May 29, 2025 • 40 mins
- Is it ok to laugh at your kids when you maybe shouldn’t?
- What possessions are red flags?
- Laura Henshaw talks to us about the “menosphere” and online misogyny
- Will reveals the last time he cried in front of someone
- Are you a proud a coward?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
The Will and Woody podcast Will pretty poor fatherhood on
my part recently bad daddy.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So basically you were involved, Can I just say as well?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
And I just think I wasn't. I was an accessory.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
As my wise mate. I just wish you pulled me
into line here because I've embarrassed myself and done the
one thing you should never do as a father. So
where I was at the park with you, your daughter
was there?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Was it your daughter's party?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, exactly was.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
She was there, of course.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Party and all the kids decided to do a race
they were doing, like a running race.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Did they decide to do a race that was running around?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, but I think naturally when kids start running, it
becomes a bit of a race where they, you know,
test each other out.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Who's the fastest.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So you just see these kids from the back of
the playground. They come out of nowhere and they are
just tearing. They can't believe how quick they're going. Anyway,
all the kids had gone past, and we kind of
went back to our beverages and started talking, and then
all of a sudden, out of nowhere. About a minute
later comes my beautiful daughter, Remy, who is going so
(01:24):
incredibly slow. It's like the kids have forgotten about it.
They've moved on to other activities. And there's Remy head down,
just pumping the arms.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
She's so far behind.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
And as as she was running, she was those's either
running up hill or into a fifty k in our.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Headwind YEP, that can confirm there was no wind.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
She just and but the effort was the effort was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
She was going for it and it led to this
huge laugh from all the parents.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So every single parent and it's just had the shoes
with the lights on them as well.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
At step of foot would light up.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, then you and then as dad there I fell
for it as well. I am pissing myself laughing at
how funny the whole thing is. And I just had
this moment where I was like, ah, she's doing something
a little bit embarrassing and whilst this is funny, like
you have to admit that this is I think as
a parent there's sometimes where you're like, ah, I shouldn't
(02:23):
be laughing at you right now.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
It's interesting that you raised this because and by the way,
thirteen one oh six', five if you've laughed at your
kid when you shouldn't. HAVE i think it's interesting you
raised this because you literally brought up the other week
about you, know when do you tell your children the hard,
truths like when you're going to tell your daughter that
she's bloody?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Slow, no, no it's.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Funny AND i was, LIKE i Think i'll be someone
who'll be able to have that. Conversation, YEAH i realized
on the weekend there's no. Way AFTER i laughed at
her face for a, WHILE i got right around AND i.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Was, like you are moving like the. Wind, yeah, yeah, Right.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
YEAH i find myself laughing at her a, lot, actually
though at inappropriate. Time so she's just started doing dancing.
Classes oh cute as, well, lovely, right except the teacher always,
says point point your, toes, right so it's a, ballet
and so point your toes And remy points at her toes.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
The whole.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Point laughing at, it which again is, like don't laugh
at your daughter when she does something. Embarrassing, yeah, yeah another.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
One because you don't want.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
To you want, them you want to get around, them
you want them to feel like they can do silly
things in front of you without being laughed.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
At you also don't want to condone bad behavior as.
Well so where just starting and have conversations around because
she's she's seeing me And mum. Naked, ye just trying
to understand, like, okay Wise dad got that thing between
his legs and Wise mum got.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
That so it's like that's the, vagina that's a, Penis
like you start to have.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
That but what's not funny or WHAT i shouldn't be
laughing at is when she Sees, nanny which is MIM's,
mum and Says nanny has a. Penis, Yeah And i've
laughed at that a number of, times and that's that's poor.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Behavior well actually funnily, Enough So, max my, daughter was
staying at mum And dad's place recently and down the,
BEACH i Think dad just got out of the out
of the water and he was getting changed And max
walked up to him and said she got him, dark
and in front of my mum and another one of
(04:25):
my siblings, said, oh does got a tony?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Penis there you, go which and, yeah you can't, laugh
which it's obviously.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Hilary hard not to. Laugh dad hasn't. Surfaced he's so.
Mortified that's.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Tough he's never he'll never get undressed.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Again going back from, that thirteen one six five is that?
Number when did?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
You when did you laugh at your kids when you
really shouldn't? Have, so for, example when my daughter was
trying to pronounce dinosaur for a long time and she
pronounced it asshole, WHAT i don't. Know she was definitely
referring to, dinosaurs but she was, saying, ah, Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And when you're finding that, funny what? Happens you going
to keep doing? It he. Does so we're in the supermarket,
saying where's the?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Assook i'm gonna stop saying that works the snaughty would
but it's just a.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Mistake so, yeah we GOT.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I find it particularly hard with your partner as, Well
like if they're laughing at your partner and you know
you don't want, it you can. Don't, yes we mentioned
before it Was max's birthday last, weekend And sam spent
a lot of time researching your present For. Max, yes
spent a lot of, time you. Know so she ended
up getting there with this, magnet like this giant. Magnet oh,
YEAH i think that she Makes it's like blocks with magnets,
(05:40):
Anyway i've seen.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Them they look.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Great oh they're.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Great.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah max opens the.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Presents first present she opens it is the biggest box as,
well so she opens it, up takes one look at,
it and then she, goes this is for my. MUMMY
i then gave it straight Factor sam right across.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
The, table WHICH i thought was.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Great did you laugh, obviously, Yeah AND i thought that
was very funny as.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well of course it's good.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Gear at the end of the daw you can't give
to present straight back To.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Maddie, hi, guys, hello now matter you're a. BABYSITTER i.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Am i've been babysitting for a long time, now And
i've never heard something so hilarious come out of a kid's.
Mouth but it's it's quite. Sweet at the same, time
this two year OLD i look, after He's i've taken
him to this indoor playground and he starts saying WHAT
i think is dump, truck but as you could, imagine
it's coming out as dumb and then And i'm, going
(06:39):
oh my, gosh what are you? Saying and he repeats
it again And i'm, like oh my. GOSH i start.
Laughing and now BECAUSE i. Laugh you know now.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's good, Gear.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Maddie we've got t shoes coiled on thirty and WHEN
i six, five teaches is your?
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Son, yes, yes he was two at the. Time he's twenty.
Now but we were at a family gathering at my
unie's place and her father in law was there and
unfortunately her father in law lost her. Legs, sorry he's
standing there any shorts one leg, crutches and my son
(07:18):
walks over in front of everyone and, says, hey where's your.
Leg we all have a bit of a. Chuckle he's,
two but then he proceeds to walk underneath, him look
up his shorts leg and, says, yep, nope it's not.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
There.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Wow and of course we all cracked, up and.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Yeah he thought it was. Hilarious so we kept bringing
the attention back to this man with a missing.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Leg, yeah, yeah you can't laugh. THERE i apologize for.
Love sorry the look.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Up nothing to say.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
That we actually We're the other, morning we had an
interview over at my place in the.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Morning we interviewed was It Lady, Gaga Chris, Pratt, Millie Bobby, BROWN.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
A few of, you just a few of the, names
just a few of the names that cycled through the
show recently get him on the.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Podcast could have Been.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Rhianna, Yeah i'm not sure, her or biber or it
was one of those. Names, Anyway you And juni producer
analysts came around in the.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Morning it was pretty early in the, morning so my
daughter was. Naked she kind of rolls around in these.
Days she's just on the bottom. Half she had A t.
Shirt but just from.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
There, AFTER i like that look.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Anyway so so she was sitting on the rug and
THEN i don't know what's going on at the, moment
but she got a bit of a fascination with.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It, Anyway so you and analyst, said By max, later, well,
ses she offered me a. Tea she, said do.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
You make you a cup of tea hospitality service at my?
Place and then while you were, talking just did the
double hand as straight in The notorious Vag. Yeah, yeah,
Yeah and she was offering me tea, yeah which you,
know obviously you and analyst thought was very.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Funny well you have to. Laugh it's just there's nothing
you can do there but. Laugh let's go To. Sue
so this was your. Son, yeah you had a laugh
and probably.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
Should, yeah probably shouldn't. Have but, yeah my husband AND
i were shopping in a bathroom renault store On Paramatta
road AND i was off looking at basins and, tapware
AND i turn around to my husband calling my name
loudly across the display floor with my son over his
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shoulder with his ass cheeks hanging. Out, basically he had
said that my son had been in the display toilet
in the front display window at the lights On Paramatta
road doing a poo in one of the toilets because
he was being potty, trained and he was very proud of.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Himself possessions that are red flags to. You red you
had a great moment. YESTERDAY im going to play it
again for those that missed.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
IT i don't plate.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
It well Now i'm gonna play.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
It BUT i actually know that much of an issue because
he's a bird, person hence a freak by.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
It there was a, bird SO i had a.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Bird, yes immediately she's got Their. SARAH i just love.
That more than three.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Cats gotta be a red, FLAG i, think to be,
HONEST i can multiple pets as a red.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Flag oh just what have you got to hang?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
On different different breeds, though as in like if you've
got hamsters and you've got.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Dogs it's a bit of a red, flake you know
when they're kind of like up running a farm but
they live in the. City like if you're a bit
of farm, fine but you know when they are when
there are more pets than, appliance.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Is THAT i start to get a little bit. Weird,
yeah fair cool collecting?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Them, yes for, YOU a plumbed gas, Barbecue i've got
that all. RIGHT i was going to, say especially if
they're using the barbecue before eight o'clock in the.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
MORNING i barbecue every, morning you know that way to.
