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Speaker 1 (00:06):
The guy called Benjamin Schreiber. He's on a life sentence, right,
what did you do? Don't want to go into it,
get serious, right, But he's on a life sentence.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
He's probably killed Tom.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm not going to confirm or denarie whether he's done that.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
But he's on a life Centerce where is he He
is in Iowa.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
He's in Iowa prison.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I still have the death penalty in Iowa. Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Anyway, this is where things get interesting. In twenty fifteen,
it was quite a while ago. It's back in the
news that it could be hidd in the courts. In
twenty fifteen, he developed kidney stones and then began suffering
from septic poisoning.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Right, and his heart stopped and then he had to
be resuscitated.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh so they could kill him.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So totally separately, he actually legally died for about four minutes.
His heart stopped for four minutes, and then he was revived.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh wow, So he was like, look, I've already died.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I've died. Hence I have completed the legal need.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
In me actually wants to ask more questions. But you're not.
You're inadequate.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, I want to get into it. I just think
this is the most fascinating local case. So I just
I just want to do it, and I know we
won't die.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
No, no, no, no, no, no, I want to do You
want to get kidneys done? No no, I.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Want to do the court case. We don't have a
lot of time, though.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You want to do it with me?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, I want to do quickie court, all.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Right, real kisses, real quick. It's quickie court. Call call
quickie course. The experts in the tree.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
The carpet court. No, no, girls, clever. Okay, here's how
it's gonna work. Thirteen one oh sixty five is our number.
We need a jury. First three, people who deem themselves
reasonable citizens will become our jury.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Okay, you have to be a reasonable person.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
The fare and lay excuse me even know it? Layman,
fair and lay like a lay person. Yeah, like a
like a like a reasonable lay. You've never heard there before,
never a lay jury, like like an ordinary person.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
All right, you need to be a lay and you
need to be a reasonable person. Also.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Again, first three, you're going to be our jury, and
then up next will I am going to be on
the side of the guy who thinks he doesn't deserve
the life sentence.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
You're going to try and defend him. Yes, you're going
to try and say this guy shouldn't die.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
He's done his life sentence.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's what I'm dying.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes, okay, okay, that's I'll have thirty seconds to argue that.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You will be the opposite. Ten I, you are joking.
You want to choose that side. I thought about it.
You can defend the guy call QUINTI course the experts
in the tree.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
There's genuinely a fascinating real court case that's going on
right now in Iowa. Prisoner called Benjamin Schreiber is serving
a life sentence.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
He's not up for the death Penaltyologies I clarify that.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I was saying death sentence before the song. It's a
life sentence, okay. He is now claiming, though, that because
his heart stopped for four minutes through a medical issue,
his heart actually stopped. He was then revived. He's now
going guys, I served my life sentence. YEP, I died, right,
so I'm off. Time for me to go and start
(03:29):
a farm or whatever he wants to do.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Anyway, So I want to do a quickie court right now.
So we're both going to be.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Defending him, and I'm going to be prosecuting him. And
I've got a jury of fair and lay people who
are going to be judging com We need a jury
of an uneven number three, but I know there are
a lot of people that are called, but maybe just three.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
We do have three now.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I don't have time to talk to all of you,
but we do have Bernadette, Angela and Robert. I'm just
gonna ask you, Robert, because I can't be bother going
through everyone else.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But why are you a reasonable person to be on
this jury?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Mate?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
I just say it how it is and there's no bulls.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Him between perfect I'm happy with that. No objection from me.
There no objection from me.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
He sees it out is now will I don't know
how court works.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, who goes first?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I'll probably go first.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well, the floor is yours.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
You have thirty seconds, okay, to tell me why this
guy shouldn't get off his life sentence because he's heart stopped.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Okay, So this guy's been given a life sentence, which
I think we all agree is a horrible form of punishment.
There's the reason he's been given a life sense because
we want to punish him and the fact that he
thinks that because you've got kidney stones and potentially died
for a few seconds should excuse him of actually serving
a sentence which we all think he deserves, is absolutely preposterous.
(04:48):
Doesn't make any sense at all. In fact, I don't
think we'd be talking about this unless you confused life
sentence for the death penalty earlier, would he, and then
you realized during the song that a life sentence wasn't
the death penalty. I'm sad to think that somebody who
goes unconscious for maybe three seconds then gets out of
a twenty year sentence. Otherwise that all be doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Okay, time's up, Okay, jury, that's a great point a prisoners.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
All prisoners would then just start finding ways to make
themselves really sick to get out of their actual sentence.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You've gone far too long, and I will ask all
jurors to scratch wills last five seconds of points.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Bernadette, you're good with that?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, great, it stopped when the timers stopped, so all
that good stuff he was doing at the end, you
must scratch it, all right. I've got thirty seconds now
to defend. It's not my boy, actually it's a batman.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
But I'm defending.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
We go well, the definition of reincarnation is this the
belief that the soul of spirit after biological death begins
a new life.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yes, this man point ended. Benjamin has died.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Illogically, he died, and he is about to start a
new life, a new life that doesn't have a life sentence.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
His previous life did have a life sentence, and he
served it. I'm my thirty.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
He served it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I'm having five more seconds. He has served it, but
his life ended. He is now in a new life
where he's a good little boy.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He's the same person.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
He's not in his head. Not your head, but he's
not in his head. He's a good boy. Okay, new life,
No life centers on new life.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I read about that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Read I arrest my case. Arrest my case.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
What about the people that he killed?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Strike that from the from the court records.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
He's got a life sentence. He's done something very naughty,
which we're not allowed to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
He haven't gone in.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I'd like to think about the families of the people
that killed.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Strike that from the court. Okay, let's go to well,
let's go.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
To the jury. Put that down, we go to the jury.
We obviously need an It's a best of three here
in quickie court.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Bernadette, do you think this man is out of his
life sentence or do you think he needs to continue
to serve it?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Good good judgment on both calls. I think he still
needs to stay in. I think he's still guilty.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Okay, very good. One nil to Will? What will do
my nail to? Will?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Second? An orthodox put us to a Hindu on here
that genuinely believes in reincarnation. I think you cooked angela, Angela?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Do you think he served his life sentence because his
heart stopped so he's free man?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Both good points, but I think he needs to serve
his sentence.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's over to finish with Robert. Let's finish with Robert.
I want the grand slam. I want the clean sweet Robert.
