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October 29, 2025 • 30 mins
  • Board games as TV shows
  • Globird Switcheroo
  • Will takes on AI
  • Phone Alone
  • Celebrity Super Powers
  • Waging a war against time

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The Will M.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Woody Podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Well, I think the TV world is getting pretty desperate
because I heard today and I know this to be fact,
that Netflix have bought the rights to a board game
to turn it into a TV show.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
That's where the cash is these days, just.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Pre existing people love and then turning it into a TV.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Show's what the TV show the studio is about, really,
isn't it. I mean they've only seen the first episode,
but it actually is. Yes, they don't make a movie
about kool aid. They make a mockery of the fact
that this happens in Hollywood. It's actually happening.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
So a board game is going to be turned into
a Netflix TV show. Now, when I first saw the headline,
I was like, how could you possibly turn a board
game into a TV show?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
So I'd like to play.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
A little game that I like to call, which board
game a Netflix turn it into a TV show. So
the way it's gonna work, well, we're gonna give you
the board game and then a brief synopsis of what
the show is going to be about.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yeah, that's based on some I'm gonna be honest, just some.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I don't know if this is exact early days, how
long I had to guess minute and a half. Okay,
number one katan Oh settlers of Settlers of Katan. So
apparently this one can you do? This pretty similar to

(01:33):
the board game, as it will follow the journey of
competing settlements. That's kind of that's the bit. That'll be
a TV show about competing settlements. Yep, that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Number two. You could do that, well, you could lock
that into your answer mate.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Number two Guess Who, a murder mystery TV series where
each suspect shares a likeness to those on the board
game Guess Who.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Obviously it's always going to be early money on bill.
We all know money on Bill.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
It's been removed from all guest games Bill Boy. Did
he kill? You'll find out in the Netflix show called
Guess Who? As number two. Number three Hungry Hungry Hippos.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
It'll be a TV show that is based on some
murderous hippos that get the taste for human hungry hungry hippos.
That's number three, Number four, Connect four. So there's going
to be a movie that follows the journey of three
red discs looking for the fourth cost.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
How long is this going to take? Which one I
knew it's Kitano.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Now do you well?

Speaker 3 (02:48):
I mean personally, I like connects four, the little discs
walking around the world.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Where's the fourth guy we're trying to connect. I'd watch
it will I'd binge that.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, there's two people who look nothing alike. We are
somehow convinced that we can switch places.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Well, anybody is switcher root.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Life's better when you switch a root a glowbird energy.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
So the trick he was is that people can't notice
that we've swapped.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Obviously, we we kind of famously tried this in Figi
once and we did.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
We filmed ourselves doing it and it went viral.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
We're effectively at a floating bar in a Fiji resort.
One of us would be have a head above the
bar ordering a drink, and then every time the bartender
turned around with bob down and.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
The other person was in the water and they'd pop up.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Anyway, it worked at the floating bar in Figi, So
now we're putting it in other scenarios. And today we're
trying to pull the switcheroo on your three year old daughter.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
That's right, as you said before, stealing candy from a baby.
She's also sick. This morning, so you know, it really
was taking advantage of her, but vulnerable. At the end
of the day, the corporate responsibility comes before anything.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
And she gets that. She gets it.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
She gets it. So they put her in a very friendly,
vulnerable sort of a scenario, which is reading a story.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
You're her father, so she knows very well what you
look like. So again, this is going to be very
difficult to do. So I actually went to my costume
chest because yes, I've got one of them at home,
and I brought over effectively a full body cheshire cat Onesie.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
It doesn't fully cover the face, but if your head's down,
it kind of half covers the face.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
So you chucked that on. Yeah, that's right at first.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, and the great thing about three year olds is
why not read a book in a chest chat outfit?
Totally enough, that was actually the easy part.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Totally works.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
So then I was waiting in the bathroom in my jocks,
waiting for you to come up with an excuse as
to like, I need to go to the bathroom. Yes,
And the plan was you would walk to the bathroom,
I'd chuck on the cheshire cat outfit, yes, and then
I would come out as the cheshire cat pretending to
be you.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's right. So you'll hear a little bit of me
reading here, and then you'll hear me say that I
want to go to the bathroom, and then unfortunately I
should have probably counted for this. You will hear maxay,
I would also like to go to the bathroom, and
then chaos ins. You important to note that I am

(05:17):
also in the bathroom while this is happening, hiding in
the shower, attempting another switcheroo. All right, makes hook. I'm
wearing a costume to read your story. Come on, okay,
all right, cat, I am a stripe a cat, do
I nice? Jack and Jill went up the hill to

(05:39):
fetch a pail of water. Jack fell down and broke
his crown, and Jill came timling after. It doesn't make
any sense, does it. You're a fluffy cat. I'm a
fluffy cat.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
All right.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'm just gonna do a quick wie wee and then
I'll read the rest. Okay, give me two seconds. You
stay here regularly, that'll be easy. Okay, you stay here,
okay too, do you very? You have to canty ten

(06:23):
and then I will come back in the cat costume.
You ready coming down?