Cook let's go To.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Jamie, here whos on the bar the?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Morning?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Mate? Jamie what possessions are a Red? Jamie, hey, GUYS.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I would definitely have to, say.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
M What's mira cosplay?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Uniform?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Jamie, yeah like that sailor moon outfit that you had. Woods,
YES i did have, that So. Jamie have you have
you experienced?
Speaker 8 (11:28):
That?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Jamie you've gone to someone's.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
House, unfortunately and it was quite, so.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So, jamie without going into it too, much it was
their desire for you to slip that.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
On, no it was their desire to. Themselves love.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
His own backyard, there he's just going with his own.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Thing she.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Lava lamp. Woods what do you say with lava? LAMPS
i have a flag for, mine.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
SO i said to, HIM i wanted TO i wanted
to buy a lava lamp only a few weeks. Ago
did you do Your, No i'm not pitching it hard to,
me mim, said.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Not a Good it's just got a bit of a
brothel vibe to. It that kind of LIKE i think
that kind of like funky colored.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Lighting just always a bit of a.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, okay what about what about trophies on display from
like teenageld?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Trophies big? Flag, yeah big big.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Flag So i've got them in a. Basement where does that?
Sit don't answer, That let's go To. Lauren lauren red flag.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Possessions it's any male that?
Speaker 9 (12:28):
ORANGE i bee?
Speaker 8 (12:29):
Fridge, yeah beer.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
FRIDGE i mean it was, cool it was. Cool was
it ever?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
COOL i think in the, day as a young man
in a, sharehouse that was a pretty cool thing to
say that you.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Had, yeah for, SURE i had a beer fridge, outdoors, Though,
LAUREN i don't think you're not including.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That it used to be a real chick magnet the beer. Fridge.
Lauren has that?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Changed oh, yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Definitely you can chuck a fizzor in.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
There if you.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Want i'm now that we're in this now that we're
in this, area foosball, Table.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh big red, flag.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Red F you wanna have a quick, game, Mate you
want to have a quick?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Game post F. Hm posters on the walls or just
posters on the walls of like elite, athletes or you,
know put some art up. There let's go to we
all got a bit high, brow got a bit high.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
Brows what about one of those little basketball hoops that's
got those little suction cups under the wall just above
the been, there particularly if they call it When.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Kobe red more than more than four towels Things i've.
Owned by the, way.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Do you know when you're walking his own, bathrooms it's
like four towels like? Four, yeah what do you mean
that's a red flag? For you've got four towels in
rotation like ones over the, shower things on the, hook
one on the FLOR i don't, know red flag from.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It let's go to layam bowler. Hat that's, cool, sorry.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Doubt what's the red flag for?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
You?
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Mate the reddest of the red. Mate you walk into
someone's house and they got live laugh.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Love There god in neon in a neon, sign a
pink neon.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Sign, yeah Good, god good, stuff leaving yourself a will
And woody mugg for that one live prop these ones
when they've got live love laugh actually inscribed on the
back of Him lord Of henshaw's in the, studio which
is bloody awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Because we love. Her are you feeling? Up and push
ups for? Us and a little bit we'll talk about.
It we'll talk about we'll talk about it. Later it
is The Push Up challenge.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Next, month by the, way getting you excited for, That
but before we do, that we've got lots to talk
to you, about loads and loads talking about like, now
this Is i'm not on social, media but this has
come to this has come to us from a.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Number of people about. This, Chris Chris, griffin, guy this
this is. Wild it Is.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah should we play Some chris on his, Podcast The Pocket.
Podcast i'm going to cross this. Podcast this is What chris, SAID.
Speaker 10 (15:10):
I don't want my partner working unless she wants to.
Work if you feel the need to go and work
to make money and then you come home and you're
complaining about your, day when we don't need you to make.
Money ask you how is your day, today?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
BABE i want your eyes to line up with.
Speaker 10 (15:26):
Excitement it's the, calm it's the. Harmony it's the peace
and love that a man that's got a busy, life
that's chasing his dreams needs when he's trying to wind.
Down this is WHY i heavily encourage hot girl. WALKS
i would love my partner to go on a hot
girl walk with her friends every day or she gets
this feminine, energy they get to have a bit of
excitement about their. DAY i don't think a girl needs
to go through, challenge pain and hardship to be an amazing.
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GIRL i think she can fill her days with passion
filled things and still be.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Amazing, wow how do you feel listening to?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
THAT i can empathize chasing dreams honest for my partner
to play with a sticker book.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And women don't need to go through. Pain and you
know you should just enjoy.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yourself say hot so that WHEN i come home you
can make me. Happy will obviously obviously.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Joking someone to jump inside because, people.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It's.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Outrageous, yes it's. Terrifying so what are your thoughts on
what he said or what have you spoken about With Chris?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Griffin oh, WELL i MEAN i haven't spoken to him that.
Much AND i think it's important as well to note
that this kind of content, exists because obviously it's not
on my, agorithm Like i'm not following these types of,
people content like this that exists in what they call the. Manisphere,
Yeah terrifyah is absolutely Terri it came.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
UP i came of an.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Adolescence the menisphere was. Mentioned, yeah, yes that eighty twenty
thing That andrew takes. Stuff he's right the top of.
It maybe can you sum up what just for people,
listening can you sum up what the menisphere?
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Is?
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, well it's essentially a big lot of misogynistic content
and the main beliefs within the mattersphere very much upholding
the patriarchy and that women are inferior to.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Men right, again, yes.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Right the scary thing, though is that. CONTENT i, mean
it is all in an echo chamber, obviously but it
was in a one tiny part of The. Internet but
now it's actually mainstream and that's what's really really. Scary
and so this video THAT i saw from From chris
the REASON i wanted to speak about it was because it.
Is it's you, know filmed in a beautiful. Studio it's
got this motivational music behind. It it's framed as, caring
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and what.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
It does it makes it feel like we put the
music underneath. IT i thought we were trying to take
the out of, himself, Right but that's the. Thing he's
not taking the pit AND i agree with.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
You the scary thing about it for me is THAT
i think he truly believes that he is doing right
by women and HE i THINK i think he is
saying that and thinking that he'll get praise from women
because he's the kind of guy who's, LIKE i wouldn't
make my woman work.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Exactly the problem one With chris's content and this type
of content is it's. Conditional it's, LIKE i don't want
my partner to work BECAUSE i need her to serve
me essentially WHEN i get, home and she needs to
be in a certain mood and she's not allowed to.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Complain so it's.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Conditional you can, work but you can't.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Complain the one thing THAT i didn't necessarily take issue
with was when he said he wants his partner to
do the thing that she is passionate about because like
on surface, value like that's that's a good thing to
say to your. Partner it's when they're going follow your
dreams so you can be. Happy it's follow your dreams
so you can keep making me, happy.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Exactly and some belief in there they want them to be.
Happy we did a podcast response episode to, it SO
i listened to the full, episode because you never want
to make a judgment on one kind of.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
One get all that on the kid Pod Thank, You
thank you you listens to grabs on to make that
very clear by the, way we take things out of
context all the, time but more, research.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
But we, did SO i listened to the full episode
and when they when in all the conversation in speaking
about what a woman's passion is With chris and the
other person that was on the podcast Name, wade the
passions that were mentioned were collecting, postcards Platting Barbie doll's
hair And i'm not, joking and going on hot girl.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Walks you have to do otherwise.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Cry are they talking about their partners or are they
just making assumptions as.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
To speak in.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Hypotheticals and it's actually really. INTERESTING a lot of this
content within the manisphere is framed as a, hypothetical, right
and when you frame it that, way it's harder to
argue with because it's not. Real so they both don't
Have both of the people on this podcast that spoke
at length about relationships and how they should be and
what the partner is to do for, them they're both
(19:43):
not in a. Relationship and within the manisphere they kind
of frame men as weak men and strong men and
high value men and low value. Men that we need
to go back to traditional whender normal way it used
to be eccentric except a love.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
That we're talking about, this do you think that this
sort of language is something that's catching on and effecting
people like, actually and do you think that it's?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Changeable the researcher came out that this type of content
is actually within. Mainstream now that's obviously really really.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Scary but the other.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Thing that came out that if you do consume this
type of, content it can impact a male's view on
a woman in a way that she can be. Inferior
and obviously that is incredibly problematic if those kind of
belief systems are being instilled in a piece of. RESEARCH
i believe it was FROM e sixty One institute gen Z.
(20:31):
Men they believe in gender roles more than the older,
generation which is.
Speaker 11 (20:36):
Insane that really does feel like it's flipps like it's
only taking a few generations for it to go back
the Other what do you think was the turning point, There,
laura because it feels like in my, head you always
when you're talking about you, know toxic masculinity and, stuff
that's the older.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Generation what has happened for that to go back the other?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
WAY i think the biggest thing is because this content
has come into mainstream and men are making a lot
of money from. It and the thing that's really scary
is very rare to go on someone's page and every
single piece of content is. Misogynistic but it's the fitness.
