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October 21, 2025 • 40 mins
  • Getting thrown under the bus
  • Battle Of The Gens
  • Eating out of the bin
  • An artist paints Will & Woody after only hearing their voices
  • Tony Armstrong

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The will M.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Woody podcast six five.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
As someone ratted you out and and what for is
obviously what I want to know.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's a shocking feeling.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Particularly, I would say was if it is in front
of the President of the United States and the global media.
Kevin rud is the ambassador to the US, so his
job is obviously to create good relations between the US
and Australia, representing Australia though making fight in the good
fight for Australia absolutely right. Albow yesterday flies over to

(00:37):
the States, finally gets his meeting with Trumpy.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
By the way, it's been frosty between Australia and the
US for a long time.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Famously, Trump he hung up on Turnbull when Turnbull was
in charge, literally didn't want to have anything to do
with him. You know, we all know that the tariff
thing's been going on. So Albow finally gets in the door,
sits down at the table with Trump, and I think
maybe that's part of why he rated out Kevin Rudd.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
There was a sense of like I think he was
just trying to like cozy up to Tray. If you
see any footage of it, it's just Elbow just trying
so hard to win the love of Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
He's very much like.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Those guys he's see in prison movies, just holding onto
the pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
That's a perfect example of what it is. It's just
perfect anything you want. So naturally he was very very happy,
very keen, very keen. The rat on Kevin seven, you've
got the audio.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Have you had any concerns with this administration?

Speaker 5 (01:26):
With the stance on things the ambassador said about you
in the past.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
He's strain investment.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I don't know anything about him.

Speaker 6 (01:31):
If you said bad, then maybe he'll like to apologize.
I don't know, don't tell me. Where is Yeah, you
said bad this position to prison. I don't like you either,
probably never will here.

Speaker 7 (01:50):
Albert, he's there, he's right now.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
He doesn't even take him now, he's there. Yeah, it's
always eily going through like a revolution or something. Yeah
and yeah, ready, I mean he just got and ruddy
as well. It's just his response is it's painfully you
talk this administration.

Speaker 7 (02:09):
I wanted to say that I don't like you.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Either, shut ah, have a shot all of it anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Thirty one and six five. I don't think that.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Was classic and also like I don't think Trump would
know that Rudd was the Prime Minister of Australia like
it is.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
It's that that is an.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Also extraordinary part of this, Like Elbow would have been
a backbencher I imagine during Rady's Prime ministership and all
of a sudden he's like, ah gone, so yeah, yeah,
go and watch that. It is brilliant and thirty one
and six five would love to hear from you guys,
write out mix on who ratted you out?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Albow has rated it out?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Ruddy, I've been ratted on. Yeah, that's what I'm after, man,
Do you take that?

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
As in, I didn't rat on someone. To make it
very clear, I'm not a squeal. No, No, someone rated on me.
You know That's what I want. I want to know
one and six five who rated it on you? Who
round you out?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
We'll tell you this callse right next. Let's got to
a sum here story as well. Woods involve the police.
Yeah wow, I'm a pretty good boy.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I mean it could have been anything.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Tully Sampson rated on me after I was weeing up
the urinal wall in prep.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Never forget for that and then get.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
It very high, though you could get it very high.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
And you were also saying it was great for Australian
economy to deal.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
We again a very surface level, but apparently we did
something for critical minerals. I don't know what a critical
mineral is, but great deal there, and people are saying.

Speaker 7 (03:29):
Good, that's my political political gear as well. Do a
little bit of political gear as well.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I think it was.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I think it's eight and a half billion is what
we agreed for them to buy rare earths as opposed
to critical minerals.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Critical minerals and rare earths. They're calling it critical minerals.
Let's go to me, Let's go to Nathan. You've just
gone for two synonyms for two words. Minerals are critical Nathan.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
One, we're talking about whether you've been ratted rated out
elbows rather out ruddy Nathan.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Where you at with that?

Speaker 8 (04:03):
Unfortunately I've been the ratter in this situation. I was
probably about ten or eleven, going to the shops, going
to the local woolies. Back then it was actually a safeway.
But anyway, my brother stamped on my foot and caused

(04:24):
this great big black bruisers obviously being oy just in
the supermarket with my songs on, and he told me
not to tell mom and dad, And unfortunately that was
not one that I could hide.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
You could have worn socks, you could have permanently had
socks on them.

Speaker 8 (04:42):
The bruise came up straight away and it was black,
and he was begging me. I was like he was
the one crying. I was like, I would, but I can't.
We duck got into the shops. We had a full
trip up ed and then we always go for fish
and ships to Talkie famous speech.

