July 17, 2025 • 38 mins
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- Gina Chick
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
The Will and Woody podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I think I'm a pretty nice guy. I just think
I'm I'm a likable person. So it's strange to me
that your almost three year old daughter hates me. Like
I'm not talking out of school here, Like this is
a genuine issue and she has proven it multiple times.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, that she hates me. I mean, if you've missed
any of it, have listened to this.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Bards, We have long suspected that my two year old
daughter hates you. Why have you suspected this repect was
vaguely confirmed on the show yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Hello Max, Well.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I got home last night. I asked her point blank,
what are your friend? Do you like?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Whitty?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's been tough?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, I mean, I'm I'm just going on with my
life like it. See, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I don't need this. I don't need to.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Love of everyone I come into contact with. What are
you talking about? I don't play that noise again, It's
actually harmful. So I do need this.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
So yesterday on the show, I kind of commenteered the
radio show and just said, can we call your daughter again,
just so I can you know, tell her how amazing
I am.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And it went terribly put me on speaker immediately.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Max?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
She's running, you say, she's running, Run.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
After her, run after.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Okay, so she's now running away from my presence over
the phone.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So I've now taken it upon my head.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It did get a bit pushed last time. I feel
she was distressed by the end of that.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, I get that. But if she just said the
nigg you do get it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
No. But what I'm trying to say is if she
just says I like you, then I'll back it off
a little bit. If she continues to put up this
wall of hate, then I am going to push harder
and harder. And part of pushing harder is the fact
that I can coming to your house in the morning now, which.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I'm sure was incredibly annoying for you and your family.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
But You've come in two mornings this week, and both
times I've been having a shower. Let yourself in. Yeah, yeah,
I was.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Playing with your dog for a while this morning.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
But more important that I knew that you were in
the house today is because I got out of the
shower and the first thing I heard was my dog's
name is Stevie. The only thing I heard was Stevie,
where's mommy or Daddy or Max? Good chab, it's a
good chat. Stevie had no idea anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I had hot cross buns though, because I was like
all kids like hot cross buns. I just want to
get some face to FaceTime with Mags and deliver the
hot cross buns. Now, my question to you is she
wasn't there no at that time? Have you delivered the merchandise?
Yes to her and explains to her in no uncertain
terms that would he paid for that with his own money?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Well, I don't think money is a concept that you know,
she can quite grock at this age, which is not
quite across which you should get across that it's important.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well, did you make it clear that what you spent
time going to get these and he's given them to
you as a gift. Yeah, ideas come out of his way.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Again, you're laboring it like you just need to chill
out a little bit, you know, like that nothing there's
nothing less attractive than desperation, and you you exuded at
the current moment.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, I'll wear her down.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I don't. It's two years old.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
But anyway, did you get the hot cross buns or not?
I'm sorry I did.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I gave you hot You're right, she loves the hot
Cross buns. But well, no, I think she was quite
gracious in how she responded, Actually, these hot coss buns,
they're from Woody Did.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
You say came to from Woody?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Bag?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I said, thanks to Would you like me to say thanks?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Tody?
Speaker 7 (04:07):
Do you like Woodie?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
What is going?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
She fully understood the fact that I gave because she
thanked me.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Can you thank me and then still say I'm not
friends with you?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
This I just flighted perfectly as.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Far as I couldn't be prouder of it. She's almost
like she knew it was a bit, and she was
gracious as well. She was polite, didn't forget her manners.
Said thank you, make sure you say thank you. But
I still like that guy. I felt a lot of
proud pride for my child over there last you know,
two and a half three years. I'm sure you never
swelled with more pride than I did. I'm sure I'm
sure you're loving.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I almost think that she knows it's a bit now.
I couldn't be prouder of her. It feels too real.
She's two and a half. She can't know it's a
bit what you said.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
She doesn't grow money, she doesn't grock bits.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Anyway, I just need to know from other people. Thirteen
one oh sixty five is our number? Yeah, does your
kid hate someone for like no reason?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Like? Is this actually a thing that young children just designed,
that they hate someone?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I think so because right now I feel very alone.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I feel very skill. You're the only the only
adult that's hated by a toddler, So they're out there.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Thirteen one oh sixty five does your kid just did
they just decide to hate someone.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
For no real reason? And then I guess the secondary
question is did they ever get through it?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You're fresh to the show. You should know that my
two and a half year old daughter has now categorically confirmed,
on four different occasions that she hates Woody Well hates
a strong word. She doesn't like you. She doesn't see
I actually wouldn't ask you if she hates anything, but
she doesn't see you as a friend, which arguably hurts.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
More it does. I think i'd prefer the hate.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It's weird to be more simple to hate, isn't it's
It's clearly a childish response. Total I don't want him
as my friend. Is that's calculated. She's thought about it absolutely,
despite the fact that.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I'm coming up to your house regularly now and I
will continue to do this and interrupt your beautiful warnings
and deliver gifts to your daughter until she says, I
am her friend?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Who are you doing that for the small.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Child inside of me? And that small child's inside of everyone.
We all know it's there. Sometimes you have to nurture them.
So I'm just wondering now, though thirteen one O six
five is our number, does your kid just hate someone
for no reason? Because right now it does feel like
I'm the only adult out there who just has the.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Not the hate of a child, but the lack of.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Love from a rain that is that because I just
thought kids liked everyone.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Remy loves everyone. It doesn't matter who you are.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
She's like, I trust.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You, You're in ye, So that's nice.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Let's go to Shannon here, despite me trying to drip
like awful things about you to her because I kind.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Of want mind.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Oh you've been feeding to throw around things like Will
is a cheap ass, Like I'll just mentioned that, but
it's not really sinking in yet.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Shannon.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Hello, mates, You've got a niece who has a dislike
of someone I do. I do.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
She's about six years old and at no stage of
her life she.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Ever liked me. So how young did it start? Shannon?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
From the get go?
Speaker 7 (07:24):
I think it's the bead.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I've got a bed and I don't know if it's
but wouldn't say hello to me and functions and give
me nothing?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And have you tried to push through that, Shannon? Because
I'm with your mate, I'm right there next to you.
Will's daughter does not like me? So what have you
done to try and win back the love of the
of your brivery?
Speaker 8 (07:45):
I love that I again.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
So that's that's what I'm trying to plain here, Shannon,
is that you need to ease up.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
But what if I just ignore her? Nothing's going to happen?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Right? Diagree? Disagree? Actually actually like like agrees. Shannon had
six years? Are you on speaking terms with your niece now?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Shannon? No, So she's six years old and she's like
never said what's what's the most she's said to you?
Speaker 9 (08:14):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Hello, that's it.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
That's all you get.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
You say often enough, her brother's right. Have you asked
her parents?
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Yeah, there's become a running joke in the family now, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It does get like that. It's definitely a running joke
in my householding with my familys col Shannon.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It's not funny at all to me.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I think he's hitting on something though. I do think
it's a good message to heat. The harder you push,
the more she's going to run away. But what does
that actually look like?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Practically like what I come over with the hot cross
buns and go No, it means not coming over.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Don't come over, Maddie. Is just a way of.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Maddie, Maddie, Maddie. This is your daughter irrationally hates someone.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Yes, she hates my brother in law, and so is.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
There Has there ever been a reason that you can
pin that to?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
And looks he scared her once, but from then on,
every time she sees him, she just screams, has a meltdown,
doesn't want to buy of him, just the whole work,
Oh my lord?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So and has he done anything to try and like
mend the bridge.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Every time we go over, he will? I try and
give her like a cardle, or I take her off
my sister, but then.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
She just loses it. How old is she? Did you say?