What do you think, mate?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
He's died, He's dying, He's come back and new man.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I know he goes and how he says it. The
results or that the finding from the Bruce Lehman trial
have just concluded this afternoon. And Mikayla Whitburn, whose legal
(08:16):
affairs correspondent for the Sydney Morning Herald and the age
that Chief Court reporter joins is right now. Mikayla, what
has happened?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Hello? Oh so huge day today. So we've just had
Justice Lee's decision in Bruce Lehman's defamation case against ten
and Lisa Wilkinson. Massive day in court, with the judge
finding that they've established a defensive truth to an allegation
that Bruce Lehman raped Brittany Higgins in Palman House in
twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay, if you could treat me like a twelve year
old here, Mikayla, I am quite so with legal proceedings.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I'm glad you have you too.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So what's happened today is that the lawyers representing Channel
ten have proved enough that he did actually commit the rape. Yes.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
And it's really important to note here that this is
in a defamation case, which is a civil trial. It's
not a criminal matter, and it means that the standard
of proof is lower. So what Tan and LEAs of
Look consider they need to do was to establish on
the balance of probabilities, which means it's more likely than
not that Bruce Lemon raped Britainny Higgins'm Parlament House. Now
that is necessarily a much easier task, although it's still
(09:22):
difficult than proving to the criminal standard, which is beyond
reasonable doubt that this occurred. So this is not a
criminal it's not a criminal conviction.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Okay, So, but that can happen now that there's evidence
to show or that someone has proven some level of truth.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I'm not saying that there's going to be any criminal
process that flows through this, but what it does show
is that, at least according to one standard, the civil standard,
he's been found to have committed this act. And it
does mean that he's completely lost his defamation case and
he's now on the hook for essentially millions of dollars
in legal fees from the successful parties. But we know
that he doesn't have the money to pay it, so
(09:59):
I guess ten at least he looking to watch to
find that money themselves.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh right, So, michaelis, why wouldn't this now go to
a criminal case. I appreciate that they haven't had to
prove it to the level of a criminal case, but
if they still have found that it's more likely that
he did commit the rape on Britney Higgins surely they're going, Okay,
let's criminally change this guy.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Now, why wouldn't that happen?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Well, we have to go back to twenty twenty two,
which is when Bruce Bowman, who has always maintained his innocence,
did stand trials for Britney Higgins sexual assault. Now that
the trial was aborted because of DURA misconduct because there
was evidence that one juror had brought the search into
the jury room, which is not permitted, and the DPP
at that time considered whether or not he should stand
(10:41):
trial for a second time after that happened, but that
did not proceed ultimately because the DPP decided that there
were concerns about Brittney Higgins's mental health. I can't say
that there's ever going to be any further criminal charge
attaching to this. But what we have today, similar to
as you have said earlier, I think that Ben robertson mismatter,
we have had a finding to the civil standard that
(11:03):
offenses have been committed.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Wow, Okay, there's a lot going on. Heykayla, a couple
I've got a couple more things for you. So you're
a court reporter obviously, so you have you been in
there while while Bruce Levan's been in there defending himself
at all. Has he been present during this or has
it just been his lawyers?
Speaker 7 (11:19):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:19):
So he quite unusually because in a sexual assault trial,
when it's a criminal matter and accused can opt to
maintain their silence, they don't have to give evidence in court.
But he didn't give evidence in his criminal trial, but
in the decimation case he did give evidence. And in
fact it was all streams live on YouTube by the
Federal Court, so you were able to watch it really
wherever you wanted to.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You could have worked from home amazing could have, but
probably didn't because you're a professional. What was he like
in court?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I mean, was he just gave very forceful evidence that
nothing of the kind that Britain Higginson accused him of
had happened. He said there was no sexual contact between
them at all, completely rejected as suggested by another witness,
that he'd actually been seen pashing which was the word
used in court Brittany Higgins, hours before the alleged assault.
So he just presented the witness who was adamant that
(12:08):
what he had been accused of had not occurred, and how.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Did he see him after the judgment was passed down.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Well, we do have a photo of him on the
Held and Age websites at the moment where he looks
pretty stony faced coming out of court. So I imagine it's
a pretty shock development in court today and he probably
isn't going to be saying much about it.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And final question, I know Lisa Wilkinson's released his statement.
I've got that here.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
Federal Court has found that I've published a true story
about a rape in a Federal minister's office at Parliament
House in March of twenty nineteen. I sincerely hope that
this judgment gives strengths to women around the country.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I'm so happy for her.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Is Lisa been present throughout the trial as well, Michaelis?
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Yeah, she has been there for a lot of the
trial and she also gave evidence in their case. So yeah,
she's been a central figure in the court case.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Huge day, Huge for huge day. Yeah, I'm sure you've
got a huge court report to finish. So thanks so
much for joining us, Mikayla. I really really appreciate her
and for you offering your time and what is a
momentous day and really Australian history.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Here take care, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Thanks mate. Mikayla Whitburn there. She is a legal affairs
correspondent for the Sydney Morning Herald and the Age. If
any of that in there was distressing, then don't forget.
You can contact Lifeline thirteen eleven fourteen or you can
call one one hundred respect if there are any things
that had a bit nasty to come up for you
in terms of the abuse side of that case. Totally wild.
(13:40):
What a day. She's a busy girl. Mikayla Whitburn, bloody.
I'd like you to get her.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
How BIG's a court report? I've never done one of them.
It was on YouTube. Just refer to YouTube.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
It's all. It's all there, Megan Markle. I mean, this
story just gets my mouse click every time. Trades in
her stilettos for a seven hundred sixty dollars a pair
of Hermez flip flops and breezy linens as she joins
Prince Harry for his Netflix polo shoot in Palm Beach.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
She bought the title yet it's a big title, one day.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
After she was mocked for her in practical on field attire.
That's just the headline, but it was you know, despite
the words, the content for me there is so enticing
that I had to click on it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And seven hundred and sixty dollars fongs is appropriate racer tire?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I wouldn't wear a flip flop to the races.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
She's at the polo. I don't think it's the races.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
The horses are involved.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I imagine the dress code for polo is similar to
you know, the races.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
No, well, I don't know that, but a lot of
them are not wearing very formal attire.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
What of those flip flops got I'm sorry, I'll put
it down in two seconds, but what kind of furmaiz?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, but it's seven hundred and sixty dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
If they made a toothpick, it would be fifty dollarsmez sure.
I think it could be the most expensive Luxualy Brandon
in the world.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Anyway, the I this for me because I mean, like
Megan Marchael doesn't want to go to the polo.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I wouldn't have thought, who wants to go to the polo?