Speaker 7 (05:00):
So we knew he was going to talk for a
long time. When he mentioned that it was safeway back
to I got rated on.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Actually ended up where he used to get fish and kid.

Speaker 7 (05:14):
That's unbelievable. It's a great man, great man, Nathan.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I got ratted on, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Got Yeah, I was not the rat. I want to
make it very clear that I'm not a rat. So
I and I'm not. I don't I'm not proud of
this behavior.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
But effectively, there was one night when I was about
fifteen years old where I don't know what what came of,
like came over us, but it was just a group
of three guys and we were just like, let's just
run right through the streets, just just just like let's
just run riot.

Speaker 7 (05:40):
I don't even know that mint. So he ran through
the street, run.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Right as a thirteen year old before.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
He's just to release some testosterone or something. So we're
just running through the streets and I was knocking over mailboxes,
pulling plants out, and just causing a general run, just
being a very annoying right.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Anyway, the popo was called at one point, so so
we saw the police was honest, and it was like
truth or might let's get the hell out of here, right,
So running and running and as we're running away and
the police is behind us, is going right, guys, we
got to split up and all hide. Okay, but if anyone,
if anyone gets caught, do not give names, and do
not give the address of the house.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Okay to whatever you do anyways, run off. I hid
in some bushes. My mate Maldy, he gets caught by
the police. I shouldn't have said. So he gets caught
by the police, and within seconds he gave my full
name and my full address. As I'm hiding in a

(06:38):
bush overhearing the entire thing.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I couldn't believe it, did you say? No?

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I had to I had to stay hiding in the bush,
I couldn't get out. He was like, gave it all
and this is where he lives in it with all
his ideas. Junior producer Analysia in the studio, as you
try and find out which generation is most out of touch,
it's will and woodiest of the Okay, junior buser. Analyse

(07:11):
is a gen zeta. Woods is a millennial. Anlyse typified
by the fact that you were just checking yourself out
before you go on camera.

Speaker 9 (07:17):
Just checking making sure my hair looked good with the headphones.
Don't worry, guys, you can't see it, but it does.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Oh right now, Look, guys, a little bit of a
change of format this week, which largely just means Analyst
talks left, which I think is good for everyone. So
basically your complaints two categories that you guys are working with.
So for the millennials, Woods, you're going to be working
with nineties sitcom characters, know.

Speaker 7 (07:43):
Them all like the back of my hand, will Analyse.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
For the gen Zettas, you're going to be working with
popular YouTubers.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
Okay, just make.

Speaker 9 (07:51):
Sure that like my YouTubers, not your YouTubers.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
We didn't have our generation did not have YouTubers.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
We had people out doing impressive things would sometimes be
reflected on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, that is all just on televisions.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, to be a production company behind it, rather than
just some derelict filming themselves profile in their bedroom.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
All right, so here we go.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
Whack whack.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
So it's best of five.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
All right?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Sorry about your content's great though, especially like your schoolies content.

Speaker 9 (08:21):
Yeah, you can read my thirteen years.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
That's a strange thing to say.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Now let's get into it. So it's best of five,
particularly like yourls schoolies blog. It's still not good, but
it doesn't matter. We go, naszz it's best of five?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Okay, always right?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Is this a ninety sitcom character or is this a YouTuber?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
M Tim Taylor.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Woody nineties sitcom Tim Taylor was, of course on Home Improvement,
played by.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
You don't need to give it to me, but Tim Allen, great.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
Work, mate, shoe, don't get to account.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Here we go.

Speaker 7 (09:17):
I can count names?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Is Buzzes, Marth King, Mark rober Woody YouTuber correct, I
don't know who that dirty passion for facts and experiments
unintentionally funny as well and experiments.

Speaker 7 (09:31):
Do you think that's Algorithm's not her?

Speaker 6 (09:34):
Forehand.

Speaker 7 (09:35):
I like it will.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Names buzz Woods goes up to Woods goes up to love,
could could come in with the chuckies.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Now here we go. Just be a little bit fast,
right be there we go, got my visil in? Is
that what he's No, it doesn't. You can say your name,
Emma chamberlains.

Speaker 7 (10:04):
YouTube, Yes she is.

Speaker 10 (10:05):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
Wow, it's feel like you went as you said m She.

Speaker 9 (10:11):
Hosted the Vogue mcgarla red Carpet.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Bang bang Wow, okay two one wow you Okay, here.

Speaker 9 (10:17):
You go coffee brand to one Chamberlain coffee.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Shut up?

Speaker 7 (10:24):
How many copies of you for the record.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Rachel Green.

Speaker 9 (10:30):
Ninety sitcom from Friends.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Wow too all? Okay, here we going?

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Wow, she's.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
This is when it takes the point. Okay, you come
home with a wet sail.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Here.