Content it's the you, know discipline for, it like go,
go go punish. Yourself don't that you have to otherwise you're?
Weak and then also make money quick or this is
(21:16):
how you make money kind of. Content that's what it's
kind of surrounded, by which you can understand that that
can be appealing to. People they see, it they start,
following and then their beliefs actually.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Impacted one of the women down in just down on
the floor was showing me something On instagram the other
day that she follows Called hinge. Bios so it's like
screenshots of.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Guys bios On hinge.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
HILARIOUS i asked if it was a joke one of.
Them like the tagline like under his name WAS i
don't think you should be able to have a child
if you can't control what you put into your body every.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Day that was his. Bit that was, it and just
a photo of him with his rigap is that that
point for like clean?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Living was that the point he was saying if you
can't diet properly to keep weight, OFF i don't think
you should be able to have a.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Kid oh that was the. Bit AND i was, like
what is this a?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Joke and she was like, NO i have a look
and showed you another one. Again the tag on in
his profile was JUST i will make you feel.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Insecure and there's only dating at where he's trying to
attract women and they.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Think that that will attract me strong.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Man, yeah so scared.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It, actually it's same THING i had to have explained to.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
ME i was, like what's he going? For So, laura
other women that are believing this too? Now, Yeah so
we have.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Seen a really big rise recently in kind of the
trad wives traditional traditional wife. Exactly but there's kind of
now a type of social media influencer that he's a trad.
Wife there are women that follow, this this type of belief,
SYSTEM i, suppose but it's nothing to do with it
being a stay home parent being bad At.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
It's funny you say, THAT i actually am very.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
GLAD i think, earlier very early, ON i said, SEVEN
i sat down with our accountant and explained THAT i
was going to keep working while she Had max and
looked After max and raised. Her and one of the
first things he said is he was, like all, right,
mate well you're going to be earning. Money she's not
going to be earning.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Money so he was, LIKE i.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Don't really want to strong arm you into, this BUT
i think you should just kind of just need to
join everything because, otherwise you, know well like even if
LIKE i die or, whatever like you, know IF i
haven't got, impact IF i haven't got income prediction or you,
know all that sort of, stuff you're gonna be leaving
a completely high and DRY i don't think you. Should
if you're listening to, this and you, should you should
necessarily blame yourself if it's something you've thought of. Before
either because the reason that a lot of this kind
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of manisphere stuff has, arisen and maybe why a lot
of the younger boys are gravitating towards it is because
there was that move towards you, know like condemning toxic,
masculinity et. Cetera BUT i think, that like you, know
as can naturally, happen the left can kind of start eating,
itself where you get wrapping young boys over over the
head with a stick and being like you're you're not good,
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enough you're all, toxic and then they don't have anyone to.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Talk, to and then there's almost like a, rebellion and
then all.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Of a, sudden there's a guy over here, going, hey
people making you feel alienated and redundant and that you're sexually. Impotent,
hey there's this there's this language we're all using over,
here we're all getting around each.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Other so you could see the natural progression.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
There SO i mentioned that because if you haven't had
these thoughts to yourself about, this and you haven't thought
about your, role you, know with your, partner or how
you might be able to support, them and thinking about superannuation.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Stuff that's.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Okay, yeah you know the best. Time the best time
to plant a tree is ten years ago or right,
now you. KNOW i think it's just listening to it
now and going like oh and understanding it from that.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Perspective.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Yeah, absolutely we're not judging you for. It and you
might have been aware of. It you might have been
caught up in this group and been like it Is
i've been talking like.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
That it's. Awful This chris guy thought he was doing
the right.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
THING i think it's also important to demonize This Chris.
GRIFFIN i think he's he's saying that Thinking i'm being
a great partner through all of.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
This.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, arguably, yes be the scariest part about it. Though
thanks so much for coming. In thanks really appreciate.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
It head al on to the kick. App find out
more kicks New strength trainer on The kick. App go
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thank you Will what is?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
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Health get, involved, Guys it's, Easy it's so, easy and
you've only got a couple of days to get involved as,
well so make sure you register this tune to be
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guys excited for that by doing the Push Up challenge this.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
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Speaker 2 (25:23):
Goal how many we?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
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calculations one hundred and nine push.
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yeah good arithmetic from.
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Speaker 2 (25:39):
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going out with the.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Anchor the, anchor, yes who is our executive, Producer Edel's, yes,
yeah not a huge fan of push, ups but he
will be doing the final push ups tomorrow on the
show the.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Show we'll, Go captain.
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to it FROM.
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P P r A. P captain P pe says For
captain Poot, pants which is what we're no longer allowed
to call.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Him you've done, that, yeah, anyway the other PART i
can't do more than how?
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Many is it you want to do, ten, well anything.
Speaker 10 (26:14):
Less than ten, ideally but ten.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
FINE i like. Fourteen the.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Romance there's going to be no romance about a thirty
five year old guy with shaky arms trying to push
out ten.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
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Is are you going to do it in your? Bloodstones?
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Mate is? THAT agni stick with. You i'll do it
in whatever you like me to.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Go on record.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
There you know the huge part of the push up
challenges obviously that it is a raising that is raising
awareness for mental health woulds and you, KNOW i think
that if we had a golden bullet for this whole
mental health, thing if we had a way to solve,
IT i personally think it would be just trying to
get people to be more.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Vulnerable AND i think that's what we're trying to do
during this, segment is trying to be. Vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Absolutely we have a vulnerability wheel in here because there's
no time for both of us to be, vulnerable so
only one of us gets. Vulnerable the thing will be
getting vulnerable about is This when did you last cry
in front of another?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Person spin the?
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Veil, god it's a long. Spin spin still Going why
don't you slow that down a? BIT i, Reckon, okay
WELL i can't be in. Control, no you can't touch, It,
tommy can you slow that?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Down that's, ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Landed on, me bounced back.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
To me.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
On.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
You it's.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Unbelievable no one. MORE i, mean what is going on.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
The.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Wheel the wheel can't decide who wants to.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Standard it's on. Me, okay all, right well that was
an unbelievable, Bit. Patrix now last time you might be
coming back to, me let's just the answer. IT i
saw you cried in front of another. Person oh that's
a big. One but you're comfortable to. SHARE i think
it's worth, saying.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Okay, no, no, NO i can share so something That i'm.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
ACTUALLY i.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Recently have discovered, that like a lot of, Men i'm
pretty good at bottling. Emotion i'm PRETTY i can be
pretty good at it IF i IF i need to,
be you, know you want to get out.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
There and be a, big you, know.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Manure and IT'S.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I, noticed actually recently THAT i had a pretty tough
conversation with someone THAT i know and, love AND i
left them AND i was walking, home AND i noticed
AS i was walking home THAT i. DIDN'T i could
feel this thing in my. CHEST i, like it's, There,
yeah it's definitely. There BUT i was, Like i've got
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a walk through the suburb and it's it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Busy, here AND i don't really want to do.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
This but THEN i just kind of had a moment
WHERE i was, like, no, no, no will come on.
You you got to practice what your preach. Here you,
know you're often talking about people being, vulnerable and, like
really it's, important it's good to get in touch with
how they.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Feel you got to try.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
This SO i actually stopped walking AND i closed my
eyes AND i tried really hard to listen to the,
feeling and it came up and it's pretty, strong like pretty.
Strongly so you're in the middle of the middle of the.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
STREET i was in the. Street you didn't go to
a sidewalk OR i just LIKE i.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Did.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
WELL i wasn't making a show of.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
IT i was just, LIKE i just want to GET
i just need to get this out because because the
other thing is weirdly And i'm sure a lot of
guys can empathize with, this and the reason they probably
do bottle it up is, guys if you.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Ignore, it it feels like it goes, away but it.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Doesn't you actually just suppressed it and then you sort
of comes back to bigger press memories and then you
get you, know effectively. Trauma SO i was, LIKE i
don't want to do. THAT i WANTED i want to
get in touch with this. THING i want to listen
to it right. Now AND i know that they're, people you,
KNOW i wasn't walking through the MET i was in
a side, street BUT i know they're going to be
walking through some, people.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
And SO i did.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
It and, yeah there was a pretty big cry that came,
out and then it started, raining AND i was, like,
SHIT i got to get home And i've got to
probably walk through quite a few people to get. Home
SO i went for, it AND i kind of got
halfway through the, crowd and you, know it's funny were
crying and.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Walking you tend to.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Give those people a pretty wide. Berth sure is they're
going through. Something you don't want to get too.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Involved and that was.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
GOOD i was actually pretty happy for, that you, know actually.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Part of the red.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
STALK i never actually did want anyone to kind of stop.
Me but what was really nice about halfway THROUGH i
nearly got through the crowd this. Beautifully another guy actually stopped.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Me.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah he's about my, AGE i, think maybe a little bit.
Older and he just.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Said to, me, hey, mate are you all?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Right oh it's so. Nice, Yeah AND i was like,
not but like, thanks and then he, goes do you
want to?