No offense to the parlam enthusiasms.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Particularly one day after she was mocked for her in
practical on field attire. She's not going to want to
go again.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh she's not.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Two days in a row, well, I you know it
process a deduction. Yesterday she must have been mocked for
her I practical on field of tire.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It's too much polo for me. Two days straight she.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Rocked up in seven hundred and sixty dollars her mare's
flip flops. A day later being mocked after impractical on
field of time.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Absolutely, I would imagine very good cannipace.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You can go into the impractical on field to tire
if you really wander. But I feel like that producers
are losing injurest which I which I mean, it's a
lot of other people are as well. But for me,
des by the fact they've been together for a long time. Yeah,
how long did how on youday? How long have they
been together for?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Six years?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
To bang on, that's extraordinary, that's extraordinary, fact some fact
it could be and they might have a child, that's.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Someone look the fact that for me, for me, it
is an indication of the fact fact checking of the
fact that even if they have been together for six years,
that for me screams early on in a relationship. Like
when you.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
See when you see people at a restaurant and they
spend more than ten minutes at the restaurant, That for
me is like, you don't when me and I go
for a couple of hours. That's such an early relationship thing,
is we? I mean when we get into a we
we have ordered our meals before we've even sat down.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
What do you mean you just go don't You don't
you find that? Like early on it was like, yeah,
we'll spend a couple of hours in this restaurant. Nowadays
it is the experience.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I like. I enjoy food. Yeah right, I'm still going out,
so I like sitting down and having a pair of
tief maybe an oyster. You know this?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Fair enough, fair enough, Okay, I'm just not a food.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'll have a look at the desserts, of course they will.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, sure, okay, I'll get you on this one.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Early in a relationship, I have it on a seven hundred.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Early in a relationship, do you eat light like?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I feel like you're like, oh no, I'll get like
a smaller meal later on in a relationship, you gorge No.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I tend to eat a lot all the way through. Yeah,
and I think both of these things tie in with
your relationship with food.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It's probably fair enough.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You probably quite because you have your bowl syndrome. You're
very very careful about what you eat early in a relationship,
very very true. In fact, I imagine you'd avoid meals
in general for dates. You're more of a walk guy.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I was definitely a guy or a Yeah, I was
a posting a drink guy.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, because I don't want to have to say onion free,
garlic free, gluten free, dairy free.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well there you go. See, Hey, I'm going to say
post in a drink in general is something that is
the sign of the fate that you are very early
on in a relationship, because you're not having a post
in a drink true, if you've been in a relationship
for a while. I'm to throw another one at you.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Here, massages give you massage.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, I think that's an early on thing.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Even as whether you're saying that it's like a nice
favor for the person or for play for them, they
go just.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
For playing general generally was very transactional.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I was actually listen to Diary of a CEO recently
and I found out that the number one thing that
British people do to initiate sex is say, fancy a shag.
That's just that's how transactional it is.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Gets the point out there.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And also because you get to the point if you're
in bed your relationship for a while, you're just so
used to getting rejected that you just throw it up,
like I'll just throw it down the hallway. That's your shake.
I wasn't a metaphor, by the.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Way, showering together.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Share the shower that when you're actually showing with someone's
in there for half the time, it's like, my ass
has got frostbite?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Can you give me a go under the head.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That's very true. That's that's a very good one. Another one,
I was thinking here another one. I'm thinking, here the
man and I think this might just be heterosexual relationships.
Men still trying to defend their mother after an interaction.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
So you're saying that happens early I think so.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I think early on, I think all guys are like, oh, no,
you know, she's just a little bit prickly today, or
something like that. I think as it goes on, you're
like you just you just learn, you learn that you've
got to play the sides.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
It's the hardest thing to do.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
You do right, you do after you leave, or you
can't say anything.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
You're a bit silenced.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I'd almost chop my tongue out when the conversation comes up.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Exciting.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
How seriously, it's time for celebrity yess who?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah? All right, So basically I describe a celebrity. You
guys have to guess who it is. It's just pure
description of their facial features, genuinely in a praising fashion.
And if you can guess who the person is before Wood,
you can guess who it is. You win one hundred
dollars to spend at Red Rooster, a favorite people for
chicken and or chips. Woods.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
All right, so next sorries probably go on. We allow
neck descriptions, don't we.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Would you'd like a bit of neck chat when you're sick?
All right, here, I'll give you the first clue. Everyone
else give us a call thirteen one oh six five
if you think you know who this is, and we're
gonna give you one clue for now, though, hit me
m round face, quite a round face.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Round face, round face, Boris Johnson, Boris Johnson.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I wouldn't say it's round so it's more like blobby. Yeah,
round round, quintessential moonface. I'm gonna say so if you well,
I'll go to Jackie first.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Fair enough, Jackie, who do you.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Reckon that is? I think it's a good, great guess incorrect?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
His son Matthew, similar face.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
No, no, I wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Paul Giammarty, No not Paul Giamarty, No, would you like
some more another clue?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, probably need it?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Wait one more again?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
A moonface?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Have you seen anyway? Go on next?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Puffy cheeks quite pronounced quite like full cheeks, but not
necessarily a chubby face, if that makes any sense. Cheeks,
quite puffy cheeks for a slender face.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Amelia's called on th Hi, Hi, Amelia, who do you
think that is? I think I got this.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Bannaby Joyce, Oh wow, great guess incorrect?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Incorrect, Yo, good guess Amelia, Wow, Amelia love that. There's
sorts of cheeks I'm after, But slender face with those cheeks, cheeks,
honey colored hair, honey colored.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Hair alba.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Incorrect. Mariah Carey, No, no, no, So we've got round
face pretty much a moonface. I'm going to say, quite
puffy cheeks, quite full cheeks, but still a lend a
face to go with those full boys. She's got honey hair.
The woman honey hair. I'm gonna give you one more hair.
(22:10):
Narrow eyes, narrow hmmm, narrow eyes. Now, don't yeah, narrow.
That's no reflection on earth on their ethnicity, wasn't I
wasn't thinking that you You were James on Thurday one
and six five? James, is it Jonah Hill? Honey hair? James?
Does Jonah Hill have honey colored hair? And is he
(22:32):
a woman? Samantha's called one and six five Samantha?
Speaker 7 (22:40):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Do you think it is Samantha?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Well, originally I was thinking Selena Gomez, but then you said.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Honey Jennifer Lawrence, Jennifer, No, guests, not sorry, it's honey
colored hair.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's a round face with full cheeks, still a slender face,
full cheeks though, Gneth Paltrow, they've got thin eyes and
they've got very well maintained eyebrows. I'm going to say
one more thing here. Their skin is almost porcelain, their
skin almost porcelain. Honey hair. Now, would you like a
(23:20):
neck clue your Neckxico.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
You're gonna have to you're gonna have to give me
the neck. Talk to me about her neck, give me
the length of her hair.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
It's always well, when they were younger, kid, it was
a lot younger. No, the hair now probably sits at
shoulder heart or just below shoulder height, which I think
is on trend at the moment. If I had to
Sarah Snook, no, I'm going to say lighter hair in
the hair. You're in the right hair zone with Snook.
But she's more slender than Snook. Jasmine's called on thirty
(23:50):
one Jasmine, who is it?