Madis okay?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So young?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
That's still that's when it does. That's when it started
with you as well. And then we learned this the
first time, Max said, I came into the studio. She
calls the studio the glassroom, and she said, wood, he
laughed at you in the glassroom. So ultimately she's protecting me.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So she just remembered one moment from our radio show
where obviously you were the butt of the joug.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And since that day she has hated She's black.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Marn't you forgiveness? Mate? I think so you are you
just thinking about that in reverse? Maybe you need to
be doing great things for me in front of her
or yeah, I think that's actually it. Now I hate
that you It flipped that. So I need is where
we're at all of a sudden. If I save your life,
I just start with a nice bottle of wine. Jamie's
(10:12):
called on by buying me a drink.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Jamie, Jamie, are you another one who was hated by
a child for no reason? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (10:23):
So my cousin she had two daughters, and every time
I'd walk in the room.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
They just would squill and yell and scream.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
I put it down to the fact that I had dreadlock.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That's interesting.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
The worst part was their father had dreadlocks. So maybe
it wasn't the dreadlock.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I don't think it's the dreadlocks. Jamie. Have you managed to?
Have you managed to push through? Have you? Have you done?
Speaker 8 (10:48):
They're older now they like me.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Now, how did you do it?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Jamie? Teach me?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
How did I do it?
Speaker 8 (10:52):
I just stayed away.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
It's gone. So you've got two options here. Would either
stay away or you buy me dinner at least three
nights a week.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I think I prefer to stay away.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I would. So we are talking about you trying to
buy my two year old's love.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Sorry, that makes it sound awful. I'm just trying to.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Do exactly what you're trying to do. You're trying to
buy her love.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
No I'm not.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
No, I'm not just trying to do nice things for
her which do cost me money to make her like me.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
She hates you. She hates you. She made it quite
clear over the last couple of weeks. Yes, you can
follow this on our socials Instagram TikTok if you'd like
to a particularly funny video of her with her with
her underwear on her head, saying she hates you most recently,
which I quite enjoyed. That's goodyear, she's talking you. Yes,
she holds all the cards. I said to her a
couple of days ago, just because we do want to
(11:48):
move this on seminar. A bit over it, as I
said you before the daycare, A bit sick if you're
hanging around at the front, and I think she's entited
to carry on with her life. She doesn't deserve a
stalker at her age.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
So give me rocking up in the morning and dropping
getting I totally get it. So I said to her, Maxie,
what can what you do to win your affections back?
I played the audio before I played for you again.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
This is what she did count for me. You would
be happy if he makes a cake for you.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, Now, baking's not necessarily my bag in general.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Famously, at a sharehouse, served a souf fry, which was
a you put some sushi, you put some sushi and
some nacho's in the oven and mix them together. Yeah, yeah,
sou fry, sushi and a stirf fry. Yeah, yeah, well
a stir fried nacha was delicious dish. I found out
later when I went to bed. Everyone threw it out anyway,
(12:37):
and I was never allowed to cook again. But I
just I need some more direction on what cake she wants,
because right now it's just too broad. Like you know,
you don't just have cake written on a menu, do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So I just think if it's okay with you, because
I do appreciate that I am starting to intrude on
your family. WHI give her a quick tinkle now, yeah,
so I've checked with sim we can call her great, okay,
it quick.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You didn't talk. Well, First of all, she knows that
you're with me because she knows that I'm at work,
So I won't talk. Sam told me that I don't
think you'll need to talk. Apparently she's quite about to
find she's not a Jedi. She can't sense that I'm here.
I won't talk. All right, Well, say, I think she's
pretty averse to you, but all right, here we go. Hi. Hello,
(13:28):
how are we going there?
Speaker 6 (13:30):
You're good?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (13:33):
The phone?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Don member brother? Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Hi Maxie. She knows, she knows he's here. Doesn't she
she knows that what he's here? Don't on me? I
said nothing, send me. You might have to ask you
a question. If wood he makes her a cake, you're on?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
What? What's what sort of cake does she want?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You know?
Speaker 6 (14:05):
When you like crawl on your elbows forward were calling
to agree?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
She's army, crowling away escape?
Speaker 9 (14:18):
What makes you?
Speaker 10 (14:19):
What cake?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Do you want?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Chocolate? Okay?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Would you like white chocolate or milk chocolate?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
White chocolate? You don't even know what? And what do
you want on the cake? Makes you? Do you want
the Little Mermaid? Do you want Santa Claus? Do you
want the Easter Bunny? What do you want? She's drunk
with power, she's laughing at me. Okay, going out like
(14:54):
a Bond villain eupathetic adults. I'm going You're right where
I want you? And she does? She has does okay,
white white chocolate cake. I think that's all we're going
to get out of there?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Is that hard?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Is that hard to do it? Mate? Can I suggest something?
Speaker 11 (15:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
By it? Oh? I s you have no idea?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I was going to say the Australian bear grills, but
I feel like that under sells a Jena chick is
on willing Woody. Hello, Gena, Hi, it's so good to
be here.
Speaker 10 (15:30):
I love you guys so much.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Oh, we love you.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
We were just saying before we went live there.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Last time we spoke to you, you were kayaking in
the middle of Antarctica.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You've just informed us you are in Alice Springs.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
What are you doing in Alice Springs.
Speaker 10 (15:42):
I've been part of the Northern Territory Writers Festival on
DA Country and yeah, it's been absolutely magic. I also
did get to climb up a hill behind the venue
and you know, watch the sunset last night over the
mountains in the desert and it was bloody beautiful.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I think for most people in their rider it's things
like snacks.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Maybe a TV is your writer, just like there needs
to be a mountain in the vicinity that I can climb.
Speaker 10 (16:09):
Much, or some space where I can get outside and
actually just lie in the dirt. I'm not joking, or
a fire that I can you know, be a part of,
so that my hair actually smells like fire smoke instead
of you know, boring clean shampoo and conditioner.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, we were just joking about this off mic that
that you've got this brand that basically just allows you
to do whatever you want now because everyone just expects
that of you. You get to go barefoot everywhere. Yeah,
I get to go.
Speaker 10 (16:35):
Barefoot except on planes because you miss planes.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
They won't let you on. Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I had that issue with my daughter. Actually, I couldn't
believe it. They wanted the shoes on, shared the shoes of.
It was a big tantrum. But enough about that.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Hey, Gena, you're at the Writer's Festival and I don't
a brand new book. We are the Stars, so congratulations.
I know this is me talking to you about another celebrity,
but what do you I just found out that you
were best friends with Hugh Jackman. That's wild.
Speaker 10 (17:01):
Yeah, well apparently that's wild to me.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
It's just Hubie, it's Hubi.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Because because you became mates actually before either of you
became famous.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Gina.
Speaker 10 (17:11):
Yeah, yeah, like thirty seven years ago. So he's just
my mate, you know, he's just my mate.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
So I was listening he said that he met you.
I've got a bit of audio for it. I think
this is one of your book wards, Gina. I met Gigi.
Speaker 10 (17:25):
I met on Furst Day at university when I was
nineteen years old and we became best friends and.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Salat to this date. So I mean like obviously our
preconceptions of that interaction is that he's wearing the wolverine
outfit and you rock up, rolling dirt and bare feet,
of course, but you're nineteen, So how did that transpire?
If you don't mind hearing it was.
Speaker 10 (17:47):
Just Uni first day at Uni, you know, it's like
it's pretty boring. You know, everyone that you see on
Telly or is a celebrity, like they have an actual life,
and Gibby and I are just part of each other's
lives in the boring backstage way.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Love that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So if the two of you are just on a
boring camping trip, so you've got Wolverine for one, and
then you've got you survival expert. If there's a bear
that's approaching the camp side, question, who are you sending out?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Is it you or is it Hubie? I don't think
I have.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
An answer for that question. Maybe you know what I think,
maybe we joined forces.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
You know, Yeah, nice howers combined.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Sounds like you're protecting human It sounds like, hey, Gina,
you obviously beautifully authentic, And I mean like that's kind
of why I think Australia has fallen in love with you,
just you know, to watch you when you were doing
alone in Australia.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
You know, you get this very raw version of someone
you have to beat yourself here, as you said, you're
there for you know, sixty seven days in the wilderness
by yourself. You have a camera on you the whole time.
But I love that that's part of who you are.
And I know I saw that you speaking on a
bite with Alice on the ABC recently. You were saying
that you were like surprised that you are really one
of the few women who is your age who is
(19:07):
actually a genuine representation of how they look. How important
for you is it is it to see like older
women not necessarily changing who they are or how they look,
and actually just being themselves.
