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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My Heart podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free I hard.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Ned Brockman is in the studio with the boys the Savo.
Welcome back, Eddie.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
No, it's good to be home. Feels like home in here.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
When did it become When did the studio become home?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Every time I rock up here, I just I feel welcome,
open arm sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It's it's good, it's good to be back. Yeah, how
are you?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's good to have you here, mate. Well, I actually
because I think you've got some more interesting stuff going.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
On in your lives than we do. About both have children. Yeah, yeah,
we've covered that.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So you won this Big five marathon thing in South
Africa and then after doing the race, you found out
that you were injured. What was the injury?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I found out eight k into the forty two k
I rolled my ankle and broke my qboid bone in
my foot and I had thirty four k the best
to go.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And unfortunately, I'm a bit of a loud mouth.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
So when I said I was going to try to
break the record, and by the time I got to
the start line, everyone's like, oh, that's a go.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I try to break the record, So I had.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
To see the thing through to the end and ended
up breaking the record by thirty seconds and pulled through
at the wind, but not the broken record and a
broken foot as a prize.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
So so so for the normal human being out there,
if you do the injury that you did, what was it.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So broken cuboid? Yeah, it's like a floating bone in
the foot. What would the recovery?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
What would the recovery be for someone like me if
I did that?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Oh it is it's an instant eight week in like
six weeks in a boot.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, so for most people it's eight weeks in a boot.
You decided to keep going for thirty four more k's
in one of It's one of the hardest marathons to run,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, it's very hard. Like the terrain's pretty nuts like
it would be. Yeah, you got a three k unrunnable hill,
soft sand for about twenty k, animals around it, the
fear of a lion being around any corner.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I felt it immediately and I was like, oh, I
should be able to run on this. And my rule
is if it's not broken, you can run on it
and it was broken, and I thought.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It's not broken. It's not broken, so I should be
able to run on it. As soon as I stopped.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Twenty minutes later, I was like, this thing is definitely broken,
esush and limp my way home and got an MRI
twenty minutes off half forgot off the plane and it
was it was broken us idiot.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I think we can keep those comments to ourselves. Well,
so we are going to continue that trend of your
an idiot.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So the other thing you've done in the last year
is so you were trying to stay uf. Your leg's
a bit like you did the Big Big five marathon, obviously,
but I know that the body has been beaten from
pillar to posts.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So you went, you went, I'm going to do another
endurance event.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'm going to ride my bike for twenty four hours straight.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
So prior to that, are you a cyclist?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, no, So I did, I ran London, I say
it again, yeah, idiot, idiot.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
No, I as I broke my foots I was allowed
within the parameters of the injury to ride and I said,
I'm all good to ride.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
They said, yep, you can ride right as much as
you like.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And I went well, it's twenty four hours in a date,
so let's let's do laps of Centennial Park. Got about
seven hundred and forty k done in the twenty four hours,
which is grim. But I loved it, loved it.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Don't say it's.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It was that hard for you doing twenty four hours
straight to cycling.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
It was beautiful, it was it was blessed. It's my
favorite place to be. It's where my head is free
and I don't think about it things. So it's yeah,
only two hundred laps a Centennial part.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Two hundred, so I do by gride, so an issue
that I have if I like so if I go
for a ride over one hundred k's so that's a
seventh of what you did in a day, and I
write a lot to build up to one hundred k's.
I struggle with saddle saws like your ass canes. Yeah,
how was the tushe after seven hundred and forty k's.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
A bit of Pete Murray send better days. It's it
was all right. I mean, there's worse things going on
in the world. Just you know, a bit a bit
of chafe between the old thighs and butt isn't too bad.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Is it. I don't know. I haven't run, I haven't
ridden seven hundred laps years. Fuck, it's fine, it's fine.
