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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcasts, playlists and listen
live on the Free Hard.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Right now though, we are joined by an Australian of
the Year. This guy's the busiest going Australia. I mean
it was funny. It's funny you see Dylan Orcott everywhere
like you really do, particularly tennis. Very shortly as well,
you're going to be seeing a whole lot more of him.
The rap she it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Woods we're going through it before. I don't reckon anyone
has a rap sheet like it. So he is an
Olympic tennis player and basketball player. Three gold medals, one
silver medal. He's won the Australian Open seven years straight
and he's also received the Australian of the Year. Yeah, like,
it really is phenomenal and I just wonder, I mean,
how do you keep that ego under control?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Dalan Orcott?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
You forgot the most important thing, which is washed up
loser athlete these days a crap.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Can I finish that washed up loser athlete that gets
seen at Disney World alone as a thirty four year
old man?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yeah, yeah, I had. I had a keynote over in
America and it was that Disney World. I was like,
I'm going to go to Disney World by myself. There
is just purely adults there. People. Oh mate, we're in
full pink you hear dog me one gold medal then,
by the way, four gold medals, but.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Producers, that's a bulling.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Wow, that is rough. There you go. Where do you
keep all the metals? Still, that's a good question.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I've actually just got them under my wheelchair at all times.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Wants a cow bell. Just hear him chinking from a
while out.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
If you ever see me speak, I actually bring them
out and throw them in the crowd. You know, they're
very cool and and all that to be able to
see them, but it's the journey that means the most
to me. But letting little kids touch them and stuff like,
it's so amazing. But they have definitely been beaten up.
I don't know if they're going to last my whole life,
but I think I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That lay slight oh nesting going on throwing four gold
medals into a crowd of people.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yeah, I literally throw them and if they hit you
in the head, you might have a concussion. But they
haven't heard anyone yet, which is good.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Hey, you got a new foundation which has launched recently.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah. So yeah, we started out you know, the deal
ANCOF Foundation, Well, well nearly a deck out ago, but
we launched an initiative around advertising called the Shift twenty initiative,
trying to shift the needle to get greater representation for
the five and a half million Australians in some form
of disability and today International Day People with Disability Disability
Christmas as I like to call it, whenever I took
something called We launched something called eighty for twenty which
(02:43):
is unlocking over ten million dollars in added media value
for brands who've cast inclusively of disability. So we've got
so many media companies involved in this like Amazon, R
and n Foxtel News dot Com, Paramount Q, Messift to
name a few. So for example, Kiss, where you guys work.
If a brand was to cast a voice actor with
disability for the radio, whether that brand has one thousand
(03:07):
dollars or a million dollars in ad spend, they get
twenty percent extra in that value. So if someone like
Uber Eats or anz or NB or whatever spent a
million dollars, they get two hundred thousand dollars donated by
r and to be able to How cool is that? Yeah,
we just want to kick that the industry. Like. The
reasons brand should cast people with disability is not just
(03:30):
the social equity. It's because it's good business, you know
what I mean? Like one in two astrands are more
likely to buy a product if they see someone with
disability in an added right, good business to do it.
On top of that, we're just trying to give incentives
to give more awesome people with disability the opportunity to
work in this industry that we work in. You know
what I man?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And can I ask you?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Why is that if you see someone with a disability
advertising something, you're more likely to buy it?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah? It's a really good point, right because you know,
if an organization or a brand they want to represent
their customer base correct, and if twenty percent of their
customer base have disability, well then you should have greater representation.
I need less than two percent of seen on our screens.
But of the twenty percentity strained population have disability, seventy
six percent are touched by disability via their brother, their mum,
(04:18):
their friend at work, on whatever it is so being
inclusive is actually a really good business decision, right, But
it also you know, boys, we've been friends for what
ten to fifteen years, I never saw anybody like me
on TV anything, and it it used to break my heart,
right and I always wanted to try and change that.
And another cool thing we've done with Shift twenty is
(04:41):
we have an open casting talent agency on TikTok, so
people can search Shift twenty casting calls. So if you're
a person with disability, you can put your tapes up
there and then brands can go on there and cast
you from that. We're just trying to think of cool
ways to break it down to give the people the
opportunities they deserve.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I love that one.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Real got it is so if people want to find
out more, head to Shift twenty dot org slash eighty
for twenty to find out more. All those numbers are
in numbers, by the way, So like, I love the
dear deal, but maybe simplify the website lot going on there,
hey mate, it would be probably remissive. It's not talking
about the AO just around the corner. I got a
question for you, obviously you're a big tennis fan. One,
what is it two gold medals and.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
He's actually one four guys at the same time this year.