Speaker 10 (19:19):
Yeah, well, I mean, look for starters. I respect anyone's
decision to whatever, you know, whatever women want to do
with their bodies, absolutely, but I think me it's more
that the women who get selected to be shown in
the media. Oh shit, I'm so sorry that's doing bvp
things And I don't know how to make it.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Sixty seven days but put her in front of her
laptop and she's a classic boomer.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I did.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
There's notifications anyway, I might be whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Great to see Gina. Thanks coming will and thank you
so much. Thirteen sixty five would say, we're asking, what
is the worst fight you've had with your partner while
you've been traveling.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I think it happens to all of us. I don't
know why, but we fight on holiday. It happened with
French president Emanuel Nachon. He's been seen, I mean, getting
slapped effectively by his wife as they stepped off a plane.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Delicious.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
He did mention before that she's his teacher. So maybe
that you told me not to mention that. So I
don't know why we're going back she was his teacher,
maybe that maybe that's just the sort of relationship. Perhaps
she still punishes him like a naughty boy occasionally. I
won't comment on that, but maybe that might be a
thing of this, you know, that might be that's a
happy dynamic for them. They have said actually interesting to
say that that they were playfighting, so could be some
(20:41):
truth to that.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't forget. This is Mum and dad.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Dad is against like taxis when he's overseas, like he's more.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Of a great travel. He's like, no plans, no taxis.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
He's like, we're in this city once in our lives.
Why wouldn't we enjoy the streets.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I go for a walk.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I never forget my mum saying we're pretty far from
the hotel. I think we need some public transport. It's
late Steve and he goes, no, why walk, And then
the rest of the family gets in the cabin.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Dad walks. It took him six hours to walk down hour.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
He was on the other side of the city and
he got last he knew and he still said.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I had a lovely not going for affordable. We're in London.
We're in London and you wanted a walk?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Or no, you can't walk around London. Ah, let's got
to come in here.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Come. And this was a recent fight on.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Holiday, super recent, like just a week ago.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Oh wow, okay fresh one freshman.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
Ok yeah, super fresh. So like the family's still not talking,
oh wow.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
So what happened was we went to South Africa. It
was my brother's wedding and we'd booked with my parents,
my husband, myself and our toddlers go all over together
and we were there for a month and the last
forty eight hours. My husband decides that he's had enough
of my dad's controlling behavior and decided to go Mia
(22:06):
for forty eight hours. And literally on the day that
we are meant to fly back to the city, get
a call to say he's in hospital. He ended up
at a casino, had too many drinks, tripped over something,
and needed ten staples in the back of his head.
And that was literally hours before we had to be
at the airport. Makes fly. It was disastrous, And then
(22:32):
it just kept yeah, and then he met us at
the airport on time, for God, but it just kept
going like the whole fly was like a disaster. He
chose to sit on a different aisle.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It was just a week ago.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
Just a week ago, yes, yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Who packed his bags coming then?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Like, if he's gone straight to the airport after having
a stack at the casino, are his bags still in
South Africa? No?
Speaker 8 (22:55):
So I packed everything. I packed everything up and took
it with me and it was like, well, if he's
not there, then I'm going to have to just leave
it because I don't have the extra allow it. She
was in such a mood. He was like, I'll just
buy a new clothes it's fine.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
And I was just like, oh, my couragible, aren't they
It was awful, and my dad was, yeah, of course, it's.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
A long flight.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
It's a long flight home.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
It was a long flight, and it's been a long
week since.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I still hear that coming and unity voice, and I
feel for you speaking of men being encouragable overseas.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yes, so I went to a ski resort with my
partner Sam in Japan. She's a great skier.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yes, She's generally very good at which is much better
at sports than me, which is already humiliating. Yes, I
was snowboarding because I'm you know, I'm a low pant
riding cool guy.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I'd never snowboarded in powder before. I'm not sure's ever been.
In Japan. It's kind of famous for having this.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Like caster sugar style snow, which is traditionally very hard
to navigate, particularly on a snowboard.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
But again, I'm encourageable. I'm a man chipping my shulder
about the fact that my partner's better at sports than
I am. I don't need ski school.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I'll get straight out, mate, take me to take me
off piece, as they would say. So we were going
down a standard run. Sam said, I'm going to go
off piece. Anyway, I went down off piece, So what
is off piece?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Mean? Off the trail? So it's just trees and like
cast a sugar snow. I take one turn, I go under.
And when I say I go.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Under, I mean like the snow is over my head.
I cannot reach my bindings and the snow is caving
into the hole in my face.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
It is so hectic. I was like, I'm going to
die here in the snow. In Japan, have is people
we get buried? Right?
Speaker 11 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
So I start screaming. I'm like, Sam, Sam, you know,
finally she's heard me. So she stops getting She walks
up the slope and I'm like, Sam, can you just
pass me one of your poles. You're gonna have to
drag me out of here. I was like, you knows,
we might forget the skidoo up here and drag me
out this or.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
She reaches down and then instead of grabbing her pole,
grabs her phone out and.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Takes a photo of me in the snow. I've seen
the shut It's a great photo. We did not talk
for the whole day. That was the first thing in
the morning. We skied all day together, to the point
where some of the chairlifts at the snow resort with
massive half an hour on the chair. Yeah, and we
would sit on there with a stranger and the stranger
(25:14):
would only figure out like twenty minutes into the run. Oh,
you guys actually know each other. You just wouldn't talk
bloody hell. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
It is a great It's great. If you're not across.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
What happened to an amazing woman called Chloe Pink, I'll
quickly recap it.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
So Chloe Pink.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Married Toby Pink, who is a North Melbourne AFL footballer.
They had a secret wedding earlier this year. A couple
of months later, media found out that they got married
secretly and reached out to them and said, hey, we'd
just love to cover in the news the fact that
you had this secret wedding.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Chloe and Toby said yes.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I think a few.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Outlets the Herald Son I think they were the first
ones to jump on it in Melbourne. They posted some
photos of the wedding, did a story about the secret wedding.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
When this story got out, the.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Comments that were made on the story online were disgusting.
A lot about Chloe's appearance. So we brought Chloe into
the studio and she spoke about that.
Speaker 12 (26:23):
Wow, there was a lot of vile comments coming hard
and fast, all about my appearance, all about my weight.
There were comments calling me a fridge, comments saying that
Toby was a AFL player by day, pick hunter by night. Yeah,
there was the comments that genuinely shocked me, not even
(26:44):
just calling me fat. Like, there was really vile comments.
And they were not just one or two I think,
yeah it was. It was it's been a hard, hard week,
not just one or two either. There were so many,
and Harold Sun did what they could, like they were
deleting the comments, and eventually they had to turn off
the comments. But it was I'd never experienced anything like it,
(27:05):
and I guess I it was a bit naive, and
I know that I'm going to get hate comment. I
know that someone's going to call me fat, but I
didn't expect it to this extent.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Did you know that? Sorry just to because he said
I knew that I was going to get a comment.
Someone's good. So Jackie calls you in the Herald Sun.
Probably a lot of people's dream in the back of
your mind was also a thought where you were like,
I know someone's going to call me fat publicly in
these photos?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
How did you know that?
Speaker 12 (27:31):
Because I've been to another event where my photo's being posted.
I've also received one or two comments about the way
that I look. I can take that, which I shouldn't
have to, but I did not expect the vile comments
and to the extent and the nature of what was
to come.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So when these comments start coming through, how did you
see them?
Speaker 12 (27:51):
So I read the comments and I just spent I
think three days straight crying home. Initially, Toby's like, no way,
there's no way, and Taba just sat there in silence
for like a good day and he's like, I am
so sorry. And it felt like he was apologizing to
me because I was saying, oh, it's just I was
crying and it really hurt. But in the back of
(28:13):
my mind, I kept saying, it's just part of his job.
