May 19, 2025 • 36 mins
- Is sharing food ok when you go out for dinner?
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The Will and Woody podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
My Date Night with my Beautiful Wife.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It's almost ruined last night because of one thing that
restaurants are doing.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And gee wiz, does it get up my goat? So
beautiful restaurant.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I think it gets your goat. I don't think it
gets up your goat.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Gets my goat. It gets up my goat and that
expression it's doing something.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Bad getting up a goat, mate, Well it gets up
a dog. Get a dog up, yeah, potentially, but there's
no goat getting anything up.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The point I'm trying to make is it does negative
things to me that makes me angry.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So basically, we sat down and we're reading the menu
and we realize.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
That this is one of those restaurants that does share food.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
My beautiful wife looks at me and she says, hey,
do you want to share food during the meal. And
whenever she says something like this, this song comes to mind.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
I won't will I won't do it. It is the
most frustrating thing that can happen at a restaurant, the
idea of sharing food. And I'll tell you why, because
the food comes out right and you know, you don't
known that food that's not yours that is now share food,
that is now share food, and you are constantly thinking, okay,
(01:26):
am I being selfish by having too much?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And you live with that guilt. Maybe I've taken too
big of a portion. Shit, I have taken the leg
of chicken? Was that rude of me to take the
whole leg of chicken? Alternatively, you deliberately hold back, and
then at the end of the meal you're a bit
pissed off because you don't think you got your fair share.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You never nail it.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Whereas if I order a meal for me and I
eat that entire meal, I'm a happy boy.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Now, try and.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Defend sharing food, because I think I've perfectly canvassed that
it's just a shocking thing to well.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I think some people would say that sharing food is
arguably the best partner with the definitive part of sharing
a meal. That's that's probably why sharing food is so good.
It brings people together.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That we're together. She's sitting six inches away.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
You're sharing something, so you bite commune. Do you think
the fact that it does sound a lot like and
I don't want to put you in therapy here, but
it does. I won't do it. I promise I won't
bring up you, mum, But I think that share like,
I do think that that that this probably says more
about you than it does about the sharing of the food,
doesn't it. No, No, it does, or the fact that
(02:29):
you're so concerned about what people think about you that
you're not sure whether you should take what's actually yours.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now, Okay, that's a fair point, like to continue down
the show.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Not really, Well, a lot of people would be like me,
and I think there are a lot of people listening
right now that feel the same stress that I feel
when the share food comes at?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
What What should I appropriately.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Thin that could happen if somebody thought that you took
a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
If I'm in a group environment, other couples would go
home and go did you say, would he had the
three serves of the lamb?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But surely when they're.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
All on me?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Surely when you look at a shareplate like what I
look a shareplate and let's say how many people that
are within the group, I just divide what I see
with my eyes into the amount of people that are there.
So I'm like, okay, well there's you know, there's six
pieces of lamb, there's six of us, that's a piece each.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's always a bit sometimes it'd be a bit confusing.
Sometimes it's like sometimes you know what you've got on
your face? What's on my face?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
A mouth? Right? And then you open that up and
you go, okay, guys say, look, we might be one
less here. Does any want to go halves with this
final piece of lamb with me?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But I don't look like and they're being too nice
if they say yes, did.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You really mean it?
Speaker 7 (03:34):
Ye? Problem?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
The problem?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
You know, I want to put it out there. Thirteen
one oh six five is the number? Where are we
at with sharing food at restaurants?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You've also got a pathetic mustache on your face?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What right?
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Now?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
We're just in general. We were at a gastro pub.
I know the pub you were at. It's a fancy pub.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
No, I didn't realize your flashing there, and I didn't
think fancy pub meant we share our food. And it
just it frustrates me because I just get stressed. I'm
either stressed about feeling guilty of taking too much or
I'm a little bit annoyed that maybe I don't think
I got my fair share.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
And as I said, you in the song just there, and
you know that my remedy for this is just order
too much.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Okay, now I've got to rebuttle to that.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Order a lot of share plates.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'll get that, but sometimes I won't over order because
I'll be like, maybe there's some people here that are
gonna be uncomfortable with how much money I'm spending.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Or then more often than not, I'll go, let's get
three of the chips, and someone someone at.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
The table is going to go, oh, I don't think
we need three, And then it's like, well, I'm going
to be watching you like a.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Hawk, and if you have a lot of chips and
I'm going to be.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Bringing you're not going to bring it up, though I
will in the car with my wife sixty five brook
you on the way in.
Speaker 8 (04:43):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 9 (04:44):
I'm so all about hating shared too.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
What's what's your what's your main beef? Mind the part
with sheer.
Speaker 9 (04:49):
For well, it's literally like I don't want to look
like a pig if half of the plate or more
than half of the plate is left, and like I'm
like hungry, but I feel guilty about eating it because
then I'm like, look it like a faddy. Or but
I just want my.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Money's worth one hundred.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I hear that, thanks for the call reason cover solid
food puns in there. We can keep them going.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Let's go to Delize. Here, am I saying your name correctly? Delease?
You are outstanding? What are your thoughts on share for Delease?
Speaker 10 (05:19):
If I know it's a share restaurant, I'm open to that,
if that's the choice that I've made. But we actually
have some really lovely friends. But if we go to
a share restaurant, we all share, but they don't but
they share with each other?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
What or.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
How do they bring that up? How do they how
do they bring that.
Speaker 10 (05:39):
To the I can remember the first time we all
went out together. Okay, right, we're all going to share. No, no,
you guys organize what you're going to share, but we'll
just order our own that we're going to share with
each other.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
What about a bite would you get? Would you get
a bite out of that couple?
Speaker 10 (05:57):
It's really funny because that particular time we did our
own thing, as I've just said, and then I think
one of the other couples somebody left something on their plate,
so they left home and went, you're not eating that.
I'll have that it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Sounds like a terriby.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Does it annoy you?
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Why?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Why does it annoy ever around so much?
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Like?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Why does that annoy you so much? Realise I feelt
this is a little bit late, Like.
Speaker 10 (06:22):
Me, I've been brought up. If you go out and
you all are sharing, you're sharing the point.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Of sharing the bill gets hard.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Will let's be honest, Like if the couple have done
their own thing over in the corner there and haven't
engaged in the share, and I can't believe I'm arguing
for sharing you now, but I just like fairness at
the end of the day, feels what are we doing
with the bill?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Like, well, that's that for me, that's a fifty to fifty.
That's delease and her squeeze go go half and then
the others go half. She don't mind that because we
were saying this song that there is a difference between
sharing with your partner and sharing with the group.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I think you can be more honest with your partner
as well.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, you know, if if I felt like Mim took
more than half, I think we're at a stage in
our relationship, Rubb be comfortable to say, hey, put a
wing ba.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I'd like to think. I'd like to think, so, oh
you see you just check with him? What it's a
quick tally in semini. There's a very quick time. You
look down it at the first I go, I go
three h It's an honesty system, you know. When there's oysters,
you look up and you go you've had You've had two,
haven't you?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And you can see the shells are there, the chicken
wings is eyes.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Oh my god, I've got a boneyard here, gott to
throw them on the floor.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Let's go to Sam here, Sam, what are your thoughts
on sheer food?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Shemy doesn't share a fruit?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Guy, I don't know why I'm reading this story, but look,
let's on surface value. There's a bloke who's recorded his
nineteenth climb of Mount Everest.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Why would you bother doing it nineteen?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Like you've done it nine nineteen times. He has climbed
the twenty nine thousand feet to get to the top.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Of it fresh.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It's very impressive.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
But I have a lot of God to have a
lot of time on his hand.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Do another mountain?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Like just surely like there's more new experience to do it.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
In the mountaineering game, so I get this story and
I'm like, oh, good on him, you know he's that's
just great. And then I read further down that it's
not that he doesn't even it doesn't even hold the record.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Who's done it more than not.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
He's the nineteenth time for the he holds the record
for the non sirper category. Yeah, it just seems ridiculous. Well,
he doesn't even have the record.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Why create that?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Are we doing that?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
We're all human beings.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I've ever heard good on you? Mate?