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Now?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Hey, MAXI movexy TAXI.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Seek cat, pussy Cat?

Speaker 6 (06:36):
Where have you been?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oh? MAXI move?

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Dispart I'm good at reading.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Now your dad, I'm putting a voice on because I'm
being the cat.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
I need to go to the toilet again. Daddy needs
to pop off.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
To the toilet.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Back in a second.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Maxim coming back, sweaty. Yeah me, Yeah, I'm here.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Sorry, Max, you want to have to put the kett
outfit on again.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I think she actually bought you.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Being me, I'm still not sure.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's almost like it's either gonna get It's one of
two ways. It's either she's bought it completely. I have
asked her about this since obviously Yeah, yeah, what she
say it was very hard to discern. I think she
was almost like she's actually said to me. She said,
you and Willie, you and Woody are silly billy. I
got so that cuts a number of ways. I think
she basically she was saying, didn't buy any of it.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, It's almost like she thought it was so unimpressive
that she was like, I'm not even gonna give you
a reaction to this.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
It's just what do I know? That's you?

Speaker 2 (07:50):
No reaction, now read me a story, and then I
think the reason that she got upset at the end
there was like, well, if you're leaving, where's dad?

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yes, I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and say that
wasn't a success. I'm gonna say that was a far Really, Yeah,
I am, And I think we need to think of
a new switcheroo to do tomorrow. And I'll tell you what,
if we can't pull a switch through on a three
year old, then I think we're in trouble.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
All right, the switch roo we'll be back tomorrow thanks
to Globy and we've got to see that edo the socials, Instagram,
TikTok woods.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
You know what the saddest thing about artificial intelligence as
well is that, mate, it's the fact that it's killing
conversation because you think about it. Fifteen years ago, if
you didn't know something, it was a great reason to
talk to a friend or like talk to someone in
the street and say, hey, do you know where this
milk bar is?

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Or hey, where do caterpillars go when it rains? You
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
This?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Like the thoughts now that we just instantly throw into chat,
GPT and Google, we used to have with people. So
will I just I want to bring you out of
the vortex of AI because you can't get your head
out of the screens.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Take me out. I can't.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
I can't, and I want to do a little thing.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Help me, please help.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Me that I like to call. Don't ask AI? Ask Will.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Why are you asking me?

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Because you and me we used.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
To have great conversations where I feel like, ten years ago,
I would always just ask you questions about things. But
now you've been usurped by chat GPT.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I'm cool with that.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Why I'm not.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
I like those chats that we used to have, and
I think you've got a real kick out of teaching
me things. Oh yeah, so what I'm doing in my
life now genuinely, and I plan on doing this a
lot on the radio show.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Before I go to chat GPT something or google something.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I stopped myself and I jot it down in my notes,
and I'm gonna ask you.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
So I went for a walk.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
It was early this morning, and I was walking through
some bush and I was like, oh, I'd.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Hate to get bitten by a snake.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
So I was about to google what time of day
to snakes generally attack stop myself.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Will Yeah, what time of day to snakes generally attack?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I would say probably when it's colder, when they're most
sluggish and they can't get away, which would be it
was cold.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
It was early morning, it was cold.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
But not too cold because they'd probably be in their
burrows too cold.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I say ten am, ten am most likely time. Now
we are fact checking you on this segment. We've got
Tommy the button pressure over there.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Who is on cha?

