September 26, 2025 • 29 mins
- Woody's restaurant gripes
- What makes you unnecessarily angry
- Do you help someone in the street if they fall over?
- Tim Minchin
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The Will and podcast. I don't often get disgusted Will.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
No, No, that's true. Actually you're really disgusted.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Really disgusting. Well, today, my friend, I am disgusted.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Why because there is this French restaurant in the UK.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Called La.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Sorry if I pronounced that incorrect, well, I'd be.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Surprised if there was any acute accent on the end
of it.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
How do you spell it?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
L A space p o p o t e lapper
lap lapper pot well, lapper pote.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Is on my list? My friends?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Because they have announced that they have a water menu.
Oh wow, they are so pretty, so wanky Will reviews.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'm sure at four point nine after or a thousand
Google reviews, that is that's rare.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's barely a one for me.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
They can do whatever they want as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They have got a list of waters from around the world.
Is it did you say that you can choose from
it's in the UK? Well all right, okay, so I
thought it was in France. Sorry, I'm looking at one
in France. Where in the UK is this is? A?
Doesn't actually say? Just look up UK restaurant La Popolte.
Not only do they have a water menu? Will they
(01:27):
also have a water somelli air called door and binder
who talks you through your water choice. I have never
heard of a floggier offering in my life. My personal
stance is that they shouldn't even come to your table
and say do you want tap or sparkling or still?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Just like obviously I want tap. I don't want to
be paining for that's okay. Sure you can offer sparkling,
allow sparkling water, but when it comes to still, I
want it out of your goddamn tap, and I want
it for free.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And don't you bloody add cakeage to that or something? Okay,
there are a few other rules. Well, you just throw
a fee in there. It's like, oh we bottled it though.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, don't get me with your sneaky fees. And I've
got more things will that i'd like to ban from
all menus, if you'll hear it. Yeah, sure, these I've
just I've just written from all menus, and I'm just
sick of seeing these words.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
You don't like eating out worth saying it stresses me out.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
This is in my world going out for dinner.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's hidden costs.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well a, it's hidden costs.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
But b it's just this stressful environment where you can't
really get what you want. You've got this small list
in front of you of the things you can get,
and then when you want to make a tweak to it,
you're offending someone.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
In your head. Don't how dare you don't?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Because of when the chef comes back and goes, we
won't do it without the sauce, and I'm like, do
it without the saw?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, they don't say that, they do, they don't.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I say to them, just put olive oil on it, please,
and they say it won't taste good and and a
fight ensues. So yeah, so lok, going to a restaurant
is a.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Little bit stressful for me.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But look, I just I just want to have a
go at a few words that I just const No, No,
there's not hidden costs. These are just I just think
these are very pretentious words that people use on menus
that I'd like to see the end of. So first, deconstructed,
piss off, construct it just just if I'm going to
be paying money for the aforementioned fees that I'm paying,
(03:23):
if I'm going to pay construct it, Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
That's the that's the smallest you could do. It's just
to construct it.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I think it's I think it's take it back and
construct it.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
That's why number two artisanal. What does that even mean? Well,
what does tisinal mean? I don't care.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It's nothing words, it's not olives ram it no bread.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So made, it's going to be hand made.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Okay, okay, so you just you say handmade. That is
also getting banned from all. You can't say hand crafted
or handmade. Everything was made with hands?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Everything, okay next week, just ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
You might have grown like you might have grown it
like if it's his handmade or they're probably just lying
with his handmade carrots.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Well no, but of course it was made with hands
because you have hands.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
If you made it with your feet, let me know,
because that's impressive.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's not made with hands.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
You need it with your hands.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Wouly Dorley, a prisoner at HMP Bullingdon, which is a
prison in the UK, Will was served some jacket potatoes
for lunch.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Right now the inmate either.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Just as a side or oh sorry, it's just a side. Yeah,
got given jacket potatoes. I'm not sure what the main
part of the meal was, but part of the meal
he was served up was jacket potatoes. Now, the inmate
by the name of Nicholas Brock has a very strong
issue with jacket potatoes. He says it's his least favorite
preparation of the potato. He would have taken a chip,
(05:15):
he would have taken mashed potatoes, he would have taken
roast potatoes.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
He hates jacket.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Stuff like if there's a good cheese going on, or
some bacon or something, bit of sour cream, delightful, not stuffed,
Oh well then I don't know stuffing doing it?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Then no stuffing, just a just a basic jacket potato.
He had such a strong issue with the jacket potato
that it is alleged that he said to a prison
guard as gets pretty full on, but he said, I
will put a nine milimeter to the back of your head.
Don't think I won't do it. Because he was so
angry about the jacket potatoes that he was that he
(05:50):
was served up. He was threatening to kill people because
he got served jacket potatoes. Now that's outrageous. It's probably
an unnecessary reaction to being served jacket potatoes, but it does.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Suck when, like, you know, like when I was growing
up and Mum and dad were both at work, and
my older sister would be left like fish cakes in
the fridge, and Mum would be like the boys fish.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Caked, damn fish cakes. I got fish. No one likes fish.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I hated fish gate.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
And I would just know Claire would be like clear
would come home and you're like, oh, Mum's on home
till late, and I'd be like, you know, what's what's
for dinner?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And I would just know she'd be like, oh, fish, there's.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Not enough sweet chili sauce in the world.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You were drowned. Yeah, chili sauce. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I'd get sufficiently angry, like it's my dinner. Yeah, sure,
there's nothing worse than a crapmeal.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And I do agree that there are things in everyone's
lives that make you unnecessarily angry.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So for this guy, it's just jacket potatoes.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
He spent his whole life getting unnecessarily angry about jacket potatoes.
Thirteen one oh six five is our number. Though you
don't have to go to the level of, you know,
threatening to kill people might but you might think it
what makes you necessarily angry?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Like what in your life do you know?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Just you overreact with anger when it happens, Like for
me personally, I just I cannot stand it. Will when
everyone with someone usually this is this is my wife
when she says, hey, what do you want for dinner?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And I go, okay, here we go, here we go, yep, beautiful.
I don't know fish and chips and she goes, oh no,
not fish and chips. Why did you ask me?
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Then?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, you know if this if when you ask what
open dialogue?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Though, yeah, I know I get that, but don't say, like, hey,
you choose what's what? You choose what saying different questions?
It's in the time.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
When then you get Carlos and you said, what do
you feel like? That should be open dialogue? And you're
just feeling each other.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Out in the time.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Another one that gets me. I don't know why it
makes me so angry. Actually I do because of the inconvenience.