Speaker 7 (10:42):
I'm under the stand up as well. I think the
standing ups helping her.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I think that given that it's too all, I'm not
going to go names as Buzzy. You have to say nine,
you have to say sitcom, or you have to say
YouTuber and it says it straight away, yes, because he'll
just pause for effect.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
No fair enough, okay, hit me.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
No names is buzzes here, it's just YouTuber or sitcom character.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Okay, here we go. Oh my god, what am I
gonna go for?

Speaker 5 (11:08):
I'm feeling the pressure to Okay, here we go, Ryan Trahann,
I barked you.

Speaker 7 (11:23):
I barked like a dog.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
And I barked like a dog.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Jennifer Lawrence is on The Graham Norton Show and she's
she's really stitched up a friend of hers by well
basically revealing that this person eats out of a bin.
And and it shocked me. I didn't pick this person
as a bin eater. But Robert Pattinson, Wow, does that
shock you that that he would he would dive a bin?

Speaker 8 (12:02):
No?

Speaker 7 (12:03):
Why? Why?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well, like I kind of increasingly finding out that he's
not like a Hollywood guy. You know, he appears to
shun Hollywood, despite the fact that he was like Twilight, Twilight,
they obviously put him on the map, and then I
reckon from there. He's steadily sort of descended into actors.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Actor.

Speaker 7 (12:21):
He did play Batman, which definitely put him back in,
but he did.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
He did his version of Batman like it was very
it was it was, it was, it was. It wasn't
a Hollywood Batman, he's in the lighthouse. I mean, that's strange,
weirdest thing he's seen that. Then he ates out of
a bin anyway.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
If don't need the order. This is Jennifer Lawrence on
Graham Norton revealing that he's.

Speaker 9 (12:41):
Like, you how many food?

Speaker 8 (12:43):
So hungry?

Speaker 2 (12:44):
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, come in, come in.

Speaker 8 (12:46):
And then he goes to the bathroom and I do
have food, but it's in the trash.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
And so while he was in the bathroom, I was
just like holding food out of my garbage. When he
was finished, he was like, I'm still.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Hungry as I'm are, and I'm like, all there is,
but it's in the garbage.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Also, quick mention strange that someone just rocks up to
your house and goes, I'm starving, Can you give me food?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Friends? Not if you're good friends, I'm cool with that.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Feels pretty presumptuous to rock up to someone's house and go, hey, here,
you going got any food?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'm alright with it, Like if you're hungry and if
they're a good friends. I'm confused though, So with this story,
she was saying, he rocks up and he goes, have
you got any food and she says yes, he goes
to the toilet, She gets the food out of the
bin and then but doesn't.

Speaker 7 (13:38):
Tell him, doesn't tell him it's out of the bing,
just goes, here's some food for you.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
So that, for me, is the issue.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
That dishonesty there from Jaylaw, that's wild. Yeah, don't you
think so?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Like if you came to my house and you're like
if you have any food and I was like yes,
I would just say no. I wouldn't say yes and
then get food out of the bins.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I'm a bin eater, so I would be like if
you said you didn't have food, then I found out
later you had fresh dinner in the bin, I'd be
furious if you didn't offer me that bin food. Right,
And clearly Arpats has a been eater because then when
she said we don't have any more food, but it
was like, great, give me bin food anyway.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
I'm just interested to ours.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I think most people though, like sorry, can I because
I think you are a little bit strange Like this,
if someone said that the food they gave you was
out of their bin, I was asking their producers. Outside
Generally speaking, you wouldn't be chafed with that right.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Probably not, hang on fresh dinner. The dinner has just finished.
I've just slid the leftovers in the bin. It'd delete
that top of the bin.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
Not if it's like a soup.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Sure, yeah, steak, probably right, it's top of bin.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
It's top, it's top bin.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I don't care if it's I don't care where it
is in the bin.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I just I just think, like I would just say
to them, hey, look, just so you know that's been
in the bin.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Sure, I think I think you've got a duty of care.
I don't like the line, but at the end of
the day, people lead out of the bin.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
No one could sue you if if they got ill
off that Oh god, well, it's negligent litigious nature, like
who invited the lawder to the party?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Negligent? It really is.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Anyway, I'm can to ask everyone else, thirteen one oh
sixty five is the number?

Speaker 7 (15:13):
What have you eaten out of a bin?