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Why?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Why do why does a white person get a separate
category just because he's got enough money and time to
go on? Anyway, blame producer Georgia. She sent me the story.
I thought it was really cool. The other thing I
thought that was really obviously race a whole lot. Anyway,
the other thing I thought was funny about this guy.
His name's Kenton Cool. He was just absolutely outrageous. But anyway,
(09:08):
the actual shirper that holds the record, he's done it
thirty one times.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'll cop that Kenton.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Ridiculous story, but it was funny. I asked you before
the song, how many times do you think the record
is for climbing everest? Right? And you said five or six,
five or six, which just kind of proved to me
the something which I believed for a long time but
only kind of like crystallized for me when I read
this story. And that is, if you're going to brag
(09:38):
about something cool that you've done, or particularly if it's
a physical feat, stop using numbers to justify it, because
often people on the outside don't know the metrics. If
you talk to somebody, if you're into cricket or you're golf,
you play a lot of golf. Stalking about the handicap, Yeah,
(10:00):
you are so far on the outside. Captain Poop Pount's
arap walks in there every day or what are we
calling him now? Yeah, it'll and he rolls in and
he's like, guys, got my handicapped out and we don't
know what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Seventeen point five a much, you've gone to a decimal point,
You loser, It.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Just doesn't matter, you don't And you kind of stand
there and you go like, I don't know what I mean?
Speaker 10 (10:22):
Is that good?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
To be honest, is that good?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Or is that I'd say it's okay, but who cares?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, it's even like when but this can be across
you know, people when they do their fun runs doing
producer A rely said a fund run recently. The time
we are we have water that way in what world?
Did the hours and the hours and minutes mean anything?
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yah.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Do you ever do it?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Do you ever?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Do you ever find yourself?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I can find myself to it, yeah, only occasionally. Yeah, yeah,
I found myself doing it before. In the airlock. Actually,
I was getting asked about my swimming.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's interesting you mentioned that because you've got to record.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
That's what I was getting asked about.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
It didn't take much, well, it did not.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
What do you ask me?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Mudge like, we barely brought it up and you go, my.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Friend, do you ever raise people in the lane?
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Next year?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
What do you think if there's anyone in front of
me in my lane? Is my commission to mow that down?
T care flatstream an extra five hundred meters? Love it?
So if I get the sense of they're not to
sixty second fifty, I'd probably assume like a thirty second pig. Well,
I'm not coming from the people's spread out and touch
are the people who block up and they're not.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Nor mistiamers and they go.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Oh, I'm going to go on to them ak and
a half today, put my twenty five flaps in. You
shouldn't be in the pool. The quick lane is for
the people who are swimming two o'clock. Are dissimming sense,
How do you know that you are doing quite a
time myself, because I've been fifties on a forty five,
So I say, I'm gonnasume fifty meters every forty five seconds, so.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You get fifteen seconds rest if you punch.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Out the field, so I gets harder and harder over
the fourth of ut tenth. You didn't end there, my friends,
some moments where you just want the earth to swallow
you up.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You didn't to end there.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Just six sprints at the end, like sprinting at the end.
Total two k.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
That'n't gonna trying to be in a warm up two
hundred minute And remember and.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Very impressive. I have myself so much too impressive.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Oh, you guys, that is such a trap.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And we all knew, we all knew it.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Was just so easy to You can't question me about
that stuff. That's not fair. That's not fair. I hate
all of you. Will end woodies, all right, So the
quiz is up next, right now though thirteen one and
six five? Do you use language in your workplace that
(12:45):
people outside your work just wouldn't understand? Give us called
thirteen one and six five. So the way we're gonna
do this is people going to use the lingo and
then firstly we're going to try and keep the conversation going,
and then we might be able to try and guess
where that lingo is from, what profession that lingo is from.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So I'm up first, I reckon ema, hello, crack into
your lingo in your profession that you think only you
and your colleagues would know.
Speaker 11 (13:16):
All right, So today we have two hundred packs.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
We have no.
Speaker 11 (13:22):
APU shall be attached to a GPU for the day.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I'm trying to think, did you want to borrow some
gp us from me or you coming?
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (13:34):
Yeah, I think there's just one of them probably available.
Do you think that you're in a position to give that.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
To us to you by c O B? Can I
have some of your tp us though? Can I trade
you a TPU for a c g U?
Speaker 11 (13:50):
I'm not just not sure what that one is because
we use that at my job. I don't know about yours?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Do you do you keep the un c g U
is it?
Speaker 11 (13:59):
Would you like a hint for what?
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
You said hang on packs? You did batteries. You work
in batteries.
Speaker 8 (14:08):
Incorrect?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Pass Three of the packs are babies and one of them.
Speaker 11 (14:17):
Need some assistance.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Are your nurse?
Speaker 8 (14:20):
No?
Speaker 11 (14:21):
Incorrect?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Three of the packs of babies.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, you're a zoologist?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (14:28):
Oh yeah, exactly not wrong?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Wrong again? Right, So you don't work You're not a zoologist.
Speaker 11 (14:37):
No, this is very embarrassing for you.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Are you?
Speaker 8 (14:41):
I'm not a vet.
Speaker 11 (14:42):
No, I don't work with animals.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Three packs of babies? Are you talking formula?
Speaker 12 (14:49):
No?
Speaker 11 (14:50):
But that's I guess that's.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
No.
Speaker 11 (14:53):
I'm trying to think of another word for you.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
What are you doing?
Speaker 11 (14:58):
Flight attendant Passengers AP an airpack unit gives you the
air conditioning on the plane.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
Wow, I know.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
In PAX like they're using the restaurant game.
Speaker 13 (15:14):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Wow, that was really confusing.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So well done, Emma, well done with zero.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
This is going to be really hard. Then we're going
to learn something though. All right, Jen, welcome to lingo bingo.
You used so please just let's just kick it off
with the language that you use in your workplace, and
we're going to try and keep the convo going.
Speaker 14 (15:36):
Okay, today I used fifteen fractions of gray with eighteen
percent of the posterior.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Oh yeah, beautiful, fifteen fractions of gray with the with
the with the fraction on the posterior on the posterior,
was it there, Gin?
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (15:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Interesting? Oh I personally use fifteen fractions of white earlier.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Does that sound about right to you?
Speaker 14 (16:08):
No? No, not really?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Okay, Jen, So I prost you. I'm guessing there's something
to do with anatomy there. Maybe. Are you a radiologist?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Close body painter?
Speaker 7 (16:25):
No?
Speaker 14 (16:25):
Definitely not a body painter. We do, we do do
tattooing where we are lasering?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
You're a laserer?
Speaker 14 (16:34):
No?
Speaker 7 (16:35):
No, definitely not you do tattooing.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Do you work in prosthetics?
Speaker 14 (16:40):
Definitely not?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Oh gosh, but I was close with radiology.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
You work close cat scanner.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
It's the flight attendant, No joke, Jenna? Where Jen? What
are you working?
Speaker 14 (16:58):
Radiation oncology?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
So what's the grays? What's the gray thing there?
Speaker 14 (17:04):
That is the dose of the radiation that the person
is receiving when they come to us, And fifteen fraction
means that they're having fifteen doses of the gray and so.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
On the posterior. It's just you're going from behind.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yes, yeah, good one woulds bring that one home with
the bank. One of the great joys of life is
watching somebody over the age of sixty thrash something about
because they're frustrated with it. Old people beautifully unafraid to
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break things when they're angry at them as well. It's
a lost art as far as I'm concerned. The rock
rock stars don't smash guitars anymore. Woods they used to.
It was great. It was a great bed. It was
a great bed.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
So we've got healthier dealing with our emotions these days.
