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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My Heart podcasts, hear More Kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free Hard. So you've been pretty clear
with your with your dislike, probably hate, it's not too
strong of a word, your.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hate of Taylor Swift's new album.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's not hate, well, it's it's what's strong dislike, very
very strong dislike. And I don't think you can be
doing that if you haven't actually listened to the album.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Listen to this love for show Girl.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Bouquet.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
You do, thank you for the lovely thank you for
the lovely bouquet. You're sweeter than a peach. I mean,
if Leonard Cohen was alive, he'd be like, I'm into it.
I had written that, and.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I think you're You're well within your right to make
these kind of comments, but only if you listen to
the whole album, because quite frankly will I mean, you're
on air at the moment yesterday we had people calling
up trying to convince you that Taylor's wedding is going
to be and I mean make.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You are very very brutal.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You're one of the probably few that are not like.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
She just didn't get there, did she. Let's go to
Amy make Taylor stwist wedding interesting for me?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Amy, what do you mean it's Taylor Swift? It's a
queen of come.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
And that's gone and just what do you mean it's
Taylor Swift? Okay, so we've actually got Amy back on
the show.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Amy, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hey? Guys?
Speaker 6 (01:34):
I'm good.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Sorry I was a bit savage on the fader there.
That was just you know, part of the bit, but.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
I do I'll give you this time.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
You didn't I didn't get your bit out. I'm sorry
about that.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, moving on, I think we're going to break bread
right now. Amy.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Do you think Will needs to listen to the album,
you know, just one listen, sit through the entire thing
to then make appropriate comments.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Well, I think what you need to do is you're
saying about how it doesn't speak to our everyday lives
and things that we can't relate to. But I think
that you need to look past the actual melody of
the song. You need to look past the actual of
it and read the actual lyrics as if it's the
story from beginning to end. So Taylor's in this new
(02:14):
album is literally writing a story. So she's going through
through fate of a felure, she's talking about your heart
being saved from the same fate of a feeliure, and
in oprah light she's talking about you can't rely on
other people's happiness. You have to make your own.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And for a great message, you can do that you can't.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Again. I think they were great points, and I as
show you once just off what Amy was saying that.
I think that's a good idea.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
That was awesome. No, sorry, let's go back to Amy
very quickly. Sorry, Ames are there?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Sorry? Ames? Sorry? Sorry?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Amy? I heard you. I heard you.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I think, Amy, do you think you should whilst looking
at the lyrics, I think if you read.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
I'll read the lyrics, I'll read the list the story
will Amy. I do think it's interesting though. The first
thing you said was don't listen to the melody like
it's a record.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, it is. You listen to them, it's it's music.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
I think that you're focusing purely on the rhythm of
it though you're saying that it might all be catchy
to you, but it's catchy to a lot of other people.
If you're looking at it more from a story point
of view, you might find that.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Okay. So on a whole as a piece of art.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
You think that the music transcends the boiled chicken and rice,
that it sounds like when you first hear one.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
All right, all right, all right, you go, okay to
a movie?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Will how good's that's got? Lauren?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Here?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Lauren like that?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
There is such a cop out. It's like her literally going, look,
I know it's ship, but if you listen to the
whole thing in Gone Dext do you know what I mean? Lauren?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Do you agree with what amy're saying?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Is maybe the I'm not very good with music, but
is the melody is a bit off in this new album.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You've listened to it a number of times.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I have listened to it a number of times. You've
just got to listen to it in the car, full volume,
ideally at a red light while dancing. That's my biggest
piece of it light for you.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, that's great advice. That's great advice.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You're having a bit of fun. You're having a bit
of fun.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Absolute you only only want to pick is that you've
essentially said that once he becomes successful, you're not allowed
to be good at anything anymore.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
That's very, very hard. What I would say, Lauren is
very very very hard to do. It's it's the it's
in music. They say it's the classic second album curse.
It's really hard for artists once they find success to
make something of substance after they've found the success, because
naturally the fame goes to their head and they lose
touch with who and what they are and what they're
(04:41):
actually writing about, and they end up just trying to
write something they think the public will like. Now, I
think Taylor, you know, let's face it, she's made some
good records in there.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Story Read was a great record, I.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Mean, reputation, and we can go through them.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Could we can go through all of them? We really could.
We just could, and you know, maybe we will once
the show finishes. Lauren. But but but.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I think it's not that serious.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
The point it's not. It's not a bop though. I
feel like I beat you on both sides there.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
So first of all, she's detached, but then if you
listen to it, it's not a pop.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
We can all agree it's not a pop. If anything, all.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I will give it is what Amy said before, which
is that, like you know, each song is ship, but
if you listen to it on the whole maybe there's
a story which I'm happy to do.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Item to listen to open light on repeat three times.