Speaker 1 (15:16):
And I guess within this scenario, like I mean, if
someone's fed you bin food as well, I'll take that call.
Like as someone fetched food for you out of the
bin and given it to you and did you eat it?
I think it's a really yuck, I said before, I've
done it, like so a bit of a go to
for me if i have something particularly delicious in the
fridge and I'm you know, I've got control self control issues,

(15:38):
and I'm like, I'm.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Going to eat that whole cake. I just know I'm
going to eat that whole cake. I'll bin it. Oh yeah, no,
well that's a thing. I mean I've done that with
other things before.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
So four hours later, I'm literally on my knees eating
carrot cake out of a bit.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Like that's your bin, which I think is different, sure,
like stranger's bin versus your bin, Like you know what's
in your bin?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
You know, fact it's out, Like we doing a street
bin here.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
Allow, I'll take a street bin call for sure.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I would eat.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
If I saw the person throw it in the bin,
then I would. I would essentially engage in a public bin.
Thirteen one oh six y five. Though, what have you
eaten out of the bin? Eats out of a bin? Well,
we were just picking this apart off the air, I reckon.
There's so many holes in that story. I can't have that.
There's just no way. There's a few things. First of all,

(16:31):
Rob Pattinson does not walk into a.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
House and go I'm hungry, feed me, seems rude, and
then immediately go to the toilet Like it's like two strikes.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
You don't go to someone's south good do you have fun?

Speaker 2 (16:41):
How close they are? But the only person I would
do that with is my mum and my partner.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
They're in a new film together. I'm hungry and I
need to go and do a poop. It's like, okay, well,
I don't know how close they are. But then the
second of all, if he is going to the toilet,
Jennifer Lawrence, isn't then just pulling food out of a
bin to feed him?

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, you be honest, or if you are, you'd be honest.
You go, hey, the food? You okay with that?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
It turns out he's totally fine with it, which is
totally wild.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
Let's go to Angus.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Here, good story though great jam Norton knows how to get.

Speaker 7 (17:08):
A great story. Angus. Hello, Hi, how old are you? Angus?

Speaker 11 (17:14):
I'm twelve?

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Twelve? Okay, this is for me. Peek been eating a
jokom I was twelve? Everything was fair game? What did
you eat out of a bin?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Mate?

Speaker 1 (17:24):
I got from the school canteen.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
Sorry, mate, go again a chicken burger? Oh okay? Interesting?
So was there a bite out of that chicken burger? Angus?

Speaker 8 (17:34):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Not really?

Speaker 7 (17:36):
What do you mean, not really?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Did you see the kid? Did you see the kid
throw it in? Angus?

Speaker 6 (17:39):
Like?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Are we talking?

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Was it a chicken burger at recess that you got
out at recess or what was the delay in between?

Speaker 8 (17:46):
Basically, my friend was done with it so here only
taking like one or two bites, so he chopped it
in the bin.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
Oh interesting.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
So my rule when over I was taking something out
of a bit which people had bitten, is you bite
from the other side, but you never cross over to
their bite.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Oh yeah, did you do that? Or did you knock
off the whole burger?

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Nice? Angers?

Speaker 7 (18:06):
I respect you.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Again, I I angers, I reckon.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
You're on the right side of the law here, because
if you see the person put it in the bin
and or it's your bin, very different.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Gettle of fish and knows the person. Yes, it's not
just a stranger, it's a friend.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Nathan's called when six five Nathan? What have you eaten
out of a bin? Nathan?

Speaker 10 (18:25):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (18:25):
Sorry? Hello?

Speaker 7 (18:26):
What do you hello? Mate? What if you are what
have you eaten out of a bin? Mate?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I haven't eaten anything out of a bin.

Speaker 10 (18:32):
I think it's absolutely absurd to take anything out.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Of a bin.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, really, hang on, Nathan, Nathan, Nathan, I've just made
a meal.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
What's your favorite meal? What's your favorite dinner?

Speaker 8 (18:43):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (18:43):
I love a bit lazagniel.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Okay, that's pretty sloppy, but okay, I'm going to go
with it anyway. Yeah, okay, I've just made an extraordinary lasagna. Okay,
I've just it's still hot. I have slid lasagna in
the top of the bin, top top of the bin.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
You knock on my door and say, hey, I'm hungry,
and I go, hey, there's some fresh lasagne.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
It's just in the top of my bin. Though, surely
you're eating that.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
No, I couldn't do it on the saday on the
same as name. It's your big table, it's your bin.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
It's do you know what I mean?

Speaker 12 (19:16):
As you said, as you said, it's sloppy, it could
slide down, it.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Could be anywhere.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Is a bad example.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
I got to be fit.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I mean, you know, Joe threw around suit before.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
You're not eaten soup out of a bit? Well, you
probably would if it was still in the ball.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Okay, Nicole On Thurday, when Nicole we're talking, what did
you eat out of a bin?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Tony Armstrong's right up next. Your dad ate something out
of a bin?