But the boomers have held onto the I don't like
dealing with emotions, so I just smashed the.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Want to take it out on an animate object.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
It's more entertaining to watch.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
So I've got a great story here, thirty one and
six five years a story about a boomer breaking something
in anger. I've got a great story here about and
this guy, by the way, before I go into the story,
the guy that we're talking about, he was on the
council of this this Midwest town, right random, This seven
year old girl takes her drone for a flight. I
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think she gets a drone for a birthday, beautiful sunny day.
She's in the middle of nowhere, you know. I think,
you know, she might have got the gift from charity.
I imagine she's an orphan. She's flying the drone out, you know,
just enjoying the sunshine, when all of a sudden, the
drone takes two twenty two shotgunflience.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Got shot down. Her drone got shot down.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
She manages to fly the drone back to her house, amazing,
but it's badly damaged. It's been hit by a shotgun.
Speaker 15 (18:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Anyway, they do a little bit of a.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Do it got the footage.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
They do a little bit of a scope of the area,
and they find they find this guy, Peter, who's, as
I said, he is a shy counselor. Peter. They find him,
They find him. They go to his gun cabinet. There's
two two live twenty two caliber rounds which have been
shot very recently.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Peter, what do you reckon Peter was doing in his
backyard to be so embarrassed that he had to shoot
down the drunk.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
He's in the Midwest of America. Made, I reckon, that's
just what they call a nice afternoon. So he's sitting
out there with his gun, and it turns out he
shot the drone. Shot the drone out of this guy. Yeah,
great shot. He went on. He went to court for it,
and he said that he was authorized to shoot pests.
(19:44):
Not bad but peter, which is a closing Boomer defense, I imagine,
because let's face it, all Boomers treat drones as pests
and they will never understand that. But that doesn't mean
that you can shoot it with a gun. So A said,
I do think there's a wonderful stories if you've got
a good one that comes to mind. My four year
old teacher, sorry, my year four teacher, missus Smith. She
(20:11):
she good cover. She once. I remember the day that
she she threw a printer across the classroom, like one
of those old school lady printers.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah four, it's twenty five, thirty years ago, so that's
that's a whopper, big printer.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah yeah, strong old school laser. Yet there's the trunchport and.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
She ripped the cord out of the wall, right, came
with it, came with it court at all.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
That's always funny.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Well, I think the court. Yeah, the cord would have
stopped it a little bit, but she frisbee this thing
straight at Tali Thompson's head and lucky he darked because
it shattered on the wall behind him. She threw a
printer at a kid, would have killed him. Thirty six
fine her up there. I can't don't actually remember. I
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think it was because he mispronounced the word ute. He said, oh,
track ifrigerating. That's actually exactly what it was. You were
trying to get him say ute for the whole year.
Very good, always good moments, the best. Nathan's killed, Nathan,
(21:25):
This is your dad.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Are you whistling, Nathan? Sorry?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Just enjoying the Neil Young? Were you Nathan talk to
talk to his mate? What did a boom of breaking angle?
Speaker 7 (21:38):
Man? Ah?
Speaker 16 (21:39):
So it was about dinner time, about six pm. Yeah,
about a week straight off. Telemarketers calling it from the
landline phone watching TV and that was like fuck, f
this so my bad voice, my bad oh.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
And unfortunately Nathan has sworn, which means for you guys,
we're just gonna go to a quick message and then
we'll be back on the other side with more calls
of what's a bit of breaking anger and we're back
and I look, I am enjoying these cars. I feel
like your dad would have broken a few things in
anger Woods surprisingly controlled with I think that is such
(22:18):
a tight ass.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Honestly, like he just overthinks like I couldn't possibly do
any damage to the house because quite.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Because you're right, Like Dad seems like the kind of
person that I think.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, absolutely doesn't want to do it.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I feel like it's going to be a classic Dad topic.
So thirty what it's excited? If you have got more
calls like this, are we going to go back to Nathan.
We're going to give him a second shot at the title, Nate,
do you want to give it another go, big.
Speaker 16 (22:45):
Fell Yeah, I'll give it one more shot.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No swearing though, Nathan, We're trusting you.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Your dad gets I'll take you to the place he
gets bold calls to the telemarketers. Oh thanks, Nathan, it's
very sweety. But your dad. Let's just get to this
story here, Nate's day with me. Okay, see your.
Speaker 12 (23:02):
Dad carry on dinner time, six pm, watching TV, decides
to get up with the phone out of the wall. Yeah,
I think a good old tosh to learn one phone
ye to sling across the room. Oh, throwing off his
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head and then yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Its standard stuff, Nate.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
And I'm so glad we came back for that. Give
Nathan final a pillow because that, I mean the Nations
waited thirty seconds through a dummy and that we did
ask Gary Bee whether we should go back to Nathan.
We got the double thumbs up.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
So that's just it's always a worry when someone finishes
the story.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It's like, and that's it, right, Julie, Julie, we're taking
calls just to remind everybody what is a boomer broken
and anger? Julie, what you got is your ex.
Speaker 17 (23:58):
It was my ex husband and he couldn't get the
lawnmower started, so he took took a hammer to its.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Particularly lawnmowers very very susceptible.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's not starting. Sorry give you this, Julie, Like, so
hammer v. Lawnmark.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Because the other thing which I find very funny about
boomers cracking it and trying to break things is when
they go to break it and they fail.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
They don't realize how strong the lawnmowers. Like, did he
beat the lawnmower, Julie?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
He did he beat it really hard, And the funniest
part was I could hear the man next door trying
to start his lawnmower, and of course that I've put
my head out the door and I've just said to him,
I love I think the man next door needs to
burrow your hammer.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Julie, I did, Julie under you're no longer together, Lisa
on thirty when it's five. I love this. I love
these just women just doubbing in their husband. Lisa, what
did a boomer break in anger?
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (25:01):
So, my husband's really competitive at golf and went through
a stage where he just couldn't handle losing against his
best mates. So every time he lost or wasn't happy
with his score, he would snap a club. My son
also works at the local club where my husband plays,
(25:22):
so I got him to organize that next time. They
went in a group to bad my husband from playing
because I'm sick. Well, we're all sick of having to
pay for your club.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Brilliant, brilliant. How'd that go, Lisa?
Speaker 8 (25:35):
It was a bit of a joke, so they ended
up letting him on. But yeah, everyone got involved in it,
just to teach him a lesson of bad sportsmanship.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, good, lesson Lis to snap a golf club over.
It's pretty impressive, right. I would have thought maybe with
the carbon fiber ones it might be easier. Yeah, potentially
Gilmore and.
Speaker 15 (25:57):
The big guy Benzy, Yeah yeah, yeah, that looks tough, Vicky.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
He absolutely yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I think there's a more lightweight these days.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Vicky.
Speaker 15 (26:15):
Well, if I'm a boomer, this is you something, Vicky.
Speaker 13 (26:23):
I've broken a lot of things in anger, but technology
that wear's missing. I just can't my fingers as small
as what I am.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I pressed the wrong buttons. I've smashed so many phones.
Speaker 13 (26:36):
But I took to having a plate smashing cuppet, and
I've got it near my back door.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
And what I do is I go.
Speaker 13 (26:44):
To a lot of op shops buy opp old plate
just to smash, and when I'm really having a day,
I stand at the back door, open it up and
I smash as many.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
As I like.
Speaker 13 (27:00):
Then later on I got to go and pick them
all up. So it's one of those things that you
just can't keep banging head against the wall and you
keep bleeding. You know, you just got to keep trying.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
She's got a plate smashing cupboard. Get his right, every
time that you get frustrated with your phone, you go
to a cupboard next to your back door full of
plates and you smash your.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
Plate, phone, kids, anything, Woods.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It feels like there couldn't be a more point in
time to be talking about mental health with the passing
of another cell would brother in the AFL recently last
week it was it was really full on if you're
not across that obviously Troy cell would pass away and
then Adam Selwood's twin brother most recently, and it's just shocking,
(28:05):
and I think everybody is shocked. I think scared is
starting to be the word that sort of creeps in
and around this at the moment. I'm suicide at this level,
I think.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
People might have had the same experience as me.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
When I saw the news pop up on Saturday, I
assumed there was a typo with the news because you know,
that was months ago that Troy Sellwood passed away. But
to think that his twin brother also goes months later, Yep.