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Does It's question?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, wow, that's the perfect description of her face. Thank
you appreciate that. Josh Thomas in the studio. Hello, good
tickets to Josh's show That's Tidy Up available a Josh
Thomas dot com dot au. But Josh saw that you
(24:17):
were on a road trip with your mom to Cans
recently and saw a whole bunch of regional fetishers on grinder.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I'm always traveling around to I'm always opening grains and.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I just want to you, is this with your mom?
By the way, Like, why.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
You're who always got my grain job with my mum?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, you open your grinder with your Mom.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah, I say, the boy's going to pick me up
a going the through the water far, I'll be back.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Do you choose do you choose men with?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Mom?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Mom? What do you think about this? This guy?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I don't know. I don't get out of vat then.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
He looks like a good boy.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
But if I'm on a trip with my family, I'm not.
I'm not. Note you don't understand, no, no, no more
probably less because I need an excuse to go. You know,
like if I say to them, the lower.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Your standards with you when you're with your family.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I've got to go for a walk. I need some space.
Everyone gets hurt feelings. But if I'm like this boy.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Is coming, then everyone understands. Everyone would rather you go
and have sex with the stranger than go and walk peacefully.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, doing it to protect their feelings feeling.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Because the person you tell the guy like this, I'm
not really interested in you. I just wanted to get
away from family for a while.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
We just like, you know, we make that supposed to
be quick because a grinds hook that we want to
go home, and I'm like, please.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Don't need you don't know who I have to go
back to? Nothing left to say to these people, So,
what are the what are these finishes that we're talking about?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
This one that I see in every I want.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I haven't been on grind before. I've had a look
at Button Bush and Tommy's, but I've never actually they put
on their their fetishes.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Well, so you grinder is it's an appet it's a
dating app, but it lists people according to how far
away they are, because.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
That's I already disability.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
It's a little bit less, we're not.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It's a public toilet. I don't care about it.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
It's the first priority, and then you can put anything
you want on the profile.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
So, and there's always like an a regional town, there's
just always somebody who has like a really specific fetish
that like wants you to like blow up a balloon
until it pumps and they've posted or they want to
wear like a diaper and have someone change their nappy.
And I just always think, like, that's fine, that's what
you want to do, and you're on the right app,
like that's that's okay, But you can't be doing that
if you live in the country. You've got to move
(26:32):
to a city. Like that's because I'm like, it's It's
hard enough to find someone that you like, that's attractive,
that likes you, that wants to make out with you,
and then you build a life in once you factor
in the requirement that they want to change a diaper
or even know how to change a diaper. Even if
I wanted to, I wouldn't be able to help this
guy out. I don't have to watch a YouTube video.
I don't. I don't have kids, so that I just
(26:55):
I just always see them when I'm in rural Australia.
I just feel so sad for them.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I think they really hectic.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
It must be once once every three years someone comes along.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
It's really hectic. Yeah, you're right, there's a lots taken
in there.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
But how was changing the diaper when you did?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Finally, I didn't do it?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Is it? Is it breaking codes to go on grinder?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Now?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Oh well, it's not codes or codes I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Know there are radio codes that breaking the code. I
was not saying the first first one that pops up.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
It's not like generally it's just told us of people
like it's just face pictures of the cute boys. I mean,
like it's not usually that crass and.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
These are they sorted. I think I know that guy.
It's almost guarantee. So can you sort according to location
right now?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
So that's according to locations.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
The first one, the guy in the wife front's there.
Oh yeah, wow, is he close?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
They don't have their distance turned on, but I can
tell you by going to the next are we having fun?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I am having This person is.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Eighty seven meters away, and then the three people that
we just saw before that within eighty seven meters, So like,
definitely there's like this.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Point it does have their distance on, and then accordingly
the pres within that radius.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Yeah, so I think there's a really good chance. At
this point they were all looking at the picture of
him might be having.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
A Josh take it to Josh's show. Let's tidy up
there available, Josh Thomas.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
This israph is it usually this right? This is difference
when I did Christys one show.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I asked someone to call from Ecuador. Yeah, that's traditional
Ecuadorian music. Okay, you know where Ecuador is?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
No I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
You don't try it? No, Gilli, great, come on, it's
in the from here, it's in the it's in the
name near the equator.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Yeah, on the.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Very good give me a continent. Give me a continent Africa. Nope, okay,
well let's just leave it there where it's north.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
It's north, it's near the Ecuador, I mean the Equator.
I think I've done enough.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
What continent?
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I think it's a best of seven.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Come on, okay, Ecuador is it's in. It's in Europe,
your joke.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
It Europe is nowhere near.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
It's a Pacific island country. It's a and as well
as nadget is it? It's all I'm not good at
this stuff, mate, I'm googling.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
No, we're no, no, embarrassed. One more continent you haven't mentioned.
Don't google.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
It's not Africa, mate, I'm thinking of Equatorial Guinea.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's Ecuador. Have you touched an Ecuador? That? Okay? Equator?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
And I was like, give me Spanish? South America, Jesus Christ,
is it really?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah? Southern mountains actually South America. Anyway, There's been a
study today that has been released, and I said before,
could people from Ecuador call because apparently they have the
best of the things in this study. Simultaneously, I also
people ask people to call from Cambodia. According to this study,
they are lacking the most in this is it mountains
(30:33):
not mountains.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
There's a lot of pictures of mountains.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Equator. I think there might be there's some mountainous country
in Cambodia. But look, do you want me to tell you,
because I'm going to tell you. I might tell you
through Brendan. Okay, Brendan, you're you're not Ecuadorian, but your
brother in law is. Yes, my sister Mel married Edward Balerizo.
(30:56):
Uh well, first generation Australian.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
But they by OSSI or we call.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Them Ossie's okay, but he's ecuador He's got equator in
his blood. Yeah, okay, great. Did you hear what the
study was about. I did hear something about it. I
think bananas are the best.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Of the world.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yes, bananas. Bananas are the best.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Of Cambodia not have good bananas.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I think Camberrie've got pretty good banana. So I think
that that might be wrong because I feel like they
both probably mate bananas. I wouldn't consider one of the least,
you know, the worst of something in the world the
best nothing in the world. But the news is the
study was people of Cambodia have the smallest erect penis
of any country in the world, coming in at four
(31:42):
inches ten centimeters, and the males have the The males
in Ecuador have the largest erect penises in the world,
according to the study, coming in at seven inches seventeen
zero point six centimeters.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Let's how's that fortunate?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Because they are bananas are known for things.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
Somewhat larger, big bananas, well, camboddy and bananas.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
They would not be comparable, would they, No?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Apparently not.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Did you say your sister sorry, No, da got uncomfortable,
didn't it. We obviously didn't want to speak to someone
who was effectively.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Sleeping with an ECUADORI and I think it would have
been better to.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Speak to Jeosh. Thomas is right up next that I meant,
I know one hundred. That's why he went for the banana.
He went back to bananas, and I took him back there.