But you know, just items that need batteries that don't
come with batteries.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Just why would you do.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That to me?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yeah, batteries not included, and there's transport issues. Can't store
it well, you can't store them for too long on
the heat up strap.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It on the back something.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, I just hate getting home and often those products
you've got to get the scissors to get that.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Hardt off, and you get in there and you pump
to use it down many batches.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, I hate it.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Now you're an angry man.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I'm not. You are, I've got angry all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Do you you know? Well hext next to start with pods?
Can I start with pods? You know, the confectionery pods?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah? What's wrong with the pod pods?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Suck?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
I just think them up with color was something better. Well,
those guys, first of all, they're thrown a blanket over
every single confectionery. They're like your Sneakers pods, Mars pods, pirsontally.
They taste the same. There's no peanuts, and the Sneakers
pods are too that much. It's exactly the same as
the mass pot TwixT pod, pretty.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Much the same thing. It's a biscuit.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Those guys sit around all day, they make money and
they just brought They just brainstorm ideas about chocolate. They
haven't comet with a new thing since the pod came
out twenty five years ago. I think there's a lot
of things you could do.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't wonder. I hate pods. Don't get many in
the packet.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
They're much smaller than they look on the ads, and
they're like fifteen dollars for ten.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
They're ship anyway, oh mad, enough of them, enough of
them with a mind pod.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
But some other people had some examples as well, frozen.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Me pies and mashed potato. It's the worst. So as
a kid, I had Cyger's training three nights a week
and that's what I ate, three nights a week for
ten years, and all I wanted.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Was just a normal bakery pie.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Hearing my dog eat or drink her water.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
M've been in Australia with twelve years. Came from the UK,
don't it, and ever since day one. You know when
you get a pizza something, you know you going for
a nice meal or other and you get the bill
when you get to the counter and ego, just that's
just four hundred dollars, that's just two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I hate it.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Well, now we've got Shana here who didn't quite get
on last time.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
But Shana, what makes you unnecessarily angry?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Condensation? There's nothing worse than condensation, Like when you've got
a cold drink a cold beer and it just drips
all over you and all over your clothing, and it's
like you can't enjoy it because it just.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Condensation, you know, in the morning, like when it's been
there's been no raino a night and you've accidentally left
a towel out and you got to go to town.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
What what? What? What sorcery?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Is this just jewey? When it's dewy condensation? Is that
jew Taylor is kilt? Is that just specific condensations? That's right, right,
Let's go to Taylor here. Taylor, what makes you unnecessarily angry? Hi?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Guys, I think everything you guys have said makes me
quite angry.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
But the one that frustrates me.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
The worst is when you walk past the door and.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
You're already annoyed and your jumper gets caught on the
door and pulls your back.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Oh yeah, that is the worst for someone else.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Yes, it's good to watch, but not yourself, especially.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
If you're doing an angry storm off.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Like if you've got angry and you go to storm
off and you jumper gets caught, nothing worse will be.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
A basic one.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
But and in the same vein as Taylor, But stubbing
your toe suck. Oh horrific right around the edge of
the bed at nighttime, and.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'm so angry.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You can't complain about it, like, because your partner's not
gonna give you any sympathy there and they'll probably laugh
at you. Tho, you don't understand how much pain I'm
in right now.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It's it's it's what I like to call disproportionate pain.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Like whoever set up the pain system on this earth,
God gotta be God.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
That shouldn't hurt that much.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, for what I've done to deserve, this just should
not just shouldn't hurt that much.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Turn the dial down a little bit, right, you know
it frustrates me sometimes when you're in a restaurant, this
has just come to me, makes very angry.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
You know. They walk up to and you finished.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
With that, and it's like, obviously I'm not If you
had to ask, I'm not really well, I just think
of this food on the plate.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I'm not done anyway, Jesse.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
For a lot of people, they are to be fair.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I do get that. I do it to be fair. Well,
I'm never done, Jesse. What makes you unnecessarily angry?
Speaker 8 (11:52):
For me?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
So when I go to a stationery store or anywhere,
and I need.
Speaker 9 (11:57):
A pair of scissors.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yeah, and then you need to open Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I hate that. Yes, it's like, well, how was I
supposed to get in here? Jess? That's brilliant. You know
what it gets me as well.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
It's like similar one you know, when you've got it,
you take the bin bag out of your out of your.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Bin, and then it's the one that's been used.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, the one's been You take it out, and then
you go and open a new bag of bins and
then you go to throw it out and you're like,
I don't ever been yet.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Let's go to Richard. Richard, what makes you unnecessarily angry.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
When you go to a seafood buffet and they rave
on about how they have all you can eat oysters
and seafood, but they only stuck up the oysters or
the seafood like bare minimum.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Oh I know, and.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You've got to stand there, You stand there like a
poor for waiting there as the person goes to clear
out the train, it's like, just.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Bring them all out, get shucking.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
If you're worried about AI taking your job, fear no more.
Because in a very basic fifteen hundred meters sprint during
the first.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Robot Olympics Woods in Beijing.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
One humanoid just face planted within the first couple of meters.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Humanoid is a robot that loss like a human. Yeah,
face planted, first couple of meters.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Bang, awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Moti cost at least fifty million dollars to raise.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
That's awesome, bang first steps a real win for the
humans bush.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yep, you don't see that on Timorah.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
But yeah, at this at this current pointstre struggling to walk,
which is good for us.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Did any of the other robots go back? Great ques
John Clark in nineteen fifty six, great question. No, but
a lot of the humans went Robots don't care, no feelings.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I thought robots cared about other robots. Now I thought
those didn't.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Like, Oh no, that's that's that's what Hollywood wants you
to believe that robots they don't think.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Mate. Okay, so yet, so the humans ran back.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Lots of people were actually quite shocked and a bit
sad actually that this guy went down.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, ok yeah, real West World. Yeah, sorry, so he
really looks like a human. Yeah they're humanoid, right, Okay, yeah,
so he goes down everything like, oh, no, they put
blood in them. No, okay, I think that's what it'd
really get you if you're like, oh my god, he's
drawing blood.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Anyway, so these other people go and pick him up, okay.
And it got me thinking that I feel as if
oftentimes helping someone who has stacked in.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Front of you is the wrong thing to do. I was.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I was actually at a drinks thing on the weekend
and a friend of mine was talking about the fact
that he got the train there. He got the train
there and someone fell over on his way from the
train to.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
The apartment that we're all hanging out in.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You don't want to be condescending, do you?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
And he helped them up right without asking, and well, yeah,
well he just went he just bent down and was like, okay, instinct, Yeah, yeah, sure.