I promise you it'll get in your ears and you'll
love it and you will be calling you back saying
it's a bob Lauren.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Is there anything he has to wear or anything during
the listening?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Look? I think if you've got a you've got a
sequin on that's going to help.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Something that's doing a chemmy, you can sort that. And
do you know it's some comfortable shoes shoes sequence? Do
you think?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I do love you, Lauran, thanks for I love your passion, Lauren.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I mean that if anything that is what I you know,
is infectious about this is the fact that people do. Look,
it's great to see people loving caring so much about music.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Is swift, is piling in here.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
To have there to have their say about their queen
and praise.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Give it a go before you before you poopa. You
got to give it an actual proper go.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well did you have a listening party, Lauren? How did
you do it?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Look? I was in New Zealand and I made my
friends that went over there for the weekend, made my
friends go to the movie launch with me, so that
I didn't mess out because it was only across a
couple of days. So that's how dedicated I am. As
even traveling internationally, I made room to go to the
movie Help You.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
How do you feel about the fact that she might
have been slightly.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Stained by the fact that she's just a money making machine?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh, look to be fair, I went to the ear
a Staur and it wasn't actually for me. I loved
her music. She can do no wrong, but I think
of outgrown her as a performer. I don't lean into
you know, when she stands here for three minutes and
or at the fact that everyone's cleffing. I'm like, you
do it every night, So I guess, yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
How much of a mega maniac do you have to
be to stand in there and get that much?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Still love the music, and that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
By Lauren, I love it. You're a purist. I appreciate
the honesty.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Can you can you join us same time tomorrow Lauren
on the show, Will's gonna listen to the album I'm
gonna say tomorrow tomorrow in a dark room and then
you join us tomorrow Lauren, and we can get Will's thoughts.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
I don't make this any more statistic than it will
need to be. I will struggle to come back on air.
I'm warning you.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I just want you to take block out your other
senses and enjoy what I'll.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Lauren, I'll give it a crack tomorrow. Full review Taylor
Swift album Can I Go?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Track by track? Bar bye bar? Can I pay samples
back to you? What? Like in my review?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
They're not doing the whole show with your review. I
was just expecting a sentence or something tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
It might just be the poo emoji.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Ah
My Heart podcasts, hear More Kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the Free Hard. So you've been pretty clear
with your with your dislike, probably hate, it's not too
strong of a word, your.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hate of Taylor Swift's new album.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's not hate, well, it's it's what's strong dislike, very
very strong dislike. And I don't think you can be
doing that if you haven't actually listened to the album.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Listen to this love for show Girl.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Bouquet.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
You do, thank you for the lovely thank you for
the lovely bouquet. You're sweeter than a peach. I mean,
if Leonard Cohen was alive, he'd be like, I'm into it.
I had written that, and.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I think you're You're well within your right to make
these kind of comments, but only if you listen to
the whole album, because quite frankly will I mean, you're
on air at the moment yesterday we had people calling
up trying to convince you that Taylor's wedding is going
to be and I mean make.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You are very very brutal.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You're one of the probably few that are not like.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
She just didn't get there, did she. Let's go to
Amy make Taylor stwist wedding interesting for me?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Amy, what do you mean it's Taylor Swift? It's a
queen of come.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
And that's gone and just what do you mean it's
Taylor Swift? Okay, so we've actually got Amy back on
the show.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Amy, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hey? Guys?
Speaker 6 (01:34):
I'm good.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Sorry I was a bit savage on the fader there.
That was just you know, part of the bit, but.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
I do I'll give you this time.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
You didn't I didn't get your bit out. I'm sorry
about that.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, moving on, I think we're going to break bread
right now. Amy.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Do you think Will needs to listen to the album,
you know, just one listen, sit through the entire thing
to then make appropriate comments.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Well, I think what you need to do is you're
saying about how it doesn't speak to our everyday lives
and things that we can't relate to. But I think
that you need to look past the actual melody of
the song. You need to look past the actual of
it and read the actual lyrics as if it's the
story from beginning to end. So Taylor's in this new
(02:14):
album is literally writing a story. So she's going through
through fate of a felure, she's talking about your heart
being saved from the same fate of a feeliure, and
in oprah light she's talking about you can't rely on
other people's happiness. You have to make your own.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And for a great message, you can do that you can't.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Again. I think they were great points, and I as
show you once just off what Amy was saying that.