Speaker 11 (19:38):
Yes, it was my dad. He ate a half eaten
birthday cake from the park, So it was a park.
He's going to open the lid of the bin and
there's this this cake in there and eating it from
the bin, so not taking it out from the actual.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Bin, well like not his hands with his mouth, with.

Speaker 11 (20:03):
His hands, but like out of the bin. So he
didn't take it out and sit down, and he's actually
just been scooping it.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Why did it look good? What was the deal?

Speaker 11 (20:13):
I think so? But that doesn't waste anything. So anything
that drops on the floor, even if it's out in
the like on the pavement, he'll pick it up and
eat it. He doesn't waste anything.

Speaker 7 (20:23):
Off the pavement.

Speaker 11 (20:25):
Yes, even an ice cream. I dropped my ice cream
on the pavement straight out of the milk bar, and
he just picked it up and said, no, we're not
wasting that and eating it.

Speaker 7 (20:35):
I kind of want to test this guy.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I want to like follow him on the way to
work one day and just out of him to see
where his line is.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a line.

Speaker 11 (20:47):
If you're eating out of a park bin yeh?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Was he happy with it? Was he like hit the
spot sort of things? Did you eat the whole lot? Yeah?

Speaker 11 (20:55):
He did, It was like half eaten.

Speaker 7 (20:58):
But I looked take off her friend's leg once.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Tony Armstrong's up next.

Speaker 13 (21:06):
Will and Woodies task me anything get anything done with
Air Taska.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Alrighty, well, Joe, we've got Angelina sitting here in the studio.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
She's just wanted to eight thousand.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Dollars add on Airtaska that you and I put up.
It was do a portrait of us with only listening
to our voices.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
So she's got no idea what we look like.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
She's spent the last two hours in a room by
herself here at the radio station. She's currently blindfolded sitting
in the studio. Still doesn't know what.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
We look like.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
But Angelina, you have finished the painting.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yes, okay, so you and you definitely you had never
seen Will and I what we.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
Actually look like. No, I never even heard of you.

Speaker 12 (21:52):
Brilliant.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
That hurts a little bit, but brilliant, and so I
mean you listen to the entire show, because obviously you
were going off the radio show to figure out what
we look like.

Speaker 7 (22:03):
Good show?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Correct, yes, very good?

Speaker 7 (22:06):
Right, perfect, we had I had a lot of fun
listening to it.

Speaker 9 (22:09):
That was great.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
Okay, that's good, good feedback.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
So she was just like, that's been the worst two
hours of my life.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
Needles in my ears.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
So okay, so what we want to do first? You're
currently sitting here blindfolded. I thought a good first step
is for you to take that blind fold off, just
so you can see what we actually look like.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Okay, now wait, can I just ask you first?

Speaker 1 (22:39):
What do you think like vaguely we look like? You
can start with me the guide will the guy talking
right now?

Speaker 9 (22:47):
Well, I pictured that you like had a lot of.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
More masculine features, like more of a.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
Sharp jawline, a bit of a miss there.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I would say, he puts that voice on to hide
his in features, his dainty features.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, okay, and what about the other squirrely type?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
You know what, I don't want to know.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
I'm not here. That's just end. This has gone awfully
for me.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
What did you think of the other voice?

Speaker 9 (23:20):
I had no idea what kind of hair do you
I should have done on you?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
So just did you blonde? Okay, like a blonde shorts.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
In the blonde short hair for the rod Indy style
quaker voice, and then.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
Masculine features like like will or not?

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Really like that's it's not at all?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Wow, Wow, that is extraordinary. No, it's not.

Speaker 7 (23:45):
What a massive miss.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
What an experiment though, because it was this really difficult
because I just don't even know where I would start,
like what, because I mean, the question is does a
person's voice ever look like how they look?

Speaker 9 (23:59):
I would say no, but like, it was really hard
doing it.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I had to start with a sketch first before actually
doing the painting.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
So then did it change at all?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Like, were you like then thirty minutes in and I
said something particularly masculine and you were like, oh, better
put a beard on him?

Speaker 10 (24:14):
Well?

Speaker 7 (24:15):
I was actually scrowing for some of the podcasts trying
to find some hints, but I didn't end up finding any.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Oh that was cheating, I tried. That was very much cheating.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Okay, well, look, why don't we take your blindfold off
first and then we'll go to a.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Song and we can never look at the painting after that. Okay, Angelina,
you can take off your blind fault.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Oh wow, so that's Will Hello, Hello, Hey, and so
I'm woody.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Wow. Okay, you definitely do not look that younger like.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
A child that I thought.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
Sorry, you painted me as a child.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
No, not really, Let's go to Angelina.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Spent the last three hours trying to paint uspaced only
on the sounds of our voices. Okay, the painting, I
believe is in the studio. It is what you told
us before the song which has got me particularly concerned.
Is that I mean, I mean effectively you said, I
said like you thought i'd looked like a twelve year
old boy. I didn't say exactly a twelve year old boy,

(25:17):
he alluded to it, whereas Will over there apparently look
like a very masculine I'm imagining I'm imagining Gaston from
Beauty and the Beast.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
Is that what you were picturing Gaston from Beauty in
the bas Well?