There's way worse things going. It's all good. Do you
love the attitude? I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I feel like there are so many sites, like various
psychologists that would listen to your talk, that would just
love to sink their teeth into you, because I like.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And you've probably been beating them off with a stick,
haven't you. What's your relationship with rest?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh? The finitude of life makes me not want to rest?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Okay, Yeah, And I know that will change over time
and priorities change, but you cannot last through the future,
and that's not something I'm prepared to do and prepared
to be in the moment right now. And if you've
got twenty four hours to ride a bike and you're
allowed to, then do it. So obviously a broken bone
brings on a limited amount of training, a limited amount
of exercise, and so that is a bit nali for
someone who can't sit still. Yeah, but it's been really
(04:49):
cooks and been able to like write and read and
actually like protize other things. So it's been happening outside
of this training, which has been a really special thing.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And I guess that's why that's why we're here today.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You are here MNEA ten to four oh one club
at Minor ten dot com dot au. So this is
really about, first of all, just recognizing some of the
statistics around trade is meant health as a result of
their work. So might attend did this survey over eight
in ten of traders have faced mental health challenges. The
one that really scared me before was that one in
five traderes admitted of experienced sual side of thought as
(05:20):
a result of work related challenges, which is crazy. And
I know it used to be a sparky every one. Obviously,
I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Maybe I got shocked.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Maybe that's what happened was electrical belts gone, can't turn
it off?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Is that you were a sparky when you you run
a marathon every day fifty days.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
When you were a sparking.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yes, indeed in twenty twenty and then I quit about
six weeks form my run across Holes and I haven't
looked back. But I'm very fond and proud of my
days as a trade and tradesmen and women are the
backbone of the nation in my opinion. So yeah, this
four O one club, it's an initiae by mn to
ten a minute after tools down where instead of you know,
(05:59):
getting off the tools and heading to the pub to
get on the beers, it's actually around moving the body,
chatting to mates and eating good food and trying to
and start conversation around that. So yeah, the idea is
we've been able to go around the country. I've been
in Sydney last week, Adelaide yesterday and Melbourne tomorrow meeting
that the might a ten going for run and starting
conversation beautiful.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So why do you think those stats around trades are
really really scary?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Why do you think tradees in particular struggle with their
mental health?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
It's complex, but I would say a few things. Trades
men and women go into because they love the trade,
and then there's a lot of pressures that come with
running a business that have nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
To do with your skills as a tradesman.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
You go in and there's all these complex around not
getting paid and delayed payments. It's the only industry where
you go buy a service and they do it and
then there's like a fourteen to twenty eight day pay
cycle back where like you know, you go into woolies,
you buy your thing, you have to pay instant. The
trades might be leveraging, paying their trades and then not
getting paid by the client, and then there's all these
financial pressures and they might be out on other jobs
(06:57):
and it's just this overwhelming sense of oh, I'm not
doing enough.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I'm going to the march and behind.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And they're not even addressing and they're waking up and
they're constantly thinking about it. So I think there's a
lot of stuff and cost living pressure are massive as well.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So is there a human nature to actually this moment?
The other day, so we've got an electrician Dan, if
he's listening, great dude. He's moved a number of things
around in our house for us, and like I look
at what he does and I'm like, well, firstly, I
just could never do that, but secondly, it's bloody dangerous,
like being an electric as you'd know. He gave me
the other day and he came we bought some other
bloke called Mark. I mean, the first thing I always
do is like, you know, shut the other guy's Handsake good,
(07:30):
How I going? I'm will This is my daughter Max,
who's notmally running around at the time, and then I
say to him, do you guys want like a coffee
or like a tear or anything, and then like we
have a chat and he he said to me when
he left the other day, he was like, oh, thanks
by the way, Will And I was like, well for
and he was like, oh, I don't know, it's just
you know, you just see good to Mark and like
offer him a tea and stuff. And I was like, oh,
it doesn't like you're in my house. Yeah, so I
think that'd be weird if I didn't do that. And
(07:52):
he was like, yeah, but you don't realize. Yeah, he's
normally it's just good. How you going. Here's the thing.
And then even if they're working, they're working from home,
they ignore me. Yeah, So I imagine it can be
very solitary.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Well, especially in that too, is like you might go
into a client's house and they're watching or every move
and not trusting.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
What you're doing.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
You're like, you've employed me for all my years of
work to come and do this job, and then you're asking,
because you're paying the money to make sure it's oh,
can you do it this? So you can do It's
like why DoD you get me? Yeah, let me do
that complexity as well. But yeah, I think I think
what's really cool about this is that we're able to
have these conversations and share what's going on. And the
whole point of this is, like, I'm not I'm not
a psychologist.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I don't know the complexities of mental health, but I
do know that if you move your body, eat good,
and chat with mates, you're like nine percent of the
way there with with having a lot more clarity on
this situation. So that's the whole point of this is
to work on your physical and mental fitness for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, so a big part of that is using running
as a tool to help with mental health. But I'm
going to play some audio and cause I know you're
a very upbeat man, but I've never heard you like this.
