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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My Heart podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free I hard.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is pretty hard to conceive.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Jess and Miriam rode eight thousand miles across the Pacific Ocean.
It's almost fifteen It seems like ten hours and one
hundred and sixty five days, starting in Peru and finishing
in cans.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And they join us right now, safe and sound on
willing would.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
He Hey, guys, Hello, thanks for having us on.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Of course, now this is probably a pretty immature question.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
There's so many questions we could ask you, but I
do want to ask you first and foremost, toilet while
you're on the boat, what was that mirror?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Bucket?
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Bucket and chuck it?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
But bucket, bucket and chuck it.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So what I was, what I was envisioning, is the
thing you used to do when you were like a
kid and you just kind of like dangle half your
body over the boat and let it go.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
But it wasn't that.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
No, you'd end up getting just like a the wed
the day kind of situation.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Very good, okay, cool, And a question there for I
guess a question for how close you guys are shared
bucket or different bucket.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
We had the same bucket, but we'd always clean it.
So yeah, actually the most comfortable seat on the boats.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Guys, what what does the day look like? Because I
was I was talking one of the producers before. I
was like, are they are you anchoring at night? Like,
because you're in the middle of the Pacific, Like.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
How are you? How are you? How are you doing this?
Like what what does the day look like? Is one
of you always rowing? I mean runs through.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
We're rowing day and night. We've got to keep the
boat moving as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
No anchoring, no, no, not there's.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
A sea anchoror parachute anchor in case the window was
in the wrong direction or something like that. But in
the beginning, our routine was two two hours off with
we do an extra voluntary hour during the day whenever
we felt we had the energy, and then towards the
and we were basically just rowing all day, and then
from six pm to ten am we'd do the two
hours on two hours off.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
And those off bits we could sleep.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
But you never get the four two hours off because
by the time you got into the cabin and you
maybe had a bit of a wash or sorted out
some admin or ran home. So we probably averaged about
four to six hours sleep for the crossing.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh sorry when you say you were going down there
and doing emails.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
No, well we are cleaning yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah sorry, I thought you were like, well, better pay
the bills.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Returns Like.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, why, why? Why?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I keep going back to that, Why why are you
doing this? This is insane?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Yeah, I mean we So we both met when we
were rowing across the Atlantic Ocean in twenty twenty two.
So there's a there's a race called the Telescooske Atlantic Challenge.
It's been renamed for the world's toughest row and it's
a three thousand miles rowing race from lagomer in the
Canary Islands to Antigua in the Caribbean and growing solo.
And I was wearing as a team of four, and
(03:12):
we were in Antigua celebrating, and pretty much a week after,
you know, we've both been on land together, we decided
let's try and top this. We absolutely loved our time
out there, and so decided let's try and take on
the biggest ocean.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Wow, bloody hell.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And what was the hardest thing about being on the
bike was what was the bit was most difficult.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I think probably the sleep deprivation we did pass There
was some days you'd have good days and bad days,
and then some days where you're just passing out on
the oars like just to hit you back. You'll be fine,
You'll be rowing and you can sleep rope for a
little bit and then you'll just sort of go and
then I mean one day I opened the cabin door
and jessman I just fell asleep eating my snacks and
(03:53):
she was like, just cut.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Arown and also like you try and eat snacks to
keep you awake, And I was like, how earth has
this happened?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
This is wild?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
So what about like injuries?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Like I occasionally will jump on the rhine massie at
the gym and banging out a kilometer. Sometimes I get
blisters on my hands, so I try to actually steer
clear of it.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
How are the hands?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Hands were good?
Speaker 7 (04:17):
To be honest, I mean we did so much rowing
on the on the rowing machine prior and also did
a lot of training in our boat that our hands
are pretty tough before starting, so we didn't really suffer
from blisters.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Our hands up.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Yeah, just I've turned into our feet almost feet are
really solid. I'm not walking anywhere and hants an't really
really tough, need.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
To go to get some manicures.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
So what was so physically then?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What was the hardest part about rowing just so much
and rowing across the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
It's a tricky one. It's very mental.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Our boat is like, because it's such a big boat
for this trip and to get everything in it. It
can be rowed by up to four people, so it's
a really heavy boat. So it was actually really hard
when there was no wind and no waves and everybody
thinks you want calm weather, but it doesn't help you
go forward at all.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
And as we got.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Closer to this side, the ozon layer was getting thinner,
so the heat went on those calm days when there
was no wind to just cool you down.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
It's pretty pretty Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
This food part of it, so you you five thousand
calories a day?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Is that age?