Speaker 2 (25:30):
That's I think that's Is that how I sound?

Speaker 9 (25:34):
I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I just pictured a bearded man with.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
A bearded man with great gray hairs, old man, is
what I.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Adams. Over here, we've got an eight year old.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Okay, look Okay, so you've seen us. Now do we
look anything like the painting? Do you think in your mind?

Speaker 9 (26:00):
I would say no.

Speaker 7 (26:03):
Do you think you've been flattering to us? Or do
you think you've been harsh?

Speaker 9 (26:07):
I would say flattering in a way.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Or you've been flattering to us?

Speaker 7 (26:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:15):
What about us?

Speaker 9 (26:18):
I definitely got Woody wrong.

Speaker 10 (26:19):
I'm just saying, Will, I think I was just about
right except for the hair color.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
Okay, so you thought he was older? It just sounds
a bit old and weathered.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, an old piece of rope.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, I want to I think people can say his
instagram TikTok Will and wood if you want to get
ahead and actually have a look at what the photo
looks like.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
This is a strange thing to do, but I'm ready, Woods.

Speaker 12 (26:40):
I'm ready as well. Three two one. Looking at the painting, Wow.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I look like a young Bradley Cooper looks beautiful, right,
like a young Girl're so just small.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
You're a lot smaller than me.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
Did you Did you think I was just going to
be a very small statuted person.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Have you just been looking at a photo of pedro pescal?

Speaker 4 (27:06):
For me?

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Is that you did?

Speaker 7 (27:11):
You've got Will's beard right, which is interesting.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
So Will w Will is this stunningly handsome man who's
got like a very nice with a lot of beautiful,
luscious hair.

Speaker 7 (27:24):
Look at that you that you sound like you've got hair? Yes,
last year, no hair?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Now now I said different with the hair.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
I think you just always sounded like someone with hair,
Do you know what I mean? In a good way.
I've always matches the dude.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can focus on me for
a second. I kind of look like a small circus
performer is like, yeah, maybe an apology would be nice.

Speaker 9 (27:55):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
To stand out.

Speaker 7 (28:03):
We were live live, and he's very worried about it.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
We're live live.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Tony Armstrong's in the city over run.

Speaker 7 (28:09):
Hello, have you here?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Man? How you going? Have you ever been live before?

Speaker 8 (28:12):
What?

Speaker 10 (28:15):
I'm trying to wig you guys out? But you guys
are you guys are unwiggable out?

Speaker 7 (28:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (28:21):
You.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
On the other hand, when you used to be live
on ABC News, Tony, I mean there was there's one
slip that comes to mind, which we always play for you.

Speaker 10 (28:29):
Pain has a bulging dick that has been disc that
has been that's a funny one has been causing him pain.
Going to throw to you very quickly, Michael. No, thanks, guys,
it's been good and we'll take a break. How long, like,
in all seriousness, how long do you reckon till till
I can get on somewhere without that being a thing?

(28:51):
Genuine I still think it's funny or do you think
it's like the next dumb crap I do?

Speaker 7 (28:57):
Because you need to.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Do something that's going to trumpet.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
It's a big kick back.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
You got you gotta you gotta do a new gaff
and a new gaf to get away from that one.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
Unfortunately, and we are live. It's not show already, We're
going to break.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, don't you do it on someone else's show. You
do it on your own show.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Tonight is Endgame premiere eight thirty tonight on the ABC.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Mate.

Speaker 13 (29:26):
This is a bit of a gear switch, it is, right,
it's a huge gear switch because this is something that
I know is super close to your heart in all
sorts of ways.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
So it's a three part series tackling racism in sport
with the help of global superstars.

Speaker 10 (29:45):
Yeah, I mean it is a serious gear switch. We
were being quite soup before, but yeah, it is. It
is quite serious content and kind of like it felt
kind of weird being so serious for so long, but
it was like I found it really, Like I'm quite
cynical when it comes to that stuff just given my experiences.

(30:05):
This is I guess with racism and stuff, but coming
out of it the other end.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
So is that when you were playing footy, so for me, I.