It's really hard to put words to how devastating it is.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah, and almost nonsensical for people that on the outside,
this is the you know, the great tragedy with suicide
with people on the outside who look happy, you know, healthy,
have had a lot in their lives. They've been successful,
they've known success, you know, they've got families. The idea
of ending your life prematurely seems like the most foreign
thing in the world, and yet tragically, for a lot
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of these people in this position, that is the only opportunity,
that's the only thing they have left to do, which
just doesn't make a lot of sense. And I think
it's worth exploring why and how people at that point
get here, and hence how for everyone listening right now
you can think a little bit more about how something
like suicide might impact your life. Look, the lifeline number
is the ten eleven fourteen. If you want to talk
to somebody and you need to speak to someone right now,
(29:16):
that's a great service we've got in Australia. We've got
Hugh van Kyleenberg from the Resilience Project and The Imperfects
who joins us right now. Hugh, great to have you
back on, Will and Woody. So the reason we've got
you on today, obviously you've got a wealth of experience
in the mental health space. Anyone listening to The Imperfects
would know that. But specifically, You've worked with a lot
(29:36):
of elite sports teams, mate, could you give us a
bit of a layer of the land there who you've
worked with.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Yeah, guys, thanks for having me on. Yeah, it's so sad.
I just feel so sad today and have for the
last couple of days on this. But yeah, I have
been so so lucky to work with I guess like
twelve of the AFL teams, all of every one of
the NRL teams, everyone of the Ileague teams, Australian Cricket team,
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men and women and materialism. But yeah, I just just
a lot and I do I do when I work
with them. I mean they're like we see them on
TV and they look physically they're so strong and resilient,
and you know, I do a lot of stuff at
the Queens downstaud of Orizon team. You can't get a
(30:23):
stronger looking group of people. When something else happens, it
reminds you they Yeah, they're human like the rest of us,
and they have their struggles. And I remember when the
first of the twins passed away. I remember just looking
at the folk of the family at the funeral, standing
there and I was just fixated on the other twins,
(30:45):
I come and begin to imagine what that paint is
and so yeah, to hear that news on the weekend
is utterly devastating.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yeah, it really is, mate.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
It's hard to talk about.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
It's just so unbelievably sad.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, what would your huge So if you were working
with a football club and not necessarily talking specifically about
the Selwood brothers now, but there's a player in that
club who is struggling with their mental health and you've
noticed that or picked up on that. What kind of
things are you doing with that player to work through
that if they do have the elite sport to grapple
(31:20):
with at the same time.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
But I can give you an example, and I can
talk about this because this player went actually he wrote
an article about this that was in the paper. This
is about five or six years ago now, so this
is not speaking without his permission here. But Charlie Dixon,
when I was at Port Adelaid Football Club, we would
talk a lot about the battles he was having with
his mental health, more specifically depression. And I remember saying
(31:44):
to him, who do you talk to a cub about this?
And he said no one, And I said, oh, why
is that And he said, well, my role is to
be really tough and strong, and I don't want to
appear to be not that way. And I said, if
one of your teammates, if one of your teammates spoke
to you about the press, which you think that was weak?
And he said no, I think it was very strong.
And I said, wasn't it any different for you? And
(32:04):
he just kind of nodded and he just he could
tell his understood. And over the next six months, he
wrote a letter through his teammates to tell them what
he was going through, but also thanking them because they're
the ones who kept him going the whole time. And
I was there when he read it out to them.
I was there he read the letter out to them
to explain in detail what he was going through, and
it was, to this day one of the most moving
things I've ever seen. I accidentally booked a very small room,
(32:26):
so it's a very tight quartism, and there were forty
men all hugging him at the end, and he said
that was the start of his recovery. So it's a
long story, but I share that story because I do
think that being vulnerable and sharing what you're going through
is the only answer there. Because I think when you
send a message to the world, or at least the
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people around you, that I'm not coping, the world wraps
its arms around you.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
For somebody who is struggling right now from your experience
and all the stuff that you guys do on the
imperfects and stuff where vulnerability is breathe and cherished and
loved and made into such a wonderful space. How does
somebody who listens to the imperfect or here's a story
just then about Charlie Dixon, when that language seems so
(33:11):
foreign to them. What's the first step somebody could maybe
take to start trying to crack their heart open a
little bit and share a bit of the load.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I would say, as the first step, I would say,
down what's in your head? Because I feel like saying
go and see a health professional, go and see a doctor,
or going people aren't really doing that. It feels like
such a monumental step. So I would say, very realistically,
the first thing you could probably do is just right
down what is in your head?
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Right down?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
How are you feeling right down? Why you think you
feel like that? Writ down why you feel lost?
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Right down?
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Why you feel stuck, and when it's on the page
in front of you, just give it some time and
then just look at it and think, Okay, it's out
of my head. Who is someone in my life that
I could maybe start to talk to. Who's someone I
could I trusted?
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Love?
Speaker 5 (34:00):
No, love me that I could say this stuff too,
Because when you start to share it, the end goal
we want is for people to serve a psychologists and
to say a therapist and work through it. But I
mean the amount of families I speak to. I spoke
to a woman up in Mildua last week who has
been through Her partner took his life when they were
pregnant with their third child eight and a half month,
(34:21):
and she said she just didn't see it coming at all.
I think so often men will keep it all inside
because they're just too afraid to talk about it. So
get it out of your head on the paper and
then who can I share this with?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Hey a you hugh good advice?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
What are the signs to pick up on, maybe on
if there's a man in your life, whether it's a
friend or partner, Are there any signs you can pick
up on to kind of kind of twig that maybe
they're not.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Right sometimes, yeah, there are sometimes, but sometimes there's not.
And I just for anyone listening who has lost someone
to suicide, you know you probably didn't miss anything. I
think a lot of men are really holding inside. But
I think, you know, things like irritability or maybe a
much shorter temper penny of my life. If you're listening,
that's not me. I'm just enable to. But yeah, I
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think a change of sleep patterns a really big one
as well. Struck struggling to sleep, feeling like they're a
bit more reclusive, a little bit more distant. They are
other things, but they're not. It's not always, unfortunately, that
owes it to spot.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
No, that's the issue that's there. That's why this is
such an epidemic. Is it's nearly impossible. It's a spot. Hugh.
Thanks so much for joining us, Mate, and for sharing,
as always your insights and your wisdom. You can listen
to you and the Imperfect podcast, so you can. I mean,
you can see this guy anyway. Honestly, I saw a
Resilience Project poster taped up at my daughter's daycare on
(35:42):
the weekend and I was like, Jesus, we can leave
me alone. Van carlen Berg.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
I'm running around town.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
He's doing the kindergartens, he's expanding.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
He's also a wonderful man with a great message who's
already touched a lot of hearts and continues to break barriers. So, Hugh,
thank you so much for your mate. We love you
and thanks for your wise words. Love you very much, boys,
Thank you, thanks, may see you later, Hugh Van kylen Berg.
There on Will and Woody Lifeline thirteen eleven fourteen is
the number to call there. It's a big problem, guys.
(36:13):
It's a problem with not a lot of answers, and
it really is reliant on the people who are suffering
to start finding ways to get in touch with how
they're suffering and communicate that.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Because great step to right it, and I think take
away the pressure of showing someone as well. I'd like
it's just first step, write it down and you don't
have to get it twenty one.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But I think that's so good from you.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Absolutely see your thoughts and then maybe you can find
some space between them and away from them.