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Yeah, so we were trying to consume that many, but
we weren't really ever able to because we just really
with didrated food.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It's just so, was there a support boat at any stage?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Is there a boat.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Following you along here or anything like that?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You took all your food for six months and you've
both got to eat five thousand calories a day.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wow, what is that just powdered milk?
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Well, it's actually meals like curries and like pasta, bolonnaise
and you know anything you can think of really, and
you just add water and there's no texture to it whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
It's just mush taking all your water on there.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
How does that work?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Well, we have a desalinator, a water mate o the seawater,
but we had a litle problems with that.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
So that was god as well.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
You never had one of those Big Rills moments on
the boat.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Do you know who Big Grills is and what he's famous?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, you never had a moment like that with the bucket. Yes,
I'm asking you if you ever drank your own urine
in desperation?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Oh no, that point.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
That's good. Good to confirm, good to confirm.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
So let's talk about first meal when you get back
on land. And then what's the first meal?
Speaker 7 (06:38):
So we had we had pizzas and beer when we yeah,
as our first we already put our orders in for
pizzas a week before we arrived.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
That's so good.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, and that is that thing you're missing. Those just
like good quality food. Is that what you're missing?
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Yeah, I mean we would spend most of our day
talking about food. So in the beginning we were really
craving steak, yeah, and then as we got across it
was just pizza. But we would just get so obsessed
with food. We would just ask each other these stupid
questions all day, like what's your favorite pasta shape?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
And what's your favorite pudding?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
And oh god, and then we start messaging around all
our support team to find out.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Like what their favorite cake was.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Answers were just annoying everybody with all these stupid food questions,
and he was entertained for hours.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It sounds like a riot.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
And guys, I also heard before you got on them
before we go into the pizza NBA. So you've been
rowing for six months on the Pacific, So what were
the first steps on land?
Speaker 7 (07:31):
Like quite webbly and yeah, we could not believe how
many people were at the finish. Our story has sort
of been shared really wide by Lost in Here, one
of our partners, and they've really spread the message out
and we had so many people at the finish line.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
It was just it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Cool, awesome. What about sleep? Was sleep? Weird? Back in
a bed.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Yeah, so we we both have been up to like
three in the morning the last couple of nights because
we've been so wide and just wide awake, maybe because
we're not exhausting ourselves all day. So bit's hard. Now
it's I think it's going to catch up on us
and we're crash too. But yeah, got a lot of adrenaline,
still quite wired from it all and the finished.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Do you have a wake up thinking you're still on
the boat?
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Not yet, Yeah, I think that'll come. We did just
have some like really random boat dreams. I used to
get really disorientated and I would be asleep and I
would dream about something that was happening on the boat.
So when I woke up, I would think it was
time to go back to sleep again and then realize
I'd have to get up and do another two hours.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Rowing, Oh I can't, I just I just I don't
get this, guys, I don't get it at all. I'm
impressed iled. So can I ask was there ever a
momentere you feed for your lives where you were like,
you know, this is God enough now, like this is
this is not is not the fun that we thought
it would be.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
We definitely didn't have any moments where we were scared,
but we had a lot of moments where we were
really frustrated just because of the amount of things that
went wrong. Our rudder broke and we had to restart.
We had parishes throughout, so we're pretty much dead ship.
We also the water maker pipes burst nine times, and
then the bird I didn't see water maker filter also
fell off, and Memes repaired that with a pair of knickers.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
A lot of problem solving throughout were we argued.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Did you argue at any point?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
No, no, no, there's nothing to argue about.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
We were just not when you're talking about your favorite cake,
I suppose I could find about that.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I don't find about that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
The only chat.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Well, guys, it's seriously impressive. Congratulations for both of us.
Is just one of the best things that I've ever heard.
I just can't believe you did it.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
You're done with rowing there? Or what's next?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Oh no, we'd love to do it again. To be fair, I.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Didn't get out more go and do something fun in
can's something fun? Go?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
No, I don't know. Just stay at the beach, just chill,
just for a second.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
It can't be good Yeah, were very good at chilling out.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I'm getting that sense. All the guys have been loving
to meet you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Jess and Miriam free go off rowing across the Pacific Ocean.
That is just an extraordinary sentence from Peru to Cans
in five point four months, on hundred and sixty five days. Guys,
congratulations again, thanks so much joining us with them, Wary
My Heart podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free I hard.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is pretty hard to conceive.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Jess and Miriam rode eight thousand miles across the Pacific Ocean.