Speaker 10 (30:14):
Copped it less and like this isn't to be like wow,
is mean to get a complient Like when I played footy,
I sucked ass, so like no, like I was so bad,
like like no one knew who I was sure, so
like I didn't cop it now, but now when I'm
on like I've got Telly and all that, people actually
have someone to have a crack at.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
For me, most of my experience.

Speaker 10 (30:36):
Of like overt sort of public racism has been through
Telly and radio, but before that was just on the streets.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
But anyway, but anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (30:46):
The purpose of this was to be like, Okay, we're
sick of this being like woe is us? Racism sucks
because either you know that by now and you're with this,
or you don't and you can take a long walk
off the world's shortest plank. Like so, so we're not
talking to you. If you don't get it, this is
for the people who accept it. And now let's get

(31:07):
some solutions. And we thought what better sort of trojan
horse than sport to talk to Australia through. Yeah, because
you know, we all, I mean we trust, we trust
Pat Commons with everything.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
She can do anything she wants. I trust her, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
They get a they get a pass for anything if
you're good at sport. Yeah, it's accessible for everyone. They've
got the nation's respect already, don't they. Okay, we're listening
to you.

Speaker 10 (31:34):
So yeah, yeah, not true and so and so with
that in mind, we went overseas and we went and
looked at.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
You've spoken to some really good people here.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
I'm just having Ferdinand, Michael Folding. Yeah, I mean I
just shut my eyes.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
John barn from Liverpool summer you know cricket that's crazy. Yeah,
so some really big so I people don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Michael Hollywood was a famous West Indies bowler during the
time of when the West Indies where real powerhouse. Adam
Goods obviously he spoke to Ria. Ferdinand is also a
black British soccer player Captain England and he's one of
the best one was probably the best defender in the
world for his time. It's bout down to John Barnes,

(32:16):
who played for Liverpool as well also are great there.

Speaker 10 (32:19):
For those listening, I would urge you to look up
a photo of John Barnes. So someone piffed a banana
at him when he's playing, and there's his photo of
him like back healing the banana and the banana's.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Just bouncing off his boot.

Speaker 7 (32:31):
Like so that's amazing.

Speaker 10 (32:33):
He's kicked the wonder goal for England, like yeah. So
it was just it was just it was just crazy
getting to talk to them. But I guess I went
in cynical and I came out hopeful because racism looks, walks, talks,
feels the same every but they're doing stuff about it
that we aren't yet interesting and it's working. So it's like, okay,

(32:53):
if we can just like I get Yeah, it's kind
of weird saying it made me hopeful that racism felt
the aim everywhere, but yeah, because it did coming back here,
I'm like, oh, nearly sure, Oh we've.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Got it, like like we've got a chance, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
So so I'm really what I really am really interested
to say We've got to go to a song, Pep,
we cann't see. Endgame premiere is eight thirty tonight on
ABC TV. Whether you think that's a cultural thing Australia,
whether it's a changeable thing, thinking you are, as my
daughter would say, a bit of a silly billy.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Like you really are? You love it?

Speaker 4 (33:26):
But this is if you're listening, I take offense, but
you are.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
But this is a topic that you were just saying, Oh,
their like when you're in it, you're like, whoa this is?

Speaker 2 (33:37):
This is intense, like and it's intense all over the
world if you're just joining us.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
We're talking people who are the stars of their sport globally.
So Michael Holding was probably considered the best cricketer in
the world, reofferred to and probably the best soccer player
in the world, one of them playing in the Premier League,
one of them playing for the West Indies, all the
way down, all across the world the same issue and
then reapplying it to Australia. How do you expect the
criticism of racism in Australia to be received by the

(34:02):
average fan here?

Speaker 10 (34:03):
Well, look, no one likes being told that they're racist.
I think we've all either either seen it or been
part of it. When you're when you're like calling someone
out or that kind of thing, it's it's it's one
of those things where people tend to get their back up,
you know, they get not me.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
No, I've got plenty of black friends, which is classic.

Speaker 10 (34:26):
But in all seriousness, I think the thing, the thing
that I noticed the most was, even though it's really heinous,
some of the stuff that we see overseas, like.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
I would I would suggest maybe.

Speaker 10 (34:40):
With like a you know, like a like a temperature
test without actually having the hard data over the fence,
the stuff you might hear in the States and in
the U and in the UK, it might be what
you would deem worse, maybe a bit more raw.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
However, they except they've got a problem.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (34:59):
Interesting, So here we don't like, we still got hate
our goods, footy, we've got multiculture around, we've got indigenous Hey,
we're moving it along. I would then suggest to you
have a look at the AFL executive. Taniel Hosh was
made redundant. She was before you even get to the
flags to the fact she was an Indigenous woman. On

(35:20):
the AFL executive. She was in charge of Diversity and Inclusion.
She was made redundant halfway through this year. Wow, we
only needed to see the homophobia that at Ugly Head
to see that we aren't on top of it, you know,
and sure like like you know, we want to think
we're better than we are and we've got pride round
we've got and I'm speaking very specifically from an AFL

(35:43):
context he given, given where we are, but it's like
sport is so agnostic.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Here in Australia.