The Will and Woody podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
My Date Night with my Beautiful Wife.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It's almost ruined last night because of one thing that
restaurants are doing.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And gee wiz, does it get up my goat? So
beautiful restaurant.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I think it gets your goat. I don't think it
gets up your goat.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Gets my goat. It gets up my goat and that
expression it's doing something.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Bad getting up a goat, mate, Well it gets up
a dog. Get a dog up, yeah, potentially, but there's
no goat getting anything up.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The point I'm trying to make is it does negative
things to me that makes me angry.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So basically, we sat down and we're reading the menu
and we realize.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
That this is one of those restaurants that does share food.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
My beautiful wife looks at me and she says, hey,
do you want to share food during the meal. And
whenever she says something like this, this song comes to mind.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
I won't will I won't do it. It is the
most frustrating thing that can happen at a restaurant, the
idea of sharing food. And I'll tell you why, because
the food comes out right and you know, you don't
known that food that's not yours that is now share food,
that is now share food, and you are constantly thinking, okay,
(01:26):
am I being selfish by having too much?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And you live with that guilt. Maybe I've taken too
big of a portion. Shit, I have taken the leg
of chicken? Was that rude of me to take the
whole leg of chicken? Alternatively, you deliberately hold back, and
then at the end of the meal you're a bit
pissed off because you don't think you got your fair share.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You never nail it.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Whereas if I order a meal for me and I
eat that entire meal, I'm a happy boy.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Now, try and.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Defend sharing food, because I think I've perfectly canvassed that
it's just a shocking thing to well.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I think some people would say that sharing food is
arguably the best partner with the definitive part of sharing
a meal. That's that's probably why sharing food is so good.
It brings people together.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That we're together. She's sitting six inches away.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
You're sharing something, so you bite commune. Do you think
the fact that it does sound a lot like and
I don't want to put you in therapy here, but
it does. I won't do it. I promise I won't
bring up you, mum, But I think that share like,
I do think that that that this probably says more
about you than it does about the sharing of the food,
doesn't it. No, No, it does, or the fact that
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you're so concerned about what people think about you that
you're not sure whether you should take what's actually yours.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now, Okay, that's a fair point, like to continue down
the show.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Not really, Well, a lot of people would be like me,
and I think there are a lot of people listening
right now that feel the same stress that I feel
when the share food comes at?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
What What should I appropriately.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Thin that could happen if somebody thought that you took
a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
If I'm in a group environment, other couples would go
home and go did you say, would he had the
three serves of the lamb?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But surely when they're.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
All on me?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Surely when you look at a shareplate like what I
look a shareplate and let's say how many people that
are within the group, I just divide what I see
with my eyes into the amount of people that are there.
So I'm like, okay, well there's you know, there's six
pieces of lamb, there's six of us, that's a piece each.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's always a bit sometimes it'd be a bit confusing.
Sometimes it's like sometimes you know what you've got on
your face? What's on my face?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
A mouth? Right? And then you open that up and
you go, okay, guys say, look, we might be one
less here. Does any want to go halves with this
final piece of lamb with me?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But I don't look like and they're being too nice
if they say yes, did.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You really mean it?
Speaker 7 (03:34):
Ye? Problem?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
The problem?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
You know, I want to put it out there. Thirteen
one oh six five is the number? Where are we
at with sharing food at restaurants?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You've also got a pathetic mustache on your face?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What right?
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Now?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
We're just in general. We were at a gastro pub.
I know the pub you were at. It's a fancy pub.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
No, I didn't realize your flashing there, and I didn't
think fancy pub meant we share our food. And it
just it frustrates me because I just get stressed. I'm
either stressed about feeling guilty of taking too much or
I'm a little bit annoyed that maybe I don't think
I got my fair share.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
And as I said, you in the song just there, and
you know that my remedy for this is just order
too much.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Okay, now I've got to rebuttle to that.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Order a lot of share plates.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'll get that, but sometimes I won't over order because
I'll be like, maybe there's some people here that are
gonna be uncomfortable with how much money I'm spending.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Or then more often than not, I'll go, let's get
three of the chips, and someone someone at.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
The table is going to go, oh, I don't think
we need three, And then it's like, well, I'm going
to be watching you like a.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Hawk, and if you have a lot of chips and
I'm going to be.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Bringing you're not going to bring it up, though I
will in the car with my wife sixty five brook
you on the way in.
Speaker 8 (04:43):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 9 (04:44):
I'm so all about hating shared too.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
What's what's your what's your main beef? Mind the part
with sheer.
Speaker 9 (04:49):
For well, it's literally like I don't want to look
like a pig if half of the plate or more
than half of the plate is left, and like I'm
like hungry, but I feel guilty about eating it because
then I'm like, look it like a faddy. Or but
I just want my.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Money's worth one hundred.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I hear that, thanks for the call reason cover solid
food puns in there. We can keep them going.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Let's go to Delize. Here, am I saying your name correctly? Delease?
You are outstanding? What are your thoughts on share for Delease?
Speaker 10 (05:19):
If I know it's a share restaurant, I'm open to that,
if that's the choice that I've made. But we actually
have some really lovely friends. But if we go to
a share restaurant, we all share, but they don't but
they share with each other?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
What or.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
How do they bring that up? How do they how
do they bring that.
Speaker 10 (05:39):
To the I can remember the first time we all
went out together. Okay, right, we're all going to share. No, no,
you guys organize what you're going to share, but we'll
just order our own that we're going to share with
each other.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
What about a bite would you get? Would you get
a bite out of that couple?
Speaker 10 (05:57):
It's really funny because that particular time we did our
own thing, as I've just said, and then I think
one of the other couples somebody left something on their plate,
so they left home and went, you're not eating that.
I'll have that it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Sounds like a terriby.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Does it annoy you?
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Why?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Why does it annoy ever around so much?
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Like?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Why does that annoy you so much? Realise I feelt
this is a little bit late, Like.
Speaker 10 (06:22):
Me, I've been brought up. If you go out and
you all are sharing, you're sharing the point.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Of sharing the bill gets hard.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Will let's be honest, Like if the couple have done
their own thing over in the corner there and haven't
engaged in the share, and I can't believe I'm arguing
for sharing you now, but I just like fairness at
the end of the day, feels what are we doing
with the bill?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Like, well, that's that for me, that's a fifty to fifty.
That's delease and her squeeze go go half and then
the others go half. She don't mind that because we
were saying this song that there is a difference between
sharing with your partner and sharing with the group.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I think you can be more honest with your partner
as well.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, you know, if if I felt like Mim took
more than half, I think we're at a stage in
our relationship, Rubb be comfortable to say, hey, put a
wing ba.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I'd like to think. I'd like to think, so, oh
you see you just check with him? What it's a
quick tally in semini. There's a very quick time. You
look down it at the first I go, I go
three h It's an honesty system, you know. When there's oysters,
you look up and you go you've had You've had two,
haven't you?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And you can see the shells are there, the chicken
wings is eyes.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Oh my god, I've got a boneyard here, gott to
throw them on the floor.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Let's go to Sam here, Sam, what are your thoughts
on sheer food?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Shemy doesn't share a fruit?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Guy, I don't know why I'm reading this story, but look,
let's on surface value. There's a bloke who's recorded his
nineteenth climb of Mount Everest.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Why would you bother doing it nineteen?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Like you've done it nine nineteen times. He has climbed
the twenty nine thousand feet to get to the top.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Of it fresh.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It's very impressive.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
But I have a lot of God to have a
lot of time on his hand.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Do another mountain?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Like just surely like there's more new experience to do it.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
In the mountaineering game, so I get this story and
I'm like, oh, good on him, you know he's that's
just great. And then I read further down that it's
not that he doesn't even it doesn't even hold the record.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Who's done it more than not.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
He's the nineteenth time for the he holds the record
for the non sirper category. Yeah, it just seems ridiculous. Well,
he doesn't even have the record.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Why create that?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Are we doing that?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
We're all human beings.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I've ever heard good on you? Mate?