It's almost fifteen It seems like ten hours and one
hundred and sixty five days, starting in Peru and finishing
in cans.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And they join us right now, safe and sound on
willing would.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
He Hey, guys, Hello, thanks for having us on.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Of course, now this is probably a pretty immature question.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
There's so many questions we could ask you, but I
do want to ask you first and foremost, toilet while
you're on the boat, what was that mirror?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Bucket?
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Bucket and chuck it?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
But bucket, bucket and chuck it.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So what I was, what I was envisioning, is the
thing you used to do when you were like a
kid and you just kind of like dangle half your
body over the boat and let it go.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
But it wasn't that.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
No, you'd end up getting just like a the wed
the day kind of situation.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Very good, okay, cool, And a question there for I
guess a question for how close you guys are shared
bucket or different bucket.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
We had the same bucket, but we'd always clean it.
So yeah, actually the most comfortable seat on the boats.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Guys, what what does the day look like? Because I
was I was talking one of the producers before. I
was like, are they are you anchoring at night? Like,
because you're in the middle of the Pacific, Like.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
How are you? How are you? How are you doing this?
Like what what does the day look like? Is one
of you always rowing? I mean runs through.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
We're rowing day and night. We've got to keep the
boat moving as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
No anchoring, no, no, not there's.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
A sea anchoror parachute anchor in case the window was
in the wrong direction or something like that. But in
the beginning, our routine was two two hours off with
we do an extra voluntary hour during the day whenever
we felt we had the energy, and then towards the
and we were basically just rowing all day, and then
from six pm to ten am we'd do the two
hours on two hours off.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
And those off bits we could sleep.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
But you never get the four two hours off because
by the time you got into the cabin and you
maybe had a bit of a wash or sorted out
some admin or ran home. So we probably averaged about
four to six hours sleep for the crossing.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh sorry when you say you were going down there
and doing emails.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
No, well we are cleaning yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah sorry, I thought you were like, well, better pay
the bills.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Returns Like.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, why, why? Why?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I keep going back to that, Why why are you
doing this? This is insane?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
Yeah, I mean we So we both met when we
were rowing across the Atlantic Ocean in twenty twenty two.
So there's a there's a race called the Telescooske Atlantic Challenge.
It's been renamed for the world's toughest row and it's
a three thousand miles rowing race from lagomer in the
Canary Islands to Antigua in the Caribbean and growing solo.
And I was wearing as a team of four, and
(03:12):
we were in Antigua celebrating, and pretty much a week after,
you know, we've both been on land together, we decided
let's try and top this. We absolutely loved our time
out there, and so decided let's try and take on
the biggest ocean.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Wow, bloody hell.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And what was the hardest thing about being on the
bike was what was the bit was most difficult.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I think probably the sleep deprivation we did pass There
was some days you'd have good days and bad days,
and then some days where you're just passing out on
the oars like just to hit you back. You'll be fine,
You'll be rowing and you can sleep rope for a
little bit and then you'll just sort of go and
then I mean one day I opened the cabin door
and jessman I just fell asleep eating my snacks and
(03:53):
she was like, just cut.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Arown and also like you try and eat snacks to
keep you awake, And I was like, how earth has
this happened?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
This is wild?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
So what about like injuries?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Like I occasionally will jump on the rhine massie at
the gym and banging out a kilometer. Sometimes I get
blisters on my hands, so I try to actually steer
clear of it.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
How are the hands?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Hands were good?
Speaker 7 (04:17):
To be honest, I mean we did so much rowing
on the on the rowing machine prior and also did
a lot of training in our boat that our hands
are pretty tough before starting, so we didn't really suffer
from blisters.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Our hands up.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Yeah, just I've turned into our feet almost feet are
really solid. I'm not walking anywhere and hants an't really
really tough, need.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
To go to get some manicures.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
So what was so physically then?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
What was the hardest part about rowing just so much
and rowing across the Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
It's a tricky one. It's very mental.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Our boat is like, because it's such a big boat
for this trip and to get everything in it. It
can be rowed by up to four people, so it's
a really heavy boat. So it was actually really hard
when there was no wind and no waves and everybody
thinks you want calm weather, but it doesn't help you
go forward at all.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
And as we got.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Closer to this side, the ozon layer was getting thinner,
so the heat went on those calm days when there
was no wind to just cool you down.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
It's pretty pretty Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
This food part of it, so you you five thousand
calories a day?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Is that age?