And one of the girls I was hanging out with
was like, was it was it a woman that you
were helping up? And he said yes, And she said,
unless I have clearly broken my neck, do not help
(15:11):
me up in a public space.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Would I give more explanation as to why you would say?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
She said, the embarrassment, Oh, sure, Like, don't even look
at me. People stopping to help you after you've clearly
eaten it in a crowd is far worse.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So any injury that you may or may not.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, of course, So so she wouldn't even want him
to go. Would you like some help? Because that's embarrassing itself,
like by even asking, apparently you just keep walking. What
if you can see blood? I think it's just wor
worth worth asking, you know what I mean, Like, what
if you.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
She said, unless she's clearly broken her neck.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So that that level, like that is like.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I need to be like unconscious. So if I'm moving,
I'm fine, okay, unless I'm asking for help. So there
is a bone sticking out of her leg, but she's
conscious and I'm to walk on, I would look like
the biggest in She also said, it was like, you know,
this is kind of like peak hour after work as well.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
This woman was wearing her work clothes.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Just just not the time to point it out anyway,
I thought, because I've had the same questions, I thought
we'd throw the phones open.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh yeah, okay, great, thirteen one and six five? Will
what do you reckon?
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I think I think you should.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I think it also depends on who it is, Like
you're saying, so, well, what kind of person would you help?
I reckon an elderly per persona and what's elderly?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Will?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I don't want to incriminate.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It is important though, just bandy around down and go.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Sorry, you over the age of fifty, show me your idea.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
We were born to form the fifties.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
I reckon.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
If they're they're visibly able to get themselves.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, if they can't get it, so will you'll watch
from afar You'll watch them?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Is the thing? I think. This is what we have
to do is edit around it. You can't just run
in there. And I think there's a lot of guys
I want.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
To play hero.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I want to get in there.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I got the god complex absolutely. So you have to
stand there. A doctor, you have to stand back.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Wow, the doctors have to hold.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Themselves back at every kid's sports game, let alone walking
through a public square.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
But it's it's hard. I think you need to take
a beat.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That's what we're saying here is hang back, says the age,
give them first, Crow says, the age says the gender age,
gender and get let them try and get up, and
then if they try and fail, then you swoop in.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
It does sound if it's sick, doesn't it it sounds?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
What we want to.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Make so my thing is a lot your your female
friend had said, I don't want help because of the embarrassment, right,
all right, I think I'm sacrificial lambing myself. I think
I go down to I think if a woman goes
down in front of me, I bring myself down, right, No,
I just stack it next to them, right, and I
go bloody hell, the same you know, the same step
(17:50):
got me or whatever. And then when we're both on
the deck, we're in this shed embarrassing situation.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
How do you want to hand up?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
You're over the age of fifty? Should we shame your id?
Let's go to Josie. Hello, Josie, what do you reckon?
If a woman falls over in public? Should help her
back up?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Again?
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Is it a woman? Yes, if it's a man, depending
on how he looks?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, right, what look? Would you not want to help? Josie?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
You know, like the ones that I haven't slept in
forty eight hours, so.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Will on a Monday morning?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Thanks Josie. Let's go to Kate. Interesting, Josie didn't bring
out the embarrassment factor?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
No, yeah, not at all.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Kate. Just the look of the man, Kate, you fall
down publicly often.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
I do. I'm a cereal face planter.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Okay, sorry?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Should people help you up? Or was the embarrassment worse
than the injury?
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Well, I like, depending on where I am. I like
to make it as awkward as possible because I have
a disability, right, so I'll just pull that out and
be like, haha, it's so sorry. I'm fastic and that's
the medical term. That's the medical term for what I'm
experiencing right now. And always help someone up. Always.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Oh so you've just superseded the embarrassment, Kate. And you're
just saying like if you if I'm going to go down,
just embrace it and then get help.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Yeah, I'm gonna and then like buy me a coffee
or something like haha.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I've already helped you up. I'm not buying you a coffee.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Guys. Two mentions in the studio.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
I am in the studio, and it's just bragging about
how good his last interview with Til was.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So, you know, instantly nervous and it makes my first
question look really ship.
Speaker 10 (19:39):
You need me to make your question.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
A statement it's really bad, man, It's just such a
step down.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
So so.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
So the show is called Tim Minton Time Machine.
Speaker 10 (19:57):
Oh that's the album.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Such low quality.
Speaker 10 (20:06):
I'm flogging more than.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I'm always more than.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
The show is called Songs of the World Will Never Hear. Yeah,
the album is called Tim Innch and Time Machine.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Nice experience, roll on from there. That's a really solid
foundation for a really good interview. Yeah, smashing it obviously,
Frost Nixon in.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You really got back.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I'm never without a record.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
I'm bored already.
Speaker 10 (20:39):
Oh man, he's just trying to plug my stuff for me.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
I was just going in the correlation between Tim Innches
and time Machine.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
I mean, yeah, it's nice. Yeah, I had for a
year I recorded all these songs. So time Machine is
cool time Machine because there's songs are written my ye.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I knew that.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
Yeah, But for the first six months before we put
it out, I was going to call attic songs, which
is cute but a bit sort of folks see. And
then I went tim mentionin time Machine just as a
visual thing.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, so what made you go back to these songs
that you wrote in your twenties?
Speaker 8 (21:20):
I mean, like everything I do, it's sort of somewhere
in between really intentional and just completely not thought out
at all, and I never know quite which one I'm
doing it.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I just whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
It was.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
Eighteen months ago, I rang my band and went, I've
got all these old songs that I've never recorded. I
just want to jam them. And I went up to
near where my drama lives, and we had a rehearsal
studio and we play these songs, and because there's such guns,
by the end of the day, I was like, these
are banging right, these are sounding great, and my drama
Evan goes, O, well, why don't we just instead of
coming back to rehearsal studio tomorrow, because I'd booked two days,
(21:53):
We'll just go to the studio studio. And so we
recorded four songs that second day, and then we went
back and did a few more, and I just I
didn't really have a plan for them. So there was
no real intention except that I put my first ever
studio album out in twenty twenty, and I just since then,
I'm like, well, I've got all these other songs. They're
not as new, but I don't know. This year I'm
(22:14):
turning fifty, I'm doing this tour. That's like a celebration
of the twenty year anniversary since my stuff took off twenties.