It's fine, it's just part of his job. But the
more I reflect on that, it's not If I say
that I'm excusing your behavior, and I go into my
TikTok and I have like hundreds of comments there. Yes,
ninety nine percent of my response has been from women,
but only one percent has been from men. Yeah, one percent,
(28:33):
ninety nine percent women. It's up to us men to
call it out. It's not going to stop if the
men are calling it out.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So I want to pick up on what she just
said there at the end of that audio, which is
that only one percent of men were commenting or messaging
her in support. So we posted a video of her
coming to the studio and got a massive response, thousands
of comments apparently. And my wife actually said to me,
because she saw the video. I was reading the comments,
and she said, what do he not one bloke has
(29:05):
commented on this video?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
If the thousands of comments that have come through these
all women, So I just thought thirteen one or six five,
it's the same.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Thing repeating effectively. Yeah, well, well not really. It's almost
worse than that, isn't it. It's like men are only
saying something if it's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I think there's a lot of blokes going I'm not
the one saying the disgusting things, so I'm not the
problem here. But I think again, I think we can
be a bit better here by being a bit proactive
and actually messaging with support they're doing more so again,
I just want to throw it out to the fellas here.
Does anyone want to call right now and just give
a thought or an opinion on this story?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Where do you sit with it? And do you want
to publicly talk about it?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Now? All right, goes up next. We just want to
hear from men at the moment.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Woods absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We're talking about Chloe Pink, who married her high school
sweetheart Toby Pink, who's an AFL footballer. They got secretly
married earlier in the year. Months later, media did a
story about the fact that they got married in secret.
Was obviously posted online and some really vile and disgusting
comments came through about Chloe's appearance. We brought Chloe into
(30:20):
the studio, had a chat with her about this. I
think she actually joins us right now, actually.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Close Are you there?
Speaker 11 (30:27):
Yes, yes, I'm here.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
We've opened the phone lines for guys to call now
and just give their views and thoughts on what happened
to you, Chloe. I think it's really nice actually that
you're here and they can actually say it to you.
I think that takes it one step further than just
so nice, good producing world done.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Guys. Doubletick for you too anyway, Nikki, welcome.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
To the show mate.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Hello, yeah, here you going boys?
Speaker 9 (30:48):
Good?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You've got Chloe here? Did you want to say something
about what happened to her?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Lurrie, you just got to ignore all that horrible and
disgusting behavior. I'm from England and obviously during the last
World Cup we have a guy called Declan Rice who's
a super excellent football player, but because his girlfriend isn't
a science eight like the rest of the team's wife,
(31:13):
she got so much hatred on our English website. It's
just disgusting And if I was you, I would think
to myself, you know what, I'm waking up every day
next to an AFL player who earned plays the money
so sous.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
That Hey, Nikki, are you like? I know your British
and I reckon the culture there is arguably in some
instance is worse than his Australia. Do you find as
a man it's hard to call out other men who
are like this, who are wait shaming and misogynistic, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Yeah, I don't even think it's got anything to do
with that. Obviously, people get so fixated within the teams
that they support that they just bag other people. Do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, I don't know. I think it's a bit more
personal than that. But thanks to the call only here,
I appreciate it. I think it's beyond football. I think
we can probably all agree that. Yeah, Chloe, I find
it ironic that your partner Toby plays AFL because I
just can't, like in any sports change room I have
been in that, I find that this is such a
(32:16):
task to get men to stop other men behaving in
that way. What does Toby say about that?
Speaker 11 (32:25):
No, I completely agree.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
He agrees as well.
Speaker 11 (32:28):
I think a good point that I heard the other
day is if you're not a part of thetion, you're
still part of the system.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah that's right. Yeah, Yeah, your silence is correct.
Speaker 11 (32:39):
And although it may be uncomfortable, and you'll find this
comfort in calling it out, but that's nothing compared to
what women deal with every day. So it might feel
uncomfortable for you for five minutes, but that had so
much more of an impact, and that discomfort is worth
a lot of value.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Let's go to Ryan, Ryan, we've got more men calling in.
This is great. Ryan, how do you feel about this?
Speaker 9 (33:05):
I'm honestly disgusted to be honest, that noble has really
come forward and showing support really because you know, as
I said to the producer before I'm going to meet
your old sister, I don't want her jumping on social
media and having that much being body shamed or hate
thrown towards her. So you know, I can't speak troll
(33:26):
all blokes, but on my behalf and prying my brothers
and everything. You know, if you've got nothing nice to say,
don't say it at all. You know, there's no point
putting other people down. We're trying to make the world
happier place. It's not the right day and eight for
it anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I think there's also beyond the two parts I open
to this. First of all, there is definitely a sense
of like if I'm a bigger dickhead, I'm a bigger man.
We both went to private boys skills like I know
that for a fact, Like when you're a teenager, that's basically.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
We're trying to impress other guys. Impress other guys.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
If you do that, that's the thing that is there.
But I think there are ways of being a dickhead
that don't involve hurting other people. You can still be
silly and still Alerican without needing to hurt people. I'd
love to see where you take this, Chloe, because I
think you're onto something and I think this is a
really plausible thing that we can.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Actually change if the right steps are taken in the
right place with young boys in particular, to start changing
the way they talk.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I think yeah.
Speaker 11 (34:26):
I think a big point as well is women don't
need you to feel guilty. We're not trying to shame you.
We don't need the men to feel guilty. We need
you to just show up like. It's not about shaming men,
it's about we're asking for your help. I'm not trying
to shame you. I'm literally asking for your help to
call it out.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
If we just remove the gender thing as well, it's
just people being nice to other people. Coldcency. Thank you
so much. Coming on, Chloe, Pink there if you want
to see the original video overseas, so Will and Woody
on Instagram and TikTok. We can get some men commenting
(35:06):
out of that video.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Get going, Fellers.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
It's Will and Woodies all.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Right.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
So analysis from gen Z. She's in here to try
and try and convince this that gen Z is relevant now.
The reason I was laughing just then is because you know,
I was saying just before the woods actually that the
problem with gen Z is that they never really step
out of their lane.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
But cudos to you. You tried a bit of a
millennial pastime a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I tried riding the bike.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Don't recommend guys.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Which I don't think in hindsight gen z Is can
do and they've lost the skill. The cast on your forearm,
I think is his testament to that.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I don't think. I don't think you guys can't swim.
I don't think you can't.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
I can swim. Excuse me, I can try.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
You certainly can't rise. It's not good. Yeah, it's it's
not good. Anyway. Is the bit you've got going on
about her cast?
Speaker 10 (36:16):
Check?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Anyway? Let's throw one, an't you here?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Anal?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
So again, this whole bit is do you understand pop culture?
That is relevant right now? Because I think you miss
a lot. So this is a big one and I
think everyone will know this. According to mc hammer, what
time is it?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Hammer time?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I can't believe it?
Speaker 10 (36:44):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Nice, nice, nice, and I might hurt myself.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
We went for a fist Pump and I have a
broken miss me. I cannot miss pump. Okay, I want
you to finish the line from this movie. I'll play
the first bit and then you've got to finish the line.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Easy chase, golong dawn catch to.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Sorry? What what was just happening?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
There was he speaking? It sounds like he was throwing
a ball for someone.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
No, chase, go along, damn nice catch to nice catch Cheer.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
There's a guy whose name is Cheer. He's just caught
a ball. He's gone along, he's got the ball. The
guy throwing the ball goes, nice catch.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Cheer, Nice throw Steve right, nice throw Steve.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, it's just about who is Steve at this point
because I don't know what the bit is like. I
don't know what movie that's from. Who is Cheer?
Speaker 7 (37:49):
It is a big movie, and we've spoken about the
person who's in it.
Speaker 9 (37:51):
You should.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
If it's Buddy Wears, what's his name is Anderson?
Speaker 9 (37:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:57):
That that singer guy? No from I think nice throw Steve?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
No my name quarterback?
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Now?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
What is it? That house of pain? We're back in there? No?