I've also seen you at your fair share of Dorf's,
So I know there's some really good electronic music that's
going to be going on down.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
In Melbourne Park.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Hot Ship is going to be there amongst a bunch
of other people.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Is it prodidt Are you going to be playing down
there as well? The presets?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I'm pretty sure Harvey Sutherland's going to be down there
as well.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's some really cool music.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The kid Leroy to be a little bit more on
brand for Kiss, But for all those people that are
into Harvey Sutherland, I'm proud of him.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But dyl, how are you going to choose? What I mean,
is it going to be tennis or a Dorf for
you while you're down there?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I mean a little from column, a little from.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Columb Yeah, that's what tis.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah. I'll be working on the on the Wild of
Sports in the nine network. It was quite funny last
year I had to go do the panel to throw
to the Men's Semi five. I was on the panel
with John McEnroe and Jim Corrier and I reckon four
minutes before I had to do that. I was watching
Kesher John Carena and I'm like, I'm going I want
(06:20):
to see TikTok. I've got to see Kesher and they
produce like and they can see me on the cameras
on the cameras, right. I get to travel all around
the world, obviously playing tenters, but now I get to
go to so many events and things like that. And
the way that it integrates, not just the tennis, whether
it's food, music, accessibility and exclusion they have. They have
(06:41):
an all Abilities Day where they make we make the
site fully accessible for people disability to come check it out.
They were really invest in it. I'm lucky that I
play a very very very small role in it and
I roll. I dust off my tennis racket once a
year and pretend I can still play tennis. How they hit,
which I enjoy. And yeah, Matt, I can't wait for
January to roll around.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That's unreal. I want to talk a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'm not sure if we should be promoting crowdsurfing or not,
but Will and I were chatting just before you joined
this about the fact that you'll do a wheelchair CrowdSurf
every now and then. I'm curious when was the when
was the first time you wheelchair crowdsurfed?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And whose idea was it?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah? I was in the moshpit at this small festival
called Coachella and there was this there was this new
up and cooming rapper called jay Z playing, and I thought,
you know, I got to I got to give this
guy a bit of love. So I decided to decide
it to CrowdSurf and it was the best, say in
the house. I've only been dropped once, and actually YouTube
(07:36):
wheelchair crowdsurft fail right now if your garden, don't do that,
but you will see me and I'll tell you the
same thing I told my mom. I did not end
up any more disabled than I started. I didn't get
any new funding, I didn't get any new NBA suckage.
But my crowd serving highlight was crowdsurfing at Meritith Music
Festival and getting on stage and rapping with my musical heroes,
(07:58):
the Wu Tang Clan, which was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
So yeah, that is so which video I'm sure there's
a video of that as well. Deal, but which video
has more hits? You failing with the crowd surfing or
you wrapping with Wu Tang.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Well, the wood Tang one does have a couple of million,
but the wheelchair crowds frail across multiple platforms has a
lot more than ken million. I think it was on
this show called Tosh point zero back in yeah, and
he did an absolute takedown off me.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It was very very that's so good.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I love all the wonderful work you do, Deal, I mean,
winning four gold medals, and yet the biggest thing on
the internet is still you falling out of your chair
at a music festival.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
That's that's that's just great.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
They held the wheelchair up for two more minutes, yeah,
because they didn't realize I'm on the crown and they're going,
geez deals, Deal's light and I'm like, I'm down here.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Oh that is really awesome. Hey, Dyla, who's your pick
for the Aussie Open before we let you go?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah. I think Carlos, our Charas and Yani are just
in a new level, to be honest, And in the
women's you know, it's tough to go us Sabalanca and
Coco Golfs are who are doing really good stuff. And
you know some new young lossy women as well. My
joint and stuff like that out there so let's see
how we go. It's going to be another great somewhere
tennis And yeah, if you do come and you see
(09:22):
me out there, come sagurday because I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And if he is wheelchair crowd surfing, make sure he's
still in the wield.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, I agree, just a bit of a psa.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
If you're going to pick him up, make sure he
still well, maybe get a seatbelt going on something mate.
A bit of responsibility from you as an adult would
be great.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, well, I actually I know I asked you ture
to do it, but now that you're both dads and
you know gott to look after your babies, you just
don't want to get me up there. Nah, you know it.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
You know other people to look after live it after
a full dolt as well. Hey Dyl, it's so good
to have you on the show mate. Always good to
hear your voice. Congrats on everything. A little reminder of
anyone wants to learn about how they can unlock some
serious value in their business in media value. And this
is just for brands who cast inclusively to people with disability.
Head along to Shift twenty dot org slash eighty for
(10:04):
twenty if you guys want to get involved in this
wonderful interiadew from Dylan Ork Dell have gatos you O man,
We'll I hope you to stay over summer always.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Big love to you and big love to everybody involved,
including PhD and Special who made this happen. But you've
been massive supporters of Me Boys as always with disability
and what we're doing, So thank you, Love you, Matte
My Heart podcasts, hear more Kiss podcasts, playlists and listen
live on the Free Hard.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Right now though, we are joined by an Australian of
the Year. This guy's the busiest going Australia. I mean
it was funny. It's funny you see Dylan Orcott everywhere
like you really do, particularly tennis. Very shortly as well,
you're going to be seeing a whole lot more of him.