Speaker 10 (22:20):
Yeah, and I put this album out.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
It's just like a little having a little pause and
a bit of a grateful like count my blessings like
it's been Really, I'm I'm not finishing.
Speaker 10 (22:30):
It's not a Johnny Farnham retirement.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
To look back a pause because I'm not good at that.
Speaker 10 (22:35):
I'm really bad at taking stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
What's next?
Speaker 10 (22:38):
What's next?
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, you're.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Always so busy.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Well, I know that you've released a new version of
not Perfect on there as well, So.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Perfect.
Speaker 10 (22:46):
Oh my god, so dad, But that's mt.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
It's not perfect?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Am I right in saying that?
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Don't make me listen to my moment?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Do you really not like that at all?
Speaker 10 (23:03):
Is that not perfect?
Speaker 8 (23:06):
It's in a funny place for me because it's it's
it means a huge amount to a lot of people
in a way that I'm not having tickets on myself.
Speaker 10 (23:13):
It's just over over the years, I have got so
told you. It's like people have.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
The lyrics tattooed on their arms and stuff, and it
means a lot to people who struggle, especially with chronic
pain or disability or whatever, because it's celebrating imperfection or
and the there's a huge conversation to have there. But
when these songs in isolation for your listeners, I'm like,
(23:38):
oh you you sort of have to hear this whole
song in a moment of quiet. It's not you know,
I wouldn't want It's not.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I mean, we do it in every second of these days,
and he manages to.
Speaker 10 (23:54):
I struggle to listen to my own Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You're humble. I get it.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Do you have What about when you're watching yourself on
screen or something like that?
Speaker 8 (24:04):
Is that Weirdly, I'm I'm much more comfortable watching myself
playing a character. Maybe that's not weird because we all
I don't like me, but I don't mind Lucky.
Speaker 10 (24:16):
I don't mind my guy from upright. A few reasons.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
One because when I'm filming TV, I usually do the
work to get myself in good new reare to go
for it, and you get good makeup and good lights
so that the cameras are looking after you.
Speaker 10 (24:30):
But also I'm not being me.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
So the thing we all struggle with when we listen
to our voice on a phone message we've all got
that is that our understanding of ourself from the inside
out is one thing, and when we observe ourselves from
the outside in, it just there's just dissonance there.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Tickets is playing Melbourn, Brisbane, Adelaide, Canberra, Perth, Newcastle, Sydney.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Well, the whole country, Gold Coast.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
To the then mostly sold out by the way, guys gone,
Jesus Christ, you sold out everywhere.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
The still some there, Okay, cool, all right, so check
that out Tim mention dot com if you see me
anywhere in the country. And we got how did the
relationship with your artwork.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Change as you got older?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Because I often find if I write something or if
I record something, and then I look back on it
in a short window, Yeah, I've.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
Got it all over it.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I've got the goggles on, I've got the lens, the
judgment lens on where it's not it's NQR.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
But then that five year range you give yourself, Oh
there's gold there. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
I find it unbearable to watch anything soon. Yeah, and
it takes about fifteen or twenty years for me to go,
oh kid was doing fine.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, really you might love thing, but there's like enough ingenuity.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
There and it's a huge relief and it's I don't
know that maybe we should just be nicer to ourselves.
Speaker 10 (25:56):
But also there's something natural about that.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Hearing you talk about your brain and the writing process
and stuff, and I'm interested to ask AI. Yeah, people
are worried that AI are now writing songs and AI
can do everyone's out. We've put things in AI about
radio ideas or doing the radio show where do you
sit with AI? In the future of AI?
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Within art well, I've taken to saying on stage that
I think humans seem intent on conveniencing themselves into meaninglessness.
There's a couple of different conversations. One is can AI
do what I do? AI will be able to already
(26:38):
can write Max Martin style hit, And that's not to
diss on Max Martin. I mean all those incredible pop
hits were It was a form that was created by
mostly Scandinavians, and now it's just a clear enough formula
that a computer can definitely do it. You know something
about a firework, the bridge goes here, literally fits into
(27:00):
a grid, the key change or whatever. There's still some
interesting decisions to be made. You can just say to
the AI oh, can you follow the route less on
the base, you know whatever, so you can do that.
I think AI will come for me pretty late. It'll
take a while for it to write what I write
because it's it's pretty weird.
Speaker 10 (27:21):
And I'm not that's not a value judgment. I'm just
it doesn't do very well. Much.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
More to the point is why the hell would we
want to listen to it? Because art is not just content.
And this is where we've all got confused. We've got
these evil, fricking devices in our hands all the time,
and I think we need a revolution, and I think
my kids generation might do it. They might just go, oh, no,
we can't. It's poisoned.
Speaker 10 (27:49):
You know.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Social media is dismantling liberal democracy because it's an algorithm
that makes us divided.
Speaker 10 (27:54):
Blah blah. It'll just be like smoking. This is the idea.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
But more than any thing, I am the optimist in me,
and I don't see any reason to be anything but optimistic,
because where the hell did pessimism ever get anyone that.
I think there'll be a backlash against the just the
you're just getting absolute. I think AI will just be
seen as kitsch because art is not just content. It's
(28:19):
content plus intent, and if there's nothing having the intention,
I think we will just go. Oh, I don't know
whether that's AI or human. We're going to put our
phones down and buy theater tickets.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
What's going to happen.
Speaker 10 (28:30):
There's going to be a massive backlash.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Optimism if we keep telling this story.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
The live show is still is still.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
It's coming back, you know. And I'm very lucky because
I was never a recording artist. I'm not I'm not
a content guy. I hate it. But the only things
you can't steal are West End musicals because you've got
to go and my gigs and just like, yeah, bring it,
bring the bring that.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I sold them.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Aloud, guys, he sold them all out. Don't you worry
about that?
Speaker 9 (29:04):
Hey, before you go, my gigs are banging, by the way,
amazing worth reflecting it might be a step one deeper,
but the fact that you can go and enjoy a
show and reflect on your.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Own humanity is maybe a sign of sentience that everyone
should appreciate as well.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
Maybe I mean, I'm picking it up because I want
to sell tickets.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Tim mention time machines out now, and tickets to songs
in the world will never here are still available Tim
Inns dot comedy fresh off the UK and he sold
out a hell of a lot of shows all over
the country. But he's added news shows in Melbourne, Brisbane,
canber and Perth.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
So you're want to go along and see Tim, then
Tim Minchin dot com. Tim thanks so much for coming.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
In such pleasure to mate.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Thank you
The Will and podcast. I don't often get disgusted Will.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
No, No, that's true. Actually you're really disgusted.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Really disgusting. Well, today, my friend, I am disgusted.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Why because there is this French restaurant in the UK.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Called La.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Sorry if I pronounced that incorrect, well, I'd be.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Surprised if there was any acute accent on the end
of it.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
How do you spell it?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
L A space p o p o t e lapper
lap lapper pot well, lapper pote.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Is on my list? My friends?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Because they have announced that they have a water menu.