The guy called Benjamin Schreiber. He's on a life sentence, right,
what did you do? Don't want to go into it,
get serious, right, But he's on a life sentence.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
He's probably killed Tom.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm not going to confirm or denarie whether he's done that.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
But he's on a life Centerce where is he He
is in Iowa.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
He's in Iowa prison.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I still have the death penalty in Iowa. Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Anyway, this is where things get interesting. In twenty fifteen,
it was quite a while ago. It's back in the
news that it could be hidd in the courts. In
twenty fifteen, he developed kidney stones and then began suffering
from septic poisoning.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Right, and his heart stopped and then he had to
be resuscitated.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh so they could kill him.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So totally separately, he actually legally died for about four minutes.
His heart stopped for four minutes, and then he was revived.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Oh wow, So he was like, look, I've already died.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I've died. Hence I have completed the legal need.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
In me actually wants to ask more questions. But you're not.
You're inadequate.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, I want to get into it. I just think
this is the most fascinating local case. So I just
I just want to do it, and I know we
won't die.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
No, no, no, no, no, no, I want to do You
want to get kidneys done? No no, I.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Want to do the court case. We don't have a
lot of time, though.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You want to do it with me?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, I want to do quickie court, all.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Right, real kisses, real quick. It's quickie court. Call call
quickie course. The experts in the tree.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
The carpet court. No, no, girls, clever. Okay, here's how
it's gonna work. Thirteen one oh sixty five is our number.
We need a jury. First three, people who deem themselves
reasonable citizens will become our jury.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Okay, you have to be a reasonable person.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
The fare and lay excuse me even know it? Layman,
fair and lay like a lay person. Yeah, like a
like a like a reasonable lay. You've never heard there before,
never a lay jury, like like an ordinary person.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
All right, you need to be a lay and you
need to be a reasonable person. Also.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Again, first three, you're going to be our jury, and
then up next will I am going to be on
the side of the guy who thinks he doesn't deserve
the life sentence.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
You're going to try and defend him. Yes, you're going
to try and say this guy shouldn't die.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
He's done his life sentence.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's what I'm dying.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes, okay, okay, that's I'll have thirty seconds to argue that.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You will be the opposite. Ten I, you are joking.
You want to choose that side. I thought about it.
You can defend the guy call QUINTI course the experts
in the tree.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
There's genuinely a fascinating real court case that's going on
right now in Iowa. Prisoner called Benjamin Schreiber is serving
a life sentence.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
He's not up for the death Penaltyologies I clarify that.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I was saying death sentence before the song. It's a
life sentence, okay. He is now claiming, though, that because
his heart stopped for four minutes through a medical issue,
his heart actually stopped. He was then revived. He's now
going guys, I served my life sentence. YEP, I died, right,
so I'm off. Time for me to go and start
(03:29):
a farm or whatever he wants to do.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Anyway, So I want to do a quickie court right now.
So we're both going to be.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Defending him, and I'm going to be prosecuting him. And
I've got a jury of fair and lay people who
are going to be judging com We need a jury
of an uneven number three, but I know there are
a lot of people that are called, but maybe just three.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
We do have three now.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I don't have time to talk to all of you,
but we do have Bernadette, Angela and Robert. I'm just
gonna ask you, Robert, because I can't be bother going
through everyone else.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But why are you a reasonable person to be on
this jury?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Mate?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
I just say it how it is and there's no bulls.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Him between perfect I'm happy with that. No objection from me.
There no objection from me.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
He sees it out is now will I don't know
how court works.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, who goes first?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I'll probably go first.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well, the floor is yours.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
You have thirty seconds, okay, to tell me why this
guy shouldn't get off his life sentence because he's heart stopped.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Okay, So this guy's been given a life sentence, which
I think we all agree is a horrible form of punishment.
There's the reason he's been given a life sense because
we want to punish him and the fact that he
thinks that because you've got kidney stones and potentially died
for a few seconds should excuse him of actually serving
a sentence which we all think he deserves, is absolutely preposterous.
(04:48):
Doesn't make any sense at all. In fact, I don't
think we'd be talking about this unless you confused life
sentence for the death penalty earlier, would he, and then
you realized during the song that a life sentence wasn't
the death penalty. I'm sad to think that somebody who
goes unconscious for maybe three seconds then gets out of
a twenty year sentence. Otherwise that all be doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Okay, time's up, Okay, jury, that's a great point a prisoners.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
All prisoners would then just start finding ways to make
themselves really sick to get out of their actual sentence.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You've gone far too long, and I will ask all
jurors to scratch wills last five seconds of points.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Bernadette, you're good with that?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, great, it stopped when the timers stopped, so all
that good stuff he was doing at the end, you
must scratch it, all right. I've got thirty seconds now
to defend. It's not my boy, actually it's a batman.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
But I'm defending.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
We go well, the definition of reincarnation is this the
belief that the soul of spirit after biological death begins
a new life.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yes, this man point ended. Benjamin has died.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Illogically, he died, and he is about to start a
new life, a new life that doesn't have a life sentence.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
His previous life did have a life sentence, and he
served it. I'm my thirty.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
He served it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I'm having five more seconds. He has served it, but
his life ended. He is now in a new life
where he's a good little boy.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He's the same person.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
He's not in his head. Not your head, but he's
not in his head. He's a good boy. Okay, new life,
No life centers on new life.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I read about that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Read I arrest my case. Arrest my case.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
What about the people that he killed?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Strike that from the from the court records.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
He's got a life sentence. He's done something very naughty,
which we're not allowed to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
He haven't gone in.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I'd like to think about the families of the people
that killed.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Strike that from the court. Okay, let's go to well,
let's go.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
To the jury. Put that down, we go to the jury.
We obviously need an It's a best of three here
in quickie court.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Bernadette, do you think this man is out of his
life sentence or do you think he needs to continue
to serve it?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Good good judgment on both calls. I think he still
needs to stay in. I think he's still guilty.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Okay, very good. One nil to Will? What will do
my nail to? Will?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Second? An orthodox put us to a Hindu on here
that genuinely believes in reincarnation. I think you cooked angela, Angela?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Do you think he served his life sentence because his
heart stopped so he's free man?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Both good points, but I think he needs to serve
his sentence.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's over to finish with Robert. Let's finish with Robert.
I want the grand slam. I want the clean sweet Robert.