Speaker 7 (38:15):
The response no, not my name quarterback is a big
meme at the moment on the Internet, and it's from
the movie The Sidelined for Quarterback and Mena and me,
everyone in their cars whose gen z will know not
my name Quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
That's how she said it, essentially, Do you guys want
to try? It feels really good coming
My Heart podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
The Will and Woody podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I think I'm a pretty nice guy. I just think
I'm I'm a likable person. So it's strange to me
that your almost three year old daughter hates me. Like
I'm not talking out of school here, Like this is
a genuine issue and she has proven it multiple times.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, that she hates me. I mean, if you've missed
any of it, have listened to this.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Bards, We have long suspected that my two year old
daughter hates you. Why have you suspected this repect was
vaguely confirmed on the show yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Hello Max, Well.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I got home last night. I asked her point blank,
what are your friend? Do you like?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Whitty?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's been tough?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, I mean, I'm I'm just going on with my
life like it. See, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I don't need this. I don't need to.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Love of everyone I come into contact with. What are
you talking about? I don't play that noise again, It's
actually harmful. So I do need this.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
So yesterday on the show, I kind of commenteered the
radio show and just said, can we call your daughter again,
just so I can you know, tell her how amazing
I am.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And it went terribly put me on speaker immediately.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Max?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
She's running, you say, she's running, Run.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
After her, run after.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Okay, so she's now running away from my presence over
the phone.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So I've now taken it upon my head.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It did get a bit pushed last time. I feel
she was distressed by the end of that.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, I get that. But if she just said the
nigg you do get it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
No. But what I'm trying to say is if she
just says I like you, then I'll back it off
a little bit. If she continues to put up this
wall of hate, then I am going to push harder
and harder. And part of pushing harder is the fact
that I can coming to your house in the morning now, which.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I'm sure was incredibly annoying for you and your family.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
But You've come in two mornings this week, and both
times I've been having a shower. Let yourself in. Yeah, yeah,
I was.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Playing with your dog for a while this morning.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
But more important that I knew that you were in
the house today is because I got out of the
shower and the first thing I heard was my dog's
name is Stevie. The only thing I heard was Stevie,
where's mommy or Daddy or Max? Good chab, it's a
good chat. Stevie had no idea anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I had hot cross buns though, because I was like
all kids like hot cross buns. I just want to
get some face to FaceTime with Mags and deliver the
hot cross buns. Now, my question to you is she
wasn't there no at that time? Have you delivered the merchandise?
Yes to her and explains to her in no uncertain
terms that would he paid for that with his own money?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Well, I don't think money is a concept that you know,
she can quite grock at this age, which is not
quite across which you should get across that it's important.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well, did you make it clear that what you spent
time going to get these and he's given them to
you as a gift. Yeah, ideas come out of his way.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Again, you're laboring it like you just need to chill
out a little bit, you know, like that nothing there's
nothing less attractive than desperation, and you you exuded at
the current moment.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, I'll wear her down.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I don't. It's two years old.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
But anyway, did you get the hot cross buns or not?
I'm sorry I did.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I gave you hot You're right, she loves the hot
Cross buns. But well, no, I think she was quite
gracious in how she responded, Actually, these hot coss buns,
they're from Woody Did.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
You say came to from Woody?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Bag?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I said, thanks to Would you like me to say thanks?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Tody?
Speaker 7 (04:07):
Do you like Woodie?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
What is going?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
She fully understood the fact that I gave because she
thanked me.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Can you thank me and then still say I'm not
friends with you?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
This I just flighted perfectly as.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Far as I couldn't be prouder of it. She's almost
like she knew it was a bit, and she was
gracious as well. She was polite, didn't forget her manners.
Said thank you, make sure you say thank you. But
I still like that guy. I felt a lot of
proud pride for my child over there last you know,
two and a half three years. I'm sure you never
swelled with more pride than I did. I'm sure I'm
sure you're loving.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I almost think that she knows it's a bit now.
I couldn't be prouder of her. It feels too real.
She's two and a half. She can't know it's a
bit what you said.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
She doesn't grow money, she doesn't grock bits.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Anyway, I just need to know from other people. Thirteen
one oh sixty five is our number? Yeah, does your
kid hate someone for like no reason?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Like? Is this actually a thing that young children just designed,
that they hate someone?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I think so because right now I feel very alone.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I feel very skill. You're the only the only
adult that's hated by a toddler, So they're out there.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Thirteen one oh sixty five does your kid just did
they just decide to hate someone.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
For no real reason? And then I guess the secondary
question is did they ever get through it?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You're fresh to the show. You should know that my
two and a half year old daughter has now categorically confirmed,
on four different occasions that she hates Woody Well hates
a strong word. She doesn't like you. She doesn't see
I actually wouldn't ask you if she hates anything, but
she doesn't see you as a friend, which arguably hurts.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
More it does. I think i'd prefer the hate.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It's weird to be more simple to hate, isn't it's
It's clearly a childish response. Total I don't want him
as my friend. Is that's calculated. She's thought about it absolutely,
despite the fact that.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I'm coming up to your house regularly now and I
will continue to do this and interrupt your beautiful warnings
and deliver gifts to your daughter until she says, I
am her friend?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Who are you doing that for the small.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Child inside of me? And that small child's inside of everyone.
We all know it's there. Sometimes you have to nurture them.
So I'm just wondering now, though thirteen one O six
five is our number, does your kid just hate someone
for no reason? Because right now it does feel like
I'm the only adult out there who just has the.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Not the hate of a child, but the lack of.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Love from a rain that is that because I just
thought kids liked everyone.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Remy loves everyone. It doesn't matter who you are.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
She's like, I trust.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You, You're in ye, So that's nice.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Let's go to Shannon here, despite me trying to drip
like awful things about you to her because I kind.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Of want mind.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Oh you've been feeding to throw around things like Will
is a cheap ass, Like I'll just mentioned that, but
it's not really sinking in yet.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Shannon.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Hello, mates, You've got a niece who has a dislike
of someone I do. I do.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
She's about six years old and at no stage of
her life she.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Ever liked me. So how young did it start? Shannon?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
From the get go?
Speaker 7 (07:24):
I think it's the bead.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
I've got a bed and I don't know if it's
but wouldn't say hello to me and functions and give
me nothing?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And have you tried to push through that, Shannon? Because
I'm with your mate, I'm right there next to you.
Will's daughter does not like me? So what have you
done to try and win back the love of the
of your brivery?
Speaker 8 (07:45):
I love that I again.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
So that's that's what I'm trying to plain here, Shannon,
is that you need to ease up.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
But what if I just ignore her? Nothing's going to happen?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Right? Diagree? Disagree? Actually actually like like agrees. Shannon had
six years? Are you on speaking terms with your niece now?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Shannon? No, So she's six years old and she's like
never said what's what's the most she's said to you?
Speaker 9 (08:14):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Hello, that's it.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
That's all you get.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
You say often enough, her brother's right. Have you asked
her parents?
Speaker 7 (08:24):
Yeah, there's become a running joke in the family now, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It does get like that. It's definitely a running joke
in my householding with my familys col Shannon.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It's not funny at all to me.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I think he's hitting on something though. I do think
it's a good message to heat. The harder you push,
the more she's going to run away. But what does
that actually look like?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Practically like what I come over with the hot cross
buns and go No, it means not coming over.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Don't come over, Maddie. Is just a way of.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Maddie, Maddie, Maddie. This is your daughter irrationally hates someone.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Yes, she hates my brother in law, and so is.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
There Has there ever been a reason that you can
pin that to?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
And looks he scared her once, but from then on,
every time she sees him, she just screams, has a meltdown,
doesn't want to buy of him, just the whole work,
Oh my lord?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So and has he done anything to try and like
mend the bridge.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Every time we go over, he will? I try and
give her like a cardle, or I take her off
my sister, but then.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
She just loses it. How old is she? Did you say?