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Hug AND i was, like, oh, lovely, YEAH i would
love a hug man and, yeah so he, YEAH i
gave my hug and he gave me a.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Hug that's.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Beautiful it was really. Cool yet it was actually really.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Good SO i don't want to cry. Again i'm. Not uh,
yeah so, nice so.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Beautiful so, anyway and the thing WAS i actually got
home and rather than getting home and being you, know
maybe passive aggressive or dismissive of my partner and my,
daughter or you, know turning something on THE tv to
take my concentration away and having that weird feeling where
you've ignored a cry but you feel you probably should,
HAVE i felt really. Relieved it felt really. Nice so,
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yeah there was some power of.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Vulnerability, well thank you to mystery hugger yea for doing your.
Thing money held on for a bit, long, okay a little?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Bit oh?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Wow the Critical, well, NO i had to give feedback
a few seconds too. Long, okay fair?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Enough fair. Enough as a new term that's been coined
by this, TEAM i think it will be in like
added to the dictionary once it starts getting used in common.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Vernacular it's. Proward, yeah and a proward is a proud.
Coward de do maybe.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
So for so long people have seen cowards are something
to be embarrassed. About no one wants to admit they're a.
Coward BUT i think times are a change in and
it's nice to be proud to be a.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Coward me Will i'm a proud.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
COWARD i Know i'm a, coward and FOR i go
the first thirty years of my, LIFE i was a
bit embarrassed about admitting THAT i was a, coward and
SOMETIMES i would even pretend to be, brave but at
the end of the, Day i'm.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Not i'm a.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Coward i'll give you a great example from the. Weekend
and this is usually the kind of story THAT i
wouldn't tell anyone Because i'd be embarrassed about, it but
Because i'm a proud, Coward i'm happy to share. It
So mim was selling some outdoor furniture at our place
on Gum tree, yep, right and that she said they're
coming On.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Sunday they're going to come and pick up all the outdoor. Furniture.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yep AND i was, like, yep, great bit, annoying but
that's that's obviously fine BECAUSE i was going to be
home AND i just didn't.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Want to do with the. Interaction, plus my, god it's one,
person you're the same As, no there was a group. Coming,
yeah the step dad's, coming they're going to be out
in twenty.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Minutes the wife's.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Coming it's care so mims. Me they're, here AND i was,
like oh, God AND i was, LIKE i know what's
going to.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Happen i'm going To i'm going to walk out, there
and then, obviously Because i'm a nice, Guy i'm going
to offer to help and they're going to take me
up on that And i'm going to have to help
them carry all the outdoor. Furniture SO i knew that
was going to. Happen SO i was, like you know
What i'm. Hiding so you hid in your own.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
HOUSE i hid in my. House they took an air
and a half to. Clear there's a lot of outdoor.
Furniture where'd you.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
HIDE i JUST i hid in the front room and
didn't AND i was texting them being, like are they?
Gone AND i had to duck under the windows at
the front because they kept feel like less of a. Man,
nah Because i'm a proud. Coward here's the point thirteen.
ONE I i feel like a sense of self loathing after,
THAT i, think and.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
You're not a proud. Coward and that's okay as, well.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
You know WHAT i.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Mean i'm absolutely fine with.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
IT i was sekdo guys furnistures out the, back let.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Me know if, Anything i'll be.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Here in other, words don't break anything and bucker, off
you know WHAT i, Mean, like just have that.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Conversation, yeah we're different. Beasts, yeah thirteen one in your own,
House yeah that feels really WOULD.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I wouldn't even peek on top of the window Because
i'd be too scared they'd see me because you crouched
in your FRONT i was lying down in my front
room for an hour and a. Half it's playing snake
on my. Phone thirteen one oh six y five is the.
NUMBER i want to.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Know are you a proud coward or do you know
a proud? Coward? Okay in use today as.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well it's a whole town In. Florida they're In Cape,
coral and they're all very. Stressed there's a lot of
chaos in the town because there's a duck on the.
Loose so a few people have gone to hospital because
of this nipping duck and apparently a lot of people
aren't leaving their houses a.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Bit like me on the weekend because of this. Duck
now that for me the town of proud.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Cowards And i'm all for, them and Maybe i'll move
To Cape coral at some stage in my life and
get around some.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Of My so you're, saying another example of a proud
coward is like somebody who you, know if they got
conscripted to go to, war they're just you, KNOW i
leave the.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Country, Absolutely, No I'm I'm i'm, patriotic So i'd go to.
WAR i don't think you? Would, YES i?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Would you?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
WOULD i think you'd moved to This Almona, no, YES i.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Would, NO i would, Go AND i. Disagree that is
just that's just a you will do WHAT i have
to do to keep this country.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Safe and you know that's Just i'm against war, obviously
but IF i got CONSCRIPTED i would, go but if
there's a noise in the, shed SOMETIMES i call the.
Cops you know WHAT i, meant rather than go. Outside proud,
coward we're. Back are you proud? Coward come and be,
honest join.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Me it's. Nice get it off your. Chest you're proud
to be a. Coward that's. It proud.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Cowards we've all known there's like cowards out. There BUT
i think it's a nice moment in your life when
you accept the fact that.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
You are a coward and you become proud of. It i'm.
There i'm.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
There on an incident recently WHERE i accidentally walked into
a cubicle AND i didn't, realize but there was a,
woman an elderly woman in.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
There she didn't lock the. Door was at the cafe
with you when you're into the.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Toilet, yeah not my, fault but she's gotten lock the
door And i've opened the door and she was standing,
up wasn't she was because she stood up because she'd
gone to close the, door because she heard the rattle
of the door with trousers. Down trousers, down and then
so rather than you, know go sorry and then wait
for it to come out and, APOLOGIZE i ran.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
AWAY i just, ran AND i never wanted to deal with.
It and then she came and sat back to the
table next to. Us, yeah AND i had to leave.
Immediately obviously kind of proud.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Coward AND i find the funny thing about proud cowards
specifically you actually is obviously that naturally you gravitate towards
people who are going to do your dirty work for.
You you, know they are going to do the confrontational
and stuff for. You so you got, Me you Got
mim as, well Good mim likes getting in. THERE a
couple of examples for. You, firstly if you AND i
get you, know sometimes you AND i get send a
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proposal for you, know something to do for a client
or something like. That Sometimes i'll suggest a, video, right
and sometimes the video will be the stinkiest video idea
you've ever seen in your. Life and rather than, going,
hey will not? Sure you, know hey, guys not sure
about this, One you'll just write in the, email bloody love?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
This what do you? Think will bloody love? This? Geez
this will be a hot video for? Us will? Vote
what do you?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
THINK i wouldn't want to do it without your Cont
and Then i'm not sure about.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Odd, jeez we'll be a bit, precious aren't. We BUT
i have to agree with. Him, SORRY i don't have
to say.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
No We, also whenever we're in negotiation meetings or like
any meeting were in where there's like just a little
bit of like maybe slight confrontation going, ON i always
make sure that there's always lollies in these big, officers
AND i just crammed lollies into my, mouth and then
whenever they look to me for a, Comment i'm, like for, them.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Let's got to Worry. Warwick, hi, guys how are you?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Hell i'm, outstanding, mate great to be a proud, coward
runners through a proud coward or.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
Not but, ANYWAY i, mean if you're a, coward who
gives a damn as long as.
Speaker 9 (38:31):
You're a good.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Blake, yeah, yeah go on. Mate oh, NO i was
just wringing.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
YOU i couldn't believe you answered the. PHONE i got through.
It but, Anyway i'm driving.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Home my, phone my phone.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
Rings it's if it's my it's the.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Duck And i'm hearing the ducks.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
Here i'm, thinking oh, ship where's the? Phone and THEN
i suddenly realized there it. Is, Yes, oh, dear how are?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
You, yeah hang, on you've got, Us, worrick because you
want to let us know that when you heard us
play the duck sound, effect you thought it was your phone.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Ringing, correct that's standing. Warrick that is.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
Again one of my sons has Got i've got A
clashton horn for somebody else and a.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Horse knowing.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
It's been going to have you, on, Mate we'll make
sure not to play any horse sound effects while your,
warrick otherwise you'll think someone else is.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Calling you had to Have worrick on the show, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Now what you were talking, about the fact that you
hid in the front. Room, yes and the other day
while people came and picked up your outdoor. Furniture, yes
it's part of A facebook marketplace. Exchange, YES i didn't want.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
TO i didn't want to walk out there BECAUSE i
KNEW i would have had to offer Because i'm a good,
person so rather than just kind of undo that doesn't
it definitely because you're, like you're insisting that you are
a good, person BUT i think we're hiding from the.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Work then you, know technically that makes you a bad.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
PERSON i can see it that way, Now BUT i
didn't want to deal with that. Confrontation SO i hid
in the. House, yeah and then there was just no
chance that conversation was going to come. Up, Sure i'm not,
there SO i DON'T i don't.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
EXIST i would AM i getting some inside on.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
This, So, mimi your wife is called heymm, hey isn't?
Speaker 3 (40:09):
It is that actually what?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Happened, WELL i.
Speaker 8 (40:13):
Don't know if you could be like proud, cow considering
your wife's currently pregnant and she was outside in the
cold helping them move things in and out of the,
yeah out of the.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Garden so you've sun, this did?