What do you think, mate?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
He's died, He's dying, He's come back and new man.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I know he goes and how he says it. The
results or that the finding from the Bruce Lehman trial
have just concluded this afternoon. And Mikayla Whitburn, whose legal
(08:16):
affairs correspondent for the Sydney Morning Herald and the age
that Chief Court reporter joins is right now. Mikayla, what
has happened?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Hello? Oh so huge day today. So we've just had
Justice Lee's decision in Bruce Lehman's defamation case against ten
and Lisa Wilkinson. Massive day in court, with the judge
finding that they've established a defensive truth to an allegation
that Bruce Lehman raped Brittany Higgins in Palman House in
twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay, if you could treat me like a twelve year
old here, Mikayla, I am quite so with legal proceedings.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I'm glad you have you too.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So what's happened today is that the lawyers representing Channel
ten have proved enough that he did actually commit the rape. Yes.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
And it's really important to note here that this is
in a defamation case, which is a civil trial. It's
not a criminal matter, and it means that the standard
of proof is lower. So what Tan and LEAs of
Look consider they need to do was to establish on
the balance of probabilities, which means it's more likely than
not that Bruce Lemon raped Britainny Higgins'm Parlament House. Now
that is necessarily a much easier task, although it's still
(09:22):
difficult than proving to the criminal standard, which is beyond
reasonable doubt that this occurred. So this is not a
criminal it's not a criminal conviction.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Okay, So, but that can happen now that there's evidence
to show or that someone has proven some level of truth.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I'm not saying that there's going to be any criminal
process that flows through this, but what it does show
is that, at least according to one standard, the civil standard,
he's been found to have committed this act. And it
does mean that he's completely lost his defamation case and
he's now on the hook for essentially millions of dollars
in legal fees from the successful parties. But we know
that he doesn't have the money to pay it, so
(09:59):
I guess ten at least he looking to watch to
find that money themselves.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh right, So, michaelis, why wouldn't this now go to
a criminal case. I appreciate that they haven't had to
prove it to the level of a criminal case, but
if they still have found that it's more likely that
he did commit the rape on Britney Higgins surely they're going, Okay,
let's criminally change this guy.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Now, why wouldn't that happen?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Well, we have to go back to twenty twenty two,
which is when Bruce Bowman, who has always maintained his innocence,
did stand trials for Britney Higgins sexual assault. Now that
the trial was aborted because of DURA misconduct because there
was evidence that one juror had brought the search into
the jury room, which is not permitted, and the DPP
at that time considered whether or not he should stand
(10:41):
trial for a second time after that happened, but that
did not proceed ultimately because the DPP decided that there
were concerns about Brittney Higgins's mental health. I can't say
that there's ever going to be any further criminal charge
attaching to this. But what we have today, similar to
as you have said earlier, I think that Ben robertson mismatter,
we have had a finding to the civil standard that
(11:03):
offenses have been committed.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Wow, Okay, there's a lot going on. Heykayla, a couple
I've got a couple more things for you. So you're
a court reporter obviously, so you have you been in
there while while Bruce Levan's been in there defending himself
at all. Has he been present during this or has
it just been his lawyers?
Speaker 7 (11:19):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:19):
So he quite unusually because in a sexual assault trial,
when it's a criminal matter and accused can opt to
maintain their silence, they don't have to give evidence in court.
But he didn't give evidence in his criminal trial, but
in the decimation case he did give evidence. And in
fact it was all streams live on YouTube by the
Federal Court, so you were able to watch it really
wherever you wanted to.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You could have worked from home amazing could have, but
probably didn't because you're a professional. What was he like
in court?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I mean, was he just gave very forceful evidence that
nothing of the kind that Britain Higginson accused him of
had happened. He said there was no sexual contact between
them at all, completely rejected as suggested by another witness,
that he'd actually been seen pashing which was the word
used in court Brittany Higgins, hours before the alleged assault.
So he just presented the witness who was adamant that
(12:08):
what he had been accused of had not occurred, and how.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Did he see him after the judgment was passed down.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Well, we do have a photo of him on the
Held and Age websites at the moment where he looks
pretty stony faced coming out of court. So I imagine it's
a pretty shock development in court today and he probably
isn't going to be saying much about it.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And final question, I know Lisa Wilkinson's released his statement.
I've got that here.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
Federal Court has found that I've published a true story
about a rape in a Federal minister's office at Parliament
House in March of twenty nineteen. I sincerely hope that
this judgment gives strengths to women around the country.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I'm so happy for her.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Is Lisa been present throughout the trial as well, Michaelis?
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Yeah, she has been there for a lot of the
trial and she also gave evidence in their case. So yeah,
she's been a central figure in the court case.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Huge day, Huge for huge day. Yeah, I'm sure you've
got a huge court report to finish. So thanks so
much for joining us, Mikayla. I really really appreciate her
and for you offering your time and what is a
momentous day and really Australian history.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Here take care, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Thanks mate. Mikayla Whitburn there. She is a legal affairs
correspondent for the Sydney Morning Herald and the Age. If
any of that in there was distressing, then don't forget.
You can contact Lifeline thirteen eleven fourteen or you can
call one one hundred respect if there are any things
that had a bit nasty to come up for you
in terms of the abuse side of that case. Totally wild.
(13:40):
What a day. She's a busy girl. Mikayla Whitburn, bloody.
I'd like you to get her.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
How BIG's a court report? I've never done one of them.
It was on YouTube. Just refer to YouTube.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
It's all. It's all there, Megan Markle. I mean, this
story just gets my mouse click every time. Trades in
her stilettos for a seven hundred sixty dollars a pair
of Hermez flip flops and breezy linens as she joins
Prince Harry for his Netflix polo shoot in Palm Beach.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
She bought the title yet it's a big title, one day.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
After she was mocked for her in practical on field attire.
That's just the headline, but it was you know, despite
the words, the content for me there is so enticing
that I had to click on it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And seven hundred and sixty dollars fongs is appropriate racer tire?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I wouldn't wear a flip flop to the races.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
She's at the polo. I don't think it's the races.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
The horses are involved.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I imagine the dress code for polo is similar to
you know, the races.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
No, well, I don't know that, but a lot of
them are not wearing very formal attire.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
What of those flip flops got I'm sorry, I'll put
it down in two seconds, but what kind of furmaiz?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, but it's seven hundred and sixty dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
If they made a toothpick, it would be fifty dollarsmez sure.
I think it could be the most expensive Luxualy Brandon
in the world.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Anyway, the I this for me because I mean, like
Megan Marchael doesn't want to go to the polo.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I wouldn't have thought, who wants to go to the polo?