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Why?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Why do why does a white person get a separate
category just because he's got enough money and time to
go on? Anyway, blame producer Georgia. She sent me the story.
I thought it was really cool. The other thing I
thought that was really obviously race a whole lot. Anyway,
the other thing I thought was funny about this guy.
His name's Kenton Cool. He was just absolutely outrageous. But anyway,
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the actual shirper that holds the record, he's done it
thirty one times.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'll cop that Kenton.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Ridiculous story, but it was funny. I asked you before
the song, how many times do you think the record
is for climbing everest? Right? And you said five or six,
five or six, which just kind of proved to me
the something which I believed for a long time but
only kind of like crystallized for me when I read
this story. And that is, if you're going to brag
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about something cool that you've done, or particularly if it's
a physical feat, stop using numbers to justify it, because
often people on the outside don't know the metrics. If
you talk to somebody, if you're into cricket or you're golf,
you play a lot of golf. Stalking about the handicap, Yeah,
(10:00):
you are so far on the outside. Captain Poop Pount's
arap walks in there every day or what are we
calling him now? Yeah, it'll and he rolls in and
he's like, guys, got my handicapped out and we don't
know what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Seventeen point five a much, you've gone to a decimal point,
You loser, It.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Just doesn't matter, you don't And you kind of stand
there and you go like, I don't know what I mean?
Speaker 10 (10:22):
Is that good?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
To be honest, is that good?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Or is that I'd say it's okay, but who cares?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, it's even like when but this can be across
you know, people when they do their fun runs doing
producer A rely said a fund run recently. The time
we are we have water that way in what world?
Did the hours and the hours and minutes mean anything?
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yah.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Do you ever do it?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Do you ever?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Do you ever find yourself?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I can find myself to it, yeah, only occasionally. Yeah, yeah,
I found myself doing it before. In the airlock. Actually,
I was getting asked about my swimming.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's interesting you mentioned that because you've got to record.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
That's what I was getting asked about.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
It didn't take much, well, it did not.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
What do you ask me?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Mudge like, we barely brought it up and you go, my.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Friend, do you ever raise people in the lane?
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Next year?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
What do you think if there's anyone in front of
me in my lane? Is my commission to mow that down?
T care flatstream an extra five hundred meters? Love it?
So if I get the sense of they're not to
sixty second fifty, I'd probably assume like a thirty second pig. Well,
I'm not coming from the people's spread out and touch
are the people who block up and they're not.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Nor mistiamers and they go.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Oh, I'm going to go on to them ak and
a half today, put my twenty five flaps in. You
shouldn't be in the pool. The quick lane is for
the people who are swimming two o'clock. Are dissimming sense,
How do you know that you are doing quite a
time myself, because I've been fifties on a forty five,
So I say, I'm gonnasume fifty meters every forty five seconds, so.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You get fifteen seconds rest if you punch.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Out the field, so I gets harder and harder over
the fourth of ut tenth. You didn't end there, my friends,
some moments where you just want the earth to swallow
you up.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You didn't to end there.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Just six sprints at the end, like sprinting at the end.
Total two k.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
That'n't gonna trying to be in a warm up two
hundred minute And remember and.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Very impressive. I have myself so much too impressive.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Oh, you guys, that is such a trap.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And we all knew, we all knew it.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Was just so easy to You can't question me about
that stuff. That's not fair. That's not fair. I hate
all of you. Will end woodies, all right, So the
quiz is up next, right now though thirteen one and
six five? Do you use language in your workplace that
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people outside your work just wouldn't understand? Give us called
thirteen one and six five. So the way we're gonna
do this is people going to use the lingo and
then firstly we're going to try and keep the conversation going,
and then we might be able to try and guess
where that lingo is from, what profession that lingo is from.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So I'm up first, I reckon ema, hello, crack into
your lingo in your profession that you think only you
and your colleagues would know.
Speaker 11 (13:16):
All right, So today we have two hundred packs.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
We have no.
Speaker 11 (13:22):
APU shall be attached to a GPU for the day.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I'm trying to think, did you want to borrow some
gp us from me or you coming?
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (13:34):
Yeah, I think there's just one of them probably available.
Do you think that you're in a position to give that.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
To us to you by c O B? Can I
have some of your tp us though? Can I trade
you a TPU for a c g U?
Speaker 11 (13:50):
I'm not just not sure what that one is because
we use that at my job. I don't know about yours?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Do you do you keep the un c g U
is it?
Speaker 11 (13:59):
Would you like a hint for what?
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
You said hang on packs? You did batteries. You work
in batteries.
Speaker 8 (14:08):
Incorrect?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Pass Three of the packs are babies and one of them.
Speaker 11 (14:17):
Need some assistance.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Are your nurse?
Speaker 8 (14:20):
No?
Speaker 11 (14:21):
Incorrect?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Three of the packs of babies.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, you're a zoologist?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (14:28):
Oh yeah, exactly not wrong?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Wrong again? Right, So you don't work You're not a zoologist.
Speaker 11 (14:37):
No, this is very embarrassing for you.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Are you?
Speaker 8 (14:41):
I'm not a vet.
Speaker 11 (14:42):
No, I don't work with animals.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Three packs of babies? Are you talking formula?
Speaker 12 (14:49):
No?
Speaker 11 (14:50):
But that's I guess that's.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
No.
Speaker 11 (14:53):
I'm trying to think of another word for you.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
What are you doing?
Speaker 11 (14:58):
Flight attendant Passengers AP an airpack unit gives you the
air conditioning on the plane.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
Wow, I know.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
In PAX like they're using the restaurant game.
Speaker 13 (15:14):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Wow, that was really confusing.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So well done, Emma, well done with zero.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
This is going to be really hard. Then we're going
to learn something though. All right, Jen, welcome to lingo bingo.
You used so please just let's just kick it off
with the language that you use in your workplace, and
we're going to try and keep the convo going.
Speaker 14 (15:36):
Okay, today I used fifteen fractions of gray with eighteen
percent of the posterior.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Oh yeah, beautiful, fifteen fractions of gray with the with
the with the fraction on the posterior on the posterior,
was it there, Gin?
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (15:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Interesting? Oh I personally use fifteen fractions of white earlier.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Does that sound about right to you?
Speaker 14 (16:08):
No? No, not really?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Okay, Jen, So I prost you. I'm guessing there's something
to do with anatomy there. Maybe. Are you a radiologist?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Close body painter?
Speaker 7 (16:25):
No?
Speaker 14 (16:25):
Definitely not a body painter. We do, we do do
tattooing where we are lasering?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
You're a laserer?
Speaker 14 (16:34):
No?
Speaker 7 (16:35):
No, definitely not you do tattooing.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Do you work in prosthetics?
Speaker 14 (16:40):
Definitely not?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Oh gosh, but I was close with radiology.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
You work close cat scanner.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
It's the flight attendant, No joke, Jenna? Where Jen? What
are you working?
Speaker 14 (16:58):
Radiation oncology?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
So what's the grays? What's the gray thing there?
Speaker 14 (17:04):
That is the dose of the radiation that the person
is receiving when they come to us, And fifteen fraction
means that they're having fifteen doses of the gray and so.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
On the posterior. It's just you're going from behind.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yes, yeah, good one woulds bring that one home with
the bank. One of the great joys of life is
watching somebody over the age of sixty thrash something about
because they're frustrated with it. Old people beautifully unafraid to
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break things when they're angry at them as well. It's
a lost art as far as I'm concerned. The rock
rock stars don't smash guitars anymore. Woods they used to.
It was great. It was a great bed. It was
a great bed.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
So we've got healthier dealing with our emotions these days.