Speaker 4 (10:08):
We've got a fact check you will Tommy.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Chatty said that snakes don't typically attack humans unless they
feel threatened on cornered.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
About time of dam Well.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
There's nocturnal snakes, there's diurnal snakes, and.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
So the morning, the morning pretty kind of pick. They
can happen anytime. It's a tick, you know, absolutely no morning. Okay,
here we moving on. So I got some advice recent.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
The morning they're grumpy the morning, don't leg them up.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Morning works. So I shouldn't have gone for a walk
through the bush. I wish I knew that this morning. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, I can tell you how to treat a snake
bite as well, if you like.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I don't care, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
It only gets into the lymphatic system doesn't go into
you bloodstream. A lot of people confuse that lost me.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
You've lost me.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
So don't move if you get bitten. Wow, okay, So
don't move, contact help if it best can. As soon
as you move, it moves around you. Lymphatic system. That's
to the poison.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yell yep. Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
And then also, but when you wrap it, don't wrap
it too tight because you don't need to stop your
blood flow. You just need to stop your lymphatic system,
which sits outside your blood stream. Awesome, Okay. In AI,
that's the thing with me. Get you get the trimmings.
You get all the trimmings. I'll give you the facts,
and then i'll give you I'll give you a little
bit round the sight.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
It's been too human beings, conversation and edges.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, if you did get bitten exactly, the AI is
not gonna prompt you there because I about nocturnal diying
or and then who gives a ship exactly about who
gives a ship mate. I'm glad I came to you.
I'm glad I came to you. Also, don't get that
sort of gear on AI. That's just good gear. It's
just red hot.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Okay, next one. So I've had a bit of a
sore throat recently. Someone gave me some advice to gargle
salt water anyway.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
I loved it. I loved it. I was like, I
feel like I went for a dip, and.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Then I was about to google should I gargle salt
water every single morning? Stop myself, what do you reckon?
Do you think I should drinking? It's good to goggle
salt water every morning?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
And why can't be banned for you? I don't think
because I mean, you know, technically it's good for you.
But I mean there's a little savings saying in medicine
in which is just because a little bit of something
that's good doesn't mean a lot of something's better. Well,
I would just argue that if you're constantly cleansing your
throat through external means, that means you're not giving your
body a natural chance for its own flora and fauna

(12:13):
to fight off bacterial infection.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Let's check.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's not a bad answer.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Actually it sounds right.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
And I wish I could hear what I'm good.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
I wish I could do this.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Is what I'm good at? Right?

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Am I right, I know that this segment should be
fact checked. Will go, Really, what's what's a chey said?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Okay, so it's great for soothing sore throats, reducing bacteria,
or after after dental procedures. But yeah, you shouldn't do
it all the time otherwise it will disrupt your oral microbine.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
You said flora and fauna, which was weird, but microbyme,
same thing like your natural you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yeah, how do you mean, mate? I didn't need that.
I needed you, Okay, okay, one more.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, yeah, I kind of don't want to leave you
on a high. Okay, okay, So I genuinely so I've
been I used moisturizing cream my body when I'm feeling dry.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
This is not an expertise in mine.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
And then I went to the shops and I was like,
oh great, there's moisturizing cream. So I ran out and
then I got home and I was like, hang on
a second, this is moisturizing lotion. And I was about
to google what's the difference between moisturizing cream and moisturizing lotion?
M what is the difference between a cream and a lotion?
Because I don't know, looks the same. I reckon yep,

(13:26):
and obviously moisturizers given it says moisturizer at the start
of it, Yeah, cream or losh?

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Is there a difference?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Well, look, as I say before Woods, the snake bite
only goes into the lymphatic system, so you don't have
to wrap that time. But his phone alone, give us
call if you think you can convince this you're in
the car. Somebody else well along it.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
We decide through some stern questioning is someone else actually
there or you're just putting on a good voice. We've
got Dario here, Hi, Dario, Hi, Hello, boys, love the
s Thank you so much, Dario, appreciate that we love you.
We're also hoping to love the person that you are
in the car with.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Who is that Daria? Yeah, definite father Draco.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
But she does of speak English very well.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
She does understand a bit.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Okay, it's your mother father father.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Like Draco Malfoy. Yeah, Draco, it is awesome, okay, Georg
Chuck Raco on the phone. Hello, Hi Draco, Hi, Hi, uh.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
So Draco, where are you? And Dario off to uh
fishy fishy fishy? Okay, what are you hoping to catch.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Wish fish?

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Makes sense? That stupid question, obviously stupid question. What the
secret to catching fish? Draco?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
No understand, no understand?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Running around there?

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Are you going to be You're going to be fishing
off a peer or.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Maybe Draco, could you tell us beach speech?

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Beach speech? Okay, yeah, nice?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Maybe in Macedonian? Could you tell us what you're doing
this afternoon? There?