Oh wow, they are so pretty, so wanky Will reviews.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'm sure at four point nine after or a thousand
Google reviews, that is that's rare.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's barely a one for me.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
They can do whatever they want as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They have got a list of waters from around the world.
Is it did you say that you can choose from
it's in the UK? Well all right, okay, so I
thought it was in France. Sorry, I'm looking at one
in France. Where in the UK is this is? A?
Doesn't actually say? Just look up UK restaurant La Popolte.
Not only do they have a water menu? Will they
(01:27):
also have a water somelli air called door and binder
who talks you through your water choice. I have never
heard of a floggier offering in my life. My personal
stance is that they shouldn't even come to your table
and say do you want tap or sparkling or still?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Just like obviously I want tap. I don't want to
be paining for that's okay. Sure you can offer sparkling,
allow sparkling water, but when it comes to still, I
want it out of your goddamn tap, and I want
it for free.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And don't you bloody add cakeage to that or something? Okay,
there are a few other rules. Well, you just throw
a fee in there. It's like, oh we bottled it though.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, don't get me with your sneaky fees. And I've
got more things will that i'd like to ban from
all menus, if you'll hear it. Yeah, sure, these I've
just I've just written from all menus, and I'm just
sick of seeing these words.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
You don't like eating out worth saying it stresses me out.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
This is in my world going out for dinner.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's hidden costs.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well a, it's hidden costs.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
But b it's just this stressful environment where you can't
really get what you want. You've got this small list
in front of you of the things you can get,
and then when you want to make a tweak to it,
you're offending someone.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
In your head. Don't how dare you don't?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Because of when the chef comes back and goes, we
won't do it without the sauce, and I'm like, do
it without the saw?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
No, they don't say that, they do, they don't.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I say to them, just put olive oil on it, please,
and they say it won't taste good and and a
fight ensues. So yeah, so lok, going to a restaurant
is a.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Little bit stressful for me.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But look, I just I just want to have a
go at a few words that I just const No, No,
there's not hidden costs. These are just I just think
these are very pretentious words that people use on menus
that I'd like to see the end of. So first, deconstructed,
piss off, construct it just just if I'm going to
be paying money for the aforementioned fees that I'm paying,
(03:23):
if I'm going to pay construct it, Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
That's the that's the smallest you could do. It's just
to construct it.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I think it's I think it's take it back and
construct it.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
That's why number two artisanal. What does that even mean? Well,
what does tisinal mean? I don't care.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It's nothing words, it's not olives ram it no bread.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So made, it's going to be hand made.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Okay, okay, so you just you say handmade. That is
also getting banned from all. You can't say hand crafted
or handmade. Everything was made with hands?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Everything, okay next week, just ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
You might have grown like you might have grown it
like if it's his handmade or they're probably just lying
with his handmade carrots.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Well no, but of course it was made with hands
because you have hands.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
If you made it with your feet, let me know,
because that's impressive.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's not made with hands.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
You need it with your hands.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Wouly Dorley, a prisoner at HMP Bullingdon, which is a
prison in the UK, Will was served some jacket potatoes
for lunch.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Right now the inmate either.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Just as a side or oh sorry, it's just a side. Yeah,
got given jacket potatoes. I'm not sure what the main
part of the meal was, but part of the meal
he was served up was jacket potatoes. Now, the inmate
by the name of Nicholas Brock has a very strong
issue with jacket potatoes. He says it's his least favorite
preparation of the potato. He would have taken a chip,
(05:15):
he would have taken mashed potatoes, he would have taken
roast potatoes.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
He hates jacket.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Stuff like if there's a good cheese going on, or
some bacon or something, bit of sour cream, delightful, not stuffed,
Oh well then I don't know stuffing doing it?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Then no stuffing, just a just a basic jacket potato.
He had such a strong issue with the jacket potato
that it is alleged that he said to a prison
guard as gets pretty full on, but he said, I
will put a nine milimeter to the back of your head.
Don't think I won't do it. Because he was so
angry about the jacket potatoes that he was that he
(05:50):
was served up. He was threatening to kill people because
he got served jacket potatoes. Now that's outrageous. It's probably
an unnecessary reaction to being served jacket potatoes, but it does.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Suck when, like, you know, like when I was growing
up and Mum and dad were both at work, and
my older sister would be left like fish cakes in
the fridge, and Mum would be like the boys fish.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Caked, damn fish cakes. I got fish. No one likes fish.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I hated fish gate.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
And I would just know Claire would be like clear
would come home and you're like, oh, Mum's on home
till late, and I'd be like, you know, what's what's
for dinner?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And I would just know she'd be like, oh, fish, there's.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Not enough sweet chili sauce in the world.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You were drowned. Yeah, chili sauce. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I'd get sufficiently angry, like it's my dinner. Yeah, sure,
there's nothing worse than a crapmeal.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And I do agree that there are things in everyone's
lives that make you unnecessarily angry.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So for this guy, it's just jacket potatoes.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
He spent his whole life getting unnecessarily angry about jacket potatoes.
Thirteen one oh six five is our number. Though you
don't have to go to the level of, you know,
threatening to kill people might but you might think it
what makes you necessarily angry?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Like what in your life do you know?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Just you overreact with anger when it happens, Like for
me personally, I just I cannot stand it. Will when
everyone with someone usually this is this is my wife
when she says, hey, what do you want for dinner?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And I go, okay, here we go, here we go, yep, beautiful.
I don't know fish and chips and she goes, oh no,
not fish and chips. Why did you ask me?
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Then?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, you know if this if when you ask what
open dialogue?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Though, yeah, I know I get that, but don't say, like, hey,
you choose what's what? You choose what saying different questions?
It's in the time.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
When then you get Carlos and you said, what do
you feel like? That should be open dialogue? And you're
just feeling each other.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Out in the time.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Another one that gets me. I don't know why it
makes me so angry. Actually I do because of the inconvenience.