But the boomers have held onto the I don't like
dealing with emotions, so I just smashed the.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Want to take it out on an animate object.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
It's more entertaining to watch.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
So I've got a great story here, thirty one and
six five years a story about a boomer breaking something
in anger. I've got a great story here about and
this guy, by the way, before I go into the story,
the guy that we're talking about, he was on the
council of this this Midwest town, right random, This seven
year old girl takes her drone for a flight. I
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think she gets a drone for a birthday, beautiful sunny day.
She's in the middle of nowhere, you know. I think,
you know, she might have got the gift from charity.
I imagine she's an orphan. She's flying the drone out, you know,
just enjoying the sunshine, when all of a sudden, the
drone takes two twenty two shotgunflience.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Got shot down. Her drone got shot down.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
She manages to fly the drone back to her house, amazing,
but it's badly damaged. It's been hit by a shotgun.
Speaker 15 (18:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Anyway, they do a little bit of a.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Do it got the footage.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
They do a little bit of a scope of the area,
and they find they find this guy, Peter, who's, as
I said, he is a shy counselor. Peter. They find him,
They find him. They go to his gun cabinet. There's
two two live twenty two caliber rounds which have been
shot very recently.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Peter, what do you reckon Peter was doing in his
backyard to be so embarrassed that he had to shoot
down the drunk.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
He's in the Midwest of America. Made, I reckon, that's
just what they call a nice afternoon. So he's sitting
out there with his gun, and it turns out he
shot the drone. Shot the drone out of this guy. Yeah,
great shot. He went on. He went to court for it,
and he said that he was authorized to shoot pests.
(19:44):
Not bad but peter, which is a closing Boomer defense, I imagine,
because let's face it, all Boomers treat drones as pests
and they will never understand that. But that doesn't mean
that you can shoot it with a gun. So A said,
I do think there's a wonderful stories if you've got
a good one that comes to mind. My four year
old teacher, sorry, my year four teacher, missus Smith. She
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she good cover. She once. I remember the day that
she she threw a printer across the classroom, like one
of those old school lady printers.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah four, it's twenty five, thirty years ago, so that's
that's a whopper, big printer.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah yeah, strong old school laser. Yet there's the trunchport and.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
She ripped the cord out of the wall, right, came
with it, came with it court at all.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
That's always funny.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Well, I think the court. Yeah, the cord would have
stopped it a little bit, but she frisbee this thing
straight at Tali Thompson's head and lucky he darked because
it shattered on the wall behind him. She threw a
printer at a kid, would have killed him. Thirty six
fine her up there. I can't don't actually remember. I
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think it was because he mispronounced the word ute. He said, oh,
track ifrigerating. That's actually exactly what it was. You were
trying to get him say ute for the whole year.
Very good, always good moments, the best. Nathan's killed, Nathan,
(21:25):
This is your dad.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Are you whistling, Nathan? Sorry?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Just enjoying the Neil Young? Were you Nathan talk to
talk to his mate? What did a boom of breaking angle?
Speaker 7 (21:38):
Man? Ah?
Speaker 16 (21:39):
So it was about dinner time, about six pm. Yeah,
about a week straight off. Telemarketers calling it from the
landline phone watching TV and that was like fuck, f
this so my bad voice, my bad oh.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
And unfortunately Nathan has sworn, which means for you guys,
we're just gonna go to a quick message and then
we'll be back on the other side with more calls
of what's a bit of breaking anger and we're back
and I look, I am enjoying these cars. I feel
like your dad would have broken a few things in
anger Woods surprisingly controlled with I think that is such
(22:18):
a tight ass.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Honestly, like he just overthinks like I couldn't possibly do
any damage to the house because quite.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Because you're right, Like Dad seems like the kind of
person that I think.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, absolutely doesn't want to do it.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I feel like it's going to be a classic Dad topic.
So thirty what it's excited? If you have got more
calls like this, are we going to go back to Nathan.
We're going to give him a second shot at the title, Nate,
do you want to give it another go, big.
Speaker 16 (22:45):
Fell Yeah, I'll give it one more shot.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No swearing though, Nathan, We're trusting you.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Your dad gets I'll take you to the place he
gets bold calls to the telemarketers. Oh thanks, Nathan, it's
very sweety. But your dad. Let's just get to this
story here, Nate's day with me. Okay, see your.
Speaker 12 (23:02):
Dad carry on dinner time, six pm, watching TV, decides
to get up with the phone out of the wall. Yeah,
I think a good old tosh to learn one phone
ye to sling across the room. Oh, throwing off his
(23:22):
head and then yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Its standard stuff, Nate.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
And I'm so glad we came back for that. Give
Nathan final a pillow because that, I mean the Nations
waited thirty seconds through a dummy and that we did
ask Gary Bee whether we should go back to Nathan.
We got the double thumbs up.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
So that's just it's always a worry when someone finishes
the story.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It's like, and that's it, right, Julie, Julie, we're taking
calls just to remind everybody what is a boomer broken
and anger? Julie, what you got is your ex.
Speaker 17 (23:58):
It was my ex husband and he couldn't get the
lawnmower started, so he took took a hammer to its.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Particularly lawnmowers very very susceptible.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's not starting. Sorry give you this, Julie, Like, so
hammer v. Lawnmark.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Because the other thing which I find very funny about
boomers cracking it and trying to break things is when
they go to break it and they fail.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
They don't realize how strong the lawnmowers. Like, did he
beat the lawnmower, Julie?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
He did he beat it really hard, And the funniest
part was I could hear the man next door trying
to start his lawnmower, and of course that I've put
my head out the door and I've just said to him,
I love I think the man next door needs to
burrow your hammer.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Julie, I did, Julie under you're no longer together, Lisa
on thirty when it's five. I love this. I love
these just women just doubbing in their husband. Lisa, what
did a boomer break in anger?
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (25:01):
So, my husband's really competitive at golf and went through
a stage where he just couldn't handle losing against his
best mates. So every time he lost or wasn't happy
with his score, he would snap a club. My son
also works at the local club where my husband plays,
(25:22):
so I got him to organize that next time. They
went in a group to bad my husband from playing
because I'm sick. Well, we're all sick of having to
pay for your club.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Brilliant, brilliant. How'd that go, Lisa?
Speaker 8 (25:35):
It was a bit of a joke, so they ended
up letting him on. But yeah, everyone got involved in it,
just to teach him a lesson of bad sportsmanship.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, good, lesson Lis to snap a golf club over.
It's pretty impressive, right. I would have thought maybe with
the carbon fiber ones it might be easier. Yeah, potentially
Gilmore and.
Speaker 15 (25:57):
The big guy Benzy, Yeah yeah, yeah, that looks tough, Vicky.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
He absolutely yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I think there's a more lightweight these days.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Vicky.
Speaker 15 (26:15):
Well, if I'm a boomer, this is you something, Vicky.
Speaker 13 (26:23):
I've broken a lot of things in anger, but technology
that wear's missing. I just can't my fingers as small
as what I am.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I pressed the wrong buttons. I've smashed so many phones.
Speaker 13 (26:36):
But I took to having a plate smashing cuppet, and
I've got it near my back door.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
And what I do is I go.
Speaker 13 (26:44):
To a lot of op shops buy opp old plate
just to smash, and when I'm really having a day,
I stand at the back door, open it up and
I smash as many.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
As I like.
Speaker 13 (27:00):
Then later on I got to go and pick them
all up. So it's one of those things that you
just can't keep banging head against the wall and you
keep bleeding. You know, you just got to keep trying.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
She's got a plate smashing cupboard. Get his right, every
time that you get frustrated with your phone, you go
to a cupboard next to your back door full of
plates and you smash your.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
Plate, phone, kids, anything, Woods.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It feels like there couldn't be a more point in
time to be talking about mental health with the passing
of another cell would brother in the AFL recently last
week it was it was really full on if you're
not across that obviously Troy cell would pass away and
then Adam Selwood's twin brother most recently, and it's just shocking,
(28:05):
and I think everybody is shocked. I think scared is
starting to be the word that sort of creeps in
and around this at the moment. I'm suicide at this level,
I think.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
People might have had the same experience as me.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
When I saw the news pop up on Saturday, I
assumed there was a typo with the news because you know,
that was months ago that Troy Sellwood passed away. But
to think that his twin brother also goes months later, Yep.