After the thousand miles, you're in a pretty rough spot,
is you talking to us?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Might not even be running again. I might just leave
running with a bit of a bank.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It's great to hear your voice.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Love you, guys.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I know you're in a dark and probably a bit
of a scary spot right now, and it feels a
bit empty, but it'll get all the hell of a
lot better one day, mate, get some rest. So much
upside to come for you, I promise.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Thank you boys. I appreciate it so much.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, I'll get an emotional now. I remember that clear.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
It was like it was the day after I finished
the thousand mile Yeah, I don't think I'll ever in
my whole existence the day before I drop. You can
ask me what was the hardest thing I've ever done?
And that was that thousand mile run. No matter what
I do in the next however many years, it is
till that moment, it will be the hardest thing I've
ever done. But what is I guess symbolic of this
is that you can always take another step, and if
(09:46):
you keep moving forward, there will be brighter days.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
So that's the whole point.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Did you find it hard to because again this whole
thing is associating mental health with moving your body and
physical fitness, et cetera. Did you find it hard to
associate some level of positivity towards running, like after the
thousand miles?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Like how long did that?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I don't necessarily running to me, isn't I don't love it,
nor do I hate it? Running is just what it
is for me. And so when I do a big
event like that, and you know, you could argue I
ruined my relationship with it, but I don't because.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
It is merely just what it is.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
And so the inability to run was probably what affected
me after it, because I was laying down and.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Resting and I just cooked my body for a month.
But yeah, it didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
It didn't affect my relationship with it more than it
just hurts that I couldn't go and run because I
love moving my body.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So there a sense of like I've pushed myself too far,
like I've ruined I've ruined the thing that I knew.
I've ruined my body, which is the thing that I
need to sort of feel good.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I knew i'd screwed it ten times too tight. And
that was the cost of doing an enormous thing like this.
And I'm not saying everyone should go do that. I'm saying,
you know, within reason, a moving body for an hour,
moviebody for twenty minutes, that's the point. But that that
that is a commitment to your word and doing what
you say you're going to do.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, it's very different to heading out the door for
twenty thirty forty minutes a day.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, yeah, that is that is a is extreme, very extreme,
and very publicly showing the world that we are far
more capable than we think.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
If you're willing to go to that place.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah cool?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Am I right in saying that you've had just five
weeks just recently, five weeks off exercise?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Is that more more about three months? Yeah? Three months?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah, just under three months. So I did that twenty
four hour ride and that's been it since now.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So how it's given all you're saying around how important
it is to move your body and stuff, how was that?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Very tough, And that's why I can actually say with
complete confidence that if you don't move your body, your
decision making, your inability to understand scenarios, it's all greatly
inhibited by the fact you haven't.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Cleared your head through physical movement.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
So I actually chose to not because I'm trying to
get as fast as I can in the marathon, and
in doing so, you can't have upper body weights.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I've been training uppers and because.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Idam broke limb, you haven't been able to round a
bike or anything, and so I was like, why don't
you just sit with it? There will never be a
time in your life where you have to just sit
in it. And that was another challenge, was like all right,
let's let's lean in, let's do nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, WHOA did you?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Did you replace it with anything?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, like a lot of writing, a lot of reading,
a lot of nothing, like actually doing nothing, which is
insane for me. Like, it was special and I'm forever
grateful of had it because I'll be able to lean
on that when I'm back running and go, you know what,
you've been through, this, you've been through that, it's all.
It all makes you and creates a more rounded athlete.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Did you have moments where you were like, like walking
to the shops and you're like, I'm just going to
punch out a quick power walk or something to get
that just I was on crutches.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
The majority of Yeah, may I cried. I cried a lot.
Crying is important, very powerful, and stopping is important. Stopping
about rest before.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
But I'll leave that for whichever' psyche is lucky enough
to get their hooks in you.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'd love to read your journal. I reckon, I don't
think we can.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Get that between me and myself and I Hey, you
to donate or sign ups to Needs Uncomfortable Challenge.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Here to Need's Uncomfortable Challenge dot com and find out
more about Marta Tenths four oh one Club at Marten
dot com dot Uneddie. Always good to see, Thanks for
coming in, Thanks for sharing so much, giving so much.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
As always, thank you gentlemen. Always a pleasure to be here.