I think that's a good idea.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
That was awesome. No, sorry, let's go back to Amy
very quickly. Sorry, Ames are there?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Sorry? Ames? Sorry? Sorry?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Amy? I heard you. I heard you.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I think, Amy, do you think you should whilst looking
at the lyrics, I think if you read.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
I'll read the lyrics, I'll read the list the story
will Amy. I do think it's interesting though. The first
thing you said was don't listen to the melody like
it's a record.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, it is. You listen to them, it's it's music.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
I think that you're focusing purely on the rhythm of
it though you're saying that it might all be catchy
to you, but it's catchy to a lot of other people.
If you're looking at it more from a story point
of view, you might find that.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Okay. So on a whole as a piece of art.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
You think that the music transcends the boiled chicken and rice,
that it sounds like when you first hear one.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
All right, all right, all right, you go, okay to
a movie?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Will how good's that's got? Lauren?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Here?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Lauren like that?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
There is such a cop out. It's like her literally going, look,
I know it's ship, but if you listen to the
whole thing in Gone Dext do you know what I mean? Lauren?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Do you agree with what amy're saying?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Is maybe the I'm not very good with music, but
is the melody is a bit off in this new album.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You've listened to it a number of times.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I have listened to it a number of times. You've
just got to listen to it in the car, full volume,
ideally at a red light while dancing. That's my biggest
piece of it light for you.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, that's great advice. That's great advice.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You're having a bit of fun. You're having a bit
of fun.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Absolute you only only want to pick is that you've
essentially said that once he becomes successful, you're not allowed
to be good at anything anymore.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
That's very, very hard. What I would say, Lauren is
very very very hard to do. It's it's the it's
in music. They say it's the classic second album curse.
It's really hard for artists once they find success to
make something of substance after they've found the success, because
naturally the fame goes to their head and they lose
touch with who and what they are and what they're
(04:41):
actually writing about, and they end up just trying to
write something they think the public will like. Now, I
think Taylor, you know, let's face it, she's made some
good records in there.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Story Read was a great record, I.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Mean, reputation, and we can go through them.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Could we can go through all of them? We really could.
We just could, and you know, maybe we will once
the show finishes. Lauren. But but but.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I think it's not that serious.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
The point it's not. It's not a bop though. I
feel like I beat you on both sides there.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
So first of all, she's detached, but then if you
listen to it, it's not a pop.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
We can all agree it's not a pop. If anything, all.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I will give it is what Amy said before, which
is that, like you know, each song is ship, but
if you listen to it on the whole maybe there's
a story which I'm happy to do.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Item to listen to open light on repeat three times.
I promise you it'll get in your ears and you'll
love it and you will be calling you back saying
it's a bob Lauren.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Is there anything he has to wear or anything during
the listening?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Look? I think if you've got a you've got a
sequin on that's going to help.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Something that's doing a chemmy, you can sort that. And
do you know it's some comfortable shoes shoes sequence? Do
you think?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I do love you, Lauran, thanks for I love your passion, Lauren.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I mean that if anything that is what I you know,
is infectious about this is the fact that people do. Look,
it's great to see people loving caring so much about music.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Is swift, is piling in here.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
To have there to have their say about their queen
and praise.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Give it a go before you before you poopa. You
got to give it an actual proper go.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well did you have a listening party, Lauren? How did
you do it?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Look? I was in New Zealand and I made my
friends that went over there for the weekend, made my
friends go to the movie launch with me, so that
I didn't mess out because it was only across a
couple of days. So that's how dedicated I am. As
even traveling internationally, I made room to go to the
movie Help You.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
How do you feel about the fact that she might
have been slightly.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Stained by the fact that she's just a money making machine?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh, look to be fair, I went to the ear
a Staur and it wasn't actually for me. I loved
her music. She can do no wrong, but I think
of outgrown her as a performer. I don't lean into
you know, when she stands here for three minutes and
or at the fact that everyone's cleffing. I'm like, you
do it every night, So I guess, yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
How much of a mega maniac do you have to
be to stand in there and get that much?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Still love the music, and that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
By Lauren, I love it. You're a purist. I appreciate
the honesty.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Can you can you join us same time tomorrow Lauren
on the show, Will's gonna listen to the album I'm
gonna say tomorrow tomorrow in a dark room and then
you join us tomorrow Lauren, and we can get Will's thoughts.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
I don't make this any more statistic than it will
need to be. I will struggle to come back on air.
I'm warning you.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I just want you to take block out your other
senses and enjoy what I'll.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Lauren, I'll give it a crack tomorrow. Full review Taylor
Swift album Can I Go?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Track by track? Bar bye bar? Can I pay samples
back to you? What? Like in my review?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
They're not doing the whole show with your review. I
was just expecting a sentence or something tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
It might just be the poo emoji.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Ah
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