But you know, just items that need batteries that don't
come with batteries.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Just why would you do.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
That to me?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yeah, batteries not included, and there's transport issues. Can't store
it well, you can't store them for too long on
the heat up strap.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It on the back something.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, I just hate getting home and often those products
you've got to get the scissors to get that.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Hardt off, and you get in there and you pump
to use it down many batches.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, I hate it.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Now you're an angry man.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I'm not. You are, I've got angry all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Do you you know? Well hext next to start with pods?
Can I start with pods? You know, the confectionery pods?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah? What's wrong with the pod pods?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Suck?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
I just think them up with color was something better. Well,
those guys, first of all, they're thrown a blanket over
every single confectionery. They're like your Sneakers pods, Mars pods, pirsontally.
They taste the same. There's no peanuts, and the Sneakers
pods are too that much. It's exactly the same as
the mass pot TwixT pod, pretty.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Much the same thing. It's a biscuit.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Those guys sit around all day, they make money and
they just brought They just brainstorm ideas about chocolate. They
haven't comet with a new thing since the pod came
out twenty five years ago. I think there's a lot
of things you could do.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't wonder. I hate pods. Don't get many in
the packet.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
They're much smaller than they look on the ads, and
they're like fifteen dollars for ten.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
They're ship anyway, oh mad, enough of them, enough of
them with a mind pod.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
But some other people had some examples as well, frozen.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Me pies and mashed potato. It's the worst. So as
a kid, I had Cyger's training three nights a week
and that's what I ate, three nights a week for
ten years, and all I wanted.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Was just a normal bakery pie.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Hearing my dog eat or drink her water.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
M've been in Australia with twelve years. Came from the UK,
don't it, and ever since day one. You know when
you get a pizza something, you know you going for
a nice meal or other and you get the bill
when you get to the counter and ego, just that's
just four hundred dollars, that's just two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I hate it.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Well, now we've got Shana here who didn't quite get
on last time.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
But Shana, what makes you unnecessarily angry?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Condensation? There's nothing worse than condensation, Like when you've got
a cold drink a cold beer and it just drips
all over you and all over your clothing, and it's
like you can't enjoy it because it just.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Condensation, you know, in the morning, like when it's been
there's been no raino a night and you've accidentally left
a towel out and you got to go to town.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
What what? What? What sorcery?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Is this just jewey? When it's dewy condensation? Is that
jew Taylor is kilt? Is that just specific condensations? That's right, right,
Let's go to Taylor here. Taylor, what makes you unnecessarily angry? Hi?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Guys, I think everything you guys have said makes me
quite angry.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
But the one that frustrates me.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
The worst is when you walk past the door and.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
You're already annoyed and your jumper gets caught on the
door and pulls your back.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Oh yeah, that is the worst for someone else.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Yes, it's good to watch, but not yourself, especially.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
If you're doing an angry storm off.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Like if you've got angry and you go to storm
off and you jumper gets caught, nothing worse will be.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
A basic one.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
But and in the same vein as Taylor, But stubbing
your toe suck. Oh horrific right around the edge of
the bed at nighttime, and.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'm so angry.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You can't complain about it, like, because your partner's not
gonna give you any sympathy there and they'll probably laugh
at you. Tho, you don't understand how much pain I'm
in right now.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It's it's it's what I like to call disproportionate pain.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Like whoever set up the pain system on this earth,
God gotta be God.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
That shouldn't hurt that much.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, for what I've done to deserve, this just should
not just shouldn't hurt that much.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Turn the dial down a little bit, right, you know
it frustrates me sometimes when you're in a restaurant, this
has just come to me, makes very angry.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
You know. They walk up to and you finished.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
With that, and it's like, obviously I'm not If you
had to ask, I'm not really well, I just think
of this food on the plate.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I'm not done anyway, Jesse.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
For a lot of people, they are to be fair.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I do get that. I do it to be fair. Well,
I'm never done, Jesse. What makes you unnecessarily angry?
Speaker 8 (11:52):
For me?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
So when I go to a stationery store or anywhere,
and I need.
Speaker 9 (11:57):
A pair of scissors.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yeah, and then you need to open Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I hate that. Yes, it's like, well, how was I
supposed to get in here? Jess? That's brilliant. You know
what it gets me as well.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
It's like similar one you know, when you've got it,
you take the bin bag out of your out of your.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Bin, and then it's the one that's been used.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, the one's been You take it out, and then
you go and open a new bag of bins and
then you go to throw it out and you're like,
I don't ever been yet.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Let's go to Richard. Richard, what makes you unnecessarily angry.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
When you go to a seafood buffet and they rave
on about how they have all you can eat oysters
and seafood, but they only stuck up the oysters or
the seafood like bare minimum.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Oh I know, and.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You've got to stand there, You stand there like a
poor for waiting there as the person goes to clear
out the train, it's like, just.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Bring them all out, get shucking.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
If you're worried about AI taking your job, fear no more.
Because in a very basic fifteen hundred meters sprint during
the first.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Robot Olympics Woods in Beijing.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
One humanoid just face planted within the first couple of meters.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Humanoid is a robot that loss like a human. Yeah,
face planted, first couple of meters.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Bang, awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Moti cost at least fifty million dollars to raise.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
That's awesome, bang first steps a real win for the
humans bush.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yep, you don't see that on Timorah.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
But yeah, at this at this current pointstre struggling to walk,
which is good for us.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Did any of the other robots go back? Great ques
John Clark in nineteen fifty six, great question. No, but
a lot of the humans went Robots don't care, no feelings.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I thought robots cared about other robots. Now I thought
those didn't.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Like, Oh no, that's that's that's what Hollywood wants you
to believe that robots they don't think.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Mate. Okay, so yet, so the humans ran back.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Lots of people were actually quite shocked and a bit
sad actually that this guy went down.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, ok yeah, real West World. Yeah, sorry, so he
really looks like a human. Yeah they're humanoid, right, Okay, yeah,
so he goes down everything like, oh, no, they put
blood in them. No, okay, I think that's what it'd
really get you if you're like, oh my god, he's
drawing blood.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Anyway, so these other people go and pick him up, okay.
And it got me thinking that I feel as if
oftentimes helping someone who has stacked in.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Front of you is the wrong thing to do. I was.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I was actually at a drinks thing on the weekend
and a friend of mine was talking about the fact
that he got the train there. He got the train
there and someone fell over on his way from the
train to.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
The apartment that we're all hanging out in.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You don't want to be condescending, do you?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
And he helped them up right without asking, and well, yeah,
well he just went he just bent down and was like, okay, instinct, Yeah, yeah, sure.