Speaker 3 (15:32):
You and can you sorry, hand the phone back to
Dario please, Daria, could you please translate that for us?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (15:38):
Boys, yeah, he just said that.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
He's like, well, fishing.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Cover the same ground, cover the same ground.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I I think it's it's it's good, it's pretty good.
I thought that when when Dario first hand the phone over,
I thought, in aged.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm hearing Dario in Draco.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, I mean our relied that's true. But I do
agree with you, Dario. It's a good performance. But we
do think you're in the car by yourself.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
And have a good fish, have a good fish. No,
I'm just coming back, Fabric. Well, it was nice to
meet You's got Kelly here, Hey, Kelly, Hi, how are
you good?

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Thanks? Kell? Who are you in the car with?

Speaker 5 (16:29):
I'm actually in the car with my mom.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
What's your mom's name, Judy?

Speaker 7 (16:34):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (16:35):
All right, check the phone under Judy.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Yeah, no worries.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Hello, how are you?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Oh? Hi, Judy? Sorry, you're on the hands free. Yes,
I am so you heard our chat with Kelly? Then? Hi,
jud nice. How do you feel about the fact that
there's a singer called machine Gun Kelly these days? Oh?

Speaker 6 (16:54):
I don't know him.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
No, I didn't think you would when were born. Do
you mind if I asked nineteen forty eighty.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Eight, what happened in nineteen forty eight? Anything notable outside
of your birth? Of course I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Good, that's a trick question. You shouldn't know because you're
only one or zero. What's the most embarrassing thing that
your daughter did through her childhood, Judy.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
That's far back.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Oh, come on, Judy, honestly, give us one story about
Kelly when she was little.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Probably she fell down the stairs.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Classic, it's a classic. It's a classic. I fell down
some stairs myself. Can you throw the phone back to
Kelly please? Yes?

Speaker 7 (17:39):
Hi?

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Can you remember falling down the stairs? Kelly?

Speaker 7 (17:43):
I do?

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Okay, I'm going to be honest.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I'm I'm hearing two different people for sure.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
If that, if that is a voice that is extraordinary,
that that's mine.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
It's also got the like there's no performance there, you
know it's it really does sound like a mum who's
been roped into a bit.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
As dismissing everything, doesn't want to be here, which really
she getsurprised, thinks of authenticity.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
Kelly, we think Judy is actually there?

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, of course she is, Judy. Did you hate that, Judy? No,
I actually enjoyed it. Oh god, there you go. Well,
thanks for playing, guys. You can have a double pass
to regretting you experience a second chance of first love.
Regretting you in Cinemas October twenty three. I think, thanks guys,
no worries, thanks for playing Kel. No, sorry, Kel. Wasn't

(18:33):
sad to know that the only memory your mum out
of you as a child was falling down the stairs.
It was actually it was a bit tragic. Wasn't it
give us any story? Anything?

Speaker 3 (18:44):
So she had anything else? Anything else come to mind, Judy?
Just before we go to the traffic, Oh, she used
to dance, she used to swim.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
It's pretty weak as well.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Woods recent talking to you about Janelle Money the actress
Rapper singer time Traveler, who said, yes exactly, She said
an interview with The Guardian The Chicken time travel.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
When I saw David Bowie, so I did. I traveled
back into the nineteen seventies and I saw him do
ZIGGI startus and the spiders from ours and it was incredible,
you traveled.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
I was sack.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, brilliant, brilliant.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Didn't go into what vessel or where's her craft or
really present any evidence, but I love that.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Now amazingly woods. I went online and I was like,
what other celebs I think they have superpowers? And I
was quickly to learn that a number of them do.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
You're kidding?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yes, no, I'm not kidding. And I'm also some of
them do not, but some of them do. And I
was like, jeez, do I believe them or do I not?
And then that reminded me of a game I like
to play with you. It's t all, He's y.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Stories. I'm not angry about this. I'm happy.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I know you are happy for you to you a
bet to take the framework of what is an unbelievable
game that we should play weekly?

Speaker 4 (20:14):
She'd be a weekly bit.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
You're best at three here. All right, let's just see
how we go. Okay, okay, so we'll see we go. Okay,
So do these do these people actually think they have
these powers or do they not?