It's really hard to put words to how devastating it is.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah, and almost nonsensical for people that on the outside,
this is the you know, the great tragedy with suicide
with people on the outside who look happy, you know, healthy,
have had a lot in their lives. They've been successful,
they've known success, you know, they've got families. The idea
of ending your life prematurely seems like the most foreign
thing in the world, and yet tragically, for a lot
(28:56):
of these people in this position, that is the only opportunity,
that's the only thing they have left to do, which
just doesn't make a lot of sense. And I think
it's worth exploring why and how people at that point
get here, and hence how for everyone listening right now
you can think a little bit more about how something
like suicide might impact your life. Look, the lifeline number
is the ten eleven fourteen. If you want to talk
to somebody and you need to speak to someone right now,
(29:16):
that's a great service we've got in Australia. We've got
Hugh van Kyleenberg from the Resilience Project and The Imperfects
who joins us right now. Hugh, great to have you
back on, Will and Woody. So the reason we've got
you on today, obviously you've got a wealth of experience
in the mental health space. Anyone listening to The Imperfects
would know that. But specifically, You've worked with a lot
(29:36):
of elite sports teams, mate, could you give us a
bit of a layer of the land there who you've
worked with.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Yeah, guys, thanks for having me on. Yeah, it's so sad.
I just feel so sad today and have for the
last couple of days on this. But yeah, I have
been so so lucky to work with I guess like
twelve of the AFL teams, all of every one of
the NRL teams, everyone of the Ileague teams, Australian Cricket team,
(30:03):
men and women and materialism. But yeah, I just just
a lot and I do I do when I work
with them. I mean they're like we see them on
TV and they look physically they're so strong and resilient,
and you know, I do a lot of stuff at
the Queens downstaud of Orizon team. You can't get a
(30:23):
stronger looking group of people. When something else happens, it
reminds you they Yeah, they're human like the rest of us,
and they have their struggles. And I remember when the
first of the twins passed away. I remember just looking
at the folk of the family at the funeral, standing
there and I was just fixated on the other twins,
(30:45):
I come and begin to imagine what that paint is
and so yeah, to hear that news on the weekend
is utterly devastating.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yeah, it really is, mate.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
It's hard to talk about.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
It's just so unbelievably sad.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, what would your huge So if you were working
with a football club and not necessarily talking specifically about
the Selwood brothers now, but there's a player in that
club who is struggling with their mental health and you've
noticed that or picked up on that. What kind of
things are you doing with that player to work through
that if they do have the elite sport to grapple
(31:20):
with at the same time.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
But I can give you an example, and I can
talk about this because this player went actually he wrote
an article about this that was in the paper. This
is about five or six years ago now, so this
is not speaking without his permission here. But Charlie Dixon,
when I was at Port Adelaid Football Club, we would
talk a lot about the battles he was having with
his mental health, more specifically depression. And I remember saying
(31:44):
to him, who do you talk to a cub about this?
And he said no one, And I said, oh, why
is that And he said, well, my role is to
be really tough and strong, and I don't want to
appear to be not that way. And I said, if
one of your teammates, if one of your teammates spoke
to you about the press, which you think that was weak?
And he said no, I think it was very strong.
And I said, wasn't it any different for you? And
(32:04):
he just kind of nodded and he just he could
tell his understood. And over the next six months, he
wrote a letter through his teammates to tell them what
he was going through, but also thanking them because they're
the ones who kept him going the whole time. And
I was there when he read it out to them.
I was there he read the letter out to them
to explain in detail what he was going through, and
it was, to this day one of the most moving
things I've ever seen. I accidentally booked a very small room,
(32:26):
so it's a very tight quartism, and there were forty
men all hugging him at the end, and he said
that was the start of his recovery. So it's a
long story, but I share that story because I do
think that being vulnerable and sharing what you're going through
is the only answer there. Because I think when you
send a message to the world, or at least the
(32:47):
people around you, that I'm not coping, the world wraps
its arms around you.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
For somebody who is struggling right now from your experience
and all the stuff that you guys do on the
imperfects and stuff where vulnerability is breathe and cherished and
loved and made into such a wonderful space. How does
somebody who listens to the imperfect or here's a story
just then about Charlie Dixon, when that language seems so
(33:11):
foreign to them. What's the first step somebody could maybe
take to start trying to crack their heart open a
little bit and share a bit of the load.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I would say, as the first step, I would say,
down what's in your head? Because I feel like saying
go and see a health professional, go and see a doctor,
or going people aren't really doing that. It feels like
such a monumental step. So I would say, very realistically,
the first thing you could probably do is just right
down what is in your head?
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Right down?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
How are you feeling right down? Why you think you
feel like that? Writ down why you feel lost?
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Right down?
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Why you feel stuck, and when it's on the page
in front of you, just give it some time and
then just look at it and think, Okay, it's out
of my head. Who is someone in my life that
I could maybe start to talk to. Who's someone I
could I trusted?
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Love?
Speaker 5 (34:00):
No, love me that I could say this stuff too,
Because when you start to share it, the end goal
we want is for people to serve a psychologists and
to say a therapist and work through it. But I
mean the amount of families I speak to. I spoke
to a woman up in Mildua last week who has
been through Her partner took his life when they were
pregnant with their third child eight and a half month,
(34:21):
and she said she just didn't see it coming at all.
I think so often men will keep it all inside
because they're just too afraid to talk about it. So
get it out of your head on the paper and
then who can I share this with?
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Hey a you hugh good advice?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
What are the signs to pick up on, maybe on
if there's a man in your life, whether it's a
friend or partner, Are there any signs you can pick
up on to kind of kind of twig that maybe
they're not.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Right sometimes, yeah, there are sometimes, but sometimes there's not.
And I just for anyone listening who has lost someone
to suicide, you know you probably didn't miss anything. I
think a lot of men are really holding inside. But
I think, you know, things like irritability or maybe a
much shorter temper penny of my life. If you're listening,
that's not me. I'm just enable to. But yeah, I
(35:08):
think a change of sleep patterns a really big one
as well. Struck struggling to sleep, feeling like they're a
bit more reclusive, a little bit more distant. They are
other things, but they're not. It's not always, unfortunately, that
owes it to spot.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
No, that's the issue that's there. That's why this is
such an epidemic. Is it's nearly impossible. It's a spot. Hugh.
Thanks so much for joining us, Mate, and for sharing,
as always your insights and your wisdom. You can listen
to you and the Imperfect podcast, so you can. I mean,
you can see this guy anyway. Honestly, I saw a
Resilience Project poster taped up at my daughter's daycare on
(35:42):
the weekend and I was like, Jesus, we can leave
me alone. Van carlen Berg.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
I'm running around town.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
He's doing the kindergartens, he's expanding.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
He's also a wonderful man with a great message who's
already touched a lot of hearts and continues to break barriers. So, Hugh,
thank you so much for your mate. We love you
and thanks for your wise words. Love you very much, boys,
Thank you, thanks, may see you later, Hugh Van kylen Berg.
There on Will and Woody Lifeline thirteen eleven fourteen is
the number to call there. It's a big problem, guys.
(36:13):
It's a problem with not a lot of answers, and
it really is reliant on the people who are suffering
to start finding ways to get in touch with how
they're suffering and communicate that.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Because great step to right it, and I think take
away the pressure of showing someone as well. I'd like
it's just first step, write it down and you don't
have to get it twenty one.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
But I think that's so good from you.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Absolutely see your thoughts and then maybe you can find
some space between them and away from them.
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