The rap she it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Woods we're going through it before. I don't reckon anyone
has a rap sheet like it. So he is an
Olympic tennis player and basketball player. Three gold medals, one
silver medal. He's won the Australian Open seven years straight
and he's also received the Australian of the Year. Yeah, like,
it really is phenomenal and I just wonder, I mean,
how do you keep that ego under control?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Dalan Orcott?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
You forgot the most important thing, which is washed up
loser athlete these days a crap.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Can I finish that washed up loser athlete that gets
seen at Disney World alone as a thirty four year
old man?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yeah, yeah, I had. I had a keynote over in
America and it was that Disney World. I was like,
I'm going to go to Disney World by myself. There
is just purely adults there. People. Oh mate, we're in
full pink you hear dog me one gold medal then,
by the way, four gold medals, but.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Producers, that's a bulling.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Wow, that is rough. There you go. Where do you
keep all the metals? Still, that's a good question.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I've actually just got them under my wheelchair at all times.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Wants a cow bell. Just hear him chinking from a
while out.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
If you ever see me speak, I actually bring them
out and throw them in the crowd. You know, they're
very cool and and all that to be able to
see them, but it's the journey that means the most
to me. But letting little kids touch them and stuff like,
it's so amazing. But they have definitely been beaten up.
I don't know if they're going to last my whole life,
but I think I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
That lay slight oh nesting going on throwing four gold
medals into a crowd of people.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yeah, I literally throw them and if they hit you
in the head, you might have a concussion. But they
haven't heard anyone yet, which is good.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Hey, you got a new foundation which has launched recently.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah. So yeah, we started out you know, the deal
ANCOF Foundation, Well, well nearly a deck out ago, but
we launched an initiative around advertising called the Shift twenty initiative,
trying to shift the needle to get greater representation for
the five and a half million Australians in some form
of disability and today International Day People with Disability Disability
Christmas as I like to call it, whenever I took
something called We launched something called eighty for twenty which
(02:43):
is unlocking over ten million dollars in added media value
for brands who've cast inclusively of disability. So we've got
so many media companies involved in this like Amazon, R
and n Foxtel News dot Com, Paramount Q, Messift to
name a few. So for example, Kiss, where you guys work.
If a brand was to cast a voice actor with
disability for the radio, whether that brand has one thousand
(03:07):
dollars or a million dollars in ad spend, they get
twenty percent extra in that value. So if someone like
Uber Eats or anz or NB or whatever spent a
million dollars, they get two hundred thousand dollars donated by
r and to be able to How cool is that? Yeah,
we just want to kick that the industry. Like. The
reasons brand should cast people with disability is not just
(03:30):
the social equity. It's because it's good business, you know
what I mean? Like one in two astrands are more
likely to buy a product if they see someone with
disability in an added right, good business to do it.
On top of that, we're just trying to give incentives
to give more awesome people with disability the opportunity to
work in this industry that we work in. You know
what I man?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And can I ask you?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Why is that if you see someone with a disability
advertising something, you're more likely to buy it?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah? It's a really good point, right because you know,
if an organization or a brand they want to represent
their customer base correct, and if twenty percent of their
customer base have disability, well then you should have greater representation.
I need less than two percent of seen on our screens.
But of the twenty percentity strained population have disability, seventy
six percent are touched by disability via their brother, their mum,
(04:18):
their friend at work, on whatever it is so being
inclusive is actually a really good business decision, right, But
it also you know, boys, we've been friends for what
ten to fifteen years, I never saw anybody like me
on TV anything, and it it used to break my heart,
right and I always wanted to try and change that.
And another cool thing we've done with Shift twenty is
(04:41):
we have an open casting talent agency on TikTok, so
people can search Shift twenty casting calls. So if you're
a person with disability, you can put your tapes up
there and then brands can go on there and cast
you from that. We're just trying to think of cool
ways to break it down to give the people the
opportunities they deserve.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I love that one.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Real got it is so if people want to find
out more, head to Shift twenty dot org slash eighty
for twenty to find out more. All those numbers are
in numbers, by the way, So like, I love the
dear deal, but maybe simplify the website lot going on there,
hey mate, it would be probably remissive. It's not talking
about the AO just around the corner. I got a
question for you, obviously you're a big tennis fan. One,
what is it two gold medals and.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
He's actually one four guys at the same time this year.