And one of the girls I was hanging out with
was like, was it was it a woman that you
were helping up? And he said yes, And she said,
unless I have clearly broken my neck, do not help
(15:11):
me up in a public space.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Would I give more explanation as to why you would say?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
She said, the embarrassment, Oh, sure, Like, don't even look
at me. People stopping to help you after you've clearly
eaten it in a crowd is far worse.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So any injury that you may or may not.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, of course, So so she wouldn't even want him
to go. Would you like some help? Because that's embarrassing itself,
like by even asking, apparently you just keep walking. What
if you can see blood? I think it's just wor
worth worth asking, you know what I mean, Like, what
if you.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
She said, unless she's clearly broken her neck.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So that that level, like that is like.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I need to be like unconscious. So if I'm moving,
I'm fine, okay, unless I'm asking for help. So there
is a bone sticking out of her leg, but she's
conscious and I'm to walk on, I would look like
the biggest in She also said, it was like, you know,
this is kind of like peak hour after work as well.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
This woman was wearing her work clothes.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Just just not the time to point it out anyway,
I thought, because I've had the same questions, I thought
we'd throw the phones open.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh yeah, okay, great, thirteen one and six five? Will
what do you reckon?
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I think I think you should.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I think it also depends on who it is, Like
you're saying, so, well, what kind of person would you help?
I reckon an elderly per persona and what's elderly?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Will?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I don't want to incriminate.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It is important though, just bandy around down and go.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Sorry, you over the age of fifty, show me your idea.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
We were born to form the fifties.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
I reckon.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
If they're they're visibly able to get themselves.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, if they can't get it, so will you'll watch
from afar You'll watch them?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Is the thing? I think. This is what we have
to do is edit around it. You can't just run
in there. And I think there's a lot of guys
I want.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
To play hero.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I want to get in there.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I got the god complex absolutely. So you have to
stand there. A doctor, you have to stand back.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Wow, the doctors have to hold.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Themselves back at every kid's sports game, let alone walking
through a public square.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
But it's it's hard. I think you need to take
a beat.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That's what we're saying here is hang back, says the age,
give them first, Crow says, the age says the gender age,
gender and get let them try and get up, and
then if they try and fail, then you swoop in.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
It does sound if it's sick, doesn't it it sounds?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
What we want to.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Make so my thing is a lot your your female
friend had said, I don't want help because of the embarrassment, right,
all right, I think I'm sacrificial lambing myself. I think
I go down to I think if a woman goes
down in front of me, I bring myself down, right, No,
I just stack it next to them, right, and I
go bloody hell, the same you know, the same step
(17:50):
got me or whatever. And then when we're both on
the deck, we're in this shed embarrassing situation.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
How do you want to hand up?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
You're over the age of fifty? Should we shame your id?
Let's go to Josie. Hello, Josie, what do you reckon?
If a woman falls over in public? Should help her
back up?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Again?
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Is it a woman? Yes, if it's a man, depending
on how he looks?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, right, what look? Would you not want to help? Josie?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
You know, like the ones that I haven't slept in
forty eight hours, so.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Will on a Monday morning?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Thanks Josie. Let's go to Kate. Interesting, Josie didn't bring
out the embarrassment factor?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
No, yeah, not at all.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Kate. Just the look of the man, Kate, you fall
down publicly often.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
I do. I'm a cereal face planter.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Okay, sorry?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Should people help you up? Or was the embarrassment worse
than the injury?
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Well, I like, depending on where I am. I like
to make it as awkward as possible because I have
a disability, right, so I'll just pull that out and
be like, haha, it's so sorry. I'm fastic and that's
the medical term. That's the medical term for what I'm
experiencing right now. And always help someone up. Always.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Oh so you've just superseded the embarrassment, Kate. And you're
just saying like if you if I'm going to go down,
just embrace it and then get help.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Yeah, I'm gonna and then like buy me a coffee
or something like haha.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I've already helped you up. I'm not buying you a coffee.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Guys. Two mentions in the studio.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
I am in the studio, and it's just bragging about
how good his last interview with Til was.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So, you know, instantly nervous and it makes my first
question look really ship.
Speaker 10 (19:39):
You need me to make your question.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
A statement it's really bad, man, It's just such a
step down.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
So so.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
So the show is called Tim Minton Time Machine.
Speaker 10 (19:57):
Oh that's the album.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Such low quality.
Speaker 10 (20:06):
I'm flogging more than.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I'm always more than.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
The show is called Songs of the World Will Never Hear. Yeah,
the album is called Tim Innch and Time Machine.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Nice experience, roll on from there. That's a really solid
foundation for a really good interview. Yeah, smashing it obviously,
Frost Nixon in.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You really got back.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I'm never without a record.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
I'm bored already.
Speaker 10 (20:39):
Oh man, he's just trying to plug my stuff for me.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
I was just going in the correlation between Tim Innches
and time Machine.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
I mean, yeah, it's nice. Yeah, I had for a
year I recorded all these songs. So time Machine is
cool time Machine because there's songs are written my ye.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I knew that.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
Yeah, But for the first six months before we put
it out, I was going to call attic songs, which
is cute but a bit sort of folks see. And
then I went tim mentionin time Machine just as a
visual thing.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, so what made you go back to these songs
that you wrote in your twenties?
Speaker 8 (21:20):
I mean, like everything I do, it's sort of somewhere
in between really intentional and just completely not thought out
at all, and I never know quite which one I'm
doing it.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I just whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
It was.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
Eighteen months ago, I rang my band and went, I've
got all these old songs that I've never recorded. I
just want to jam them. And I went up to
near where my drama lives, and we had a rehearsal
studio and we play these songs, and because there's such guns,
by the end of the day, I was like, these
are banging right, these are sounding great, and my drama
Evan goes, O, well, why don't we just instead of
coming back to rehearsal studio tomorrow, because I'd booked two days,
(21:53):
We'll just go to the studio studio. And so we
recorded four songs that second day, and then we went
back and did a few more, and I just I
didn't really have a plan for them. So there was
no real intention except that I put my first ever
studio album out in twenty twenty, and I just since then,
I'm like, well, I've got all these other songs. They're
not as new, but I don't know. This year I'm
(22:14):
turning fifty, I'm doing this tour. That's like a celebration
of the twenty year anniversary since my stuff took off twenties.