Madis okay?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So young?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
That's still that's when it does. That's when it started
with you as well. And then we learned this the
first time, Max said, I came into the studio. She
calls the studio the glassroom, and she said, wood, he
laughed at you in the glassroom. So ultimately she's protecting me.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So she just remembered one moment from our radio show
where obviously you were the butt of the joug.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And since that day she has hated She's black.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Marn't you forgiveness? Mate? I think so you are you
just thinking about that in reverse? Maybe you need to
be doing great things for me in front of her
or yeah, I think that's actually it. Now I hate
that you It flipped that. So I need is where
we're at all of a sudden. If I save your life,
I just start with a nice bottle of wine. Jamie's
(10:12):
called on by buying me a drink.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Jamie, Jamie, are you another one who was hated by
a child for no reason? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (10:23):
So my cousin she had two daughters, and every time
I'd walk in the room.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
They just would squill and yell and scream.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
I put it down to the fact that I had dreadlock.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
That's interesting.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
The worst part was their father had dreadlocks. So maybe
it wasn't the dreadlock.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I don't think it's the dreadlocks. Jamie. Have you managed to?
Have you managed to push through? Have you? Have you done?
Speaker 8 (10:48):
They're older now they like me.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Now, how did you do it?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Jamie? Teach me?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
How did I do it?
Speaker 8 (10:52):
I just stayed away.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
It's gone. So you've got two options here. Would either
stay away or you buy me dinner at least three
nights a week.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I think I prefer to stay away.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I would. So we are talking about you trying to
buy my two year old's love.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Sorry, that makes it sound awful. I'm just trying to.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Do exactly what you're trying to do. You're trying to
buy her love.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
No I'm not.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
No, I'm not just trying to do nice things for
her which do cost me money to make her like me.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
She hates you. She hates you. She made it quite
clear over the last couple of weeks. Yes, you can
follow this on our socials Instagram TikTok if you'd like
to a particularly funny video of her with her with
her underwear on her head, saying she hates you most recently,
which I quite enjoyed. That's goodyear, she's talking you. Yes,
she holds all the cards. I said to her a
couple of days ago, just because we do want to
(11:48):
move this on seminar. A bit over it, as I
said you before the daycare, A bit sick if you're
hanging around at the front, and I think she's entited
to carry on with her life. She doesn't deserve a
stalker at her age.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
So give me rocking up in the morning and dropping
getting I totally get it. So I said to her, Maxie,
what can what you do to win your affections back?
I played the audio before I played for you again.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
This is what she did count for me. You would
be happy if he makes a cake for you.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, Now, baking's not necessarily my bag in general.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Famously, at a sharehouse, served a souf fry, which was
a you put some sushi, you put some sushi and
some nacho's in the oven and mix them together. Yeah, yeah,
sou fry, sushi and a stirf fry. Yeah, yeah, well
a stir fried nacha was delicious dish. I found out
later when I went to bed. Everyone threw it out anyway,
(12:37):
and I was never allowed to cook again. But I
just I need some more direction on what cake she wants,
because right now it's just too broad. Like you know,
you don't just have cake written on a menu, do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So I just think if it's okay with you, because
I do appreciate that I am starting to intrude on
your family. WHI give her a quick tinkle now, yeah,
so I've checked with sim we can call her great, okay,
it quick.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You didn't talk. Well, First of all, she knows that
you're with me because she knows that I'm at work,
So I won't talk. Sam told me that I don't
think you'll need to talk. Apparently she's quite about to
find she's not a Jedi. She can't sense that I'm here.
I won't talk. All right, Well, say, I think she's
pretty averse to you, but all right, here we go. Hi. Hello,
(13:28):
how are we going there?
Speaker 6 (13:30):
You're good?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (13:33):
The phone?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Don member brother? Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Hi Maxie. She knows, she knows he's here. Doesn't she
she knows that what he's here? Don't on me? I
said nothing, send me. You might have to ask you
a question. If wood he makes her a cake, you're on?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
What? What's what sort of cake does she want?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You know?
Speaker 6 (14:05):
When you like crawl on your elbows forward were calling
to agree?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
She's army, crowling away escape?
Speaker 9 (14:18):
What makes you?
Speaker 10 (14:19):
What cake?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Do you want?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Chocolate? Okay?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Would you like white chocolate or milk chocolate?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
White chocolate? You don't even know what? And what do
you want on the cake? Makes you? Do you want
the Little Mermaid? Do you want Santa Claus? Do you
want the Easter Bunny? What do you want? She's drunk
with power, she's laughing at me. Okay, going out like
(14:54):
a Bond villain eupathetic adults. I'm going You're right where
I want you? And she does? She has does okay,
white white chocolate cake. I think that's all we're going
to get out of there?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Is that hard?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Is that hard to do it? Mate? Can I suggest something?
Speaker 11 (15:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
By it? Oh? I s you have no idea?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I was going to say the Australian bear grills, but
I feel like that under sells a Jena chick is
on willing Woody. Hello, Gena, Hi, it's so good to
be here.
Speaker 10 (15:30):
I love you guys so much.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Oh, we love you.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
We were just saying before we went live there.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Last time we spoke to you, you were kayaking in
the middle of Antarctica.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You've just informed us you are in Alice Springs.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
What are you doing in Alice Springs.
Speaker 10 (15:42):
I've been part of the Northern Territory Writers Festival on
DA Country and yeah, it's been absolutely magic. I also
did get to climb up a hill behind the venue
and you know, watch the sunset last night over the
mountains in the desert and it was bloody beautiful.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I think for most people in their rider it's things
like snacks.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Maybe a TV is your writer, just like there needs
to be a mountain in the vicinity that I can climb.
Speaker 10 (16:09):
Much, or some space where I can get outside and
actually just lie in the dirt. I'm not joking, or
a fire that I can you know, be a part of,
so that my hair actually smells like fire smoke instead
of you know, boring clean shampoo and conditioner.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, we were just joking about this off mic that
that you've got this brand that basically just allows you
to do whatever you want now because everyone just expects
that of you. You get to go barefoot everywhere. Yeah,
I get to go.
Speaker 10 (16:35):
Barefoot except on planes because you miss planes.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
They won't let you on. Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I had that issue with my daughter. Actually, I couldn't
believe it. They wanted the shoes on, shared the shoes of.
It was a big tantrum. But enough about that.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Hey, Gena, you're at the Writer's Festival and I don't
a brand new book. We are the Stars, so congratulations.
I know this is me talking to you about another celebrity,
but what do you I just found out that you
were best friends with Hugh Jackman. That's wild.
Speaker 10 (17:01):
Yeah, well apparently that's wild to me.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
It's just Hubie, it's Hubi.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Because because you became mates actually before either of you
became famous.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Gina.
Speaker 10 (17:11):
Yeah, yeah, like thirty seven years ago. So he's just
my mate, you know, he's just my mate.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
So I was listening he said that he met you.
I've got a bit of audio for it. I think
this is one of your book wards, Gina. I met Gigi.
Speaker 10 (17:25):
I met on Furst Day at university when I was
nineteen years old and we became best friends and.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Salat to this date. So I mean like obviously our
preconceptions of that interaction is that he's wearing the wolverine
outfit and you rock up, rolling dirt and bare feet,
of course, but you're nineteen, So how did that transpire?
If you don't mind hearing it was.
Speaker 10 (17:47):
Just Uni first day at Uni, you know, it's like
it's pretty boring. You know, everyone that you see on
Telly or is a celebrity, like they have an actual life,
and Gibby and I are just part of each other's
lives in the boring backstage way.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Love that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So if the two of you are just on a
boring camping trip, so you've got Wolverine for one, and
then you've got you survival expert. If there's a bear
that's approaching the camp side, question, who are you sending out?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Is it you or is it Hubie? I don't think
I have.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
An answer for that question. Maybe you know what I think,
maybe we joined forces.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
You know, Yeah, nice howers combined.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Sounds like you're protecting human It sounds like, hey, Gina,
you obviously beautifully authentic, And I mean like that's kind
of why I think Australia has fallen in love with you,
just you know, to watch you when you were doing
alone in Australia.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
You know, you get this very raw version of someone
you have to beat yourself here, as you said, you're
there for you know, sixty seven days in the wilderness
by yourself. You have a camera on you the whole time.
But I love that that's part of who you are.
And I know I saw that you speaking on a
bite with Alice on the ABC recently. You were saying
that you were like surprised that you are really one
of the few women who is your age who is
(19:07):
actually a genuine representation of how they look. How important
for you is it is it to see like older
women not necessarily changing who they are or how they look,
and actually just being themselves.