Speaker 4 (20:28):
So it's not actually having it's just whether they believe
they have that.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yes, Okay, great, Okay. Drew Barrymore a Hollywood sweetheart. Yes,
but I mean she she's known for being quite spiritual.
Drew Barrymore. I would say that's kind of her. That's
a stick sure.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
I love drunk.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I love Drew as well.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
She seems great.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Drew Barrymore believes that she can speak to some of
the dolphins.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Near her home. M dolphins chat frequently.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Believe she talks to her dolphins.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
That's really interesting.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
That is interesting.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
That does that kind of that kind of fits question.
It doesn't fit too well.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I can't. I can't answer that for you. I can't
answer that for Is it too Drew? Is it is
it too much like Drew?

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Almost seems too little bit too Drew. I also know
that Drew Barrymore does not live near the ocean. She
lives in New York, So I know that he's incorrect.
She doesn't believe that.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Well done, very good. I actually don't know where she lives,
but for some reason, I thought, because of fifty first dates,
she might live in Hawaii near dolphins.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Great. Do you think she commutes for a daily TV?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
She have a house somewhere, you know, she house for
Florida whatever.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
She'd have a hold of her house. Yeah, yeah, okay
one Neil to man Okay, number two.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Here the actress Vanessa Hutchins.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
Yes of high school, high school, musical fame, great voice.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yes, yes, she believes to be a witch. Vanessa Hutchins
us she believes that she is a witch. Love six ferimenting. Yeah, now,
let me pick your potions.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Let me pick you apart here because you would never
have thought to bring up Vanessa Hutchins because you just
don't know who that is.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
So because of that, that is true. She believes that
she's a witch.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Maybe I've nah, I haven't well done, very good, I'm
picking you like she didn't know who Vanessa Urgents was.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
No, it was all over your face, mate, it was
all you.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Were like I thought you won American Idol. You were like.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Kelly Clarkson.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
No, no, no, Kelly Clarkson another season of Anyway we carry on.
Kate Hudson.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
The actress believes that she and her mother, Goldie Horn
Goldie Horn. You didn't know that Goldie Horn one of iconic,
But did you know her daughter was Kate Hudson. Yeah, yeah,
I think I told you that a very long time ago.
He didn't know. She's very famous actress from the seventies,
Goldie Horn. Dad just love Goldihorns. Kate Hudson and Goldie By.

(23:04):
Kate Hudson believes that her and her mum have clairvoyant abilities.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
Yeah, true, Yeah, I believe that.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
He's also.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
All over you.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
I'm on rights man.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
How many have you got there?

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Okay, we I've got one more, clean sweep, let's go.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
I've got one more.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Let's go clean.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Here we go. James Franco, Oh, James frank interesting, got
to bring up right on the line here, has said
that he can.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
Yeah, where are you going here? You're not going controversial,
are you?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I'm treading this is.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
Just a story. Now we better go to the Yeah,
let's go. No super bowers from him.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
If you've got a long to do list, if you
get stressed trying to do your to do list, if
you struggle in general with your time management, now is
a great time to listen because woods we've got a
brand new podcast called We'll Get to That. In the
last four episodes of We'll Get to That, we've been
trying to solve the problem of your relationship with time,

(24:20):
a podcast that swore, by the way, in the first episode,
to never do more than one episode on a topic.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
And I want to make it very clear, this is
definitely not a precedent if you don't like multiple parts
of the same topic. It's just that time is what
we found out that it's just so broad.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
It's a bit there, so vast, it's a bit there.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
It's just the universe is time. We effectively thought we
could wrap it up in one tight, little forty minute podcast.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Anyway, after four failure or three frailiures from you and me,
we finally invited a guy who specializes in time.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, that's right. And this isn't time in terms of
the universe, guys, this is a very practical sense of
time that we all struggle with. As I said before,
if you get stressed. And this guy's name's Oliver Berkman.
He wrote a book called four Thousand Weeks, very famous book,
which is basically how many how many weeks you have
in a human life, And it's about the fact that
it's ironic that some of us try so hard to

(25:12):
maximize our time here because we know that we've got
four thousand weeks to live that by doing that, we
then diminish the quality of actually enjoying our lives. So
it's an interesting paradox.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
And I'm honestly like you, I don't need to be
a deep person to have thought about this. Every single
one of you has woken up on Saturday morning and gone, Huh,
should I go for a run, or should I maybe
like write this thing that I've wanted to write for
a while, Or should I go and meet this friend for.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Com Maybe I should visit time with my family.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
It's a myriad of options that we have at literally
all the moments of every single day, and at some
point you have to make a decision.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
The question is which decision is best?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, that's right, that's it. That's right, And that's something
that we spoke about with Oliver in depth. So if
you want to go and get that and you're interested
in that, just search will get to that where you
get you podcast, you'll see the interview with Oliver Berkman there.
Otherwise I want to play you a little bit of
it now so you can hear just what he's like.
This question I asked him was about being stressed or