Great to see you made. Thanks guys,
My Heart podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free I hard.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Ned Brockman is in the studio with the boys the Savo.
Welcome back, Eddie.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
No, it's good to be home. Feels like home in here.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
When did it become When did the studio become home?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Every time I rock up here, I just I feel welcome,
open arm sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It's it's good, it's good to be back. Yeah, how
are you?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's good to have you here, mate. Well, I actually
because I think you've got some more interesting stuff going.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
On in your lives than we do. About both have children. Yeah, yeah,
we've covered that.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So you won this Big five marathon thing in South
Africa and then after doing the race, you found out
that you were injured. What was the injury?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I found out eight k into the forty two k
I rolled my ankle and broke my qboid bone in
my foot and I had thirty four k the best
to go.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And unfortunately, I'm a bit of a loud mouth.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
So when I said I was going to try to
break the record, and by the time I got to
the start line, everyone's like, oh, that's a go.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I try to break the record, So I had.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
To see the thing through to the end and ended
up breaking the record by thirty seconds and pulled through
at the wind, but not the broken record and a
broken foot as a prize.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
So so so for the normal human being out there,
if you do the injury that you did, what was it.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So broken cuboid? Yeah, it's like a floating bone in
the foot. What would the recovery?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
What would the recovery be for someone like me if
I did that?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Oh it is it's an instant eight week in like
six weeks in a boot.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, so for most people it's eight weeks in a boot.
You decided to keep going for thirty four more k's
in one of It's one of the hardest marathons to run,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, it's very hard. Like the terrain's pretty nuts like
it would be. Yeah, you got a three k unrunnable hill,
soft sand for about twenty k, animals around it, the
fear of a lion being around any corner.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I felt it immediately and I was like, oh, I
should be able to run on this. And my rule
is if it's not broken, you can run on it
and it was broken, and I thought.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It's not broken. It's not broken, so I should be
able to run on it. As soon as I stopped.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Twenty minutes later, I was like, this thing is definitely broken,
esush and limp my way home and got an MRI
twenty minutes off half forgot off the plane and it
was it was broken us idiot.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I think we can keep those comments to ourselves. Well,
so we are going to continue that trend of your
an idiot.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So the other thing you've done in the last year
is so you were trying to stay uf. Your leg's
a bit like you did the Big Big five marathon, obviously,
but I know that the body has been beaten from
pillar to posts.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So you went, you went, I'm going to do another
endurance event.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'm going to ride my bike for twenty four hours straight.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
So prior to that, are you a cyclist?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, no, So I did, I ran London, I say
it again, yeah, idiot, idiot.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
No, I as I broke my foots I was allowed
within the parameters of the injury to ride and I said,
I'm all good to ride.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
They said, yep, you can ride right as much as
you like.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And I went well, it's twenty four hours in a date,
so let's let's do laps of Centennial Park. Got about
seven hundred and forty k done in the twenty four hours,
which is grim. But I loved it, loved it.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Don't say it's.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It was that hard for you doing twenty four hours
straight to cycling.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
It was beautiful, it was it was blessed. It's my
favorite place to be. It's where my head is free
and I don't think about it things. So it's yeah,
only two hundred laps a Centennial part.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Two hundred, so I do by gride, so an issue
that I have if I like so if I go
for a ride over one hundred k's so that's a
seventh of what you did in a day, and I
write a lot to build up to one hundred k's.
I struggle with saddle saws like your ass canes. Yeah,
how was the tushe after seven hundred and forty k's.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
A bit of Pete Murray send better days. It's it
was all right. I mean, there's worse things going on
in the world. Just you know, a bit a bit
of chafe between the old thighs and butt isn't too bad.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Is it. I don't know. I haven't run, I haven't
ridden seven hundred laps years. Fuck, it's fine, it's fine.