Speaker 10 (19:19):
Yeah, well, I mean, look for starters. I respect anyone's
decision to whatever, you know, whatever women want to do
with their bodies, absolutely, but I think me it's more
that the women who get selected to be shown in
the media. Oh shit, I'm so sorry that's doing bvp
things And I don't know how to make it.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Sixty seven days but put her in front of her
laptop and she's a classic boomer.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I did.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
There's notifications anyway, I might be whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Great to see Gina. Thanks coming will and thank you
so much. Thirteen sixty five would say, we're asking, what
is the worst fight you've had with your partner while
you've been traveling.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I think it happens to all of us. I don't
know why, but we fight on holiday. It happened with
French president Emanuel Nachon. He's been seen, I mean, getting
slapped effectively by his wife as they stepped off a plane.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Delicious.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
He did mention before that she's his teacher. So maybe
that you told me not to mention that. So I
don't know why we're going back she was his teacher,
maybe that maybe that's just the sort of relationship. Perhaps
she still punishes him like a naughty boy occasionally. I
won't comment on that, but maybe that might be a
thing of this, you know, that might be that's a
happy dynamic for them. They have said actually interesting to
say that that they were playfighting, so could be some
(20:41):
truth to that.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't forget. This is Mum and dad.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Dad is against like taxis when he's overseas, like he's more.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Of a great travel. He's like, no plans, no taxis.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
He's like, we're in this city once in our lives.
Why wouldn't we enjoy the streets.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I go for a walk.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I never forget my mum saying we're pretty far from
the hotel. I think we need some public transport. It's
late Steve and he goes, no, why walk, And then
the rest of the family gets in the cabin.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Dad walks. It took him six hours to walk down hour.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
He was on the other side of the city and
he got last he knew and he still said.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I had a lovely not going for affordable. We're in London.
We're in London and you wanted a walk?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Or no, you can't walk around London. Ah, let's got
to come in here.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Come. And this was a recent fight on.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Holiday, super recent, like just a week ago.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Oh wow, okay fresh one freshman.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
Ok yeah, super fresh. So like the family's still not talking,
oh wow.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
So what happened was we went to South Africa. It
was my brother's wedding and we'd booked with my parents,
my husband, myself and our toddlers go all over together
and we were there for a month and the last
forty eight hours. My husband decides that he's had enough
of my dad's controlling behavior and decided to go Mia
(22:06):
for forty eight hours. And literally on the day that
we are meant to fly back to the city, get
a call to say he's in hospital. He ended up
at a casino, had too many drinks, tripped over something,
and needed ten staples in the back of his head.
And that was literally hours before we had to be
at the airport. Makes fly. It was disastrous, And then
(22:32):
it just kept yeah, and then he met us at
the airport on time, for God, but it just kept
going like the whole fly was like a disaster. He
chose to sit on a different aisle.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It was just a week ago.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
Just a week ago, yes, yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Who packed his bags coming then?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Like, if he's gone straight to the airport after having
a stack at the casino, are his bags still in
South Africa? No?
Speaker 8 (22:55):
So I packed everything. I packed everything up and took
it with me and it was like, well, if he's
not there, then I'm going to have to just leave
it because I don't have the extra allow it. She
was in such a mood. He was like, I'll just
buy a new clothes it's fine.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
And I was just like, oh, my couragible, aren't they
It was awful, and my dad was, yeah, of course, it's.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
A long flight.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
It's a long flight home.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
It was a long flight, and it's been a long
week since.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I still hear that coming and unity voice, and I
feel for you speaking of men being encouragable overseas.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yes, so I went to a ski resort with my
partner Sam in Japan. She's a great skier.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yes, She's generally very good at which is much better
at sports than me, which is already humiliating. Yes, I
was snowboarding because I'm you know, I'm a low pant
riding cool guy.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I'd never snowboarded in powder before. I'm not sure's ever been.
In Japan. It's kind of famous for having this.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Like caster sugar style snow, which is traditionally very hard
to navigate, particularly on a snowboard.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
But again, I'm encourageable. I'm a man chipping my shulder
about the fact that my partner's better at sports than
I am. I don't need ski school.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I'll get straight out, mate, take me to take me
off piece, as they would say. So we were going
down a standard run. Sam said, I'm going to go
off piece. Anyway, I went down off piece, So what
is off piece?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Mean? Off the trail? So it's just trees and like
cast a sugar snow. I take one turn, I go under.
And when I say I go.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Under, I mean like the snow is over my head.
I cannot reach my bindings and the snow is caving
into the hole in my face.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
It is so hectic. I was like, I'm going to
die here in the snow. In Japan, have is people
we get buried? Right?
Speaker 11 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
So I start screaming. I'm like, Sam, Sam, you know,
finally she's heard me. So she stops getting She walks
up the slope and I'm like, Sam, can you just
pass me one of your poles. You're gonna have to
drag me out of here. I was like, you knows,
we might forget the skidoo up here and drag me
out this or.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
She reaches down and then instead of grabbing her pole,
grabs her phone out and.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Takes a photo of me in the snow. I've seen
the shut It's a great photo. We did not talk
for the whole day. That was the first thing in
the morning. We skied all day together, to the point
where some of the chairlifts at the snow resort with
massive half an hour on the chair. Yeah, and we
would sit on there with a stranger and the stranger
(25:14):
would only figure out like twenty minutes into the run. Oh,
you guys actually know each other. You just wouldn't talk
bloody hell. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
It is a great It's great. If you're not across.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
What happened to an amazing woman called Chloe Pink, I'll
quickly recap it.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
So Chloe Pink.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Married Toby Pink, who is a North Melbourne AFL footballer.
They had a secret wedding earlier this year. A couple
of months later, media found out that they got married
secretly and reached out to them and said, hey, we'd
just love to cover in the news the fact that
you had this secret wedding.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Chloe and Toby said yes.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I think a few.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Outlets the Herald Son I think they were the first
ones to jump on it in Melbourne. They posted some
photos of the wedding, did a story about the secret wedding.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
When this story got out, the.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Comments that were made on the story online were disgusting.
A lot about Chloe's appearance. So we brought Chloe into
the studio and she spoke about that.
Speaker 12 (26:23):
Wow, there was a lot of vile comments coming hard
and fast, all about my appearance, all about my weight.
There were comments calling me a fridge, comments saying that
Toby was a AFL player by day, pick hunter by night. Yeah,
there was the comments that genuinely shocked me, not even
(26:44):
just calling me fat. Like, there was really vile comments.
And they were not just one or two I think,
yeah it was. It was it's been a hard, hard week,
not just one or two either. There were so many,
and Harold Sun did what they could, like they were
deleting the comments, and eventually they had to turn off
the comments. But it was I'd never experienced anything like it,
(27:05):
and I guess I it was a bit naive, and
I know that I'm going to get hate comment. I
know that someone's going to call me fat, but I
didn't expect it to this extent.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Did you know that? Sorry just to because he said
I knew that I was going to get a comment.
Someone's good. So Jackie calls you in the Herald Sun.
Probably a lot of people's dream in the back of
your mind was also a thought where you were like,
I know someone's going to call me fat publicly in
these photos?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
How did you know that?
Speaker 12 (27:31):
Because I've been to another event where my photo's being posted.
I've also received one or two comments about the way
that I look. I can take that, which I shouldn't
have to, but I did not expect the vile comments
and to the extent and the nature of what was
to come.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So when these comments start coming through, how did you
see them?
Speaker 12 (27:51):
So I read the comments and I just spent I
think three days straight crying home. Initially, Toby's like, no way,
there's no way, and Taba just sat there in silence
for like a good day and he's like, I am
so sorry. And it felt like he was apologizing to
me because I was saying, oh, it's just I was
crying and it really hurt. But in the back of
(28:13):
my mind, I kept saying, it's just part of his job.