(26:11):
not liking life when you're trying to get things done
and how easily that you know, when you're running around
trying to get all your stuff done and you're immediately
irritable at it and that sucks. Yeah, But then the
other side of that is if you don't try and
get anything done, do you just become a bit airy fairy?
And should you go and live on a yoga retreat
and you know, not talk for a year? So I'll
take to well, I basically said to him, it's a

(26:34):
hard thing to balance, like, how do I actually get
through a life and get anything meaningful done without being stressed,
because it feels like that just comes with it.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
And this was his answer.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
It's a real sort of dilemma, right, because if you
just go all in on your goals that matter, it's
almost like you end up, by that very act, missing
out on a life that matters. And then some people
will say, well, therefore, you've just got to sort of
be present in the moment in a way that is
very sort of passive and floaty around and what I've
been trying to do, and it's just personal therapy on

(27:05):
some level, right, But the sort of guiding spirit on
some level of my everything I'm doing is can I
find a really serene and peaceful and non anxious place
from which to live and still be like ambitious in
a good way and do stuff and create things and
you know, ideally make money and all these kinds of
and travel around and all the things that I really

(27:28):
enjoy to do. It's like, is there a way of
avoiding these two extremes? And obviously in theory there is,
right in theory, the argument the idea is simply to
really enjoy the process of getting to goals that you
care about. Right, It's not there's no logical problem, it's
a psychological problem. I think you can see this as
a way to find that place that is both present

(27:49):
and relaxed in life and also working on goals that
you care about.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
It's a fascinating chat with a very very interesting guy.
If you want to hear all of this head along
to we'll get to that will and what he will
get to that wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
It's just worth a listen because it's just fascinating to
hear him talking about the thing that we all struggle
with every single day.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, that's right. One of the things that we ended
up talking about, which you're going to hear right now,
is this idea that when you have decided to do something,
that you've decided the wrong thing. So you know, when
you're in the middle of like should I do this,
you know, should I go and do some work or
do some exercise, or and then the trap of doing

(28:32):
something and then going like, oh my god, I made
the wrong decision.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Oh yeah, I hate right feeling, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, and then he ran through this well. I actually
brought up this example of what's called the worst case
scenario test, whereby if you feel anxious about the fact
that you've made the wrong decision, you can do this
very simple test with yourself where you're like, oh, this
is the wrong decision that I've made. What's the worst
case scenario there? And I'm not good at this one.

(28:58):
You're not good at this one, so worst case scenario
is pretty bad. Most people, when they do the worst
case scenariotis find themselves in a spot where they're like, oh,
that wasn't as bad as I thought it was. You know,
maybe this decision isn't there bad, but we're going to
pick it up from a point where you described where
you got to where you applied the worst case scenario
just of your life.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
I thinking of this with me and I ended up
in an apartment by myself and my wife had left
me and had a bad relationship.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
With my daughter.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
I just really spiral and I was like, I don't
think I did the exercise how I was supposed to.

Speaker 6 (29:29):
Well, except that, like nobody would say that it is
anything but really bad. But there's a really important distinction
between really really really bad and like life endingly catastrophic,
and it's a there's a very important right base there
to be like, Okay, that's the worst case, and I
would have the agency to take a next step if
I found myself in that situation. It's something like we

(29:52):
don't trust ourselves to have the inner resources to like
make a next step, even though we do that every
day of our lives.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
I I thought that was awesome from me. Again, if
you want to hear the full chat, just search. We'll
get to that wherever you get your podcasts, but got
a lot of strength from that, Like, you know, we
can often despair about the fact that we've made a
really bad choice and we've used our time badly. And
he was like, it's very as you guys just heard this.
There is such a big difference between like, oh, this
is a bit of a crap situation too, this is
impossible for me to get out of.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
That was really really interesting. So if you did end
up divorced and childless, yeah, you can still meet someone
new and have a new kid. Man.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, I still don't love that.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Just so we'll get to that wherever you get your podcasts.
I we're gonna hear the full chat with the time
Master Oliver Berkman. Honestly, I really struggle with time management
and he has been really cool and really really really
helpful in that. So go and have a listen and
check it all out.
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