There's way worse things going. It's all good. Do you
love the attitude? I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I feel like there are so many sites, like various
psychologists that would listen to your talk, that would just
love to sink their teeth into you, because I like.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And you've probably been beating them off with a stick,
haven't you. What's your relationship with rest?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh? The finitude of life makes me not want to rest?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Okay, Yeah, And I know that will change over time
and priorities change, but you cannot last through the future,
and that's not something I'm prepared to do and prepared
to be in the moment right now. And if you've
got twenty four hours to ride a bike and you're
allowed to, then do it. So obviously a broken bone
brings on a limited amount of training, a limited amount
of exercise, and so that is a bit nali for
someone who can't sit still. Yeah, but it's been really
(04:49):
cooks and been able to like write and read and
actually like protize other things. So it's been happening outside
of this training, which has been a really special thing.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And I guess that's why that's why we're here today.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You are here MNEA ten to four oh one club
at Minor ten dot com dot au. So this is
really about, first of all, just recognizing some of the
statistics around trade is meant health as a result of
their work. So might attend did this survey over eight
in ten of traders have faced mental health challenges. The
one that really scared me before was that one in
five traderes admitted of experienced sual side of thought as
(05:20):
a result of work related challenges, which is crazy. And
I know it used to be a sparky every one. Obviously,
I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Maybe I got shocked.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Maybe that's what happened was electrical belts gone, can't turn
it off?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Is that you were a sparky when you you run
a marathon every day fifty days.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
When you were a sparking.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yes, indeed in twenty twenty and then I quit about
six weeks form my run across Holes and I haven't
looked back. But I'm very fond and proud of my
days as a trade and tradesmen and women are the
backbone of the nation in my opinion. So yeah, this
four O one club, it's an initiae by mn to
ten a minute after tools down where instead of you know,
(05:59):
getting off the tools and heading to the pub to
get on the beers, it's actually around moving the body,
chatting to mates and eating good food and trying to
and start conversation around that. So yeah, the idea is
we've been able to go around the country. I've been
in Sydney last week, Adelaide yesterday and Melbourne tomorrow meeting
that the might a ten going for run and starting
conversation beautiful.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So why do you think those stats around trades are
really really scary?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Why do you think tradees in particular struggle with their
mental health?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
It's complex, but I would say a few things. Trades
men and women go into because they love the trade,
and then there's a lot of pressures that come with
running a business that have nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
To do with your skills as a tradesman.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
You go in and there's all these complex around not
getting paid and delayed payments. It's the only industry where
you go buy a service and they do it and
then there's like a fourteen to twenty eight day pay
cycle back where like you know, you go into woolies,
you buy your thing, you have to pay instant. The
trades might be leveraging, paying their trades and then not
getting paid by the client, and then there's all these
financial pressures and they might be out on other jobs
(06:57):
and it's just this overwhelming sense of oh, I'm not
doing enough.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I'm going to the march and behind.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And they're not even addressing and they're waking up and
they're constantly thinking about it. So I think there's a
lot of stuff and cost living pressure are massive as well.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So is there a human nature to actually this moment?
The other day, so we've got an electrician Dan, if
he's listening, great dude. He's moved a number of things
around in our house for us, and like I look
at what he does and I'm like, well, firstly, I
just could never do that, but secondly, it's bloody dangerous,
like being an electric as you'd know. He gave me
the other day and he came we bought some other
bloke called Mark. I mean, the first thing I always
do is like, you know, shut the other guy's Handsake good,
(07:30):
How I going? I'm will This is my daughter Max,
who's notmally running around at the time, and then I
say to him, do you guys want like a coffee
or like a tear or anything, and then like we
have a chat and he he said to me when
he left the other day, he was like, oh, thanks
by the way, Will And I was like, well for
and he was like, oh, I don't know, it's just
you know, you just see good to Mark and like
offer him a tea and stuff. And I was like, oh,
it doesn't like you're in my house. Yeah, so I
think that'd be weird if I didn't do that. And
(07:52):
he was like, yeah, but you don't realize. Yeah, he's
normally it's just good. How you going. Here's the thing.
And then even if they're working, they're working from home,
they ignore me. Yeah, So I imagine it can be
very solitary.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Well, especially in that too, is like you might go
into a client's house and they're watching or every move
and not trusting.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
What you're doing.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
You're like, you've employed me for all my years of
work to come and do this job, and then you're asking,
because you're paying the money to make sure it's oh,
can you do it this? So you can do It's
like why DoD you get me? Yeah, let me do
that complexity as well. But yeah, I think I think
what's really cool about this is that we're able to
have these conversations and share what's going on. And the
whole point of this is, like, I'm not I'm not
a psychologist.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I don't know the complexities of mental health, but I
do know that if you move your body, eat good,
and chat with mates, you're like nine percent of the
way there with with having a lot more clarity on
this situation. So that's the whole point of this is
to work on your physical and mental fitness for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, so a big part of that is using running
as a tool to help with mental health. But I'm
going to play some audio and cause I know you're
a very upbeat man, but I've never heard you like this.