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You you weren't, helping you were not, well actually don't
know BECAUSE i was hiding in the front, room to be,
fair
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The Will and Woody podcast Will pretty poor fatherhood on
my part recently bad daddy.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So basically you were involved, Can I just say as well?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
And I just think I wasn't. I was an accessory.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
As my wise mate. I just wish you pulled me
into line here because I've embarrassed myself and done the
one thing you should never do as a father. So
where I was at the park with you, your daughter
was there?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Was it your daughter's party?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, exactly was.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
She was there, of course.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Party and all the kids decided to do a race
they were doing, like a running race.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Did they decide to do a race that was running around?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, but I think naturally when kids start running, it
becomes a bit of a race where they, you know,
test each other out.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Who's the fastest.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So you just see these kids from the back of
the playground. They come out of nowhere and they are
just tearing. They can't believe how quick they're going. Anyway,
all the kids had gone past, and we kind of
went back to our beverages and started talking, and then
all of a sudden, out of nowhere. About a minute
later comes my beautiful daughter, Remy, who is going so
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incredibly slow. It's like the kids have forgotten about it.
They've moved on to other activities. And there's Remy head down,
just pumping the arms.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
She's so far behind.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
And as as she was running, she was those's either
running up hill or into a fifty k in our.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Headwind YEP, that can confirm there was no wind.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
She just and but the effort was the effort was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
She was going for it and it led to this
huge laugh from all the parents.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
So every single parent and it's just had the shoes
with the lights on them as well.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
At step of foot would light up.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, then you and then as dad there I fell
for it as well. I am pissing myself laughing at
how funny the whole thing is. And I just had
this moment where I was like, ah, she's doing something
a little bit embarrassing and whilst this is funny, like
you have to admit that this is I think as
a parent there's sometimes where you're like, ah, I shouldn't
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be laughing at you right now.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
It's interesting that you raised this because and by the way,
thirteen one oh six', five if you've laughed at your
kid when you shouldn't. HAVE i think it's interesting you
raised this because you literally brought up the other week
about you, know when do you tell your children the hard,
truths like when you're going to tell your daughter that
she's bloody?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Slow, no, no it's.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Funny AND i was, LIKE i Think i'll be someone
who'll be able to have that. Conversation, YEAH i realized
on the weekend there's no. Way AFTER i laughed at
her face for a, WHILE i got right around AND i.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Was, like you are moving like the. Wind, yeah, yeah, Right.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
YEAH i find myself laughing at her a, lot, actually
though at inappropriate. Time so she's just started doing dancing.
Classes oh cute as, well, lovely, right except the teacher always,
says point point your, toes, right so it's a, ballet
and so point your toes And remy points at her toes.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
The whole.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Point laughing at, it which again is, like don't laugh
at your daughter when she does something. Embarrassing, yeah, yeah another.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
One because you don't want.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
To you want, them you want to get around, them
you want them to feel like they can do silly
things in front of you without being laughed.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
At you also don't want to condone bad behavior as.
Well so where just starting and have conversations around because
she's she's seeing me And mum. Naked, ye just trying
to understand, like, okay Wise dad got that thing between
his legs and Wise mum got.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
That so it's like that's the, vagina that's a, Penis
like you start to have.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
That but what's not funny or WHAT i shouldn't be
laughing at is when she Sees, nanny which is MIM's,
mum and Says nanny has a. Penis, Yeah And i've
laughed at that a number of, times and that's that's poor.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Behavior well actually funnily, Enough So, max my, daughter was
staying at mum And dad's place recently and down the,
BEACH i Think dad just got out of the out
of the water and he was getting changed And max
walked up to him and said she got him, dark
and in front of my mum and another one of
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my siblings, said, oh does got a tony?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Penis there you, go which and, yeah you can't, laugh
which it's obviously.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Hilary hard not to. Laugh dad hasn't. Surfaced he's so.
Mortified that's.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Tough he's never he'll never get undressed.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Again going back from, that thirteen one six five is that?
Number when did?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
You when did you laugh at your kids when you
really shouldn't? Have, so for, example when my daughter was
trying to pronounce dinosaur for a long time and she
pronounced it asshole, WHAT i don't. Know she was definitely
referring to, dinosaurs but she was, saying, ah, Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And when you're finding that, funny what? Happens you going
to keep doing? It he. Does so we're in the supermarket,
saying where's the?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Assook i'm gonna stop saying that works the snaughty would
but it's just a.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Mistake so, yeah we GOT.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I find it particularly hard with your partner as, Well
like if they're laughing at your partner and you know
you don't want, it you can. Don't, yes we mentioned
before it Was max's birthday last, weekend And sam spent
a lot of time researching your present For. Max, yes
spent a lot of, time you. Know so she ended
up getting there with this, magnet like this giant. Magnet oh,
YEAH i think that she Makes it's like blocks with magnets,
(05:40):
Anyway i've seen.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Them they look.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Great oh they're.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Great.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah max opens the.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Presents first present she opens it is the biggest box as,
well so she opens it, up takes one look at,
it and then she, goes this is for my. MUMMY
i then gave it straight Factor sam right across.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
The, table WHICH i thought was.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Great did you laugh, obviously, Yeah AND i thought that
was very funny as.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well of course it's good.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Gear at the end of the daw you can't give
to present straight back To.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Maddie, hi, guys, hello now matter you're a. BABYSITTER i.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Am i've been babysitting for a long time, now And
i've never heard something so hilarious come out of a kid's.
Mouth but it's it's quite. Sweet at the same, time
this two year OLD i look, after He's i've taken
him to this indoor playground and he starts saying WHAT
i think is dump, truck but as you could, imagine
it's coming out as dumb and then And i'm, going
(06:39):
oh my, gosh what are you? Saying and he repeats
it again And i'm, like oh my. GOSH i start.
Laughing and now BECAUSE i. Laugh you know now.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's good, Gear.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Maddie we've got t shoes coiled on thirty and WHEN
i six, five teaches is your?
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Son, yes, yes he was two at the. Time he's twenty.
Now but we were at a family gathering at my
unie's place and her father in law was there and
unfortunately her father in law lost her. Legs, sorry he's
standing there any shorts one leg, crutches and my son
(07:18):
walks over in front of everyone and, says, hey where's your.
Leg we all have a bit of a. Chuckle he's,
two but then he proceeds to walk underneath, him look
up his shorts leg and, says, yep, nope it's not.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
There.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Wow and of course we all cracked, up and.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Yeah he thought it was. Hilarious so we kept bringing
the attention back to this man with a missing.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Leg, yeah, yeah you can't laugh. THERE i apologize for.
Love sorry the look.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Up nothing to say.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
That we actually We're the other, morning we had an
interview over at my place in the.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Morning we interviewed was It Lady, Gaga Chris, Pratt, Millie Bobby, BROWN.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
A few of, you just a few of the, names
just a few of the names that cycled through the
show recently get him on the.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Podcast could have Been.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Rhianna, Yeah i'm not sure, her or biber or it
was one of those. Names, Anyway you And juni producer
analysts came around in the.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Morning it was pretty early in the, morning so my
daughter was. Naked she kind of rolls around in these.
Days she's just on the bottom. Half she had A t.
Shirt but just from.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
There, AFTER i like that look.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Anyway so so she was sitting on the rug and
THEN i don't know what's going on at the, moment
but she got a bit of a fascination with.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It, Anyway so you and analyst, said By max, later, well,
ses she offered me a. Tea she, said do.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
You make you a cup of tea hospitality service at my?
Place and then while you were, talking just did the
double hand as straight in The notorious Vag. Yeah, yeah,
Yeah and she was offering me tea, yeah which you,
know obviously you and analyst thought was very.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Funny well you have to. Laugh it's just there's nothing
you can do there but. Laugh let's go To. Sue
so this was your. Son, yeah you had a laugh
and probably.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
Should, yeah probably shouldn't. Have but, yeah my husband AND
i were shopping in a bathroom renault store On Paramatta
road AND i was off looking at basins and, tapware
AND i turn around to my husband calling my name
loudly across the display floor with my son over his
(09:29):
shoulder with his ass cheeks hanging. Out, basically he had
said that my son had been in the display toilet
in the front display window at the lights On Paramatta
road doing a poo in one of the toilets because
he was being potty, trained and he was very proud of.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Himself possessions that are red flags to. You red you
had a great moment. YESTERDAY im going to play it
again for those that missed.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
IT i don't plate.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
It well Now i'm gonna play.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
It BUT i actually know that much of an issue because
he's a bird, person hence a freak by.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
It there was a, bird SO i had a.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Bird, yes immediately she's got Their. SARAH i just love.
That more than three.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Cats gotta be a red, FLAG i, think to be,
HONEST i can multiple pets as a red.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Flag oh just what have you got to hang?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
On different different breeds, though as in like if you've
got hamsters and you've got.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Dogs it's a bit of a red, flake you know
when they're kind of like up running a farm but
they live in the. City like if you're a bit
of farm, fine but you know when they are when
there are more pets than, appliance.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Is THAT i start to get a little bit. Weird,
yeah fair cool collecting?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Them, yes for, YOU a plumbed gas, Barbecue i've got
that all. RIGHT i was going to, say especially if
they're using the barbecue before eight o'clock in the.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
MORNING i barbecue every, morning you know that way to.
Cook let's go To.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Jamie, here whos on the bar the?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Morning?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Mate? Jamie what possessions are a Red? Jamie, hey, GUYS.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
I would definitely have to, say.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
M What's mira cosplay?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Uniform?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Jamie, yeah like that sailor moon outfit that you had. Woods,
YES i did have, that So. Jamie have you have
you experienced?