Speaker 10 (35:50):
Yeah, it doesn't really stand for much, like it's got
its rounds, but there I feel like they're more.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I feel and that is a big danger that we
found as well. It's like.

Speaker 10 (36:04):
The tokenism actually can take away from like the real
work that needs to.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Be done right, So because people feel like we're doing
the work already, we're doing the work, we've got.

Speaker 10 (36:12):
The round And like, I think that's where you see
that conversation over in the US getting really bad around
DEI because they're like, well, you know, these people don't
deserve to be in these positions blah blah blah. And
quite often that argument is moot. But sometimes organizations do
put people on a board or on an exec that

(36:35):
are toothless tigers.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
They don't know how.

Speaker 10 (36:37):
To deal with with those situations, so they end up
getting walked entirely over and actually they end up being
more harm than good. So so like I mean far
out we could literally yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
You've done a three part series on it tonight exactly.

Speaker 10 (36:54):
I would urge urge people who have any interest in
this or feel or feel very in their ways to
just have a look at it and like it's not
it's not going to be whoe is us? Like that's
we set it up pretty heavily, like it's a bit
of a gut punch in the first maybe fifteen minutes.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
And that just sets the scene of where we're at.

Speaker 10 (37:12):
Yeah, but then it's like right that, now now you
know where we are, let's go try to solve it.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
So solutions focus on racism.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Guys, you're welcome that I saw.

Speaker 7 (37:28):
Australia here you can look.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
No thanks, I saw what happened to Goodsy No thanks.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah. Hey.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
So in terms of solutions, though, Tony, like what what like,
just give me one thing from overseas that you saw
that you were like wow.

Speaker 10 (37:44):
Okay, So so something that I found really interesting was
in the UK in particular.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
So they so they.

Speaker 10 (37:51):
Fully like follow up through to like like a legal
sanction with someone. So so say I've been racist over
the fence to someone, bang Tony Armstrong could be found
guilty of racism.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Blah blahlah blah blah.

Speaker 10 (38:03):
Yeah, but the thing that that supporter cares more about
is actually being sanctioned by their sporting club.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Yeah. Kick, So they're.

Speaker 10 (38:13):
Worried about what's going to happen to them from Chelsea's perspective,
less so than walking around the streets being labeled and racist.
So when you think about that, who's got the power
the club?

Speaker 4 (38:24):
So if you, if you guys.

Speaker 10 (38:27):
Would have ostracized me from my group because of my behavior,
Like we've all seen it in our day to day lives,
Like you know, you have a mate and you call
them out on like you know, some archaic crap that
comes out of their mouth and they adjust their behavior
because they.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Want to still be part of the group.

Speaker 10 (38:43):
Of course, that's what that's the power of the clubs
really have and I think that's something that can be
applied stronger here in Australia.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Well if at all.

Speaker 10 (38:53):
Yeah, exactly, Like I think I think we sometimes see
the sanctions happen, but I think I think, I think
we can do a better, better job and really like
you know, I mean I was just about to say,
like the AFL tribunal system but far out you need
to be Isaac Newton and worked that out, like maybe,

(39:16):
but yeah, like you know something where there's like I
don't know, like like you know what's going to happen
to someone if they behave in a certain way and
that's and and that's a deterrent. And then you know
you're coming at people with not just one silver bullet.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
There's also the education.

Speaker 10 (39:31):
And one thing Rio Ferdinand said, he goes, we've lost
our generation.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
We're gone, like like.

Speaker 10 (39:36):
The ones the ones who are on our side or
on our side, the ones who aren't, you know, good
luck to them, but we might be able to get them.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Through their kids.

Speaker 10 (39:43):
Wouldn't get their kids to talk up generations? You know
you can, maybe you can maybe shift you can.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Right, you're getting wrapped up.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
I'm calling the breaks black and white. Michael Jackson up next, it's.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
The camera after.

Speaker 7 (40:02):
We shouldn't have put him my live. We shouldn't have
put him my life.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
He was doing so well, he was doing so well,
lost all privileges.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Hey, Tony, I'm strong so.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
Much for having me never again, never again.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
I'm telling you that that's a lie. Tony, I'm strong
and Melimorney. Check out Endgame.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
It is eight thirty tonight on the ABC team that
you can get it on IVW.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
And thank you so much for coming in.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
It is serious work.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
It is
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