It's fine, it's just part of his job. But the
more I reflect on that, it's not If I say
that I'm excusing your behavior, and I go into my
TikTok and I have like hundreds of comments there. Yes,
ninety nine percent of my response has been from women,
but only one percent has been from men. Yeah, one percent,
(28:33):
ninety nine percent women. It's up to us men to
call it out. It's not going to stop if the
men are calling it out.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So I want to pick up on what she just
said there at the end of that audio, which is
that only one percent of men were commenting or messaging
her in support. So we posted a video of her
coming to the studio and got a massive response, thousands
of comments apparently. And my wife actually said to me,
because she saw the video. I was reading the comments,
and she said, what do he not one bloke has
(29:05):
commented on this video?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
If the thousands of comments that have come through these
all women, So I just thought thirteen one or six five,
it's the same.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Thing repeating effectively. Yeah, well, well not really. It's almost
worse than that, isn't it. It's like men are only
saying something if it's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I think there's a lot of blokes going I'm not
the one saying the disgusting things, so I'm not the
problem here. But I think again, I think we can
be a bit better here by being a bit proactive
and actually messaging with support they're doing more so again,
I just want to throw it out to the fellas here.
Does anyone want to call right now and just give
a thought or an opinion on this story?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Where do you sit with it? And do you want
to publicly talk about it?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Now? All right, goes up next. We just want to
hear from men at the moment.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Woods absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We're talking about Chloe Pink, who married her high school
sweetheart Toby Pink, who's an AFL footballer. They got secretly
married earlier in the year. Months later, media did a
story about the fact that they got married in secret.
Was obviously posted online and some really vile and disgusting
comments came through about Chloe's appearance. We brought Chloe into
(30:20):
the studio, had a chat with her about this. I
think she actually joins us right now, actually.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Close Are you there?
Speaker 11 (30:27):
Yes, yes, I'm here.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
We've opened the phone lines for guys to call now
and just give their views and thoughts on what happened
to you, Chloe. I think it's really nice actually that
you're here and they can actually say it to you.
I think that takes it one step further than just
so nice, good producing world done.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Guys. Doubletick for you too anyway, Nikki, welcome.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
To the show mate.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Hello, yeah, here you going boys?
Speaker 9 (30:48):
Good?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You've got Chloe here? Did you want to say something
about what happened to her?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Lurrie, you just got to ignore all that horrible and
disgusting behavior. I'm from England and obviously during the last
World Cup we have a guy called Declan Rice who's
a super excellent football player, but because his girlfriend isn't
a science eight like the rest of the team's wife,
(31:13):
she got so much hatred on our English website. It's
just disgusting And if I was you, I would think
to myself, you know what, I'm waking up every day
next to an AFL player who earned plays the money
so sous.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
That Hey, Nikki, are you like? I know your British
and I reckon the culture there is arguably in some
instance is worse than his Australia. Do you find as
a man it's hard to call out other men who
are like this, who are wait shaming and misogynistic, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Yeah, I don't even think it's got anything to do
with that. Obviously, people get so fixated within the teams
that they support that they just bag other people. Do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, I don't know. I think it's a bit more
personal than that. But thanks to the call only here,
I appreciate it. I think it's beyond football. I think
we can probably all agree that. Yeah, Chloe, I find
it ironic that your partner Toby plays AFL because I
just can't, like in any sports change room I have
been in that, I find that this is such a
(32:16):
task to get men to stop other men behaving in
that way. What does Toby say about that?
Speaker 11 (32:25):
No, I completely agree.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
He agrees as well.
Speaker 11 (32:28):
I think a good point that I heard the other
day is if you're not a part of thetion, you're
still part of the system.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah that's right. Yeah, Yeah, your silence is correct.
Speaker 11 (32:39):
And although it may be uncomfortable, and you'll find this
comfort in calling it out, but that's nothing compared to
what women deal with every day. So it might feel
uncomfortable for you for five minutes, but that had so
much more of an impact, and that discomfort is worth
a lot of value.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Let's go to Ryan, Ryan, we've got more men calling in.
This is great. Ryan, how do you feel about this?
Speaker 9 (33:05):
I'm honestly disgusted to be honest, that noble has really
come forward and showing support really because you know, as
I said to the producer before I'm going to meet
your old sister, I don't want her jumping on social
media and having that much being body shamed or hate
thrown towards her. So you know, I can't speak troll
(33:26):
all blokes, but on my behalf and prying my brothers
and everything. You know, if you've got nothing nice to say,
don't say it at all. You know, there's no point
putting other people down. We're trying to make the world
happier place. It's not the right day and eight for
it anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I think there's also beyond the two parts I open
to this. First of all, there is definitely a sense
of like if I'm a bigger dickhead, I'm a bigger man.
We both went to private boys skills like I know
that for a fact, Like when you're a teenager, that's basically.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
We're trying to impress other guys. Impress other guys.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
If you do that, that's the thing that is there.
But I think there are ways of being a dickhead
that don't involve hurting other people. You can still be
silly and still Alerican without needing to hurt people. I'd
love to see where you take this, Chloe, because I
think you're onto something and I think this is a
really plausible thing that we can.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Actually change if the right steps are taken in the
right place with young boys in particular, to start changing
the way they talk.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I think yeah.
Speaker 11 (34:26):
I think a big point as well is women don't
need you to feel guilty. We're not trying to shame you.
We don't need the men to feel guilty. We need
you to just show up like. It's not about shaming men,
it's about we're asking for your help. I'm not trying
to shame you. I'm literally asking for your help to
call it out.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
If we just remove the gender thing as well, it's
just people being nice to other people. Coldcency. Thank you
so much. Coming on, Chloe, Pink there if you want
to see the original video overseas, so Will and Woody
on Instagram and TikTok. We can get some men commenting
(35:06):
out of that video.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Get going, Fellers.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
It's Will and Woodies all.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Right.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
So analysis from gen Z. She's in here to try
and try and convince this that gen Z is relevant now.
The reason I was laughing just then is because you know,
I was saying just before the woods actually that the
problem with gen Z is that they never really step
out of their lane.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
But cudos to you. You tried a bit of a
millennial pastime a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I tried riding the bike.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Don't recommend guys.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Which I don't think in hindsight gen z Is can
do and they've lost the skill. The cast on your forearm,
I think is his testament to that.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I don't think. I don't think you guys can't swim.
I don't think you can't.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
I can swim. Excuse me, I can try.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
You certainly can't rise. It's not good. Yeah, it's it's
not good. Anyway. Is the bit you've got going on
about her cast?
Speaker 10 (36:16):
Check?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Anyway? Let's throw one, an't you here?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Anal?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
So again, this whole bit is do you understand pop culture?
That is relevant right now? Because I think you miss
a lot. So this is a big one and I
think everyone will know this. According to mc hammer, what
time is it?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Hammer time?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I can't believe it?
Speaker 10 (36:44):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Nice, nice, nice, and I might hurt myself.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
We went for a fist Pump and I have a
broken miss me. I cannot miss pump. Okay, I want
you to finish the line from this movie. I'll play
the first bit and then you've got to finish the line.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Easy chase, golong dawn catch to.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Sorry? What what was just happening?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
There was he speaking? It sounds like he was throwing
a ball for someone.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
No, chase, go along, damn nice catch to nice catch Cheer.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
There's a guy whose name is Cheer. He's just caught
a ball. He's gone along, he's got the ball. The
guy throwing the ball goes, nice catch.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Cheer, Nice throw Steve right, nice throw Steve.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, it's just about who is Steve at this point
because I don't know what the bit is like. I
don't know what movie that's from. Who is Cheer?
Speaker 7 (37:49):
It is a big movie, and we've spoken about the
person who's in it.
Speaker 9 (37:51):
You should.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
If it's Buddy Wears, what's his name is Anderson?
Speaker 9 (37:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:57):
That that singer guy? No from I think nice throw Steve?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
No my name quarterback?
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Now?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
What is it? That house of pain? We're back in there? No?
Speaker 7 (38:15):
The response no, not my name quarterback is a big
meme at the moment on the Internet, and it's from
the movie The Sidelined for Quarterback and Mena and me,
everyone in their cars whose gen z will know not
my name Quarterback.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
That's how she said it, essentially, Do you guys want
to try? It feels really good coming
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