No offense to the parlam enthusiasms.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Particularly one day after she was mocked for her in
practical on field attire. She's not going to want to
go again.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh she's not.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Two days in a row, well, I you know it
process a deduction. Yesterday she must have been mocked for
her I practical on field of tire.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It's too much polo for me. Two days straight she.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Rocked up in seven hundred and sixty dollars her mare's
flip flops. A day later being mocked after impractical on
field of time.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Absolutely, I would imagine very good cannipace.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You can go into the impractical on field to tire
if you really wander. But I feel like that producers
are losing injurest which I which I mean, it's a
lot of other people are as well. But for me,
des by the fact they've been together for a long time. Yeah,
how long did how on youday? How long have they
been together for?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Six years?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
To bang on, that's extraordinary, that's extraordinary, fact some fact
it could be and they might have a child, that's.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Someone look the fact that for me, for me, it
is an indication of the fact fact checking of the
fact that even if they have been together for six years,
that for me screams early on in a relationship. Like
when you.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
See when you see people at a restaurant and they
spend more than ten minutes at the restaurant, That for
me is like, you don't when me and I go
for a couple of hours. That's such an early relationship thing,
is we? I mean when we get into a we
we have ordered our meals before we've even sat down.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
What do you mean you just go don't You don't
you find that? Like early on it was like, yeah,
we'll spend a couple of hours in this restaurant. Nowadays
it is the experience.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I like. I enjoy food. Yeah right, I'm still going out,
so I like sitting down and having a pair of
tief maybe an oyster. You know this?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Fair enough, fair enough, Okay, I'm just not a food.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'll have a look at the desserts, of course they will.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, sure, okay, I'll get you on this one.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Early in a relationship, I have it on a seven hundred.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Early in a relationship, do you eat light like?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I feel like you're like, oh no, I'll get like
a smaller meal later on in a relationship, you gorge No.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I tend to eat a lot all the way through. Yeah,
and I think both of these things tie in with
your relationship with food.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It's probably fair enough.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You probably quite because you have your bowl syndrome. You're
very very careful about what you eat early in a relationship,
very very true. In fact, I imagine you'd avoid meals
in general for dates. You're more of a walk guy.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I was definitely a guy or a Yeah, I was
a posting a drink guy.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, because I don't want to have to say onion free,
garlic free, gluten free, dairy free.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well there you go. See, Hey, I'm going to say
post in a drink in general is something that is
the sign of the fate that you are very early
on in a relationship, because you're not having a post
in a drink true, if you've been in a relationship
for a while. I'm to throw another one at you.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Here, massages give you massage.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, I think that's an early on thing.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Even as whether you're saying that it's like a nice
favor for the person or for play for them, they
go just.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
For playing general generally was very transactional.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I was actually listen to Diary of a CEO recently
and I found out that the number one thing that
British people do to initiate sex is say, fancy a shag.
That's just that's how transactional it is.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Gets the point out there.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And also because you get to the point if you're
in bed your relationship for a while, you're just so
used to getting rejected that you just throw it up,
like I'll just throw it down the hallway. That's your shake.
I wasn't a metaphor, by the.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Way, showering together.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Share the shower that when you're actually showing with someone's
in there for half the time, it's like, my ass
has got frostbite?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Can you give me a go under the head.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That's very true. That's that's a very good one. Another one,
I was thinking here another one. I'm thinking, here the
man and I think this might just be heterosexual relationships.
Men still trying to defend their mother after an interaction.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
So you're saying that happens early I think so.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I think early on, I think all guys are like, oh, no,
you know, she's just a little bit prickly today, or
something like that. I think as it goes on, you're
like you just you just learn, you learn that you've
got to play the sides.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
It's the hardest thing to do.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
You do right, you do after you leave, or you
can't say anything.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
You're a bit silenced.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I'd almost chop my tongue out when the conversation comes up.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Exciting.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
How seriously, it's time for celebrity yess who?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah? All right, So basically I describe a celebrity. You
guys have to guess who it is. It's just pure
description of their facial features, genuinely in a praising fashion.
And if you can guess who the person is before Wood,
you can guess who it is. You win one hundred
dollars to spend at Red Rooster, a favorite people for
chicken and or chips. Woods.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
All right, so next sorries probably go on. We allow
neck descriptions, don't we.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Would you'd like a bit of neck chat when you're sick?
All right, here, I'll give you the first clue. Everyone
else give us a call thirteen one oh six five
if you think you know who this is, and we're
gonna give you one clue for now, though, hit me
m round face, quite a round face.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Round face, round face, Boris Johnson, Boris Johnson.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I wouldn't say it's round so it's more like blobby. Yeah,
round round, quintessential moonface. I'm gonna say so if you well,
I'll go to Jackie first.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Fair enough, Jackie, who do you.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Reckon that is? I think it's a good, great guess incorrect?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
His son Matthew, similar face.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
No, no, I wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Paul Giammarty, No not Paul Giamarty, No, would you like
some more another clue?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, probably need it?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Wait one more again?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
A moonface?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Have you seen anyway? Go on next?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Puffy cheeks quite pronounced quite like full cheeks, but not
necessarily a chubby face, if that makes any sense. Cheeks,
quite puffy cheeks for a slender face.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Amelia's called on th Hi, Hi, Amelia, who do you
think that is? I think I got this.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Bannaby Joyce, Oh wow, great guess incorrect?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Incorrect, Yo, good guess Amelia, Wow, Amelia love that. There's
sorts of cheeks I'm after, But slender face with those cheeks, cheeks,
honey colored hair, honey colored.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Hair alba.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Incorrect. Mariah Carey, No, no, no, So we've got round
face pretty much a moonface. I'm going to say, quite
puffy cheeks, quite full cheeks, but still a lend a
face to go with those full boys. She's got honey hair.
The woman honey hair. I'm gonna give you one more hair.
(22:10):
Narrow eyes, narrow hmmm, narrow eyes. Now, don't yeah, narrow.
That's no reflection on earth on their ethnicity, wasn't I
wasn't thinking that you You were James on Thurday one
and six five? James, is it Jonah Hill? Honey hair? James?
Does Jonah Hill have honey colored hair? And is he
(22:32):
a woman? Samantha's called one and six five Samantha?
Speaker 7 (22:40):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Do you think it is Samantha?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Well, originally I was thinking Selena Gomez, but then you said.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Honey Jennifer Lawrence, Jennifer, No, guests, not sorry, it's honey
colored hair.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's a round face with full cheeks, still a slender face,
full cheeks though, Gneth Paltrow, they've got thin eyes and
they've got very well maintained eyebrows. I'm going to say
one more thing here. Their skin is almost porcelain, their
skin almost porcelain. Honey hair. Now, would you like a
(23:20):
neck clue your Neckxico.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
You're gonna have to you're gonna have to give me
the neck. Talk to me about her neck, give me
the length of her hair.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
It's always well, when they were younger, kid, it was
a lot younger. No, the hair now probably sits at
shoulder heart or just below shoulder height, which I think
is on trend at the moment. If I had to
Sarah Snook, no, I'm going to say lighter hair in
the hair. You're in the right hair zone with Snook.
But she's more slender than Snook. Jasmine's called on thirty
(23:50):
one Jasmine, who is it?