I've also seen you at your fair share of Dorf's,
So I know there's some really good electronic music that's
going to be going on down.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
In Melbourne Park.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Hot Ship is going to be there amongst a bunch
of other people.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Is it prodidt Are you going to be playing down
there as well? The presets?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I'm pretty sure Harvey Sutherland's going to be down there
as well.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's some really cool music.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The kid Leroy to be a little bit more on
brand for Kiss, But for all those people that are
into Harvey Sutherland, I'm proud of him.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But dyl, how are you going to choose? What I mean,
is it going to be tennis or a Dorf for
you while you're down there?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I mean a little from column, a little from.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Columb Yeah, that's what tis.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah. I'll be working on the on the Wild of
Sports in the nine network. It was quite funny last
year I had to go do the panel to throw
to the Men's Semi five. I was on the panel
with John McEnroe and Jim Corrier and I reckon four
minutes before I had to do that. I was watching
Kesher John Carena and I'm like, I'm going I want
(06:20):
to see TikTok. I've got to see Kesher and they
produce like and they can see me on the cameras
on the cameras, right. I get to travel all around
the world, obviously playing tenters, but now I get to
go to so many events and things like that. And
the way that it integrates, not just the tennis, whether
it's food, music, accessibility and exclusion they have. They have
(06:41):
an all Abilities Day where they make we make the
site fully accessible for people disability to come check it out.
They were really invest in it. I'm lucky that I
play a very very very small role in it and
I roll. I dust off my tennis racket once a
year and pretend I can still play tennis. How they hit,
which I enjoy. And yeah, Matt, I can't wait for
January to roll around.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That's unreal. I want to talk a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'm not sure if we should be promoting crowdsurfing or not,
but Will and I were chatting just before you joined
this about the fact that you'll do a wheelchair CrowdSurf
every now and then. I'm curious when was the when
was the first time you wheelchair crowdsurfed?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And whose idea was it?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah? I was in the moshpit at this small festival
called Coachella and there was this there was this new
up and cooming rapper called jay Z playing, and I thought,
you know, I got to I got to give this
guy a bit of love. So I decided to decide
it to CrowdSurf and it was the best, say in
the house. I've only been dropped once, and actually YouTube
(07:36):
wheelchair crowdsurft fail right now if your garden, don't do that,
but you will see me and I'll tell you the
same thing I told my mom. I did not end
up any more disabled than I started. I didn't get
any new funding, I didn't get any new NBA suckage.
But my crowd serving highlight was crowdsurfing at Meritith Music
Festival and getting on stage and rapping with my musical heroes,
(07:58):
the Wu Tang Clan, which was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
So yeah, that is so which video I'm sure there's
a video of that as well. Deal, but which video
has more hits? You failing with the crowd surfing or
you wrapping with Wu Tang.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Well, the wood Tang one does have a couple of million,
but the wheelchair crowds frail across multiple platforms has a
lot more than ken million. I think it was on
this show called Tosh point zero back in yeah, and
he did an absolute takedown off me.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It was very very that's so good.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I love all the wonderful work you do, Deal, I mean,
winning four gold medals, and yet the biggest thing on
the internet is still you falling out of your chair
at a music festival.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
That's that's that's just great.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
They held the wheelchair up for two more minutes, yeah,
because they didn't realize I'm on the crown and they're going,
geez deals, Deal's light and I'm like, I'm down here.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Oh that is really awesome. Hey, Dyla, who's your pick
for the Aussie Open before we let you go?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah. I think Carlos, our Charas and Yani are just
in a new level, to be honest, And in the
women's you know, it's tough to go us Sabalanca and
Coco Golfs are who are doing really good stuff. And
you know some new young lossy women as well. My
joint and stuff like that out there so let's see
how we go. It's going to be another great somewhere
tennis And yeah, if you do come and you see
(09:22):
me out there, come sagurday because I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And if he is wheelchair crowd surfing, make sure he's
still in the wield.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, I agree, just a bit of a psa.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
If you're going to pick him up, make sure he
still well, maybe get a seatbelt going on something mate.
A bit of responsibility from you as an adult would
be great.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, well, I actually I know I asked you ture
to do it, but now that you're both dads and
you know gott to look after your babies, you just
don't want to get me up there. Nah, you know it.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
You know other people to look after live it after
a full dolt as well. Hey Dyl, it's so good
to have you on the show mate. Always good to
hear your voice. Congrats on everything. A little reminder of
anyone wants to learn about how they can unlock some
serious value in their business in media value. And this
is just for brands who cast inclusively to people with disability.
Head along to Shift twenty dot org slash eighty for
(10:04):
twenty if you guys want to get involved in this
wonderful interiadew from Dylan Ork Dell have gatos you O man,
We'll I hope you to stay over summer always.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Big love to you and big love to everybody involved,
including PhD and Special who made this happen. But you've
been massive supporters of Me Boys as always with disability
and what we're doing, So thank you, Love you, Matte
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