After the thousand miles, you're in a pretty rough spot,
is you talking to us?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Might not even be running again. I might just leave
running with a bit of a bank.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It's great to hear your voice.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Love you, guys.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I know you're in a dark and probably a bit
of a scary spot right now, and it feels a
bit empty, but it'll get all the hell of a
lot better one day, mate, get some rest. So much
upside to come for you, I promise.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Thank you boys. I appreciate it so much.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, I'll get an emotional now. I remember that clear.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
It was like it was the day after I finished
the thousand mile Yeah, I don't think I'll ever in
my whole existence the day before I drop. You can
ask me what was the hardest thing I've ever done?
And that was that thousand mile run. No matter what
I do in the next however many years, it is
till that moment, it will be the hardest thing I've
ever done. But what is I guess symbolic of this
is that you can always take another step, and if
(09:46):
you keep moving forward, there will be brighter days.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
So that's the whole point.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Did you find it hard to because again this whole
thing is associating mental health with moving your body and
physical fitness, et cetera. Did you find it hard to
associate some level of positivity towards running, like after the
thousand miles?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Like how long did that?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I don't necessarily running to me, isn't I don't love it,
nor do I hate it? Running is just what it
is for me. And so when I do a big
event like that, and you know, you could argue I
ruined my relationship with it, but I don't because.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
It is merely just what it is.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
And so the inability to run was probably what affected
me after it, because I was laying down and.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Resting and I just cooked my body for a month.
But yeah, it didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
It didn't affect my relationship with it more than it
just hurts that I couldn't go and run because I
love moving my body.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So there a sense of like I've pushed myself too far,
like I've ruined I've ruined the thing that I knew.
I've ruined my body, which is the thing that I
need to sort of feel good.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I knew i'd screwed it ten times too tight. And
that was the cost of doing an enormous thing like this.
And I'm not saying everyone should go do that. I'm saying,
you know, within reason, a moving body for an hour,
moviebody for twenty minutes, that's the point. But that that
that is a commitment to your word and doing what
you say you're going to do.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, it's very different to heading out the door for
twenty thirty forty minutes a day.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, yeah, that is that is a is extreme, very extreme,
and very publicly showing the world that we are far
more capable than we think.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
If you're willing to go to that place.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah cool?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Am I right in saying that you've had just five
weeks just recently, five weeks off exercise?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Is that more more about three months? Yeah? Three months?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah, just under three months. So I did that twenty
four hour ride and that's been it since now.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So how it's given all you're saying around how important
it is to move your body and stuff, how was that?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Very tough, And that's why I can actually say with
complete confidence that if you don't move your body, your
decision making, your inability to understand scenarios, it's all greatly
inhibited by the fact you haven't.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Cleared your head through physical movement.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
So I actually chose to not because I'm trying to
get as fast as I can in the marathon, and
in doing so, you can't have upper body weights.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I've been training uppers and because.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Idam broke limb, you haven't been able to round a
bike or anything, and so I was like, why don't
you just sit with it? There will never be a
time in your life where you have to just sit
in it. And that was another challenge, was like all right,
let's let's lean in, let's do nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, WHOA did you?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Did you replace it with anything?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, like a lot of writing, a lot of reading,
a lot of nothing, like actually doing nothing, which is
insane for me. Like, it was special and I'm forever
grateful of had it because I'll be able to lean
on that when I'm back running and go, you know what,
you've been through, this, you've been through that, it's all.
It all makes you and creates a more rounded athlete.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Did you have moments where you were like, like walking
to the shops and you're like, I'm just going to
punch out a quick power walk or something to get
that just I was on crutches.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
The majority of Yeah, may I cried. I cried a lot.
Crying is important, very powerful, and stopping is important. Stopping
about rest before.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
But I'll leave that for whichever' psyche is lucky enough
to get their hooks in you.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'd love to read your journal. I reckon, I don't
think we can.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Get that between me and myself and I Hey, you
to donate or sign ups to Needs Uncomfortable Challenge.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Here to Need's Uncomfortable Challenge dot com and find out
more about Marta Tenths four oh one Club at Marten
dot com dot Uneddie. Always good to see, Thanks for
coming in, Thanks for sharing so much, giving so much.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
As always, thank you gentlemen. Always a pleasure to be here.
Great to see you made. Thanks guys,
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