Speaker 8 (11:28):
That?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Jamie you've gone to someone's.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
House, unfortunately and it was quite, so.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So, jamie without going into it too, much it was
their desire for you to slip that.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
On, no it was their desire to. Themselves love.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
His own backyard, there he's just going with his own.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Thing she.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Lava lamp. Woods what do you say with lava? LAMPS
i have a flag for, mine.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
SO i said to, HIM i wanted TO i wanted
to buy a lava lamp only a few weeks. Ago
did you do Your, No i'm not pitching it hard to,
me mim, said.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Not a Good it's just got a bit of a
brothel vibe to. It that kind of LIKE i think
that kind of like funky colored.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Lighting just always a bit of a.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, okay what about what about trophies on display from
like teenageld?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Trophies big? Flag, yeah big big.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Flag So i've got them in a. Basement where does that?
Sit don't answer, That let's go To. Lauren lauren red flag.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Possessions it's any male that?
Speaker 9 (12:28):
ORANGE i bee?
Speaker 8 (12:29):
Fridge, yeah beer.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
FRIDGE i mean it was, cool it was. Cool was
it ever?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
COOL i think in the, day as a young man
in a, sharehouse that was a pretty cool thing to
say that you.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Had, yeah for, SURE i had a beer fridge, outdoors, Though,
LAUREN i don't think you're not including.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That it used to be a real chick magnet the beer. Fridge.
Lauren has that?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Changed oh, yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Definitely you can chuck a fizzor in.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
There if you.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Want i'm now that we're in this now that we're
in this, area foosball, Table.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh big red, flag.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Red F you wanna have a quick, game, Mate you
want to have a quick?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Game post F. Hm posters on the walls or just
posters on the walls of like elite, athletes or you,
know put some art up. There let's go to we
all got a bit high, brow got a bit high.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
Brows what about one of those little basketball hoops that's
got those little suction cups under the wall just above
the been, there particularly if they call it When.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Kobe red more than more than four towels Things i've.
Owned by the, way.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Do you know when you're walking his own, bathrooms it's
like four towels like? Four, yeah what do you mean
that's a red flag? For you've got four towels in
rotation like ones over the, shower things on the, hook
one on the FLOR i don't, know red flag from.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It let's go to layam bowler. Hat that's, cool, sorry.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Doubt what's the red flag for?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
You?
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Mate the reddest of the red. Mate you walk into
someone's house and they got live laugh.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Love There god in neon in a neon, sign a
pink neon.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Sign, yeah Good, god good, stuff leaving yourself a will
And woody mugg for that one live prop these ones
when they've got live love laugh actually inscribed on the
back of Him lord Of henshaw's in the, studio which
is bloody awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Because we love. Her are you feeling? Up and push
ups for? Us and a little bit we'll talk about.
It we'll talk about we'll talk about it. Later it
is The Push Up challenge.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Next, month by the, way getting you excited for, That
but before we do, that we've got lots to talk
to you, about loads and loads talking about like, now
this Is i'm not on social, media but this has
come to this has come to us from a.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Number of people about. This, Chris Chris, griffin, guy this
this is. Wild it Is.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah should we play Some chris on his, Podcast The Pocket.
Podcast i'm going to cross this. Podcast this is What chris, SAID.
Speaker 10 (15:10):
I don't want my partner working unless she wants to.
Work if you feel the need to go and work
to make money and then you come home and you're
complaining about your, day when we don't need you to make.
Money ask you how is your day, today?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
BABE i want your eyes to line up with.
Speaker 10 (15:26):
Excitement it's the, calm it's the. Harmony it's the peace
and love that a man that's got a busy, life
that's chasing his dreams needs when he's trying to wind.
Down this is WHY i heavily encourage hot girl. WALKS
i would love my partner to go on a hot
girl walk with her friends every day or she gets
this feminine, energy they get to have a bit of
excitement about their. DAY i don't think a girl needs
to go through, challenge pain and hardship to be an amazing.
(15:47):
GIRL i think she can fill her days with passion
filled things and still be.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Amazing, wow how do you feel listening to?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
THAT i can empathize chasing dreams honest for my partner
to play with a sticker book.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And women don't need to go through. Pain and you
know you should just enjoy.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yourself say hot so that WHEN i come home you
can make me. Happy will obviously obviously.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Joking someone to jump inside because, people.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It's.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Outrageous, yes it's. Terrifying so what are your thoughts on
what he said or what have you spoken about With Chris?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Griffin oh, WELL i MEAN i haven't spoken to him that.
Much AND i think it's important as well to note
that this kind of content, exists because obviously it's not
on my, agorithm Like i'm not following these types of,
people content like this that exists in what they call the. Manisphere,
Yeah terrifyah is absolutely Terri it came.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
UP i came of an.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Adolescence the menisphere was. Mentioned, yeah, yes that eighty twenty
thing That andrew takes. Stuff he's right the top of.
It maybe can you sum up what just for people,
listening can you sum up what the menisphere?
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Is?
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, well it's essentially a big lot of misogynistic content
and the main beliefs within the mattersphere very much upholding
the patriarchy and that women are inferior to.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Men right, again, yes.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Right the scary thing, though is that. CONTENT i, mean
it is all in an echo chamber, obviously but it
was in a one tiny part of The. Internet but
now it's actually mainstream and that's what's really really. Scary
and so this video THAT i saw from From chris
the REASON i wanted to speak about it was because it.
Is it's you, know filmed in a beautiful. Studio it's
got this motivational music behind. It it's framed as, caring
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and what.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
It does it makes it feel like we put the
music underneath. IT i thought we were trying to take
the out of, himself, Right but that's the. Thing he's
not taking the pit AND i agree with.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
You the scary thing about it for me is THAT
i think he truly believes that he is doing right
by women and HE i THINK i think he is
saying that and thinking that he'll get praise from women
because he's the kind of guy who's, LIKE i wouldn't
make my woman work.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Exactly the problem one With chris's content and this type
of content is it's. Conditional it's, LIKE i don't want
my partner to work BECAUSE i need her to serve
me essentially WHEN i get, home and she needs to
be in a certain mood and she's not allowed to.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Complain so it's.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Conditional you can, work but you can't.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Complain the one thing THAT i didn't necessarily take issue
with was when he said he wants his partner to
do the thing that she is passionate about because like
on surface, value like that's that's a good thing to
say to your. Partner it's when they're going follow your
dreams so you can be. Happy it's follow your dreams
so you can keep making me, happy.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Exactly and some belief in there they want them to be.
Happy we did a podcast response episode to, it SO
i listened to the full, episode because you never want
to make a judgment on one kind of.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
One get all that on the kid Pod Thank, You
thank you you listens to grabs on to make that
very clear by the, way we take things out of
context all the, time but more, research.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
But we, did SO i listened to the full episode
and when they when in all the conversation in speaking
about what a woman's passion is With chris and the
other person that was on the podcast Name, wade the
passions that were mentioned were collecting, postcards Platting Barbie doll's
hair And i'm not, joking and going on hot girl.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Walks you have to do otherwise.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Cry are they talking about their partners or are they
just making assumptions as.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
To speak in.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Hypotheticals and it's actually really. INTERESTING a lot of this
content within the manisphere is framed as a, hypothetical, right
and when you frame it that, way it's harder to
argue with because it's not. Real so they both don't
Have both of the people on this podcast that spoke
at length about relationships and how they should be and
what the partner is to do for, them they're both
(19:43):
not in a. Relationship and within the manisphere they kind
of frame men as weak men and strong men and
high value men and low value. Men that we need
to go back to traditional whender normal way it used
to be eccentric except a love.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
That we're talking about, this do you think that this
sort of language is something that's catching on and effecting
people like, actually and do you think that it's?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Changeable the researcher came out that this type of content
is actually within. Mainstream now that's obviously really really.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Scary but the other.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Thing that came out that if you do consume this
type of, content it can impact a male's view on
a woman in a way that she can be. Inferior
and obviously that is incredibly problematic if those kind of
belief systems are being instilled in a piece of. RESEARCH
i believe it was FROM e sixty One institute gen Z.
(20:31):
Men they believe in gender roles more than the older,
generation which is.
Speaker 11 (20:36):
Insane that really does feel like it's flipps like it's
only taking a few generations for it to go back
the Other what do you think was the turning point, There,
laura because it feels like in my, head you always
when you're talking about you, know toxic masculinity and, stuff
that's the older.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Generation what has happened for that to go back the other?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
WAY i think the biggest thing is because this content
has come into mainstream and men are making a lot
of money from. It and the thing that's really scary
is very rare to go on someone's page and every
single piece of content is. Misogynistic but it's the fitness.
Content it's the you, know discipline for, it like go,
go go punish. Yourself don't that you have to otherwise you're?
Weak and then also make money quick or this is
(21:16):
how you make money kind of. Content that's what it's
kind of surrounded, by which you can understand that that
can be appealing to. People they see, it they start,
following and then their beliefs actually.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Impacted one of the women down in just down on
the floor was showing me something On instagram the other
day that she follows Called hinge. Bios so it's like
screenshots of.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Guys bios On hinge.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
HILARIOUS i asked if it was a joke one of.