Speaker 10 (22:20):
Yeah, and I put this album out.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
It's just like a little having a little pause and
a bit of a grateful like count my blessings like
it's been Really, I'm I'm not finishing.
Speaker 10 (22:30):
It's not a Johnny Farnham retirement.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
To look back a pause because I'm not good at that.
Speaker 10 (22:35):
I'm really bad at taking stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
What's next?
Speaker 10 (22:38):
What's next?
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, you're.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Always so busy.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Well, I know that you've released a new version of
not Perfect on there as well, So.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Perfect.
Speaker 10 (22:46):
Oh my god, so dad, But that's mt.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
It's not perfect?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Am I right in saying that?
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Don't make me listen to my moment?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Do you really not like that at all?
Speaker 10 (23:03):
Is that not perfect?
Speaker 8 (23:06):
It's in a funny place for me because it's it's
it means a huge amount to a lot of people
in a way that I'm not having tickets on myself.
Speaker 10 (23:13):
It's just over over the years, I have got so
told you. It's like people have.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
The lyrics tattooed on their arms and stuff, and it
means a lot to people who struggle, especially with chronic
pain or disability or whatever, because it's celebrating imperfection or
and the there's a huge conversation to have there. But
when these songs in isolation for your listeners, I'm like,
(23:38):
oh you you sort of have to hear this whole
song in a moment of quiet. It's not you know,
I wouldn't want It's not.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I mean, we do it in every second of these days,
and he manages to.
Speaker 10 (23:54):
I struggle to listen to my own Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You're humble. I get it.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Do you have What about when you're watching yourself on
screen or something like that?
Speaker 8 (24:04):
Is that Weirdly, I'm I'm much more comfortable watching myself
playing a character. Maybe that's not weird because we all
I don't like me, but I don't mind Lucky.
Speaker 10 (24:16):
I don't mind my guy from upright. A few reasons.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
One because when I'm filming TV, I usually do the
work to get myself in good new reare to go
for it, and you get good makeup and good lights
so that the cameras are looking after you.
Speaker 10 (24:30):
But also I'm not being me.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
So the thing we all struggle with when we listen
to our voice on a phone message we've all got
that is that our understanding of ourself from the inside
out is one thing, and when we observe ourselves from
the outside in, it just there's just dissonance there.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Tickets is playing Melbourn, Brisbane, Adelaide, Canberra, Perth, Newcastle, Sydney.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Well, the whole country, Gold Coast.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
To the then mostly sold out by the way, guys gone,
Jesus Christ, you sold out everywhere.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
The still some there, Okay, cool, all right, so check
that out Tim mention dot com if you see me
anywhere in the country. And we got how did the
relationship with your artwork.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Change as you got older?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Because I often find if I write something or if
I record something, and then I look back on it
in a short window, Yeah, I've.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
Got it all over it.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I've got the goggles on, I've got the lens, the
judgment lens on where it's not it's NQR.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
But then that five year range you give yourself, Oh
there's gold there. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
I find it unbearable to watch anything soon. Yeah, and
it takes about fifteen or twenty years for me to go,
oh kid was doing fine.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, really you might love thing, but there's like enough ingenuity.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
There and it's a huge relief and it's I don't
know that maybe we should just be nicer to ourselves.
Speaker 10 (25:56):
But also there's something natural about that.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Hearing you talk about your brain and the writing process
and stuff, and I'm interested to ask AI. Yeah, people
are worried that AI are now writing songs and AI
can do everyone's out. We've put things in AI about
radio ideas or doing the radio show where do you
sit with AI? In the future of AI?
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Within art well, I've taken to saying on stage that
I think humans seem intent on conveniencing themselves into meaninglessness.
There's a couple of different conversations. One is can AI
do what I do? AI will be able to already
(26:38):
can write Max Martin style hit, And that's not to
diss on Max Martin. I mean all those incredible pop
hits were It was a form that was created by
mostly Scandinavians, and now it's just a clear enough formula
that a computer can definitely do it. You know something
about a firework, the bridge goes here, literally fits into
(27:00):
a grid, the key change or whatever. There's still some
interesting decisions to be made. You can just say to
the AI oh, can you follow the route less on
the base, you know whatever, so you can do that.
I think AI will come for me pretty late. It'll
take a while for it to write what I write
because it's it's pretty weird.
Speaker 10 (27:21):
And I'm not that's not a value judgment. I'm just
it doesn't do very well. Much.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
More to the point is why the hell would we
want to listen to it? Because art is not just content.
And this is where we've all got confused. We've got
these evil, fricking devices in our hands all the time,
and I think we need a revolution, and I think
my kids generation might do it. They might just go, oh, no,
we can't. It's poisoned.
Speaker 10 (27:49):
You know.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Social media is dismantling liberal democracy because it's an algorithm
that makes us divided.
Speaker 10 (27:54):
Blah blah. It'll just be like smoking. This is the idea.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
But more than any thing, I am the optimist in me,
and I don't see any reason to be anything but optimistic,
because where the hell did pessimism ever get anyone that.
I think there'll be a backlash against the just the
you're just getting absolute. I think AI will just be
seen as kitsch because art is not just content. It's
(28:19):
content plus intent, and if there's nothing having the intention,
I think we will just go. Oh, I don't know
whether that's AI or human. We're going to put our
phones down and buy theater tickets.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
What's going to happen.
Speaker 10 (28:30):
There's going to be a massive backlash.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Optimism if we keep telling this story.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
The live show is still is still.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
It's coming back, you know. And I'm very lucky because
I was never a recording artist. I'm not I'm not
a content guy. I hate it. But the only things
you can't steal are West End musicals because you've got
to go and my gigs and just like, yeah, bring it,
bring the bring that.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I sold them.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Aloud, guys, he sold them all out. Don't you worry
about that?
Speaker 9 (29:04):
Hey, before you go, my gigs are banging, by the way,
amazing worth reflecting it might be a step one deeper,
but the fact that you can go and enjoy a
show and reflect on your.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Own humanity is maybe a sign of sentience that everyone
should appreciate as well.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
Maybe I mean, I'm picking it up because I want
to sell tickets.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Tim mention time machines out now, and tickets to songs
in the world will never here are still available Tim
Inns dot comedy fresh off the UK and he sold
out a hell of a lot of shows all over
the country. But he's added news shows in Melbourne, Brisbane,
canber and Perth.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
So you're want to go along and see Tim, then
Tim Minchin dot com. Tim thanks so much for coming.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
In such pleasure to mate.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Thank you
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