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Does It's question?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, wow, that's the perfect description of her face. Thank
you appreciate that. Josh Thomas in the studio. Hello, good
tickets to Josh's show That's Tidy Up available a Josh
Thomas dot com dot au. But Josh saw that you
(24:17):
were on a road trip with your mom to Cans
recently and saw a whole bunch of regional fetishers on grinder.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I'm always traveling around to I'm always opening grains and.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I just want to you, is this with your mom?
By the way, Like, why.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
You're who always got my grain job with my mum?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, you open your grinder with your Mom.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah, I say, the boy's going to pick me up
a going the through the water far, I'll be back.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Do you choose do you choose men with?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Mom?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Mom? What do you think about this? This guy?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I don't know. I don't get out of vat then.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
He looks like a good boy.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
But if I'm on a trip with my family, I'm not.
I'm not. Note you don't understand, no, no, no more
probably less because I need an excuse to go. You know,
like if I say to them, the lower.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Your standards with you when you're with your family.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I've got to go for a walk. I need some space.
Everyone gets hurt feelings. But if I'm like this boy.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Is coming, then everyone understands. Everyone would rather you go
and have sex with the stranger than go and walk peacefully.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, doing it to protect their feelings feeling.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Because the person you tell the guy like this, I'm
not really interested in you. I just wanted to get
away from family for a while.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
We just like, you know, we make that supposed to
be quick because a grinds hook that we want to
go home, and I'm like, please.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Don't need you don't know who I have to go
back to? Nothing left to say to these people, So,
what are the what are these finishes that we're talking about?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
This one that I see in every I want.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I haven't been on grind before. I've had a look
at Button Bush and Tommy's, but I've never actually they put
on their their fetishes.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Well, so you grinder is it's an appet it's a
dating app, but it lists people according to how far
away they are, because.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
That's I already disability.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
It's a little bit less, we're not.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It's a public toilet. I don't care about it.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
It's the first priority, and then you can put anything
you want on the profile.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
So, and there's always like an a regional town, there's
just always somebody who has like a really specific fetish
that like wants you to like blow up a balloon
until it pumps and they've posted or they want to
wear like a diaper and have someone change their nappy.
And I just always think, like, that's fine, that's what
you want to do, and you're on the right app,
like that's that's okay, But you can't be doing that
if you live in the country. You've got to move
(26:32):
to a city. Like that's because I'm like, it's It's
hard enough to find someone that you like, that's attractive,
that likes you, that wants to make out with you,
and then you build a life in once you factor
in the requirement that they want to change a diaper
or even know how to change a diaper. Even if
I wanted to, I wouldn't be able to help this
guy out. I don't have to watch a YouTube video.
I don't. I don't have kids, so that I just
(26:55):
I just always see them when I'm in rural Australia.
I just feel so sad for them.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I think they really hectic.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
It must be once once every three years someone comes along.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
It's really hectic. Yeah, you're right, there's a lots taken
in there.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
But how was changing the diaper when you did?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Finally, I didn't do it?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Is it? Is it breaking codes to go on grinder?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Now?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Oh well, it's not codes or codes I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Know there are radio codes that breaking the code. I
was not saying the first first one that pops up.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
It's not like generally it's just told us of people
like it's just face pictures of the cute boys. I mean,
like it's not usually that crass and.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
These are they sorted. I think I know that guy.
It's almost guarantee. So can you sort according to location
right now?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
So that's according to locations.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
The first one, the guy in the wife front's there.
Oh yeah, wow, is he close?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
They don't have their distance turned on, but I can
tell you by going to the next are we having fun?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I am having This person is.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Eighty seven meters away, and then the three people that
we just saw before that within eighty seven meters, So like,
definitely there's like this.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Point it does have their distance on, and then accordingly
the pres within that radius.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Yeah, so I think there's a really good chance. At
this point they were all looking at the picture of
him might be having.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
A Josh take it to Josh's show. Let's tidy up
there available, Josh Thomas.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
This israph is it usually this right? This is difference
when I did Christys one show.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I asked someone to call from Ecuador. Yeah, that's traditional
Ecuadorian music. Okay, you know where Ecuador is?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
No I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
You don't try it? No, Gilli, great, come on, it's
in the from here, it's in the it's in the
name near the equator.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Yeah, on the.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Very good give me a continent. Give me a continent Africa. Nope, okay,
well let's just leave it there where it's north.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
It's north, it's near the Ecuador, I mean the Equator.
I think I've done enough.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
What continent?
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I think it's a best of seven.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Come on, okay, Ecuador is it's in. It's in Europe,
your joke.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
It Europe is nowhere near.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
It's a Pacific island country. It's a and as well
as nadget is it? It's all I'm not good at
this stuff, mate, I'm googling.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
No, we're no, no, embarrassed. One more continent you haven't mentioned.
Don't google.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
It's not Africa, mate, I'm thinking of Equatorial Guinea.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's Ecuador. Have you touched an Ecuador? That? Okay? Equator?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
And I was like, give me Spanish? South America, Jesus Christ,
is it really?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah? Southern mountains actually South America. Anyway, There's been a
study today that has been released, and I said before,
could people from Ecuador call because apparently they have the
best of the things in this study. Simultaneously, I also
people ask people to call from Cambodia. According to this study,
they are lacking the most in this is it mountains
(30:33):
not mountains.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
There's a lot of pictures of mountains.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Equator. I think there might be there's some mountainous country
in Cambodia. But look, do you want me to tell you,
because I'm going to tell you. I might tell you
through Brendan. Okay, Brendan, you're you're not Ecuadorian, but your
brother in law is. Yes, my sister Mel married Edward Balerizo.
(30:56):
Uh well, first generation Australian.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
But they by OSSI or we call.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Them Ossie's okay, but he's ecuador He's got equator in
his blood. Yeah, okay, great. Did you hear what the
study was about. I did hear something about it. I
think bananas are the best.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Of the world.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yes, bananas. Bananas are the best.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Of Cambodia not have good bananas.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I think Camberrie've got pretty good banana. So I think
that that might be wrong because I feel like they
both probably mate bananas. I wouldn't consider one of the least,
you know, the worst of something in the world the
best nothing in the world. But the news is the
study was people of Cambodia have the smallest erect penis
of any country in the world, coming in at four
(31:42):
inches ten centimeters, and the males have the The males
in Ecuador have the largest erect penises in the world,
according to the study, coming in at seven inches seventeen
zero point six centimeters.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Let's how's that fortunate?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Because they are bananas are known for things.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
Somewhat larger, big bananas, well, camboddy and bananas.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
They would not be comparable, would they, No?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Apparently not.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Did you say your sister sorry, No, da got uncomfortable,
didn't it. We obviously didn't want to speak to someone
who was effectively.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Sleeping with an ECUADORI and I think it would have
been better to.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Speak to Jeosh. Thomas is right up next that I meant,
I know one hundred. That's why he went for the banana.
He went back to bananas, and I took him back there.
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