Them like the tagline like under his name WAS i
don't think you should be able to have a child
if you can't control what you put into your body every.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Day that was his. Bit that was, it and just
a photo of him with his rigap is that that
point for like clean?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Living was that the point he was saying if you
can't diet properly to keep weight, OFF i don't think
you should be able to have a.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Kid oh that was the. Bit AND i was, like
what is this a?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Joke and she was like, NO i have a look
and showed you another one. Again the tag on in
his profile was JUST i will make you feel.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Insecure and there's only dating at where he's trying to
attract women and they.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Think that that will attract me strong.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Man, yeah so scared.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It, actually it's same THING i had to have explained to.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
ME i was, like what's he going? For So, laura
other women that are believing this too? Now, Yeah so
we have.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Seen a really big rise recently in kind of the
trad wives traditional traditional wife. Exactly but there's kind of
now a type of social media influencer that he's a trad.
Wife there are women that follow, this this type of belief,
SYSTEM i, suppose but it's nothing to do with it
being a stay home parent being bad At.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
It's funny you say, THAT i actually am very.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
GLAD i think, earlier very early, ON i said, SEVEN
i sat down with our accountant and explained THAT i
was going to keep working while she Had max and
looked After max and raised. Her and one of the
first things he said is he was, like all, right,
mate well you're going to be earning. Money she's not
going to be earning.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Money so he was, LIKE i.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Don't really want to strong arm you into, this BUT
i think you should just kind of just need to
join everything because, otherwise you, know well like even if
LIKE i die or, whatever like you, know IF i
haven't got, impact IF i haven't got income prediction or you,
know all that sort of, stuff you're gonna be leaving
a completely high and DRY i don't think you. Should
if you're listening to, this and you, should you should
necessarily blame yourself if it's something you've thought of. Before
either because the reason that a lot of this kind
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of manisphere stuff has, arisen and maybe why a lot
of the younger boys are gravitating towards it is because
there was that move towards you, know like condemning toxic,
masculinity et. Cetera BUT i think, that like you, know
as can naturally, happen the left can kind of start eating,
itself where you get wrapping young boys over over the
head with a stick and being like you're you're not good,
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enough you're all, toxic and then they don't have anyone to.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Talk, to and then there's almost like a, rebellion and
then all.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Of a, sudden there's a guy over here, going, hey
people making you feel alienated and redundant and that you're sexually. Impotent,
hey there's this there's this language we're all using over,
here we're all getting around each.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Other so you could see the natural progression.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
There SO i mentioned that because if you haven't had
these thoughts to yourself about, this and you haven't thought
about your, role you, know with your, partner or how
you might be able to support, them and thinking about superannuation.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Stuff that's.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Okay, yeah you know the best. Time the best time
to plant a tree is ten years ago or right,
now you. KNOW i think it's just listening to it
now and going like oh and understanding it from that.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Perspective.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Yeah, absolutely we're not judging you for. It and you
might have been aware of. It you might have been
caught up in this group and been like it Is
i've been talking like.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
That it's. Awful This chris guy thought he was doing
the right.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
THING i think it's also important to demonize This Chris.
GRIFFIN i think he's he's saying that Thinking i'm being
a great partner through all of.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
This.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, arguably, yes be the scariest part about it. Though
thanks so much for coming. In thanks really appreciate.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
It head al on to the kick. App find out
more kicks New strength trainer on The kick. App go
and get it Around steff And. Laura we love getting
around these. Guys there are some things coming In, Laura
thank you Will what is?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
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Up challenge and raise much needed awareness and funds for mental.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Health get, involved, Guys it's, Easy it's so, easy and
you've only got a couple of days to get involved as,
well so make sure you register this tune to be
part of the Push Up. Challenge we've been getting you
guys excited for that by doing the Push Up challenge this.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Month two hundred and fourteen push ups is the.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Goal how many we?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Onwards we're on threey one hundred and five so by my,
calculations one hundred and nine push.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Ups to, do, nice, good, good that's, good, yeah nice,
yeah good arithmetic from.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Me, Ye so, yeah we'll get that. Done, actually we've
got a very exciting.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Finish, yeah, yeah the finale has. Big the finale's big
going out with the.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Anchor the, anchor, yes who is our executive, Producer Edel's, yes,
yeah not a huge fan of push, ups but he
will be doing the final push ups tomorrow on the
show the.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Show we'll, Go captain.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Pp we're going to bring it, home captain looking forward
to it FROM.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
P P r A. P captain P pe says For
captain Poot, pants which is what we're no longer allowed
to call.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Him you've done, that, yeah, anyway the other PART i
can't do more than how?
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Many is it you want to do, ten, well anything.
Speaker 10 (26:14):
Less than ten, ideally but ten.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
FINE i like. Fourteen the.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Romance there's going to be no romance about a thirty
five year old guy with shaky arms trying to push
out ten.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Pushups, Mate i'll do you that, MUCH i think there.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Is are you going to do it in your? Bloodstones?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Mate is? THAT agni stick with. You i'll do it
in whatever you like me to.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Go on record.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
There you know the huge part of the push up
challenges obviously that it is a raising that is raising
awareness for mental health woulds and you, KNOW i think
that if we had a golden bullet for this whole
mental health, thing if we had a way to solve,
IT i personally think it would be just trying to
get people to be more.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Vulnerable AND i think that's what we're trying to do
during this, segment is trying to be. Vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Absolutely we have a vulnerability wheel in here because there's
no time for both of us to be, vulnerable so
only one of us gets. Vulnerable the thing will be
getting vulnerable about is This when did you last cry
in front of another?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Person spin the?
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Veil, god it's a long. Spin spin still Going why
don't you slow that down a? BIT i, Reckon, okay
WELL i can't be in. Control, no you can't touch, It,
tommy can you slow that?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Down that's, ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Landed on, me bounced back.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
To me.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
On.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
You it's.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Unbelievable no one. MORE i, mean what is going on.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
The.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Wheel the wheel can't decide who wants to.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Standard it's on. Me, okay all, right well that was
an unbelievable, Bit. Patrix now last time you might be
coming back to, me let's just the answer. IT i
saw you cried in front of another. Person oh that's
a big. One but you're comfortable to. SHARE i think
it's worth, saying.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Okay, no, no, NO i can share so something That i'm.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
ACTUALLY i.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Recently have discovered, that like a lot of, Men i'm
pretty good at bottling. Emotion i'm PRETTY i can be
pretty good at it IF i IF i need to,
be you, know you want to get out.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
There and be a, big you, know.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Manure and IT'S.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I, noticed actually recently THAT i had a pretty tough
conversation with someone THAT i know and, love AND i
left them AND i was walking, home AND i noticed
AS i was walking home THAT i. DIDN'T i could
feel this thing in my. CHEST i, like it's, There,
yeah it's definitely. There BUT i was, Like i've got
(28:59):
a walk through the suburb and it's it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Busy, here AND i don't really want to do.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
This but THEN i just kind of had a moment
WHERE i was, like, no, no, no will come on.
You you got to practice what your preach. Here you,
know you're often talking about people being, vulnerable and, like
really it's, important it's good to get in touch with
how they.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Feel you got to try.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
This SO i actually stopped walking AND i closed my
eyes AND i tried really hard to listen to the,
feeling and it came up and it's pretty, strong like pretty.
Strongly so you're in the middle of the middle of the.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
STREET i was in the. Street you didn't go to
a sidewalk OR i just LIKE i.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Did.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
WELL i wasn't making a show of.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
IT i was just, LIKE i just want to GET
i just need to get this out because because the
other thing is weirdly And i'm sure a lot of
guys can empathize with, this and the reason they probably
do bottle it up is, guys if you.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Ignore, it it feels like it goes, away but it.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Doesn't you actually just suppressed it and then you sort
of comes back to bigger press memories and then you
get you, know effectively. Trauma SO i was, LIKE i
don't want to do. THAT i WANTED i want to
get in touch with this. THING i want to listen
to it right. Now AND i know that they're, people you,
KNOW i wasn't walking through the MET i was in
a side, street BUT i know they're going to be
walking through some, people.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
And SO i did.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
It and, yeah there was a pretty big cry that came,
out and then it started, raining AND i was, like,
SHIT i got to get home And i've got to
probably walk through quite a few people to get. Home
SO i went for, it AND i kind of got
halfway through the, crowd and you, know it's funny were
crying and.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Walking you tend to.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Give those people a pretty wide. Berth sure is they're
going through. Something you don't want to get too.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Involved and that was.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
GOOD i was actually pretty happy for, that you, know actually.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Part of the red.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
STALK i never actually did want anyone to kind of stop.
Me but what was really nice about halfway THROUGH i
nearly got through the crowd this. Beautifully another guy actually stopped.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Me.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah he's about my, AGE i, think maybe a little bit.
Older and he just.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Said to, me, hey, mate are you all?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Right oh it's so. Nice, Yeah AND i was like,
not but like, thanks and then he, goes do you
want to?