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Yeah, so we were trying to consume that many, but
we weren't really ever able to because we just really
with didrated food.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It's just so, was there a support boat at any stage?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Is there a boat.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Following you along here or anything like that?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You took all your food for six months and you've
both got to eat five thousand calories a day.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wow, what is that just powdered milk?
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Well, it's actually meals like curries and like pasta, bolonnaise
and you know anything you can think of really, and
you just add water and there's no texture to it whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
It's just mush taking all your water on there.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
How does that work?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Well, we have a desalinator, a water mate o the seawater,
but we had a litle problems with that.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
So that was god as well.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
You never had one of those Big Rills moments on
the boat.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Do you know who Big Grills is and what he's famous?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, you never had a moment like that with the bucket. Yes,
I'm asking you if you ever drank your own urine
in desperation?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Oh no, that point.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
That's good. Good to confirm, good to confirm.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
So let's talk about first meal when you get back
on land. And then what's the first meal?
Speaker 7 (06:38):
So we had we had pizzas and beer when we yeah,
as our first we already put our orders in for
pizzas a week before we arrived.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
That's so good.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, and that is that thing you're missing. Those just
like good quality food. Is that what you're missing?
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Yeah, I mean we would spend most of our day
talking about food. So in the beginning we were really
craving steak, yeah, and then as we got across it
was just pizza. But we would just get so obsessed
with food. We would just ask each other these stupid
questions all day, like what's your favorite pasta shape?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
And what's your favorite pudding?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
And oh god, and then we start messaging around all
our support team to find out.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Like what their favorite cake was.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Answers were just annoying everybody with all these stupid food questions,
and he was entertained for hours.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It sounds like a riot.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
And guys, I also heard before you got on them
before we go into the pizza NBA. So you've been
rowing for six months on the Pacific, So what were
the first steps on land?
Speaker 7 (07:31):
Like quite webbly and yeah, we could not believe how
many people were at the finish. Our story has sort
of been shared really wide by Lost in Here, one
of our partners, and they've really spread the message out
and we had so many people at the finish line.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
It was just it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Cool, awesome. What about sleep? Was sleep? Weird? Back in
a bed.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Yeah, so we we both have been up to like
three in the morning the last couple of nights because
we've been so wide and just wide awake, maybe because
we're not exhausting ourselves all day. So bit's hard. Now
it's I think it's going to catch up on us
and we're crash too. But yeah, got a lot of adrenaline,
still quite wired from it all and the finished.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Do you have a wake up thinking you're still on
the boat?
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Not yet, Yeah, I think that'll come. We did just
have some like really random boat dreams. I used to
get really disorientated and I would be asleep and I
would dream about something that was happening on the boat.
So when I woke up, I would think it was
time to go back to sleep again and then realize
I'd have to get up and do another two hours.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Rowing, Oh I can't, I just I just I don't
get this, guys, I don't get it at all. I'm
impressed iled. So can I ask was there ever a
momentere you feed for your lives where you were like,
you know, this is God enough now, like this is
this is not is not the fun that we thought
it would be.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
We definitely didn't have any moments where we were scared,
but we had a lot of moments where we were
really frustrated just because of the amount of things that
went wrong. Our rudder broke and we had to restart.
We had parishes throughout, so we're pretty much dead ship.
We also the water maker pipes burst nine times, and
then the bird I didn't see water maker filter also
fell off, and Memes repaired that with a pair of knickers.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
A lot of problem solving throughout were we argued.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Did you argue at any point?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
No, no, no, there's nothing to argue about.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
We were just not when you're talking about your favorite cake,
I suppose I could find about that.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I don't find about that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
The only chat.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Well, guys, it's seriously impressive. Congratulations for both of us.
Is just one of the best things that I've ever heard.
I just can't believe you did it.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
You're done with rowing there? Or what's next?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Oh no, we'd love to do it again. To be fair, I.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Didn't get out more go and do something fun in
can's something fun? Go?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
No, I don't know. Just stay at the beach, just chill,
just for a second.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
It can't be good Yeah, were very good at chilling out.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I'm getting that sense. All the guys have been loving
to meet you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Jess and Miriam free go off rowing across the Pacific Ocean.
That is just an extraordinary sentence from Peru to Cans
in five point four months, on hundred and sixty five days. Guys,
congratulations again, thanks so much joining us with them, Wary
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