and Woody.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Welcome mate, Thanks Sky, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So good to have you here. So we're going to
talk a little bit about Always You Very very Shortly,
which is out now at all good bookstores. Looking forward
to talking about that, but before we do, you've come
straight off and ibetha summer with a kid. How the
bloody hell did that guy?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Wow, Well, it's definitely Look, it's great for families, but
it's definitely different when you've got a kid who is
one and a half and she's a pocket rocket. It's
a different scene to the scenes that I've been the
last few years, and the next year will be a
whole different scene too. Under two. Yeah, it's an interesting one.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Bobby's her name, isn't it your daughter?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Bobby does does Bobby get to see daddy on the
decks Dejane at all.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, you know what, she obviously can't come to the club.
He doesn't play for three She can't come to the club.
He doesn't play for three am. Actually, so not even
I go to the club very often. But we are
waiting for She's been to like one or two shows,
but we're really waiting for her moment because it's hard
because it's so loud, you know, and when they're young,
(01:39):
they really don't want to wear the noise canceling headphones.
So we're just waiting for the right moment for her.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So your husband, he starts his gig at three am. Now,
now I know, I'm a father myself.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You know, kids up at six am and they want
to play, they want to hang out with dad. How
does it go the morning after his three am gigs
when Bobby's going, where's Dad?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, well it's definitely a juggle. So in our apartment
in Iviza, there's like a spare room, so generally he
will creeping, have snacks, get go to the fridge, do
the snacks, and I will hear him and I'm like,
do not wake the baby up. And generally by the
time he creeps into the spare room to get some
sleep because I don't want him to also wake me up.
(02:22):
The baby will then wake up, and then she said, Dad,
it's just like, but you know what, he is a trooper,
Like he doesn't really drink or anything anymore. So he
gets like a couple of hours sleep and then he's up.
So he's an amazing dad. He's going, I don't know
if I could do it, but he really does get
up and he just gets going with the baby. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I suppose to go to kind of like make Hay
while the sun shines a little bit in that DJing
scene I remember back in well sort of like that
iconic trait Losing It debuted Coachello in twenty eighteen. Can
you describe the change in your life since that happened.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, it's definitely pretty fast paced. Our life is always go,
go go, you know. We live between Gold Coast La Abetha,
and it's crazy for him, Like since we've had the baby,
it's definitely slowed down a lot for me, but he stays.
He stays on the road, but we will just be
based wherever kind of he is. And it's an amazing lifestyle.
(03:21):
We absolutely love it, Like it does have its you know,
pros and cons. I obviously really miss my family and
friends a lot, and you know, being home right now
it's just like heaven because we get to just be
in everyone's pockets again. But yeah, it's it is busy,
but we're such a tight unit. You know. It looks
crazy and like everyone thinks that he's this like really crazy,
full on persona, but he's actually a very very chill
(03:43):
person and when he's not on the stage, he is
like a full on family man. We actually spend a
lot of time not with people because we just love
spending time together and cooking at home. And like our
friends haven't changed, our family had, Like everything's the same,
you know, it's just we don't get to spend as
much time at home home.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, yeah, Chloe. Another big part of the book is
something that my wife actually spoke to me a lot
about because she's an avid listener of your podcast, Darling Shine.
Can you tell us a bit for those that don't
know your journey to get pregnant and eventually bringing Bobby
into the world.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, so we started our fertility journey back in twenty twenty.
We felt pregnant actually the first time, and went on
to have a miscourage at about five weeks, and it
kind of came as a shock to me because I
was in my twenties, and I thought, Oh, that's weird,
Like who does this happen to I knew my mom
and had one, but like it was very foreign, Like
I thought, you know, you have to be older to
(04:43):
have miscourages. No one speaks about this. This is weird,
Like I feel like it's only happening to me, And
then proceeded to then another four years on have another
four miscourages. We lost a set of twins about a
year and we ended up started going down the IVF
and the fertility doctor route because it was just not
(05:04):
really working for us naturally, and we did eight rounds
of IVF, three of them too, and then the rest
of them didn't work. Basically, what was happening inside my
uterus was every time I was having a miscarriage, the
way that my body was healing was healing with a
lot of scar tissue. So the more times I'd feel pregnant,
the more times it would take, the further along in
(05:25):
the pregnancy would come about. And then I would lose
the baby because they were in our mind. And this
is what I've kind of come to the conclusion is
that there wasn't enough blood circulation in my uterus for
the baby to grow any further because there was so
much scarring. Now, I saw so many doctors, a lot
of most of them were You're just unlucky, and I
(05:45):
was thinking, no, I'm not. This is not normal. It
can't be normal recurrent miscarriage for my age. You know,
when you're in the fertility trenches, you have to tick
all the boxes within yourself before you can kind of
move on to the next steps. We floated the idea
sorry to See quite a few times, but I just
wasn't ready to move to that step. I'm like, I
still need answers within myself. I had to really make
(06:08):
sure opened myself that i'd been like, I've done that,
I've ticked that box. If I wasn't doing the background researcher,
if I wasn't trying to work out what's going on,
you're not walking out of the doctor surgery and they're
not doing the research for you, like they're just not
not only a miscarrit going through a miscarriage, isolating and lonely.
But the fertility journey is also really isolating and lonely.
When you have no answers, you are literally pulling your
(06:31):
hair out, going what the hell is going on? And
I had this beautiful woman who lives in Queensland that
offered to be my surrogate and we found her through
the podcast actually, so we did the psych test, we
did the lawyer stuff like it literally went on six
to eight months process that we went through. Yeah, lots
of zoom interviews. We met her. Paul and I went
(06:53):
on our really really belated honeymoon like three years later,
to the Maldives after his IBS A season in twenty thirteen,
just literally just enjoyed each other. Witched off. We were
going home to Australia to meet the surrogate in person
and I hadn't physically I had the big document like
the agreement, but I hadn't physically signed it yet. I
was like, you know what, I'm just going to I
(07:14):
just feel like I feel better doing it with her
in person. And I was reading the document before I
went to this elective procedure and it says sustain from
intercourse for the two weeks in the lead up, and
I thought, well, broken that rule. So we were at
our honeymoon, but I was just like, you know what,
(07:34):
it would never like, it would just never. It's the
chances none. But I'm like, I'm not going to waste
my time and drive from Cool and Dadda to Surface
Paradise to see this document and they're going to make
me do this anyway, so I might as well do
one at home, did a pregnancy test Paul wasn't even
in the country and positive, and I was like, you're kidding.
So then we actually continued to go on the next
(07:56):
way to meet the surrogate and her husband to tell
them that she's no longer needed. And yeah, I mean
it was petrifying. The whole pregnancy with Bobby was really
really scary, of course, but we made it to the
end and it was and we've got her now and
it was just like the biggest blessing in the world.
I'm not sure if I'm grateful I got to labor,
(08:18):
because that is just a whole nother ball game.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Again, naturally naturally again, Yes.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, I think my body just must have like worked
out what to do. I don't know. I still still
to this day I don't really have like the full
on answer as to what the problem like really was.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It was almost with this stuff. I mean, we had
a couple of miscarriages as well, certainly nothing as as
long or as drawn out as yours. But I feel
like you almost get the sense that there's like, you know,
kind of like a mystery to all of this, which
kind of wants to stay a mystery. What a crazy story.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So happy for you guys, now, how good?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I know.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, look if everyone get a copy, Always you by
Chloe Fisher, out and out all good bookstores, Chloe, good
luck with the book, long much, good luck with the baby,
thanks so much for coming on the show, and relaxed
with good luck with the room service, whatever you choose,
so much
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Guys, I really appreciate it.
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