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Hug AND i was, like, oh, lovely, YEAH i would
love a hug man and, yeah so he, YEAH i
gave my hug and he gave me a.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Hug that's.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Beautiful it was really. Cool yet it was actually really.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Good SO i don't want to cry. Again i'm. Not uh,
yeah so, nice so.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Beautiful so, anyway and the thing WAS i actually got
home and rather than getting home and being you, know
maybe passive aggressive or dismissive of my partner and my,
daughter or you, know turning something on THE tv to
take my concentration away and having that weird feeling where
you've ignored a cry but you feel you probably should,
HAVE i felt really. Relieved it felt really. Nice so,
(31:43):
yeah there was some power of.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Vulnerability, well thank you to mystery hugger yea for doing your.
Thing money held on for a bit, long, okay a little?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Bit oh?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Wow the Critical, well, NO i had to give feedback
a few seconds too. Long, okay fair?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Enough fair. Enough as a new term that's been coined
by this, TEAM i think it will be in like
added to the dictionary once it starts getting used in common.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Vernacular it's. Proward, yeah and a proward is a proud.
Coward de do maybe.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
So for so long people have seen cowards are something
to be embarrassed. About no one wants to admit they're a.
Coward BUT i think times are a change in and
it's nice to be proud to be a.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Coward me Will i'm a proud.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
COWARD i Know i'm a, coward and FOR i go
the first thirty years of my, LIFE i was a
bit embarrassed about admitting THAT i was a, coward and
SOMETIMES i would even pretend to be, brave but at
the end of the, Day i'm.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Not i'm a.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Coward i'll give you a great example from the. Weekend
and this is usually the kind of story THAT i
wouldn't tell anyone Because i'd be embarrassed about, it but
Because i'm a proud, Coward i'm happy to share. It
So mim was selling some outdoor furniture at our place
on Gum tree, yep, right and that she said they're
coming On.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Sunday they're going to come and pick up all the outdoor. Furniture.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yep AND i was, like, yep, great bit, annoying but
that's that's obviously fine BECAUSE i was going to be
home AND i just didn't.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Want to do with the. Interaction, plus my, god it's one,
person you're the same As, no there was a group. Coming,
yeah the step dad's, coming they're going to be out
in twenty.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Minutes the wife's.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Coming it's care so mims. Me they're, here AND i was,
like oh, God AND i was, LIKE i know what's
going to.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Happen i'm going To i'm going to walk out, there
and then, obviously Because i'm a nice, Guy i'm going
to offer to help and they're going to take me
up on that And i'm going to have to help
them carry all the outdoor. Furniture SO i knew that
was going to. Happen SO i was, like you know
What i'm. Hiding so you hid in your own.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
HOUSE i hid in my. House they took an air
and a half to. Clear there's a lot of outdoor.
Furniture where'd you.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
HIDE i JUST i hid in the front room and
didn't AND i was texting them being, like are they?
Gone AND i had to duck under the windows at
the front because they kept feel like less of a. Man,
nah Because i'm a proud. Coward here's the point thirteen.
ONE I i feel like a sense of self loathing after,
THAT i, think and.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
You're not a proud. Coward and that's okay as, well.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
You know WHAT i.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Mean i'm absolutely fine with.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
IT i was sekdo guys furnistures out the, back let.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Me know if, Anything i'll be.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Here in other, words don't break anything and bucker, off
you know WHAT i, Mean, like just have that.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Conversation, yeah we're different. Beasts, yeah thirteen one in your own,
House yeah that feels really WOULD.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I wouldn't even peek on top of the window Because
i'd be too scared they'd see me because you crouched
in your FRONT i was lying down in my front
room for an hour and a. Half it's playing snake
on my. Phone thirteen one oh six y five is the.
NUMBER i want to.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Know are you a proud coward or do you know
a proud? Coward? Okay in use today as.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well it's a whole town In. Florida they're In Cape,
coral and they're all very. Stressed there's a lot of
chaos in the town because there's a duck on the.
Loose so a few people have gone to hospital because
of this nipping duck and apparently a lot of people
aren't leaving their houses a.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Bit like me on the weekend because of this. Duck
now that for me the town of proud.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Cowards And i'm all for, them and Maybe i'll move
To Cape coral at some stage in my life and
get around some.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Of My so you're, saying another example of a proud
coward is like somebody who you, know if they got
conscripted to go to, war they're just you, KNOW i
leave the.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Country, Absolutely, No I'm I'm i'm, patriotic So i'd go to.
WAR i don't think you? Would, YES i?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Would you?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
WOULD i think you'd moved to This Almona, no, YES i.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Would, NO i would, Go AND i. Disagree that is
just that's just a you will do WHAT i have
to do to keep this country.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Safe and you know that's Just i'm against war, obviously
but IF i got CONSCRIPTED i would, go but if
there's a noise in the, shed SOMETIMES i call the.
Cops you know WHAT i, meant rather than go. Outside proud,
coward we're. Back are you proud? Coward come and be,
honest join.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Me it's. Nice get it off your. Chest you're proud
to be a. Coward that's. It proud.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Cowards we've all known there's like cowards out. There BUT
i think it's a nice moment in your life when
you accept the fact that.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
You are a coward and you become proud of. It i'm.
There i'm.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
There on an incident recently WHERE i accidentally walked into
a cubicle AND i didn't, realize but there was a,
woman an elderly woman in.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
There she didn't lock the. Door was at the cafe
with you when you're into the.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Toilet, yeah not my, fault but she's gotten lock the
door And i've opened the door and she was standing,
up wasn't she was because she stood up because she'd
gone to close the, door because she heard the rattle
of the door with trousers. Down trousers, down and then
so rather than you, know go sorry and then wait
for it to come out and, APOLOGIZE i ran.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
AWAY i just, ran AND i never wanted to deal with.
It and then she came and sat back to the
table next to. Us, yeah AND i had to leave.
Immediately obviously kind of proud.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Coward AND i find the funny thing about proud cowards
specifically you actually is obviously that naturally you gravitate towards
people who are going to do your dirty work for.
You you, know they are going to do the confrontational
and stuff for. You so you got, Me you Got
mim as, well Good mim likes getting in. THERE a
couple of examples for. You, firstly if you AND i
get you, know sometimes you AND i get send a
(37:25):
proposal for you, know something to do for a client
or something like. That Sometimes i'll suggest a, video, right
and sometimes the video will be the stinkiest video idea
you've ever seen in your. Life and rather than, going,
hey will not? Sure you, know hey, guys not sure
about this, One you'll just write in the, email bloody love?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
This what do you? Think will bloody love? This? Geez
this will be a hot video for? Us will? Vote
what do you?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
THINK i wouldn't want to do it without your Cont
and Then i'm not sure about.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Odd, jeez we'll be a bit, precious aren't. We BUT
i have to agree with. Him, SORRY i don't have
to say.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
No We, also whenever we're in negotiation meetings or like
any meeting were in where there's like just a little
bit of like maybe slight confrontation going, ON i always
make sure that there's always lollies in these big, officers
AND i just crammed lollies into my, mouth and then
whenever they look to me for a, Comment i'm, like for, them.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Let's got to Worry. Warwick, hi, guys how are you?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Hell i'm, outstanding, mate great to be a proud, coward
runners through a proud coward or.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
Not but, ANYWAY i, mean if you're a, coward who
gives a damn as long as.
Speaker 9 (38:31):
You're a good.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Blake, yeah, yeah go on. Mate oh, NO i was
just wringing.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
YOU i couldn't believe you answered the. PHONE i got through.
It but, Anyway i'm driving.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Home my, phone my phone.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
Rings it's if it's my it's the.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Duck And i'm hearing the ducks.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
Here i'm, thinking oh, ship where's the? Phone and THEN
i suddenly realized there it. Is, Yes, oh, dear how are?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
You, yeah hang, on you've got, Us, worrick because you
want to let us know that when you heard us
play the duck sound, effect you thought it was your phone.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Ringing, correct that's standing. Warrick that is.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
Again one of my sons has Got i've got A
clashton horn for somebody else and a.
Speaker 6 (39:16):
Horse knowing.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
It's been going to have you, on, Mate we'll make
sure not to play any horse sound effects while your,
warrick otherwise you'll think someone else is.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Calling you had to Have worrick on the show, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Now what you were talking, about the fact that you
hid in the front. Room, yes and the other day
while people came and picked up your outdoor. Furniture, yes
it's part of A facebook marketplace. Exchange, YES i didn't want.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
TO i didn't want to walk out there BECAUSE i
KNEW i would have had to offer Because i'm a good,
person so rather than just kind of undo that doesn't
it definitely because you're, like you're insisting that you are
a good, person BUT i think we're hiding from the.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Work then you, know technically that makes you a bad.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
PERSON i can see it that way, Now BUT i
didn't want to deal with that. Confrontation SO i hid
in the. House, yeah and then there was just no
chance that conversation was going to come. Up, Sure i'm not,
there SO i DON'T i don't.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
EXIST i would AM i getting some inside on.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
This, So, mimi your wife is called heymm, hey isn't?
Speaker 3 (40:09):
It is that actually what?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Happened, WELL i.
Speaker 8 (40:13):
Don't know if you could be like proud, cow considering
your wife's currently pregnant and she was outside in the
cold helping them move things in and out of the,
yeah out of the.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Garden so you've sun, this did?
Speaker 1 (40:25):
You you weren't, helping you were not, well actually don't
know BECAUSE i was hiding in the front, room to be,
fair
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